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From: jgreely@oz.cis.ohio-state.edu (J Greely)
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Subject: Re: Student's view of NeXT marketing plan
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Date: 14 Aug 89 08:04:14 GMT
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In-reply-to: crum@lipari.usc.edu's message of 9 Aug 89 09:44:41 GMT

In article  crum@lipari.usc.edu
 (Gary L. Crum) writes:
>Constrained and controlled resources may be sufficient for given tasks,
>but luxury and freedom contribute to human inspiration and creativity.

Y'know, I've been putting off replying to this for days, mostly
because I haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.  It's
obvious, I think, that you have adopted the artist's model of a
computer as a creative tool, and I get the impression that what I
think of as system administration is what you think of as fascism.
Then again, I *could* be wrong.

>Let's find solutions to bring the stimulation of UNIX system control
>to more than administrators and owners of systems -- to users of
>student workstation clusters as well.

Control?  I'd appreciate a clarification of what you're saying here,
because my first impression is that you're sponsoring me for an ulcer.
What exactly does that interesting word "control" mean here?

>If you manage school systems and have something like this ideal as a
>goal, please advertise it.  You might help someone choose the best
>environment.

What ideal?  Perhaps you should expand on the environment you think is
"best", so we can tell you how close it is to what people are doing.
Some people with experience in creating and administering such
environments might have a few bones to pick, but the ensuing
discussion should at least clear the air on how things *can* be done.


				"Obedience to the Law is Freedom"
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J Greely (jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu; osu-cis!jgreely)