Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!alberta!ncc!apss!jhp
From: jhp@apss.ab.ca (Herb Presley, Emergency Planning Officer)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Scene at a Roman Catholic cathedral near you a few years ago.
Summary: Anti-Catholic?
Message-ID: <1481@apss.apss.ab.ca>
Date: 16 Aug 89 06:28:57 GMT
References: <3984@looking.on.ca> <1479@apss.apss.ab.ca> <28367@watmath.waterloo.edu>
Organization: Alberta Public Safety Services
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In article <28367@watmath.waterloo.edu>, sccowan@watmsg.waterloo.edu (S. Crispin Cowan) writes:
> Fuck the pedophile;
Go ahead. Maybe YOU'LL end up in jail.
> On the other hand, Brad shows great concern for the victim, and
> wonders whether this wasn't done deliberately.
Stop. You're breaking my heart! You wouldn't know concern if it hit you in
the face.
> "Jesus died for your sins. Make it worth his while."
> fortune -o.
Is this the Bible that you're quoting? Or do you know? Or do you care? In
fact, do I care?
> The church specifically encourages the view that an individual is not
> responsable for their actions, so long as they seek forgiveness (via
> the church, of course). The church may not think so, but I hold them
> responsable.
Is that so? It's been a long time since you've gone to church. Obviously. The
one I go to (not Catholic) in fact does hold the view that people are
responsible for their own actions. Isn't that great? And forgiveness is not
just a way to avoid that responsibility.
> <> Murphy: No, that would get in all the papers. We'll do what we always do.
>
> Sure we have; put the pedophiles in jail, simple!
These are the views of a simpleton! Surely you're not one of THOSE, are you?
> Alcoholism is a (relatively) victim-less crime that dammages it's
> carrier mor than anyone else; comparing the two is not valid.
You are uninformed! Check with your local government alcoholism foundation (or
your local Catholic Church) :-)
> In my experience, children are generally treasured in any civilized
> western society. That's what child-labour laws, pedophile laws,
And what experience might that be? Are you a social worker, or a doctor,
nurse, teacher? I'd be interested in knowing from where you obtained your
experience - I hope it was a lot better source than your information!
> children's aid societies, etc. are all about. I don't see any
> connection between favouring abortion rights (which I personally do)
> and de-valuing children. Quite the opposite, in fact, since the
No, I didn't think you would.........
> Archbishop of whatever in Nova Scotia seems to have been the first to
He was a bishop. In Halifax. Read the paper.
> come out in favour of pedophilia, and I doubt that he favours abortion.
> In fact, it seems to me that he values un-born children MORE that the
> living ones.
Quote, please? I didn't hear him say that and I obviously read the article in
greater detail than you did.
> Brad is quite aware of the dammage. He is making a cynical statement
> about how much the church elders care about the people of
> Newfoundland; i.e. they don't give a fuck.
Oh, so now you're defending Brad? Isn't it funny how the uninformed always run
in packs?
> "Everything to excess. Moderation is for monks."
> -Lazarus Long
I tire easliy reading garbage. So I'll just say that your signature says it
all about your value system. No wonder you don't like the church, sheeesh!