Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!pro-xy.UUCP!garths From: garths@pro-xy.UUCP (Garth Shultz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: RE: Re: Problems with GS/OS Message-ID: <8908111748.AA01518@trout.nosc.mil> Date: 10 Aug 89 21:25:04 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 40 Network Comment: to #226 by obsolete!dlyons%apple.com In reply to Dave Lyons sage comments: > (...) ProDOS 8 doesn't need the AppleDisk5.25 driver, so what does this > have to do with ShrinkIt 2.1? My response was regarding the question about HyperFormat and the subsequent inability of a user to read the formatted 5.25 inch disk. Since I have experienced _no_ problems with formatting a 5.25 inch drive from ShrinkIt (which uses HyperFormat), nor subsequently writing/reading it, my answer was merely an attempt to help someone who seemed to be having difficulty--and the absence of the AppleDisk5.25 driver would certainly interfere with accessing the drive from GS/OS. Obviously, many apparent problems with GS/OS have stemmed from the user's having omitted important segments from the boot disk (as a driver), or failure to install using the Installer. Perhaps my wording was such that this meaning was unclear. > (... the AppleDisk5.25 driver) always worked fine for me, and I've never > installed the UniDisk3.5 driver (...). It bothers me (...to see things > written off as...) "buggy." The incorrect write-protect status bug was significant. However, my personal experience with my "semi-penultimate operating system test software", (PaintWorks Gold, from my hard drive with System Software 4.0), was that the Smartport 5.25 inch drive would _never_ be recognized unless the UniDisk3.5 driver was _also_ present in the drivers folder with AppleDisk5.25. (I spent hours, experimenting, trying to find a way to enable the 5.25 inch drive.) I thought I had, finally, found something unique until I saw a posting on GEnie, or somewhere, with an identical observation. I, subsequently, removed the UniDisk3.5 and AppleDisk5.25 drivers from their folder... finding little need for the 5.25 drive with GS/OS software anyway. > What incompatibility (...) by adding an MTR command (...)? You are quite correct, of course, and I am guilty of an exaggeration. Replacing the now useless MON command with MTR is quite benign with modern Applesoft programs. garths@pro-xy (Garth Shultz)