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From: munnari!csc.anu.oz.au!gih900@UUNET.UU.NET (Geoff Huston)
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Subject: Re: NEWS create command,how about /NOINQUIRE ?
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Date: 9 Aug 89 01:52:31 GMT
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Tim Russell writes --
     
(quoting me somewhere here)
>|perhaps the answer is to use a different verb for an automatic "catch-up" of a
>|client system to a particular server -- UPDATE springs to mind, but it is
>|already used - how about:
>|
>|   UPDATE/CLIENT  [/SERVER=node] [/PROTOCOL=protocol]
>|
>|which would create all newsgroups currently held on the server which are not
>|already defined on the client system??
>
>  I like this idea.   It's one of the few things left that I'd really like to
>see.  It was getting to the point that I was going to set up an NNTP server
>explicitly for the purpose of having our NNTP server send 'control' to it
>to create new groups automatically.  Glad I won't have to.
     
I have now included UPDATE/CLIENT
     
  - now that I look at the code this is equivalent to
    NEWS> CREATE NEWSGROUP */SERVER=node/PROTOCOL=proto/INQUIRE/NOCONFIRM
    but a hell of a lot less to type in!!
     
>   In the same 'new newsgroup' vein - we have a problem.  The NEWREGISTER
>profile entry seems to be off by default, which seems terribly silly to me -
>our users are supposed to wade through 497 groups to find new ones?  I'd
>like to see either a system-wide default profile (which would be preferable)
>or a default of /NEWREGISTER=* for that entry.
     
I've had mixed responses on this one - There are two solutions - V5.9 now
supports a default NEWSRC file for first time users
(NEWS_MANAGER:NEWSRC.TEMPLATE) to allow a system initial default.
     
The second method is REG/SINCE=date which will pick out all newsgroups created
since a nominated date. A variant of this is REG/RECORD which records today's
date as a checkpoint. A subsequent call to REG/NEW will register you in all
newsgroups created since the recorded date, and also record the current date as
the new recorded date.
     
Geoff Huston
gih900@csc.anu.oz.au