Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!cernvax!oxygen!acadch!impch!accsys!sosaria!wizard From: wizard@sosaria.UUCP (Chris Brand) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: RE: GVP Message-ID: <0417.AA0417@sosaria> Date: 13 Aug 89 23:11:35 GMT Reply-To: wizard@sosaria.ccs.imp.com Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga Lines: 59 In message <62835@linus.UUCP> Rich Champeaux wrote: >good things about it, and since they were advertising it with the Quantum as >being fast, I figured what the hell, it's got to at least be faster than my >Supra I have on my 1000. Wrong!!! The drive I was using with the GVP is a >ST296N 80Meg 28ms. The Supra was using a Miniscribe 8425S 20Meg 65ms. >The Supra was giving me ~140k reads and writes, but the GVP gave me only >123k reads and 95k writes, and it had a drive that was twice as fast. Now, >Amiga World and other people were reporting speeds around 240k, but I couldn't Voil`! This is what I meant. See, if a controller is so famed for speed, it should really give you more than just 123K reads, and if a controller comes to only 240 K with a Quantum drive, it's NOTHING. Now, before you write more ugly flames concerning this matter, I'd like you to know that I have no intention to make GVP look bad. I'm very impressed by what the company is doing for the Amiga, and I certainly wished there were more like GVP. I'm also NOT payed by Commodore (:-) for supporting the 2090A. But I'm in with computers for more than seven years now, and even if this is not a lot I went through much. The final experience I made concerning upgrading hardware is that the best you can do is to buy all hardware from the same developer. One example is the GVP Hardcard, which was heavily recommended and now it turns out that there are problems with certain software and hardware that will not work properly. With the 2090A, I haven't discovered ANYTHING until now that gave problems, and I use a lot of software (no, NOT black copies). Or hear this one: We planned to buy the Sharp Color Scanner with the ASDG Scanlab ever sine we saw it at the CeBit in Germany. Now that it is finally available, we were horrified to hear from one of the biggest swiss Amiga dealers that it worked ONLY with Amigas equipped with the A2620. No one seems to know why. Unfortunately, we have a Hurricane Board and now we have to try to sell it and buy a 2620, since we need the scanner now and not in half a year, when the problem is solved. (By the way, does anybody know more about this? How about you, Mr. Kivolowitz?) What I want to say is that if you buy only Commodore stuff, you're quite safe against unpleasant surprises. I said QUITE safe, not COMPLETELY. The problems start with 3rd party products. Unfortunately, many people are far from keeping to the recommendations Commodore gives out concerning development of hard- and software. So it is quite clear that sooner or later, you'll get problem if you combine products from differents developers. >I decided to chalk it up to experience, went with my first instinct and bought >a HardFrame. With the same ST296N, I'm now getting 655k reads and 290k writes. >The HardFrame is even cheaper. Yeah. That's what I call speed. Now imagine what he would get if he connected a 11ms Quantum drive to that HardFrame..... -- ---------------------------------------- Chris Brand - wizard@sosaria.ccs.imp.com "Justice is the possession and doing of what one is entitled to" - Platon ----------------------------------------