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From: garths@pro-xy.UUCP (Garth Shultz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Problems with GS/OS
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Date: 10 Aug 89 21:25:04 GMT
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Network Comment: to #226 by obsolete!dlyons%apple.com

In reply to Dave Lyons sage comments:

> (...) ProDOS 8 doesn't need the AppleDisk5.25 driver, so what does this 
> have to do with ShrinkIt 2.1?

My response was regarding the question about HyperFormat and the subsequent 
inability of a user to read the formatted 5.25 inch disk.  Since I have 
experienced _no_ problems with formatting a 5.25 inch drive from ShrinkIt 
(which uses HyperFormat), nor subsequently writing/reading it, my answer was 
merely an attempt to help someone who seemed to be having difficulty--and the 
absence of the AppleDisk5.25 driver would certainly interfere with accessing 
the drive from GS/OS.  Obviously, many apparent problems with GS/OS have 
stemmed from the user's having omitted important segments from the boot disk 
(as a driver), or failure to install using the Installer.  Perhaps my 
wording was such that this meaning was unclear.

> (... the AppleDisk5.25 driver) always worked fine for me, and I've never
> installed the UniDisk3.5 driver (...).   It bothers me (...to see things 
> written off as...) "buggy."

The incorrect write-protect status bug was significant.  However, my personal 
experience with my "semi-penultimate operating system test software", 
(PaintWorks Gold, from my hard drive with System Software 4.0), was that the 
Smartport 5.25 inch drive would _never_ be recognized unless the UniDisk3.5 
driver was _also_ present in the drivers folder with AppleDisk5.25.  (I spent 
hours, experimenting, trying to find a way to enable the 5.25 inch drive.)  I 
thought I had, finally, found something unique until I saw a posting on 
GEnie, or somewhere, with an identical observation.  I, subsequently, removed 
the UniDisk3.5 and AppleDisk5.25 drivers from their folder... finding little 
need for the 5.25 drive with GS/OS software anyway.

> What incompatibility (...) by adding an MTR command (...)?

You are quite correct, of course, and I am guilty of an exaggeration.  
Replacing the now useless MON command with MTR is quite benign with modern 
Applesoft programs.

garths@pro-xy (Garth Shultz)