Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mailrus!csd4.csd.uwm.edu!gem.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!pawl!shadow From: shadow@pawl.rpi.edu (Deven T. Corzine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.tech Subject: Re: Copper Effects In C. Message-ID:Date: 18 Aug 89 13:47:25 GMT References: <4050@shlump.nac.dec.com> Sender: usenet@rpi.edu Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Lines: 57 In-reply-to: balzer@frambo.enet.dec.com's message of 14 Aug 89 14:46:01 GMT Valentin> Tss, tss, tss. Have we forgotten about Delay()? Deven> Ugly thing about Delay() is that it's part of dos.library... Christian> You're absolutly right, Deven. I personally avoid Delay() Christian> wherever possible. Anybody remember the Delay(0) bug? ;-) No, but Delay() should be in exec.library as Sleep(), ideally, calling timer.device transparently... if not, it should be Sleep() in timer.device. It's *not* a DOS function. *sigh* Valentin> You realize, if I were German and had just swallowed too Valentin> much beer, I would have flamed you for this? :-) Deven> Well, now. From what appears to be the norm among German Amiga Deven> programmers, I would expect approval for the busy wait, and Deven> disapproval for otherwise cooperating with the operating Deven> system... [You shouldn't need to ask for *permission* to go Deven> play with the hardware directly! You know the registers' Deven> addresses...] Christian> Sigh, another stereotype. And what's really sad about it, Christian> is the fact that it's true. :-( :-} Stereotypical but true, I'm afraid... Christian> My personal estimate is that still about 50% of the German Christian> (European, Terrestrian?) Amiga programmers prefer dirty Christian> tricks over compliance to well defined guidelines. Or they Christian> just don't read the manuals. This percentage seems to rise Christian> dramatically for game programmers. But they all follow a Christian> long and truly American tradition, ;-) with Electronic Arts Christian> taking the lead. It's a bad attitude. Christian> [...] Mr. Sachs had one more "hint" for the anxious German Christian> public. He said he prefers assembler to C, since it allows Christian> such nice things as self-modifying code!!! I rest my case. Deven> p.s. :-) Christian> Appreciated, but not really necessary in this contents. As Christian> stated above, you're (unfortunately) perfectly right. A Christian> fact's a fact. ;-) Yeah, but some people are easily offended. ;-) Deven -- Deven T. Corzine Internet: deven@rpi.edu, shadow@pawl.rpi.edu Snail: 2214 12th Street, Troy, NY 12180 Phone: (518) 271-0750 Bitnet: deven@rpitsmts, userfxb6@rpitsmts UUCP: uunet!rpi!deven Simple things should be simple and complex things should be possible.