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From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: ca.politics,sci.bio
Subject: Re: Hybrid vigor
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Date: 10 Aug 89 16:39:51 GMT
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In article <5983@lynx.UUCP> neal@lynx.uucp (Neal Woodall) writes:
> Mr. Casseres is clearly ignorant on this: hybrid vigor can indeed be 
applied
> to things other than agricultrual crops.....it is also frequently 
applied to
> agrcultural stock (ie, animals) as well. Perhaps the reason you hardly 
ever
> hear of it being aplied to humans is because it invariably causes a 
furior
> among the "progressives" who fear that it could be used to further racial
> discrimination. In fact, Mr. Casseres himself demonstrates this in his 
quote
> above. It is because of the inevitable cries of "racism" and 
"discrimination"
> from the so-called "progressives" that this subject cannot usually be
> discussed in a rational fashion.

Well, EXCUSE ME for saying something is racist.  I guess nobody should 
ever call anything racist again, ever (except affirmative action), for 
fear of making non-progressives afraid to talk.  Give me a break, Neal.

> I have my own views on this, and at the risk of being flamed or worse, I 
am
> going to enter this fray.

Well, let's give you a great big medal for your astonishing bravery!!!

[lengthy argument about genetic history of American blacks, omitted for 
brevity]

> I hope that people can examine these ideas OBJECTIVELY, without putting 
too
> much emotional content into them. These statements are NOT ment to be
> racist in nature, and I hope that people will discuss this in a rational
> way, rather than flaming me or calling me names.

Guess what, Neal?  I don't think your argument is racist, and so I'm not 
going to call you a racist.  You can come out from under the bed.  
However, I did think that MacLeod's statement was racist.  You figure it 
out.

David Casseres

Exclaimer:  Hey!