Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: stg@ihlpl.att.com (Scott T Grant) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: secondary causation Summary: Sorry I just don't buy this..... Message-ID:Date: 14 Aug 89 03:49:22 GMT References: Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 24 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article , mls@mhuxu.att.com (Michael L Siemon) writes: [Stuff about pre-destination deleted for space] Sorry, I just can't buy into this bit about God. I also don't believe he can be the kind and loving God you portray. Given that God is omnipotent and knows everything that has/is/will happen in the universe we can then take it one step further. God knows, from the time of a persons birth, even before, where that soul is bound. Yet he lets them be born, live and die only to go to hell and thus give him greater glory.....don't sound like the kind of God I would be abasing myself to in servitude. "Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law!" Scott Grant -Aleister Crowley AT&T Bell Laboratories "What be the difference if I remain the same? The mind is it's own place and in itself Can make a Heaven of Hell, a Hell of Heaven. In my view, to reign is worth ambition, though in Hell. Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven." -Satan from Milton's "Paradise Lost" Disclaimer: The views expressed above are my own and are not the views of AT&T, my employer or: "The Establishment"