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From: craig@hprnd.HP.COM (Craig Blackwood)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans
Subject: Re: Twisted Pair Ether query
Message-ID: <2230020@hprnd.HP.COM>
Date: 8 Aug 89 21:24:17 GMT
References: <507@oblio.UUCP>
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
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> We are looking for experiences / impressions of running twisted-pair
> ethernet.

I think it is great!  The diskless workstation from which I am writing this 
is connected to the server via Twisted Pair ethernet (HP StarLAN 10).  With 
other types of cable (thick and thin coax) one person can mess up the whole
network simply by messing with the cable.  With StarLAN 10 other users can
do whatever they want to the twisted pair that runs to their machine without
causing any problems for others.

> Last time I looked at this stuff it was all in the talking stage -
> nobody had any commercial hardware.

The product is a reality.  The standard is almost a reality.  The IEEE standard
is called 10baseT and (from what I know :-) will be official near the beginning
of next year.

> Now I understand Cabletron makes some
> equipment, and there are presumably others.  I wasn't paying any attention
> before, but now we about to move and looking at cabling options for cubicles,
> especially for use with our X terminals.

HP makes twisted pair ethernet products (called StarLAN 10) including PC LAN
cards, HUBS, minicomputer and Workstation interface cards.
AT&T and Synoptics also make StarLAN 10 products.  There are probably many
others.
> 
> I have a notion this has been discussed here before and I missed it (hey, I
> don't have time to read everything); if so, I think I would appreciate mail
> rather than followups.
> 
> Mats Wichmann
> Acer America
> hplabs!oblio!mats
> ----------

Craig Blackwood
craig@hprnd.rose.hp.com