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From: gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: how do I tell the size of a pseudoterm window?
Message-ID: <9047@smoke.BRL.MIL>
Date: 2 Dec 88 17:51:50 GMT
References: <2081@vedge.UUCP> <6766@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <564@auspex.UUCP>
Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB) )
Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD.
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In article <564@auspex.UUCP> guy@auspex.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes:
>S5 doesn't come standard with a window system (unless S5R3.2 comes
>standard with X11), ...

This isn't quite right.  UNIX System V release 3 includes a "basic
windowing utilities" floppy that the 3B2 user can install or not,
but it is at least a standard part of the distribution.  This supports
the "xt" layer protocols used by the Blit descendants.  I don't know
what AT&T's future windowing plans are; they've announced (with Sun)
a commitment to the "Open Look" but then everybody and his brother is
pushing some window interface right now.  Too bad if X11 pushes out
the in-many-ways-superior layers approach.

Layers aren't just pseudo-terminals, they're much more powerful.