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From: pluto@beowulf.ucsd.edu (Mark E. P. Plutowski)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: <7749@klaatu.rutgers.edu>
Summary: The point. (me and my arrow)
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Date: 2 Dec 88 18:08:29 GMT
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In article  josh@klaatu.rutgers.edu (J Storrs Hall) writes:
>
>    >  Intelligence is the capacity to do actions, make statements,
>    >  exercise judgement, believe knowledge, and pay attention.
>    >--JoSH
>
>    To which Don Subt replies,
>       " ...my computer can do [such] actions... "
>
>    To which Josh replies,
>    >I claim that ... you are using metaphor[s] rather than actually
>    >using the words in the basic senses I (and Webster) meant them.
>
>...To which I replied,
>    *You* are using words erroneously,... 

>...To which Josh replies:
>... If you were more concerned with "discussing
>these matters" and less with mindless repartee, you might have
>observed that there is an element of truth on both sides.
>
>You might have seen that the difference between the two
>interpretations has a lot to say about the nature of what
>we call "intelligence".  Is it the degree of interconnectedness
>between the simple mechanical operations that distinguishes
>knowledge from data storage, judgement from "if (i>3)"?

To which I say, (I'll be short)

Granted.  You have a point. But when *you* get steamed over a
humorous (but quite possibly valid) alternative interpretation of what 
you are trying to say, whose fault is it?   
You should thank us for pointing out these (other) interpretations 
for you!!      :-(   :-|   :-}   ;-)

Back to the subject.  Until these terms are better defined, 
one can be perfectly justified in claiming that they apply to current 
computers.  Perhaps this is acceptable; if not, then the definition
needs revision, since obviously from one perspective the application
to computers is (although tongue firmly planted in cheek) not so
far-fetched.  I'm looking forward to any sound and complete defintions
of:		KNOWLEDGE, BELIEF, INTUITION, INDUCTION, 
		IMAGINATION, INTELLIGENCE.
believe me.
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