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From: tmyers@orion.cf.uci.edu (Tracy Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: TML Pascal II
Message-ID: <1234@orion.cf.uci.edu>
Date: 3 Dec 88 01:06:20 GMT
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In article <1867@ndsuvax.UUCP> nopuklic@ndsuvax.UUCP (Blayne Puklich) writes:
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>That they can say MPW is free with TML gets me even more excited.
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In June of this year I purchased MPW 2.0 and the C compiler for $350 from
APDA with rumors already in the air about MPW 3.0.  Needless to say I was
quite surprised by the obscene 'upgrade' cost for the MPW 3.0 C package.
When I bought 2.0 I considered the upgrade cost for users of 1.0 listed in
APDAlog which amounts to less than $60.  This seemed very reasonable, and I
assumed they would continue this policy.

In contrast the lab I work for purchased TML pascal back in the dark ages,
never registered the product, and finally switched to another pascal
system.  When I heard about the TML Pascal II upgrade I called and
discussed the situation with them on the phone.  All I had to do to get the
upgrade for our lab was to send in a first page of the manual.  Because of
the university's purchasing policy, I needed any receipts to be less than
$50 each.  TML shipped me Pascal II and the Source Code Library on separate
receipts, and I had the product in less than two weeks from the day I
mailed the request.  If TML can liscense MPW from Apple and provide it to
its customers at a reasonable price more power to them.

So instead of being excited that TML can ship MPW 'free' with its product,
we should get excited at Apple for charging us an arm and a leg for an upgrade 
to a piece of software for which we have already paid twice what any other 
Mac development system costs.  I really like MPW, but I will find it very
difficult to strech my already tight student budget to acommodate the 3.0
upgrade.