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From: gibsong@gtephx.UUCP (Greggo)
Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc
Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence
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Date: 30 Nov 88 21:58:54 GMT
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There are lots of good comments on this subject, but it's starting to
degrade a bit into nit-picking on fine points of definitions, without
attending to the main subject at hand.

As to my views, I agree that learning and intelligence are related.
However, much of the discussion has focused on technical definitions
of intelligence.  Don't emotions enter into intelligence at all, or
do they just "get in the way"?  One of the prime foundations for
intelligence would surely be "an awareness of self".  Most of the
comments about considering whether the computer or the programmer
understands assume a central point of control for intelligence.  Are
we intelligent first because we realize that we exist as an independent
mind?  How does this then apply to AI?

Also, it is the _ability_ to learn, interpret environment, build
experience, etc. that forms the foundation for intelligence, not the
actual use.  This explains how just because someone doesn't hear or
care about what you're saying doesn't mean they're not intelligent.
Again, this brings in attitudes and emotions, which at least influence
our ability to exercise intelligence, if not directly a part of
intelligence.

In summary, some main ingredients of intelligence (one man's opinion):
	- awareness of self
	- ability to learn
	- emotions (curiosity, drive, satisfaction)?

Anyway, I find this whole conversation fascinating.  Please forgive
the rambling nature of this posting.

- greggo

Disclaimer:  Me, not GTE!