Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2752 talk.philosophy.misc:1655 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!tank!ncar!noao!asuvax!gtephx!gibsong From: gibsong@gtephx.UUCP (Greggo) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence Message-ID: <3ffb7cfc.14c3d@gtephx.UUCP> Date: 30 Nov 88 21:58:54 GMT References: <1976@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <2717@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu>Distribution: comp.ai Organization: gte Lines: 33 There are lots of good comments on this subject, but it's starting to degrade a bit into nit-picking on fine points of definitions, without attending to the main subject at hand. As to my views, I agree that learning and intelligence are related. However, much of the discussion has focused on technical definitions of intelligence. Don't emotions enter into intelligence at all, or do they just "get in the way"? One of the prime foundations for intelligence would surely be "an awareness of self". Most of the comments about considering whether the computer or the programmer understands assume a central point of control for intelligence. Are we intelligent first because we realize that we exist as an independent mind? How does this then apply to AI? Also, it is the _ability_ to learn, interpret environment, build experience, etc. that forms the foundation for intelligence, not the actual use. This explains how just because someone doesn't hear or care about what you're saying doesn't mean they're not intelligent. Again, this brings in attitudes and emotions, which at least influence our ability to exercise intelligence, if not directly a part of intelligence. In summary, some main ingredients of intelligence (one man's opinion): - awareness of self - ability to learn - emotions (curiosity, drive, satisfaction)? Anyway, I find this whole conversation fascinating. Please forgive the rambling nature of this posting. - greggo Disclaimer: Me, not GTE!