Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!ames!elroy!orion.cf.uci.edu!tmyers From: tmyers@orion.cf.uci.edu (Tracy Myers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: TML Pascal II Message-ID: <1234@orion.cf.uci.edu> Date: 3 Dec 88 01:06:20 GMT References: <1857@ndsuvax.UUCP> <32737@bbn.COM> <10245@umn-cs.CS.UMN.EDU> <1867@ndsuvax.UUCP> Reply-To: tmyers@orion.cf.uci.edu (Tracy Myers) Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 28 In article <1867@ndsuvax.UUCP> nopuklic@ndsuvax.UUCP (Blayne Puklich) writes: > >That they can say MPW is free with TML gets me even more excited. > In June of this year I purchased MPW 2.0 and the C compiler for $350 from APDA with rumors already in the air about MPW 3.0. Needless to say I was quite surprised by the obscene 'upgrade' cost for the MPW 3.0 C package. When I bought 2.0 I considered the upgrade cost for users of 1.0 listed in APDAlog which amounts to less than $60. This seemed very reasonable, and I assumed they would continue this policy. In contrast the lab I work for purchased TML pascal back in the dark ages, never registered the product, and finally switched to another pascal system. When I heard about the TML Pascal II upgrade I called and discussed the situation with them on the phone. All I had to do to get the upgrade for our lab was to send in a first page of the manual. Because of the university's purchasing policy, I needed any receipts to be less than $50 each. TML shipped me Pascal II and the Source Code Library on separate receipts, and I had the product in less than two weeks from the day I mailed the request. If TML can liscense MPW from Apple and provide it to its customers at a reasonable price more power to them. So instead of being excited that TML can ship MPW 'free' with its product, we should get excited at Apple for charging us an arm and a leg for an upgrade to a piece of software for which we have already paid twice what any other Mac development system costs. I really like MPW, but I will find it very difficult to strech my already tight student budget to acommodate the 3.0 upgrade.