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From: YZKCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Yaakov Kayman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,news.misc,news.sysadmin
Subject: Anti-Semitism (Jew-hatred) on the network. What should be done?
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Date: 28 Nov 88 21:31:39 GMT
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Dear "Net-people":

    I just (today) forwarded Nancy M. Gould's "e-HATE-mail" ("____ OFF
YOU JEWISH _____") to "Erik E. Fair (USENET News Admin.)"
 and Gene Spafford , two of
USENET's so-called "net.gods", with the note below.

    I believe the vile personal (and anti-Semitic) attack she was
subjected to exceeds even the 7 NOV 87 "Ginsburg affair", perpetrated by
Eric Mading of Wisconsin,

(for those who don't remember, "So Doug Ginsburg likes his reefer. That
 doesn't surprise me, he is a Jew.  I think Ronnie should tell this pot-
 smoking Jew to get his ___ out of the country and deport him to Israel,
 where he belongs." This is a verbatim quote of article 1232@puff.wisc
 .edu)

which drew widespread deserved condemnation and calls for the revocation
of Mading's network privileges (his account was revoked on 10 Nov 87,
and then was restored on 12 NOV 87).

As such, I feel it should be dealt with even more strongly.

Here is the note I sent:
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Messrs. Fair and Spafford:

    I neither know, nor care to know, who sent such disgusting garbage
as the e-mail I now forward to you with great regret. Nancy Gould, its
unfortunate recipient, does, and should you be interested, you can ask
her.

    This lamentable state of affairs has evidently come about as a
result of the storm generated over the posting of one or more jokes to
rec.humor.funny, moderated by Brad Templeton, which were seen by some as
anti-Semitic. I have already requested the advice and/or assistance of
both of you gentlemen in this matter. The protests have evidently been
seen by some (many?) as overreaction (about that I have no comment), and
by yet others as a cause for great anger and the outpouring of hatred,
as this e-mail I forward illustrates.

    While I fully realize that "net.gods" are not to be mentioned in the
same breath as G-d, who actually runs this universe of ours, I appeal to
both of you to use whatever influence you do have to help end this sorry
state of affairs.

    I don't believe anyone in this great country of ours, Jew or Gentile,
will deny the existence of anti-Semitism in the USA. Can we not keep it
off the net?

Yours truly,

Yaakov Kayman (yzkcu@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU)
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    What do you people "out there" think?

Yaakov K.
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