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From: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Internationalist posturings.
Message-ID: <2044@garth.UUCP>
Date: 30 Nov 88 01:33:24 GMT
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Reply-To: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan)
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>	                            This is called "courtesy".  Courtesy is
>	    something that lets people of differing values and opinions to
>	    communicate with each other without ripping each other's lungs
>	    out.

Amusing since this original started when I suggested Spencer be courtesied.

>	2)  It's OK for you to be American.

And it's okay for you to be a Canadian. Why do you need to feel so defensive?
Why do you feel it is right that Spencer posts snide remarks for Canada yet
asking him to stop warrants a deluge of hate mail?

>	3)  When you respond to comments made by other people, your response
>	    will have greater effect if you address the issue.

Yes, indeed.

>		1)  There are countries in the world who have a similar levels
>		    of freedom to the U.S..  The people who live in them are
>		    pretty comfortable and are not looking to the U.S. to
>		    provide a shining example.

In your haste you overlooked my comment on that exact point.

>	    	2)  The implicit statement you made concerning the superiority
>	 	    of the American system in ensuring freedom of speech is

Given the recent events of the UK Parliament, it is a superior system for
protecting individual freedoms, but, of course, some countries do not wish
to give individual that degree of power. Assuming countries must or that
parliamentary governments do is arrogance.

>	                                 I think that now is a good time for
>	    you to start practicing reason and discourse.

Perhaps it would help if you read all that written rather than reading a few
words and reading in your desired conclusion.

Oh, I have learned one thing and that is to attack immediately. I have tried
by polite and only have been savaged in return. I made that mistake again in
requesting posters in Canada to be polite while making concillatory statements
about Canadian identity, and still you feel the need to attack anything which
disturbs your blithe ignorance.
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                                                   -- s m ryan
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