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From: jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.eunice
Subject: Re: nohup on Eunice?
Message-ID: <2703@epimass.EPI.COM>
Date: 5 Dec 88 19:18:56 GMT
References: <3468@emory.uucp>
Reply-To: jbuck@epimass.EPI.COM (Joe Buck)
Organization: Entropic Processing, Inc., Cupertino, CA
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In article <3468@emory.uucp> km@emory.uucp (Ken Mandelberg) writes:
>Does anyone know how to run a Eunice background job which
>will survive the logout of the login shell that started it?
>Normally these jobs die no matter how one tries to manipulate
>the process group or hangup signals, presumably because the
>Unix emulation is not faithful in this respect.

The VMS security model makes this pretty much impossible.  The only
way a user can run a job that survives logout is to have DETACH
privilege.  But the way VMS defines DETACH privilege, a user with that
privilege can create a job running as any user, and therefore can do
anything.  Stupid, right?  But there's no way around this.
-- 
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