Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!rutgers!mailrus!ames!haven!adm!smoke!gwyn From: gwyn@smoke.BRL.MIL (Doug Gwyn ) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: how do I tell the size of a pseudoterm window? Message-ID: <9047@smoke.BRL.MIL> Date: 2 Dec 88 17:51:50 GMT References: <2081@vedge.UUCP> <6766@spool.cs.wisc.edu> <564@auspex.UUCP> Reply-To: gwyn@brl.arpa (Doug Gwyn (VLD/VMB)) Organization: Ballistic Research Lab (BRL), APG, MD. Lines: 14 In article <564@auspex.UUCP> guy@auspex.UUCP (Guy Harris) writes: >S5 doesn't come standard with a window system (unless S5R3.2 comes >standard with X11), ... This isn't quite right. UNIX System V release 3 includes a "basic windowing utilities" floppy that the 3B2 user can install or not, but it is at least a standard part of the distribution. This supports the "xt" layer protocols used by the Blit descendants. I don't know what AT&T's future windowing plans are; they've announced (with Sun) a commitment to the "Open Look" but then everybody and his brother is pushing some window interface right now. Too bad if X11 pushes out the in-many-ways-superior layers approach. Layers aren't just pseudo-terminals, they're much more powerful.