Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!lll-winken!killer!rpp386!jfh From: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US (The Beach Bum) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general Subject: login clone vs. Chuck Brunow Summary: Explanation of Chuck's reason for concern Message-ID: <9139@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US> Date: 5 Dec 88 14:45:15 GMT Distribution: na Organization: Big "D" Home for Wayward Hackers Lines: 50 Quite a few of you wrote want to know what Chuck Brunow had against the login package I've been working on, and why he was on this religious campaign. I thought I might also add a few words of general freeware wisdom. Chuck Brunow has been harassing USENET users in many groups since his return to the net this year. I guess I get to be one of them. There is no basis for his complaining, except mean-spiritedness. Various criminal activities of his have been brought to light on the net, and I guess there is no time like the present to fill you in on his past actions. Chuck is a local computer consultant. On occasions he performs system installations for local computer users, particularly 3B1 owners. From the information I have, it would seem that Chuck also likes to break into 3B1's using the bugs in the user agent and destory their files systems, etc. One such user, who apparently was on his hate-list, had to have another consultant come in and spend a considerable number of hours undoing the damage caused by Chuck. Chuck added me to his hate-list after I complained about his company using USENET for the sale of commercial software, an activity which is forbidded outside of a small number of newsgroups. I feel the recent announcement of a large piece of free software by myself is very infuriating to a man who wants to use the network to pad his own wallet. But I feel there is a bigger issue involved here. If the bugs in the user agent on the 3B1 are closed further still, Chuck will be unable to break into systems with the ease he currently enjoys. Crackers like nothing less than having their cracking activities turned off. After the first time this information was posted [ about his cracking ], Chuck wrote threatening e-mail to a person he suspected of giving out the information. Chuck can not stand to have the truth known about him. Chuck has tried several different approaches to have me silenced. This slander campaign which resulted from the login clone announcement is only the most recent. As for trusting freeware, don't. The great advantage of having the source is that you get to see what is going on. If you can't understand the code, DON'T USE IT. This is very true for a privileged package of programs such as my login clone. If you don't trust the code, don't use it. And you can rest assured that if Chuck Brunow is complaining about it, that it is not only free, it will also prevent him from breaking into your system better than the software you are presently using. -- John F. Haugh II +-Cat of the Week:--------------_ /|- VoiceNet: (214) 250-3311 Data: -6272 |Aren't you absolutely sick and \'o.O' InterNet: jfh@rpp386.Dallas.TX.US |tired of looking at these damn =(___)= UucpNet :!killer!rpp386!jfh +things in everybody's .sig?-------U---