Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!labrea!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!noao!asuvax!nud!mcdchg!ddsw1!karl From: karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general Subject: Re: login security package Summary: Ok, guys, let's not claw each other out on the net. Message-ID: <2284@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Date: 29 Nov 88 20:27:39 GMT References: <519@whizz.uucp> <185@loci.UUCP> Reply-To: karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM(Karl Denninger) Followup-To: alt.flame Distribution: unix-pc Organization: Macro Computer Solutions, Inc., Mundelein, IL Lines: 41 In article <185@loci.UUCP> clb@loci.UUCP (Charles Brunow) writes: >In article <519@whizz.uucp>, bbh@whizz.uucp (Bud Hovell) writes: >> John Hough (jfh@rpp386) is building a drop-in replacement login, and this >> posting is to inquire for some wizard who is willing to assist on the beta >> testing by providing feedback on mods and suggestions for enabling it to run >> on the UNIXPC. > > I know this guy and his software and I wouldn't touch it with > a stick. This stuff is developed (loosely interpreted) on a > xenix box and I recommend that you go through it very carefully > before you put on real Unix. Charles, that's not nice at all. I have looked at jfh's login replacement, and it looks ok to me. I do remember the two of you getting into a rather nasty spat over the net a while back regarding your connections to each other's systems. To despise John is ok, and your right. To disparge his code without even _looking_ at it is nasty, rude, and uncalled for. John is attempting to provide a real service for the Usenet community -- this shadow code is something I had been meaning to write for a long, long time, but I have to eat too and work that pays must get done before work that is done for love and the benefit of the public at large. John DID take the time, DID produce the code, and while it's not quite good enough for us here at the moment, it DOES work and he is continuing development. As for the gratuitous slam at Xenix, that was uncalled for too, especially when you consider that John HAS taken the time to #ifdef the appropriate options for his login replacement, and that current Xenix systems are nearly up to SVR3 standards. (Before you flame me on the Xenix point - be careful: we have code that runs interchangably, same source, on Xenix and the UNIXPC; it's AKCS, one of our major products) I think you owe jfh@rpp386 an apology. -- Karl Denninger (karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM, ddsw1!karl) Data: [+1 312 566-8912], Voice: [+1 312 566-8910] Macro Computer Solutions, Inc. "Quality solutions at a fair price"