Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!ucsd!nosc!humu!uhccux!lee From: lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Greg Lee) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: Sound and complete definitions of intelligence. Message-ID: <2768@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Date: 7 Dec 88 14:47:12 GMT References:Organization: University of Hawaii Lines: 24 From article , by josh@klaatu.rutgers.edu (J Storrs Hall): " ... " Now I claim that the relation of the pc to the human mind is " like that of a kitten to a tiger ... " but the defining characteristic is missing: the kitten is not " deadly, ... Not bad, but why don't we make it a tiger cub instead of a kitten? A tiger cub can grow into a tiger, and probably will ... " Moravec estimates 10 teraops/10 terawords to be human-equivalent " computational power. ... Surely such estimates are frivolous. We don't know what or how humans compute in at least one crucial area, language, except functionally by the gross results we can observe. Could you estimate the computational resources consumed by an unknown program executing under an unknown operating system given some small samples of its input and output and fragmentary information about the device in use? Not feasible, without (re)constructing the program, at least, which we haven't yet managed to do for humans. Greg, lee@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu