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From: bob@accuvax.nwu.edu (Bob Hablutzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: TML Pascal II
Message-ID: <10050053@accuvax.nwu.edu>
Date: 28 Nov 88 14:18:50 GMT
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Organization: Northwestern U, Evanston IL, USA
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> I don't know if this bothers anyone else, but it seems that for several
> months now the people at TML have been advertising their TML Pascal II
> compiler as being complete with a full implementation of MPW 2.0.2.
> Their advertized list price is $125.  MPW 2.0.2 is available through
> APDA for $200.  How do they do this?

> I've heard that the MPW shipped with TML Pascal II doesn't include
> everything, and I'm curious to find out what's missing.  If not much is,
> I'll wonder again how they do it.  (APDA lists the MPW Assembler at $100,
> which means that TML is charging $25 for their compiler if the MPW they
> ship isn't complete.)

The MPW shipped with TML is complete MPW - but not the assembler. TML comes
on four diskettes - one for TML, and three for MPW. I haven't noticed any
difference between the MPW with TML and the MPW I got from Apple. Except, 
of course, the assembler.

> Maybe since MPW 3.0B1 has been made available APDA feels that they can
> give away MPW 2.0.2 for little or nothing.  What happens when MPW 3.0
> Final hits the market?  Will TML offer an upgrade to 3.0 for one-half
> of what the rest of us will have paid?  Or will their upgrade cost as
> much as ours?

From the TML documentation: "As you may already know, the Macintosh
Programmer's Workshop software and documentation are licensed from Apple
Computer, Inc., As Apple Computer releases future upgrades to its MPW software
and documenation, TML Systems will, in turn, offer the same upgrade to you"
(Quoted without permission).

Bob Hablutzel	BOB@NUACC.ACNS.NWU.EDU