Xref: utzoo comp.ai:2734 talk.philosophy.misc:1644 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!mcvax!ukc!strath-cs!glasgow!gilbert From: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.ai,talk.philosophy.misc Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence and Intelligence Message-ID: <1983@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> Date: 28 Nov 88 09:42:20 GMT References: <484@soleil.UUCP> <1654@hp-sdd.HP.COM> <1908@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <1791@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> <819@novavax.UUCP> <1976@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <1816@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> Reply-To: gilbert@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Comp Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland Lines: 35 In article <1816@cadre.dsl.PITTSBURGH.EDU> geb@cadre.dsl.pittsburgh.edu (Gordon E. Banks) writes: >it make a sound? I think it is imaginable that there could be >in this universe solitary entities that "think". Not the same as intelligence. You can think dumb things. >AI will not convince except with results. Wrong, and you misunderstand the problem of 'results' in human science. An experiment proves very little in psychology. It is the design and the generalisation which are crucial, and these can only proceed by argument. >Your not so subtle needling of Americans would seem less >hypocritical if it originated in a country (and continent) Before this gets out of hand, the reference to U.S. slavery was just the best example I know of, due to the quality of the historical sources. I wasn't singling out America, and I apologise to anyone who was (mistakenly) annoyed, either by my posting, or by believing this misinterpretation. As for cultural styles, I was only drawing attention to the differences. I was not trying to create division or claim supriority. As for approaches to literacy, well there are differences here, and it looks like at least one American takes gentle jokey references to this the wrong way. Still, this is an international net, and we can't all tailor our style of writing to suit one culture. >Is this some supernatural notion, or is >it the result of evolution, or culture, or some other natural process? Don't know, do you? There is a whole range of experience which does not seem to hav a mechanical basis. Which behaviour is AI trying to cover (and do say 'intelligent' behaviour, since this means nothing here)? -- Gilbert Cockton, Department of Computing Science, The University, Glasgow gilbert@uk.ac.glasgow.cs!ukc!glasgow!gilbert