Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!rutgers!mailrus!ncar!ames!vsi1!octopus!avsd!childers From: childers@avsd.UUCP (Richard Childers) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Soviet Access to Usenet Keywords: Espionage arpanet Message-ID: <425@avsd.UUCP> Date: 8 Dec 88 21:39:03 GMT References: <8081@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <2672@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> <650@sbsvax.UUCP> <2200@gofast.camcon.co.uk> Reply-To: childers@avsd.UUCP (Richard Childers) Organization: AMPEX Corporation, Redwood City, CA Lines: 28 In article <2200@gofast.camcon.co.uk> mfr@camcon.co.uk (Mike Richardson) writes: >In article 2406 Michael Greim gives the "names" of the "security" >organisations in the USA, USSR, UK and W. Germany. Well, the officially accepted acronyms. >A trivial point but (for the moment at least), MI5 and MI6 do not exist, >at least not officially. This was stated by Sir Robert Armstrong, >Secretary to the Cabinet during one of the interminable Spycatcher trials. And I suppose you believe everything you hear or read ? It seems pretty clear to everyone else that they *do* exist. What is your point ? That they are officially denied by 'responsible' entities, in direct contradiction to the evidence of everyone's senses ? Or that you don't feel they exist ? Or that British citizens get harrassed for suggesting in public that MI5 and MI6 exist, regardless of their actual purpose ? >Mike Richardson -- richard -- * "... where there is no movement, there is no perception." * * Ribot, _The Psychology of Attention_ * * ..{amdahl|decwrl|octopus|pyramid|ucbvax}!avsd.UUCP!childers@tycho * * AMPEX Corporation - Audio-Visual Systems Division, R & D *