Xref: utzoo comp.edu:1508 sci.math:5047 sci.physics:5074 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!unmvax!ncar!ames!amdahl!johnm From: johnm@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (John Murray) Newsgroups: comp.edu,sci.math,sci.physics Subject: Re: Student and Course Integrity Message-ID:Date: 8 Dec 88 20:03:14 GMT References: <1131@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu> <1887@sun.soe.clarkson.edu> Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA Lines: 25 In article <1887@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>, jk0@clutx.clarkson.edu (Jason Coughlin,221 Rey,,) writes: > ....(profs) feel their courses and the books that they use have degenerated, > and they attribute this degeneration to their students. . . . . > . . . is it really the students? And if it IS the students, > what's happened? Is it a loss of motivation (, and just what are we > motivated to do these days)? . . . . > . . . . The end-goal for all of us is to determine > what happened to our academic integrity. The answer to what has happened to academic integrity appears in another posting to this newsgroup. > From: gds@spam.istc.sri.com (Greg Skinner) > Message-ID: <15338@joyce.istc.sri.com> > I took a class called Social Psychology in my senior year. . . . > . . . . at the first class meeting, the > professor passed a sheet around that you could sign which would > guarantee you an A if you did not attend any more classes. However, > you forfeited your guaranteed A (you had to take the final and earn it > instead) if you returned to class. Absolutly incredible!!! And some professors have the audacity to blame the students for degeneration and loss of motivation! - John M. (My own opinions, etc.)