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From: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan)
Newsgroups: sci.space.shuttle,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Do unto others.... (Re: Internationalist posturings.)
Summary: `There is a well of antiAmericanism.' -- Brian Mulroney
Message-ID: <2105@garth.UUCP>
Date: 4 Dec 88 05:40:22 GMT
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Reply-To: smryan@garth.UUCP (Steven Ryan)
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>> Whereas mailing Canadian jingoism instead of posting it is merely cowardice.

>I have had significant dealings with Americans from all parts of the USA and 
>have found them to be, for the most part, extremely likable people.

You forgot to mark this with the standard disclaimer:

begin disclaimer section
      I cannot be biassed against Americans, because .....
end disclaimer section

I will be honest. I have not worked with many people whom I have known to be
Canadian. I didn't consider citizenship to be relevant or even my business.
Putting labels on people is only useful when you wish to put them in box and
then attack the box instead of the people.

Mayhaps, I should reconsider that.

>unfortunatly, are proof positive that the UGLY american is still in existance.

Isn't that amazing how is his knee just jerks right out? Can I do again? Let me
try:

           Lumber products.

Of course, we know there's no such thing as an Ugly Canadian. Not privy to
Canadian.politics, I must assume some strange transformation of the term
`Ugly American.' It referred to American imperialism, the idea being that
interference with or JUDGEMENT of the affairs of another country was ugly.
Now it means that this American is deemed Ugly to us because he asked us
not to interfere with or judge the internal affairs of his country.

>Not only are you bombastic and offensive, you are also unable to use the
>english language correctly.

As always, complaints about spelling and language are silly.
           unfortunatly/unfortunately
           existance/existence
           english/English  (au parlez-vous francais?)
           strenghts/strengths

>No one has displayed any jingoism in this discussion of the US space program/
>NASA except yourself.

Why, the way you totally miss the point is amazing. Do you use mirrors?

Somehow you have managed to twist a characterisation of a suite of letters,
only some of which I posted, into a characterisation of public messages which
I had explicitly excluded.

>> Whereas mailing Canadian jingoism instead of posting it is merely cowardice.

The operative word here is `mailing.' Nobody voluntarily `displayed' their
jingoism. Most of it I flushed down the toilet (they were of that calibre).

>discussion of the strenghts and weakness of NASA and it's management (or
>lack thereof).

Of course, you have seen just so many nasty things to such comments, right?

Right.

How the hell can I get it through your peasized brain that I am complaining
about Henry's damn .SIGNATURE which he uses THROUGHOUT the network to stand
JUDGEMENT on the affairs of my country?

I guess that makes Henry a Beautiful Canadian.

But nope. Any criticism of one aspect of one's person behaviour is met by this
drivel where you have make me up as some imperialist against whom nearly every
Canadian on the entire network must rally against.

Being a internationalist does not mean attacking people and affairs and then
saying `no, you can't attack me, because that wouldn't be being an
internationalist.'

What does mean to striving for international cooperation, not by treading on
people's toes, but respecting differences while emphasising similarities.

>a reaction to your continous stream of boorish comments.

Canadians find it boorish. Turns out some Americans are just as sick of Henry's
flaunting snide remarks all over the network as I am.

>If you wish to discuss this further, please move to talk.bizarre, as the rest
>of us would like to read articles concerning the subject we're here to
>discuss in the first place - SPACE and SPACE.SHUTTLES, not your inability
>to articulate in an intelligent interchange of ideas.

Now isn't that cute. You don't want discuss this, so shut up.

Do you think shuttles grow on trees? Somebody has to pay for them.

>p.s. My opinions are my own.

Pity, because so many of your countrymen seem to share them.

Ta-ta.
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