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From: schabacker@frambo.dec.com (Tim, posting for CB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: "PD Piracy"
Message-ID: <8809201234.AA02448@decwrl.dec.com>
Date: 20 Sep 88 12:34:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
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Well, you all read Peters (and Richards) posting, and yes, it was me
who informed Peter about these greedy slimeballs.
I'll post my answer to Peter here:
----
The distressing factors are:

1. I receive my Fish disks directly from Fred, and glady pay my $5
per disk, since I get them as soon as they're available AND via
AirMail for that price. And don't forget that Fred usually does more
than grab "prepared" work and puts it on his disks.

2. Compared to most other PD distributors in W. Germany, they take
TWICE the price (yes Virginia, you can get ALL sort of PD disks in
Germany for about $2.50 per disk or less, depending on the amount of
disks).

3. These 46 offered programs are exactly the same they describe in
their "Das zweite Amiga Public Domain Buch". This book features a
German translation and description of the documentation to that
programs. This product costs about $25, which I can tolerate, since
there is actual work (translation) involved.

To compose my points:

I simply makes me puke if some a**hole makes a quick (big) buck with
the work of others.
----

To quote Peter's Browser documentation:
"Browser version 1.2, copyright 1987, 1988 by Peter da Silva.
 Binary redistribution permitted at no charge."
                                    ^^^^^^^^^
Alas this probably means that Peter wants no money for Browser,
charging anything more than the reproduction costs for that program
strikes me as highly immoral.

And to quote the TurboBackup.doc (which is also on that sampler):

				DISCLAIMER
				----------

	Copyright 1988 by Steffen Stempel and Martin Kopp.
	You may distribute this program for non-commercial purposes.
	You are encouraged to make as much copies of TURBOBACKUP as
	you like as long as you're not violating any of the statements
	below.
	
	- Nobody except the authors are allowed to gain any profit by
	  using and/or distributing this program. This includes the 
	  duplication of commercial disks.
	.
	.

or let's quote the zoo docs:

                 Distribution of  the executable AmigaZoo is permitted
               subject to the following conditions.   Any violation of
               these conditions  may lead  to damages  in favor of the
               copyright owner.

                 AmigaZoo 1.71 may be  duplicated and  distributed, or
               made available  for downloading via telecommunications,
               for no fee above normal connect charges.  Organizations
               charging more  than a  total of  $5.00 postpaid for the
               disk(s)  containing   AmigaZoo   are   prohibited  from
               distributing AmigaZoo.  It is  prohibited to distribute
               AmigaZoo as part  of  any  package  over  which anybody
               other than  Rahul Dhesi claims a licensing right, right
               of distribution, or copyright  or compilation copyright
               of any  kind.   It is prohibited to distribute AmigaZoo
               with any copyright notices removed.


etc.

Needless to say that since I own two hard disks, my four disk drives
are usually copying Fish disks for all my fellow brewers and friends
FOR FREE. Even for individuals I don't know or like. 

Enough of this, my stomach hurts. :-(

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