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From: dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: "PD Piracy"
Message-ID: <389@boing.UUCP>
Date: 21 Sep 88 06:46:59 GMT
References: <8809201234.AA02448@decwrl.dec.com>
Reply-To: dale@boing.UUCP (Dale Luck)
Organization: Boing, Milpitas, Ca.
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In article <8809201234.AA02448@decwrl.dec.com> schabacker@frambo.dec.com
		 (Tim, posting for CB) writes:
>
>
>And to quote the TurboBackup.doc (which is also on that sampler):
>
>				DISCLAIMER
>				----------
>
>	Copyright 1988 by Steffen Stempel and Martin Kopp.
>	You may distribute this program for non-commercial purposes.
		
>	
>	- Nobody except the authors are allowed to gain any profit by
>	  using and/or distributing this program. This includes the 
>	  duplication of commercial disks.
>
>or let's quote the zoo docs:
>
		
>                 AmigaZoo 1.71 may be  duplicated and  distributed, or
>               made available  for downloading via telecommunications,
>               for no fee above normal connect charges.  Organizations
>               charging more  than a  total of  $5.00 postpaid for the
>               disk(s)  containing   AmigaZoo   are   prohibited  from
>               distributing AmigaZoo.  It is  prohibited to distribute
>               AmigaZoo as part  of  any  package  over  which anybody
>               other than  Rahul Dhesi claims a licensing right, right
>               of distribution, or copyright  or compilation copyright
>               of any  kind.   It is prohibited to distribute AmigaZoo
>               with any copyright notices removed.
>

Forgive for including so much of the original article, I trimmed as much as
could but needed to leave some information.

I have a software package that is going to require atleast 4 floppies to
distribute, AFTER COMPRESSION. I am using the pd compress utility for the
installation.

However since not everyone has compress on their system, I chose to throw
a copy in there as well to make sure.  According to the above disclaimer
on ZOO, it would prevent me from ever using AmigaZoo as a distribution
mechanism even though it may be more ideal.

I would not be charging for 'AmigaZoo', AmigaZoo is actually a very small
part of the process and is only used to unzoo the binaries and install them
on the harddisk.

The user is allowed to do whatever they want with zoo when done.

AmigaZoo would get greater distribution since it is almost getting a free
ride.

So it seems to me the only way for someone to make use of a pd program with
such a disclaimer is to contact the copyright holder themself and get
written authority to reproduce the pd program and distribute the pd program
in a way contradictory to the disclaimer.

Was that clear?  Was there something I missed?

-- 
Dale Luck     Boing, Inc. {cbmvax|oliveb|pyramid}|!amiga!boing!dale
Although I do contract work for Amiga-LosGatos, my opinions probably
don't represent those of Commodore or its management or its engineers,
but I think the world would be a better place if they did.