Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!iuvax!ndcheg!ndmath!thelink!oliver From: oliver@thelink.UUCP (Joel Sumner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Stuff Keywords: IIgs+? Message-ID: <167@thelink.UUCP> Date: 20 Sep 88 00:40:53 GMT Organization: TheLink-Public Access Unix, South Bend, IN. Lines: 37 >And the IIGS without a 3.5" disk is like a peanut butter sandwich without >the jelly. Naahhh... More like a peanut butter sandwich without the bread...:) One question for all.. Some people have said that they are anxious for the 65832 chip to come so they can put it in a new IIgs... I have one technical question.. The 65816 is an 8/16 bit chip.. 16 bits on the inside and 8 bits to the rest of the computer... Since the 65832 is supposed to be pin-compatible with the 65816, then it will make that chip an 8/32 bit processor... How much of a speed increase is it if the chip can't talk to the rest of the machine? Drive access time will still be sad while the machine slows down to 1mhz for drive access. It sounds like Apple is trying to shoehorn a Ferrari engine in a VW Beetle. The engine has to be cut down so it can fit in the engine compartment (the 65832 having 8 bit data in and out of the chip). The handling will be bad because the engine overpowers the car..(well, no analogy for this but you get the point). If Apple insists on having 8-bit/16-bit downward compatability, is there any way to expand the data lines to the rest of the machine up to 32 data paths.. It seems that you can't just keep putting faster processors into a machine and expect it to keep up with the big boys (if that is even what Apple wants it to do). I am not really knowledgeable on any of this stuff or on chip design but this is how I see it from my ground floor view... Can you please prove me wrong and point out something that I missed? (Will RAM access suffer from lack of 16 bit data paths or does RAM always get addressed 8 bits at a time anyway?) Joel Sumner A technological advance is nothing more than oliver@thelink.UUCP a Machine that is currently unsupported - Me !iuvax!ndmath!thelink!oliver GEnie --> JOEL.SUMNER [me] Is there a fallout shelter nearby? - Oliver ^^^^^^^^^^^ new!!!!!!