Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!occrsh!uokmax!rob From: rob@uokmax.UUCP (Robert K Shull) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Computer for the rest of us? Message-ID: <1803@uokmax.UUCP> Date: 26 Sep 88 15:27:41 GMT References: <430043@hpcea.CE.HP.COM> <11540170@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> <264@rna.UUCP> Reply-To: rob@uokmax.UUCP (Robert K Shull) Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK Lines: 32 >In article <11540170@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> dlw@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >Apple does not care about us anymore...their prices reflect that. To my mind >the minimal Macintosh is a Mac II with at least 2 megs of memory, Color and >at least a 90 meg hard disk. How many individuals will be able to afford this >at the rate Apple's prices are going? Not many I assure you. > >... I don't want an Apple II, and I won't buy one. I want a Personal >Workstation ... > Personally, I think the minimum Personal Workstation is a Sun 4 with a 25 inch color monitor, 32 meg, and dual 1200 meg drives. Oh yeah, and a 4 gig optical cartridge for backup. And a color scanner. And a color printer. And some software. I can't get by with anything less, and I think it's a shame that Sun doesn't care anymore. How many individuals will be able to afford this at the rate Sun's prices are going? Not many I assure you. Oh yeah, for those with higher-than-average densities: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) Be realistic. I know people who get by fine with a Commodore 64. It does everything they want to do. I know people who complain that our Alliant is too slow. I'm sure that there are people who can't get by with just ONE Cray. The system you talk about costs about $5000 university pricing, which means you should pay about $7000 street price (still less than $9000 even with the price increase) Even adding in A/UX, a minimal color Sun will run you a lot more. Then check out maintenance/repair costs, software costs. I think you've already got your Personal Workstation Robert -- Robert K. Shull University of Oklahoma, Engineering Computer Network att!occrsh!uokmax!rob or sun!texsun!uokmax!rob