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From: werner@utastro.UUCP (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.admin
Subject: Re: A SERIOUS DILEMMA FOR THE NET
Summary: what is CTS.COM?  just another nuisance?
Message-ID: <3168@utastro.UUCP>
Date: 25 Sep 88 07:18:04 GMT
References: <7086@gryphon.CTS.COM> <9337@cup.portal.com> <233@serene.CTS.COM>
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Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX
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recent articles from such sites as "serene" and "gryphon" may have caught
your attention also, enough to make me curious to want to learn what sites
*.CTS.COM are all about.  Am I mistaken in the impression that there are some
kind of commercial time-sharing/BBS type of machines, possibly competing
with PORTAL in some ways?  Please send me Email and I'll summarize and either
post or mail what I learn, depending on the number of requests I get.

I post this in the hope that readers will add to the sparse info I can find
in the maps and at NIC while at the same time indicating what I know already...
also to benefit those who may not have ready. easy access to this info...


   Here is the information I found in the SRI-NIC database and UUCP-maps:

werner> telnet sri-nic.arpa
.....
 SRI-NIC, TOPS-20 Monitor 6.1(7341)-4
@whois cts.com

Whois: cts.com
Crash TimeSharing (CTS-DOM)
   1274 Vista Del Monte
   El Cajon, CA 92020-6830

   Domain Name: CTS.COM

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Blue, Bill  (BB167)  bblue@CRASH.CTS.COM
      (619) 444-7004

   Domain servers in listed order:

   RUTGERS.EDU                  128.6.4.7
   AOS.BRL.MIL                  128.20.1.2, 192.5.25.82
   HARVARD.HARVARD.EDU          10.0.0.9, 128.103.1.1

   No known hosts under this secondary domain.

@whois host crash.cts.com
No match for host "crash.cts.com".



		and the information in the maps:

UUCP mail information for host gryphon (#USENET lines show USENET news links):
#Name			gryphon
#System-CPU-OS		SCO Xenix SV
#Organization		TE Technology
#Contact		Gregory M. Laskin
#Electronic-Address	greg@gryphon.CTS.COM
#Telephone		+1 213 513-1100
#Telephone		+1 213 372-1294
#Postal-Address		1165 E. 230th St., Carson, CA 90745
#Latitude-Longitude	33 54 N / 118 18 W
#Remarks		gryphon is located in Redondo Beach, CA.
#Remarks		gryphon has 2400 baud and Telebit Trailblazer + available.
#Written-by		greg@gryphon.CTS.COM Fri Aug 26 18:58:03 PDT 1988
#USENET	elroy desint aztec pande
#USENET	mejac cadovax crash lakesys ddsw1 pnet02 lll-winken 
#USENET	marque ksala vector anb02 
#
pnet02 = pnet02.cts.com
gryphon =gryphon.cts.com
gryphon pnet02(LOCAL)
pnet02	PNET(DIRECT)
gryphon		amy(POLLED),	  anb02(DIRECT),   aztec(DIRECT),
....etc....




UUCP mail information for host serene (#USENET lines show USENET news links):
#Name			serene
#System-CPU-OS		Fast AT clone; Xenix 286 2.2.2
#Organization		RF Engineering
#Contact		Rick Farris
#Electronic-Address	!serene!rfarris
#Telephone		(619) 259-6793 (voice)
#Postal-Address		POB M, Del Mar, CA 92014
#Latitude-Longitude	33 5', 117 41'
#Remarks		Unix and MS-Dos C programming.	GPIB Device drivers.
#Written-by		serene!rfarris (Rick Farris); Sat Aug 13 11:00:41 PDT 1988
#
serene	bang(DIRECT), btree(DIRECT), crash(DEMAND), del(DEMAND), ncr-sd(DEMAND)





UUCP mail information for host bang (#USENET lines show USENET news links):
#Name			bang
#System-CPU-OS		AT Clone, Xenix 2.2
#Organization		Internet Communications Co.
#Contact		Bret Marquis
#Electronic-Address	{hplabs!hp-sdd, crash, sdcsvax}!bang!bam
#Telephone		619/452-2110
#Postal-Address		P.O. Box 12051, La Jolla, CA 92037
#Latitude-Longitude	32 44 N / 117 11 W city
#Remarks		Host for public access P-Net, +1 619 450 0052
#Written-by		crash!bblue (Bill Blue); 
#USENET
#
bang	crash(DEMAND), chem(DEMAND), ucsd(DEMAND), blia(DAILY),
	gryphon(DAILY/2), serene(DEMAND), pnet08(LOCAL), datel(DIRECT)
bang = bigbang
bang = bang.cts.com






UUCP mail information for host crash (#USENET lines show USENET news links):
#Name			.cts.com, crash
#F	nosc.mil
#Organization		Crash TimeSharing
#System-CPU-OS		Symmetric s/375, BSD 4.2/3
#Contact		Bill Blue
#Electronic-Address	bblue@crash.cts.com
#Telephone		+1 619 444 7004
#Postal-Address		1274 Vista Del Monte, El Cajon, CA  92020-6830
#Latitude-Longitude	32 47 N / 116 56 W
#USENET	ncr-sd telesoft (full)
#USENET	cacilj sdsu vixie stag gryphon pnet01 rush xroads jack elgar (partials)
#Remarks		registered
#Remarks		gateway to P-Net and ProLine networks
#Remarks		Host to public access P-Net, +1 619 444 7006
#Written-by		crash!bblue (Bill Blue); Sun Aug 28 09:21:40 PDT 1988
#
	< long list of PNET-sites deleted >   .... Pnet =?= PUBLIC access net?

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