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From: phil@titan.rice.edu (William LeFebvre)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: Free Sun bash
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Date: 19 Sep 88 18:09:11 GMT
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In article <24947@bu-cs.BU.EDU> madd@bu-it.bu.edu (Jim Frost) writes:
>(This discussion doesn't really belong here so I've redirected
>followups to comp.unix.wizards)
>
>In article <657@mace.cc.purdue.edu> mtr@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Miek Rowan) writes:
>|I have a color Sun 3 in my office and it is just unacceptably slow.
>|Especially if you want to use X11R2, but it carries on to Sunview
>|also.  It can get so that scrolling is no better than 1200 baud dial
>|up.  HP's color workstation is about 100 times faster, although they
>|have thier own problems with networking.  
>
>Hmm.  I use a Sun 2/120 with x11r2 and it's not "unacceptably slow"
>for most things.  If you put xterm into "jump" mode you get good speed
>on the scrolling.

[ I won't do it I won't do it I won't do it I won't do it I won't do it 
  I won't post a followup to this message I won't I won't I won't
  YAAAHHHHHHH! ]

Oh well.  This should really be discussed in Sun-Spots (was that a
shameless plug or what?).  If Miek Rowan has problems with Sun and Sun
hardware/software, he would do well to discuss them *in detail* in
sun-spots (or in comp.sys.sun).

His machine is slow, by the way, because it is a color machine.  The color
frame buffers are really slow.  He might try using just the B&W plane, but
I don't know if you can coerce X into doing that.  I understand that there
are also a few problems with the color implementation of X11R2, so the
fault might not lie strictly with the hardware.  There are other things
that could also be slowing down the machine:  insufficient real memory for
the demand (you should have at least 4 meg to run SunView acceptably),
loaded network, loaded disk server, slow disk server.

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			William LeFebvre
			Sun-Spots moderator
			Department of Computer Science
			Rice University