Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:20956 comp.sys.atari.st:11646 Path: utzoo!utgpu!attcan!uunet!husc6!bbn!oberon!cit-vax!elroy!gryphon!crash!victoro From: victoro@crash.cts.com (Victor O'Rear) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Genie? Message-ID: <3480@crash.cts.com> Date: 28 Sep 88 19:03:15 GMT References: <4788@saturn.ucsc.edu> <861@viscous> <2279@silver.bacs.indiana.edu> <881@viscous> <2340@silver.bacs.indiana.edu> <5631@claris.UUCP> Reply-To: victoro@crash.CTS.COM (Dr. Snuggles) Distribution: na Organization: Crash TS, El Cajon, CA Lines: 50 In article <5631@claris.UUCP> drc@claris.UUCP (Dennis Cohen) writes: > >If you're talking about the differential at 1200 baud, then I think that GEnie >is a definite price-performance winner; however, if you're running at 2400, >then CI$ becomes the big win. There are far more 2400 baud CI$ nodes, they >are still 12.50/hr, and you can get there at that rate 24 hr/day. GEnie, on >the other hand has a paucity of 2400 baud nodes, they cost more per hour, and >every one I have been able to find has a $10 or $12/hr "surcharge" added. On another service, this argument was said on the service I belong to... In response to BYTE being MS-DOS, I usually ask the accusser when he or she last read BYTE. In your case, I would have pointed out that the August issue had a 96-page special supplement for Mac users. I also would have pointed out the article on UNIX for the Mac, products for the Mac galore, reviews of numerous non-MS-DOS products, and three articles on C. As for BIX being too expensive during prime time, I mention that Genie is $34 an hour. As CIS being cheaper, I point out that 1200-baud access over CIS lines at non peak is $12.50. BIX is $12. At 2400, the other guys are more expensive as well (BIX is $13.50). If folks have PC Pursuit, they can call our Boston number. If folks used BIX when it first went on line, their account is still avail- able. They should try the commands now. I can't imagine anyone truly believing that Genie or CIS is more spunky. It just aint so. File transfers are a booger wherever you go on a packet network. BIX was miserable at first. Now, I think we are as good as anybody. This is in no way a criticism of you, Jim. I have had these sort of discussions at shows before. Usually, the complainer is speaking through his hat. I try not to argue, but I do shot holes, gently, in their statements. It's nice to hear that we have some good points. Most of the complaints you cite *were* true. When we started up, frankly, we had no idea of what we were doing. At least I didn't. I shouldn't speak for everyone else. We haven't done any marketing to counteract the rumors and mis- information out there. This soon will change. [End of captured text..] Just thought another viewpoint would be interesting. Me, I'm waiting until I can think of a free way into C$. -- =============================================================================== ! Victor O'Rear {hplabs!hp-sdd, akgua, sdcsvax, nosc.mil}!crash!victoro | | ARPA: crash!victoro@nosc.ARPA and home: (619) 588-7423 (Sand Eigo, Ca) | | | | "Fools, Idiots! Don't they realize that they are dealing with forces | | beyond comprehension!" - "Doctor Science" | ===============================================================================