Xref: utzoo comp.lang.c++:1653 comp.lang.smalltalk:693
Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk
Path: utzoo!henry
From: henry@utzoo.uucp (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: OO debuggers
Message-ID: <1988Sep22.183025.15665@utzoo.uucp>
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
References: <3967@tekgvs.GVS.TEK.COM>
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 88 18:30:25 GMT

In article <3967@tekgvs.GVS.TEK.COM> jans@tekgvs.GVS.TEK.COM (Jan Steinman) writes:
>... Henry Spencer would turn this discussion into a 
>Smalltalk-bashing session, and seems to be unwilling to discuss the 
>shortcomings of C++ when used for OO...

"If you don't want flames, don't be inflammatory."  Let us discuss how,
specifically, Smalltalk is better, not rant about how lousy C++ is.

Nobody, including me, claims that C++ is perfect.  It is a small step in
the right direction, and by the looks of it, the market is much more willing
to accept a small step than a large one.  If there are ways in which that
small step can be made a bit larger, I for one would be interested to hear
about them.  It may not be too late to improve the situation.

Please don't just say "C++ is crummy and everyone should run right out and
spend lots of time and effort learning about Smalltalk before saying
anything more".  I, for one, don't have time to do that just now.  You've
already made that effort; how about sharing some of your knowledge with
the unwashed masses?
-- 
NASA is into artificial        |     Henry Spencer at U of Toronto Zoology
stupidity.  - Jerry Pournelle  | uunet!attcan!utzoo!henry henry@zoo.toronto.edu