Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!mtuxo!mtgzz!drutx!csd From: csd@drutx.ATT.COM (Scott Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: Unmovable Spaces under Norton Summary: From the manual ... Message-ID: <8495@drutx.ATT.COM> Date: 16 Aug 88 19:44:50 GMT References: <2306@phred.UUCP> Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO Lines: 24 My Norton Utilities Manual reads as follows: "Certain copy-protected programs put one or more files on your hard disk that must not be relocated. ... Most of these protection techniques set the hidden or system attribute (or both) for their immovable files; a few use other methods. "Speed Disk takes special precautions to avoid disturbing such programs. Each file on a disk is examined separately. The following items are never moved: any hidden file or hidden subdirectory, any files within a hidden subdirectory, and any hidden subdirectories of hidden subdirectories. There are a few copy-protection schemes (from Vault and Softguard Systems, for example) that do not hide their copy-protected program files. Speed Disk recognizes these files as well and does not move them." Conclusion: Files do not have to be hidden or system files to be unmoveable. In fact, I have tracked down some of the unmoveable blocks on my disk (by selectively removing files and then running SD) and found them to be programs that were none of the above, but that apparently looked that way to SD. Scott Davis