Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mailrus!ncar!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!AECLCR.BITNET!01659 From: 01659@AECLCR.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st Subject: RE: (i)Idiotic postings (ii)looking for information Message-ID: <8808160411.AA01443@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 16 Aug 88 02:20:20 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 70 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1988 22:13 EDT From: <<<<< Greg >>>>> <01659@AECLCR> Subject: RE: (i)Idiotic postings (ii)looking for information To:For about 4 or 5 weeks now I have been reading the info-Atari16 postings and have come to the conclusion that (i) every once in a while something useful appears and thus I should continue reading the postings and (ii) if most of the dialog in the postings is typical of multi-user banter on a BBS then I would be embarrassed to admit I was a participant. For example, I have had to endure the inane dialog about parochial Americans, lousy Rolls Royces and hype about Mercedes and Porches. Can someone invent an electronic filter to clean out the refuse from the postings? Can the persons who post listings please use a little discretion and refrain from bickering back and forth? How about some straight ahead technical info about ST hardware and software. PLEASE!!!!!!! I have a Mega2/Megafile20/SM125 system at home and a 1040/SH204/SM125 system at work. I use WordWriter, WordPerfect (under PC Ditto) and MS Word (under Magic Sac). I use dbMAN on my ST and dBASE III Plus on my AT at work. I use VIP, LOTUS (on my AT) and EXCEL (under Magic Sac). I use UNITERM or ST640 to log on to a CYBER system and will soon get an account on the new VAX system installed at work. Postings about any aspect of what I have listed would be greatly appreciated. ST640, very much a UNITERM look-alike, was put out by the TRIUMF facility in Vancouver, British Columbia, CANADA. However, ST640 has a nice feature UNITERM lacks (at least I am unaware of UNITERM providing the feature). TEK4010 plots generated by CYBER applications (or any mainframe pkg that produces TEK4010 device dependant files) can be written to EASYDRAW (and GEMDRAW) files. I can use a sophisticated CYBER plotting package, capture the figure to file, edit the figure using either EASYDRAW or GEMDRAW (on my AT) and dump the final figure on an HP laserjet II. This avoids having to use the site's central plotter and figures can be electronically pasted in to 1ST Word Plus documents (on the PC). ST640 will let you use inexpensive 520STs as terminals that can capture plotter output for importing to documents. When you consider that a 520ST is not much more expensive than a PC application like Smarterm 240 and that ST640 is public domain it is easy to see why some groups are standardizing on STs as terminals. One of the groups at work uses 1040STs with MAGIC SACs. No ST software is used. The group uses EXCEL, MS WORD etc. Group members and I would dearly love to have AppleTalk capability for the STs so we could talk to Macs. Is any AppleTalk capability in the offing from anyone out there? Lastly, most STs at work are hooked up to SL/1 phones to get to the CYBER and the new VAX. If the VT52 desk accessory is installed any ST can instantly receive a message from any other ST simply by dialing it via the SL/1. Is there a SMART terminal program that is (i) a desk accessory and (ii) will automatically accept info on an interrupt basis even though the desk accessory is not currently active. If so, then all our STs will have a direct, on-line E-mail service with full file exchange capability. Any assistance in this would be very helpful. ***************************************************************** * Greg Csullog 01659@AECLCR.BITNET * * 11 Silvie Street * * Deep River, Ontario * * CANADA, K0J 1P0 * * (613) 584-4767 * *****************************************************************