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From: gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu
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Subject: Re: C v.s. Modula II
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Date: 15 Aug 88 02:45:00 GMT
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I will elaborate, since I think parts of my posting were misunderstood:

>Adding an else-clause can require you to restructure the {}'s.

Here is an extreme example, and many others exist:

if (a)
	if (b)
		if (c) do_something_useful();

/* Add an else-clause for the second -if- produces */

if (a)	{
	if (b) {
		if (c) do_something_useful();
	}
	else	c_sucks_the_big_wazoo_sometimes();
}

Look at all the braces which had to be added to make the else clause
bind correctly!

>Often, for(;;) loops are written with *no body*, and adding additional
>commands can require major restructuring of the loop.

/* Here is a way to copy a string */
for(p=charbuf, q=copybuff; *p++=*q++;);

/* What if I wanted to debug this, and print characters as they were copied? */
for(p=charbuf, q=copybuff; *q;) {
	putchar(*p++=*q++);		/*  */
}

Notice how I had to restructure the looping condition to make this
change.  Things can be much worse with a more complicated loop.

>6.  C has no provision for callback procedures (you need nested
>procedures and the right semantics for the 'display').  So data
>abstraction is hindered in C.

Let us say I have a data-abstract code package that exports a procedure
that traverses a dictionary data structure.  The format of the data
structure is proprietary.  Callback requires ONE level of procedural
nesting for each nested loop.  How can I express something like this
in C?

dict: Dictionary.Handle; 		-- global variable

PrintDictionary: PROCEDURE = {
  wh: Window.Handle := Somewhere.GetAWindowHandle[];     -- used in callback
  -- A CallbackProc is a PROC[a:LONG STRING] RETURNS[BOOLEAN];
  ShowName: Dictionary.CallbackProc = {  
    Put.String[wh, a];
    Put.CR[wh];
    RETURN[TRUE]
  }
  Dictionary.Enumerate[dict, ShowName];
}

I call the Dictionary.Enumerate[] procedure, and it repeatedly makes
call to the ShowName procedure. FURTHERMORE, from within the ShowName
procedure, I can access & change the variables global to
PrintDictionary (wh, the window handle).  This is crucial if you want
to get something done, in a type-safe manner.  I don't think C++'s
pointer parameters cut the mustard.....

Callback procedures are a nice way of supporting abstract enumeration
when the language lacks something like CLU's explicit enumerators.


Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
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