Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!rutgers!mit-eddie!bbn!rochester!pt.cs.cmu.edu!speech1.cs.cmu.edu!phd From: phd@speech1.cs.cmu.edu (Paul Dietz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: Aztec source level debugger Keywords: Manx, sdb, debugger Message-ID: <2669@pt.cs.cmu.edu> Date: 11 Aug 88 16:06:28 GMT References: <15112@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> Sender: netnews@pt.cs.cmu.edu Distribution: na Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 39 In article <15112@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> dieter@cs.ucla.edu (Dieter Rothmeier) writes: > >Has anybody bought Aztec's source debugger, and what do they have to say about it? > After waiting many (>5) weeks for my LSC upgrade to arrive, I decided to get the upgrade for my old Aztec package. In great contrast to LSC, it arrived a mere three days later! So here's the good news and the bad news: sdb runs well on limited memory machines, WHEN IT RUNS. It appears to have a much better understanding of variable types than LSC's debugger, automatically printing out detailed structures when asked. The user interface isn't as slick as LSC's, but it's quite reasonable (especially for those used to dbx.) Unfortunately, sdb is amazingly buggy. In my first hour with it, I must have crashed my machine at least 10 times! I have even generated files which crash sdb when it just tries to open it! (This took all of another hour before I hit it.) Maybe I'm doing something wrong. But I never have these sorts of problems with LSC. (Though, trying to run LSC's debugger in less than 2 Meg has proved challenging at times...) One other thing that pissed me off: Manx sends out its upgrades on used floppies which you are supposed to copy and return! One of the disks I got gave me errors the second time I tried to read it! Pretty shoddy in my book! Especially considering how much they charge for their update service! Is there anyone from Manx who reads this bboard? I'd love to send in bug reports, but I'm not going to make a long distance phone call at 1200 baud to do it! Paul H. Dietz ____ ____ Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering / oo \ <_<\\\ Carnegie Mellon University /| \/ |\ \\ \\ -------------------------------------------- | | ( ) | | | ||\\ "If God had meant for penguins to fly, -->--<-- / / |\\\ / he would have given them wings." _________^__^_________/ / / \\\\-