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From: earle@MAHENDO.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Re: Is NeWS UseABLE?
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Date: 11 Aug 88 07:22:54 GMT
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>2)  If I run NeWS inside of SunView, by "setenv FRAMEBUFFER x y w h"
>(BTW, thanks to all who replied to my previous posting on this), I
>don't get a window, I just get a non-sizeable area of the screen
>that I can only run NeWS in - yuck.  If I run SunView application
>inside of NeWS, I get an unsightly border around the SunView
>application.  I'd like to be able to just run a NeWS application
>inside of SunView, in a window that looks and behaves just like a
>SunView window.

It may be `yuck', but that's what you get.  If you don't like it, run NeWS
(to take over the entire framebuffer) from inside SunView using overview(1).
You seem to want to consider NeWS a window-able application of SunView, and
it just isn't.  It's on the same level as SunView, and must be looked at
that way.  You get an unsightly border around SunView applications because
this is done on purpose to prevent strange mouse droppings from occurring
when one goes from a SunView window frame borderinto a NeWS window or NeWS
root window.  You're lucky that you can even run SunView binaries inside of
NeWS; you can't go the other way!

You'd like to be able to run NeWS applications under SunView, but (right now)
this is not possible.  When SunView 2 is released (as a toolkit for X11/NeWS),
you'll be able to do so, because by then SunView will be a subset of X11/NeWS
and everything will be one big, happy family.  Until then, sorry ...

	- Greg Earle
	  Sun Los Angeles Consulting