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From: orr@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Fraser Orr)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth
Subject: Re: Forth "Pre-Compiler" (long)
Message-ID: <1567@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Date: 11 Aug 88 10:24:51 GMT
References: <8808032106.AA01436@jade.berkeley.edu> <1563@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> <2651@pt.cs.cmu.edu>
Reply-To: orr@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Fraser Orr)
Organization: Comp Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland
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In article <2651@pt.cs.cmu.edu> ralf@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) writes:
>In article <1563@crete.cs.glasgow.ac.uk> orr@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Fraser Orr) writes:
>}If I were being equally glib(-:) I might ask, how come if forth is so much
>}easier to program in, have forth programmers not managed to produce these
>}essential tools in and for forth?
>
>Let's see now, Laxen & Perry F83 has:
>	editor
>	decompiler
>	assembler
>	debugger
>	multitasker
>	print spooler
>	listing printer
>and of course,
>	compiler/interpreter

adb
ar
as
cc
ctags
dbx
e
ed
edit
error
ex
ex
eyacc
gcore
gprof
indent
ld
lex
lint
lpq
lpr
lprm
make
man
nm
pmerge
pr
prof
ranlib
sccs
size
strings
strip
tar
time
touch
vgrind
vi
yacc

These are some of the tools on my UNIX system for c programming, 
I make it 39, vs your 8, hmmh. Oh of course you include process 
mangment in your list so there is also ps, w, kill ....:^)

>Sounds like *more* than most so-called integrated environments offer!  No
>fancy windowing/menu system, but what do you expect from 26K ? :-)

I don't expect anything form 26K, as I mentioned previously I've 
got 12Mb, moreover I can't think of many general purpose computers
of more than a couple of years vintage that have anywhere near as
little as this(though I'm sure your all about to release me of my
ignorance!)
And yes your right I did forget all the windowing stuff, suntools,
shelltool, dbxtool ... <-:

==Fraser Orr ( Dept C.S., Univ. Glasgow, Glasgow, G12 8QQ, UK)
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