Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!seismo!esosun!ucsdhub!jack!crash!jeh From: jeh@crash.cts.com (Jamie Hanrahan) Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: DEC Training Non-Disclosure Information Summary: It's the source they're worried about Message-ID: <3201@crash.cts.com> Date: 13 Jul 88 22:50:29 GMT References: <8807130948.AA13217@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: jeh@crash.CTS.COM (Jamie Hanrahan) Organization: Crash TS, El Cajon, CA Lines: 33 In article <8807130948.AA13217@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> "OCU::LPZ"writes: > > [paraphrased] DEC is requiring non-disclosure agreements because of > export restrictions. Actually it's because the handouts for these courses include quite a bit of VMS source code, which DEC is now regarding as "confidential and proprietary". (This notation appears on source fiche, and, yes, you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement to order source fiche, or source tapes for that matter.) > It is true that you won't learn about anything > [in the internals or driver classes] > that isn't covered in the Internals and Data Structures manual. I beg to differ. Of course it depends on your instructor, but when I was teaching these classes (for the DEC Ed. Svcs. office in Los Angeles, if anyone cares) I covered one helluva lot of material that wasn't in the IDSM, or in the driver book in the VMS doc set, or anywhere else but the class handouts. This material amounted to maybe 25% of the course. Another 5% was unique to my presentations (I had my own supplements to the standard handouts). Every other instructor who I ever saw give these courses did the same. As for the other 70% that's "in the books", I would point out that the IDSM and the driver manual are not, as we say, tutorial in nature... I never had anyone go away complaining that "This was a waste of time, I could have gotten everything I needed by reading the books". Well, on second thought, I did have *one* such complaint from a driver student, out of a total of several hundred. Digital Educational Services certainly offers some VMS courses that are nothing but spoon-fed versions of the material in the grey (formerly orange, formerly blue) binders, but the internals and driver courses are most emphatically NOT among them!