Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!uunet!cos!hqda-ai!icus!lenny From: lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) Newsgroups: unix-pc.general Subject: Re: On flames and sources Message-ID: <417@icus.UUCP> Date: 10 Jul 88 22:59:55 GMT References: <408@icus.UUCP> <4675@killer.UUCP> <412@icus.UUCP> <383@manta.UUCP> Reply-To: lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) Organization: ICUS Software Systems, Islip, New York Lines: 69 In article <383@manta.UUCP> brant@manta.UUCP (Brant Cheikes) writes: |>In article <412@icus.UUCP> lenny@icus.UUCP (Lenny Tropiano) responds |>to an article by loci!clb: |>>*FLAME ON* |> |>REALLY, gentlemen. Must we sully the unix-pc groups with flamage? |>It's bad enough that it happens in "official USENET" groups. |> |>I don't think Mr. Brunow's comment ("delusions of grandeur?") was |>directed at Mr. Tropiano. Rather, he just expressed an opinion that |>such a low-volume stream as unix-pc.* doesn't need something as |>"grandiose" as a moderated sources group. I don't agree, and I don't |>think Lenny needed to turn around and defend his net-existence. |> Well, I disagree here. But leave it at that. I agree that unix-pc.* isn't the place for flamage. I just didn't like the way Mr. Brunow quoted my article out of context -- it made it look like I was "boasting", in reality I was just offering my assistance (as always). It could have been carried out privately, but he chose not to. |>Now, to the point: I would agree that unix-pc does not need more |>subgroups. I only see 10-20 articles per day in .general, the volume |>just doesn't justify increased "categorization." In fact, I can't |>even see the justification for unix-pc.uucp. I've seen maybe 10 |>postings there in the last year. |> I agree here. I retrospect the volume of news that the unix-pc.* gets might not require a reorganization like the one I posed. Most of you (those who replied) feel the same. Possibly let's get rid of .general and make it two groups, .software and .hardware? |>As far as a moderated sources group goes: I'm aware that unix-pc |>specific stuff is distributed over the net, archived here and there. |>But there doesn't seem to be anyone doing the job of keeping track of |>what's available in any organized way. I'd like to see something like |>what Salz and Allbery are doing, but for unix-pc-specific source code |>only. That is, periodic postings of lists of available software, with |>someone to contact about getting the stuff. I would prefer central |>organization and archiving to lists of n people to contact along with |>what they have. I don't think this is grandiose, and a moderated |>sources group would be useful. If Lenny's willing to do that, great. |>Lenny: can you handle keeping all the stuff online and available for |>anonymous uucp? |> If I would take the responsibily of being the unix-pc.sources moderator, I would have a little learning to do. Yes, I would allow anon-uucp pickups, and keep the sources online. There isn't a *big* volume of that either, so storage wouldn't be too much of a problem. I haven't gotten that many replies... most of them are split 1/2 and 1/2 about making unix-pc.sources moderated. |>We should be careful NOT to overlap unix-pc.sources with the other |>sources groups. That is, unix-pc.sources should be devoted to software |>specific to the unix-pc ONLY. Though it might be useful to |>occasionally pass along the sources.unix and sources.misc lists when |>they come out. |> Yes, this could very well be arranged. It would make sure that at least *one* person (the moderator) got *ALL* sources posted to unix-pc.sources. -Lenny -- Paper-net: Lenny Tropiano | @-net: lenny@icus.UUCP ICUS Software Systems | !-net: ...att \ PO Box 1 | boulder \ Islip Terrace, NY 11752 | talcott !icus!lenny Vocal-net: (516) 582-5525 [work] | pacbell / (516) 968-8576 [home] | sbcs / Telex-net: 154232428 ICUS | Another-net: attmail!icus!lenny