Xref: utzoo rec.audio:7248 sci.electronics:3300 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!cornell!rochester!kodak!ornitz From: ornitz@kodak.UUCP (barry ornitz) Newsgroups: rec.audio,sci.electronics Subject: Re: New poll Summary: Responses to date... Keywords: loudspeaker, speaker, bibliography, poll Message-ID: <1322@kodak.UUCP> Date: 14 Jul 88 02:10:28 GMT References: <1309@kodak.UUCP> <6198@aw.sei.cmu.edu> <2585@obiwan.mips.COM> <430@cb.ecn.purdue.edu> Reply-To: ornitz@kodak.UUCP (barry ornitz) Followup-To: rec.audio Organization: Eastman Kodak Co, Rochester, NY Lines: 47 In my original posting describing the speaker design bibliography, I wrote (somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but sadly often too true): ;-) I doubt if the various snake-oil designs popular on wreck.audio are included. I also doubt if more than three or four wreck.audio readers can even understand what nonlinear optimization and finite element analysis means. :-) Rich D'Ippolito took the challenge and asked seriously how many there really were out there: >Smileys or not, I'll take the wager. I am quite familiar with both. I >presume you include youself, so that makes two of us. My guess is that there >at least 8 more of us. Let's hear from you... Then John Clark edited out one of the critical smileys in my statement in his quote and replied without deleting the expletive: >F**k You Finally Mike Zenter replied: >How aout this! These techniques are widely used in various chemical and >industrial engineering applications. Chock up another mark for someone >who knows what these terms mean :-). Guess that makes four as far as I've >seen on this end. However, as mentioned by another taker, I'm not familiar >with these applied to speaker design. Unless I am misreading John's reply, I only count three, but then Mike may get his postings a day or so ahead of me. Actually to answer Rich's question, I can name several net readers immediately that can be added: Larry Lippman, Bob Zhome, jj at Bell Labs, and especially Dick Pierce who posted speaker design software to the net a few months back. Sadly there are too many others {to fan the flames - let me call them programmers :-) } who continue to believe the snake oil claims. For these folks, I have a bottle of oxygen-free, low-conductivity mercury for sale to the highest wreck.audio bidder.....and don't believe the stories about the Mad Hatter and his great component system! :-) 73 Barry ----------------- | ___ ________ | | | / / | | Dr. Barry L. Ornitz UUCP:...!rochester!kodak!ornitz | | / / | | Eastman Kodak Company | |< < K O D A K| | Eastman Chemicals Division Research Laboratories | | \ \ | | P. O. Box 1972 | |__\ \________| | Kingsport, TN 37662 615/229-4904 | | -----------------