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From: ornitz@kodak.UUCP (barry ornitz)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: New poll
Summary: Responses to date...
Keywords: loudspeaker, speaker, bibliography, poll
Message-ID: <1322@kodak.UUCP>
Date: 14 Jul 88 02:10:28 GMT
References: <1309@kodak.UUCP> <6198@aw.sei.cmu.edu> <2585@obiwan.mips.COM> <430@cb.ecn.purdue.edu>
Reply-To: ornitz@kodak.UUCP (barry ornitz)
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In my original posting describing the speaker design bibliography, I wrote
(somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but sadly often too true):

;-)  I doubt if the various snake-oil designs popular on wreck.audio are
     included.  I also doubt if more than three or four wreck.audio readers
     can even understand what nonlinear optimization and finite element
     analysis means.                                                     :-)

Rich D'Ippolito took the challenge and asked seriously how many there really
were out there:

>Smileys or not, I'll take the wager. I am quite familiar with both. I
>presume you include youself, so that makes two of us. My guess is that there
>at least 8 more of us. Let's hear from you...

Then John Clark edited out one of the critical smileys in my statement in his 
quote and replied without deleting the expletive:

>F**k You

Finally Mike Zenter replied:

>How aout this!  These techniques are widely used in various chemical and
>industrial engineering applications.  Chock up another mark for someone
>who knows what these terms mean :-).  Guess that makes four as far as I've
>seen on this end.  However, as mentioned by another taker, I'm not familiar
>with these applied to speaker design.

Unless I am misreading John's reply, I only count three, but then Mike  
may get his postings a day or so ahead of me.  Actually to answer Rich's
question, I can name several net readers immediately that can be added:
Larry Lippman, Bob Zhome, jj at Bell Labs, and especially Dick Pierce who
posted speaker design software to the net a few months back.  Sadly there
are too many others {to fan the flames - let me call them programmers :-) }
who continue to believe the snake oil claims.  For these folks, I have a
bottle of oxygen-free, low-conductivity mercury for sale to the highest
wreck.audio bidder.....and don't believe the stories about the Mad Hatter
and his great component system!   :-)
                                                73  Barry
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