Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!umix!metavax!oxtrap!hal!ncoast!allbery From: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: grep replacement Message-ID: <8210@ncoast.UUCP> Date: 4 Jul 88 14:18:50 GMT References: <7962@alice.UUCP> <5826@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> <8167@ncoast.UUCP> <1186@mcgill-vision.UUCP> Reply-To: allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) Followup-To: comp.unix.wizards Organization: Cleveland Public Access UN*X, Cleveland, Oh Lines: 50 As quoted from <1186@mcgill-vision.UUCP> by mouse@mcgill-vision.UUCP (der Mouse): +--------------- | In article <8167@ncoast.UUCP>, allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon S. Allbery) writes: | > As quoted from <5826@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu> by randy@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (Randy Orrison): | >> In article <7962@alice.UUCP> andrew@alice.UUCP writes: | [ various things, originally about context grep. But when replying, | ++Brandon (do you still use that name, Brandon?) says.... ] | > (My /dev/stdin complaint earlier was [...] aimed at the person who | > informed the entire Usenet that "hey, I posted a /dev/stdin driver | > source for 4.2BSD, so not a one of you has any reason not to be | > running it". In other words, the usual 4.xBSD-source elitism.) | | However, if you check back and look at the original postings on this | issue, the /dev/stdin point was first brought up as follows: | | > 22) support a filename of - to mean standard input. | > a unix without /dev/stdin is largely bogus but as a sop to the poor | > barstards having to work on BSD, gre will support - | > as stdin (at least for a while). | | (This over Andrew Hume's signature. He was explaining what features | gre would support.) | | With phrasing like that, I can hardly blame Chris for rising to the | defense of his driver. And note the "BSD" phrase: that's the context | in which Chris said there was no excuse for complaining about not | having /dev/stdin. And in that context, I agree with him. | | And there's no call for complaints about source elitism. My /dev/stdin | driver can be added to a binary distribution; surely Chris' can too. +--------------- At least part of the confusion here comes from the fact that Andrew's nasty comment (above) got here after Chris's comment; I thought he was just exhibiting the rather degrading attitude toward binary System V sites that I've had to put up with ever since I started reading this net. (C'mon, guys, if it didn't work I wouldn't be here!) +--------------- | work on BSD. There are two SysV-based machines here I can use whenever | I feel like it; I find it extremely painful to try to do anything on | them. But you generally don't find me talking about "poor bastards who | have to work on SysV", and you most certainly won't find me saying so | in my postings to the entire net.) +--------------- You would appear to be in the minority. -- Brandon S. Allbery, uunet!marque!ncoast!allbery DELPHI: ALLBERY For comp.sources.misc send mail to ncoast!sources-misc