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From: spandl@iraul1.ira.uka.de (Horst Spandl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Problem accessing "hidden" font characters.
Keywords: character-keyboard mapping
Message-ID: <617@iraun1.ira.uka.de>
Date: 13 Jul 88 12:37:42 GMT
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Reply-To: spandl@iraul1.ira.uka.de (Horst Spandl)
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, W.-Germany
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How can one access via keyboard all the characters defined within a font?
Keyboard DA does not show all the characters available.

We are having problems trying to get certain mathematical symbols
as defined within the System font "Symbol".  Eg. the symbol for
mathematical inclusion may only be accessed by typing Option-'N'
followed by a capital 'A' (giving a spanish 'A' with a '~' on top).
I only discovered this by coincidence.

It still is impossible for me to get the sign for logical AND using a
German keyboard, whereas logical OR may easily be obtained by Option-'i'.

I know that the symbols are defined within the font, because when I 
switch to US keyboard settings, both logical AND and OR can be found
typing Option-'<' and Option-'1' on the extended Mac-II keyboard.

We are using Mac-II and Mac-Plus machines, both with German keyboard
settings.  The problem appears on both machines.  The system version 
is 4.3(D1) with Finder 6.0(D1).

Does anybody on the net know a workaround?  Are there any utilities, 
DAs or the like in the public domain, which a) allow a user to see 
all the characters in a font and their keyboard aquivalent and 
b) allow a user to individually alter the character-keyboard mapping?  
How can I get a printout similar to what Keyboard DA shows me on the 
screen? (Doing eg. a screen-dump with Command-Shift-3 does not work)

Any help, pointers etc. welcome.


Horst Spandl			(spandl@ira.uka.de)
Karlsruhe University
West-Germany