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From: khai@amara.uucp (Sao Khai Mong)
Newsgroups: sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Free power from 'whispering wires' ??
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Date: 10 Jul 88 02:13:43 GMT
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In-reply-to: collinge@uvicctr.UUCP's message of 10 Jul 88 01:51:14 GMT


In article <449@uvicctr.UUCP> collinge@uvicctr.UUCP (Doug Collinge) writes:
>   Listen politely but do not accept the assurances of an scientist or engineer
>   who says something cannot be done.  They seem to be highly inclined to 

For that matter, also listen politely and do not accept the assurances
of faith-healers, levitators, diviners, etc, who make outrageous claims.

>   A wonderful example:  I was watching some show, 60 Minutes or somesuch,
>   listening to a hydrogeologist laughingly put down water diviners, saying
>   that "it just doesn't work" and so on as if he knew BECAUSE HE IS A 
>   HYDROGEOLOGIST.  Well, I know it works because I use it to find buried
>   pipes.  I don't know if it works for digging wells but I certainly would
>   not claim it is impossible.

I think that I saw that segment of 60 minutes.  If I remember correctly,
the old diviner never found any water, or wasn't any better than chance

>   Anyway,  in the case of the farmers stealing power from transmission lines,
>   I'd take the one guy's word that he'd seen it done over dozens of EEs
>   waving transformer equations proving that it can't be done.

So far, all claims in this forum has been hearsay, or more accurately,
second and nth hand accounts.  Surely, this is easily verifiable.  You
can work out the equations, like I did when was taking courses in EM,
or you can go and look for court records about farmers being sued.
But some people are quite happy to accept assurances from somebody the
have never ever met face-to-face.  Why don't you trust the transformer
equations for this instance anyway?  It is because of the accuracy of
these equations that you can sit at a computer and look at this
message at this very moment.
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