Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!ucdavis!uop!todd From: todd@uop.edu ( Dr. Nethack ) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Free power from 'whispering wires' ?? Summary: I have to say this again? Message-ID: <1606@uop.edu> Date: 12 Jul 88 23:27:09 GMT References: <3170@tekgen.BV.TEK.COM> <1310011@hpcilzb.HP.COM> <449@uvicctr.UUCP>Organization: The Shop Lines: 54 In article , khai@amara.uucp (Sao Khai Mong) prattles: > In article <449@uvicctr.UUCP> collinge@uvicctr.UUCP (Doug Collinge) writes: > > Listen politely but do not accept the assurances of an scientist or engineer > > who says something cannot be done. They seem to be highly inclined to > > For that matter, also listen politely and do not accept the assurances > of faith-healers, levitators, diviners, etc, who make outrageous claims. The problem is not what "branch" of reason, it is how the structure of the reason acts as a filter to inhibit the collection of data. In a good light this is called having a good crap detector. However, in general the things that we learn, also keep us from learning other things. > I think that I saw that segment of 60 minutes. If I remember correctly, > the old diviner never found any water, or wasn't any better than chance Look buccko, you did not reply to the rest of what he said.. he mentioned having done it himself to find old pipes.. I have also done this.. with my eyes closed and did find old pipes.. You may not believe in the term "water witch" but I certainly have found that there are changing resonances near metallic objects, or objects of differing conductivity to the surrounding environs. That is how a metal detector works.. metal detectors are just not passive. > So far, all claims in this forum has been hearsay, or more accurately, > second and nth hand accounts. > Surely, this is easily verifiable. You > can work out the equations, like I did when was taking courses in EM, > or you can go and look for court records about farmers being sued. > But some people are quite happy to accept assurances from somebody the > have never ever met face-to-face. Why don't you trust the transformer > equations for this instance anyway? It is because of the accuracy of > these equations that you can sit at a computer and look at this > message at this very moment. Why don't you trust the FACT that sometimes equations don't fully describe phenomenon? When was the last time you stood under some high voltage lines and waved a flourescent tube around? Did it light? Or was that not possible either? I hate to belabour the point. But the family I used to live with has family in the midwest.. THEY RUN THE LIGHTS IN THE BARN THIS WAY!! The father in the family I used to live with was an electronics hack in the Navy.. not that he is a genius. But he did inspect the "circuit", and it was NOT plugged into a wall outlet somewhere. Do I have to make it more clear than this?? All formulae aside, this guy would not bullshit me, he was amazed himself. And I commented that I had heard stuff like this before. Now, your transformer equations work as well.. but do you really think we know everything yet?