Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!rutgers!njin!sommers From: sommers@njin.rutgers.edu (Mamaliz @ The Soup Kitchen) Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: vi vs emacs in a student enviro Message-ID:Date: 11 Jul 88 04:57:07 GMT References: <370@umn-d-ub.D.UMN.EDU> <47800011@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> <1045@ficc.UUCP> Organization: The NJ Home for Perverted Hackers Lines: 21 You're going to have to do some customization, no matter what; it sounds like you don't mind that but would rather avoid redesigning the entire command key mapping. There are vi emulators for every programmable Emacs, but they do emulate vi, so the command set is just as bad (or good). The most complete I've seen is viplus from UniPress, but it's just plain old Emacs underneath; you better not expect to use it the same way you use vi (edit, exit the editor, compile, edit, etc.). It's best to start it and stay in it. If you don't want to work that way, you'll hate it, but if you take the time to get used to it, you spend much less time thrashing. In most Emaces I've seen, ESC-0 through ESC-9 already do build the prefix argument. What don't you like about the way Emacs updates the screen (which Emacs, btw)? Some are better than others. Sometimes you have to tweak the termcap entry for Emacs to work well. liz sommers@njin.rutgers.edu