Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!labrea!polya!kaufman From: kaufman@polya.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Yawn ! Not more Emacs discussion... Message-ID: <3247@polya.Stanford.EDU> Date: 14 Jul 88 16:04:10 GMT References: <4197@csvax.liv.ac.uk> Reply-To: kaufman@polya.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman) Organization: Stanford University Lines: 17 In article <4197@csvax.liv.ac.uk> sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk writes: >I think the designers of Emacs are the ones who are brain-damaged. >Leaving aside the fact that their editor is one big joke to those who >like using PROPER editors, XON-XOFF is now the de facto standard for >flow control and any terminal (or emulator) not supporting XON-XOFF >should NOT be used. I think the Eflamers have lost sight of the fact that Emacs is an outgrowth of a series of editors originally written at MIT and Stanford, for systems that had large keyboards with REAL Control- and Meta- keys, that did not require multiple keystroke sequences to send (the characters were 10-bits wide -- the high three bits were shift-control-meta). Emacs was an attempt to provide the same functionality on brain-damaged i/o devices. REAL terminals have direct video connections and WIDE keyboard paths. All the rest is an approximation. Marc Kaufman (kaufman@polya.stanford.edu)