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From: khai@amara.uucp (Sao Khai Mong)
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Subject: Re: Free power from 'whispering wires' ??
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Date: 13 Jul 88 14:16:32 GMT
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In-reply-to: todd@uop.edu's message of 12 Jul 88 23:27:09 GMT


In article <1606@uop.edu> todd@uop.edu ( Dr. Nethack ) writes:

>   Look buccko, you did not reply to the rest of what he said.. he
> mentioned having done it himself to find old pipes.. I have also done
> this.. with my eyes closed and did find old pipes.. You may not
> believe in the term "water witch" but I certainly have found that
> there are changing resonances near metallic objects, or objects of
> differing conductivity to the surrounding environs.
> That is how a metal detector works.. metal detectors are just not passive.

Boy, this is getting to be like that levitation argument on sci.misc.
I do not know the conditions under which you found the old pipes, and
cannot really test you under controlled conditions, so its no use 
arguing.  But can you please define exactly what you mean by 
"changing resonances"?   Yes, you are right about metal dectectors,
however are you claiming that the operation of divining rods (those
wishbone birch twigs or whatever) operate on the same principle?

>   I hate to belabour the point.  But the family I used to live with
> has family in the midwest.. THEY RUN THE LIGHTS IN THE BARN THIS WAY!!

Can you provide a more accurate description of how they operated the
thing?  Honestly, I am curious, to find out where my training went
wrong.  How long was the pick coil?  How many loops did it have?
How big an area did it cover?

>   The father in the family I used to live with was an electronics
> hack in the Navy.. not that he is a genius.  But he did inspect the
> "circuit", and it was NOT plugged into a wall outlet somewhere.  Do I
> have to make it more clear than this??  All formulae aside, this guy
> would not bullshit me, he was amazed himself.  And I commented that I
> had heard stuff like this before.

If my brother was an electronic technician, wouldn't I have loved to
pull off an April fool's joke on him. 

> Why don't you trust the FACT that sometimes equations don't fully
> describe phenomenon?  When was the last time you stood under some high
> voltage lines and waved a flourescent tube around?  Did it light?  Or
> was that not possible either?

Well, I do admit that equations sometimes don't full describe certain
things.  For instance, the equations might say that you can draw 10 mW
by inductance air coupling, when in fact you can draw 20 mW.  But
surely you jest when you say you can actually draw 1000 W.

I am off on vacation for two weeks; my site keeps sci.misc only 7
days, so E-mail me about the layout of the coils.
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