Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!mailrus!cornell!batcomputer!cloos From: cloos@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (James H. Cloos Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: What a joke Emacs is (CTRL-Q/S controversy) Message-ID: <5427@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Date: 8 Jul 88 07:09:32 GMT References: <3601@csvax.liv.ac.uk> <23571@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA> <3918@csvax.liv.ac.uk> Reply-To: cloos@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (James H. Cloos Jr.) Organization: Cornell Computer Services, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 Lines: 30 In article <3918@csvax.liv.ac.uk> sqrkl@csvax.liv.ac.uk writes: |In article <23571@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA>, | mkhaw@teknowledge-vaxc.ARPA (Mike Khaw) writes: |> |> How fast does it (Maculator) go WITHOUT xon/xoff? Emacs uses ^S for |> "incremental search", and ^Q for "quote" (to allow you to insert control |> chars into your buffer). |> |I find it amazing that an editor (does Emacs deserve such an accolade ?) |in these so-called modern times actually uses CTRL-Q and CTRL-S as commands. |This has me dumbfounded (for a change !) and it serves anyone right who |uses Emacs. All minis/mainframes I know of (no doubt there are exceptions) |support XON/XOFF as a matter of course and you WOULD be foolish to run a |terminal emulator at high speeds without XON/XOFF active. Furthermore, the thing everybody seems to be missing is that it is trivial to remap the functions that are at ^Q and ^S to other keys. ^\, ^`, and ^/ are some of the otherwise unbound keys that can be used to replace ^Q and ^S. Most of the Emacsen here at Cornell have default mapings that take into consideration the fact that ^Q and ^S are unavailable. The problem is not with Emacsen, but rahter with users/compilers who don't use the features of Emacsen such as user definable key bindings and compilation-time defineable default key bindings. -JimC -- batcomputer!cloos@cornell.UUCP |James H. Cloos, Jr.|#includecloos@batcomputer.tn.cornell.EDU|B7 Upson, Cornell U|#include cloos@tcgould.tn.cornell.EDU |Ithaca, NY 14853 |"Entropy isn't what cloos@crnlthry.BITNET | +1 607 272 4519 | it used to be."