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From: webber@aramis.rutgers.edu (Bob Webber)
Newsgroups: news.groups,news.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Comp.women vs. Comp.society.women
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Date: 8 Jul 88 06:35:23 GMT
References: <11663@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <238@pigs.UUCP>
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In article <238@pigs.UUCP>, haugj@pigs.UUCP (Joe Bob Willie) writes:
< In article <11663@agate.BERKELEY.EDU<, skyler@violet.berkeley.edu writes:
< |...
< | If people have comments about the group, or if people would like to submit
< | something, or if people are not getting the group and would like it mailed
< | to them, please contact me at:
< | comp-women-request@cs.purdue.edu
< 
< This was originally posted in news.sysadmin, but it may bear saying
< here.
< 
< DON'T MAIL NEWSGROUPS.  If you aren't getting the group, then you need
< to get a newsfeed.  We can't start having newsgroups mailed all over
< the network.  

This overlooks two things:

   1)  A great many newsgroups are regularly mailed all over the net.
       a) All postings to moderators are mailed in.
       b) Many newsgroups are converted mailing lists.

   2)  A user can request and recieve a mailed news group whereas it
       takes a news administrator to set up the connections for a news
       feed.  Similarly, any user can forward a group via mail (all that
       is necessary is that the group appears on their machine, it is
       not necessary for them to be moderator), whereas only a news 
       administrator at another site can give a link.

The usage of news groups to cut down on bulk mail only makes sense if
all the groups get carried.  Whenever someone stops carrying a group,
they are simply setting up a situation where eventually someone will
figure out how to get around it via mail.  

< Also, is anyone archiving the group?

Actually, the last mention I saw of that was a note from skyler saying that
she specifically wasn't.  So far there has only been one message worth
archiving (a reference on a book), but you never know -- something interesting
might yet appear there.

------ BOB (webber@athos.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!athos.rutgers.edu!webber)