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From: eos!eugene@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Eugene Miya)
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Subject: Re: Women Wizards?
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Date: 7 Jul 88 16:33:48 GMT
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It appears my recommendation about ASK has not been forwarded.

Marcia raises an interesting questions about women wizards.
This is a question I asked some years ago.  It is my opinion
we do now have them, only they are widely separated.  More will come
with time.

Maybe a decade ago it was rare to find women in computing.  Women then
had to be careful when associating with keyboards, this I learned while
working at JPL.  I met some of the most technically compentent women
there as well as some suprising incompetent men [still there].  They had
to be careful with their associations: with men [note I had no "interest"
in any of them, but two were bosses], equipment, organizations, etc.

But several summers ago, I started being invited to dinner by different
groups of summer students [Join us!], Sure!  That stigma was gone.
We did talk about women hackers during some of those dinners, and we all
concluded that they did not fit the stereotype of man hackers as
unclean, etc.  So we should not look for a particularly similar
physical type.  Remember that wizards, hackers, and "other strange
personalities" aren't confinded to computers [See Atlanta article on Erdos].

Patience.

Another gross generalization from

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