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From: spencer@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Randy Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: VT100 2.7 questions???
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Date: 15 Dec 87 05:35:20 GMT
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In article <138@obi-wan> barsh@stsci.EDU (John Barshinger) writes:
>in article <796@hubcap.UUCP>, rchampe@hubcap.UUCP (Richard Champeaux) says:
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><< 		SCREEN TO BACK - pulls the workbench screen in front of
> 
>< The unenhanced versions could do this already.  Using the LAMIGA M and the
>< LAMIGA N keys, you can switch between the workbench screen and the vt100 
>
>Thanx for the info, I never claimed to know it all.  Since I didn't
>know this, I thought that removing the screen depth gadgets would cause
>a feature to be lost.  This does keep this option available for those

Wait just a cotton picking minute!  I don't want anyone getting out of
here expecting the user to use the Amiga-M and the Amiga-N keys to send 
their screen to the back.  There is only one way to do it, and that is to
have depth-arrangement gadgets, if you can't handle that than I might
allow you to get away with a menu item that calls ScreenToBack(), but
don't you dare rely on WorkBenchToFront(), Don't you Dare.

Where does that leave Joe User??  Well, he runs my program with its
nice Depth Arrangement Gadgets (here after referred to as DAGs)(years from
now, remember *I* coined that phrase), anyway, he (ok, maybe it's a she,
but generally it's a he, ofcourse I would be alot happier if it was a she), 
ok, let me start again:

Where does that leave Joe User?  I'll tell you, she runs my program, 
sends it behind WorkBench with the DAGs that I provided, then she runs
your program, and then uses the Amiga-N to bring the WorkBench to the
front.  Now she want to get to my program.  Well, ummm... How 'bout hitting
the WorkBench DAG, and send that to back.  Well, that reveals your program,
so she hits Amiga-N to get WB back, and then Amiga-M to send it to the back,
and there is your stupid program completely covering mine!!!!

Alright, so you can't deal with having a TitleBar, but you don't want
a dorky program?  I tell you what to do, put in "Toggle Title Bar" as a
menu item.  There is that title bar, but when the user needs back his
top row, toggle it off.  That simple, want some example code?  Let me know.
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