Xref: utzoo comp.unix.microport:1001 comp.unix.xenix:2658 comp.windows.x:4191 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!belltec!dar From: dar@belltec.UUCP (Dimitri Rotow) Newsgroups: comp.unix.microport,comp.unix.xenix,comp.windows.x Subject: Re: X-windows under System V/386 Summary: More on cheap X's (clarification) Keywords: ega, vga, System V, cheap, embedded base Message-ID: <241@belltec.UUCP> Date: 14 Jul 88 17:56:16 GMT References: <524@pcrat.UUCP> <240@belltec.UUCP> <526@pcrat.UUCP> Organization: Bell Technologies, Fremont, CA Lines: 48 In article <526@pcrat.UUCP>, rick@pcrat.UUCP (Rick Richardson) writes: > In article <240@belltec.UUCP> dar@belltec.UUCP (Dimitri Rotow) writes: > >Release 3.1 for standard System V/386 (Intel, AT&T, ISC, Bell Tech, etc) > >includes X (v 10.4) support for Hercules Monographic clones as well as > >a variety of standard hi-res displays. All of the 3.2 / X11 stuff supports > >VGA as well, so you'll be able to run Open Look as you see fit on nice cheap > >cards as well as the razzle-dazzle stuff. > > > >- Dimitri Rotow, Bell Technologies > > What does this mean? Is your X v10.4 or v11? What software do you > mean by "Release 3.1" and "3.2"? What is orderable? > UNIX releases are named from the Intel/AT&T distribution. The current distribution in common release is UNIX System V Release 3.0. This is supported with X version 10.4. We give X away free with our Blit hi-res card. If you want it for the Herc or other cards on Release 3.0, you get to pay an OEM fee. If you just buy the Blit, you get X free for use with System V or Interactive 386/ix; when SCO releases their '386 product with streams, we will ship X for SCO as well ... the product currently runs just fine with their pre-release Xenix '386 with streams. Release 3.1 is now out and available to developers on a two-week lead time from ordering. Release 3.1 includes X version 10.4 with built-in support for Herc, our Blit card, the Univision and Matrox cards. X is free, except that the media charge in 3.1 went up to cover the cost of the extra 10 floppies required for X. Release 3.1 I think is of primary interest to developers, since the documentation for it must be ordered direct from AT&T at a cost of about $200. Release 3.2 will go into Beta in August. AT&T and Intel have sponsored a port of X 11 which will be associated with 3.2. This Intel/AT&T port supports our Blit, the Herc, VGA and as many other '786 based cards (Univision, etc) as Intel and we can cram into the release. It is too early to tell how much X will cost when purchased under the AT&T license; however, since AT&T's price on UNIX for Release 3.2 will go up dramatically it is a safe bet that X will have some AT&T royalty fee attached. All of our products run right now with thhe AT&T releases of 3.1 and 3.2 for their own 6386 systems. It is unclear what path Interactive will take with 386/ix, so we cannot guarantee that X will run with their 3.1 or 3.2 version of 386/ix instantly; we will track 386/ix as rapidly as we can. I've posted this to the net since so many e mail messages have come in direct asking the same question.