Xref: utzoo comp.sources.wanted:4537 comp.unix.questions:8182 Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!mailrus!ames!pacbell!pbhya!whh From: whh@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) Newsgroups: comp.sources.wanted,comp.unix.questions Subject: Re: Unix editors Message-ID: <16534@pbhya.PacBell.COM> Date: 12 Jul 88 20:45:05 GMT References: <272@jackson.UUCP> <574@splut.UUCP> Organization: Pacific * Bell, Oakland, CA Lines: 39 In article <574@splut.UUCP>, jay@splut.UUCP (Jay "you ignorant splut!" Maynard) writes: > In article <272@jackson.UUCP> hboswell@jackson.UUCP (Harry Boswell) writes: > >Does anyone know of an editor available for unix that emulates the > >ISPF/PDF editor of IBM mainframe-environment fame? We connect to > >an MVS system and most programmers I can hire have worked only in that > >environment (no unix here in the deepest South). Vi tends to be a shock > >to them. > > Me too! > I spend all day, every day, in front of ISPF/PDF. Coming home to another > editor is disconcerting, to say the least. I've gotten MicroEMACS, which > is a distinct improvement over vi, but having the same thing on Unix as > I use at work would be very nice. > ...Jay > I, too, spend all day in front of the ISPF editor. It's ghastly. Unfortunately there is not way (that I know of) to put a decent editor on a block-transfer terminal, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. If your new programmers can't learn new editors--you need a better grade of programmer. Before you write me off as some kid that learned vi in school and resents anything else, let me note that when I started programming you had to worry about the difference between an 024 keypunch and an 026. I was a student at Berkeley before UNIX existed. I currently have to keep track of 4 TSO, 1 VM, and 3 UNIX accounts--and that's just at work. So what's a couple of different editors among friends? --Hal ========================================================================= Hal Heydt | "Hafnium plus Holmium is Analyst, Pacific*Bell | one-point-five, I think." 415-645-7708 | --Dr. Jane Robinson {att,bellcore,sun,ames,pyramid}!pacbell!pbhya!whh