Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!lll-tis!helios.ee.lbl.gov!pasteur!ucbvax!pro-sol.cts.COM!mdavis From: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.COM (Morgan Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: AMACS, Misc... Message-ID: <8806222136.AA00356@crash.cts.com> Date: 22 Jun 88 19:51:48 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis@nosc.mil Organization: The Internet Lines: 32 Sean Kamath laments at the price of AMACS, while getting it all wrong in the process. AMACS sells for $75, but it's worth about $279. It is a VERY accurate implementation of EMACS/Jove/GNU/whatever. It is ProDOS based, fast, and extremely powerful. Sean Kamath laments at the speed of the IIGS (which he obviously doesn't own). Using a standard 20mb hard disk, I can boot into ProDOS 16 in about 9 seconds (that includes booting PRODOS, P16, SYSTEM.SETUP stuff, Guy Rice's SYSBEEP with a 53-block digitized sampling of the roadrunner, David Lyons's Nifty-List CDA with the LARGE data file, and my own START program which invokes APW for me down in a subdirectory). Nine-point-six seconds is all: from Control-Apple-RESET until my START program runs. Many wonderful things are in store for GS/OS, which is the official name for ProDOS 16 v2.0. Apple picked a different name because GS/OS is a whole new beast, a complete rewrite. I'll be the first to stand in line for a IIGS speed-up card, but things are a bizillion times slower, sluggish, harder to work on, and downright painful back in the IIe and IIc world. And, by the way, I am less impressed by the hacker types who are so proud of the fact that they wrote some amazing code using only crufty tools (i.e. the mini-assembler, or Big Mac), than I am when I see something very complex performed with both grace and elegance. --Morgan Davis UUCP: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis ProLine: mdavis@pro-sol ARPANet: crash!pnet01!pro-sol!mdavis@nosc.mil InterNet: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com