Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!pyramid!vsi1!lmb
From: lmb@vsi1.UUCP (Larry Blair)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: newgroup/rmgroup wars
Message-ID: <719@vsi1.UUCP>
Date: 25 Jun 88 00:41:58 GMT
Organization: VICOM Systems Inc., San Jose, CA
Lines: 85

I've received four control messages creating or deleting comp.women today.
I understand (sort of) why the news software allows any jerk with root
privilege to send these out, but wouldn't it be a great improvement if
the backbones didn't pass them on without at least being eyeballed?  The
same could be said for "sendsys"!  I know this means more work for the
administrators at the backbones, but, hey, we're not talking about very
many true newgroups/rmgroups.

As far as the current situation is concerned, aren't these postings an abuse?
Wouldn't sanctions be appropriate for these yahoos?  If I were roy@phri (who
feeds bc-cis, the offender in the last message), I'd at least threaten them.

Here are the messages.  Judge for yourself.

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|Path: vsi1!ubvax!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!ukc!stl!news
|From: news@stl.stc.co.uk (News super user c/o dww)
|Newsgroups: comp.women
|Subject: newgroup comp.women
|Message-ID: <766@acer.stl.stc.co.uk>
|Date: 23 Jun 88 00:17:45 GMT
|Control: newgroup comp.women
|Lines: 10
|Approved: news@stl.stc.co.uk
|
|
|Group created following result of vote, showing clear demand for this 
|group, with this name.   This way we can start using it in Europe; 
|hopefully the rest of the world will be connected once uunet and the 
|US part of the backbone decide what to do.
|
|This group is not moderated at this time, but should be made so when the
|backbone adds its moderator, Trish Skyler, to the moderators list.
|
|David Wright, dww@stl.stc.co.uk    (stl news administrator)
|---------
|Path: vsi1!ubvax!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu!bob
|From: bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield)
|Newsgroups: comp.women.ctl
|Subject: rmgroup comp.women
|Message-ID: <16202@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>
|Date: 23 Jun 88 20:56:47 GMT
|Control: rmgroup comp.women
|Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
|Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Computer & Information Science
|Lines: 6
|Approved: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
|References:
|
|This group has existed as comp.society.women (moderated) since 17 Jun
|1988.  Please wait patiently until it propagates to you.
|-=-
| Bob Sutterfield, Department of Computer and Information Science
| The Ohio State University; 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277
| bob@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!{att,pyramid,killer}!cis.ohio-state.edu!bob
|-----------
|Path: vsi1!ubvax!ames!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu!bob
|From: bob@allosaur.cis.ohio-state.edu (Bob Sutterfield)
|Newsgroups: comp.women.ctl
|Subject: rmgroup comp.women
|Message-ID: <16304@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>
|Date: 24 Jun 88 18:56:37 GMT
|Control: rmgroup comp.women
|Sender: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
|Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Computer & Information Science
|Lines: 6
|Approved: news@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
|
|Group already exists as comp.society.women, as per request of the
|moderator of the group.  comp.women is redundant and unmoderated.
|-=-
| Bob Sutterfield, Department of Computer and Information Science
| The Ohio State University; 2036 Neil Ave. Columbus OH USA 43210-1277
| bob@cis.ohio-state.edu or ...!{att,pyramid,killer}!cis.ohio-state.edu!bob
|---------------
|Path: vsi1!ubvax!ames!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!phri!bc-cis!berto
|From: berto@bc-cis.UUCP ( Operations)
|Newsgroups: comp.women.ctl
|Subject: newgroup comp.women
|Message-ID: <1254@bc-cis.UUCP>
|Date: 24 Jun 88 02:52:13 GMT
|Control: newgroup comp.women
|Distribution: usa
|Organization: Brooklyn College of CUNY, NY
|Lines: 0
|Approved: berto@bc-cis.UUCP