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From: jerry@oliveb.olivetti.com (Jerry Aguirre)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Cut off AT&T? (Was: The death of USENET)
Message-ID: <24191@oliveb.olivetti.com>
Date: 22 Jun 88 19:27:05 GMT
References: <651@scovert.sco.COM> <30.UUL1.3#935@aocgl.UUCP> <2761@ttrdc.UUCP>
Reply-To: jerry@oliveb.UUCP (Jerry Aguirre)
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca
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In article <2761@ttrdc.UUCP> levy@ttrdc.UUCP (Daniel R. Levy) writes:
>The ONLY THING that AT&T is planning to stop carrying, as best as I have heard
>(there has been traffic on internal AT&T groups about this too) is MAIL
>BETWEEN TWO NON-AT&T SITES.  NETNEWS WILL CONTINUE TO BE CARRIED.  The
>analogous thing for the net to do would be to decline to carry AT&T's
>mail BETWEEN TWO AT&T SITES.  (AT&T doesn't, and shouldn't, generate
>site-to-site mail with such routings anyhow.)  So think about it a while
>before you get sore and start planning "revenge."

No, not quite the same.  Notice the philosophy.  There is AT&T and then
there is "the rest of the world".  Sorry, there are other companies in
the world, all of them different and many of them in competition with
each other.

The real analogous thing is for me to say that I won't forward mail
between two non OLIVETTI sites.  That would include mail from:

		AT&T->OLIVETTI->other_company

I mean why should I pay the phone company for a UUCP call to
"other_company" to deliver mail for someone else?  In the case of AT&T
it is doubly worse because I may be paying them for the privilige of
delivering their mail.  (Such a deal!)

Now because companies, other than AT&T, are willing to forward my mail
to sites that I don't have a direct connection to then I am willing to
do the same for them.

Now if what was actually meant was forwarding third party mail over AT&T
internal links then that is much more reasonable.  Someone at AT&T
really should clarify this.

The other thing to notice is the choice of locations for the three
(count em three!) AT&T gateways.  AT&T has offices all over the world,
but all three gateways are located in the north east quarter of the USA!
My nearest AT&T hub is >1800 miles away.  I know you guys think Chicago
is in the West but how about taking a look at a map some time.