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From: loverso@encore.UUCP (John Robert LoVerso)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Re: Looking for a full-featured terminal
Message-ID: <3249@encore.UUCP>
Date: 27 Jun 88 20:29:48 GMT
References: <758@lakesys.UUCP>
Reply-To: loverso@encore.UUCP (John Robert LoVerso)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp, Marlboro, MA
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In article <758@lakesys.UUCP> craig@lakesys.UUCP (Craig Stodolenak) writes:
> I've looked at the product lines of WYSE and TeleVideo, and being a "gadget
> freak", love the WY-60 and TVI-965.

(I've said it before, and I'll say it again...)

The Wyse WY60 is certainly a feature filled terminal, but it still
lacks the most important thing: speed.  It cannot keep up with 19200
baud.  Last week at USENIX I got to play with a few of these in the
vendor show.  My best estimate was that the WY60 flow controls itself
to an effective 1400cps when set to do 19200.  It kept up just fine at
9600 baud.  I didn't try it at higher bauds, but I did try this using a
variety of host machines.  My WY75 handles 19200 just fine, and at
38400 it gets an effect 2500cps.  I was using the WY60 in both native
and WY75 emulation modes.  Other than the speed issue, I find the WY60
to be a terminal with all the right features for me (soft keys,
keyboard layout, etc).

The newer Televideos are also nice, but the lastest models I've seen
(905, 955) still inflict the user with magic cookie characters for
screen attributes.  I can't believe that they add all that ugliness
just to save a few $$ on static rams.  I won't ever buy (another)
Televideo as long as they use magic cookies.

My greatest wish is that terminal manufacturers will quit adding silly
features like calucator emulators and instead make a serious effort to
produce terminals that can handle 19.2Kb w/o flow control and forever
rid us of magic cookies!

John R LoVerso
Encore Computer Corp
encore!loverso, loverso@multimax.arpa