Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!Michael_mkahl_Kahl From: Michael_mkahl_Kahl@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer Subject: Re: LSC 3.0 Message-ID: <6894@cup.portal.com> Date: 26 Jun 88 17:46:49 GMT References: <327@ncar.ucar.edu> <730034@hpcilzb.HP.COM> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 37 XPortal-User-Id: 1.1001.4169 I have seen several messages on the net deploring that (1) LSC 3.0's debugger requires 2 megabytes, and (2) upgrading to LSC 3.0 will set you back $69 if you bought LSC before 2/1/88. I want to say that I certainly sympathize with those of you who are upset about the debugger's memory requirements. I'm not very happy about it either, given how hard (and expensive) it is to get memory these days. However, I'd like to point out that your investment in memory buys you a *modeless* debugger. While stopped at a breakpoint, you not only have full access to LSC itself, but you can also bring up DA's or run other applications. This important feature, as well as the memory requirement, comes of being MultiFinder-based. I'd also like to point out that when the decision was made to go with this architecture for the debugger, no one had any idea there was going to be a memory shortage! Quite the opposite, in fact. Memory prices were coming down, and there was reason to believe that by now Apple would be shipping machines with 2 meg standard. So no, we're not happy about the 2 meg requirement. It hurts us at least as badly as it hurts you. But the current situation won't last forever, and in the meantime there are other good reasons to upgrade to 3.0. On the other hand, I am surprised that anyone is upset about paying $69 for the upgrade. Do you realize that in a little over two years we have published three major and several minor versions of LSC, and that until now WE HAVE NEVER CHARGED FOR AN UPGRADE! Nonetheless, in this time I have continued to draw a salary. Believe me, we are not out to gouge our customers. We are in business, however. So if you're unhappy about the 2 meg requirement for the debugger, fine. I understand. If you feel the product is not for you, don't buy it. I'll understand. But don't accuse us of overcharging. That's absurd. (If I sound a little annoyed, I guess it's because I am.) -- Michael Kahl, Symantec