Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!scs!spl1!laidbak!att!pacbell!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!hplabs!hplabsz!davis From: davis@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Jim Davis) Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm Subject: Re: Elm, the newsgroup from hell Message-ID: <2019@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 1 Jun 88 22:30:15 GMT Article-I.D.: hplabsz.2019 References: <1022@bellboy.UUCP> <2998@s.cc.purdue.edu> <1029@bellboy.UUCP> Reply-To: davis@hplabs.hp.com (Jim Davis) Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Lines: 26 Greg Hackney hack@bellboy.UUCP writes: gh> In my opinion, the author dropped out of the race gh> without passing the baton. The baton was passed. Unfortunately the receiver seems to have dropped it. Knowing many of the politics and personalities that motivated Dave to drop his support for this public domain Elm but not feeling free to comment too extensively let me just say: There exists interest in continued public existance of Elm. Dave has not been a "jack in the box" poping up and down in his support. He was there continuously until he "passed on the baton". Typically he is still reading these very discussions and commenting (could this be why you think he is poping up and down?), but cannot greatly support public domain Elm at this time. I have noticed at least one offer of Elm 2.0 gamma on the net. I should point out that this source has "leaked" and is probably well worth scarfing up. (Dave did not leak it, nor did I.) 2.0 gamma has some bugs, but fewer than 1.7b (personal opinion). [IPOF: I still run 2.0 gamma because it worked a bit better for me that its successors.] -- Jim Davis [Here come the flames.]