Xref: utzoo news.admin:2432 news.config:633 misc.legal:4974 Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!pyramid!fmsrl7!mibte!uisc1!root From: root@uisc1.UUCP (Super user) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.config,misc.legal Subject: Re: INDISCRIMINANT POSTING BY JJ@CUP.PORTAL.COM Summary: JJ & Mail fraud Message-ID: <34@uisc1.UUCP> Date: 3 Jun 88 09:38:25 GMT References: <6081@cup.portal.com> <25292@bbn.COM> Distribution: usa Organization: Unicorn Information Systems Corp, Detroit, MI, USA Lines: 35 In article <25292@bbn.COM>, mesard@bbn.com.UUCP writes: > > So if JJ *really* is a college student and *really* is in financial > straits, then he didn't break any laws. Otherwise, it's mail fraud. > Right? IF JJ specifically stated that he would use the money for his college education, and ONLY for his college education, and it's fraud ONLY if he had the intent not to do what he specifically stated at the time he stated it AND that you can prove it (not only the action or lack thereof, but also the intent). I don't have the original beg-letter handy; if you think it's important enough, go for it. > Now ask yourself, folks: What do you think the odds are that either of > the those assertions is true? Sorry, but juries do not convict based on mathematical odds, they convict on proof and evidence. But let me throw one small monkey wrench into your mathematical odds. All JJ has to do to meet those requirements is to go down to his local community college and enroll in one class. He is then a student. In fact, he could enroll in a mail-order college to meet the requirements. As for being in financial straights, I'd hate for you to prove that someone is or is not in financial straights. Just what criterion to you use? In comparison to David Rockefeller I was, am, and will always be in financial straights. I don't think that what JJ did was right (morally). Most probably it was a scam, especially if the identity that I just read is really his. But I find the viciousness and the willingness to put this guy away for life, preferably without parole, which I see on this net rather unfortunate. Other than post a few messages, to all of which you have a choice to "Just say no," what has this guy ever done to you? If you just ignored his messages and didn't send any money, he would just go away.