Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!mandrill!gatech!mcnc!ecsvax!gas From: gas@ecsvax.UUCP (Guerry A. Semones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: ALL CHARGECARD(memory mang.) Summary: That ain't neccesarily the case...386 software and the ALL... Message-ID: <5165@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: 1 Jun 88 17:47:16 GMT References: <36300022@iuvax> <4249@killer.UUCP> Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service Lines: 64 In article <4249@killer.UUCP>, wnp@killer.UUCP (Wolf Paul) writes: > In article <36300022@iuvax> beckman@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu writes: > >There is a new prduct from the makers of DESQVIEW that is supposed to > >solve all of the MS-DOS -- IBM memory kludges and problem. I have > >read the advertisement pamplet, and the product, called ALL > >CHARGECARD, connects to your 80286 CPU and is a complete memory > >manager, and even lets you run '386 stuff. It claims that no matter > > This would imply that a '386 is nothing more than a faster '286 with > a memory manager added on. Is that really true? Hard to believe! > > Is there someone out there who can authoritatively comment on this > particular question? > > If this were true I could go out and buy the $99 386 UNIX from Bell Tech > and run it on my AT clone with an "ALL CHARGECARD" -- that would be > too good to be true! The ALL ChargeCard does not claim to allow a '286 to run '386 based software. In the 5-7 pages of pamphlets and stuff I have on the product, it never mentions the '386 at all. Think of the ALL card as a memory manager for the '286 that does the following: 1. Allows you to expand the available memory for DOS from 640k to a max of 960k. According to the specs, this 960k area is fully accessible to all DOS programs as if they were running in 640k. This in and of itself might justify buying the card. 2. The ALL card also "unifies" all On-system memory. Desqview LOVES to have plenty of Expanded memory available, but some of us only have EXTENDED memory. The ALL card will take all available memory (base, extended, and expanded) and make it into EMS and EEMS memory specs. That would allow some of us to get more out of out our extended memory than ramdisks and disk caches. Note that the ALL ChargeCard is NOT made by DESQVIEW, but by the following: ALL Computers Inc. 21 St Clair Ave. E., STE. 203 Toronto, Ontario, Canada M4T 1L9 (416) 960-0111 The price of the card runs from $300 to $500 depending on your system's type of '286 processor. Those '286 chips not of the pin grid array type need a special cable adapter. The card does not require a slot but is a credit card sized wafer that is mounted between the mother board and the '286 chip itself. There are a couple of software drivers that must be installed in your config.sys to get access to the card's powers. There appears to be an 8088 based version of the card but I'm not familiar with it. Before anyone flames me for incorrect information, please note that I DO NOT OWN this product, have NEVER seen it in person, but have been looking over the specs and have info about it only by pamphlets sent to me by ALL Computers. Desqview IS recommending this product and for all I know, have stock in the company named above. Anyone else? -- Guerry A. Semones BITNET: drogo@tucc.BITNET Information Services USENET: gas@ecsvax.UUCP Duke University My views are despairingly mine only. Talent Identification Program "We ain't gifted, we just work here."