Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!att!mtunx!rutgers!mailrus!ames!amdahl!oliveb!sun!pixar!unicom!jonson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU From: pixar!unicom!jonson@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Mary D Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.text.desktop Subject: Re: Publish! Page Makeover Message-ID: <55545@sun.uucp> Date: 7 Jun 88 01:20:33 GMT Sender: news@sun.uucp Distribution: comp Lines: 37 Approved: desktop-request%plaid@sun.com Sorry no controversy here, Chuq--I am in complete agreement with you. While the overall makeover makes the magazine a lot more readable-- the over reliance on San Francisco cute and an overabundance of Univers type makes me think that they may have swung the pendulum far to the opposite side. Why, oh why is the mid range so hard to find? I have spent the last four years at the cutting edge (ouch) of the desktop publishing revolution, having done Bantam Books first DTP book, on the Mac with a Laserprinter for a San Francisco book packager who shall remain nameless. As with others, some of Publish's makeovers were better left undone. Let us hope that their recent change will grow into a really effective transition. [moderator's kibbitz: part of the problem, I think, was outlined in the discussion in Publish! -- that when you get so involved in a design or a makeover, you can easily get to a point where you no longer see the work objectively. You're so involved in the details that you can't really see how everything works together anymore. Two other things, I think, contributed to it. First, I get the impression that they didn't put together a full prototype of the issue, rather they went with it live [this could well be wrong -- but there are design aspects that you see in one part of the magazine that disappear in the rest, which implies to me that they were tweaking the design as they went along]. Also, I think an unspoken intent of the design was to show off as much DTP techno-toys as humanly possible, which makes the thing WAY too busy. -- chuq] ---------------------------------------- Submissions to: desktop@plaid.sun.com Administrivia to: desktop-request@plaid.sun.com UUCP: {amdahl,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4}!sun!plaid!desktop{-request} Archives can be gotten from the archive-server. To get information on the archive-server, send mail to: archive-server@plaid.sun.com -or- sun!plaid!archive-server with a subject line of help