Path: utzoo!yunexus!geac!daveb From: daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: OSF, AT&T, and The Big Breakout Summary: User group! Message-ID: <2807@geac.UUCP> Date: 2 Jun 88 12:47:30 GMT Article-I.D.: geac.2807 Posted: Thu Jun 2 08:47:30 1988 References: <5412@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <3166@pdn.UUCP> <4629@hoptoad.uucp> <569@hscfvax.harvard.edu> Reply-To: daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) Organization: The Geac "Honeybun" Department. Lines: 26 In article <569@hscfvax.harvard.edu> pavlov@hscfvax.harvard.edu (G.Pavlov) writes: > 2. There is a small chance that this development may result in the creation > of a new element that I believe is long overdue: a "heavyweight" user > group that has sufficient economic force to counter some of the nonsense > and capriciousness that virtually all of the major Unix vendors have > exhibited. I do not believe in altruistic computer vendors. In my Honeywell days, I got to attend a HLSUA session in which the vendor had to sit in a meeting where the misfeatures and weaknesses of the system were discussed, pritoritzed and imposed, by popular vote, on HW to fix. And then report on their progress since the last session. Scawwy stuff for a new graduate who tended to believe the (then current) company line. That's the kind of pressure I'd like to see on all the vendors, to counteract the biases of pure market pressures... --dave -- David Collier-Brown. {mnetor yunexus utgpu}!geac!daveb Geac Computers Ltd., | "His Majesty made you a major 350 Steelcase Road, | because he believed you would Markham, Ontario. | know when not to obey his orders"