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From: holloway@drivax.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sources.d
Subject: Re: EndOfSourcesList+AnnouncementOfNetOmbudsman
Message-ID: <2015@drivax.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 8-Jul-87 14:02:12 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul  8 14:02:12 1987
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Reply-To: holloway@drivax.UUCP (Bruce Holloway)
Organization: Digitalis Research, Inc.
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In article <2778@ncoast.UUCP> allbery@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) writes:

>By whom, Mr. Webber?  I have proof (email) that the majority of people prefer
>having only moderated sources groups.  The MAJORITY, defined as > 50%, not
>something you can argue around.  If you'd like I'll mail you my collected
>email and some statistics.  (82K mail file, mostly short messages)

Getting votes for anything is useless. I'm surprised people even count the
votes when proposing changes - people who are FOR a proposal are FAR more
likely to send in a vote than those against. I can't think of even the
most unlikely group where "yea" votes haven't outstripped "neas". Divide
the number of "yes" votes by a hundred or so before compating them.

And add a "nea" vote for moderated source groups, and a "yea" (really,
1/100 of a "yea" B-) for an unmoderated source group. I don't care if my
programs don't get archived, I just want to see them out there.

I sent several programs to comp.sources.games. After waiting several weeks,
it became clear to me that I wasn't going to see them in the newsgroup, and
this after spending a good amount of time making sure that inews sent them
to the correct moderator (well, to ames). I never got the mail bounced back,
leastways.

Anyway. I became so frustrated that I just posted it to the newsgroup myself,
using the "Approved" field trick. Now THAT got a response. But more
importantly, the game got out - all I ever really wanted. So, once I thought
I had the moderators attention, I sent another source to the newsgroup. And
it hasn't shown up yet, and it has to have been at least a month.

Maybe moderation can work, maybe this is an isolated incident, or the
connection is failing somewhere - who can tell? If there were an unmoderated
sources group, I could just post to THAT and know it was getting out.

And I never minded all the other discussions, either.

- Bruce
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