Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!cmcl2!beta!hc!ames!ptsfa!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.mail.headers Subject: X.400 gateways to RFC822 mail systems Message-ID: <2379@hoptoad.uucp> Date: Wed, 8-Jul-87 19:21:02 EDT Article-I.D.: hoptoad.2379 Posted: Wed Jul 8 19:21:02 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jul-87 18:26:46 EDT References: <8707081643.AA28692@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 40 Xref: mnetor comp.protocols.tcp-ip:525 comp.mail.headers:212 The messages on EARN and Israeli conversion reminded me of an issue that's worth airing. The early efforts to provide X.400 mail gateways are not very encouraging. Here is a message I received from such a gateway at AT&T: Return-Path:Received: by hoptoad.uucp (1.1/SMI-3.0DEV3) id AA21284; Thu, 12 Mar 87 20:24:45 PST From: ihnp4!ihlpa!sft Message-Id: <8703130424.AA21284@hoptoad.uucp> Received: by ihnp4.ATT.COM id AA16275; 12 Mar 87 08:07:23 CST (Thu) Message-Version: 2 >To: /addr=ihnp4!hoptoad!gnu Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1987 08:06 CST Message-Service: Mail Message-Protocol: EMail End-Of-Header: Email-Version: 2 X-Postmark: scott.thompson attbl ih5c422 55669 3129792594 ihlpa!sft To: hoptoad!gnu Subject: Re: Wanted: agef program Ua-Message-Id: End-Of-Protocol: Thank you for the reply, but I already received a copy. THANKS :-) To me it looks like a core dump of a binary message header. I asked Mark Horton about this and he said it was from an X.400 gateway and that it was unlikely that it could get fixed, e.g. to remove all the trash headers. This must be political rather than technical since even I can write a sed script that will fix this message right up, and another one to insert meaningless headers on messages going the other way. It strongly reminds me of Geoff Collyer's joke messages that poke fun at RFC822 by inserting silly header lines. But I think these guys are serious, and they're The Telephone Company. -- {dasys1,ncoast,well,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@ingres.berkeley.edu Alt.all: the alternative radio of the Usenet.