Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ptsfa!lll-tis!mordor!sri-spam!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!brandx.rutgers.edu!webber From: webber@brandx.rutgers.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sources.d Subject: Re: EndOfSourcesList+AnnouncementOfNetOm - (nf) Message-ID: <289@brandx.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 8-Jul-87 19:57:56 EDT Article-I.D.: brandx.289 Posted: Wed Jul 8 19:57:56 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jul-87 15:07:59 EDT References: <267@brandx.UUCP> <7200004@iaoobelix.UUCP> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 31 Summary: i never said that there were few european sites In article <7200004@iaoobelix.UUCP>, wagner@iaoobelix.UUCP writes: > > Bob, why do you think there are not too many European sites on USENET. > I believe this is a strong prejudice! The procedure you suggest ... First, the procedure you went onto refer to is no longer operative, since weemba@berkeley.edu volunteered to be net ombudsman within 24 hours of the posting you refer to, thus activating the clause that said I was looking for volunteers to take over the task. After all, who would ever take me seriously if I was seen publically turning down a volunteer; some things just aren't done :-) From my experience trying to get a sources mailing list together, I quickly found out that the gateways out of the U.S. to places like Europe and Austrailia are downright paranoid about communications cost. For all practical purposes, they are playing by a different set of rules than the portion of Usenet that is inside the United States (and portions of Canada). All of these nets are referred to collectively as Internet. Once you step back from that and try and distinquish smaller entities, it seems to me as logical to split off Europe and Austrailia as it does to split off Arpanet (to which it is actually easier to get things into from an economic point of view). I am aware that this is a view that is different from the one derived from the history of various net protocols, but now that the junctures between nets are becoming less visible to users, I think it is time to look at things more in terms of where there is a connected region of sites playing by basically the same choices as far as group propagation and traffic control is concerned. Taken to its logical extreme, this would show a very interesting structure of communications. ---- BOB (webber@aramis.rutgers.edu ; rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!webber)