Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekcrl!tekchips!willc From: willc@tekchips.TEK.COM (Will Clinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Coral Lisp??? Message-ID: <1504@tekchips.TEK.COM> Date: Fri, 24-Jul-87 20:23:36 EDT Article-I.D.: tekchips.1504 Posted: Fri Jul 24 20:23:36 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 25-Jul-87 21:49:42 EDT References: <6646@dartvax.UUCP> <119200003@iucs> Reply-To: willc@tekchips.UUCP (Will Clinger) Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR. Lines: 44 In article <119200003@iucs> kitchel@iucs.cs.indiana.edu writes: > There is a review of Coral CommonLisp, ObjectLogo and >MacScheme+Toolsmith in the most recent MacUser magazine. No, the review was of ExperCommon Lisp (from Expertelligence), Object Logo (from Coral Software), and MacScheme+Toolsmith (from Semantic Microsystems). > The reviewer (if I recall correctly; maybe Ollie has >read it too and can correct me) claims that the Coral product >is not a full Common Lisp. This, of course, is not surprising. ExperCommon Lisp is not full Common Lisp and differs from Common Lisp in many important respects. I have heard from people I trust that Coral's product is real Common Lisp, with all of Common Lisp's strengths and weaknesses. >MacScheme comes off quite well in the review. It gives you >everything that is claimed for it and more than you probably >would expect, i.e. a nicer interface into the toolbox. The reviewer's main complaints about MacScheme+Toolsmith were that its interpreted code was slightly slower than the other two products' native code and that there was no way to construct double-clickable applications using it. Both complaints are answered by Version 1.0, which includes a high quality incremental native code compiler and an Application Builder that allows double-clickable applications to be created easily and distributed without royalties. Version 1.0 will be introduced at the MacWorld Expo in a few weeks. The version reviewed was one of Version 0.8, 0.81, or 0.82. Though this was a preliminary version, whose owners are entitled to free upgrades to Version 1.0, it still received "five mice" from MacUser. > Sid Kitchel > Computer Science Dept. > Indiana University Peace, William Clinger formerly of the computer science department at Indiana University, where he designed and constructed the system that became MacScheme; with an acknowledged stake in the success of Semantic Microsystems, he is now employed by the Tektronix Computer Research Laboratory.