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From: batie@agora.UUCP (Alan Batie)
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Subject: Re: Hacker Scholarship
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Date: Wed, 8-Jul-87 10:58:40 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul  8 10:58:40 1987
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In article <1063@killer.UUCP> robertl@killer.UUCP (Robert Lord) writes:
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>Look..There has ben alot of talk floating around about hackers and such
>beeing 'scum' and other derogatory types of life.  90% of hackers are just
>computer buffs who have no other way of getting computer time.  They have
>there Apple //e's with thier modems, and they want to expand and learn more.
>How do you expect them to do this?  Go to there scholl where they can teach
>the teacher, and have the same computers as thsi little hacker does at home?

This is a bad argument for two reasons:

1.  It's no justification.  I present the time honored analogy of stealing
(actually "joyriding") a car: "I don't have any way of getting there, so
I'll use this here car (gee, they even left the keys in it, but it would
have been easy to hot wire anyhow).  It's the middle of the night, and the
owner isn't using it now; I'll have it back by morning -- he'll never know
I used it.  I'll learn more about driving in the process, and well, if I
wreck it, gee, I'm so sorry."

Most people I know would be upset if someone did this.

2.  It's false.  There are public access Unix systems all over the place
now where one can get free access to do everything you're trying to accomplish
(except cracking the system).  I run one myself (agora, 503-640-4262) --
there's absolutely no need to crack a system to expand your horizons, unless
you're such a twit that no one will give you an account (and I doubt that).
-- 
Alan Batie
batie@agora
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