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From: ravi@mcnc.UUCP (Ravi Subrahmanyan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: And the winner is...
Message-ID: <2394@alvin.mcnc.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 14-Jul-87 08:38:08 EDT
Article-I.D.: alvin.2394
Posted: Tue Jul 14 08:38:08 1987
Date-Received: Thu, 16-Jul-87 04:26:23 EDT
References: <17680@cca.CCA.COM>
Reply-To: ravi@alvin.UUCP (Ravi Subrahmanyan)
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Summary: Boy, oh boy..

In article <17680@cca.CCA.COM> jack@cca.CCA.COM (Jack Orenstein) writes:
>
>A while ago I sent the following request to the amiga and atari groups:

	It's definitely our fault for not having responded to this guy
and all that (see most of the names he quoted?), but this is hysterical..  
Isn't it amazing how people get carried away while talking about stuff
they haven't the faintest idea about?  (reminds me of an old Magic Sac
debate here some months back).

>According to Ali Ozer:
>
>| If you want to expand above 1 Meg [on the Atari 1040ST],
>| you need to start kludging things, and you can't go above 4 even with the
>| biggest hacks. 

	Well, lessee, how does one kludge things?  One walks or runs
to a dealer, or calls mail order, shells out big bucks for a board
(price varies with amount of memory plugged in, but its very
reasonable.  I know because I almost ought one), pops open the ST,
pulls out the MMU, plugs the board into the socket, plugs back the
MMU, and then of course the usual crossed fingers, black cats &
lizards, chants etc. take over.   Ali was right, you can't go
over 4 meg, but a kludge?  Another posting earlier said something
about "obviously well intentioned  user".. I'm not saying he
has to be this way, but Ali, objective as far as the ST goes?  Best laugh 
I've had all month...

>
>prices for the Amiga disks are slightly higher than for the Atari. The Amiga
>prices I've heard are about $1000 for a 20 meg drive.

	So the difference would be $300-400 for a 20Meg drive.  And,
as far as availability of the ST's versus 2000's goes, I myself
wouldn't beleive either side till I see one in a store.  Seriously 
though, while it does seem like you (Jack) want an Amiga, after $2000
for an A2000 and $2500 for a CSA (this was mentioned for the
68020/68881 expansions) with something more than the
card-rack,  we're getting up to the price range of the Mac II.  At my
school we get such a good educational discount that it almost seems
worth it.  Does anyone know if they're shipping yet??


								-ravi