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Info-Atari16 Digest   Saturday, July 11, 1987   Volume 87 : Issue 273

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

              inquiry on current versions of C compilers
                          Lost disk sectors
                       More on HDB and GEMBOOT
                        Newest ATARINET index
                    Uniterm vs EasyDraw metafiles
                         HP LaserJet software
                What's the latest version of the Sac?
                        Re: SMALLTALK on Atari
                  Re: Control-F1, Alt-F1 ??? - (nf)
       ATARI ST w/hybrid arts smptetrack; Any users out there?
                   Re: Bug in Alcyon C v4.14 - (nf)

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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 87 16:39:45 +0200
From: mcvax!ingrid.laas.fr!didier@seismo.CSS.GOV (Didier Giralt)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject: inquiry on current versions of C compilers

  In the process of shopping around for a C compiler,
I would like to know what the latest releases of Megamax,
Mark Williams and Lattice are. I know some retailers
would just *love* to get rid of their oldies.

Thanks,

Didier.
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Didier Giralt                ...!seismo!mcvax!inria!lasso!didier
LAAS-CNRS
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31077 Toulouse Cedex             TO REACH ME: IT MAY FAIL.  (domain problems)
France

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Date: Tue, 7 Jul 87 14:03:57 EDT
From: Michael Fischer 
Subject: Lost disk sectors
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I wrote a little program to display the FAT (File Allocation Table)
on a disk that appeared to be completely full and was surprised
to see the last two clusters (= 4 sectors) free.  Looking at the
data itself confirmed that they were unused.  Doing a little
arithmetic, I came up with the following: When formatting a SS disk,
TOS announces 357376 bytes free.  Floppy disk space is allocated
in clusters of 2 sectors = 1024 bytes, so 357376 bytes = 349 clusters
= 698 sectors.  Add to that 1 for the boot sector, 5 for each of
the 2 copies of the FAT, and 7 for the root directory, and you get
a total of 716 sectors.  A standard format disk has 80 tracks times
9 sectors per track for a total of 720 sectors, so indeed there is
a discrepency of 4.  Similar results apply to a DS disk:  TOS
announces 726016 bytes free = 709 clusters = 1418 sectors.  Add
to it the 18 sectors at the beginning to get 1436 sectors, 4 less
that the 1440 on a raw disk.

Has anybody else noticed this before?  Is it a TOS bug?  If so,
has it been fixed in the newer ROMs?

--Mike Fischer 

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Date:         Tue, 07 Jul 87 13:58:31 CDT
From: "University (of Houston) ACE (UACE)"
 
Subject:      More on HDB and GEMBOOT
To: INFO-ATARI16@score.stanford.edu

Here is a little note which Konrad sent with the new versions of HDB & GEMBOOT.
--------------------------------------------------- Mike Vederman

Hello Mike,
to reduce transatlantic email I send you the newest versions of GEMBOOT and
HDB.

HDB V2.3 has same minor improvements:
 - deselect floppy (the ROM startup code leaves the floppy drives selected
   till first access)
 - optional switch to floppy boot if a special key combination is pressed
   during boot

New features of GEMBOOT V1.10 (compared to V1.08) are:
 - incremental add of folder cache blocks during directory scan
 - indicates free directory cache space left after login
 - adjustable size of DESKTOP environment buffer
 - definition of DESKTOP environment variables within GEMBOOT.INF
 - optional use of batch shell other than COMMAND.TOS
 - new program GEMFRL.TOS to locate and print the GEMDOS internal free
   lists

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Date:         Tue, 07 Jul 87 14:00:53 CDT
From: "University (of Houston) ACE (UACE)"
 
Subject:      Newest ATARINET index
To: INFO-ATARI16@score.stanford.edu

Here is a little note explaining using ATARINET along with the newest index.

- Mike
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please use your interactive message facility to talk to atarinet.  Use:

tell uh-info at uhupvm1 atarinet help   (from CMS)   -or-
send/remote uhupvm1 uh-info "atarinet help"  (from VAX/VMS, JNET 2.0 or less)
     -or-
send uh-info@uhupvm1 "atarinet help"  (VAX/VMS, JNET 3.0 or greater)

You can only access ATARINET interactively on BITNET.  If you do not have
interactive messages (and are on BITNET) or you are on another net, please
send a note requesting the files you want to:

UACE0 at UHUPVM1  (that's a zero)

Large requests will certainly take a lot of time to process.

- Mike Vederman
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* LISTSERV at FINHUTC  or  LISTSERV at CANADA01   *
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* Files with * instead of : indicate new entries  *
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* ATARINET now has 15 megabytes of online storage *
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UNITERM  ALL       * Uniterm 1.7b 027  on 6/30/87 (uue and arc)
ATARINET EXEC      : CMS EXEC for easy use of ATARINET
ATARINET INDEX     : This index
DLII     NEW       * Version changes, updated for DLII V .024
KONRAD   NEW       * New things for HDB v2.3 and GEMBOOT v1.10
UNITERM  NEW       * Addendum to Uniterm 1.7a+ docs, updated for 1.7b 027
UUDECODE BAS       : use it to decode uudecode uue, ST BASIC
PAD61    C         : Add truncated spaces to files
TRACE    C         : Use with TEMPLMON UUE a great set of bebugging tools
XYPLOT   C         : Plot curves, C source
UUDECODE CLD       : VAX uudecode defs
UUENCODE CLD       : VAX uuencode defs
RAMDISK  HEX       : Reset proof ramdisk and docs
ROMAN    ICN       : ICON sample program
MEANDER  ICN       : ICON sample program
WORDCNT  ICN       : ICON sample program
ASBEST   IM        : Image file for AIM
BNOISE   IM        : Image file for AIM
CERMET   IM        : Image file for AIM
KETEL    IM        : Image file for AIM
MAAN     IM        : Image file for AIM
TUD      IM        : Image file for AIM
TRUI     IM        : Image file for AIM
BBS      LIST      : List of BBS
ATARINET NEWS      : ATARINET news file
UUDECODE PAS       : VAX UUDECODE
UUENCODE PAS       : VAX UUENCODE
PROFFMAN PRF       : PROFF text formatter manual
PROFF1   SH        : Source for PROFF
PROFF2   SH        : Source for PROFF
PROFF3   SH        : Source for PROFF
PROFF    FIX       : Source fix for small PROFF bug
MOLECULE RUN       * Brief instructions to run MOLECULE
KEYBOARD TRANS     : Keyboard translation tables
PASCAL   TUTOR     : Tutorial on Pascal
INTERUPT S         : Interupts any program (almost)
RELMOD   S         : Relocation linker
SPRITE   SH        : Using Line-A sprite calls
1ST2PS   UUE       * Convert 1st Word text to Post Script file.
ADVENT   UUE       : The original collosal caves adventure.
AIM      UUE       : Advanced IMage processing - 4 stars - needs 1 meg
AIMHELP  UUE       : Help files for AIM UUE above
AMIGA    UUE       : Long awaited Amiga emulator - color only.  :-)
APL      UUE       : APL 68000 for the ST - DEMO version
APLWKS   UUE       : APL 68000 for the ST - DEMO workspaces
ARC      UUE       : ARC - compactor, archiver...
ARGUS    UUE       : Intercepts disk I/O and prints info on screen - mono
ASH      UUE       : Very nice shell, but Gulam is better.
BLACK    UUE       : A nice screen saver that works!
CALC     UUE       : A very nice mono calculator
CC       UUE       : A primitive CC for the ST.
CC2      UUE       : PD C compiler.  (BAD copy... please send if u have good)
CZPATCH  UUE       : MIDI prog of some sort ... :-)
DALEKS   UUE       : A game.
DCCLOCK  UUE       : Must See!! All rez, all progs.
DCFORMAT UUE       * Enhanced The Formatter, many new options, mono only
DEINST   UUE       : Turn 1st word .cfg back to .hex
DEMO     UUE       : Command file for AIM UUE above
DISASSM  UUE       : A nice PD disassembler.
DISKEDIT UUE       : A disk editor.
DISKTOP2 UUE       : A disk organizer.
DLII     UUE       * A Disk Looker by Simon Poole (use at own risk) v.022
DLII     DOC       * DLII documentation and changes
DUEX     UUE       : A German disk utility program.
DVI      UUE       : PREVIEW TEX FILES ON MONOCHROME SYSTEM, 1 MEG NEEDED
DXPATCH  UUE       : MIDI prog of some sort ...
ETERNAL  UUE       : Another reset proof ramdisk
FF       UUE       : Yet another fractal program, but faster...
FOLDRXXX UUE       : Replace XXX w/number of folders to add, put in auto
FOOTBALL UUE       : Less than great football game
FORMATER UUE       : Fast disk formatter for all STs
FORTH    UUE       : PD FORTH
FRACTAL  UUE       : YES, another fractal program...
FSIZE    UUE       : Acc tells xmodem block size
GEMBOOT  UUE       * New version 1.10  Fix dreaded 40 folder limit.
GFABAS20 UUE       : GFA BASIC run-only version
GFA_ECAD UUE       : GFA BASIC for electronics CAD
GOBANG   UUE       : A game like PENTE, mono only.
GULAM    UUE       : Most complete shell around
HDB      UUE       * New hard disk booter version 2.3
HDSCAN   UUE       : No known working version of 1.3. If you have, please send.
ICON     UUE       : ICON programming language
KALKLOCK UUE       : A clock/calendar desk accessory
KEYBOARD UUE       : Change keyboard translation
KEYEDIT  UUE       : For use with Uniterm versions 1.6g+
KRABAT   UUE       : Monochrome chess game, nice.
KRABAT2  UUE       : Picture files for KRABAT, put in PICTURES folder
LARN1    UUE       : A GAME, D&D TYPE (UUE AND ARC)
LARN2    UUE       :    "                 "
LARN3    UUE       :    "                 "
LARN4    UUE       :    "                 "
LARN5    UUE       :    "                 "
LARN6    UUE       :    "                 "
LESS     UUE       : Just like more, but its less
MEGABLT2 UUE       : A nice drawing program
MG       UUE       : Micro GNU Emacs
MOBZDIAL UUE       : DA that dials phone numbers. v2
MOBZKEY2 UUE       : Change keyboard configuration
MOBZUTIL UUE       : Disk functions from accessory
MOLECULE UUE       * Fantastic, plot atomic particles and animate!!
MONST    UUE       : Debugger, monitor... excellent
MOSHE    UUE       : Favorites from Moshe Braner; docs, progs, source
MULTIANI UUE       : Multiple birds in flight (blitter demo) low rez.
NEWFONT  UUE       : Change monochrome fonts
NIGHT    UUE       : Screen saver ...
OXYGEN1  UUE       * EXCELLENT digitized music, part 1 of 4, 1meg
OXYGEN2  UUE       * EXCELLENT digitized music, part 2 of 4, 1meg
OXYGEN3  UUE       * EXCELLENT digitized music, part 3 of 4, 1meg
OXYGEN4  UUE       * EXCELLENT digitized music, part 4 of 4, 1meg
PCOMMAND UUE       : A command line interpreter, very, very good.
PROFF    UUE       : PROFF text formatter
PRESTEL  UUE       : A videotex terminal program
SBASE    UUE       : A simple database
SPACEWAR UUE       : The spacewar game version 3.1, color and mono
SPEAK2   UUE       : Use to input file to stspeech. (Which I don't have)
STARCHRT UUE       : Plot heavenly bodies in low rez. Very good!!
STMAKE1  UUE       : A make for the ST.
STMAKE2  UUE       :    "          "
STMAKE3  UUE       :    "          "
STMAKE4  UUE       :    "          "
TEMPLMON UUE       : Nice looking debugger... (If only I knew German)
UG       UUE       : Uniterm 1.7a+ manual
UUDECOD2 UUE       : New and improved!!  Dumas version.
UUDECODE UUE       : Compiled uudecode, fast
UUENCODE UUE       : Compiled uuencode, fast
WINDOW   UUE       : A breakout-like accessory...
ZOTTL    UUE       : Cute German demo.
ZZZAP    UUE       : Cleans up unwanted files from ramdisk.
STMAKE   DOC       : Docs for STMAKE
UUCODE   UUE       : Desk accessory that does uuencode and uudecode!
ARC      DOC       : Docs for ARC
DUEX     DOC       : Docs for DUEX UUE
DVI      DOC       : Doc file for DVI UE
GEMBOOT  DOC       : Explains briefly GEMBOOT UUE
HDSCAN   DOC       : Docs for HDSCAN UUE
SPEAK    DOC       : Docs for speak2 uue below
TEMPLMON DOC       : English version of docs... Well kinda... Get TRACE C
UUCODE   DOC       : Documentation for VAX UU**CODE

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Date:     Tue, 7 Jul 87 12:35 ADT
From: 
Subject:  Uniterm vs EasyDraw metafiles
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
X-Original-To:  "info-atari16@score.stanford.edu", FXDDR

I've been looking at the metafiles that Uniterm can generate when used with
GDOS.  The metafiles work very nicely with the DRI OUTPUT.PRG that EasyDraw
supplies...I've had excellent results using OUTPUT.PRG to send graphics to
the HP LaserJet.  However, trying to read the files into EasyDraw (v 2.06)
gets nowhere.
As far as I can tell EasyDraw is very narrow minded about the scaling it will
accept.  Does anybody know of a program or procedure that will make Uniterm
metafiles acceptable to EasyDraw?
Don Rice
FXDDR@ALASKA.BITNET

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Date:     Tue, 7 Jul 87 14:44 ADT
From: 
Subject:  HP LaserJet software
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
X-Original-To:  "info-atari16@score.stanford.edu", FXDDR

I'm curious if there are any utilities for the HP LaserJet (series II,
512K) out there.  I'd especially like to find DEGAS-style driver(s)
for it.  I've set up a simple print program to allow printing in the
available fonts and orientations.
Thanks,
Don Rice
FXDDR@ALASKA.BITNET

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Date: 7 Jul 87 15:23:15 GMT
From: trwrb!sansom@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Richard Sansom)
Subject: What's the latest version of the Sac?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

About 2 weeks ago I ordered the Magic Sac from Computer Games + in Orange,
CA.  The fellow who took my order assured me that he had the latest version
of the Sac, and that his price ($99!)  included the Mac 64K ROMs!  Needless
to say, I placed my order and waited for the package to arrive the next day
via UPS (I live in Torrance - about an hour away from Orange).  Well, to
make a long story short, the Sac didn't arrive until yesterday (at least a
week late), it didn't have the Mac ROMs, and it appears to be version 2.0!
If I'm not mistaken, the latest version should be somewhere around 4.2x by
now.

Can anyone out there tell me what the latest version should be?  Also, does
anyone know of a place in the L.A.  area where I can get some Mac ROMs?

Thanks a bundle in advance.

-Rich
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Date: 6 Jul 87 13:13:39 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!laura!@@seismo.css.gov  (Andreas Toenne)
Subject: Re: SMALLTALK on Atari
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <1051@ark.cs.vu.nl> kleef@cs.vu.nl (Patrick van Kleef) writes:
>In article <231@philtis.UUCP> rob@philtis.UUCP (Rob van den Berg @ CAD Centre)
 writes:
>>Does anyone know if a SMALLTALK implementation for
>>Atari-ST computers exists?
>
>Try addressing GEROG@UNIDO (both Bitnet and UUCP). As I gathered
Beware !
His correct name is georg !
You may write to hmm@unido.uucp as well.
D

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Date: 6 Jul 87 11:03:00 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!qtecmuc!ger@seismo.css.gov
Subject: Re: Control-F1, Alt-F1 ??? - (nf)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu


Another way to get into protected memory is the use of the Super() function.
Goes sumpn like this:

long savestack;

savestack=Super(0L);
fiddle_around_with_protected_memory();
Super(savestack);

Gerhard Pehland
UUCP: ...!seismo!unido!qtecmuc!ger

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Date: 8 Jul 87 16:11:15 GMT
From: ihnp4!ihlpa!rwn@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Bob Neumann)
Subject: ATARI ST w/hybrid arts smptetrack; Any users out there?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

    I am planning the purchase of an ATARI ST 1040 with
    monochrome monitor. I plan to use the hybrid arts
    smptetrack sequencing software/hardware for composing, etc.

    Does anyone have expierience with this system, espiecially
    the softaware package? Any pros/cons that I should consider?

    Thanks in advance for your help.

                Bob

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Date: 6 Jul 87 11:20:00 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!qtecmuc!ger@seismo.css.gov
Subject: Re: Bug in Alcyon C v4.14 - (nf)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu


Indeed, you don't need sizeof(STRUCTURE) to increment the pointer
to the next or any other structure.
Just saying:

next+=n;

sets the pointer to the n'th next structure.
This is because every pointer+integer operation always adds
integer*sizeof(pointer object) to the pointer, so you don't have to care
for the size of the object. This goes for pointer++ as well as for
foo=pointer+5.

next=this+sizeof(STRUCTURE)
will set the pointer sizeof(STRUCTURE) structures further, probably
to neverland.
I doubt, if this was your intention.

Gerhard Pehland
UUCP: ...!seismo!unido!qtecmuc!ger

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