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From: dg@wrs.UUCP (David Goodenough)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Hacker Scholarship
Message-ID: <234@wrs.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 10-Jul-87 15:53:18 EDT
Article-I.D.: wrs.234
Posted: Fri Jul 10 15:53:18 1987
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Reply-To: dg@wrs.UUCP (David Goodenough)
Organization: Wind River Systems, Emeryville, CA
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In article <1135@codas.ATT.COM> dlm@codas.ATT.COM (Don_L_Million) writes:
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>Sure!  And rapists are just nice guys trying to learn something about sex!
>This is the stupidest article I've seen.  I suppose that if someone stole
>your car, and then told the police that he was just trying to learn how to
>drive, you'd think he was a nice guy looking for an education? 

[Getting out my flamethrower :-)]

I think someone here is forgetting the original definition of a hacker
as opposed to a phreak. Using the above analogy, a hacker would be
roughly like Casanova, whereas a PHREAK would be your rapist. In other
words phreak is the term that should be used to describe people that
attempt malicious damage or theft. I use the term hacker to describe
someone like myself who writes a 90% full implementation of rogue on
a Z80, or who doesn't like the BIOS for his system, so he re-writes
it, or who just generally isn't afraid to spit on his hands and go to
work with assembler doing things that not even C can acheive. NOTHING
I have done while wearing my hacker hat has ever constituted theft or
malicious damage. I think that trojan horses are just plain sick,
BBSs are there for useful interchange of information, or entertainment.

[Flamethrower away]

P.S. I missed a golden opportunity - Listening to KFOG this morning they
had Woz in the studio for at least 1/2 an hour, and I never got a
chance to call him up and get his thoughts on the matter. C'est la vie.
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		dg@wrs.UUCP - David Goodenough

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