Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!ucla-cs!cit-vax!mangler From: mangler@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (System Mangler) Newsgroups: news.software.b Subject: Re: several problems with news software Message-ID: <3215@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Mon, 13-Jul-87 06:15:15 EDT Article-I.D.: cit-vax.3215 Posted: Mon Jul 13 06:15:15 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Jul-87 01:44:57 EDT References: <608@nonvon.UUCP> <4668@grebyn.COM> <17480@amdcad.AMD.COM> Followup-To: comp.software-eng Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 18 In article <4668@grebyn.COM> karl@grebyn.COM (Karl A. Nyberg) writes: >Last >company I worked for was that way - if you spotted a problem and recommended >a solution, you were responsible for implementing it. In article <17480@amdcad.AMD.COM>, phil@amdcad.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes: > Oh, what a clever way to discourage people from making helpful comments. Yes, "signing up" is an irksome expectation, and I wish Kidder's "Soul of a New Machine" had not popularized it. Another great one is insisting that something work the first time. This merely insures that problems will not be reported to management (at least until they've effectively killed the project anyway). Followups to comp.software-eng Don Speck speck@vlsi.caltech.edu {seismo,rutgers}!cit-vax!speck