Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!OZ.AI.MIT.EDU!MINSKY From: MINSKY@OZ.AI.MIT.EDU.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: AIList Digest V5 #171 Message-ID:Date: Tue, 7-Jul-87 01:11:00 EDT Article-I.D.: MIT-OZ.MINSKY.12316368332.BABYL Posted: Tue Jul 7 01:11:00 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jul-87 13:45:24 EDT References: Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 16 Approved: ailist@stripe.sri.com At the end of that long and angry flame, I think D.Norman unwittingly hit upon what made him so mad: > Gedanken experiments are not accepted methods in science: they are > simply suggestive for a source of ideas, not evidence at the end. And that's just what AI has provided these last thirty years - a source of ideas that were missing from psychology in the century before. Representation theories, planning procedures, heuristic methods, hundreds of such. The history of previous psychology is ripe with "proved" hypotheses, few of which were worth a damn, and many of which were refuted by Norman himself. Now "cognitive psychology" - which I claim and Norman will predictably deny (see there: a testable hypothesis!) is largely based on AI theories and experiments - is taking over at last - as a result of those suggestions for ideas.