Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!ll-xn!ames!pioneer!eugene From: eugene@pioneer.arpa (Eugene Miya N.) Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Subject: Re: Definition of science and of scientific method. Message-ID: <2385@ames.arpa> Date: Mon, 20-Jul-87 12:49:05 EDT Article-I.D.: ames.2385 Posted: Mon Jul 20 12:49:05 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 21-Jul-87 05:14:42 EDT References: <6693@allegra.UUCP> <1664@tekcrl.TEK.COM> <1084@aecom.YU.EDU> <2250@mmintl.UUCP> <322@hubcap.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ames.arpa Reply-To: eugene@pioneer.UUCP (Eugene Miya N.) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif. Lines: 31 In article <322@hubcap.UUCP> steve@hubcap.UUCP (Steve ) writes: >I think your confusing the model with "reality." Science deals with models and >their predictions. Philosophy seems to deal with how to view models in >light of the fact that Nature does as She darn well pleases - with or without >our understanding. This is why our science can predict the new discoveries of superconductivity right? (sorry, I didn't want to sound too sarcastic, since we don't have a theory.) I think science works best at its boundaries (also works it worst). When we don't really understand things is where the definition of science begins to fall down (e.g., QM, superconductivity, etc.), it's not a static definition, so prediction is a desirable, but not necessary trait. Here is where the play between theory and experiment come in. It was a peculiarly American trait that we emphasized experiment to a fanatic degree (until recently). Consider many of the past great American men of science: Franklin, Edison, and even Lawrence. This analogy is largely Feigenbaum's rehashed with an addition. Kuhn has a lesser know work entitled "The Essential Tension" which is also suggested reading (after Structure of Scientific Revolutions). From the Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers: --eugene miya NASA Ames Research Center eugene@ames-aurora.ARPA "You trust the `reply' command with all those different mailers out there?" "Send mail, avoid follow-ups. If enough, I'll summarize." {hplabs,hao,ihnp4,decwrl,allegra,tektronix,menlo70}!ames!aurora!eugene