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Subject: Re: several problems with news software
Message-ID: <3215@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Date: Mon, 13-Jul-87 06:15:15 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul 13 06:15:15 1987
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In article <4668@grebyn.COM> karl@grebyn.COM (Karl A. Nyberg) writes:
>Last
>company I worked for was that way - if you spotted a problem and recommended
>a solution, you were responsible for implementing it.

In article <17480@amdcad.AMD.COM>, phil@amdcad.AMD.COM (Phil Ngai) writes:
> Oh, what a clever way to discourage people from making helpful comments.

Yes, "signing up" is an irksome expectation, and I wish Kidder's "Soul
of a New Machine" had not popularized it.

Another great one is insisting that something work the first time.
This merely insures that problems will not be reported to management
(at least until they've effectively killed the project anyway).

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Don Speck   speck@vlsi.caltech.edu  {seismo,rutgers}!cit-vax!speck