Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!lll-lcc!ames!elroy!smeagol!jplgodo!wlbr!scgvaxd!trwrb!cadovax!gryphon!greg From: greg@gryphon.CTS.COM (Greg Laskin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Electronic Arts bashing Message-ID: <965@gryphon.CTS.COM> Date: Thu, 16-Jul-87 10:00:17 EDT Article-I.D.: gryphon.965 Posted: Thu Jul 16 10:00:17 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jul-87 11:45:06 EDT References:<2496@husc6.UUCP> <1651@cadovax.UUCP> <880@hp-sdd.HP.COM> Reply-To: greg@gryphon.CTS.COM (Greg Laskin) Organization: Trailing Edge Technology, Redondo Beach, CA Lines: 44 In article <880@hp-sdd.HP.COM> nick@hp-sdd.UUCP (Nick Flor) writes: >In article <1651@cadovax.UUCP> keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) writes: >> >>Data flow diagrams, Structure Charts, Data Dictionaries, Pseudocode, >>Coding standards, Test Plans, Lab Notebooks, the whole steenking >>ball of wax. Total documentation and predictability. Yeah, that's >>it, that's the ticket! > >It's this sort of idiotic mentality that prevents quality software >from coming out. Oooh! A VALUE JUDGEMENT. > >I am a proponent of structured analysis and design techniques. >If more companies started using them, then we'd have a hell >of a lot less bugs to contend with in the software we buy. Not really. The sellers would have easier to maintain programs that would more than likely miss their market windows, though. >Right now, we have hackers publishing a lot of the software for >the Amiga using a bottom-up-do-what-is-easiest-first methodology. >Please give me a break. This only works in the classroom. "bottom-up" in the classroom gets you a bad grade. RealLife is different. The quality of a program is directly proportional to the quality of the people who designed and produced it. Structured methodology may well be useful for imposing discipline where it is required but it does not, by itself, insure a bug-free product (or for that matter that any product will result) just as non-adherence to "structure" dogma does not insure a "buggy" product. You've been had. I hope your value judgement of the merit of Keith's posting is not indicative of how you normally comport yourself in public. -- Greg Laskin "When everybody's talking and nobody's listening, how can we decide?" INTERNET: greg@gryphon.CTS.COM UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd, sdcsvax, ihnp4}!crash!gryphon!greg UUCP: {philabs, scgvaxd}!cadovax!gryphon!greg