Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!mordor!lll-tis!ptsfa!ihnp4!ihlpe!rdkuphal From: rdkuphal@ihlpe.ATT.COM (Kuphal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.att Subject: Re: 3b1 crashes Message-ID: <1889@ihlpe.ATT.COM> Date: Wed, 22-Jul-87 00:16:30 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpe.1889 Posted: Wed Jul 22 00:16:30 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Jul-87 02:22:51 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois Lines: 59 Keywords: 3b1 crashes >From: mark@gizzmo.UUCP (mark hilliard) >Newsgroups: comp.sys.att >Subject: 3b1 crashes >Date: 19 Jul 87 23:55:31 GMT > >Help! I have been having SERIOUS system crashes with no warning, panic >messages or any other indication at all except that it always happens >during a uucp transfer. The system just stops. Even the keyboard >leds stop working (caps). I just recently installed the new version >of hdb and I am thinking that the problem is with it. I have reinstalled >the old hdb version 2 and will run it again. I have the combo board >installed and a modem tied to it is my window to the world. > Has anyone else seen a problem like this? I would be very >greatfull for your inputs. > I had the experience of having a 3b1 at home for awhile for work related computing and had the same experience you have had. After one month of fooling around with it, here are my results and a conclusion : 1. On my machine, it ALWAYS happens when uucp transfers are being done. 2. First was using the non-HDB uucp, so got the HDB uucp, it does does the same thing. By the way, I re-loaded the system at least 10 times during that month. 3. If you are lucky to be still on when it is happening, look around in /bin /usr/bin /etc with ls -l and notice the STRANGE file permissions and file sizes etc. (You must do this quick tho!!) The machine is quickly trashing files until it has trashed files that are needed to keep itself running!!!! 4. I finally got a message (mail) from the system as it was thrashing itself to death. Seems it was running out of SWAP space, and removing processes to regain SWAP space. Consulsion, this thing needs more SWAP space!! Problem: I have not found a person that can tell me in easy terms how to re-configure the hard disk to get more swap space, and YES IT WAS CONFIGURED FOR MULTI-USER !!!! For the person on the att.sys.unixpc AT&T group: Now you have THREE machines with the same problem, so I guess I CAN KNOCK the machine now HUM ????? As you guessed, I work for AT&T, and the AT&T news group did not have any answers either. PS: AT&T service replaced the drive 3 times in response to this problem, (found out the person that had the machine before me was having strange problems also). I GOT RID OF THE MACHINE, it was useless to me. This machine did not have a combo board, in fact I removed the DOS-73 board to try in isolate the problem, no luck there either. Lots of luck