Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!ut-sally!husc6!think!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU!ron From: ron@TOPAZ.RUTGERS.EDU (Ron Natalie) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Wollongong TCP/IP for VAX/VMS Message-ID: <8707081702.AA03732@topaz.rutgers.edu> Date: Wed, 8-Jul-87 13:02:57 EDT Article-I.D.: topaz.8707081702.AA03732 Posted: Wed Jul 8 13:02:57 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Jul-87 04:20:36 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 28 Would you like to propose an alternative. The other major commercial offering (DTC/COMPION/GOULD/Whatever) ACCESS for VMS is WORSE. In addition the morons at the current company (Internet Solutions or Network Solutions, I can't remember) had little understanding of the internet at all. Their primary VMS worker kept insisting that when they got a name server implementation working it would fix their broken routing problems. I posted a rather lengthy description of the problem after that to the net and got some more calls from the management of the company but the code never got fixed. Woolengong, in addition to being blastedly expensive, falls short of being useful. In addition to having no name server support and no mail system to speak of, their low level Ethernet kills the entire system trying to ARP. This happens when it receives broadcast datagrams that it is trying to forward, or even if a host it has traffic for is down. It spurts a continuous stream of ARP's that never get answered which seem to be done at some priority that causes the VAX's to become virtually unresponive. Their inability to deal with any sort of broadcast means we have to segregate them from nets with real hosts on them. I frequently have to proxy arp for downed hosts when it is busy arping for them and they aren't capable of answering. Someday, someone will make a commercial VMS TCP offering that works worth a damn, and when they do RUTGERS will immediately put it on every single VMS machine we have (and we have a lot). -Ron