Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!ucla-cs!zen!ucbvax!decvax!ima!johnl From: steve@hubcap.clemson.edu (Steve (D.E.) Stevenson) Newsgroups: comp.compilers Subject: Re: Bliss Message-ID: <336@hubcap.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-Jul-87 09:30:04 EDT Article-I.D.: hubcap.336 Posted: Mon Jul 27 09:30:04 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 28-Jul-87 03:12:29 EDT References: <627@ima.ISC.COM> Sender: johnl@ima.ISC.COM Reply-To: steve@hubcap.clemson.edu (Steve (D.E.) Stevenson) Organization: Clemson University, Clemson, SC Lines: 28 Approved: compilers@ima.UUCP in article <627@ima.ISC.COM>, chuck@amdahl.amdahl.com (Charles Simmons) says: > ..... To summarize, a language becomes popular by being widely available. > Wide availability implies that either the language is being pushed > by IBM and/or the government, or the language is easy to implement, > or the language is highly portable. This seems to be backwards. Things become widely available because people use them. While I agree that the government can try, it don't necessarily work: c.f. Jovial. C is far from easy to implement on non-dec stuff, surely is not pushed by IBM and isn't all that portable. -- Steve Stevenson steve@hubcap.clemson.edu (aka D. E. Stevenson), dsteven@clemson.csnet Department of Computer Science, (803)656-5880.mabell Clemson Univeristy, Clemson, SC 29634-1906 [I have to disagree. C is quite straightfoward to implement on any byte- addressable machine. We all know of implementations for 68000, 808x, IBM 370, so on and so forth. I personally mutated the Sys V Vax compler into a usable ROMP (IBM PC RT) compiler in a few months. And as far a portability goes, I routinely take source code from the net that is intended for 32-bit Unix boxes and make it run on my 16-bit PC with very little trouble. Try doing that with most Pascal programs. -John] -- Send compilers articles to ima!compilers or, in a pinch, to Levine@YALE.ARPA Plausible paths are { ihnp4 | decvax | cbosgd | harvard | yale | cca}!ima Please send responses to the originator of the message -- I cannot forward mail accidentally sent back to compilers. Meta-mail to ima!compilers-request