Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!mcvax!enea!ttds!draken!sics!pd From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: FAPC languages vs. The Good Guys Message-ID: <1434@sics.se> Date: Fri, 17-Jul-87 14:27:35 EDT Article-I.D.: sics.1434 Posted: Fri Jul 17 14:27:35 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jul-87 19:25:25 EDT References: <764@unc.cs.unc.edu> <1120@killer.UUCP> <1064@ur-valhalla.UUCP> <2350@ames.arpa> <1063@theory.cs.cmu.edu> Reply-To: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson) Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science Lines: 34 In article <1063@theory.cs.cmu.edu> dld@theory.cs.cmu.edu (David Detlefs) writes: >Eugene mentioned that CLU was his favorite language that he didn't get >to use; it's my favorite language also, and I don't get to use it. I >think perhaps a reason we both like it is also a reason it doesn't >belong in this equivalence class: it offers garbage-collected heap >storage. In this respect it is more like a strongly typed Lisp than >it is like any of the other languages. In this discussion the terms "Algol-based" and "the Algols" keep popping up, which is unfortunate, since it puts to much kinship between Algol-60 and Algol-68 than really exists. Algol-68 was a radically new language which in concept more resembles Lisp and similar languages than Algol-60. Algol-68 has heap storage and the best typing mechanism I've seen ("types" are called "modes" and are more general than types are normally). Still, the language was conceived in the '60:s which means it is made for a batch-oriented edit-compile-load cycle. I'll rather have a Lispmachine any day... > >Missing CLU, > >Dave Kinda nostalgic about Algol-68, PD -- Per Danielsson UUCP: {mcvax,decvax,seismo}!enea!sics!pd Swedish Institute of Computer Science PO Box 1263, S-163 13 SPANGA, SWEDEN "No wife, no horse, no moustache."