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From: croft@SAFE.STANFORD.EDU (Bill Croft)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Mac file components on non-apple file servers
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Date: Mon, 13-Jul-87 17:22:00 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul 13 17:22:00 1987
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Rich Andrews at Apple (one of the Appleshare developers) would like
to know how the various file servers on UNIX (and elsewhere) store
the components of a Mac file (data fork, resource fork, finder info).
It appears that each file server is implementing this
differently.  It might help if there was some standardization in
this area.  Could the file server developers each reply to 
Rich (and info-appletalk) with a brief rational for their choices?
Hopefully we'll get responses from Columbia (CAP/Aufs), UMich CITI
(MacNFS), Centram (TOPS), Alisa (VMS file service), etc.

To mention in passing:  John Seamons at LucasFilm chose for his
original EFS server to store the components of a Mac file (for example
named 'foo') as:
	foo.DF		(data fork)
	foo.RF		(resource fork)
	foo.IF		(finder info)

This is a very simple scheme, and I think has some advantages over
trying to 'hide' these details from the user, as CAP/Aufs does with
'.resource' and '.finderinfo' subdirectories.

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Date: Sat, 11 Jul 87 14:41:19 pdt
From: Richard Andrews 
To: croft%safe@ARGUS.STANFORD.EDU
Subject: file server survey

When you put a Mac file on some other file system that doesn't support dual-
forked files, in what format should it be stored?  Some kind of unary format
(data, rsrc, forks and finder info crammed into one file); file-per-fork
with invisibility of the resource fork; directory containing several files; 
etc.???

I have managed (I think) to get myself connected to the bulletin board
comp.protocols.appletalk and apple.general, but I haven't figured out how
to post a message.  Could you do that for me, and ask people to send their
suggestions directly to my account?  I will collect all the info and discuss
it with a working group here at Apple.  Hopefully, Apple can come up with a
recommendation that will satisfy most people.

Thanks for your help,

Rich 

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