Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!gatech!bloom-beacon!husc6!necntc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!ANDREW.CMU.EDU!rs4u+ From: rs4u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Mac II horrors Message-ID:Date: Mon, 13-Jul-87 13:58:29 EDT Article-I.D.: andrew.cUyFz5y00WI8MT00Un Posted: Mon Jul 13 13:58:29 1987 Date-Received: Tue, 14-Jul-87 06:48:39 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Lines: 63 THis morning, I carried my hard drive from my Mac Plus to a newly acquired Mac II. I hooked everything up, turned on the disk, waited 10 seconds, and turned on the Mac II. Whiole the Mac was booting, I moved the keyboard to a more comfortable position; in the process, the keyboard cable snagged (not my fault; I've alread shot the installer), and the keyboard got disconnected. The Mac II stopped dead in its tracks. Screen went dark, disk stopped running. So I turn everything off, reroute the cables from the keyboard, and fire everything up. No response from the hard drive. The Mac II sits there and blinks the question mark, so I stick in a floppy. The system boots; I get the floppy's icon, then I get the message: "This is not a Macintosh disk; do you want to initialize it?" After some sincere curses, I click "Cancel". I fire up the Apple HD SC Setup (I'm using HD 20SC), and initialize the hard disk. But when I quit to the Finder, the Hard drive's icon doesn't appear! So I go back intoh HD SC setup, and it says that my hard disk (SCSI 5) is not a Macintosh-format hard disk. So I carry the whole deal back to my Plus, and restore the hard disk (DiskFit is *wonderful*). Then I go back to the Mac II, hook up everything, and power on. This time, I get a System Error 33 on startup. I click Restart, and once again, my hard disk is destroyed! Why is my hard disk getting ruined?! Here's the background: Mac II with 1mb memory, one floppy drive. Apple Extended Keyboard Apple Hard Disk 20SC (platinum) set to SCSI address 5 Apple 12" monochrome monitor Apple Video Card The software: System 4.1 Finder 5.5 Hard Disk SC Setup version 1.3 I don't have any strange startup software; the only INIT I have is for LaserSpeed (a LaserWriter print spooler). I suspect that this INIT *may* have caused the system error, but why? I've since un-installed it, but I'm not especially interested in risking the information on my hard disk again. I didn't actually lose anything, since I backed up the hard drive before moving it, but it is a real inconvenience to restore a hard disk; it takes a while. Can anyone offer help? Has anyone had a similar problem? I remember hearing about problems with early hard disks on the SE; is this possibly related? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. --Rich