Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!rutgers!sri-spam!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!A.ISI.EDU!PADLIPSKY From: PADLIPSKY@A.ISI.EDU (Michael Padlipsky) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Internet Uselessness Message-ID: <8707211421.AA06017@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: Tue, 21-Jul-87 10:03:10 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.8707211421.AA06017 Posted: Tue Jul 21 10:03:10 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Jul-87 01:47:29 EDT References:Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 21 Andy-- I certainly did NOT mean to imply that we aren't doing good engineering, merely that a bit more ruthlessness in extreme situations (which I attempted to euphemize as "clever engineering") might be in order. No intention whatsoever to minimize the efforts of the BBN troops who keep the subnet going, whom I don't recall picking on since '71, when the IMP's support for halfduplex interfaces wasn't as advertized. (Horror Story Number Five involved TENEX, of course, but that's not the subnet.) Will be looking forward to the forthcoming congestion control stuff. A quibble over "addressing information": any packet that contains the destination PSN number is addressed enough for me. My impression was (indeed, still is), though, that many/most X.25 subnets use the interface format with just the VC number for packets in flight. I'd be relieved to learn I'm wrong in general, and am delighted to infer from your msg that that isn't how it's done on our backbone. cheers, map -------