Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!columbia!rutgers!husc6!cmcl2!phri!bc-cis!pluto!warren From: warren@pluto.UUCP (Warren Burstein) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Hacker Scholarship Message-ID: <414@pluto.UUCP> Date: Sun, 19-Jul-87 18:01:22 EDT Article-I.D.: pluto.414 Posted: Sun Jul 19 18:01:22 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Jul-87 04:26:24 EDT References: <2757@mtgzz.UUCP> <345@genesis.UUCP> <2318@hoptoad.uucp> <234@wrs.UUCP> <1139@codas.ATT.COM> <1016@van-bc.UUCP> <246@wrs.UUCP> Reply-To: warren@pluto.UUCP (Warren Burstein) Organization: Industrial Automation Systems, New York, NY Lines: 30 In article <246@wrs.UUCP> dg@wrs.UUCP (David Goodenough) writes: Re: what crime does a hacker commit? >I would say that among others, Copyright law is very likely to be broken, >together with some law concerning privacy (4th. Amendment perhaps - forgive >me if I get it wrong: I'm Canadian, and we (Obviuosly) don't have the >U.S. Constitution, instead the Canadian Charter of Rights (Which incidentally >adds up to about the same effect)). Copyright law is only broken if the hacker copies something copyrighted from the system broken into, not if he/she takes anthing else or just mucks around. The US Constitution prevents the government from violating the privacy of a citizen, not one citizen of violating another's privacy. I would be surprised if it differs in Canada. To make hacking illegal would require specific legeslation. I remember hearing about a computer cribe bill a few years ago, don't know if it passed. I think it could have made you guilty of a crime if you stored your phone numbers on the company's computer without permission. Now if we only had cyberspace we could explain to the jury that the hacker was trespassing! -- /|/~\~~\ The entire world Warren Burstein |__/__/_/ is a very narrow carrot. | But the farmer philabs!tg!pluto!warren / is not afraid at all. Why doesn't life come with subtitles?