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From: lou@hoxna.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.admin
Subject: Me carrying *your* multi-megabyte-traffic,webber@brandx
Message-ID: <1501@hoxna.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 7-Jul-87 13:58:38 EDT
Article-I.D.: hoxna.1501
Posted: Tue Jul  7 13:58:38 1987
Date-Received: Thu, 9-Jul-87 06:36:23 EDT
References: <266@brandx.rutgers.edu> <16003@gatech.gatech.edu> <286@brandx.rutgers.edu>
Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel,N.J
Lines: 26
Keywords: WebberNet, not on *my* systems...
Xref: utgpu news.sysadmin:250 news.admin:564
Summary: You can 'force' a machine....

In article <286@brandx.rutgers.edu>, webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) writes:
> 
>       5) I believe that no machine can or should be forced to carry anything
>             it doesn't want to, but that the machine must develop ways of
>             determining what it does and doesn't want.  As long as we rely
>             on ``gentlemans's agreements'' there will always be disputes 
>             over proper and improper use of the net.

	As far as I know, the only way I can refuse to carry this 
"underground Usenet" stuff is to hack uucp not to accept traffic that
originates in certain places.  In a best case scenario, your nearest
network neighbors would refuse to talk to you after 2 weeks of multi-megabyte
UUCP transfers, thus saving us the trouble of not talking to them.

	Look, what this boils down to for me is I don't want to spend
any more money, time, resources, or aggravation on this "public network"
stuff.  Usenet is enough trouble; I have neither the money nor resources to
support (yet) another parallel network.  If a site persisted in sending 
megabytes of unwanted traffic through here, I'd have to stop talking to them.
If you really want a parallel network, form your own backbone.  I don't
want to have to forward your traffic.

                                                      Lou Marco
ps - WILL gordon.UUCP PLEASE FIX THEIR SOFTWARE !!
I've gotten 10,000 lines of "re: unconditional love"
crap; the messages are ~1000 lines of garbled headers.