Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!homxb!hoxna!lou From: lou@hoxna.UUCP Newsgroups: news.sysadmin,news.admin Subject: Me carrying *your* multi-megabyte-traffic,webber@brandx Message-ID: <1501@hoxna.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Jul-87 13:58:38 EDT Article-I.D.: hoxna.1501 Posted: Tue Jul 7 13:58:38 1987 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Jul-87 06:36:23 EDT References: <266@brandx.rutgers.edu> <16003@gatech.gatech.edu> <286@brandx.rutgers.edu> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel,N.J Lines: 26 Keywords: WebberNet, not on *my* systems... Xref: utgpu news.sysadmin:250 news.admin:564 Summary: You can 'force' a machine.... In article <286@brandx.rutgers.edu>, webber@brandx.rutgers.edu (Webber) writes: > > 5) I believe that no machine can or should be forced to carry anything > it doesn't want to, but that the machine must develop ways of > determining what it does and doesn't want. As long as we rely > on ``gentlemans's agreements'' there will always be disputes > over proper and improper use of the net. As far as I know, the only way I can refuse to carry this "underground Usenet" stuff is to hack uucp not to accept traffic that originates in certain places. In a best case scenario, your nearest network neighbors would refuse to talk to you after 2 weeks of multi-megabyte UUCP transfers, thus saving us the trouble of not talking to them. Look, what this boils down to for me is I don't want to spend any more money, time, resources, or aggravation on this "public network" stuff. Usenet is enough trouble; I have neither the money nor resources to support (yet) another parallel network. If a site persisted in sending megabytes of unwanted traffic through here, I'd have to stop talking to them. If you really want a parallel network, form your own backbone. I don't want to have to forward your traffic. Lou Marco ps - WILL gordon.UUCP PLEASE FIX THEIR SOFTWARE !! I've gotten 10,000 lines of "re: unconditional love" crap; the messages are ~1000 lines of garbled headers.