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Subject: RE: SYS$ANNOUNCE Logical Name Bug Or Feature
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Date: Thu, 23-Jul-87 07:32:00 EDT
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To The Great Zar (sic)

VAX/VMS System Manager's Reference Manual (V4.4)

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Section 2.3.11.1  SYS$ANNOUNCE

SYS$ANNOUNCE defines text to be printed whenever a user begins to log in; that 
is, the text is printed immediately after a successful dial-in, CTRL/Y, or 
RETURN is received. The text may consist of up to 63 characters. For longer 
messages, you can precede the name of a text-containing file with an at sign (@)
so that the login command procedure prints the entire file as an announcement.

For example, you could include a command of the following form in your 
SYSTARTUP.COM file:

$ DEFINE/SYSTEM SYS$ANNOUNCE "ENTER IF YOU DARE"

Or you might prefer to print a file:

$ DEFINE/SYSTEM SYS$ANNOUNCE "@SYS$MANAGER:ANNOUNCE.TXT"

If you do not define SYS$ANNOUNCE, no announcement is printed.
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We have a rule in my shop : If I find it in my manual it costs you $10.00, if I
I find it in your manual it's $50.00. Not only are you terrible conceded you 
also appear to very stupid (hopefully just naive). Those of us who have been
running VMS systems for a while usually try to consult the documentation before
yelling "SYS$ANNOUNCE logical name bug" or running to the net showing our 
stupidity. Then when we do find a legitimate problem unless it has a great
impact on other systems we simply and quietly fill out an SPR instead of trying
to show everyone how cute and clever we are. 

QUIT USING THE NETWORK AS A SUBSTITUTE FOR READING THE DOCUMENTATION SET.

I typically don't uncover mail bugs while sending mail to myself, nor do I want
to see the time of day in 47 thousand different languages. If you have so much
time on you hands. Try the orange binders!

"The Great Zar" is an oxymoron.


	Bob Wheeler
	Howard Hughes Medical Institute