Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!husc6!think!ames!sdcsvax!ucbvax!AI.AI.MIT.EDU!KFL From: KFL@AI.AI.MIT.EDU ("Keith F. Lynch") Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Hackers! Message-ID: <229147.870718.KFL@AI.AI.MIT.EDU> Date: Sat, 18-Jul-87 17:15:51 EDT Article-I.D.: AI.229147.870718.KFL Posted: Sat Jul 18 17:15:51 1987 Date-Received: Mon, 20-Jul-87 03:48:27 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Distribution: world Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 19 > From: WILLIAMS_B%svax05.pfizer-central-research.co.uk@Cs.Ucl.AC.UK > The trouble is, the word has now been corrupted... just as we can no > longer refer to anyone as gay, meaning lighthearted & carefree, ... > From: "VAXR::IVANOVIC"> I have always associated the term "hackers" with persons who > commit crimes ... write ... spaghetti code ... You may be right. It is too late for "gay", and for "liberal" (the original meaning). Even "minority" is threatened. I am going to defend "hacker" for another year, and then throw in the towel if it seems hopeless. What do you mean "always"? The computer usage isn't all that old. I "always" thought it was someone who drove a taxi. Where did you get the impression you did of the word "hacker"? I am curious. ...Keith