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From: fortin@iros1.UUCP
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: --- Can.French (Can.Francais?) ---
Message-ID: <225@Mannix.iros1.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 8-Jul-87 12:50:43 EDT
Article-I.D.: Mannix.225
Posted: Wed Jul  8 12:50:43 1987
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Reply-To: fortin@iros1.UUCP (Denis Fortin)
Distribution: can
Organization: Universite de Montreal
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Keywords: French, Bilingualism, new groups
Summary: A new group is officially requested

In article <5042@utcsri.UUCP> flaps@utcsri.UUCP (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>
>>There are French net.readers and there are English net.readers...
>>Since 99,9% of the net.news are in English, all readers must be able to
>         ^ (good thing I speak French numerals)

A quick (and totally unrelated) question: Isn't that standard in metric?   
And if so, isn't that supposed to be the standard in Canada these days?

>>understand a text written in English (I cannot imagine a person with no
>>knowledge of English at all sitting down at his/her terminal for
>>extended periods of time glancing at text that he/she cannot understand
>>at all).
>
>This is the whole point.  I think that those people with no knowledge
>of English should be allowed access to the net.  

I agree!  Since there are two "official languages" in Canada, I see
*absolutely no problem* with French postings to can.general!!!  (or
any other can.group for that matter)

However, I think that the issue of can.francais (or can.french, or
can.joual) is an entirely different issue: the can.francais group is
a separate newgroup where discussions on issues related to French in
Canada take place (how people are solving the problems of accents
on their computers, how easy it is to get an education in French in
such and such a part of the country, etc).

Therefore, creating can.francais does *not* imply that francophones
who have a point to make in can.general should not post there in French,
and it does *not* imply that anglophones who have a point to make 
about French in Canada cannot post in English in can.francais!!!

So...  I guess the proposal is as follows (where do you send proposals
for the creation of new newsgroups in Canada???):

	The creation of a new "canadian" newsgroup is proposed.
	Named can.francais (or can.French, I have no strong
	feelings about that), it would serve as a forum for
	people who want to discuss issues related to French in
	Canada (or actually, French in general).  As all other
	can.* groups, this would be a bilingual group (though
	somehow I guess one can expect a greater concentration
	of French in that group than in other can.groups).

Ok...  The official proposal is out.  What happens now?  (I guess
we discuss its usefulness for a while and then someone just 
creates the group!)

					Denis Fortin,
					fortin@iros1.UUCP