Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!gatech!bloom-beacon!think!ames!elroy!smeagol!jplgodo!wlbr!scgvaxd!stb!michael From: michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: all copy protection Message-ID: <1653@stb.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-Jul-87 13:23:32 EDT Article-I.D.: stb.1653 Posted: Fri Jul 17 13:23:32 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Jul-87 20:40:29 EDT References: <1303@crash.CTS.COM> <593@madvax.UUCP> <1813@vax135.UUCP> <1637@stb.UUCP> <1823@vax135.UUCP> Reply-To: michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) Organization: STB BBS, La, Ca, USA, 90402 Lines: 52 In article <1823@vax135.UUCP> cjp@vax135.UUCP (Charles Poirier) writes: >In article <1637@stb.UUCP> michael@stb.UUCP (Michael) writes: >"Stay even"; really! Salve, salve. "Value" meaning what it's >"worth" rather than than what you paid I guess. Do you truly believe >it's ok to steal things from people if you won't meet their price? I'd >like you pirates to think about this. Suppose it were you trying to >sell? Different people value things differently, but this is never >justification for theft. Exactly. "Value" is defined as "worth to the user". "Price" is "what they want". >>I personally find pirating to be a matter of respect. I have no respect any >>more for EA. I'd pirate anything they make in a minute if I thought they >>made anything worth the disk it would take up. Marble Madness was the > >This is thin salve indeed. You would punish EA by pirating if they >*improved* their products to a quality you approve of. This is exactly >what I was getting at in my "ethical Darwinism" barb. Sure, you are happy >to boycott what you don't like, but when the quality improves, do you >pay? (flame warning) NO! you PUNISH! (flame off). Too much stick, >not enough carrot. It's not ethical, and it doesn't promote higher quality >or lower prices. Ok, let me explain: Right now, the value (defined as meaning to me) of marble maddness is less than the value of a disk. That may change as I finish working about 30 or so fish disks and get another 20 blanks. So, I don't buy. If the value were a bit higher (say, $5) I still wouldn't buy, but I would pirate. If the value were as high as the price, then I'd buy. By improving quality, they cannot lose a sale. They can gain one, however. Start with the 6 items I listed. So far for the Amiga, I've bought (not received as presents) the Manx commercial system, Ageis Animator/images, a couple of Infocoms, the rrd, Gizmoz, probably a few others. I've never even tried to pirate Facc because I know what its worth. On the other hand, I can't buy it because every time I try it's sold out. > Charles Poirier (decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4,attmail)!vax135!cjp > > "Docking complete... Docking complete... Docking complete..." -- : Michael Gersten seismo!scgvaxd!stb!michael : Copy protection? Just say Pirate! (if its worth pirating)