Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!gatech!bloom-beacon!think!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!labrea!glacier!leeke From: leeke@glacier.STANFORD.EDU (Steven D. Leeke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: How do I write a Guided Tour Message-ID: <17128@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Sat, 11-Jul-87 10:43:41 EDT Article-I.D.: glacier.17128 Posted: Sat Jul 11 10:43:41 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Jul-87 16:08:34 EDT References: <3091@pucc.Princeton.EDU> <2512@husc6.UUCP> Reply-To: leeke@glacier.UUCP (Steven D. Leeke) Organization: Stanford University Lines: 58 In article <2512@husc6.UUCP> fry@huma1.UUCP (David Fry) writes: >... >The April Apple Programmer's and Developer's Association >calalogue lists product #KMSJGT, "Journalling and Guided >Tour," for $15.00. It claims to allow a non-programmer to >make the tours you want. NOTE: It says it requires MacDraw, >but I have no idea why. It can optionally use Macintalk for >speech synthesis, not included (but easily, legally, >obtained). >... I got a copy of the Guided Tour Tools from APDA recently and set out to do a guided tour for a beta release to our sponsors. So maybe some of the following will be useful to people. 1) The guided tour stuff from APDA is NOT the same (as far as I can tell) as what Apple used for the Mac II guided tour (the one I have) and I'll bet for the SE as well. The Apple one is far more advanced it seems - which seems logical. 2) MacDraw is needed because you draw your main screen with buttons in Draw and fill in a table on the same document telling the GT what to do when a button is hit. Save it in PICT format and the GT reads it in when it starts. 3) The GT tools seemed to work as advertised - but I could never get speech to work. I did not have Speech Tutor (I think that's the name), but the other tools I had could not save the phoneme speech as a resource correctly. I hacked a short program to save it, but I still couldn't get it to work. Anyway, since you have to rerecord a session when you add speech it can be very time consuming - PLANNING AHEAD IS A MUST IN GT DEVELOPMENT!! 4) You can also add dialogs to your GT, but after trying speech I realized that doing a good GT is a major piece of work - especially since you are trying to reach people who won't read between the lines (most likely) if you leave something out. I think if I were going to do a commercial one I would dream of doing anything other than what Apple did for the 512k/E/Plus - use a synch'd tape. The GT tools are setup to work well with tape and that's a lot easier than trying to stuff everything into the GT. In our case we would have run out of disk space even with a 800k disk since the GT can't deal with multiple disks or hard disks - so sys/finder/appl/gt all have to go on one disk. 5) MacinTalk v1.3 (in the APDA catalog but not in existence) is the one that is supposedly going to work on the SE/II, but since Apple doesn't sanction it officially I wouldn't use it for anything you don't want to have to redo substantially, if not completely, for a new machine. Hope this helps, Steve Leeke -- Steven D. Leeke, Center for Integrated Systems, Stanford University {ucbvax,decvax}!decwrl!glacier!leeke, leeke@glacier.stanford.edu "I suppose they don't use money in the 23rd century?"