Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!uwvax!oddjob!gargoyle!ihnp4!homxb!mhuxt!mhuxm!mhuxo!ulysses!faline!mike From: mike@faline.bellcore.com (Mike A. Caplinger) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Mac-style window managers in X? Message-ID: <684@faline.bellcore.com> Date: Mon, 13-Jul-87 14:50:54 EDT Article-I.D.: faline.684 Posted: Mon Jul 13 14:50:54 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Jul-87 05:16:44 EDT Lines: 20 Is there some accepted way to write a Mac-style window manager in X? That is, each window would be surrounded by a border containing controls to move, resize, delete, and iconify that particular window. I've studied the X11 protocol, but still don't see any way to do this short of: 1) forcing each application to link against a standard interface package, which blows the whole notion of separate window managers out of the water, or 2) possibly keeping track of all subwindow moves and resizes and manipulating the window hierarchy so as to imbed a newly created window inside a window- manager window providing the border controls. Neither of these options seems attractive. Am I missing something obvious, or is this kind of interface just hard to implement in X? Certainly I know of no current window manager that behaves that way, and I can't say I'm happy with the current window managers. Mike Caplinger mike@bellcore.com