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From: willc@tekchips.TEK.COM (Will Clinger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Coral Lisp???
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Date: Fri, 24-Jul-87 20:23:36 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 24 20:23:36 1987
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In article <119200003@iucs> kitchel@iucs.cs.indiana.edu writes:
>	There is a review of Coral CommonLisp, ObjectLogo and 
>MacScheme+Toolsmith in the most recent MacUser magazine.

No, the review was of ExperCommon Lisp (from Expertelligence),
Object Logo (from Coral Software), and MacScheme+Toolsmith (from
Semantic Microsystems).

>	The reviewer (if I recall correctly; maybe Ollie has
>read it too and can correct me) claims that the Coral product
>is not a full Common Lisp. This, of course, is not surprising.

ExperCommon Lisp is not full Common Lisp and differs from Common
Lisp in many important respects.  I have heard from people I trust
that Coral's product is real Common Lisp, with all of Common Lisp's
strengths and weaknesses.

>MacScheme comes off quite well in the review. It gives you
>everything that is claimed for it and more than you probably
>would expect, i.e. a nicer interface into the toolbox.

The reviewer's main complaints about MacScheme+Toolsmith were that
its interpreted code was slightly slower than the other two products'
native code and that there was no way to construct double-clickable
applications using it.  Both complaints are answered by Version 1.0,
which includes a high quality incremental native code compiler and an
Application Builder that allows double-clickable applications to be
created easily and distributed without royalties.  Version 1.0 will
be introduced at the MacWorld Expo in a few weeks.

The version reviewed was one of Version 0.8, 0.81, or 0.82.  Though
this was a preliminary version, whose owners are entitled to free
upgrades to Version 1.0, it still received "five mice" from MacUser.

>					Sid Kitchel
>					Computer Science Dept.
>					Indiana University

Peace,
William Clinger
formerly of the computer science department at Indiana University,
where he designed and constructed the system that became MacScheme;
with an acknowledged stake in the success of Semantic Microsystems,
he is now employed by the Tektronix Computer Research Laboratory.