Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!ubc-vision!van-bc!sl From: sl@van-bc.UUCP Newsgroups: can.general,news.misc,news.admin Subject: Re: uunet access from Canada Message-ID: <990@van-bc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 11-Jul-87 14:26:02 EDT Article-I.D.: van-bc.990 Posted: Sat Jul 11 14:26:02 1987 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Jul-87 07:35:10 EDT References: <954@van-bc.UUCP> <1477@ncc.UUCP> <959@van-bc.UUCP> <1480@ncc.UUCP> <967@van-bc.UUCP> <1911@lsuc.UUCP> Reply-To: sl@van-bc.UUCP (Stuart Lynne) Distribution: can Organization: Public Access Network, Vancouver, BC. Lines: 42 Xref: utgpu can.general:655 news.misc:613 news.admin:583 In article <1911@lsuc.UUCP> dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes: >In article <967@van-bc.UUCP> sl@van-bc.UUCP (Stuart Lynne) writes: >>>Which is rather strange given that ubc-vision is a backbone site. >>Yes, but almost all news comes in from Alberta, not from uw-beaver. >Isn't a backbone supposed to have redundant feeds to deal with ths >problem? In theory, if uw-beaver!ubc-vision is a backbone link, then >any news which doesn't come through the other link should find >its way in through that link. In theory this may be true, but ubc-vision gets virtually no news from uw-beaver. It is apparently used for mail. They also dial up seismo for mail on a demand basis (actually X.25). Whey the ihnp4/alberta link went down, the did get uw-beaver to turn on a limited number of news groups, comp, and news I think. The justification for this is simply the cost. >I know that in some cases this rule is honoured in the breach. At >mnetor, for example, they feed everything to seismo except things >which have already been to clyde and some other sites; which avoids >sending things back to the US that have already been there (and arrived >at mnetor through the backup clyde!watmath!water!utgpu!utzoo!mnetor). >This violates the rule in that it assumes that anything that has >been to clyde will otherwise make it to seismo on its own. Given >that cost of Datapac/U.S. gatewaying, I don't blame the mnetor >sysadmins for this; I'm just curious as to how much of this happens >on other feeds. Cost is definitely the problem. Which is precisely the reason for trying to convince Tymnet to let us access UUNET for $3.00 US / hour. Brings the cost of a full feed to under $300 per month. We could then see one or two more full feeds into Canada. -- {ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision,uunet}!van-bc!Stuart.Lynne Vancouver,BC,604-937-7532