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From: csrobe@wmcs.UUCP (Chip Roberson)
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Subject: Re: Lots of questions
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>From: mcvax!diku!jesper@seismo.css.gov  (Jesper L. Lauritsen)
>Subject: Lots of questions


>I have finally decided to purchase an Atari ST 

Brave decision.

>and now have some questions and requests for software....

>2)  What harddisks exist for the ST, and what are there prices?

	SUPRA 20meg		$549.99
	ATARI 20meg		$549.99
(can you guys guess where i found these prices?)

>3)  What C compiler should I get? I now that such questions may start religious
>    wars, so I will put up some characteristics of the compiler I am looking
>    for:

I vote for Mark Williams C.  ($129.99)  It is a whole system including
a unix-like shell, 4 pass compiler (unlike MegaMax which is 2 pass, this
one comes with pre-processor, parser, code generator, disassembler),
many unix utilities, and excellent support!  On floppy disks it is slow,
but with a hard disk and a ram disk, time is negligible.  It has
incorporated some of the dpANSI standard (void, enum and structure
assignment).  It comes with the Make discipline, emacs with source
(their flavor, but still nice),  it does not have a Resource Construction
Set, yet, but I have it first hand from MWC that they are working on
delivering one soon.  You cannot write inline assembler, but linking
in your own assembler routines is trivial.  I'm not sure what you
meant by "(UNIX) stdio library". They have several unix functions,
plus everything that is defined in the K&R de facto standard.  Now
if they only had function prototypes.  (or C++ would be even better)!


>5)  Does anybody know of a free/cheap ANSI terminal emulator? VT100 will do
>    but not VT52. Tektronix 4014 emulation would be nice. Sources preferred.

YES! Uniterm.  It's marvelous.  [Thank you Simon Poole]

>6)  Will someone please offer to send Kermit? Sources preferred. A Kermit with
>    VT100 emulation and perhaps even Tektronix 4014 emulation would be wonder-
>    full.

YES! Uniterm, again.  It's still marvelous.  [Way to go, Simon]

>7)  Has anybody ported Xlisp to the ST? Sources preferred.

You can get XLISP (v 1.7 with source) [#98] and Uniterm (v 1.7b) [#88]
for $4 each plus $1 for every six disks order from:

	Current Notes Library
	122 N. Johnson Rd
	Sterling, VA  22170

You might be able to get a newer version of Uniterm from a LISTSERVer
or some other host on the net.  I know listserv@canada01.bitnet has
a copy, but i don't know what version.

>9)  Any other freeware you think every newcomer should get?

Ask for a list from Current Notes.  I find ARChive, Uniterm, UU*CODE,
to be a must.  I am just starting to look at UUCICO.

>10) Does there exist any good introductions to (C) programming on the ST that
>    don't spend most of the pages to teach programming in general?

You might try Compute!'s ST Applications Guide:  Programming in C.
$19.95.  It also comes with a disk for an extra $16.95.

Write to:
		COMPUTE!'S ST Applications Guide and Disk
		COMPUTE! Publications
		P.O. Box 5038 
		F.D.R. Station
		New York, NY  10150

>Jesper L. Lauritsen, U. of Copenhagen, Denmark
>email: jesper@diku.UUCP  (old uucp mailers: ...!mcvax!diku!jesper)

I visited the Collegium in Copenhagen about this time last year and
I thought your city was beautiful.  Very nice people, too!  Your
schnapps was a bit too rough for me, but that Carlsberg beer was
some of the best.  Skol!

-chip
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