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From: bub@rlgvax.UUCP ( Mongo Mauler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: Whaddaya do with the damned thing?
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Date: Fri, 9-Jan-87 09:43:06 EST
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Posted: Fri Jan  9 09:43:06 1987
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> >	Well, I'm ashamed to admit it:  I've been using a C64, a C128,
> >	and an IBM PC clone for quite a while now, and I have lately
> >	discovered my CBM equipment is gathering dust except when I get
> >	a games jones.  I use the PC almost exclusively now. 
> >	I hate to admit it, but I almost am beginning to feel that the
> >	'Real PC' snobs have been right all along.  My CBM machines are
> >	nice 'toy' computers, but for any real computing, you need to
> >	go with the big boys.
> 
> I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The C64 and C128 are a
> different class of machines than the PC clones. They have 8 bit uP, and
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> So, I think before you rag on CBM for not comparing favorably to the PC,
> you should take a look at the Amiga. And let your C64 sit for those days
> when you feel like playing some games. That's what I do, and, after all,
> the 64 has more games than any other computer on the market!
> 
> Ali Ozer, ali@navajo.stanford.edu

 	I'm really don't want to rag the 64 or 128, and I certainly
	realize these machines are in a different class than the PC
	and clones, and I am definitely not interested in purchasing
	yet another system (even though you can now buy a fairly
	decent PC Clone system for about what my 128 system cost me
	a year and a half ago, and certainly less than what an Amiga
	system goes for).

	What I am really interested in is what my fellow CBM users
	consider the 'great' software they own, and/or some of the
	things they have put their machine to work on (like temp
	monitoring, thermostatic control, jump starting your car,
	etc.).

	I guess we could also go into what business/productivity/
	programming/utility software we have tried that we found
	unacceptable.  For instance, some of the things I am most
	disappointed with:

		C Compiler		Abacus Software
		Pascal			    ditto
		Write Now Word Proc.	  (I forget)
		etc.

	Some of the software I enjoy using (and can actually get
	some 'real' work done with):

		128 BASIC 7.0		CBM (great job, Commodore!)
		BASIC Compiler		Abacus Software
		Speedscript WP		COMPUTE! Publications
		Simon's BASIC		CBM
		COMAL			Public Domain
		etc.

	What about the rest of you?  I hear C-Power is a good
	system to work with, PROMAL is the greatest thing since
	sliced bread, etc.  And, what about the new software
	now available for the 128?  Anyone using these offerings
	care to comment of what you like/dislike?