Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cuae2!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtune!mtunf!mtx5c!mtx5d!mtx5a!mat From: mat@mtx5a.UUCP Newsgroups: misc.legal,comp.edu Subject: Re: Re: Sorry - Independent contractors and the law Message-ID: <1712@mtx5a.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Jan-87 17:04:31 EST Article-I.D.: mtx5a.1712 Posted: Fri Jan 9 17:04:31 1987 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Jan-87 06:27:24 EST References: <2352@mtuxo.UUCP> <488@unc.unc.UUCP> <795@maynard.BSW.COM> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Middletown, NJ 07748-4801. Lines: 33 Xref: watmath misc.legal:481 comp.edu:41 > ... > If you don't "*want*" to be an employee of the body shop, do business in a > manner that suggests you are truly independent, rather than "on-call". > BTW: a secondary reason for the new law may be to try to protect technical > people from unreasonable denial of ordinary benefits (e.g. vacation, sick > leave, retirement plans). I know of several companies that have used > "consultants" full time for an extended period, but have not given them > the benefits of employees. Let me point out that there are a lot of people who don't *want* some benefit or another, or who can never use it. If you are a sole proprietor you'll never collect Unemployment. Why should you pay for it? (To make matters worse, in some states strikers collect Unemployment for walking off their jobs.) What if you don't want to pay for a salesman, and are willing to take the risks (downtime, loss of work, etc) that come with being in business for yourself? The old way seems fairer to me. Given the suspicious conditions under which this piece of legislation was pushed through, I can only conclude that someone was trying to play games with Bedfellow Moynihan. It's been said that we have the best legislators that money can buy. There's something else: this law applies to engineers, and presumably to PEs. Licensed Professional Engineers have a responsibility to the public safety; will this compromise their independence? -- from Mole End Mark Terribile (scrape .. dig ) mtx5b!mat (Please mail to mtx5b!mat, NOT mtx5a! mat, or to mtx5a!mtx5b!mat) (mtx5b!mole-end!mat will also reach me) ,.. .,, ,,, ..,***_*.