Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!styx!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!EDDIE.MIT.EDU!Love-Hounds-request From: Love-Hounds-request@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Newsgroups: mod.music.gaffa Subject: Re: Nancy's friend's first Kate-echism (III.xii.19) Message-ID: <8612210042.AA07505@zeus.CS.UCLA.EDU> Date: Sat, 20-Dec-86 19:42:07 EST Article-I.D.: zeus.8612210042.AA07505 Posted: Sat Dec 20 19:42:07 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 20-Dec-86 22:45:17 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: Love-Hounds@EDDIE.MIT.EDU Organization: The ARPA Internet Lines: 60 Approved: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Really-From: kyle@CS.UCLA.EDU >Date: Fri, 19 Dec 86 14:27 PST >From: IED0DXM%UCLAMVS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU >Subject: Re: Nancy's friend's first Kate-echism (III.xii.19) > >Seriously, though, Kevin... If, as IED assumes, WHy the hell do you refer to yourself in the third person? >Despite frequent attempts >to alter his vocal style and timbre, he >inevitably sounds like himself, and, as >a result, his stylistic changes fail to >make any substantive difference in the music. And who/what does Kate sound like? I've been able peg her everytime I heard her. >Kate Bush, on the other hand, has what one might call >a kind of "Rorschach" voice: the actual >physical vocal timbre of her voice is >quite classic and pure -- a less flattering >way to describe it would be "anonymous". I see she sounds like a "nobody". You said it not me! >To put it another way, >Kate's voice is to Costello's >as a Stradivarius is to a banjo. >the former is the product of centuries >of cultural refinement, honed to a >level of finish that defies the mundane >plane of our mortal existence; the >latter is a crude, innately vulgar >contraption fashioned over a few years >of rustic sub-culture, incapable of >escaping its own limited range of sound, >and ultimately reflecting nothing except >itself. And what does a Stradavarius reflect? You're starting to sound like an Ethno-centric European. You know Hitler would have agreed with you. >Your mistake, Kevin, is in approaching Kate's music with "expectations" >of any kind. Especially if those expectations are that audible >music (what other kind is there?) be "organismically appropriate," >a meaningless term if ever there was one. > >-- Andrew Marvick Andy, I'll have to agree with you here. One should not listen to her music with expectations, but rather with reservations. Joe Slime CO: kyle@zeus.cs.ucla.edu