Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!decwrl!labrea!navajo!ali From: ali@navajo.STANFORD.EDU (Ali Ozer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Whaddaya do with the damned thing? Message-ID: <1273@navajo.STANFORD.EDU> Date: Wed, 7-Jan-87 14:48:59 EST Article-I.D.: navajo.1273 Posted: Wed Jan 7 14:48:59 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Jan-87 23:59:25 EST References: <310@rlgvax.UUCP> Reply-To: ali@navajo.UUCP (Ali Ozer) Organization: Stanford University Lines: 38 In article <310@rlgvax.UUCP> bub@rlgvax.UUCP ( Mongo Mauler) writes: > > Well, I'm ashamed to admit it: I've been using a C64, a C128, > and an IBM PC clone for quite a while now, and I have lately > discovered my CBM equipment is gathering dust except when I get > a games jones. I use the PC almost exclusively now. > > I hate to admit it, but I almost am beginning to feel that the > 'Real PC' snobs have been right all along. My CBM machines are > nice 'toy' computers, but for any real computing, you need to > go with the big boys. > I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The C64 and C128 are a different class of machines than the PC clones. They have 8 bit uP, and smaller address space, and a OS originally not even meant for disks! Of course, you pay a much lower price, and I think the C64 and the C128 are great machines for your money. But because of the limitations, you are never going to be able to get a language or compiler or database that is as good or as fast as those on the PC's. So it seems normal to me that if most of your applications are business oriented and you have to choose between the 64, the 128, and the PC clone, you choose the PC. Of course, there is one more choice that Commodore provides: The Amiga. It sells for less than the PC and most clones, and it blows the PC away. Just like I would choose the PC over the 64 for any serious database or programming work, I would similarly choose the Amiga over the PC. There's now a lot of software available (including many languages, databases, etc), and with the Sidecar peripheral, you can run all IBM programs on the Amiga. And of course you also get stereo sound, multitasking (it's very nice to be able to edit a program while also compiling another), wonderful graphics... So, I think before you rag on CBM for not comparing favorably to the PC, you should take a look at the Amiga. And let your C64 sit for those days when you feel like playing some games. That's what I do, and, after all, the 64 has more games than any other computer on the market! Ali Ozer, ali@navajo.stanford.edu