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From: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: MacApp Sources...
Message-ID: <1321@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>
Date: Wed, 10-Dec-86 16:02:52 EST
Article-I.D.: cit-vax.1321
Posted: Wed Dec 10 16:02:52 1986
Date-Received: Sun, 14-Dec-86 06:46:24 EST
References:  <364@apple.UUCP> <20@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu>
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Reply-To: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Pierce T. Wetter)
Organization: Calfornia Institute of Technology
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Keywords: MacApp Professional Developers


In article <20@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu> you write:
>
>| MPW and MacApp are not intended for everyone.  They are simply other
>| alternatives for Macintosh programmers.  I think that other third party
>| products address the needs of the "kitchen-table" developers very well,
>| while MPW and MacApp address the needs of professional developers.
>| 
>| We would like to make MacApp available in other development systems, and
>| have been working with third parties to make this happen.
>
>I don't understand why "professional" developers need MPW and MacApp and
>"kitchen-table" developers don't.  No third party products provide the high
>level of support for the Mac user interface as does MacApp.  If the
>"professional" needs this level of support, then why doesn't the "kitchen-
>table" developer?  Is it that the "kitchen-table" developers are smarter,
>better programmers?  Or is it that Apple just doesn't care about them,
>because they are less likely to directly help Apple sell Macs?

    From the acticle you quoted "We have been working with third parties to
make this happen".  In the article where he talks about the needs of kitchen 
 vs provessional devlopers he is refering to MPW more then MacAPP. MPW is not
 intended
for the average user turned programmer 
it is intended for someone familar with the traditional command line development
enivirionment (and god forbid likes it, bleh!). MPW in not easy to use but it is incredibly powerful. Not all of
the power of MPW is needed for MacAPP, only an object pascal compiler. Thus
apple is trying to get third party compilers to suppor object pascal. Then the
"kitchen table" developer can use MacAPP without having to resort to the more
complete envirionment of MPW. As for the rest of your comments about whether
Apple cares about the "kitchen table" developers, well I'll take them for what
they are worth....

   Pierce Wetter

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