Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!sundc!rlgvax!bub From: bub@rlgvax.UUCP ( Mongo Mauler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Whaddaya do with the damned thing? Message-ID: <320@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Jan-87 09:43:06 EST Article-I.D.: rlgvax.320 Posted: Fri Jan 9 09:43:06 1987 Date-Received: Fri, 9-Jan-87 23:55:51 EST References: <310@rlgvax.UUCP> <1273@navajo.STANFORD.EDU> Organization: Computer Consoles Inc, Reston VA Lines: 60 > > Well, I'm ashamed to admit it: I've been using a C64, a C128, > > and an IBM PC clone for quite a while now, and I have lately > > discovered my CBM equipment is gathering dust except when I get > > a games jones. I use the PC almost exclusively now. > > I hate to admit it, but I almost am beginning to feel that the > > 'Real PC' snobs have been right all along. My CBM machines are > > nice 'toy' computers, but for any real computing, you need to > > go with the big boys. > > I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The C64 and C128 are a > different class of machines than the PC clones. They have 8 bit uP, and . . . > So, I think before you rag on CBM for not comparing favorably to the PC, > you should take a look at the Amiga. And let your C64 sit for those days > when you feel like playing some games. That's what I do, and, after all, > the 64 has more games than any other computer on the market! > > Ali Ozer, ali@navajo.stanford.edu I'm really don't want to rag the 64 or 128, and I certainly realize these machines are in a different class than the PC and clones, and I am definitely not interested in purchasing yet another system (even though you can now buy a fairly decent PC Clone system for about what my 128 system cost me a year and a half ago, and certainly less than what an Amiga system goes for). What I am really interested in is what my fellow CBM users consider the 'great' software they own, and/or some of the things they have put their machine to work on (like temp monitoring, thermostatic control, jump starting your car, etc.). I guess we could also go into what business/productivity/ programming/utility software we have tried that we found unacceptable. For instance, some of the things I am most disappointed with: C Compiler Abacus Software Pascal ditto Write Now Word Proc. (I forget) etc. Some of the software I enjoy using (and can actually get some 'real' work done with): 128 BASIC 7.0 CBM (great job, Commodore!) BASIC Compiler Abacus Software Speedscript WP COMPUTE! Publications Simon's BASIC CBM COMAL Public Domain etc. What about the rest of you? I hear C-Power is a good system to work with, PROMAL is the greatest thing since sliced bread, etc. And, what about the new software now available for the 128? Anyone using these offerings care to comment of what you like/dislike?