Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utegc!utai!ubc-vision!mprvaxa!acton From: acton@mprvaxa.UUCP Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Make the rich pay? Message-ID: <826@mprvaxa.UUCP> Date: Sat, 13-Dec-86 20:41:54 EST Article-I.D.: mprvaxa.826 Posted: Sat Dec 13 20:41:54 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Dec-86 01:34:28 EST References: <2819@watdcsu.UUCP> <708@looking.UUCP> Reply-To: acton@mprvaxa.UUCP (Don Acton) Distribution: can Organization: Microtel Pacific Research, Burnaby, B.C., Canada Lines: 34 In article <3764@utcsri.UUCP> clarke@utcsri.UUCP (Jim Clarke) writes: > >In article <2840@watdcsu.UUCP> brewster@watdcsu.UUCP writes: > (in response to my posting) >> You seem to assume that there is an automatic right for people to >> expect to receive unemployment and welfare. > I sure do, only I'd phrase it as "a right to food, clothing, > shelter and education". Education's not usually on that list, > but we acknowledged that right in the nineteenth century when > we brought in free schooling. Daycare is education. Daycare is education? I think that is really stretching things. Just about everything is an educational experience. For example working on a farm, having a newspaper route, or visiting a hooker are all, no doubt, very educational experiences but that doesn't mean the government should pay for them. The most disconcerting part about your posting is that you say these things should be rights. Rights should imply obligations but there is no suggestion on your part that people have any obligations at all and when my tax dollars are concerned that chokes me up a bit. I would like to think that if I do things through my tax dollars for people that they do something for society in return. For example if we pay someone welfare then they have the obligation to use it to buy food, shelter and clothing and not to booze it away. Likewise I expect people on UIC to be looking for jobs and not seeing how long they can collect before it runs out and they start "really" looking for work. This I think just accentuates the point brewster@watdscu was trying to make when he asked what was wrong with Canada. Everyone seems to want a free lunch but they forget that in the end someone has to pay. Unfortunately the Canadian government seems to have forgotten that someone has to pay too and they have continued to promise anything and everything to anyone. Donald Acton