Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!wetter From: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: MacApp Sources... Message-ID: <1321@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: Wed, 10-Dec-86 16:02:52 EST Article-I.D.: cit-vax.1321 Posted: Wed Dec 10 16:02:52 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 14-Dec-86 06:46:24 EST References:<364@apple.UUCP> <20@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu> Sender: news@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu Reply-To: wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (Pierce T. Wetter) Organization: Calfornia Institute of Technology Lines: 49 Keywords: MacApp Professional Developers In article <20@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu> you write: > >| MPW and MacApp are not intended for everyone. They are simply other >| alternatives for Macintosh programmers. I think that other third party >| products address the needs of the "kitchen-table" developers very well, >| while MPW and MacApp address the needs of professional developers. >| >| We would like to make MacApp available in other development systems, and >| have been working with third parties to make this happen. > >I don't understand why "professional" developers need MPW and MacApp and >"kitchen-table" developers don't. No third party products provide the high >level of support for the Mac user interface as does MacApp. If the >"professional" needs this level of support, then why doesn't the "kitchen- >table" developer? Is it that the "kitchen-table" developers are smarter, >better programmers? Or is it that Apple just doesn't care about them, >because they are less likely to directly help Apple sell Macs? From the acticle you quoted "We have been working with third parties to make this happen". In the article where he talks about the needs of kitchen vs provessional devlopers he is refering to MPW more then MacAPP. MPW is not intended for the average user turned programmer it is intended for someone familar with the traditional command line development enivirionment (and god forbid likes it, bleh!). MPW in not easy to use but it is incredibly powerful. Not all of the power of MPW is needed for MacAPP, only an object pascal compiler. Thus apple is trying to get third party compilers to suppor object pascal. Then the "kitchen table" developer can use MacAPP without having to resort to the more complete envirionment of MPW. As for the rest of your comments about whether Apple cares about the "kitchen table" developers, well I'll take them for what they are worth.... Pierce Wetter Reclaimer, spare that tree! Take not a single bit! It used to point to me, Now I'm protecting it. It was the reader's CONS That made it, paired by dot; Now, GC, for the nonce, Thou shalt reclaim it not. -------------------------------------------- wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu --------------------------------------------