Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-lcc!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!eris!mwm From: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Proposal for an Amiga Shell Message-ID: <2106@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Wed, 7-Jan-87 03:11:37 EST Article-I.D.: jade.2106 Posted: Wed Jan 7 03:11:37 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Jan-87 18:44:34 EST References: <8701031030.AA23133@cory.Berkeley.EDU> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 48 In article <8701031030.AA23133@cory.Berkeley.EDU> dillon@CORY.BERKELEY.EDU (Matt Dillon) writes: > For Sure, it's cute, but not completely practical. Customization >Aside, my major complaint about such a system is simply that it's too >cluttered. Three windows? One of the several terminal programs I wrote >had two windows ... a 'terminal' window and a 'command' window, and I can >tell you that I got rather tired of the 'command' window. Actually, normal use would have two windows - the input window and one of the two flavors of output window. That may be an annoyance; have to try it and see. I can't really see how it would be much worse than say dpaint with the menu/gadget bar. > keywords also slows me down... I don't want to be forced to type >long drawn out english keywords for commands. Shell's were never meant >to be user friendly. That's why the shell will autocomplete keywords for you. Of course, you can also just customize things so you get positional parameters for everything. Even commands that REQUIRE keywords; you'd say: required from keword "from=" in the ms.description file, and the shell would supply the keyword for you. I thought I explained that in the paper. > So I think maybe it would make a good idiot-box. As far as I'm >concerned it goes into my "It works in Theory, but not in practice" folder. Probably correct. I'd like to see people who are doing shells start thinking about such things, though. Zing is the only thing I know of that really tried. Gotta see about getting a copy of it to play with sometime soon. Of course, if I get done with all the other interesting-looking things I want to do, or get motivated, I may sit down and do the thing myself anyway. >Oh, P.S. I am definately *NOT* saying that my Shell is real, it isn't. >I have yet to see any shell that efficiently integrates keyboard, mouse, and >graphics screen with the power of shell scripts, aliases, and file/command >completion. I didn't think your shell did file/command completion. Ms has aliases, and maybe a little better. Shell scripts (even to the level of the v6 shell) it don't got. Gotta consider how to do that kind of thing.... Thanx,