Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utegc!utai!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews From: andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Make the rich pay? Message-ID: <628@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Dec-86 19:08:12 EST Article-I.D.: ubc-cs.628 Posted: Mon Dec 15 19:08:12 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Dec-86 22:25:57 EST References: <826@mprvaxa.UUCP> Reply-To: andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) Distribution: can Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 42 Summary: why not In article <826@mprvaxa.UUCP> acton@mprvaxa.UUCP (Don Acton) writes: >Daycare is education? I think that is really stretching things. Just >about everything is an educational experience.... I would agree that there are various ways in which daycare cannot be considered to be education. However, I think Jim's comparison is still valid. At one time, education was considered something which you either had to pay for or do at home. The more money your family had, the better your education was, and therefore the better job you got. Clearly, this was a major part of the cycle of poverty. Now that there are fewer and fewer families who can afford to keep one person at home to take care of the kids, it seems like the same argument applies to daycare. Either someone stays home and the family lives in poverty, or someone does part-time work and neglects the kids, or the family finds some daycare that is cheap enough (and therefore bad enough) to justify someone working full-time at the highest-paying job they can get. In any case, the kids are trapped in a cycle of disadvantage. The word "rights" has been used so loosely in the last few years that I don't know what the colloquial usage is anymore. So I wouldn't say subsidized daycare is a "right", but I would say that it's a very good idea, given today's economic realities. I would assume that it would be paid for by property taxes, or whatever it is that pays for education now. If you argue with this, do you also argue with subsidized schools? > ... Everyone seems to want a free lunch but they >forget that in the end someone has to pay.... I think the main thing that's wrong now is that everyone wants the best for themselves and doesn't care about anyone else. That certainly applies to welfare freeloaders. But it also applies to rich, well-educated people who want to deny their so-called "hard-earned money" to people who just haven't had the advantages they have. --Jamie. ...!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!andrews "L'amour, c'est si simple"