Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!rutgers!mit-eddie!bu-cs!celtics!roger From: roger@celtics.UUCP Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: Abuses of the net Message-ID: <1365@celtics.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Dec-86 15:35:48 EST Article-I.D.: celtics.1365 Posted: Wed Dec 10 15:35:48 1986 Date-Received: Sun, 14-Dec-86 08:33:48 EST References: <8612080908.AA08813@jade.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger Klorese) Organization: Celerity Computing (Eastern Region), Framingham, MA Lines: 43 In article <8612080908.AA08813@jade.berkeley.edu> eyal@wisdom.BITNET (Eyal mozes) writes: >In article <485@cartan.Berkeley.EDU> desj@brahms (David desJardins) writes: >> I would very much like to see a *single* quote supporting your >>statement that Mr. Ellis has proposed that Objectivists should "be removed >>from the newsgroup." > >The following is takes from article <424@cartan.Berkeley.EDU>, one of >Mr. Ellis' recent postings to talk.philosophy.misc: > >> Personally, I don't "oppose" Randroidism any more than I oppose Christian >> Science or Krishna Consciousness. I just don't think that net.philosophy >> is the place for the dissemination of propaganda for cults or ideologies. >> >> Note how you guys insist on seeing philosophy in strictly "us-versus-them" >> terms -- that's why you are unable to discuss philosophical issues >> in a rational, objective way -- your minds are clouded by "volitional >> commitment" that your puerile beliefs be true -- and that's why you >> people do not belong here. >> >> Get your propaganda out of here and into talk.religion or talk.politics >> where it belongs. > I can fiercely believe that "x" does not belong here, ask "x" to leave... in fact, demand that "x" leave... and that is not the same as demanding that "x" be removed. You and your fellow True Believers can act on that request, or not... no matter how often it is repeated, and by how many, in in what language. But you clearly have a fundamental misunderstanding of the English language if you think the quote you offered supports your attack on Mr. Ellis. -- =================================== "Speak for the company?! Gee, I have a hard enough time speaking for myself!" ==================== Roger B.A. Klorese | ///==\\ | Celerity Computing (Eastern Region) | /// | 40 Speen St., Framingham, MA 01701 +1 617 872-1552 | \\\ | | \\\==// | celerity!rklorese@sdcsvax.ARPA (sdcsvax!celerity!rklorese) ==================== celtics!roger@seismo.CSS.GOV (seismo!celtics!roger)