Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!ames!ucla-cs!sdcrdcf!psivax!csun!polyslo!csustan!elric From: elric@csustan.UUCP (Elric of Imrryr) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: touchtone dialing always works Message-ID: <323@csustan.UUCP> Date: Sat, 13-Dec-86 01:09:53 EST Article-I.D.: csustan.323 Posted: Sat Dec 13 01:09:53 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Dec-86 00:58:56 EST References: <750@sdcc12.ucsd.EDU> Reply-To: elric@csustan.UUCP (Elric of Imrryr) Distribution: na Organization: Lunatic Laboratories Unltd. Lines: 27 In article <750@sdcc12.ucsd.EDU> wa371@sdcc12.ucsd.EDU (Bernd Riechelmann) writes: >Whenever I order telephone service installed, the phone company asks >if I want to have Touchtone service (for an extra charge.) >I have learned to politely refuse this feature , because Touchtone always >works, whether ordered or not. >Bernard>UUCP: ...!sdcsvax!sdcc12!wa371, Internet: wa371%sdcc12@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu This may be due to the way which Touch Tone (TT) is enabled or disable by your local RBOC. If you have a non TT line your TIP & RING lines may be '+' and '-' respectably. When you request TT they reverse the polarity and then your TT AT&T phones will dial. Some new phones, and most modems ignore the line polarity. One company put out a device that replaces the mouth piece on a standard phone, with a TT keypad. I heard Pacfic Telesis (PT&T) used to just add TT charges to your bill, but I doubt they will try that again, after all the flack they got for signing people up for call waiting and other junk without asking them first. I wonder if using a TT phone, on a non TT line is toll fraud? Brad. -- elric Lunatic Labs @ Csustan {lll-crg,lll-lcc}!csustan!elric cryptography, terrorist, DES, drugs, cipher, secret, decode, AUTOVON NSA, CIA, NRO, KGB, GRU, Mossad, Libyan Hit Squad, assassination, OSI. The above is food for the Intelligence Agencies of the World.