Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!sdcsvax!sdcc6!calmasd!dbm From: dbm@calmasd.CALMA.UUCP (Brian Millar) Newsgroups: comp.cog-eng,comp.ai Subject: mind modeling Message-ID: <2127@calmasd.CALMA.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Jan-87 22:28:09 EST Article-I.D.: calmasd.2127 Posted: Tue Jan 6 22:28:09 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Jan-87 21:54:06 EST Organization: G.E. CALMA R&D, San Diego, CA Lines: 13 Keywords: mind, subjective, objective Xref: mnetor comp.cog-eng:28 comp.ai:133 I believe Stevan Harnad when he says he has a mind. The alternative theory is that a mindless automaton is telling me. How well does that fit with the preponderance of data? Very poorly, considering that no AI program can yet generate the kind of complex & original testimony he exhibits (despite his being restricted to text displays). Therefore the rational, scientific model for me to hold is that he has a mind with subjective awareness just as I do. Point: Testimony about subjective experience is a valid type of data upon which reasonable scientific models of mind can be based. The highly regular data which has accumulated in the area of perception is almost entirely this type.