Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!lll-crg!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU!fair From: fair@ucbarpa.Berkeley.EDU (Erik E. Fair) Newsgroups: news.misc Subject: Re: Abuses of the net Message-ID: <16637@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Mon, 15-Dec-86 13:50:55 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.16637 Posted: Mon Dec 15 13:50:55 1986 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Dec-86 21:31:04 EST References: <21062@styx.UUCP> <678@uwmacc.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 27 Summary: OK, so what do you want *us* to do about it? Enough already! If the lot of you wanted the attention of system administrators network wide, you've got it. Now that you have it, what do you want us to do? I've been watching this debate since Mr. Harnad started it, and I fail to see why it continues in this forum for any other reason than inertia. I have seen no call to remove the "brahms gang" from the network, and even if there had been such a request presented here, I have seen no evidence supporting such an action on my part. All I see is some mild name calling and finger pointing. For those of you who have been insulted in one way or another, I'm sorry, but that's not cause for positive action on the part of the network admins. Neither is the use of scatalogical words and phrases. As I recently noted elsewhere, the USENET may be viewed as a highway system, and you all have mistaken the admins for the highway patrol. Wrong. We're the highway construction crew. There is *no* highway patrol. We only act when damage to the highway would result from our inaction (and even then, getting concerted action means convincing the entire crew that it would be a good thing to do!). So, if there are specific requests for network adminstrative action, please present them. If all you want to do is debate who said what to whom and why, then please take it back to talk.philosophy.misc or talk.religion or whatever /dev/null is called today... keeper of the network news on ucbvax, Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu