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From: miner@SPAM.ISTC.SRI.COM (Stephen E. Miner)
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Subject: Re: Lisp for Mac
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Date: Wed, 10-Dec-86 11:09:36 EST
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This message is in response to Peter Wisnovsky's request for
information about a Lisp for the Macintosh.  I couldn't send mail
directly to him so I'm reposting a message I recently sent to the
INFO-MAC list.

-- Steve


[from INFO-MAC]

I just received the latest ExperNewsletter in the mail.  The big news
is that ExperTelligence has announced ExperCommon Lisp.  (This is the
new name for the long-awaited ExperLisp 2.0.)  They plan to begin
shipping in about a week to people who ordered upgrades to the
original ExperLisp.  Actually, they want registered owners to
re-register by filling out a new address card that comes with the
newsletter.  (Maybe they're trying to stall for a little extra time?)
They told me over the phone that they just want to make sure that they
have the correct addresses.  OK, so I'll have to wait a couple of more
weeks.

Here are some of the promises that have me interested:
  * Common Lisp compatibility
  * an extensible class system (for object-oriented programming)
  * Toolbox support through predefined classes
  * on-line symbolic debugger
  * support for "stand alone" applications
  * not copy-protected (since version 1.5)
 
I have to admit that I was quite disappointed by all of the bugs I
found in the old versions of ExperLisp, but I'm still hoping that this
new version succeeds.  If anyone has any experience with ExperCommon
Lisp, I'd like to hear from you.

I have a hard time figuring out their marketing and pricing strategies
so please call them directly if you're interested.  Basically, it's
pretty expensive even after you talk them into giving you a discount.
 
ExperTelligence can be reached by phone at:
        (800) 828-0113 USA
        (800) 826-6144 CA


-- Steve Miner

miner@spam.istc.sri.com