Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!amdahl!kim From: kim@amdahl.UUCP (Kim DeVaughn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: JForth (Delta Research replies) Message-ID: <5139@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Jan-87 07:32:57 EST Article-I.D.: amdahl.5139 Posted: Wed Jan 14 07:32:57 1987 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Jan-87 20:22:36 EST Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 Lines: 65 Keywords: JForth copyright Italy forth [ "Send lawyers, guns, and money ..." (Really!) ] Phil Burk (of Delta Research) sent me this reply concerning the recent postings about JForth. I'm posting it for him, as he's just learning how to use the WELL to access the net. It's really a shame if the info he has on selling s/w in Italy is true. /kim vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv from Phil vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Yes, Delta Research is alive and well. I am responding to a comment that someone had trouble getting JForth for the Amiga. This may be have been due to one of two reasons. The Delta Research marketing effort was hampered in December of a combination of the Holidays and some unfortunate family emergencies. Also, inquiries from Italy have been put on hold. This is because several international distributors have warned us that Italy has no effective copy protection laws. We have heard that pirates can copy software and redistribute it FOR PROFIT and only face a $50 fine. If anyone has information that refutes or confirms this, please, let me know. I am on the WELL!PLBURK. This is very unfortunate for the honest citizens of Italy because many software vendors are reluctant to sell their code there. We are trying to work out some legal and technical protection schemes that would allow us to distribute in Italy. It would probably save us money if we simply did not distribute in Italy, but this would be very unfair to the honest Forth/Amiga fans with whom we sympathize. Perhaps these programmers could impress upon their government the impact this policy has on the software industry in Italy. We apologize for any delays that these two problems have caused anyone. We, of course, would like to see as many people as possible get to use JForth. We are busy negotiating with distributors, and establishing our sales channels. There should be nbo problem, therefore, in getting the release version of JForth when it is ready. In response to Kim's comments: Yes we are planning to have an extensive index in the release version. We are also including a tutorial, trouble-shooting tips, etc. Our primary focus now is on improving the manual. We are also adding support for MIDI (the Musical Instruments Device Interface), local sound, and TURNKEY. The final release date is planned for late February. The pre-release version is available now, however, from Delta Research. Free updates will be sent out to those who have this preliminary version. See our ad in Amiga World for details. Phil Burk, Delta Research ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- UUCP: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,ihnp4,seismo,oliveb,cbosgd}!amdahl!kim DDD: 408-746-8462 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 249, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 CIS: 76535,25 [ Any thoughts or opinions which may or may not have been expressed ] [ herein are my own. They are not necessarily those of my employer. ]