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Subject: Re: Sunday openings
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Date: Wed, 10-Dec-86 01:42:17 EST
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Posted: Wed Dec 10 01:42:17 1986
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>If you need daycare and have a low income, you can find cheap daycare.
>I've seen cheap daycare; have you?  It's enough to turn (pardon the
>exaggeration) Erik Nielsen into a flaming welfare-stater.  In the long run,
>it's not really cheaper either.  Bad daycare now means more unemployment
>and higher welfare costs later.  

>Jim Clarke -- Dept. of Computer Science, Univ. of Toronto, Canada M5S 1A4

  I have heard rumours, and these may be rumours of the : "you have it so
  easy now, why when I was a kid we lived in a shoebox and worked
  25 hours a day" variety; but nevertheless rumour has it that people
  at one time felt responsible for their actions and didn't cry to
  the government for assistance at every chance.   

  You seem to assume that there is an automatic right for people to
  expect to receive unemployment and welfare.   Canada cannot support
  its current unemployment and welfare system, at the funding levels
  that we now do.   If we try to maintain the current system, bad
  daycare now may mean no more than bad daycare now, if the "safety net"
  you allude to crashes around us.  

  In the same vein, I have never understood the calls for  universal
  free daycare.  People are not forced to have kids, they
  can choose for or against; and if they choose to have kids then
  they did so in an environment where having kids meant you had to
  make many different types and degrees of sacrifice, one of these
  sacrifices being arranging to care for the children.  Now why all
  of a sudden should the entire population be held economically
  responsible for a decision that you made personally and the consequences
  of which you no longer like.  i.e. why should I pay for daycare
  for your kids because you don't want the hassle of doing,
  paying, or otherwise arranging for it yourself.

  And while we're here; why should I pay money into the UI program,
  which is purportedly an insurance program, but which I will
  never collect from while others are encouraged by government to do
  a 10 week "qualification programs" in order to collect for a year
  and then repeat the process ad infinitum.   The people administering
  this INSURANCE program seem to evaluate risk different then the rest
  of the insurance industry, because I know the first time I make a claim
  on my car insurance I certainly won't be offered a chance to reinsure
  for the next year at the same rates.   Similarly, why should I pay into
  CPP when I'm at the tail end of the boom and the plan will almost certainly
  be bankrupt before I see any money from it.  Given the huge influx of
  elderly that the plan is going to see fairly soon, even people in
  their forties might not see anything back from this plan.  

  Finally, why is it that Canada, a country which in the eyes
  of many had the cards so stacked in our favour at the start of 
  this century that we were certain to become a major world influence
  before the end; ended up as a bit player ?    Why do we continually
  elect governments whose record can optimistically be described as 
  mediocre, and truthfully described as poor to bad ?    

  Possible answer (and if this doesn't reboot can.politics nothing
  will) : 3rd, 4th, and higher generations of Canadians have been
  generally lulled into a state somewhere between lethargy and
  laziness.  
						   Try not  to become  a man
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