Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!mnetor!seismo!think!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!eris!mwm From: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Next Amiga? Message-ID: <2063@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 27-Dec-86 03:01:11 EST Article-I.D.: jade.2063 Posted: Sat Dec 27 03:01:11 1986 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Dec-86 07:35:40 EST References: <23186@rochester.ARPA> <12299@watnot.UUCP> <617@fmsrl7.UUCP> <210@elxsi.UUCP> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: mwm@eris.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike (Don't have strength to leave) Meyer) Distribution: na Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 33 In article <617@fmsrl7.UUCP> wayne@fmsrl7.UUCP (Michael R. Wayne) writes: >Seriously, folks, is U**x really all that wonderful? No. Unix started life on a small system, supporting a couple of users. It's since moved to large systems, supporting hundreds of users. Some of the changes to make that work have not been pretty; some of them have not been made. Unix started with the wrong set of basic objects (files instead of ports+messages). In the original Unix environment it didn't matter much. It matters a lot now. The Unix documentation SUCKS. I've been saying for 10 years that the important part of the Unix docs are the sources. Compared to them, the stuff for AmigaDOS is wonderful. At least they TRIED to tell you how to write a device driver. With Unix, you get no such help (of course, there may be people shipping Unix with just that, and I know there are people who've done real docs for Unix). I should dig out my random collection of humorous posting based on the Unix documentation. On the other hand, Unix has one of the nicest sets of development tools I've ever run into. The only thing I've even heard of which might be better is Interlisp. If we could get all those tools on an Amiga, that'd be great! As for Unix itself, the box is slow enough as it is. Why make it worse? Oh, yeah, the people suggesting porting the v7 clone to the Amiga: That's the right one to use. V7 is as the "common subset" of the sysV and 4BSD lines. It also hasn't suffered nearly as much random growth as modern Eunices. Still no longer small and tight, but better than the other choices.