Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site sjuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!sjuvax!kirsch From: kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Some better guitarists than Fripp and Frith... Message-ID: <2457@sjuvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 13:19:59 EDT Article-I.D.: sjuvax.2457 Posted: Fri Oct 25 13:19:59 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 19:37:55 EDT References: <1185@druri.UUCP> <175@rdlvax.UUCP> <2440@sjuvax.UUCP> Reply-To: kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) Organization: St. Joseph's University, Phila. PA. Lines: 87 Keywords: guitar Summary: In article <2440@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) writes: >In article <175@rdlvax.UUCP> salzman@rdlvax.UUCP (Gumby) writes: >> >>I can't leave out my personal main influence on the guitar, because I >>think that when it comes to guitar, this guy knows how to fit a solo to >>a song like no one else can. I'm referring to Alex Lifeson of Rush. > > ...his solos don't make any sense!!... First of all-get one thing straight Larry--I'm not a big fan of Rush so don't write this letter off as blind hero worship. Lifeson's solo's are not entirely blues based if that's what you mean by "not making sense" but, they do have (for the most part) a continuing coherency to them. >> >>How did this start anyway? With Jimi Page? Give me a break. The guy is > > ...Why?? Is Jimmy Page grody to the max!? Are you sherr!?... > >>sloppy as hell. I saw him on the same stage as Clapton and Beck (ARMS > > ...I'd like to hear you construct some phrases as well as he did > and then execute them perfectly.I bet you'd be far sloppier.And > the way I understand it,he consistently received standing ovations > at the ARMS benefits shows.In fact it got so bad that he was embar- > rassed by the adulation he was receiving far and above the other two... Well, I guess comparing the author of the first article to Jimmy Page is a good way to measure Page's ability. Doe's the author of this article make his living playing guitar??(If he does my apologies) The fact that Page can't reconstruct his own solos is a bad mark on Page--it proves that he was better than he is now. Of course he's going to recieve adulation at the ARMS concert--he was able to stand without anyone's help--when any old "superstar" plays live he's going to be applauded--whether he performs well or not. >>benefit at LA Forum), and I was not very impressed. I think Clapton >>totally blew page away. And what he did at Live AID was discusting. The > > ...you know it's a shame Page didn't play with "The Firm" at Live-Aid, > doing material that he's freshly rehearsed.I'm sick to death of hearing > how "he's not as good as he used to be" when he still plays rock axe > with plenty of heart in his new band... > >>solo he did on Stairway to Heaven stunk! I think Jimi's getting old. I >>do say that he used to be quite a decent bluesman back in the early Zep >>days, but he is totally out of date..... > > ...*I do say* that he was the best British bluesman of them all. > Today,when I hear "The Firm" I recognize the sound of Page's guitar. > He has always been distinctive and always will be.Is this true of > Lifeson? The fact remains that in the field of rock guitarists,Life- > son was never in Page's league,and this can be said for most rock > axemen. Of course you can notice Page's guitar--it's because he plays that double Gibson with the paper thin body--the distinctive part of his guitar is the tone and the effects he uses not, his ability. Lifeson's tone is also distinct and I could recognize one of his solos right away also. Granted, I think Page WAS an excellent guitarist but I would have trouble changing that statement to the present tense. > > And you thought I never posted nothin' > serious, > > Larry Palena > lp102911@sjuvax (I guess that knife in the back's getting deeper huh Larry? :-)) > N.B. Any association with the Eclectic Electric Music Critic > (or whatever he's calling himself today),is purely imagined. -- Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of: Paul Kirsch St. Joseph's University Philadelphia, Pa { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!kirsch Warning: Objects in Terminal Room are Closer than they Appear...