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From: felix@imag.UUCP (Francois Felix Ingrand)
Newsgroups: net.followup
Subject: Re: Re: Terrorism Inc.
Message-ID: <359@imag.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 14:59:37 EST
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Posted: Tue Oct 29 14:59:37 1985
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Reply-To: felix@imag.UUCP (Francois Felix Ingrand)
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>     - The  waters around  Mururoa are  *NOT* radioactive, rather less  than
>many other places in the world.
>     -  The island   soil  itself has   *NOT* been  affected  by the nuclear
>explosions. The  seismic activity  of this  region has  remained *VERY*  low

Really, what do we (and you with your *NOT* and *VERY*) know about the
consequences of these experimentations....
It is not because Mr Quilles (French Defense Minister) take a bath in the 
lagoon that there is no radioactvity... It is not because only glasses
on the table (I have seen this at the TV) move that it is a small
"seismic activity"... This point are french propaganda... I do not know
if it is the same thing everywherere, but the french government, the
french army, the CEA (Commissariat a l'Energie Atomique), EDF and etc  
make *MORE* propaganda and *LIE MORE* than Greenpeace. 
Generaly Greenpeace say: "We do not know the consequences, and we are
afraid by what they could be (the past has show us)"
But the others always say " No problems... All is OK... Trust us... "

>     I put in doubt Greenpeace being an organization for peace. Why then are
>they  going to war  against countries? In my  opinion, you can only bring to
>the world the peace you have yourself, in your own life. One can be a man of
>peace, in  every  situation of  life, but I  doubt that  this  means to have
>attitudes like the Greepeace people, disrupting others...

I think that you are true and your are wrong, first GreenPeace stay for
"Green" "Peace" (not Peace in general), in fact it an ecological
organization. Second I agree with you when you say that peace is a thing
ok every day and everytime.

>     This  being  said, it is not at all  my intention to present the French
>government or  military as those who  are right. No, France *AND* Greenpeace
>are *both* wrong, they  are both warmongers, none of the parties are working
>*FOR* peace. They are  in war with each other, and  in war  many things  are
>done, not always kind things... 

War do not excuse anything... 

>In  this way, it is an act  of sabotage  and
>not  of terrorism, as terrorism is  the intentional  murder or kidnapping of
>*innocent* civilians, to be more precise  than Frank  Silbermann. And  in my
>opinion the Greepeace people are not *innocent*.
 
If they are not *innocent*, so it is a *transgression* to fight against
war.

>     Well,   I  already  see the  inhabitants   of Netland preparing   their
>flamethrowers, so I'd better  go and hide. No no, I am not going to give you
>my private address (-:

Les francais reagiront peut etre avant....


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