Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!brl-tgr!matt From: matt@brl-tgr.ARPA (Matthew Rosenblatt ) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: The Status of the Fetus and Its Rights (Proof of Rights) Message-ID: <2783@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Mon, 4-Nov-85 10:46:43 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.2783 Posted: Mon Nov 4 10:46:43 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Nov-85 07:11:55 EST References: <1847@pyuxd.UUCP> <2017@brl-tgr.ARPA> <1912@pyuxd.UUCP> <2415@brl-tgr.ARPA> <1982@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: Ballistic Research Lab Lines: 52 >> Captain Video fought for "Justice, Truth and >> Freedom throughout the Universe." Superman fought for "Truth, Justice, >> and the American Way." Disgusting behavior, such as running naked down >> Bloomfield Avenue, is banned because it is un-Ivy. [MATT ROSENBLATT] > Un-Ivy? "Disgusting"? Thank you for showing whose beliefs and moral codes > are based in reason and whose are based on "likes", "dislikes", prejudices, > and baseless opinions. [RICH ROSEN] This is a part of Mr. Rosen's article to which I did not respond earlier, so I will respond now: Why does anyone think the pro-lifers go around carrying photographs of bloody, dismembered fetuses? Because they're DISGUSTING, that's why! Blood and guts are bad enough when you look at surgery done to SAVE lives, but when the doctor, sworn to preserve life, becomes a killer, then the blood and guts are as disgusting as when the local "slasher" produces them. The intent of the pro-lifers is to get the prospective abortion patient to realize how disgusting abortion is, and change her mind. The intent of the pro-lifers is to get the legislature to realize how disgusting abortion is, and stop funding it. And the intent of the pro-lifers is to get the Supreme Court to realize how disgusting abortion is, and overturn Roe v. Wade. Lots of things are banned because they are disgusting, it is not _ultra vires_ for Americans to ban these things, and abortion ought to be one of them. As to un-Ivy: Yale football players will do anything within the rules of the game to beat Princeton, but they will not bring a knife to the Yale Bowl with which to cut up Princeton blockers who interfere with their precious "right" to score touchdowns. "Ivy" isn't just wearing a tweed jacket, sipping sherry, and smoking a pipe. "Ivy" is FAIR PLAY. You play football, you're assuming the risk of a broken leg and having to sit out the rest of the season. You make love, you're assuming the risk of a pregnancy and having to give the fetus a chance to live. It's not SPORTING, it's not FAIR PLAY, to kill an unborn baby in it's mother's womb, the one place in the world where it ought to be safest. Killing it before it's had a chance to be born is like elbowing a basketball player on the sidelines, before he's had a chance to put the ball into play. Most women are Ivy in this respect. Most women don't have abortions, even though they are legal. Most women aren't about to call in a BUTCHER to slice and dice a future student at Harvard, or Vassar, or Pembroke, or Cornell. But the referee has to enforce the rules of fair play for everyone, not just those who choose to play by them. -- Matt Rosenblatt ---------------------- "A WOMAN HAS A RIGHT TO AN ABORTION BECAUSE I WANT THE RIGHT TO GET RID OF THIS PROBLEM!! All the rest is smoke. If this value system prevails don't complain when they come for YOU." -- Ken Arndt