Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site adobe.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!Glacier!adobe!greid From: greid@adobe.UUCP (Glenn Reid) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing on the Clouds Message-ID: <799@adobe.UUCP> Date: Sun, 3-Nov-85 02:29:34 EST Article-I.D.: adobe.799 Posted: Sun Nov 3 02:29:34 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Nov-85 02:27:00 EST References: <6101@utzoo.UUCP> Reply-To: greid@adobe.UUCP (Glenn Reid) Organization: Adobe Systems, Palo Alto Lines: 41 Keywords: phone bills Summary: phone bills phone bills phone bills In article <6101@utzoo.UUCP> henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) writes: >for the privilege of paying exorbitant phone bills for your benefit. >Who's talking about the will of the community here? The will of the >community will not pay my phone bills. >that money than paying phone bills with it. (Incidentally, don't you >to go towards the backbone's phone bills. If you aren't going to help with >at the cost of still higher phone bills!) and "coordinate calls more >Or else it demands still deeper pockets on our parts. I agree that slowing >I spend a lot of money on it. What a terrible thought. How many mink tea > > Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology > {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry [etc., etc., etc.] Here is the root of the problem, folks: "phone bills". You see it in every single message that is in support of cutting newsgroups. It is conspicuously absent in every other message. IS THAT ALL THERE IS TO IT? MONEY? I guess money does make the world go 'round. I suspect all the backbone sites write it off on their income taxes, else I can't imagine their footing many-thousand dollar phone bills more than once. Let's get this out in the open. How do we lower the phone bills at ihnp4, allegra, gatech, decvax, utzoo, etc.? Cut newsgroups? Change their connectivity so they don't make so many long distance calls? Offer to pay 35 cents for every 512 bytes that we send through their sites? This is so American of all of us. Glenn Reid {decwrl,glacier,sun}!adobe!greid -- You have new mail.