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From: martillo@mit-hector.UUCP (Yakim Martillo)
Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish,net.nlang.india
Subject: Re: Middle East, Oil and the costs of Militarism
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Date: Sat, 9-Nov-85 10:38:04 EST
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Posted: Sat Nov  9 10:38:04 1985
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Summary: 


Muslims over the past millenium have subjected non-Muslims under their
rule to systematic humiliation and degradation which are mandated by
all schools of Islamic jurisprudence.  Further the contempt which  Islam
encourages Muslims to feel toward non-Muslims has caused periodic persecution
and pogroms directed at non-Muslims in all corners of the Islamic world.

In the previous century, the only decent places in the Muslim world
to be a non-Muslim were those lands most strongly under European (or
Chinese or Hindu) domination.  Subjugation and conquest of Muslim
lands by Europeans or other non-Muslims is therefore from the
standpoint of the oppressed peoples of the world a progressive act.

In the case of Israel, most of the Jews in this nation have origins
in the Islamic regions least under the domination or influence of
Europeans, Chinese or Hindus.  Therefore the Israeli population has a long
history of humiliation, degradation and persecution at the hands of barbaric
Islamic overlords.  Legitimately Jews may view the PLO and all attacks
by Muslims upon Jews as part of the continuum and the modern expression of
traditional Islamic Jew-baiting.

Further, Islamic nations periodically declare war on Israel and
threaten the Jews with anihilation.  Moreover, no Islamic political,
intellectual or religious leader has ever conceded that the mandated
Islamic treatment of non-Muslims is a reprehensible and wrong way of
dealing with non-Muslims and that just perhaps non-Muslims, who have
been or are under Islamic subjugation, might have some legitimate grievances
against the Islamic world and that they might have some legitimate claims
for compenstation for Islamic mistreatment.

In fact, in no country ruled by Muslims are non-Muslims treated on
terms of mutual respect and equality by the dominant Muslims (and I
have lived in Turkey and Tunisia).  Until Muslims renounce sleazeball
Islam and Muslims change there scuzz attitudes toward non-Muslims,
Israel, India, Singapur, the Soviet Union, China, Yugoslavia and
other nations in similar situation have a legitimate right and
obligation to their non-Muslim populations to suppress Muslims under
their control. The removal of territory from Islamic control is therefore
a positive achievement for the good of all humanity and an act of which
any nation should be proud.