Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac,net.micro.amiga,net.news.group Subject: Re: commercialism and net.micro.amiga going the way of .mac Message-ID: <837@psivax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 5-Nov-85 11:52:58 EST Article-I.D.: psivax.837 Posted: Tue Nov 5 11:52:58 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 8-Nov-85 08:06:54 EST References: <477@spice.cs.cmu.edu> <701@h-sc1.UUCP> <5690@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.micro.mac:3320 net.micro.amiga:629 net.news.group:4348 In article <5690@amdcad.UUCP> phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) writes: > >The reason backbones have such large phone bills is because they have >a lot of long distance news feeds in addition to the six or so local >news feeds. If everyone had only local news feeds, there would be >many areas isolated from each other. In California, for example, >there's no way to reach LA from SF without a long distance call. >Even if you were willing to route it through as many inbetween sites >as needed, there aren't enough to form a local call only chain. > >The backbone concept also holds down the propagation delay. It's bad >now but it would be much worse without the backbones. But why do they have to be *really* long distance, wouldn't two or three moderate distance connections be better than one ultra-long connection? I mean aren't there sites *between* SF and LA, like perhaps Sacramento(or Big Sur :-))?? Whya does it have to be a *single* jump all that way, and the LA East coast(ihnp4) connections are simply absurd! Basically with this size of a net we need three or four times as many "backbone" sites, in which case hte backbone site costs *wouldn't* be that much higher! I would be very willing to put up with another day or two in propagation delays if it would help to retain the *interesting* discussion groups on the net! It is a matter of priorities, which is more important speed or convienience? -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa