Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!eli From: eli@cvl.UUCP (Eli Liang) Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: police honesty/infallability Message-ID: <929@cvl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Nov-85 09:53:50 EST Article-I.D.: cvl.929 Posted: Mon Nov 4 09:53:50 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Nov-85 07:30:46 EST References: <428@gymble.UUCP> Reply-To: eli@cvl.UUCP (Eli Liang) Distribution: na Organization: Computer Vision Lab, U. of Maryland, College Park Lines: 51 >>> >Your problem with speeding makes my heart bleed. If you >>> >had said you were cited for doing 42 in a 35 zone, I might >>> >have had some sympathy. But, 59 in a 35? Come on now, >>> >who do you expect will think you have been victimized? >>> >T. C. Wheeler >>> >>> another good German who believes in the integrity of the state and its minions >>> From: mazlack@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Lawrence J. &) >> >>What is this "good German" stuff doing in net.auto? The fact is that >>doing 59 in a 35 zone is illegal! I also have no sympathy for this victim. >> >>If T.C. were tagged for 59 in a 55, I could argue that the police >>were using poor judgement. But all rational people, including Germans, >>know that 59 in a 35 is stupid. >> >>I think Lawrence J. & owes all Germans an apology. And By the way, >> ..... > >If both of you guys look at the original articl, the guy says, that he wasn't >doing 59. He also says that he knew there was a speed trap because of people >flashing lights, and he drives there regularly, and knows that the area is >heavily patrolled. > Agreed, the replier's reference to the German people could be offensive, >but the point I beleive he was trying to make was, T. C. Wheeler blindly >believed the cop and that not questioning authority (especially when they are >wrong) is dangerous to society. > To rephrase the problem, The guy who got the ticket knows that he wasn't >speeding. If in fact he wasn't speeding, either the cop was lying, and he >doesn't know what possible recourse he has, or the cop made an honest >mistake, which again brings up the problem of recourse. > The last time I checked, the police were still people, and I'm not sure, >but I believe people could be wrong from time to time. But then, I could >be wrong! :-) > > Bill Pataky > Bravo! It seems like too many people take the voice of authority as gospel. To put it a little tritely, People are human and can make mistake either accidentally or on purpose... -eli -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eli Liang --- University of Maryland Computer Vision Lab, (301) 454-4526 ARPA: eli@cvl, eli@lemuria, eli@mit-mc, eli@mit-prep CSNET: eli@cvl UUCP: {seismo,allegra,brl-bmd}!umcp-cs!cvl!eli