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From: bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran)
Newsgroups: net.comics
Subject: Re: Jean Grey
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Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 08:30:20 EST
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In article <900@cvl.UUCP> kayuucee@cvl.UUCP (Kenneth W. Crist Jr.) writes:
>> If you go by the original Claremont timeline vs. the atrocity we
>> now have foisted on us, there was never a dichotomy between
>> Jean and Phoenix.  She had her powers stripped from her after
>> the battle on the Moon in #137, married Scott, and they had Rachel.
>> So Rachel IS the child of Scott and Jean, not the spawn of some
>> pan-dimensional being playing at human.
>> 
>> 						Bob Halloran
>> 						Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG
>
>	But the whole point is that the person on the moon WAS Phoenix,
>NOT Jean Grey. So in Rachael's timeline the newly de-powered Phoenix
>marries Scott and has Rachael. Appearantly, the Jean Grey of Racheal's
>timeline was never recovered that she knows of. It would be interesting
>to see if the Sentinals were able to detect her in Jamacia Bay and went
>and killed her.
>	I think this whole matter stinks. Madelyn Pryor is getting the short
>end of the stick and even though she is the Phoenix she is still a great
>character.
>
>						Star-Lord

Doesn't wash, I feel.  If the Phoenix is a being of pure energy by nature,
how could they strip her of 'herself'?  To borrow a line from Scotty in
Blish's 'Spock Must Die' novel, "I'd sooner stick a thirteen-amp tap
directly into God".  :-)

I think my original proposition is still right; in Rachel's timeline
Jean Grey had her powers amplified to cosmic levels; after the Shi'ar
battle they stripped her of this, she and Scott were married and had
Rachel.  The dichotomy arose when Jim Sh**ter decided it was a good
idea to bring her back and needed to rationalize it; 'Oh, that wasn't
really Jean all that time, it was a deus-ex-machina we brought in so
we could bring the real Jean back later and invalidate the whole Phoenix
storyline.'

Jeff, JEFF!!!, when is Sh*ter coming to trial in SPC?  PLEEEASSSE!!!

						Bob Halloran
						Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG
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