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From: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: Reform net.internat
Message-ID: <629@ecsvax.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 11:41:12 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 25 11:41:12 1985
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Summary: 

I don't think the question of whether net.internat is necessary is
relevant to the discussion (though I tend to think it is necessary.)  I
do think the rmgroup on net.internat was done without thought, and with
a certain amount of dictatorial short-sightedness.

There seems to be the myth lying around that all newsgroups have gone
through some form of democratic voting process to be created.  This
isn't the case.  Historically, newsgroups have been *legitimately* been
created by mandate of usenix or some subgroup of usenix withough having
been subjected to a network vote.  If anyone decided, it was a few people
at a small meeting.

net.internat was created by mandate of EUNET.  I have no problem with this,
and I think declaring it an illegal group is an exceptionally parochial thing
to do.  Perhaps there should have been private discussion as to the name
of net.internet among the netgods, but the group itself has sufficient 
legitimacy by virtue of EUNET sponsorship to bypass the voting procedure.

I also refuse to honor the rmgroup.  Were I on EUNET I would by highly
offended by Spaf's actions.
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                                              Byron Howes
					System Manager -- NCECS
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