Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site ndm20 Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!ndm20!tp From: tp@ndm20 Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: spaf's note on fa->mod groups Message-ID: <5000012@ndm20> Date: Fri, 1-Nov-85 08:42:00 EST Article-I.D.: ndm20.5000012 Posted: Fri Nov 1 08:42:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Nov-85 07:06:59 EST References: <10805@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Lines: 54 Nf-ID: #R:ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU:-1080500:ndm20:5000012:000:2495 Nf-From: ndm20!tp Nov 1 07:42:00 1985 >>Has anyone considered that the new mod names (mod.computers.*) are not >>significant within the first 14 characters? This will break sites running >>older versions of news and notes. Is it too late to request a name >>change? (Perhaps mod.comp.*?) Almost right. I run notes 1.7, the latest version, and the names break my site! As for old notesfiles sites, I consider them in the same light as I do old netnews sites. A notesfiles site that expects to interact with the rest of USENET has to be prepared to track the standard and upgrade as >necessary. I don't know exactly when the `alias' feature which handles >long newsgroup names for notesfiles became available in notes, but I >know it was in place when net.religion.christian was created nearly a >year ago, because there was some silly foofrah in net.news.group at the >time. Sorry to disappoint you but the alias feature is less than perfect. It only works on transmit. Now I could go through all the hassle of getting stuff set up upstream, but I won't ever know to do it because the new stuff goes right into the old group. Are you going to send me advance mail every time you create one of these monsters? And everyone else affected? >The network can be viewed as society undergoing evolution, and those >elements of the society that don't adapt to the changes will cease to >be an effective part of that society. >communication by computer. Sites that don't update will eventually be >left in the dust (although at the current pace, this takes years). Admirable attitude. How about I show similar concern for my fellow man by shoving all this stuff back out onto the net in the group I recieve it in. Thats mod.computers.* -> mod.computers.vax and mod.protocols.* in mod.protocols.tcp-ip. Note that this would happen automatically If I had more than one notes feed, and probably will when it hits someone who does have multiple feeds and is otherwise in my situation. IT ISN'T THAT DAMNED HARD TO THINK OF NAMES THAT ARE UNIQUE TO 14 CHARACTERS!!! You have made the unilateral decision to screw a lot of people. WHY? Does it offend your sensibilities that greatly to have names that are unique to 14 characters? It is an easy problem to fix, and only your unwillingness to do so makes it a problem at all! Terry Poot Nathan D. Maier Consulting Engineers (214)739-4741 Usenet: ...!{allegra|ihnp4}!convex!smu!ndm20!tp CSNET: ndm20!tp@smu ARPA: ndm20!tp%smu@csnet-relay.ARPA