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Subject: Re: What is a yuppie?
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Date: Sat, 9-Nov-85 21:43:04 EST
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[Me, being crotchety]
>> --Even back then, we knew damn well that we'd wind up compromising
>> a number of our oh-so-lofty principles, round off a few of the rough
>> edges here and there.  But never, *never*, did any of us ever suspect
>> that our whole generation en masse would throw away the very essence
>> of the progressive ideals it held dear and spit on them.

[Frank Silbermann]
> Get real, will ya'?  Lofty principles and ideals of the 60's?
> Give me a break!  Most of the 60's youth didn't even understand
> the slogans the spouted.  It was merely fashion -- the cool thing
> to do at the time (and if you weren't cool, how could you hope
> to get laid?).  Sure, a few of the New Left (read "communist") yippies
> knew what they were doing, but for most of the rest, it was just
> one big party.  Seeing a few old films like "Getting Straight"
> (starring Elliot Gould and Candice Bergen) or "Fritz the Cat"
> (starring himself) will set you straight about the motivations
> and concerns of that time.

Hmmm, so that's how it happened.  Silly us.  We didn't know which end
was up, just partying all the time and yelling dumb slogans.  Well,
speak for yourself, Frank.  No, don't.  Sorry--I didn't mean that.
Don't sell yourself short, Frank.  There was a war on, and everybody's
ass was on the line, and the Revolution was just around the corner.
Maybe it was a pipe dream (considering what was in the pipe), but we
did believe it.  We wouid transform a sick society into one big co-op.

Of course, Madison Avenue was hot on our heels, co-opting our values
wherever it could.  And so was Hollywood, which through all those
outasight peace-and-love days steadfastly maintained the political
consciousness of a turnip.  And still there were films that did hit
the mark.  Not "Getting Straight", "Easy Rider".  Or better, "THX 1138".

Frank, if you were as peripheral to The Movement as your comments
indicate, I'm sorry.  But don't knock it because you weren't there
in the streets.  Then again, maybe that *is* a good reason to knock
it.  You can't look at today's jazzercise/pasta salad/designer
culture and imagine you'll get another chance real soon.  Sigh.
Ou sont les neiges d'antans?
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