Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site nitrex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!cwruecmp!nitrex!rob From: rob@nitrex.UUCP (rob robertson) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Car driver asks for advice from bicyclists Message-ID: <153@nitrex.UUCP> Date: Sun, 27-Oct-85 14:00:02 EST Article-I.D.: nitrex.153 Posted: Sun Oct 27 14:00:02 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Oct-85 04:19:51 EST References: <354@sol1.UUCP> <55@noscvax.UUCP> <1023@druxo.UUCP> <95@utastro.UUCP> Reply-To: rob@nitrex.UUCP (rob robertson) Followup-To: net.bicycle Distribution: net Organization: The Standard Oil Co., Cleveland Lines: 24 Keywords: bike paths, the Netherlands Summary: bike paths in the Netherlands In article <95@utastro.UUCP> bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) writes: >I don't object to bike paths as long as they are part of the road. I >refuse to use a bike path that is separated from the roadway, since >they subject me to the same dangers that sidewalks do. The dangers >of separate bike paths have been well documented. I lived in the Netherlands for four year. They had bike paths and they worked GREAT. The path was right next to the sidewalk, usually with a grass median between the bike path and the road. The bike paths week bricked/tiled and were very smooth and clean. It beats the H*ll out of riding in the roads. I think that bike paths are not inherantly dangerous, I think it is more the way drivers have been educated in this country ("thar's cars, and kids shouldn't be riding their bikes in our road, they may get hurt"). Overall, I'd like to compare Dutch bicycle accident stats with American ones. -- rob robertson decvax!cwruecmp!nitrex!rob.UUCP (216) 791-0922 cbosgd!nitrex!rob.UUCP nitrex!rob@case.CSNET nitrex!rob%case@csnet-relay.ARPA