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From: wilson_3@h-sc1.UUCP (bradford wilson)
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.news.group
Subject: Re: Delete net.flame?
Message-ID: <690@h-sc1.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 31-Oct-85 00:53:38 EST
Article-I.D.: h-sc1.690
Posted: Thu Oct 31 00:53:38 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 2-Nov-85 05:00:00 EST
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Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center
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Keywords: Nazis, sackheads, FLAME ON!!
Xref: watmath net.flame:12584 net.news.group:4136


             I am writing in response to a posting by someone whose 
name my .editor has munged, but who comes out in favor of deleting
anything he finds offensive.

> Last Friday, I suggested that net.flame should be removed.
> To date, I've received 23 letters about the subject, and the
> concensus is 22 DELETE 1 KEEP.  The one letter that wanted me
> to "keep" net.flame actually said 
> 
> "..sick, faggot head, what gives you the f<>g right to
> tell any non-pervert ..."
> 
> <> encloses the obvious.

          For the record, I did not write the above letter, but I wish I
had. I take it <> encloses your brain space. The deal is that most of the
hardcore flamers aren't organized enough to speak up for their survival.
ATTENTION FELLOW FLAMERS! Let the net know that you want to keep the group!

    > 
> I think that 22:1 is a good start toward a concensus.

            If the numbers were in my favor, I would feel that 2:1 was a 
concensus. Give me a freaking break!
 
> 2)
> 
> Today, a totally ungracious individual, who doesn't have
> to justify the cost of the net,  suggests in net.flame that we
> should all write Gene Spafford (the real verb he was suggesting
> was "harass", but he was politic and said "write") because
> Gene enforced a rule that is well known, and did it AFTER
> consulting other people (who may or may not wish to be named)
> in positions similar to his.

              Now, I  >did< write this flame. Good idea, huh? Hey Flamers,
why not mail to this guy! Send him anything you have on file, especially
the big, space-eating files. No one has the right to censor.  
> 
> Aside from the obvious, i.e. Gene has to justify the money spent
> on nutnews at his site, and he does not feel that he can justify

                Awwww, sob. Spaf is such a great guy, he does all this
neat stuff for free, he really like us, oh gosh I'm so ashamed :-). 
Seriously, though, this does not give him the right to say what he likes,
and stamp out what he doesn't in a freaking witchhunt.

 i> nut.bizzare, or any group that doesn't have a start discussed properly
> on the net, mailing to Gene ignores the fact that he is only
> one of a bunch of people who agree with one or both of
> the decisions.  Picking on Gene because HE is the keeper of the
> lists is just plain silly, as well as using the interstate
> phone system for harassment.
             
> In any case, suggesting federal crimes on the net (or something
> that is likely to be able to be made out as a federal crime)
> is a good case for removing both a user and a newsgroup, so

                What are you, ten years old? You think that's harassment?
You want to know what harassment is? Are you gonna bust me for threatening
you on the net? (Are you so scared of MY KIND that you don't print your    
signature at the end of your postings?) My techniques are those of revolution,
for these are times that call for revolt. When my liberty is threatened,
I feel the way kind of the way you feel when you read a *BAD* word (oo, yuck!)
in your mail.> 

> IT'S TIME!  I CALL ON NET ADMINISTRATORS WHO WANT THE NET TO
> CONTINUE TO EXIST TO START THE DISCUSSION!

         YES IT IS! I WANT EVERY FLAMER TO RESPOND TO THIS PATHETIC CHALLENGE
IF YOU WISH THIS GROUP TO CONTINUE!!
> 
> My mail filter is still up, I will see your profanity, obscenity,
> and the like, but it will be marked as such when I turn on the
> mailer, and your root and news administrators will likely get a copy, if
> you're good at being insulting.
 
             Oh, too bad I really wasn't at my best for this one! But I'm
sure I can get one in front of the "net administrators" yet. These guys
are worse than the Inquisition, right?   

             I'm getting sick of being the only flamer interested in        
the survival of the group. I'll bet the rest of you are like the people
who stood around while Kitty Genovese was being raped!. C'mon, prove I'm
wrong! Wake up! Don't let what happened to net.bizarre happen here! There
was no warning for the bizarreheads, but there has been plenty here. A
storm is rolling in...

                             The Wombat .:.
   "You've decided? MY best
       interests? How can you
       say what MY best interest is?"
                    -- Suicidal Tendencies
            "Y'all go to hell."
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