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From: lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: Led Zeppelin fans and Jimmy Page
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Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 11:59:28 EDT
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Posted: Wed Oct 23 11:59:28 1985
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Reply-To: lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena)
Organization: St. Joseph's University, Phila. PA.
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In article <1896@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes:
>>            Yeah,I love follow-ups.Somebody takes two lines from your 
>>        article,comes up with a cute rebuttal,and "runs rings 'round...etc."
                 ...etc...
>
>Not when they simply weren't up to snuff.  They're not "great" just because
>you say they're great, or because you like to think they're great, or because
>they were great.  (I really have no idea what real point Mr. Palena is trying
>to make.)  Jimmy Page has a face and brain that have essentially turned to
>liquid as a result of overuse of a certain drug.  It shows in his playing.

          ...I don't make points,I SCORE them.I learned my debating technique
          at the Don Rickles School of Oratory and Rhetoric.Page doesn't look
          the way he did because of drugs.That's just naivete' in the worst.
          The fact is that he has always been of frail health.He turned down
          his first chance to join the Yardbirds because he didn't think he 
          could survive the arduous touring.His terrible physical condition
          is the result of his aggravating this with years and years of work-
          ing with Zeppelin.He was involved in heroin,but kicked the habit 
          shortly after Bonham's death.If you don't believe this,all I can say
          is that he has always looked that way,for at least the last six years.

>The man is simply not the great guitarist he was when he recorded "Rock and
>Roll",  "Communications Breakdown", "Heartbreaker", "Immigrant Song", "The
>Crunge".  Nor is Clapton the same guitarist he was when he recorded "Layla",

           ...while your ability to name Zeppelin tunes in admirable,your
           opinion of Page still sucks and shows your ignorance."Immigrant
           Song" is simply an octave lick with a few sliding bar-chords.He 
           can probably play that song as well today as he did in 1970...

>"Tales of Brave Ulysses", "Little Wing", etc.  To say that they are is to
>denigrate the people who are really guitarists today.

           ..."the people who are really guitarists today" play the guitar
           with their index fingers instead of picks.Most of them owe a great
           deal to Page...
>
>>	 I mean who
>>        cares if it was the last time that "Stairway to Heaven" may ever be
>>        performed by the two.
>
>If it wasn't performed well, indeed, who cares?
>

         ...that song was a cultural icon,the ultimate statement of the hippie
         generation (at least from the British point of view).Some people req-
         uested radio stations to play it to coincide with teenager's funerals.
         It was a momentous occasion to see the song's authors perform it to-
         gether for probably the last time,even if they were a little out of
         practice...

>>	 I mean if Jones is a bit overweight that just ruins the whole
>> 	 experience.
>
>Strange set of values, there.  I didn't like it merely because I didn't like
>the performance.  Jones' obesity (which I didn't notice and haven't noticed
>yet in seeing interviews of him, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
>

         ...apologies are in order here.I know somebody asked the net if Jones
         were at Live-Aid and received the response,"Yeah,he was the fat,ugly
         guy playing bass."If you weren't responsible for this then I'm sorry
         for the mix-up...

>>                                   Just another timely contribution to
>>                                         net.KateBush,
>>                                           Larry Palena,
>
>It's apparent where this person is coming from.
>-- 

     ...PERSON!!?? PERSON!!?? I think you should know that the last dude
      who called me a person is still looking for his head!!!...

                                    I don't know how long this seriousness
                                        streak is going to last,

                                          Larry Palena,
                                          lp102911@sjuvax