Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ernie!tedrick From: tedrick@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Tedrick) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.math Subject: Re: Sc--nce Attack (really on minds and computers) Message-ID: <10809@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Sat, 26-Oct-85 14:19:09 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10809 Posted: Sat Oct 26 14:19:09 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Oct-85 03:15:50 EST Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: tedrick@ernie.UUCP (Tom Tedrick) Distribution: net Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 21 Keywords: reply to responses about Turing machines Xref: watmath net.philosophy:2937 net.math:2431 Thanks very much for the responses about the mind-turing machine problem. They were very interesting and educational. The most interesting was from our distinguished mathematical colleague from Amsterdam. I have the highest respect for the Amsterdam mathematicians (having gone through some of the Lenstras' papers and heard their talks, for example) so I will defer to his superior knowledge, and only thank him for taking the time to reply. I suspect some of the responses were from people not sufficiently familar with the subject to have an informed opinion, but most were quite good. I didn't appreciate the responses that treated the problem as a joke, or subjected me to personal ridicule. For lack of time I am unable to respond to all the messages I received. I should mention that I saw a film where Godel said something to the effect that either mathematics was inconsistent, or there was some mysterious, not formally explainable process going on in the human mind. Anyway that was my understanding of what he said ... -Tom