Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!mit-xx.arpa!YANNIS From: YANNIS@MIT-XX.ARPA (John A. Bakopoulos) Newsgroups: net.nlang.greek Subject: Re: (net-forw #194) ANTAPANTHSH (Christos Papadimitriou) Message-ID: <12154608663.11.YANNIS@MIT-XX.ARPA> Date: Sun, 27-Oct-85 22:39:30 EST Article-I.D.: MIT-XX.12154608663.11.YANNIS Posted: Sun Oct 27 22:39:30 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Oct-85 01:16:38 EST References: <8510280319.AA13351@ucbingres.ARPA> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 41 Dio-treis diefkriniseis: O synadelfos Papadimitriou den fainetai na prosexe oti antititheme stin emphasi se BASIKH erevna, se varos EFARMOSMENIS erevnas af enos kai EFARMOGIS tis erevnas af eterou. I ligi empiria pou eho apo tin katastasi stin Ellada deihnei oti poly megalo pososto twn (anamfisvitita aneparkwn) kondyliwn diatithetai gia kentra styl Dimokritou me miden dynanotites praktikwn efarmogwn, pou stin kaliteri periptosi kataligoun se dimosiefseis se xena periodika POLY MIKRIS "net present value" gia tin Ellada (arnitikis an lavoume yp' opsin to opportunity cost). Fisika kai den antitithemai se kathe erevna, an afto ennoei o synadelfos Papadimitriou. I ousia tis ypothesis einai stin epilogi ton tomewn pou theloume na kanoume erevna. Fysika kat'arhin tha prepei na kanoume KATI se KATHE tomea (the marginal value of ANY productive investment is positive at investment amount zero). Dystihws omws prepei na antimetopisoume tin pragmatikotita tis anangis kapoiou "allocation of resources". Kai proteinw oti i ypothesi tou synadelfou Papadimitriou oti i diethnis empiria kai pragmatikotita proteinei oti prepei na dothei (isi) protereotita se erevna "sto metopo tis epistimis" san proypothesi technologikis anaptyxis einai lanthasmeni. (Xwris, pros theou, na amfisvitw tin proswpiki axia tis etherovamonas erevnas, i to dikaiwma tou Papadimitriou i opoioudipote allou na tin kanei. Aplws tin shetiki hrisimotita apenanti se erevna paromoiou epipedou me poio efarmosmenous skopous). Kai ohi, den fovamai oti to kratos dinei ypervoliki proteraiotita stin "erevna". (-: Aplws proteinw anti oi kyvernwntes na syzitan kai na kanoun shedia vasikis erevnas pou pote den tha efarmostoun, na xanoun ton kairo tous toulahiston se anefarmosta shedia gia metafora tehnologias. :-) Afta san diefkrinisi, kai antapodidontas ta heretismata tou Papadimitriou, pou kata symptosi episis ehw hronia na ton dw, Cheers, Yannis Bakopoulos -------