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From: lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: The Wall
Message-ID: <2513@sjuvax.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 4-Nov-85 11:35:23 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov  4 11:35:23 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 8-Nov-85 06:37:51 EST
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Reply-To: lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena)
Organization: St. Joseph's University, Phila. PA.
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Keywords: Me and My Big Mouth!!!!
Summary: 

In article <1985@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes:
>>>Not to flame you, Paul (I agree with your rebuttal to Palena wholeheartedly),
>>>but although I've liked some of the music from "The Wall", I can't help but
>>>think that as a whole it is a ridiculously self-indulgent egotistical
>>>whining exercise on the part of Roger Waters.  [ROSEN]
>
>> I agree that "The Wall" reflects at times the self-indulgent and egotistical 
>> tendencies of the writer.  However, that's not enough for it to be called
>> "ridiculous".  In fact, I think many artists (assuming Roger Waters is an 
>> artist) share these same qualities and tendencies.  Eccentricities and
>> obseessions often are characteristics of exceptional artists.   For example,
>> John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Picasso, Beethoven, Dostoyevsky, Milton, ...
>> I think to single Roger Waters out by calling "The Wall" "ridiculous" is 
>> unfair. [LIPINSKI]
>
>The difference is that the others had something worth saying about their
>experiences, and didn't succumb to melodramatic whining (even Lennon's
>first solo album, a real catharsis, has more real power than self-pity).
>
>> He was clearly obsessed with (the seeming futility of) his life, 
>> his mistakes, and his relationships.  I really think it is an exceptional
>> thematic work.  He as a person may not be appreciable but "The Wall" as an
>> expression of his feelings is. 
>
>I disagree, but that's what makes horse races.  His message wasn't
>effective to me, nothing of substance other than the whining came across.
>Though there IS some great music on the album.
>
>>>I recall reading his
>>>insistence at the time of the recording of "The Wall"... 

           ...(and on and on and on....) *** WHAT HAVE I DONE???!!!****
           Let me say at this time two things;

            1) "The Wall" is a bad album,and when I say "bad" spell 
              that S-T-U-P-I-D.

            2) Anybody who could think that this net has nothing better
              to talk about but that album is obviously mentally deficient.

             ...in short,I'm ***SORRY*** I ever implied that "The Wall" is
             over-rated.It bogged me down in a huge argument with Paul Kirsch
             and introduced the topic to the net,for excrutiatingly long dis-
             cussion!!! For the sake of your fellow men please!,***ENOUGH ABOUT
             THAT ALBUM***

                                                no matter how he tried
                                                he could not break free,
                                                and the worms ate into
                                                his brain .

                                               ***UGHHHHHH!!!!***

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