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From: eli@cvl.UUCP (Eli Liang)
Newsgroups: net.auto
Subject: Re: police honesty/infallability
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Date: Mon, 4-Nov-85 09:53:50 EST
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Posted: Mon Nov  4 09:53:50 1985
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>>> >Your problem with speeding makes my heart bleed.  If you
>>> >had said you were cited for doing 42 in a 35 zone, I might
>>> >have had some sympathy.  But, 59 in a 35?  Come on now,
>>> >who do you expect will think you have been victimized?
>>> >T. C. Wheeler
>>> 
>>> another good German who believes in the integrity of the state and its minions
>>> From: mazlack@ernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Lawrence J. &)
>>
>>What is this "good German" stuff doing in net.auto?  The fact is that
>>doing 59 in a 35 zone is illegal!  I also have no sympathy for this victim.
>>
>>If T.C. were tagged for 59 in a 55, I could argue that the police
>>were using poor judgement.  But all rational people, including Germans,
>>know that 59 in a 35 is stupid.
>>
>>I think Lawrence J. & owes all Germans an apology.  And By the way,
>> .....
>
>If both of you guys look at the original articl, the guy says, that he wasn't
>doing 59.  He also says that he knew there was a speed trap because of people
>flashing lights, and he drives there regularly, and knows that the area is 
>heavily patrolled.
>   Agreed, the replier's reference to the German people could be offensive,
>but the point I beleive he was trying to make was, T. C. Wheeler blindly
>believed the cop and that not questioning authority (especially when they are
>wrong) is dangerous to society.
>   To rephrase the problem, The guy who got the ticket knows that he wasn't
>speeding.  If in fact he wasn't speeding, either the cop was lying, and he
>doesn't know what possible recourse he has, or the cop made an honest
>mistake, which again brings up the problem of recourse.
>   The last time I checked, the police were still people, and I'm not sure,
>but I believe people could be wrong from time to time.  But then, I could
>be wrong! :-)
>
>	Bill Pataky
>

Bravo!  It seems like too many people take the voice of authority as gospel.
To put it a little tritely, People are human and can make mistake either
accidentally or on purpose...

-eli

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