Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site sneaky Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!sneaky!gordon From: gordon@sneaky Newsgroups: net.news.notes Subject: Re: mod.computers.* vs. notes Message-ID: <-39585725@sneaky> Date: Wed, 6-Nov-85 01:49:00 EST Article-I.D.: sneaky.-39585725 Posted: Wed Nov 6 01:49:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Nov-85 08:05:21 EST References: <395857@sneaky> Lines: 44 Nf-ID: #R:sneaky:-39585727:sneaky:-39585725:000:2257 Nf-From: sneaky!gordon Nov 6 00:49:00 1985 /* Written 7:27 am Nov 4, 1985 by ndm20!tp in sneaky:net.news.notes */ Are you sure that a shortname site must use the alias feature on any name that is longer than 14 characters? I don't use the alias feature at all. I am a shortname site connected to a longname site. As long as I pass all the notes utilities the long name, all works well. ... Terry Poot Nathan D. Maier Consulting Engineers ... /* End of text from sneaky:net.news.notes */ You are correct that it is possible to get around using the alias feature on names that are simply chopped at 14 characters. However, this seems to me to cause more hassle than maintaining the alias file. If you feed nfxmit a list of notes groups with the full names to send anything, you have to edit the file every time a new group is created with any length name. If I feed nfxmit wildcards like net.*, then I have to edit my alias file every time a new group longer than 14 characters is created. (Of course, by the time Eric Fair gets finished, neither file will fit on a single disk drive. When are you going to come up with single names longer than 64k, Eric?) If maintaining a complete list of all groups works for you, fine, but it's not the way lots of administrators do it. The aliases don't break your method and it makes other methods work right. Do you allow your longnames connection to request your system to send it stuff with remote execution of nfxmit? Does your connection know it can't use wildcards in such requests? I agree with your point that the solution is to rename the groups. The proper procedures weren't followed, either, and I have yet to see a list of the names of all 18 or whatever atrocities that were created. When is someone going to post a list of the $^%#$^%#^$% things? If I could figure out a procedure that would deliberately "cross-pollinate" every one of Eric's groups into every other one of Eric's groups on both the news and notes side of things, I'd be tempted to post it. Unfortunately, everything I can think of just screws the notes users. Also, it annoys people who are already overly but justifiably annoyed with stupid group names, so I'm not going to. Gordon Burditt ...!convex!ctvax!trsvax!sneaky!gordon