Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utai.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utai!lamy From: lamy@utai.UUCP (Jean-Francois Lamy) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: net.internat Message-ID: <839@utai.UUCP> Date: Sat, 26-Oct-85 12:57:14 EDT Article-I.D.: utai.839 Posted: Sat Oct 26 12:57:14 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 13:24:38 EDT References: <614@h-sc1.UUCP> <1817@hao.UUCP> <326@pedsgd.UUCP> Reply-To: lamy@utai.UUCP (Jean-Francois Lamy) Distribution: net Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 42 Summary: Previous traffic not a good criteria? a) Previous traffic as a justification for new newsgroup: I subscribed to net.internat only because rn offered it as a new newsgroup. I was totally unaware of such discussions elsewhere. When a new group appears, I usually subscribe to it, read a few articles, and THEN decide if it's worth the trouble. b) restricting net.internat to Europe. As far as ARBITRARILY restricting net.international to Europe, I am against it. Quite a few North Americans have another language that English as their mother tongue? Spanish is an obvious example, and I am on leave from a francophone university in a part of North-America where french is an official language, and fighting Unix to make it ingest french is a daily event... c) But who should decide? No newsgroup should be forced upon any site, not even the backbone sites. If somebody upstreams decides not to carry net.bizarre and net.international, fine. If the local site administrator really wants them, then he should get the feed from somewhere else. As much as I would like to keep net.international and get a mod.sources.mac, I guess the decision is not mine to take as a user, because it is not my money that is being spent. Administrators should administrate... d) a (naive and flamable) comment... In this era of digital long-haul networks, I find it strange that backbone sites who are able to justify such enormous amounts of money are not able to find more cost-efficient ways to transfer the bulk of data -- Jean-Francois Lamy Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto, Departement d'informatique et de recherche operationnelle, U. de Montreal. CSNet: lamy%utai@toronto.csnet UseNet: {utzoo,ihnp4,decwrl,uw-beaver}!utcsri!utai!lamy CDN: lamy@iro.udem.cdn (lamy%iro.udem.cdn@ubc.csnet)