Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site prometheus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!think!harvard!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.research,net.misc Subject: Re: Newman, Edison, Velikovsky Message-ID: <191@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Nov-85 01:29:07 EST Article-I.D.: promethe.191 Posted: Fri Nov 1 01:29:07 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Nov-85 08:26:25 EST References: <175@tulane.UUCP>, <441@looking.UUCP> <2960@ncsu.UUCP> <180@opus.UUCP> Organization: Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD Lines: 37 Xref: watmath net.physics:3520 net.research:327 net.misc:8859 See references: > > That Newman has no formal training means that he is unlikely to know > > what to say to get the attention of trained scientists. It is the > > duty of the scientists to say "If you want to convince me of that, > > this is what you'll have to do."... > Dick Dunn {hao,ucbvax,allegra}!nbires!rcd (303)444-5710 x3086 > strikes back: > Not fair. Scientists, in general, don't have the time or the reason to > guide everyone with no formal training through learning whatever > scientific principles are needed. It would be fairer to say that it is > Newman's duty to say, "What do I need to do to convince you of?..." > Well, it like this, there are hardly any Newman's left, so I would not be too concerned about the time it takes to teach one. And, the scientist is NOT the judge **unless they are also a bureau- crat :-} **, rather Reality is the test. It is the scientist's duty to test the Reality of the claims, and if they have a PhD they must in addition teach, review papers, explore and seek out truth even where no man has gone, (sorry Scotty).. to explain, and reformulate or update knowledge for ALL mankind, whenever reasonably possible, night and day at home or away, whether divorced or gainfully employed. Otherwise they should be stripped of their misgiven degree and cast out of the Holy Mother Science. And that's final. Let's humble up. :-) +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | ..umcp-cs! ..seismo!prometheus!pmk.UUCP | decade | +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+