Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!bch From: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Reform net.internat Message-ID: <629@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 11:41:12 EDT Article-I.D.: ecsvax.629 Posted: Fri Oct 25 11:41:12 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 19:34:08 EDT References: <5717@fortune.UUCP> Reply-To: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Distribution: net Organization: N C Educational Computing Service Lines: 25 Summary: I don't think the question of whether net.internat is necessary is relevant to the discussion (though I tend to think it is necessary.) I do think the rmgroup on net.internat was done without thought, and with a certain amount of dictatorial short-sightedness. There seems to be the myth lying around that all newsgroups have gone through some form of democratic voting process to be created. This isn't the case. Historically, newsgroups have been *legitimately* been created by mandate of usenix or some subgroup of usenix withough having been subjected to a network vote. If anyone decided, it was a few people at a small meeting. net.internat was created by mandate of EUNET. I have no problem with this, and I think declaring it an illegal group is an exceptionally parochial thing to do. Perhaps there should have been private discussion as to the name of net.internet among the netgods, but the group itself has sufficient legitimacy by virtue of EUNET sponsorship to bypass the voting procedure. I also refuse to honor the rmgroup. Were I on EUNET I would by highly offended by Spaf's actions. -- Byron Howes System Manager -- NCECS ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch