Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hpfcmt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!hplabs!hpfcdc!hpfcla!ron From: ron@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: Re: Phone calls selling stuff Message-ID: <17000010@hpfcmt.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 22:01:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcmt.17000010 Posted: Wed Oct 16 22:01:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Oct-85 07:02:48 EST References: <242@drutx.UUCP> Organization: 16 Oct 85 18:01:00 MST Lines: 66 More junk phone calls..... The line at our house is "We NEVER take advantage of any deals offered over the telephone. We feel telephone soliciting is an invasion of our privacy. Good bye." It works in most cases. (1 at a time) Anecdote: My wife laid this line on a female who was soliciting for XYZ (name was known at the time) Insurance. Almost immediately there was the phone ringing again. Answered, there was one word," Bitch!" followed by a click. A quick look at the yellow pages indicated there were several agents in town for this company but we thought we'd talk to one to see if there was anyone we could discuss this with from the XYZ company. Surprise ! The person who answered the phone was the same one who had hurled the insult ! How did we know ? When my wife started describing the problem, the person on the other end fired up with , " I don't what you're talking about. I have another call and have to go. (click)" I then called (switching voices now) and left a message for the agent to call me back. Just in case the message got 'lost' with the female voice, I also called his home (they put home numbers for insurance agents) and left the same 'please call back' message there too. The agent called a few hours later and I explained the situation and why we thought his solicitor was the problem. He reacted in an unexpected manner and denied that such a thing could happen even though his 14 year old daughter and her girlfriend were doing telephone soliciting UNSUPERVISED that afternoon. He pointed out that 'they are trained to not do such things.' We parted after strongly but politely disagreeing. I then called a different XYZ agent and asked this sympathetic person who the other agent's boss was. I then called the boss and explained the whole story. My point was that I was looking for satisfaction,not denial. If the agent had said he would make sure his daughter never did it again, I would have quit then but he didn't so I didn't. The supervisor understood and rendered the sympathetic reaction I was seeking and promised to show his agent how he hadn't done the reasonable thing and agreed with me. Now, picture the 14 year old girl: does naughty thing, victim calls back and recognizes her voice (what totally random luck !!!), her father comes down on her after talking to the victim's husband, THEN her father's boss comes down on her father !!!! (chortle, chortle) That's exactly the kind of thing that happens to me when I try to do something naughty. Ron Miller No one has ever gone broke UNDERestimating the intelligence of the American public ! FSD Service Engineering (Hardware Support) Hewlett-Packard Co. Ft. Collins Systems Div. Ft. Collins Colorado 303-226-3800 at: {ihnp4}hpfcla!ron