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From: YANNIS@MIT-XX.ARPA (John A. Bakopoulos)
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Subject: Re: (net-forw #194) ANTAPANTHSH (Christos Papadimitriou)
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Date: Sun, 27-Oct-85 22:39:30 EST
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Dio-treis diefkriniseis:

O synadelfos Papadimitriou den fainetai na prosexe oti
antititheme stin emphasi se BASIKH erevna, se varos EFARMOSMENIS
erevnas af enos kai EFARMOGIS tis erevnas af eterou.  I ligi
empiria pou eho apo tin katastasi stin Ellada deihnei oti poly
megalo pososto twn (anamfisvitita aneparkwn) kondyliwn
diatithetai gia kentra styl Dimokritou me miden dynanotites
praktikwn efarmogwn, pou stin kaliteri periptosi kataligoun se
dimosiefseis se xena periodika POLY MIKRIS "net present value"
gia tin Ellada (arnitikis an lavoume yp' opsin to opportunity
cost).

Fisika kai den antitithemai se kathe erevna, an afto ennoei o
synadelfos Papadimitriou.  I ousia tis ypothesis einai stin
epilogi ton tomewn pou theloume na kanoume erevna.  Fysika
kat'arhin tha prepei na kanoume KATI se KATHE tomea (the
marginal value of ANY productive investment is positive at
investment amount zero).  Dystihws omws prepei na
antimetopisoume tin pragmatikotita tis anangis kapoiou
"allocation of resources".  Kai proteinw oti i ypothesi tou
synadelfou Papadimitriou oti i diethnis empiria kai
pragmatikotita proteinei oti prepei na dothei (isi) protereotita
se erevna "sto metopo tis epistimis" san proypothesi
technologikis anaptyxis einai lanthasmeni.  (Xwris, pros theou,
na amfisvitw tin proswpiki axia tis etherovamonas erevnas, i to
dikaiwma tou Papadimitriou i opoioudipote allou na tin kanei.
Aplws tin shetiki hrisimotita apenanti se erevna paromoiou
epipedou me poio efarmosmenous skopous).

Kai ohi, den fovamai oti to kratos dinei ypervoliki proteraiotita stin
"erevna".  (-: Aplws proteinw anti oi kyvernwntes na syzitan kai
na kanoun shedia vasikis erevnas pou pote den tha efarmostoun,
na xanoun ton kairo tous toulahiston se anefarmosta shedia gia
metafora tehnologias. :-)

Afta san diefkrinisi, kai antapodidontas ta heretismata tou
Papadimitriou, pou kata symptosi episis ehw hronia na ton dw,
	Cheers,
		Yannis Bakopoulos
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