Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mmm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!mmm!cipher From: cipher@mmm.UUCP (Andre Guirard) Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: Spock's Honesty Message-ID: <252@mmm.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 14:02:12 EST Article-I.D.: mmm.252 Posted: Fri Oct 25 14:02:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 8-Nov-85 21:56:54 EST References: <823@voder.UUCP> <392@ucdavis.UUCP> Reply-To: cipher@mmm.UUCP (Andre Guirard) Distribution: na Organization: 3M Company, St. Paul, Minn. Lines: 20 In article <392@ucdavis.UUCP> ccs020@ucdavis.UUCP (Kevin Chu) writes: >> > In the discussion of Spock's honesty, has anyone brought up the fact >> > that Spock may have lied when discussing his race's honesty? >> >> Now listen to me carefully, Norman. I am lying! > > Spock didn't say that. Harry Mudd said it after Kirk told Norman > that everything Mudd says is a lie. > True, but I do recall Spock fibbing on other occasions. For instance, he told several lies in the episode (whose name I can't recall) in which the Romulan cloaking device was introduced. On other occasions Spock has told lies or made deceptive statements when it was necessary, as in the episode quoted above, where he tells a pair of the Alices that he loves one of them, but hates the other. In short, whether or not to tell the truth is subject to the same relentless Vulcan logic as everything else. He tells the truth when it suits him. Of course he claims to tell the truth always because his occasional lies are more effective if people believe this.