Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!allegra!alice!jj From: jj@alice.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Please forget all about ties! Message-ID: <4492@alice.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Oct-85 13:43:42 EST Article-I.D.: alice.4492 Posted: Mon Oct 28 13:43:42 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Oct-85 04:28:45 EST Organization: New Jersey State Farm for the Terminally Bewildered Lines: 35 Ok people, this is net.women, where we're talking about the problems facing women (and men) in society. In particular we talk about things taht society forces on one sex or the other. My point about neckties was intended to show that both sexes suffer from ignorant rules of society. I made the point in order to rebut a comment from another individual that it was "only women who suffered..." in this particular regard. There is no point in discussing what sort of shirt I should buy. I KNOW about dress shirts, I know about the "Custom Shop", and in fact at this point I have my dress shirts made there, so that they DO fit. OK? IT DOESN'T HELP! AND that is totally unimportant. What is important is that both sexes suffer from imbecillic rules, societal pressures and the like. Most people here don't disagree, but some clearly do. Anyone who thinks that men don't suffer when people like Ellen are convinced to learn such a divisive and unhappy attitude, for example, isn't thinking. For that matter, those of you who inadvertantly confirm that attitude aren't helping anyone, either. phew. 'U' -- EVEN TEDDY BEARS HAVE LIMITED PATIENCE. "Sunset and evening star, and one clear call for netnews..." (ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj