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From: lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: The Wall
Message-ID: <812@masscomp.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 31-Oct-85 09:06:07 EST
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Posted: Thu Oct 31 09:06:07 1985
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Reply-To: lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski)
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Keywords: self-indulgent whining, divorce
Summary: 

>> I agree that "The Wall" reflects at times the self-indulgent and egotistical 
>> tendencies of the writer.  However, that's not enough for it to be called
>> "ridiculous".  In fact, I think many artists (assuming Roger Waters is an 
>> artist) share these same qualities and tendencies.  Eccentricities and
>> obseessions often are characteristics of exceptional artists.   For example,
>> John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Picasso, Beethoven, Dostoyevsky, Milton, ...
>> I think to single Roger Waters out by calling "The Wall" "ridiculous" is 
>> unfair. [LIPINSKI]
>
>The difference is that the others had something worth saying about their
>experiences, and didn't succumb to melodramatic whining (even Lennon's
>first solo album, a real catharsis, has more real power than self-pity).
>[ROSEN]

Well, I think you've slipped into a matter of personal opinion: the worth 
of expression about personal experiences.  I know people who don't relate
to Beethoven but that's the way it is.  I guess I relate to Waters' expression
and experiences more than you.  Do you have any more concrete or objective
comments?

>His message wasn't
>effective to me, nothing of substance other than the whining came across.
>Though there IS some great music on the album. [ROSEN]

Sure.  I primarily listen to the music and consider the words/written message 
secondary.

	- John
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