Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site emacs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!cca!emacs!pz From: pz@emacs.UUCP (Paul Czarnecki) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: The Best This-ism, Bush-Mania, Frip Message-ID: <110@emacs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 10:31:15 EDT Article-I.D.: emacs.110 Posted: Fri Oct 25 10:31:15 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 19:10:27 EDT References: <22300026@ada-uts.UUCP> Reply-To: pz@emacs.UUCP (Paul Czarnecki) Organization: Uniworks Inc., Wellesley, MA Lines: 61 Keywords: art music squid Summary: truth and beauty In article <22300026@ada-uts.UUCP> wayne@ada-uts.UUCP writes: > >This'll be the first note I've ever sent, so be gentle... This is probably one of best written article in net.music in a long time. You seem to have a fine command of the language and you can get your points across clearly and consisely. I can't claim to be a net.authority or an oldtimer, but if you are new at this, congratulations. Please, lets hear more from you in the future. (It also helps that I mostly agree with you! :-) >But I'm not totally knocking Phil Collins...he is probably the most >prolific pop music generator around today ("In The Air Tonight" is in >my opinion one of his best songs...why can't he do more like them? The >obvious answer: pop music listeners don't want them). But I ask myself >when I listen to one of his songs: what is missing? Give Phil another chance. But wait! don't listen to anything that he has done recently. Phil has sold out. Try "Hello I Must Be Going" and "Face Values". I haven't listened to these recently but I remeber them as being pretty good. >The answers, which are my criteria for categorizing music, is the feeling >and the originality of the music. The feeling is very important. So true! And people like Madonna, Cyndi Lauper etc sing what I call corporate rock. It is not music. People like Fripp, Hendrix (I like them too!), Bowie, Springsteen (maybe?...), Bush, Birdsongs of the Mezazoic (local Boston), DEVO (1st album only), Peter Gabriel (III, and Security), Fibonacci's, Zappa, Bill Nelson, know how to feel their music. Interestingly enough, I also like music that is totally devoi of emotion. Listen to John Foxx's solo album called Metamatic, or any of the Gary Numan albums. Also give a listen to the Kraftwerk albums. The difference between these cold, emotionless musicians and the corporat rock "musicians" is that Lauper et et. are faking it! There is no feeling (exceept perhaps greed) intheir music. > Wayne Wylupski Love turns to lust, Ice into fire, Open your heart, To my flaming desire. pZ -- -- Flushed from the bathroom of your heart. Paul Czarnecki Uniworks, Inc. decvax!{cca,wanginst!infinet}!emacs!pz 20 William Street emacs!pz@cca-unix.ARPA Wellesley, MA 02181 (617) 235-2600