Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site celtics.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!pesnta!amd!amdcad!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!bu-cs!celtics!roger From: roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger Klorese) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.arch Subject: Re: more on the 386!Message-ID: <927@celtics.UUCP> Date: Tue, 5-Nov-85 08:59:12 EST Article-I.D.: celtics.927 Posted: Tue Nov 5 08:59:12 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 11-Nov-85 05:21:29 EST References: <8@i80386.UUCP> <491@enmasse.UUCP> Reply-To: roger@celtics.UUCP (Roger Klorese) Organization: Celerity Computing (Eastern Region), Framingham, MA Lines: 41 Keywords: 80386 hype vs. technoboob nitpicking Xref: watmath net.micro:12649 net.arch:2067 Summary: USENET ~= Technical In article <491@enmasse.UUCP> dave@enmasse.UUCP (Dave Brownell) writes: >In article <8@i80386.UUCP> kds@i80386.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker) writes: >> First, thanks for all the offers of congratulations! Second, an apology >> for this note being a little late, I was out of town for a while, but as >> a result, unix has now been running on the 386 on 3 continents! > >***** FLAMES ON MEDIUM > >Looks like there's now a USENET machine dedicated to deluging us with >i80386 ADVERTISING. > >THERE IS NO REASON FOR MOST OF IT TO BE ON USENET. Only numbers 3 & 4 >are technical. Number 5 is also of interest to technoids. But the rest, >and the size, are suitable only for marketing pronouncements. This is not a TECHNICAL network. It is a USER'S network. I use UNIX-based machines in a technical AND marketing role - I'm a customer support representative. It's of interest to me. Get your head out of your white socks and penholder. Information is information, and for a poor merely-semi-techie like myself, it's more memorable and of more use sugar-coated than as YASSS (Yet Another Stupid Spec Sheet). Besides which, it should be the role of impartial folks - Livermore, Jack Dongarra, etc., to publish benchmarks. Anyone who believes vendor generated performance numbers deserves what they get. (Which, at the risk of over-marketing-hyping you, Celerity supplies the Livermore Loops and Argonne numbers, as well as a copy of Whetstone you can run YOURSELF on our system.) LIGHTEN UP. We don't ALL live in a world of MIPS, FIPS, WHIPS, DRIPS, and (most of all) dips. -- ... "What were you expecting, rock'n'roll?" Roger B.A. Klorese Celerity Computing, 40 Speen St., Framingham, MA 01701, (617) 872-1772 UUCP: seismo!harvard!bu-cs!celtics!roger ARPA: celtics!roger@bu-cs.ARPA