Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hpfcmt.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!hplabs!hpfcdc!hpfcla!roger From: roger@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.ham-radio Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <19700019@hpfcmt.UUCP> Date: Thu, 7-Nov-85 18:33:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcmt.19700019 Posted: Thu Nov 7 18:33:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 13-Nov-85 03:46:55 EST References: <2549@brl-tgr.UUCP> Organization: 07 Nov 85 16:33:00 MST Lines: 67 >Depends on what you think of as ham radio. I rather enjoy reading about >that sort of thing, as it has something technical to it. On the other >hand, if I have to read (thank G*d for rn's kill files!) one more >article about lower-than-30MHZ-conversations-with-some-unknown-little- >forsaken-island-using-some-foreign-manufactured-rice-rocket-hooked-up- >to-some-store-bought-heap-of-aluminum-for-a-grand-total-of-10-seconds-to >exchange-signal-reports, I'll puke. > >Ham radio is a diverse hobby. I'm in it for the technical aspects, and >to learn more about radio, television, digital, and other modes of >communications. If I just want to talk to somebody, I'll use the >telephone. Its cheaper and more reliable. > > BRAVO!!! I agree whole heartedly with Brian. What ever happend to the Ham Radio of build it yourself/fix it yourself. These days the majority of the rigs we hear on the air are Japanese rice-boxes operated by glorified CB appliance operators. What about perpetuating a pool of "trained radio technicians." Wasn't this part of Ham Radio (or something to that effect) the reason for Ham Radio in the first place? What about the propagation of international brotherhood? Since when does "Your five-nine in Ohio 73..." propagate brotherhood? Have you ever tried to demonstrate the hobby to a newcomer on a conversation such as that?! What kind of accomplishment is it to contact "some-unknown-little-foresaken-island" using maximum legal power and a big store-bought antenna just to exchange false (usually) signal reports? Some suggest removing the code requirement. If that's done, then really what would be the difference between Amateur Radio and CB, other than the fact that skip is legalized on Ham Radio. The day that is done, I send my license in for cancellation! >So please! Tolerate the not-ham-radio-the way-the-ARRL-invented-it >traffic as well as the more traditional stuff here in ham-rado. Some of >us like it! > > Brian Kantor, WB6CYT > Whoever said that the ARRL is the god of amateur radio? They seem to have put themselves in that position for the primary reasons of self-propagation. Afterall, the more unsophisticated amateurs there are, the more suckers there are likely to be who will send that good-for-nothing organization membership fees. I learned early, I quit after one year. They are the biggest offender of commercialization of amateur radio. Their magazine (not a journal by any means!) used to have some good technical articles. Now it is mainly filled with useless statistics and adds for Japanese junk! To conclude my flame, I'm all for technical talk on this note category! Technical discussion is part of the hobby. As far as political debates, I feel that it should find another category since it is not at all related to amateur radio. Roger Jollis KU6I Fort Collins, Colorado DE KU6I QRQ QSX 3520 KHZ K "We're all entitled to our own opinions." Any opinions here stated are entirely my own and in no way reflect the policies or opinions of my employer.