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From: ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: amateurs
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Date: Sun, 27-Oct-85 12:43:32 EST
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Posted: Sun Oct 27 12:43:32 1985
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Jeff Sonntag writes, in a reply which very clearly shows how much of my
article he actually read, and hence the rather severe limits of his
attention span:


>Ted Holden writes:
>>    If there's any one question we catastrophists get tired of answering, it's
>>the whole thing about the lawsof physics supposedly denying the POSSIBILITY of
>> any of Velikovsky's  scenarios.
>
>     I should think you *would* get tired of trying to square all of the
>contortions V's scenarios require with known physical laws.  One would almost
>expect you to give up and claim that these amazing effects were due to the
>operation of hitherto unknown and unsuspected physical laws.
>     But maybe I'm being too harsh on Ted.  Even he isn't irrational enough
>to suggest something like that.  Or is he?
>>
>> >    Well, since no experiment has ever shown any relation between gravity
>>>and electromagnetism,and since manytypes of magnetic field generating systems
>> >can reverse their field without affecting the size of the gravity well they
>> >produce, I'll have to *guess* that the past reversals of the Earth's
>> >magnetic field were unaccompanied by any changes in its gravitational field.
>>
>>     That's just  a guess,  Jeff.  Albert Einstein spent the last years of his
>>life looking for that very connection (theunified field theory), and died with
>> a copy  of "Worlds  in Collision" open on his desk.
>
>    Ever heard of slander laws, Ted?
>
>>  I have always heard rumors
>>that Velikovsky's theories concerning a historical change inthe felt effect of
>> gravity had something to do with Einstein's interest in this area.
>
>     Well, there you have it, folks.  He's (apparently) given up on the 'tidal
>effects from the immensely larger Saturn sun which the earth orbited closely
>about' theory and switched to the 'mysterious unknown forces rumored to have
>something to do with unified field theory but which no one knows anything about
>or has ever heard of' theory.
>     Stay tuned for further developments.
>--
>Jeff Sonntag
>ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j
>    "Now, I don't believe in doing anything half-way, or in watered-down
>     versions of ANYTHING." - Ted Holden, noted Veliskovskian.
    
    As I stated in the article, it's the amateurs who have these problems with
the laws of physics....  I probably should have included ASPIRING amateurs like
Sonntag.  I certainly haven't given up my belief in gravity;  the moon causes
tides, Venus which is larger than the moon once caused all hell to break loose
on this planet (as can be read in "Worlds in Collision), and Saturn, even in
it's present state, is much larger than either.  I am simply leaving open the
possibility that forces OTHER than gravity itself may have played a role in 
the state of affairs, gravity-wise, which prevailed on this planet prior to
the flood.

    Ever heard of electricity, Sonntag?  It lives in the little holes you
see around the baseboards of houses.......