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From: dta@cpsc53.UUCP (Doug Anderson)
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Subject: Re: Il accuse...
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Date: Tue, 5-Nov-85 12:29:43 EST
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>      Finally, I  want to give my   own opinion  about fighting for peace.  I
> think that  the fact  that I  mixed these  personal views  with the argument
> above in  the previous entry made  things a  bit difficult to understand, or
> perhaps too  easy to  misunderstand. I    think that  if you  want to   make
> something positive for peace, the only way is to be a man of peace yourself,
> in your surroundings. I have often   expressed that I find a bit  ridiculous
> that people who got  the Nobel prize for peace were not even able to live in
> peace with  their own wife; I  know at least of one of them who has divorced
> and remarried  twice or thrice. Let me also mention the women in England who
> camped at an air base to  fight for peace, but they stayed there for so long
> that some  of the husbands divorced...   Of course,  you could say that  you
> cannot do enough by just staying in your own small surroundings; I think you
> can, and that if  you have  got peace *inside* yourself,  if you are able to
> live in  peace  with your family,  your neighbours,  your collegues at work,
> then and only then you are a man or a woman of peace.
> 
>     Ladies and gentlemen, these were my views. The argument about Greenpeace
> vs. France  can be flamed, but I don't  think you can flame somebody for his
> opinion, at least not in our  countries. But I am open to  exchange of views
> and disagreements; it is your right to disagree and to have another opinion,
> I won't flame you for that. Therefore, *flames* about the previous paragraph
> will   be  ignored, but  open-minded discussion   will  be accepted  without
> hesitation.
> 
> -- 
> --- Karl Tombre @ CRIN (Centre de Recherche en Informatique de Nancy)
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> POST:    Karl Tombre, CRIN, B.P. 239, 54506 VANDOEUVRE CEDEX, France
> 
> I have found peace with God and with all humans.

	HERE HERE!!!! a voice of reason cries out!!!!!!


	While I found the actions of the French government
	distastefull in the Greenpeace affair I completely
	agree with your observations.  At the risk of pontificating
	"those who live by the sword surely will die by it"

	Your comment about being a "man or woman of peace" is
	well stated.  Examples of people claiming to be men of
	peace while practiceing violent acts abound in the
	history of the world, from Caeser, to Stalin, to
	Hitler, to name a few of the better known.

	Sir, I don't know who you are or your political
	affiliations, etc. but if more people in this messed
	up world had your opinions it is my opinion that we
	would all be better off.

	Thank you for a very enjoyable posting.  It's nice to
	see someone use the net for constructive comments
	instead of destructive flames.


	Douglas T Anderson
	Orlando, Florida  USA

	My opinions are strictly my own and do not reflect the
	opinions of anyone I work for or are associated with
	in any shape of fashion.