Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site x.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!x!wjr From: wjr@x.UUCP (Bill Richard) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: When are you a man/woman? Message-ID: <812@x.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Oct-85 20:44:55 EDT Article-I.D.: x.812 Posted: Tue Oct 22 20:44:55 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 07:44:36 EDT References: <2017@reed.UUCP> Reply-To: wjr@x.UUCP (STella Calvert) Organization: Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA Lines: 38 In article <2017@reed.UUCP> ellen@reed.UUCP (Ellen Eades) writes: >> STella Calvert, aka mrswjr >> > Jeff Lichtman > >> >While it's true that one shouldn't have sex until one is mature enough to >> >handle it, but it doesn't follow that having sex turns one into an adult. >> A female human being old enough to have sex IS a woman -- if she falls for >> this line, she is a STUPID woman. > >I know Stella meant well, but I have to nitpick here, sorry: >I'm not sure what she means by "old enough to have sex". By old enough to have sex, I meant the biology works, the urges are in place. I was _old enough_ to have sex when I was thirteen. For reasons ranging from "age of consent" laws to the clap epidemic in my neighborhood I refrained till I was post-jailbait and met someone I trusted to avoid disease if possible, and treat it if it occurred. Jeff and I weren't talking about babyrape. But I say again, a woman who falls for manipulation of the sort Jeff mentioned, is stupid. And there is no way I or anyone else can protect the fool from her folly. By the way, I had a relative who attempted to molest me, starting when I was about four. Since he made me feel funny, I pissed on his lap every time he picked me up. Didn't take too long to re-educate him, either. Wish I'd told my mom, though -- she thought I had a bladder problem, when I had an uncle problem. STella Calvert Every man and every woman is a star. Guest on: ...!decvax!frog!wjr Life: Baltimore!AnnArbor!Smyrna!!SantaCruz!Berkeley!AnnArbor!Taxachussetts Future: ... (!L5!TheBelt!InterstellarSpace)