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From: chris@umcp-cs.UUCP (Chris Torek)
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Subject: Re: Middle Earth (Tolkien) Questions
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Date: Sun, 10-Nov-85 03:31:13 EST
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My other lead was better, and I have discovered that what I was
told was in fact wrong.  (When I teased Bregil---he was the one
that told me the tale---about his `failing memory', he claimed that
he remembered it correctly, and it must have been the fault of
another.  Ah well, I have learned not to trust so much in
half-remembered stories.  This at least is from a written record,
that I found---not without help---in Elrond's great store.  Someone
needs to index these on a computer!)

All the Great Rings save the One were made by Celebrimbor.  The
Nine and the Seven were made with the aid of Sauron himself, who
was still at that time fair to behold.  The Three were made after
Sauron had gone off to Numenor (I need a keyboard with accents!).
When Sauron made the One, Celebrimbor was aware of it (having been
rather suspicious for some time), and so all the rings had been
given out or hidden by the time Sauron made his attack on Eregion;
but Celebrimbor was captured and tortured, and revealed the locations
of the Seven and the Nine.  The Three remained hidden, though
Galadriel wrote that she thought Sauron guessed who had them.

It is said (but *not* written, or at least not in Elrond's copy of
that record by Galadriel) that the ring of Durin III was given to
him by Celebrimbor himself; this matches what the Dwarves remember,
so it is probably the truth.  The remainder of the Seven, and most
or all of the Nine, were probably given away by Celebrimbor as
well, but he never wrote down just where, and no one else that I
have asked remembers.
-- 
Lindor, alias Chris Torek, Univ of MD Comp Sci Dept (+1 301 454 4251)
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