Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.10 $; site ndm20 Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!convex!ndm20!tp From: tp@ndm20 Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: mod.computers.* vs. notes Message-ID: <5000015@ndm20> Date: Mon, 4-Nov-85 08:28:00 EST Article-I.D.: ndm20.5000015 Posted: Mon Nov 4 08:28:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Nov-85 08:14:36 EST References: <5000014@ndm20> Lines: 35 Nf-ID: #R:ndm20:5000014:ndm20:5000015:000:1837 Nf-From: ndm20!tp Nov 4 07:28:00 1985 /* Written 7:27 am Nov 4, 1985 by tp@ndm20 in ndm20:net.news.notes */ Are you sure that a shortname site must use the alias feature on any name that is longer than 14 characters? I don't use the alias feature at all. I am a shortname site connected to a longname site. As long as I pass all the notes utilities the long name, all works well. I think that your proposal is correct except that there is no reason to avoid mod.proto.kermit:mod.protocols.kermit in the shortname site's alias file, and no need whatsoever to put in an alias for things like net.religion.christian. Your proposal is good, but such hassles should not be neccessary. Since all non-4.2 notes sites have this problem, ALL GROUP NAMES SHOULD BE UNIQUE IN THE FIRST 14 CHARACTERS. There is no reason for not doing this. Mr. Fair has unilateraly decided to do it, despite response before and after in net.news.group that the names should be shortened. His only response so far is upgrade or tough luck. He has decided that it is acceptable (to him) to force all non-4.2 notes administrators to go through the hassles of maintaining alias files, a hassle that they have never had to worry about before. This is an ongoing concern. It is a safe bet that future names invented by him will have a similar lack of concern for the rest of the net. The proper solution is to RENAME THE DAMNED GROUPS. That is the only solution that makes sense. Besides, if a shortname site with a redundant feed refuses to hassle with the alias files, the groups will cross-pollenate, so to speak. Terry Poot Nathan D. Maier Consulting Engineers (214)739-4741 Usenet: ...!{allegra|ihnp4}!convex!smu!ndm20!tp CSNET: ndm20!tp@smu ARPA: ndm20!tp%smu@csnet-relay.ARPA /* End of text from ndm20:net.news.notes */