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From: joel@gould9.UUCP (Joel West)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: Topology, connectivity, and garbage
Message-ID: <173@gould9.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 2-Nov-85 13:34:19 EST
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Posted: Sat Nov  2 13:34:19 1985
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In article <787@adobe.UUCP>, greid@adobe.UUCP (Glenn Reid) writes:
> I think that a completely separate connectivity should be gradually built
> for the USENET news system, with minimal centralized control, in such a
> way that the all-or-nothing scenario which is cropping up is not a problem.

It would help.  I'm not sure this isn't being done already.
But if backbones are bitching about paying the feed for some groups,
they should only feed those groups to "free" sites (ie, local or
dedicated lines) and let their long-distance connections find
another path to get net.flame.all.  Eventually, only the people
who want to pay the bill would be paying for it.

> Let's have a few constructive ideas, people.  All I see in
> this group is one of the following arguments:
> 1)	The net is not free and there are a few great guys doing a great
> 	job and I support them 100%.
> 2)	The net and the whole world are free and egalitarian and I happen
> 	to like net.movies and I think I may just ignore that rmgroup and
> 	I pay very few phonebills, myself.
> Glenn Reid

Amen.  It seems that there's no meeting of the minds between the
net-anarchists and net-gods, so it makes it difficult for net-moderates
to reach a consensus.  As a result, each do what they want to do
and the rest of us suffer.

	Joel West	 CACI, Inc. Federal
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The ultimate form of recent anarchy was cancelling someone else's posting!