Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site pedsgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!petsd!pedsgd!bobh From: bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) Newsgroups: net.comics Subject: Re: Jean Grey Message-ID: <331@pedsgd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 08:30:20 EST Article-I.D.: pedsgd.331 Posted: Tue Oct 29 08:30:20 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 30-Oct-85 07:20:50 EST References: <878@cvl.UUCP> <2021@reed.UUCP> <317@pedsgd.UUCP> <900@cvl.UUCP> Reply-To: bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) Distribution: net Organization: Perkin-Elmer, Tinton Falls, NJ Lines: 47 In article <900@cvl.UUCP> kayuucee@cvl.UUCP (Kenneth W. Crist Jr.) writes: >> If you go by the original Claremont timeline vs. the atrocity we >> now have foisted on us, there was never a dichotomy between >> Jean and Phoenix. She had her powers stripped from her after >> the battle on the Moon in #137, married Scott, and they had Rachel. >> So Rachel IS the child of Scott and Jean, not the spawn of some >> pan-dimensional being playing at human. >> >> Bob Halloran >> Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG > > But the whole point is that the person on the moon WAS Phoenix, >NOT Jean Grey. So in Rachael's timeline the newly de-powered Phoenix >marries Scott and has Rachael. Appearantly, the Jean Grey of Racheal's >timeline was never recovered that she knows of. It would be interesting >to see if the Sentinals were able to detect her in Jamacia Bay and went >and killed her. > I think this whole matter stinks. Madelyn Pryor is getting the short >end of the stick and even though she is the Phoenix she is still a great >character. > > Star-Lord Doesn't wash, I feel. If the Phoenix is a being of pure energy by nature, how could they strip her of 'herself'? To borrow a line from Scotty in Blish's 'Spock Must Die' novel, "I'd sooner stick a thirteen-amp tap directly into God". :-) I think my original proposition is still right; in Rachel's timeline Jean Grey had her powers amplified to cosmic levels; after the Shi'ar battle they stripped her of this, she and Scott were married and had Rachel. The dichotomy arose when Jim Sh**ter decided it was a good idea to bring her back and needed to rationalize it; 'Oh, that wasn't really Jean all that time, it was a deus-ex-machina we brought in so we could bring the real Jean back later and invalidate the whole Phoenix storyline.' Jeff, JEFF!!!, when is Sh*ter coming to trial in SPC? PLEEEASSSE!!! Bob Halloran Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {topaz, pesnta, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Quote:"BOO! We changed Coke again! BLEAH! BLEAH!" - The Boogums, 'Bloom County'