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From: tommie@psivax.UUCP (Tom Levin)
Newsgroups: net.audio
Subject: Re: Dynamic Headroom/Carver Power Amps/NAD 2200/Hafler 220
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Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 21:10:47 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct 17 21:10:47 1985
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Reply-To: tommie@psivax.UUCP (Tom Levin)
Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA
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Keywords: I NEED MORE POWER!!!!!!!!!!

In article <184@birtch.UUCP> oleg@birtch.UUCP (Oleg Kiselev x268) writes:
>
>Both M500t and M400 are heavily discounted novadays... But they still cost more
>than new NAD2200 (?). I have not heared it yet. Older NADs were not anywere 
>near Carver league.

I listened to the NAD 2200 last weekend at the local snob-shop.  Along
with the amp was an NAD preamplifier (don't recall the model), an NAD
cd player (I really disliked the cd player, but that is a different
subject altogether...), and a pair of Infinity speakers (don't know
the model but they had 2-12" woofers, a 2" dome mid-range, and an
EMIT tweeter).  I brought the telarc recording of the 1812 overture
along with Dave Grusins "Mountain Dance" (both discs are DDD).  

So how did I like it?  The amp put out a LOT of sound.  I was really
quite impressed by the sheer volume that the infinity/NAD combination
put out.  It's really hard to separate the sound of the speakers from
the amplifier since I didn't listen to any other amps, so I can't tell
you "hey, this amp sounds great".  While it is true that the NAD has lots of
headroom (just read stereo review this month! :-)), when I put 
on the 1812 CD, the cannons caused the amp to shut down (I told the 
salesman, "you better turn it down pal!...Sheesh...they never listen! :-)).
Anyways he turned it way down and we replayed the cannons...it still shut
down!  Then he put on "Time Warp" by Eric Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops...
that CD also shut the NAD down!

What I'm trying to say is that even at what I considered reasonable
levels, these CD's shut the amp down!  The dynamic range of the NAD
is supposedly 6db too!  I was going to compare the Hafler to the NAD,
but it was in the next room and I was a little discouraged anyways
cuz the NAD is more powerful (more watts and more dynamic headroom) 
than the Hafler.

Like they say in the old monster movies, "I need more POWER!  I know
you think I am crazy...you probably think I am a lunatic...but I need
more POWER!!!"
I am thinking about trying to find 2 used Carver cubes (400t) and run 
them in mono (that would be 400 watts/channel).  Am I crazy????
-- 
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Tom Levin {ttidca|sdcrdcf|logico|scgvaxd|bellcore}!psivax!tommie

You've seen those car stickers that say "Baby on Board"???
				_________
I want one that says:	       /         \
			      / Psychotic \
			     /	   On      \
			     \	  Board    /
			      \___________/