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From: thill@ssc-bee.UUCP (Tom Hill)
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Subject: Re: BIG TEN VS PAC TEN
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Date: Tue, 5-Nov-85 11:47:55 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov  5 11:47:55 1985
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> 
> Obviously this poor deluded fool would prefer to antagonize than to be
						   ^^^^^^^^^^

	It would seem that this was also your intent.

> informative.  As I read and write to this notesfile for a purpose, let's
> shatter some myths:

	Yes, let us just do that.

> 
> The Big Ten last won the Rose Bowl in the mid seventies (I don't remember the
> exact year), so it hasn't been all that long.  Too, despite the last few

	Mid seventies and not that long ago is a contradiction in terms.

> years of a consecutive Pac 10 streak, the Big Ten still leads in career 
> victories in the Rose Bowl.  NOW Who's Zooming Who?  Too, the records of the

	But we are talking about today not the bygone days.

> Pac 10 rep in the Rose Bowl has been worse than the record of the Big Ten rep
> for the last five years!  The Big Ten team goes in expecting it to be easy,

	What difference does that make?  Does it mean we have better 
	competition out here?  Hmmm.

> and it hasn't been.  Once reason is hhome field advantage.  For the last five
> years, the Pac 10 rep in the Rose Bowl has been USC or UCLA, both really close

	Wrong.  Washington beat Iowa in the 1981 Rosebowl.

> to the Rose Bowl site.  I know for a fact that the Big Ten does NOT receive 
> the selling rights to half of the seats in the stadium (a third if we're lucky,
> usually a fourth to a sixth of them), so the majority of spectators are Pac 10
> fans.  And since that d*mn stadium is like an echo chamber, crowd noise is a
> big factor.  If the Pac 10 fans would be good sportsman and let the teams
> themselves battle the game, perhaps the Pac 10 would not have enjoyed its
> "dynasty" of Rose Bowl victories in the last few years.  At least the Big Ten
> can say that they had huge streaks of consecutive victories at the Rose Bowl
> when good and proper sportsmanship was in vogue, so the Big Ten team beat the
> Pac 10'er fair and square.  I doubt the same thing can be said of the Pac 10
> presently.
> 
> Robert A. Ekblaw

As for this last paragraph... what a cry baby.  The reason big Ten teams lose
is because they can't handle a passing offense.  Last season all four Pac Ten
teams that went to bowl games won!  Also, after watching a couple Ohio State
games on TV your comment about croud noise and fair play falls on deaf ears :-)

Next time I suggest that you buy some good ripe grapes.


Regards,

Tom Hill