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From: kre@munnari.OZ (Robert Elz)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: Missing news in the new "mod" groups
Message-ID: <1003@munnari.OZ>
Date: Sun, 10-Nov-85 16:23:33 EST
Article-I.D.: munnari.1003
Posted: Sun Nov 10 16:23:33 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 11-Nov-85 08:05:22 EST
References: <1001@munnari.OZ> <179@gould9.UUCP> <1@im4u.UUCP>
Organization: Comp Sci, Melbourne Uni, Australia
Lines: 33
Summary: My worst fears are confirmed - the ucbvax gateway is a disaster

Munnari received the following article in mod.telecom a few minutes
ago, I'd be willing to bet that a reasonable fraction of the net
will never see it ...

(I have deleted immaterial header lines, and the text, in the
interests of brevity)

> Path: munnari!seismo!cbosgd!ucbvax!ihnp4!kitty!larry
> From: ihnp4!kitty!larry@UCBVAX
> Newsgroups: mod.telecom
> Message-ID: <8511092155.AA01482@ucbvax.berkeley.edu>
> Date: 9 Nov 85 21:55:47 GMT
> Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU

Notice - the article was sent to the telecom mailing list
from the address on the "From" line.  From whichever site
actually maintains the list, it was sent to Berkeley to be
gatewayed to mod.telecom (the fact that the mail item happened
to be routed to the arpa list via ucbvax is irrelevant).

Now look at the "Path" line.  That claims that the article
arrived at ucbvax from ihnp4 - so this article will never
be sent there.  Anyone who gets news from ihnp4 (probably
a few sites there!) is going to miss this one completely.
Of course, the poster's site (kitty) is going to miss it
in any case, even if they have a news feed other than
from ihnp4.

Erik: this MUST be fixed.  John's solution (in <1@im4u.UUCP>)
looks to be the best that is possible (that is, send replies
to the "request" mailbox of the list maintainer).

Robert Elz	...!seismo!munnari!kre  kre%munnari.oz@seismo.css.gov