Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!greipa!pesnta!hplabs!sdcrdcf!ucla-cs!dim From: dim@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.nlang.greek Subject: Gia osous PRAGMATIKA tha gurisoun styn Ellada Message-ID: <7245@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 02:54:07 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.7245 Posted: Thu Oct 24 02:54:07 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 27-Oct-85 06:31:21 EST Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 82 Apeuthynomai se osous Ellynes spoudazoun sto exwteriko se thetikes epistymes y etoimazontai gia tetoies spoudes. Eidika apeuthynomai se OSOUS THELOUN NA GURISOUN STYN ELLADA kai THELOUN NA KANOUN KATI HRYSIMO GIA TYN PATRIDA me tis gnwseis pou tha paroun. Aformy pairnw apo to munyma tou Petrou Petropoulou pou san ylekrologos myhanikos(;), pou thelei na kanei metaptuhiakes spoudes styn Ameriky, dialegei ton tomea tou ylektromagnytikou pediou, pros megaly mou apogoyteusy mia kai me vriskei teleiws antitheto mia tetoia epilogy. Dustoihws oi perisoteroi apo mas epilegoun to pedio twn spoudwn tous me deutereuonta krityria, opws to poio mathyma mas arese styn Ellada y se poio tomea kaname ty diplwmatiky mas, kai oxi me to spoudaiotero krityrio tou ti tha kanoume epagelmatika sto mellon. Dylady leipei apo tis apofaseis mas "o epagelmatikos prosanatolismos" pou toso aneptugmeno exoun oi Amerikanoi spoudastes pou ton xreiazontai ligwtero apo mas. Dioti mia epilogy sumfwna me to poio mathyma mas arese y pou kaname ty diplwmatiky mas (kai ta duo kata kanona perissotero tuhaia) einai apodekty apo mia hwra tou megethous kai tys anaptuxys tys Amerikys alla einai shetiky poluteleia gia tyn Ellada. Y Ellada, ektos pou einai mikry kai den borei na sykwsei oles tis eidikotytes, exei meinei kai pisw sxetika me tis alles hwres tys Dusys. To apotelesma tys diaforas einai oti y paragwgy twn proiontwn mas, twn kataskeuwn mas kai twn epistymonikwn upyresiwn mas (opws mia melety gia ty molinsy tys Athynas) usterei sxetika me twn allwn xwrwn kai apo pleuras poiotytas (Ameriky, Voreia Eurwpy klp) kai apo pleuras kostous (Taiwan klp) me apotelesma na eisagoume ta panta. Osoi loipon endiaferontai na voyhysoun epistymonika tyn Ellada tha prepei na antilyfthoun oti y veltiwsy tys paragwgys (poiotyta kai kostos) exei safws prwteraiwtyta apenanti se thewrytikes ergasies (opws sta AEI opou vasika paragoume papers gia ta Amerikanika periodika kai exoume kai tyn apaitysy o Ellynikos laos na mas plyrwnei gia auto). Hreiazomaste perissotero anaptuxy tehnologias para anaptuxy ereunas pou tha prepei na akolouthysei argotera. Akomy kai y efarmosmeny ereuna einai ahrysty (kuriolektika aeras) an sto telos den parahthei auto pou thewrytika shediasame. Styn Ameriky boreis na kaneis hrysimy hewrytiky ergasia giati kapoios styn paragwgy tha tyn efarmwsei, alla styn Ellada mas leipei autos o kapoios kai tha prepei emeis na ton antikatastysoume. Y epilogy toy tomea twn spoudwn mas, alla kai tou periehwmenou tous, tha prepei na vasizetai prwta se mia apofasy gia ton pioo tomea tys paragwgys tha helame na boythysoume na anaptyhthei. Meta meletame ti gnwseis tha mas hreiastoun gia auto. Dialegoume to Panepoistymeio pou prosferei ena programa spoudwn pou tha mas voythysei na kataktysoume autes tis gnwseis. Kai telos dialegoume ton kathygyty me ton opoio tha sunergastoume, analoga kai me tis ikanotytes tou alla kai me to thema tys diatrivys pou tha kanoume mazi tou. Episys se oly ty diarkeia twn spoudwn mas den tha prepei na perioristoume sta mathymata kai ty diatrivy mas alla tha prepei na platunoume to euros twn gnwsewn mas me sullogy praktikwn plyroforiwn pou tha mas kanoun "etoimous paiktes" gia tyn Ellada otan tha gurisoume. Praktiky exaskisy ta kalokairia y gia kanena hrono meta tis spoudes mas se mia etairia einai mallon aparaityty. Gia paradeigma egw san ylektrologos myhanikos dialexa tous computers gia metaptuhiakes spoudes giati to thewrysa to poio hrysimo gia tyn Ellada, an kai den ytan o klados pou mou arese perissotero. Kai tha thewrisw tis spoudes mou epituhymenes otan tha eimai etoimos na PARAGW kapoia computer proionta kai oxi otan tha ehw anaptuxei kapoio algorithmo gia ty diatrivy mou. Antitheta oi gnwseis se ylektromagnytiko pedio odygoun elahista (oxi toulahiston amesa, alla auto to amesa mas hreiazetai an theloume na plysiasoume tis pio anaptugmenes hwres) styn paragwgy. To idio ishuei kai gia spoudes se pio efarmosmeno klado alla opou kapoios tha mathene mono "pou sunklinei y deutery paragwgos ..." y gia "analysy eustatheias". Telos tha yhela na parakalesw osous mellontikous doktores na myn ehoun to mialo tous mono se panepistymiaky thesy alla na pane styn paragwgy (the real thing pou lene) kai an ginetai na anoixoun oi idioi mia paragwgiky kai ethnika hrysimy epihyrisy pou tha antikatastysei tis eisagwges proiontwn alla kai xenwn hrusoplyromenwn eidikwn pou kalame opote ehoume provlyma. Auta ta polla gia osous me tis spoudes tous theloun na voythysoun tyn Ellada otan gurisoun, kai sugnwmy gia to "kyrugma" kai to megethos tou. Diafwnei arage kaneis; Swkratys Dymytriadys (apo Thessaloniki kai twra apo University of California at Los Angeles, Computer Science Department : dim@LOCUS-UCLA.EDU)