Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site noao.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!princeton!astrovax!noao!sharp From: sharp@noao.UUCP (Nigel Sharp) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Parapsychology Message-ID: <445@carina.noao.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Oct-85 21:46:36 EST Article-I.D.: carina.445 Posted: Mon Oct 28 21:46:36 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Oct-85 23:48:49 EST References: <> <829@nmtvax.UUCP> <566@oakhill.UUCP> Organization: Natl. Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ USA Lines: 34 >> ... much quotation omitted .... see original > This statement is pure, unadaulterated horse hockey. I know of no scientist > who is informed as to the status of paranormal research and is not > participating in such research who considers the top parapsychologist as being > any other than "scientist" and fully capable people. > ..... > >The best way for ensuring the data is not mishandled is by allowing outside > >observers who are informed about the research to analyze the data > >through any series of tests possible. > > And this isn't done? I would love for you to mention some of the names of > the many scientist you think have looked at the field in depth and who think > it's all a joke. (No I don't think the amazing Randi qualifies as a > scientist.) There are many, but before you make such statements, noone said it was a joke, and very few of the investigators say so either. For a lot of careful work, try C.E.M.Hansel's book "ESP and Parapsychology: A Critical Re-Evaluation". Hansel is an internationally respected psychologist and a Professor at the University of Manchester in England. > > Sincerely waiting but not holding my breath -- Dave Trissel What are you waiting for ? I would love to see some responsible proof of ESP etc., but I'm not holding my breath either (although I used to be able to manage 3 minutes whilst actively swimming, I'm not so fit now). -- Nigel Sharp National Optical Astronomy Observatories Tucson, Arizona (602) 325-9273 UUCP: {akgua,allegra,arizona,decvax,hao,ihnp4,lbl-csam,seismo}!noao!sharp ARPA: noao!sharp@lbl-csam.arpa