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From: pz@emacs.UUCP (Paul Czarnecki)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: The Best This-ism, Bush-Mania, Frip
Message-ID: <110@emacs.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 10:31:15 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 25 10:31:15 1985
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Keywords: art music squid
Summary: truth and beauty

In article <22300026@ada-uts.UUCP> wayne@ada-uts.UUCP writes:
>
>This'll be the first note I've ever sent, so be gentle...

This is probably one of best written article in net.music in a long
time.  You seem to have a fine command of the language and you can get
your points across clearly and consisely.  I can't claim to be a
net.authority or an oldtimer, but if you are new at this,
congratulations.  Please, lets hear more from you in the future.

(It also helps that I mostly agree with you! :-)

>But I'm not totally knocking Phil Collins...he is probably the most
>prolific pop music generator around today ("In The Air Tonight" is in
>my opinion one of his best songs...why can't he do more like them?  The
>obvious answer:  pop music listeners don't want them).  But I ask myself
>when I listen to one of his songs: what is missing?

Give Phil another chance.  But wait!  don't listen to anything that he
has done recently.  Phil has sold out.  Try "Hello I Must Be Going" and
"Face Values".  I haven't listened to these recently but I remeber them
as being pretty good.

>The answers, which are my criteria for categorizing music, is the feeling
>and the originality of the music.  The feeling is very important.  

So true!  And people like Madonna, Cyndi Lauper etc sing what I call
corporate rock.  It is not music.

People like Fripp, Hendrix (I like them too!), Bowie, Springsteen
(maybe?...), Bush, Birdsongs of the Mezazoic (local Boston), DEVO (1st
album only), Peter Gabriel (III, and Security), Fibonacci's, Zappa, Bill
Nelson, know how to feel their music.

Interestingly enough, I also like music that is totally devoi of
emotion.  Listen to John Foxx's solo album called Metamatic, or any of
the Gary Numan albums.  Also give a listen to the Kraftwerk albums.

The difference between these cold, emotionless musicians and the
corporat rock "musicians" is that Lauper et et. are faking it!  There is
no feeling (exceept perhaps greed) intheir music.

>                                   Wayne Wylupski


				Love turns to lust,
				Ice into fire,
				Open your heart,
				To my flaming desire.
					pZ




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