Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site cdp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!Glacier!cdp!scott From: scott@cdp.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: A flash from the (recent) past. Message-ID: <4900011@cdp> Date: Sat, 2-Nov-85 22:39:00 EST Article-I.D.: cdp.4900011 Posted: Sat Nov 2 22:39:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Nov-85 20:26:56 EST References: <172@aplvax.UUCP> Lines: 25 Nf-ID: #R:aplvax.UUCP:-17200:cdp:4900011:000:1251 Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!scott Nov 2 19:39:00 1985 > Are male homosexuals similarly offended and demeaned by the pictures > in the homosexual pornographic magazines that show men as sex objects? > Why not? I know that many gay men like gay mail porno (I also know of gay men who don't like it). But I'm afraid you can't really extrapolate. Gay men are men, and have grown up in a culture where it's very common and accepted for men to objectify women as sexual objects; I think that tendency can take hold and be translated into objectification of men as sexual objects. Also, objectification in same-sex relations is not as much of a problem as in opposite sex relations. The objectification of women as sex objects by men leads to men viewing women as less-than-human, i.e. not as multi-dimensional as men. In same-sex relations there's an inherent equality, because you're relating to someone of the same "cultural class", who thus has the same cultural identity as yourself; there is less danger that you consider your real or imagined partners as fundamentally different or less worthwhile than youself. Scott Weikart Community Data Processing: 415-322-9069 {decwrl,sun,bellcore,megatest,adobe,hplabs,...}!glacier!cdp!scott {ihnp4,decvax,ucbvax,cbosgd,hao,purdue,duke,...}!hplabs!cdp!scott