Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site imag.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!vmucnam!lvbull!imag!felix From: felix@imag.UUCP (Francois Felix Ingrand) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Re: Terrorism Inc. Message-ID: <359@imag.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 14:59:37 EST Article-I.D.: imag.359 Posted: Tue Oct 29 14:59:37 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 1-Nov-85 01:34:18 EST References: <487@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> <34@unc.unc.UUCP> <417@stcvax.UUCP>Reply-To: felix@imag.UUCP (Francois Felix Ingrand) Organization: imag, Grenoble Lines: 56 > - The waters around Mururoa are *NOT* radioactive, rather less than >many other places in the world. > - The island soil itself has *NOT* been affected by the nuclear >explosions. The seismic activity of this region has remained *VERY* low Really, what do we (and you with your *NOT* and *VERY*) know about the consequences of these experimentations.... It is not because Mr Quilles (French Defense Minister) take a bath in the lagoon that there is no radioactvity... It is not because only glasses on the table (I have seen this at the TV) move that it is a small "seismic activity"... This point are french propaganda... I do not know if it is the same thing everywherere, but the french government, the french army, the CEA (Commissariat a l'Energie Atomique), EDF and etc make *MORE* propaganda and *LIE MORE* than Greenpeace. Generaly Greenpeace say: "We do not know the consequences, and we are afraid by what they could be (the past has show us)" But the others always say " No problems... All is OK... Trust us... " > I put in doubt Greenpeace being an organization for peace. Why then are >they going to war against countries? In my opinion, you can only bring to >the world the peace you have yourself, in your own life. One can be a man of >peace, in every situation of life, but I doubt that this means to have >attitudes like the Greepeace people, disrupting others... I think that you are true and your are wrong, first GreenPeace stay for "Green" "Peace" (not Peace in general), in fact it an ecological organization. Second I agree with you when you say that peace is a thing ok every day and everytime. > This being said, it is not at all my intention to present the French >government or military as those who are right. No, France *AND* Greenpeace >are *both* wrong, they are both warmongers, none of the parties are working >*FOR* peace. They are in war with each other, and in war many things are >done, not always kind things... War do not excuse anything... >In this way, it is an act of sabotage and >not of terrorism, as terrorism is the intentional murder or kidnapping of >*innocent* civilians, to be more precise than Frank Silbermann. And in my >opinion the Greepeace people are not *innocent*. If they are not *innocent*, so it is a *transgression* to fight against war. > Well, I already see the inhabitants of Netland preparing their >flamethrowers, so I'd better go and hide. No no, I am not going to give you >my private address (-: Les francais reagiront peut etre avant.... UUCP : ...mcvax!inria!imag!felix "Pourquoi tant de haine" (Edika dans Fluide Glacial)