Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC830713); site hwcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!greipa!pesnta!amd!amdcad!lll-crg!seismo!mcvax!ukc!cstvax!hwcs!greg From: greg@hwcs.UUCP (Greg Michaelson) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.math Subject: Re: Mind as Turing Machine Message-ID: <667@hwcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 06:34:09 EST Article-I.D.: hwcs.667 Posted: Tue Oct 29 06:34:09 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 3-Nov-85 05:30:10 EST References: <859@whuxlm.UUCP> <10810@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <1996@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Computer Sci., Heriot-Watt U., Scotland Lines: 17 Xref: watmath net.philosophy:2988 net.math:2457 > There are a number of reasons why I doubt that the mind is in fact like a > turing machine. > > Lastly, it's certainly clear that we cannot now model even moderately small > portions of the mind through computers. I think it is reasonable to ask > those who wish to assert the turing machine-ness of the mind need to show > some method by which the mind can be translated into an equivalent turing > machine, even if this translation is computationally infeasible (which is > indeed likely). Without such an algorithm, I think there is reasonable > cause not to accept the hypothesis. > > Charley Wingate We cannot now do X THEREFORE we cannot ever do X where X = build a heavier than air flying machine = transmute one substance into another = model brain behaviour with a computer etc etc etc