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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: net.philosophy
Subject: Re: Parapsychology.
Message-ID: <800@cybvax0.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 26-Oct-85 11:27:45 EST
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Posted: Sat Oct 26 11:27:45 1985
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References: <970@decwrl.UUCP> <796@cybvax0.UUCP> <565@oakhill.UUCP>
Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
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Summary: 

In article <565@oakhill.UUCP> davet@oakhill.UUCP (Dave Trissel) writes:
> In article <796@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes:
> >The fact is, there is NO demonstrable, reproducible psychic phenominon
> >after who knows how many years of research.           ....
> 
> Um... Yea.  Out of all those >3000 papers there was absolutely NO PSI
> documented.

Name one paper documenting a psi phenominon that any scientist who has
tried reasonably has reproduced.  Something I could demonstrate in a
classroom.

The fact is that if such a phenominon was available for study, it would
make significnt waves in the scientific community, and be widely reported
in the mainstream eclectic journals (like Science) rather than hidden in
obscure or ill-refereed journals the way most psychic research is.

> And the greatest part is that Mike didn't have to look at any
> of those 3000 papers to know that.
> 
> I guess that sums up the validy of ESP.  Mike's 'knowlege at a distance'
> clairvoyance would seem the best proof of the validity of ESP seen yet in
> this discussion.

The fact is that genuine, reproducible, new phenomina are clamorously
announced throughout the scientific community.  Take for example the
recent iridium-enriched layer of clay that was proposed by Alvarez as
evidence of a large meteor strike that could have caused a mass extinction.
Which recently led to the discovery of soot within that layer, another
evidence of a large strike.  The theories are widely debated, but the
phenomina are well established.  Where are the well-established
psychic phenomina comparable to scraping off a bit of clay at the boundary
zone anywhere worldwide and finding soot and a high measure of iridium?
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Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh