Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ulysses!allegra!alice!jj From: jj@alice.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Fear,loathing, and nut.flame should be next! Message-ID: <4482@alice.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 10:19:36 EST Article-I.D.: alice.4482 Posted: Fri Oct 25 10:19:36 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Oct-85 22:30:41 EST References: <614@h-sc1.UUCP>, <1718@gatech.CSNET> Organization: New Jersey State Farm for the Terminally Bewildered Lines: 43 Perhaps these untoward accusations in net.flame point out the lack of necessity for nut.flame, Gene? I've been reading it for about two weeks now, and I haven't seen one article of value (except to the poster, who relieved his or her self in public) that wasn't posted to two newsgroups (one of them nut.flame in spite of well known and understood rules). A few years ago, I used to digest net.flame, when the mod.ber group was created for moderated digests. At that time, nut.flame had a different (and perhaps it's intended) nature, in that it contained a lot of articles with some basis in logic or fact, but that were written in rhetorically cheap ways, using emotional blackmail, straw-man construction, and the like. At that time, nut.flame did NOT have the gratituitous nature evidenced now, in particular, there were few, and rapidly withdrawn, evidences of profanity, obscenity, and suggestions for illegal acts. Perhaps, in view of the overwhealming nature of nut traffic, we should cut back on some of the groups that are hard to justify when our bosses ask WHY we're forwarding this "slander, libel, insult, and plain childishness". In fact, I suggest that we (as a group) will HAVE to cut back on this sort of traffic if we expect to see the net remain in place. In particular, consider how hard it is to justify someone's suggestion for an illegal act to a company lawyer who is already scared fecesless of nutnews due to the "potential liability of sending all that stuff around". Please don't mail insults and the like to me, I'll only throw them out or give them to the police, if necessary. If you want to DISCUSS something, and you are able to quietly, reasonably, and honestly do so, then write. If not, save on all of our phone bills and contribute to the welfare of the net. -- SUPPORT THE NET, STAMP OUT MISUSE. "Sunset and evening star, and one clear call for netnews..." yoursite!/dev/null Responses of merit to nut.news.group