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From: rjv@ihdev.UUCP (ron vaughn)
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.news.group
Subject: Re: A new case for the proposed deletion of net.flame
Message-ID: <376@ihdev.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 30-Oct-85 21:37:28 EST
Article-I.D.: ihdev.376
Posted: Wed Oct 30 21:37:28 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 2-Nov-85 01:45:59 EST
References: <4494@alice.UUCP>
Reply-To: rjv@ihdev.UUCP (55224-R. J. Vaughn)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Lines: 38
Keywords: cutting off our noses.....
Xref: watmath net.flame:12573 net.news.group:4112
Summary: 

in reference to deleting net.flame:  

In article <4494@alice.UUCP> jj@alice.UUCP writes:
>IT'S TIME!  I CALL ON NET ADMINISTRATORS WHO WANT THE NET TO
>CONTINUE TO EXIST TO START THE DISCUSSION!


pull your head out.  if there ISN'T a flame, it will rear it's ugly head
in all the other groups.  at least in net.* if people get "out of line" you
can say "move this to flame, that's what it's there for,"  and most of the 
time they do.  at least now all of us flamer types and pseudo flamers, and
even the jerks (arndt etc.) play in the sandbox here.  without flame, the
rest of the USENET community will pay the price.

this is somewhat similair to the chicago bears  stopping beer sales at the 1/2
of last monday night's game to keep the crowd in control.  local sales
of pints of booze etc. skyrocketed, and since they knew they "had to get
their beer now" the fans set a record for beer consumption.  the "solution"
was worse than the original problem.

cut out flame and everyone WILL pay.  x% of garbage is input to the net
each day. y% of that garbage is in flame, x% - y% is distributed across
all the other groups.  without flame, and large chunk of y% will be added
to the rest of the net.  face facts, if a guy is a schmoe in net.singles,
i go into flame and flame him (or he flames me... whatever).  after flame is
gone we'll just sit and flame in singles.  and music....and politics...
and religion....and philosophy...and.......

	your choice, be an idiot, or wake up and smell the coffee.

		ron

ps: notice the sarcastic, mild flame tone in this letter?  that is because 
it is in flame.  if there was no flame, this letter would have to be in
a "regular group,"  except *there* it would be sarcastic and have a mild
flame tone.  and everyone "else" would be subjected to it.  my, what a
neat can of worms to open up for the rest of the net.  who's going to
take the blame..er...i mean, be the proud leader of this smart move????