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Subject: FLAME Re: Net.*SOURCES*.mac
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Date: Mon, 11-Nov-85 10:03:29 EST
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******************** FLAME ON:

From: peter@graffiti.UUCP (Peter da Silva), Message-ID: <415@graffiti.UUCP>:
>> As it is now, the binhex files aren't readable by
>> humans, but they *are* usable by all MacIntosh owners (unless you have
>> done something funky to your Mac, of course).
>
>But it's useless to non-macintosh owners who get upset at net.sources.mac
>because they see it as a resource drain. That was my original point.

Oh my God, you mean there's stuff in net.sources.***MAC*** that are only
useful to ***MAC*** users?!?!  Well, I say we torch the whole damn group
then.  Better torch net.math too, cause it has stuff that's only useful
to people interested in math.  And net.micro.amiga.  And net.*.  Looks
like we can only keep net.announce.newusers and net.general.  Great idea,
Peter.

>> If source is posted, then it is
>> usable to only a small percentage of MacIntosh owners, ie, those with that
>> particular language.
>
>True, and the corrolory of my previous point. I'm not arguing for or against
>binhexes. I'm arguing for sources. For public relations if nothing else. If
>the binhex is posted, it's only usable by a small percentage of programmers
>who use that particular language, those who are macintosh owners. :->

And the sources are only directly usable by an ever smaller percentage:
those who are Macintosh owners who have a particular compiler.  Another
great idea.  There is no net.binhex.mac (clearly there never should be -
it would only be of interest to people with Mac's).  If only source was
posted, 100% of the people who now get benefit from net.sources.mac would
lose benefit from a significant percentage of the postings.  But ***MAC***
users should be willing to donate net.sources.***MAC*** to people who
don't have ***MACs***, right?  Brilliant idea, Peter.

>I want the source so I can see about porting it to non-macintosh machines.
>If you can't write code that can be easily ported, feel free to hide behind
>BINHEX. Writing non-portable code in a high-level language is a sign of
>incompetance. I wouldn't want to run code written by an incompetant programmer
>under any circumstances. Unfortunately, I have to: I have a "home computer".

Well excuuuuse me, you arrogant little twerp.  I thought net.sources.
***MAC*** was for ***MAC*** users.  I didn't know you Commodore 64 users
were interested in calls to the Macintosh toolbox.  Want us inconsiderate
Mac owners to write every thing in Basic for you too, Peter?  Competent
programmers only write in Basic anyway, right Peter?

BTW Peter, *I'm* not interested in reading postings by incompetAnt
spellers.  So what do you think we ought to do about incompetAnt spellers
who show their incompetAnce in postings to net.micro.mac, especially when
they clearly have nothing worthwhile to contribute to people who are
interested in Macs?  I have an idea:  Torch 'em.  If you're not
interested in Mac stuff, stay the hell out of net.micro.***MAC*** and
net.sources.***MAC***, and then the ***MAC*** stuff won't bother you.

******************** FLAME STILL ON, you little twerp.

-- 

--JB         (Beth Christy, U. of Chicago, ..!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!beth)

"I once heard the remainder of a colony of ants, which had been partially
 obliterated by a cow's foot, seriously discussing the intentions of the
 gods towards their civilization."   -- Archy the Cockroach