Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site pedsgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!pedsgd!bobh From: bobh@pedsgd.UUCP (Bob Halloran) Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group,net.flame Subject: Re: Fear and Loathing on the Clouds Message-ID: <326@pedsgd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 08:20:12 EDT Article-I.D.: pedsgd.326 Posted: Fri Oct 25 08:20:12 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 05:37:54 EDT References: <614@h-sc1.UUCP> <1817@hao.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Perkin-Elmer, Tinton Falls, NJ Lines: 33 Xref: watmath net.news:4151 net.news.group:3987 net.flame:12498 In article <1817@hao.UUCP> woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) writes: >> Equally peculiar is Spafford's claim that net.internat was started as >> a wildcat newsgroup. As postings on net.internat itself have made clear, >> the group was mandated at an EUUG meeting. > > Since when does EUUG get to make worldwide decisions? If that's the case, >let them create eur.internat. Also, consensus reached at a meeting does >not fit in ANYWHERE in the criteria for newsgroup formation. At least READ >the goddam rules before you start this kind of argument. If consensus reached at a continental conference of system users, which continent happened to NOT be North America, is insufficient to justify creation of a technical newsgroup for issues of software development for non-North-American environments, then how the deletable-expletive can a consensus of a dozen-odd sysops justify the removal of such a group? Or their decision to re-arrange groups (fa.* to mod.*); I seem to recall a general reaction of 'Huh?!' when it was announced this summer, and when someone asked, the response was 'Oh, we decided on that at the BOF meeting at Usenix'. If the backbone cabal can make worldwide decisions to boink traffic, I see no reason why an official user's organization cannot make a decision to generate some. As to restricting it to Europe, there is also the issue of Australasian distribution, and for my part, I want to know what the non-NorthAm users are looking for. Bob Halloran Sr MTS, Perkin-Elmer DSG ============================================================================= UUCP: {decvax, ucbvax, most Action Central}!vax135\ {topaz, pesnta, princeton}!petsd!pedsgd!bobh USPS: 106 Apple St M/S 305, Tinton Falls NJ 07724 DDD: (201) 758-7000 Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Quote: "Delay is preferable to error." - Thomas Jefferson