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From: kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: Some better guitarists than Fripp and Frith...
Message-ID: <2484@sjuvax.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 13:17:31 EST
Article-I.D.: sjuvax.2484
Posted: Tue Oct 29 13:17:31 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 2-Nov-85 06:44:51 EST
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Reply-To: kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch)
Organization: St. Joseph's University, Phila. PA.
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Keywords: guitar
Summary: 

In article <2482@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) writes:
>In article <2477@sjuvax.UUCP> kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) writes:
>>In article <2468@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) writes:
>>>In article <2457@sjuvax.UUCP> kirsch@sjuvax.UUCP (P. Kirsch) writes:
>>>>In article <2440@sjuvax.UUCP> lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) writes:
>>>>>>
>
>>high on anyone's list (read "In the Lap of the Gods" if you don't believe me.
>
>       ...see now this is what I mean!!! You probably bought that book when
>       the ink was still wet,read it from cover to cover six times,and now
>       that you're a star on oh-so-sophisticated net.music you deride it.Every-
>       body loves the Big Blimp in the closet,but when they've got nothing
>       better to do they post pieces making fun of it's creator!!!...

Actually Larry, I never bought the book--a friend of mine owns it. Are
you going to deny some of the stories in the book?--Like the time Page
and Bonham tied a woman down spread eagle on a bed and stuck raw fish in
her you-know-what. I still like Led Zeppelin and I will even though I think
that as a person, Page is a consumate asshole. I also think Roger Waters is
a consumate asshole but I don't listen to his music for the type of
person he is either. I attacked Page because you decided that to judge
Pink Floyd on Roger Water's personal life. Oh Larry, by the way--David
Gilmour from Pink Floyd is a pretty damn good guitarist too. (Even you-
the consumate Wall hater-must have heard the searing solo to the end of
"Comfortably Numb" on the radio.)


>>I never asked you to acknowledge that the Wall is good--I'm just asking you to
>>wake up from your blind hero worship and realize that Jimmy Page is not what
>>he used to be. All musicians either get better or worse--they don't stay the
>>same--Page's problem is that he got a little lazy and stagnant and now he's
>>not what he used to be.
>
>          ...your problem is that you won't let the dude take a new turn in
>          his career!!! He's not gonna plug the Les Paul into 300,000 watts
>          and flatten a stadium full of people anymore,and you can't deal
>          with this!!! Say it like it is;you don't like what Page has done
>          since the demise of Bonham...

You're quite correct, I don't like it. I guess he did take a new turn in
his career but it was a turn downward. For an example of a turn upward,
try Jeff Beck. 


>>
>>>> Of course you can notice Page's guitar--it's because he plays that double       Gibson with the paper thin body--the distinctive part of his guitar is the 
>>>>tone and the effects he uses not, his ability. Lifeson's tone is also distinct
>>>>WAS an excellent guitarist but I would have trouble changing that statement
>>>>to the present tense.
>>>>
>>>
>>>         ...so join the crowd,but I do believe you're a tad mistaken
>>>         about the Cherry Gibson.That guitar is for all intents and
>>>         purposes an SG.The addition of the twelve-string neck doesn't
>>>         change it's tone that much.Now lots of rock guitarists use the
>>   
>>In my opinion it does change the tone--and I know several people who agree
>>with me...
>
>          ...that's the axe he made famous by performing "Stairway to Heaven"
>          on live.(In fact Gibson custom-made it for that reason.)I've heard
>          live versions of STH and it didn't sound the same.He can get two 
>          different sounds out of the same axe!!!...

Wow! *TWO* different sounds out of the same "axe" (God I hate that term--it's
not used to chop down trees so why call it an axe??)--it's amazing what a
flick of the pickup switch can do!


>>>>(I guess that knife in the back's getting deeper huh Larry? :-))
>>>>
>>>
>>>       ...by now Doug Alan must be getting jealous,you're about to replace
>>>       him as my net.music.favoriteperson :-)
>>>
>>
>>For all who are wondering, No, Larry and I don't have daily swordfights
>>between us here on campus. (Grenades are more effective :-))
>>  
>>-- 
>>
>
>         ...you see,I read net.bizarre,and frankly Paul,I FEEL SORRY FOR
>         YOU!! Your missin' an important piece!!! Folks,we're talkin' about
>         a guy who tried to cheese his hunger away by cooking "Combos" in
>         a 7-11 micro-wave,and then got pissed when they exploded!!I rest
>         my case...

Actually, I didn't get pissed when they exploded--I found it quite funny.
It was the girl working in there that got pissed.

>>
>>Warning: Objects in Terminal Room are Closer than they Appear...
>>
>>
>
>
>                             Larry Palena
>
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>


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Another wunnerful letter from the semi-intelligent rotting brain of:

                              Paul Kirsch
                              St. Joseph's University
                              Philadelphia, Pa

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