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From: jam@dcl-cs.UUCP (John A. Mariani)
Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers,net.flame
Subject: Feminist SF -- ARGHHHHHHHH! Not again!
Message-ID: <710@dcl-cs.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 10:06:21 EST
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Posted: Thu Oct 24 10:06:21 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 28-Oct-85 03:45:24 EST
Reply-To: jam@dcl-cs.UUCP (John A. Mariani)
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I think you people are all crazy! And this is just the tip of the iceberg!

>From: clelau@wateng.UUCP (Eric C.L. Lau)
>
>Almost had me fooled till I got to the :-)'s at the end.  I didn't think anyone
>could make that many mistakes in one posting.  However I don't think it's a
>silly question...
>
>		Eric Lau
>		...!{utcsri|ihnp4}!watmath!wateng!clelau
>
>From: jagardner@watmath.UUCP (Jim Gardner)
>>James Tiptree, Jr., SHOULD write strong female characters, if anyone can,
>>since he is the pseudonym of Alice Sheldon.  (We all fall into this trap;
>>I even used "his" name in a novelty item I did in OMNI four years ago--
>>"Science Fictional Table of Elements.")
>>
>>--arlan andrews, analog irregular
>
>Honestly, sometimes I despair, when even smiley faces are not sufficient!
>I especially despair on behalf of SF Lovers everywhere who KNOW that
>James Tiptree Jr. and Andre Norton are female
>				Jim Gardner, University of Waterloo
>
>
>From: mooremj@eglin-vax
>
>Let me be the Nth to point out that both Tiptree and Norton are female.
No I don't think we should let you be the Nth person to point out that
both Tiptree and Norton are female.
>
>From: KFL@MIT-MC.ARPA
>
>  She's not a man.
>								...Keith
At least you were suscinct in your comment!
>
>From: nancy@MIT-HTVAX.ARPA
>
>I'm sure I won't be the only one to say this, but for the umpteenth
>time (on this list, anyway)... you've made a few mistakes about the
>gender of the writers you cite.  One of the reasons that James Tiptree
>Jr. and Andre Norton both write about female characters so well is
>because they *are* female, not male.

Yes, you are right .. you weren't the only person to say this...
Why is it that you went ahead anyway? Don't posters to sf-lovers ever read
other people's articles?
{If there is some tecnhical reason for this multi-answer phenomena ..
which I have commented on before .. please point this out to me!}
P.S. I know some of the above articles included useful additional info
so don't take me too seriously .. on the other hand, with the debate
going on in net.flame about a few extra characters for graphic signatures,
a lot of replies to Commodore's original article included most of it.
So we were treated to its deathless prose again and again and ...
Go back and read nettiquette, guys!
-- 
"You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars...."

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