Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpa.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!ucdavis!ucbvax!decvax!bellcore!petrus!scherzo!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihlpa!snappy From: snappy@ihlpa.UUCP (m. schulpiet) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: It's fun watching God answer prayers --- Message-ID: <866@ihlpa.UUCP> Date: Thu, 7-Nov-85 12:39:24 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpa.866 Posted: Thu Nov 7 12:39:24 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Nov-85 04:00:00 EST References: <2402@cal-asd.fluke.UUCP> <395@pyuxn.UUCP> <862@ihlpa.UUCP> <2066@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 100 > >> A very close friend of mine's parents just went through a traumatic > >>divorce. He prayed that both of them would continue their lives hereafter in > >>a peaceful way, and find happiness in their separation. (He had been praying > >>for them not to separate and then not to divorce for some time previous to > >>this.) He also prayed that additional tragedy not befall their family. > >>What has followed has been a bitter custody fight for the one child still > >>living with his parents, severe problems with his sister's pregnancy, and his > >>younger brother was in a severe accident owing to drinking while driving, and > >>must (at the order of a judge) quit school in order to enter an alcohol > >>rehabilitation program. (He HAD been a model student for many years.) > >> This is how God answers prayers. [PAUL ZIMMERMAN] > > > God does not answer all prayers with a big loud YES..sometimes the > > answer is "no" and sometimes going through many trying times in > > this life, one becomes aware that our lives are all planned by > > the Almighty God. Perchance after all the tradgedies that have > > befallen your friend's family, the mother and father will realize > > how "petty" their differences were that caused the divorce...and > > unite again to "share" their grief and see the whole "mess" through > > together. I am not saying this is what will happen, but your > > friend should try and leave his worry at the foot of the cross... > > leave it in the Hands of God, in other words. [MARGE SCHULPIET] > > How very quaint. God answers prayers by not answering them, by giving > you a "lesson" to learn, by "helping" you see how petty your little > troubles are. At the expense of human lives. Beautiful. If this > is your god, then Paul is dead on right, and I feel sorry for anyone > going along with this hateful despicable philosophy. > > Thank Ubizmo I know better than to engage in this sort of wishful thinking, > wherein a tragedy is assumed to be a "message" from god, a lesson to be > learned, that owing to god's will, will cause everything to turn out just > fine in the end. Whatever childish reason there might be for choosing to > believe this in light of the realities of the world is beyond me. Doubtless > someone will respond "and that is your loss". No, my friend, whomever you > might be, that is *yours*. > -- > And now, a hidden satanic message: _ > 9L|^6| _ > W6Vn|na| 622 > Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr Rich... If you re-read my posting, you will see that I did not say that God does not answer prayers...He does answer prayers but sometimes the answer is "NO"...depending upon what is good for our spiritual well being, or that of our loved ones. And there is a lesson in life...living it and plugging through all turmoil that might befall us. If you haven't had any turmoil or trials in your life then you haven't been really living here on God's earth...you've been in a vacuum. Sickness and death are a part of our lives here on earth...I was told this by a very intelligent priest at the time my husband died and left me with four dependent children - plus two more that were "on their own". Quaint, you say?? I'll tell you how "quaint" my belief is: I lost my dear sister-in-law to cancer four years ago. I lost my dear son-in-law (age 32) very suddenly two years ago l2/l2/83 leaving my eldest daughter a widow with 3 small children. My son was diagnosed as a victim of inoperable cancer last September. My youngest daughter (not married) had a child in March after a long hard labor ending in a C-section. AND, Rich, to top it all off, my house suffered a fire that left us five adults and 2-month old infant homeless until we obtained off-premises living quarters. Loss to the house $26,000, contents, so far, close to $20,000. You say I should believe that God Almighty should be hated??? I say no, because we are all still living, I have a good job that I am happy at, my son's attitude with his illness is above reproach (sense of humor, loving and kind and considerate), my newest grandchild is beautiful and a joy to behold, the house and furnishings were covered by insurance as well as off-premises living expenses. Incidentally, the house was repaired and is beautiful and we are now back in it. I can no longer talk to my deceased sister who was found dead in bed last Christmas Day, but I can still "talk" to God and thank him for the blessings that I still have. ( Please do not interpret this last statement as meaning that I go around "talking to God"...it's an expression I use for prayer.) I do believe in Almighty God and Jesus and without them I could not have held up under the above outlined "realities" of life. God Bless you and keep you in his loving care. Marge God Bless you and keep you in his loving care. Marge God Bless you and keep you in his loving care. Marge . q