Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site talcott.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!tmb From: tmb@talcott.UUCP (Thomas M. Breuel) Newsgroups: net.physics,net.research,net.misc Subject: Re: Newman's Energy Machine (2) Message-ID: <536@talcott.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 22:34:27 EDT Article-I.D.: talcott.536 Posted: Thu Oct 24 22:34:27 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 04:24:05 EDT References: <175@tulane.UUCP> <471@iham1.UUCP> Organization: Harvard University Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.physics:3432 net.research:292 net.misc:8759 In article <471@iham1.UUCP>, gjphw@iham1.UUCP (wyant) writes: | The description that the energy source for the Newman machine is mass |conversion appears to me to be fraught with pitfalls. As someone in this |group has already pointed out, only a small amount of mass needs to be |converted to energy in order to realize the gains claimed for the machine (c^2 |is a big number). A direct weighing measurement to check this hypothesis |would not seem very practical. However, mass conversion is accompanied by a NO, NO, NO. A direct weighing measurement would give the same result for *any* energy delivering device, since the potential energy stored in something CONTRIBUTES TO ITS RESTMASS. Whatever the machine does, if it delivers energy, it MUST convert *mass* into energy (if you want to call it a conversion at all). Whether it converts *matter* (i.e. whole copper atoms) into (electrical) energy is an entirely different question that cannot be determined by weighing. |characteristic electromagnetic spectrum mostly in the gamma ray region. |Evidently, no one has bothered to measure the electromagnetic radiation that |might be emitted from Newman's machine to check for this sign of mass |conversion. In terms of radiation and heat, a practical Newman machine may |compare to a nuclear reactor (note how much shielding is required to operate a |reactor safely). I would not sleep peacefully with such a device in my |basement. You are evidently thinking of the annihilation of electrons, protons, and neutrons by antimatter. There is no *known* reason why conversion of matter into energy *must* be accompanied by gamma radiation. Thomas.