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From: tmb@talcott.UUCP (Thomas M. Breuel)
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Subject: Re: Newman's Energy Machine (2)
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Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 22:34:27 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct 24 22:34:27 1985
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In article <471@iham1.UUCP>, gjphw@iham1.UUCP (wyant) writes:
|   The description that the energy source for the Newman machine is mass
|conversion appears to me to be fraught with pitfalls.  As someone in this
|group has already pointed out, only a small amount of mass needs to be
|converted to energy in order to realize the gains claimed for the machine (c^2
|is a big number).  A direct weighing measurement to check this hypothesis
|would not seem very practical.  However, mass conversion is accompanied by a

NO, NO, NO. A direct weighing measurement would give the same result
for *any* energy delivering device, since the potential energy stored
in something CONTRIBUTES TO ITS RESTMASS.

Whatever the machine does, if it delivers energy, it MUST convert *mass*
into energy (if you want to call it a conversion at all).
Whether it converts *matter* (i.e. whole copper atoms) into
(electrical) energy is an entirely different question that cannot be
determined by weighing.

|characteristic electromagnetic spectrum mostly in the gamma ray region.
|Evidently, no one has bothered to measure the electromagnetic radiation that
|might be emitted from Newman's machine to check for this sign of mass
|conversion.  In terms of radiation and heat, a practical Newman machine may
|compare to a nuclear reactor (note how much shielding is required to operate a
|reactor safely).  I would not sleep peacefully with such a device in my
|basement.

You are evidently thinking of the annihilation of electrons, protons,
and neutrons by antimatter. There is no *known* reason why conversion of
matter into energy *must* be accompanied by gamma radiation.

						Thomas.