Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!broome From: broome@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU (Jonathan C. Broome) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Dirty Water Bottles, etc. Message-ID: <10963@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 12-Nov-85 22:01:05 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10963 Posted: Tue Nov 12 22:01:05 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Nov-85 01:11:23 EST References: <228@druhi.UUCP> Reply-To: broome@ucbvax.UUCP (Jonathan C. Broome) Followup-To: junk Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 35 Summary: use of alloy components ... In article <228@druhi.UUCP> bhilden@druhi.UUCP (HildenbrandBE) writes: > [on alloy vs. steel bottle cages] > I have heard and seen several incidents where >cyclists reached for their water bottle and got a little more >than they expected(i.e. the old bottle and cage combo). Also, >the alloy cages do mark up your water bottle, steel doesn't. >I'm talking about stuff like alloy crank arm bolts(come on now!!!), >alloy toe clips(you have got to be kidding), seats with alloy rails >(frontal lobotamy cases only), alloy headsets and, water bottle cages,etc. Unlike your steel TA cage, an alloy bottle cage will never rust. I dunno about you, but back when I tend to get everything wet when I'm on a hard ride, and I'd really rather not have the steel cage rust on me. I use one of the Blackburn Designs one-piece (welded) alloy cages, not one of those cheap alloy-and-plastic ones, and I doubt it'll ever break. It does mark up the bottle though. Oh well. As for alloy other components, I agree that alloy clips and crankarm bolts have got to be among the dumbest things made. I used to work at a pro shop that sold these things (along with the more traditional stuff), and never had anything but trouble with the alloy parts. I knew one rider who got into a major spill just because his Cinelli clips snapped during a race. Of course, he also managed to snap a Campy Record crankarm once, but that's another story (anyone for old Nervar steel crankarms? :-) And have you ever tried to get a broken alloy crankarm bolt out from a steel spindle? Not fun. Me, I like my (steel) Campy headset and Christophe (steel) toeclips. Nice and reliable. =========================================================== Jonathan C. Broome University of California, Berkeley UUCP ...!ucbvax!broome ARPA broome@ucbvax.berkeley.edu ===========================================================