Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 +SENDMAIL+2.11; site dcl-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!jam From: jam@dcl-cs.UUCP (John A. Mariani) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers,net.flame Subject: Feminist SF -- ARGHHHHHHHH! Not again! Message-ID: <710@dcl-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 10:06:21 EST Article-I.D.: dcl-cs.710 Posted: Thu Oct 24 10:06:21 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Oct-85 03:45:24 EST Reply-To: jam@dcl-cs.UUCP (John A. Mariani) Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University. Lines: 63 Xref: watmath net.sf-lovers:10838 net.flame:12517 I think you people are all crazy! And this is just the tip of the iceberg! >From: clelau@wateng.UUCP (Eric C.L. Lau) > >Almost had me fooled till I got to the :-)'s at the end. I didn't think anyone >could make that many mistakes in one posting. However I don't think it's a >silly question... > > Eric Lau > ...!{utcsri|ihnp4}!watmath!wateng!clelau > >From: jagardner@watmath.UUCP (Jim Gardner) >>James Tiptree, Jr., SHOULD write strong female characters, if anyone can, >>since he is the pseudonym of Alice Sheldon. (We all fall into this trap; >>I even used "his" name in a novelty item I did in OMNI four years ago-- >>"Science Fictional Table of Elements.") >> >>--arlan andrews, analog irregular > >Honestly, sometimes I despair, when even smiley faces are not sufficient! >I especially despair on behalf of SF Lovers everywhere who KNOW that >James Tiptree Jr. and Andre Norton are female > Jim Gardner, University of Waterloo > > >From: mooremj@eglin-vax > >Let me be the Nth to point out that both Tiptree and Norton are female. No I don't think we should let you be the Nth person to point out that both Tiptree and Norton are female. > >From: KFL@MIT-MC.ARPA > > She's not a man. > ...Keith At least you were suscinct in your comment! > >From: nancy@MIT-HTVAX.ARPA > >I'm sure I won't be the only one to say this, but for the umpteenth >time (on this list, anyway)... you've made a few mistakes about the >gender of the writers you cite. One of the reasons that James Tiptree >Jr. and Andre Norton both write about female characters so well is >because they *are* female, not male. Yes, you are right .. you weren't the only person to say this... Why is it that you went ahead anyway? Don't posters to sf-lovers ever read other people's articles? {If there is some tecnhical reason for this multi-answer phenomena .. which I have commented on before .. please point this out to me!} P.S. I know some of the above articles included useful additional info so don't take me too seriously .. on the other hand, with the debate going on in net.flame about a few extra characters for graphic signatures, a lot of replies to Commodore's original article included most of it. So we were treated to its deathless prose again and again and ... Go back and read nettiquette, guys! -- "You see me now a veteran of a thousand psychic wars...." UUCP: ...!seismo!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!jam DARPA: jam%lancs.comp@ucl-cs | Post: University of Lancaster, JANET: jam@uk.ac.lancs.comp | Department of Computing, Phone: +44 524 65201 ext 4467 | Bailrigg, Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK.