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From: cej@ll1.UUCP (One of the Jones Boys)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: Re: Delete net.flame?
Message-ID: <385@ll1.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 1-Nov-85 12:01:34 EST
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Posted: Fri Nov  1 12:01:34 1985
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The below is Bradford Wilson responding to the idea to give a well
desirved death to net.flame.

> > Today, a totally ungracious individual, who doesn't have
> > to justify the cost of the net,  suggests in net.flame that we
> > should all write Gene Spafford (the real verb he was suggesting
> > was "harass", but he was politic and said "write") because
> > Gene enforced a rule that is well known, and did it AFTER
> > consulting other people (who may or may not wish to be named)
> > in positions similar to his.
> 
>       Now, I  >did< write this flame. Good idea, huh? Hey Flamers,
> why not mail to this guy! Send him anything you have on file, especially
> the big, space-eating files. No one has the right to censor.  
> 
> > Aside from the obvious, i.e. Gene has to justify the money spent
> > on nutnews at his site, and he does not feel that he can justify
> 
>                 Awwww, sob. Spaf is such a great guy, he does all this
> neat stuff for free, he really like us, oh gosh I'm so ashamed :-). 
> Seriously, though, this does not give him the right to say what he likes,
> and stamp out what he doesn't in a freaking witchhunt.
>
>                              The Wombat .:.

Bradford,

	The major point people are trying to make is that you get
USENET vertualy free!  It is paid for largely by the backbone sites.
By your own point of view, just as you can do what you want, they
can do what they want.  At this point there is some co-ordination
between them.  This co-ordination is the fact that they all agree
together what groups they will have on thier machines.  The agreed
upon list is only KEPT by Spaf, not made-up by Spaf alone.

	So, by you own quite valid logic, they can choose to carry
certain groups or not.  Or, choose to stay a backbone site, or not. 
Or, choose to forward your mail, or not.  Or, choose to leave USENET
altogether.  They can do what they want with THIER resources.  THIER
resources, not YOURS.

(I first mailed this response, but I've been getting steamed by
seeing people telling others what to do with thier resources in the
name of individual freedom!  So, here is is for the world to see!)
-- 
	  'Just carrying coals to Newcastle.

...ihnp4!mgnetp!ll1!cej		Llewellyn Jones