Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!bch From: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Reform net.internat Message-ID: <642@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Oct-85 01:58:17 EST Article-I.D.: ecsvax.642 Posted: Mon Oct 28 01:58:17 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 29-Oct-85 01:38:44 EST References: <5717@fortune.UUCP> <629@ecsvax.UUCP> <10820@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> Reply-To: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Organization: N C Educational Computing Service Lines: 27 Summary: In article <10820@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU (Erik E. &) writes: >In article <629@ecsvax.UUCP> bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) writes: >> >> There seems to be the myth lying around that all newsgroups have gone >> through some form of democratic voting process to be created. This >> isn't the case. Historically, newsgroups have been *legitimately* been >> created by mandate of usenix or some subgroup of usenix withough having >> been subjected to a network vote. If anyone decided, it was a few people >> at a small meeting. > >This is absolutely, uncategorically false. Cite an example, if you can. At the risk of repeating myself, I cite the series of mod. groups created about a year ago in parallel with some 'uncontrolled' net. groups. I cite the series of mod. groups just recently created. I cite net.announce and net.announce.newusers. I cite mod.map. Need I go on? Ok. We got net.jokes.d. Anyone remember ugh.jokes? How about mod.ber? The point is the very structure of usenet was decided upon by caveat. It is only some recent revisionist history that declares it to be the product of democracy in action. -- Byron Howes System Manager -- NCECS ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch