Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cylixd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!bellcore!petrus!sabre!zeta!epsilon!gamma!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!cbosgd!clyde!bonnie!akgua!akgub!cylixd!charli From: charli@cylixd.UUCP (Charli Phillips) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Ghostbusting Brevard Childs Message-ID: <425@cylixd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Oct-85 11:09:53 EST Article-I.D.: cylixd.425 Posted: Mon Oct 28 11:09:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 31-Oct-85 23:47:01 EST References: <1222@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> <1981@umcp-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: charli@cylixd.UUCP (Charli Phillips) Organization: RCA Cylix Communications , Memphis, TN Lines: 28 >>I don't think Man is in need of any "supernatural" redemption. I don't >>think any supernatural redemption is either possible or necessary. I >>don't think the canon should be "valorized" in the way Childs sets out >>to do. I don't think the (Christian) tradition should be valorized. >>I don't accept the statement of the problem and therefore "the truth of >>the gospel of Jesus Christ" is no answer. Does anyone else have the same problem with Gary's postings that I do? I can't understand them. I don't think he and I are writing in the same language. For instance, "valorization" is an organized action by a government to increase the price or value of something. Obviously, from the context, this isn't what Gary means. So what does he mean? Can anyone enlighten me? I generally make wild guesses about what he says. For example, I'd guess that the above quote means: }Man is not sinful, and therefore doesn't need to be redeemed from sin. }The canon and Christian tradition contradict this premise, and are }therefore not true. Is this what you mean, Gary? If so, and if, as it appears, you consider yourself a Christian, then I think you and I disagree on the meaning of the term "Christian". In your vocabulary (which seems to be highly specialized and at odds with the one I use), what, exactly, does the word "Christian" mean? charli