Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-kirk!williams From: williams@kirk.DEC (John Williams 223-3402) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Wishful Thinking Part II Message-ID: <1054@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 25-Oct-85 11:12:07 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.1054 Posted: Fri Oct 25 11:12:07 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 26-Oct-85 07:36:04 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 36 Ok, you want an example. Hard Determinism is fabricated. Why don't you read some physics? You can't psychoanalyze a particle accelerator. Wishful thinking, indeed! I have tried, as well as a lot of other people, to present the underlying physics. We have tried quantum mechanics, metastability, subjectivity, and at least ten other reasons why free will should not be outlawed. The burden of understanding now rests with you. Given that free will has two alternatives: 1) It exists. 2) It does not exist. If we say that it exists when it really doesn't, we will never know the difference. If we say that it doesn't exist when it really does, we will be forcing it out of existence through our own free will. The result is a set of narrow minds. Rich, can *you* say narrow minded? I suppose so, you said just about everything else. Open up, you might learn something. John.