Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site masscomp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!masscomp!lip From: lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: The Wall Message-ID: <812@masscomp.UUCP> Date: Thu, 31-Oct-85 09:06:07 EST Article-I.D.: masscomp.812 Posted: Thu Oct 31 09:06:07 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Nov-85 04:22:23 EST References: <1949@pyuxd.UUCP> <808@masscomp.UUCP> <1985@pyuxd.UUCP> Reply-To: lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) Organization: Masscomp - Westford, MA Lines: 29 Keywords: self-indulgent whining, divorce Summary: >> I agree that "The Wall" reflects at times the self-indulgent and egotistical >> tendencies of the writer. However, that's not enough for it to be called >> "ridiculous". In fact, I think many artists (assuming Roger Waters is an >> artist) share these same qualities and tendencies. Eccentricities and >> obseessions often are characteristics of exceptional artists. For example, >> John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Picasso, Beethoven, Dostoyevsky, Milton, ... >> I think to single Roger Waters out by calling "The Wall" "ridiculous" is >> unfair. [LIPINSKI] > >The difference is that the others had something worth saying about their >experiences, and didn't succumb to melodramatic whining (even Lennon's >first solo album, a real catharsis, has more real power than self-pity). >[ROSEN] Well, I think you've slipped into a matter of personal opinion: the worth of expression about personal experiences. I know people who don't relate to Beethoven but that's the way it is. I guess I relate to Waters' expression and experiences more than you. Do you have any more concrete or objective comments? >His message wasn't >effective to me, nothing of substance other than the whining came across. >Though there IS some great music on the album. [ROSEN] Sure. I primarily listen to the music and consider the words/written message secondary. - John {ihnp4,decvax}!masscomp!lip