Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!vassos From: vassos@utcsri.UUCP (Vassos Hadzilacos) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: South African Blacks Message-ID: <1556@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Mon, 28-Oct-85 18:54:42 EST Article-I.D.: utcsri.1556 Posted: Mon Oct 28 18:54:42 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 28-Oct-85 19:55:36 EST Distribution: can Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 52 From postnews Mon Oct 28 18:12:50 1985 Subject: Re: South African Blacks Newsgroups: can.politics Distribution: can In <1534@utcsri.UUCP> I said: >> [...] Namibia [...] is illegaly occupied by SA [South African] troups. To which Riel Smit repied: > Namibia can by no stretch of the imagination be called a dictatorship. > Not with a multi-party system and representatives elected by a large > proportion of the population (both black and white). And as far as > "occupied by SA troops" is concerned, I guess that is true if you are > willing to say that West Germany is occupied by American troops. To which I now reply: A short history of Namibia: -------------------------- - In 1915 the German colonial rule ends. - In 1919 the League of Nations confers to South Africa the mandate of preparing Namibia for independence. - In 1966 the United Nations terminates SA's mandate on the basis the latter had failed to fullfill its obligations. - In 1969 the United Nations Security Council declares SA's occupation of Namibia illegal. - In 1971 the International Court of Justice, also declares SA's occupation of Namibia illegal. - In 1977 the United Nations General Assembly recognises SWAPO as the authentic representative of the Namibians. - In 1977 SA apoints an "Administrator General" in Namibia. - In 1979 SA having rejected UN-supervised elections, installs the Democratic Turnhalle Alliance in power, creates a National Assembly (1979) and a Council of Ministers (1980). - By 1982 SA has 100,000 troops in Namibia. - In 1983 SA formally resumes direct control over Namibia, dissolving the Council of Ministers and the National Assembly. I am not aware of any UN or Int'l Court decision declaring the presence of US troops in the Federal Republic of Germany "illegal". Nor have I heard of the US apointing anyone as Administrator General, banning the most popular political party, and dissolving the government and parliament of the Federal Republic of Germany. I think you will agree with me that your comparison was, er..., exaggerated. And I don't think I could be accused of narrow mindedness if I added that the situation revealed by the above facts does not meet my standards of a democratic state. --Vassos Hadzilacos.