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From: jj@alice.UUCP
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Subject: A new case for the proposed deletion of net.flame
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Date: Tue, 29-Oct-85 09:37:20 EST
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 There are two parts to this article.  

1)

Last Friday, I suggested that net.flame should be removed.
To date, I've received 23 letters about the subject, and the
concensus is 22 DELETE 1 KEEP.  The one letter that wanted me
to "keep" net.flame actually said 

"..sick, faggot head, what gives you the f<>g right to
tell any non-pervert ..."

<> encloses the obvious.

I think that 22:1 is a good start toward a concensus.
I also think the obscenity (no profanity, I guess the writer
didn't think to demean the name of G*d, if he believes
in one) shows how much consideration is due that writer.


2)

Today, a totally ungracious individual, who doesn't have
to justify the cost of the net,  suggests in net.flame that we
should all write Gene Spafford (the real verb he was suggesting
was "harass", but he was politic and said "write") because
Gene enforced a rule that is well known, and did it AFTER
consulting other people (who may or may not wish to be named)
in positions similar to his.


Aside from the obvious, i.e. Gene has to justify the money spent
on nutnews at his site, and he does not feel that he can justify
nut.bizzare, or any group that doesn't have a start discussed properly
on the net, mailing to Gene ignores the fact that he is only
one of a bunch of people who agree with one or both of
the decisions.  Picking on Gene because HE is the keeper of the
lists is just plain silly, as well as using the interstate
phone system for harassment.

In any case, suggesting federal crimes on the net (or something
that is likely to be able to be made out as a federal crime)
is a good case for removing both a user and a newsgroup, so

IT'S TIME!  I CALL ON NET ADMINISTRATORS WHO WANT THE NET TO
CONTINUE TO EXIST TO START THE DISCUSSION!

My mail filter is still up, I will see your profanity, obscenity,
and the like, but it will be marked as such when I turn on the
mailer, and your root and news administrators will likely get a copy, if
you're good at being insulting.
-- 
EVEN NUT.FLAME HAS IT'S LIMITS!
"Sunset and evening star, and one clear call for netnews..."

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