Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 UW 5/3/83; site uw-june Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!greipa!decwrl!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!uw-june!sweillam From: sweillam@uw-june (Hisham Sweillam) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Middle East, Oil and the costs of Militarism Message-ID: <41@uw-june> Date: Wed, 6-Nov-85 17:27:38 EST Article-I.D.: uw-june.41 Posted: Wed Nov 6 17:27:38 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Nov-85 16:34:39 EST References: <232@cornell.UUCP> <1124@hou2h.UUCP> <17@uw-june> <4160@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 37 Xref: linus net.politics:11236 net.religion.jewish:2221 Mr. steinber writes:> > From: sweillam@uw-june (Hisham Sweillam @ U of Washington Computer Science) > > > > [...] the arabs, which have been living > >for centruries in Palestine along with jews that have chosen not to abandon > >Palestine. > > Jews did not "choose" to leave Judea. They were forcibly expelled by > the Imperial Roman military, who then renamed the area "Palestine" to > wipe out any association between the country and Jews. Thus, As you can see I said "those who have chosen not to abondon" NOT "those who have chosen to leave". The difference is I (and most people I believe) can understand why people left but they admire those who didn't leave despite the oppression. Palestinians (a majority of them) have decided not to leave their lands even if it meant death for them. I'm not trying to imply that jews who fled the oppression don't deserve any consideration. I'm trying to say that the palestinians deserve a consideration too. > False. The arab refugees left because their leaders said "get out of the > way while we throw the Jews into the sea." Do you think any sane person would accept living in crummy camps and leave his own home, because his leader told him (even if his leader was a sane person). Besides, they didn't get out of the way. They have been involved in every war and massacre since 1948. > Of all the nerve! Arab countries brutally mistreated the "eastern jews", > and did everything they could to keep the Ethiopian Jews starving in > refugee camps. Do you have any concrete example of "BRUTAL" mistreatement. Anything close, or even comparable, to what happened in Europe? hisham...