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From: woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: net.internat
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Date: Thu, 24-Oct-85 16:59:42 EDT
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> I also think this issue MUCH too important to be hidden under the
> carpet by our insular colleagues across the pond.

  This is a really insulting and bigoted remark (deliberately so, in all prob-
ability).  I wasn't going to post any more on this, but after reading about 8 
articles with this tone, I figured I would like to clarify what is going on.
I will repeat again, for those who only read the first line of Spaf's posting
and then posted their opinions: the CONTENT of net.internat is NOT what
is objected to, it is the method of creation. It sets a very bad precedent,
REGARDLESS of how valuable the information in the group is (and I do NOT
dispute that). The problem is that someone created a netwide group with no
discussion among the net and no demonstrated need. If one wants to start
a new topic of discussion, fine; start it in an existing group. If the
topic proves to generate enough traffic to warrant it, THEN suggest
forming a new newsgroup. It is not necessary to start a new newsgroup
every time a new topic comes up for discussion.
  Now that net.internat has been removed, those who wish to discuss the topics
raised there should continue the discussion in another group. If the discussion
continues to flourish, THEN suggest a new newsgroup. The whole point of the
rules Spaf posted is that the criteria for creating a new newsgroup is based
solely on amount of traffic for that topic, NOT on how potentially 
interesting or valuable the topic might be. There is NOTHING to stop ANYONE
from starting a new discussion; the procedures only need to be followed for
new GROUPS.

--Greg
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