Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihdev.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihdev!rjv From: rjv@ihdev.UUCP (ron vaughn) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.news.group Subject: Re: A new case for the proposed deletion of net.flame Message-ID: <376@ihdev.UUCP> Date: Wed, 30-Oct-85 21:37:28 EST Article-I.D.: ihdev.376 Posted: Wed Oct 30 21:37:28 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Nov-85 01:45:59 EST References: <4494@alice.UUCP> Reply-To: rjv@ihdev.UUCP (55224-R. J. Vaughn) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 38 Keywords: cutting off our noses..... Xref: watmath net.flame:12573 net.news.group:4112 Summary: in reference to deleting net.flame: In article <4494@alice.UUCP> jj@alice.UUCP writes: >IT'S TIME! I CALL ON NET ADMINISTRATORS WHO WANT THE NET TO >CONTINUE TO EXIST TO START THE DISCUSSION! pull your head out. if there ISN'T a flame, it will rear it's ugly head in all the other groups. at least in net.* if people get "out of line" you can say "move this to flame, that's what it's there for," and most of the time they do. at least now all of us flamer types and pseudo flamers, and even the jerks (arndt etc.) play in the sandbox here. without flame, the rest of the USENET community will pay the price. this is somewhat similair to the chicago bears stopping beer sales at the 1/2 of last monday night's game to keep the crowd in control. local sales of pints of booze etc. skyrocketed, and since they knew they "had to get their beer now" the fans set a record for beer consumption. the "solution" was worse than the original problem. cut out flame and everyone WILL pay. x% of garbage is input to the net each day. y% of that garbage is in flame, x% - y% is distributed across all the other groups. without flame, and large chunk of y% will be added to the rest of the net. face facts, if a guy is a schmoe in net.singles, i go into flame and flame him (or he flames me... whatever). after flame is gone we'll just sit and flame in singles. and music....and politics... and religion....and philosophy...and....... your choice, be an idiot, or wake up and smell the coffee. ron ps: notice the sarcastic, mild flame tone in this letter? that is because it is in flame. if there was no flame, this letter would have to be in a "regular group," except *there* it would be sarcastic and have a mild flame tone. and everyone "else" would be subjected to it. my, what a neat can of worms to open up for the rest of the net. who's going to take the blame..er...i mean, be the proud leader of this smart move????