Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ecsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!ecsvax!bch From: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Reform net.internat (De Rules, Boss, De *Rules*) Message-ID: <657@ecsvax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 30-Oct-85 09:30:18 EST Article-I.D.: ecsvax.657 Posted: Wed Oct 30 09:30:18 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Nov-85 06:30:27 EST References: <5717@fortune.UUCP> <629@ecsvax.UUCP> <1828@hao.UUCP> Reply-To: bch@ecsvax.UUCP (Byron C. Howes) Distribution: net Organization: N C Educational Computing Service Lines: 34 Summary: In article <1828@hao.UUCP> woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods) writes: >...All we are saying is that any NEW groups >must be created according to the current rules. The net is now too big >to be a total anarchy. Really? Then how come all these new 'mod' groups (for which I had no corresponding 'fa.' groups just appeared on my machine?) Just when did these 'rules' come to be? Last month? Yesterday? It has *always* been possible and necessary to create groups by caveat. Selective memory is certainly a woderful thing! > What does parochialism have to do with it? That is, as has been stated >MANY times now, an irrelevant issue. The ONLY objection to the group is that >its creator did not follow accepted procedure for creating NETWIDE groups. The parochialism is in not granting to EUUG the same legitimacy we confer to USENIX. If piet@mcvax put out a netwide rmgroup on one of the mod groups just recently created despite 'the rules' the flames would be enough to bring the satellite out of orbit. > This is a debatable issue. I do not agree. The way I interpret the newsgroup >creation rules is that you must first have a DEMONSTRATED VOLUME of postings >before proposing new groups. Maybe that should be changed, I don't know. >But the way things are CURRENTLY set up, neither EUUG nor USENIX can mandate >the creation of new groups. Again, this simply isn't the case. Not only history, but current events is on my side. You can scream until you are blue in the face that these are the 'rules.' The facts don't bear that out. It don't make it so... -- Byron Howes System Manager -- NCECS ...!{decvax,akgua}!mcnc!ecsvax!bch