Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site datacube.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!cca!datacube!berger From: berger@datacube.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Objective C (TM) for the Mac Message-ID: <19400003@datacube.UUCP> Date: Thu, 19-Sep-85 22:41:00 EDT Article-I.D.: datacube.19400003 Posted: Thu Sep 19 22:41:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 22-Sep-85 23:59:02 EDT References: <386@aurora.UUCP> Lines: 38 Nf-ID: #R:aurora:-38600:datacube:19400003:000:1458 Nf-From: datacube!berger Sep 19 22:41:00 1985 The rumors I have heard from reliable sources are: They are waiting for an Official Apple C compiler before they release the MacIntosh Objective C tools. The Apple C compiler is over 7 months late. Now we all know about Official Apple Software that is late sometimes never happens (ie MacBasic). Objective C is working with Aztec C. A student at Drexel U ported it in a few weeks. My feeling is that PPI in general is BLOWING IT BIG. The Objective C compiler is indeed revolutionary. It is the bridge between today and tommorow (structured programming and object oriented programming). Their pricing structure makes it difficult to impossible for normal humans or frugal corporations to work with it. They just need to get it out to a critical mass of people and make it inexpensive enough to be affordable in a prototype environment. It will take off and transform the way people are writting programs. They could be very rich. But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. They wait for Apple to screw them with another dropped compiler. They charge $5000 / user on unix systems. (NOTE: It will be < $500 on the Mac) They should be giving it away to universities! It should be on the Mac TODAY! Objective C and the Mac were meant for each other. Bob Berger Datacube Inc. 4 Dearborn Rd. Peabody, Ma 01960 617-535-6644 ihnp4!datacube!berger decvax!cca!mirror!datacube!berger {mit-eddie,cyb0vax}!mirror!datacube!berger