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From: pez@pyuxn.UUCP (Paul Zimmerman)
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Subject: Re: Beth Christy talks about the Damager-God
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Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 08:41:22 EDT
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Beth,

	Apology accepted. I got a bit worried that this was turning into
the same sort of argument you were having with Rich Rosen a while ago, hence
my reservations about your abusiveness. You did engage in the same brand
of condescending ``concern'' that many Christians expressed, feeling that
because I had reached a different conclusion than they, that I must be
``disturbed,'' or ``sick.'' My own fear about you is that what you call
your overzealousness to point out ``holes'' in my model stem from your
own rationalizing about the nature of God and/or the possibility of the
existence of an evil Damager-God.

	You misstate the premises of my model. In fact, the premises you
state DON'T ``rest on no assumptions,'' as you say, but alas they are not
mine. I never spoke of a special status for ``creative forces.'' I did
speak about building as being special hard work done by man in accordance
with physical law. (If it were not in accordance with physical law, it
wouldn't ``remain standing.'') Yet quite often a damaging force (physicists
call it entropy in certain circumstances) appears that destroys the work
accomplished by man. At whim, as if that force had a will of its own, in
direct defiance of the natural flow of things. Certainly none of these
are assumptions at all. The observable deliberate nature of that damaging
force is the evidence I cite as proof of the existence of the Damager-God.
I hope this clarifies things.

Be well,
-- 
Paul Zimmerman - AT&T Bell Laboratories
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