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From: putnam@steinmetz.UUCP (jefu)
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Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography
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Date: Sat, 28-Sep-85 19:21:07 EDT
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In article <1186@ihuxn.UUCP> gadfly@ihuxn.UUCP (Gadfly) writes:

>I agree with your logic, but not your premise.  Morality is not
>necessarily subjective.

What can morality be but subjective?  

>Morals are universal, and morals are for keeps.

Huh?  Engraved on what stone tablet?  

Now, on a more sober note.  Im really bothered by this whole pornography 
question.  There are a few (ok, maybe a lot of) people out there who 
are convinced that they know the truth about pornography.  They claim that 
they _know_ something about pornography, and therefore they have the
right to make decisions.  Actually, they _believe_ something.  I, 
unfortunately, dont happen to have the direct-dial-9600-baud-error-correcting
line to Truth (or God, or whatever).  This means that i may hold contrary 
beliefs, or that i may be willing to admit that i dont know something 
(ok ok, thats rare enough, but it does happen, sometimes, maybe).  
This puts me at a disadvantage.  When the local DAR (:-) decides to 
ban nude dancing in Half Moon, they all _know_ how horrible it is.  
Even if i decide to oppose their ideas, i can only admit to _belief_,
and clearly that puts me at a disadvantage.

I always thought that a good part of the point of free speech is that
it implicitly says that nobody _knows_ the truth so nobody should 
make decisions for everyone else.

oh well, just another net.liberal...

"The worst are full of passionate intensity..."
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