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From: ksl@hou2e.UUCP (a hacker)
Newsgroups: net.games.rogue
Subject: ROGUE MAGAZINE (3)  FALL 1985 includes: descr. 5.5 & hack, spoilers,
Message-ID: <701@hou2e.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 16-Sep-85 11:10:27 EDT
Article-I.D.: hou2e.701
Posted: Mon Sep 16 11:10:27 1985
Date-Received: Tue, 17-Sep-85 05:44:49 EDT
Organization: at his home computer
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Keywords: much more

Here is the Rogue Magazine.  The section titles ROGUE MAGAZINE by Gandalf
is from two years ago, but was never posted.



















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EDITOR'S NOTE
[===========]

This is the third issue of the ROGUE MAGAZINE.  The RM needs your
support.  If you have any ideas, high scores, items, or  anything
dealing with rogue,  please do not hesitate to  send it to me  at
hou2e!ksl.

					Gandalf.

RECENT DISCUSSION ITEMS
[=====================]
Recent discussions included:

	- whether or not rogue was public-domain
		(No.  It is not, was not, and will not be.)

	- staffs
		Included at the end is a (SPOILER) listing
		of staffs and their names.


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PUBLIC-DOMAIN?
[============]
As several people on the net pointed out, Rogue is indeed NOT
public-domain, although the sources for 3.6/3.7/5.2/5.3 were
indeed distributed freely to BSD systems.

HACK
[==]

Hack is a new game which, in most respects, resembles rogue. This
game is public-domain, and just about everyone who runs it has the
source.

Here are the features of the game:

~54 monsters		maze(s) on low levels
stores			40 level maximum
(un)friendly dog	new "useful" items (represented by a '('.)
6 classes.

The game is fairly simple, although it has some interesting "new"
===
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features included in the game.  They include:

etchings/writings	secret vault room
conversations

The current version out is Hack 1.0.3, which many people claimed
to have trouble using the "ed" package.

NEW ROGUE 5.5
[===========]
Rogue 5.5 is the newest rogue that is available with a system --
UNIX System V Release 2.  

Here are the features of this game:

90+ regular monsters	mazes
trading posts		quartermasters
255+ levels		new "miscellaneous magic" (represented by a ';'.)
forests			smart monsters (who will run & throw arrows)
magical artifacts (they have special powers)
20+ unique gods, monsters with spell casting, scroll reading, using wands, etc.
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4 character classes with special powers.
	magician (or any person w/ 16+ intelligence):
		spell casting.
	cleric (or any person w/ 16+ wisdom):
		affect undead.
		prayers.
	thief (or any person w/2+ dexterity):
		attempt traps.
		attempt stealing.
	thief ONLY:
		detect all gold on level.
	fighter ONLY:
		may use all weapons and all armor.


I have found this one of the most enjoyable versions of rogue.  I believe
that those hack players who try this version will switch back to rogue.
This version of rogue includes many more features which I have not included
in the list

On the following page is a comparison of the games Rogue 5.5 & Hack:
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Advanced Rogue 5.5 vs. HACK
[=========================]

Advanced Rogue 5.5			Hack
------------------			----
100+ smart monsters			54 monsters
  including 20+ very intelligent	  including 2 very intelligent
trading posts				stores
quartermasters
miscellaneous magic			useful items
					gems
4 character classes			6 character classes
unlimited levels down			40 levels maximum
forests
					dog
magical artifacts			non-magical artifacts

WARNING:
** SPOILER follows ***
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ROGUE MAGAZINE	by Gandalf  (hou2e!ksl)

	Subject: stick identification  (** SPOILER **)

	Condition			Then it's
	=========			=========
	lose 1/2 current hp		drain life
	monster changes			polymorph
	monster disappears 		teleport away
	or				invisibility (NOT IN ALL VERS.)
	monster appears next to you	teleport to
	monster jumps 2 spaces		haste monster (UNLESS BAT)
	room is lighted			light (UNLESS ROOM ALREADY WAS LIGHT)
	message "You hit"		striking
	little "*" shoots out		lightning/fire/cold/magic missle
	monster doesn't move many
	  consecutive turns		paralyze monster
	monster doesn't move as quick	slow monster
	asks for a wand			charging.
	nothing happens			assume cancellation or nothing.

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I can't think of any other.  If you need a stick identified, I'll be
happy to tell you what it is.   NOTE: If you play hack, they are not
necessarily correct.


TOPIC:  Versions of ROGUE

Here is a fairly accurate listing of rogues on systems:

If you're on a 		you most likely have this
==============		=========================
System V R 1		Super Rogue 7.0/9.0
System V R 2		Advanced Rogue 5.5
System V R 2 +		no version currently
4.2 BSD			Advanced Rogue 5.2
4.3 BSD			Advanced Rogue 5.3

OTHER VERSIONS EXIST, AND SYSTEM DIFFER.  THIS IS JUST A MAJORITY.



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Other versions include:
	Rogue 5.2/5.3  : ORIGINAL rogues.  26 monsters, /=?!*^ items.
	Version 1.0,2.0: don't know
	Advanced 5.9   : 5.5 upgrade.  110+ monsters, /=?!*; items
			forests, mazes, trading posts.  4 classes.
			multi-class capability

This concludes the 3rd issue of the Rogue Magazine.  If you have
any question, comments, or articles, feel free to E-MAIL me at
hou2e!ksl