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Subject: Re: ancients predict usenet
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Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 01:00:27 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 30 01:00:27 1985
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Summary: I'm well aware what fetuses look like

In article <1739@brl-tgr.ARPA>, matt@brl-tgr.ARPA (Matthew Rosenblatt ) writes:
> >      (Of course, you need a special lens on your camera to show a
> > twelve week fetus - that must be why they didn't do it :-) )[DICK KING]
> 
> How big does Mr. King think a twelve week fetus is?
> 
> 					-- Matt Rosenblatt

A few hundred grams or so.

My point was that it was downright deceptive for SS to show 20-25 week
fetuses while the voiceover was saying "... the coroner reports that
the average age of the fetuses was twelve weeks ..."


You don't need a special lens to photograph a 12 wk fetus, but it
wouldn't make a very impressive show.  I would guess that no feature
that an embryologist could use to distinguish a human 12 wk fetus from
that of another primate at a comparable stage of development would be
visible in a TV picture taken with ordinary equipment.


Has anyone asked themselves what kind of woman would have her abortion
done under an ultrasound imager for the purpose of making an
antiabortion film?  Or did the do0ctor who made the film pull
something out of his files?  Did he routinely use ultrasound imaging
when he performed abortions?  Does he routinely televise his patients'
private medical records?  

It wouldn't astound me if it came out someday that the SS ultrasound
videotape was done on a monkey.  (I am not, however making any such
claim.)  Certainly antiabortion activists aren't having themselves
aborted to make such films :-) !  (Maybe it's a computer simulation -
the state of the art is almost certainly good enough.)

-dick