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From: michaelm@3comvax.UUCP (Michael McNeil)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: 360 Billion Jews Want Israel Today -- or, Standing Room Only
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Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT
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Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969
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[snore...]

> > Okay, this is a cheap shot, but I'll take it.
> > If there were as many Jews as you say, and if, as was
> > claimed in the original posting on this topic, this was
> > at the time of a Roman attack, how come we lost?
> 
> The Jews at that time were divided into all sorts of warring sects.
> There were Baryonim (Zealots), Sadducees, Minim (early Christians),
> etc.  With so much dissension, the Jews did the Romans' work for them.
> 				-- Matt Rosenblatt

I wasn't aware that it was a *Jewish* army which conquered Jerusalem --
with a few Roman auxiliaries on the side.  This would have to have been
the case with the population advantage you propose (some 3,600 Jews for
every single Roman!).  Quite a bit of dissension, indeed!  By the way,
if the Jews had so much trouble agreeing on whether to be enslaved or
not, how can you be so sure 1,900 years later which side was right?  

-- 

Michael McNeil
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	Who knows for certain?  Who shall here declare it?  
	Whence was it born, whence came creation?  
	The gods are later than this world's formation;
	Who then can know the origins of the world?  

	None knows whence creation arose;
	And whether he has or has not made it;
	He who surveys it from the lofty skies,
	Only he knows -- or perhaps he knows not.  
		*The Rig Veda*, X. 129