Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!orca!shark!hutch From: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison) Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: Re: What is invisibility/teleportation? (long) Message-ID: <1567@shark.UUCP> Date: Fri, 4-Oct-85 14:16:40 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.1567 Posted: Fri Oct 4 14:16:40 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Oct-85 08:48:54 EDT References: <57@drutx.UUCP> <34@ubc-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison) Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 23 Keywords: scrolls invisibility Summary: In article <34@ubc-cs.UUCP> andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) writes: >In article <57@drutx.UUCP> slb@drutx.UUCP (Sue Brezden) writes: >>The question is: Can you read a scroll while invisible? >>I would have said no--but figured it was worth a try. I argued >>that if you could not see your personal effects, it would make it >>difficult to wield a weapon, climb, etc. and you should be at >>minuses while invisible--which you are not. Our DM bought that, >>and ruled it ok. > Here we are back at defining what it is that actually happens >when you go invisible. I don't know it that is really necessary. The spell description indicates that any offensive act cancels the invisibility. I have seen campaigns where any spellcasting was considered the equivalent of an offensive act. Also, the spell description avoids the issue of whether or not the invisoid can see itself, but discussion in Sage Advice in Dragon tm Magazine has indicated that the invisible creature CAN see itself, but cannot cast spells. On the other hand, they've contradicted themselves any number of times by indicating that clerics, at least, can do so. Hutch