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From: kurtzman@uscvax.UUCP (Stephen Kurtzman)
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Subject: Re: Schools and Churches (really 'support' for areligious moral codes)
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Date: Fri, 27-Sep-85 20:01:04 EDT
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In article <1164@mhuxt.UUCP> js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) writes:
>> If government acts purely in its own interests an tramples over
>> all the rights (lives and property) the people supposedly have, who is going
>> to call in the police.  What do you point to in order to say to that 
>> government that people really do have these rights and that they ought to
>> be respected.  What do you appeal to when the government says, "Well that's
>> just your belief"?
>> -- 
>> Paul Dubuc 	cbscc!pmd
>
>      Well it *is* my belief (that government sponsored repression is wrong),
>and a damned strongly held one too.  And it's also the belief of almost 
>everyone else.  And that's what I'd tell that nasty government, Paul.

You are wrong when you think that "almost everyone" believes that government
sponsered repression is wrong. There are a lot of people in the Reagan
administration that think that South Africa's repression is fine and dandy.
There are 1 billion Chinese that think seem to like their repressive government.
We have people in the US that seek to censor news programs, classroom
materials, and even modes of thought if they are too far to the left, or right.
One mans repression is another mans duty (to God, country, family, religion, etc.)

But, just so you don't misunderstand, I do believe that the denial of a
person's inalienable rights is wrong - regardless of who is doing to repression.