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From: fair@ucbvax.ARPA (Erik E. Fair)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: proposed new structure for `fa' groups
Message-ID: <10523@ucbvax.ARPA>
Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 03:36:24 EDT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10523
Posted: Thu Oct  3 03:36:24 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 4-Oct-85 03:53:36 EDT
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``The time has come,'' the Walrus said,
``To speak of many things.
Of shoes and ships and sealing wax,
and cabbages and kings.
Of why the sea is boiling hot,
and whether pigs have wings.''

	- Lewis Carrol

The `fa' groups are a relic of an earlier age.  It has been suggested
many times that they be moved into mod.* groups, because the mod.*
mechanism correctly reflects the nature of these groups. I am now ready
to do so. Here is the new naming structure that I propose:

fa.laser-lovers	->	mod.computers.laser-printers
fa.info-mac	->	mod.computers.macintosh
fa.info-vax	->	mod.computers.vax
net.works	->	mod.computers.works	(now gatewayed by rutgers)
fa.human-nets	->	mod.human-nets
fa.poli-sci	->	mod.politics
fa.arms-d	->	mod.politics.arms-d
info-applebus	->	mod.protocols.appletalk	(now hiding inside fa.info-mac)
fa.info-kermit	->	mod.protocols.kermit
fa.tcp-ip	->	mod.protocols.tcp-ip
fa.telecom	->	mod.telecom
fa.info-vlsi	->	mod.vlsi
fa.arpa-bboard	->	net.announce.arpa-internet
fa.info-terms	->	net.info-terms		(bi-directional gateway)

Mailing lists which are probably of interest that are not gatewayed as yet:

info-ibmpc	->	mod.computers.ibm-pc
info-pyramid	->	mod.computers.pyramid
sun-spots	->	mod.computers.sun
info-apollo	->	mod.computers.apollo

List of Moderators:

mod.human-nets			human-nets@red.rutgers.edu
mod.telecom			telecom@red.rutgers.edu
mod.computers.macintosh		info-mac@sumex-aim.arpa
mod.computers.vax		info-vax@sri-kl.arpa
mod.computers.vlsi		info-vlsi@sandia-cad.arpa
mod.computers.laser-printers	laser-lovers@washington.arpa
mod.computers.works		works@red.rutgers.edu
mod.protocols.tcp-ip		tcp-ip@sri-nic.arpa
mod.protocols.kermit		info-kermit@cu20b.columbia.edu
mod.protocols.appletalk		info-applebus@c.cs.cmu.edu
mod.politics			poli-sci@red.rutgers.edu
mod.politics.arms-d		arms-d@mit-mc.arpa
mod.computers.ibm-pc		info-ibmpc@usc-eclb.arpa
mod.computers.pyramid		info-pyramid@mimsey.umd.edu
mod.computers.sun		sun-spots@rice.edu
mod.computers.apollo		info-apollo@yale.arpa
net.announce.arpa-internet	arpanet-bboards@mit-mc.arpa

Plan:

1) Create new mod.* groups, and move existing fa.* traffic into them.

2) Start gatewaying the other lists not currently gatewayed.

3) delete old `fa' groups.

The only issue I see as controversial are the actual names to be used.
Gene Spafford  has suggested that `systems' be
substituted for `computers' to broaden the range of topics that fall
under that rubric.  I think that `computers' sufficiently describes the
entire spectrum without being overly broad.

Comments?

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	Erik E. Fair	ucbvax!fair	fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU