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From: eugene@ames.UUCP (Eugene Miya)
Newsgroups: net.rec
Subject: Re: Mountain Climbing
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Date: Mon, 23-Sep-85 21:55:42 EDT
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> > > Anybody interested in starting net.rec.climb?
> > I'd be interested.  But are there enough climbers out there?
> 
> I would enjoy seeing a net.rec.climb newsgroup.  I think there are
> plenty of climbers out there, but they tend to keep to themselves.

1) I think there are too many news groups.  We have not yet flooded
net.rec [but I admit we might],
2) I am not interested in reading "What I did ..."  I do not attend
local Sierra Club meeting for the same reason.  I just returned from
climbing in CO, UT, and NV [sorry Alan, you weather postings did
not reach me in time].  Anyway, what I did in CO ......
Boring, boring, boring!
3) What shall we discuss?  Ethics? help? [I think the Cerro Ac* was
a good example of this posting, but net.travel might be better.]
We can still use net.rec.  We can certainly discuss why we think we
go climbing.  I wrote a 124 page paper on climbing in High School
[excluding figures] and I know of a book on the subject published
at OSU.

I suggest everybody get the ball rolling and have a discussion
before doing this, like the image processing discussion on net.graphics.
Other than that, I think, climbing is in many ways too personal
a 'sport' to easily discuss.  I am frankly surprised there is no
backpacking group on the net yet there are supposed to be 10 million
backpackers [I was offered a job with a new East Coast mag out of HS
with the name "Backpacker." I think they've reach a point of stagnation
because of a similar 'personal nature.']  The info for much of what we
might discuss better appears in climbing and hiking magazines and
journals or in local shops in the form of guidebooks (sic).

A proposal was made in another group to talk about weather [for
the reason of retirement].  In a sense, the same info can be obtained
by going to a library.  I get a bit of a sense of laziness on the
part of some netters [not this group, don't get me wrong] to
use other than electronic media for communication: like writing
physical letters to one's Congressmen.  In short, if you want net.rec.cl*
show the need exists.

--eugene miya
  [you know where] and
  Alpine Consultants
  Palo Alto, CA