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From: al@ames.UUCP (Al Globus)
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Subject: Re: Objective C (TM) for the Mac
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Date: Tue, 1-Oct-85 13:46:38 EDT
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> 
> The rumors I have heard from reliable sources are:
> 
> They are waiting for an Official Apple C compiler before they release
> the MacIntosh  Objective C  tools.

They quit waiting and are now hosting on Aztec C.  They have not decided
to release a product. Call (203) 426-1875 or write PPI, 27 Glen Road,
Sandy Hook, CT, 06482 and tell them to release this system as soon
as possible!

> 
> My feeling is that PPI in general is BLOWING IT BIG.  The Objective C
> compiler is indeed revolutionary.  It is the bridge between today and
> tommorow  (structured  programming and  object oriented programming).
> Their pricing structure makes it  difficult to  impossible for normal
> humans or frugal corporations to work with it.  

I couldn't agree more.  I've told them several times to lower the
price if they really want to make it big.

> They charge $5000 / user on unix systems.  (NOTE:  It will  be < $500
> on the Mac) 

Last prices I heard are $1000 on the Sun, $10000 on a VAX.  No
per user pricing.  My data is very recent (we're in procurement).
They will also give some customers a 60 DAY FREE DEMO of the system.
This is a great thing.  Take advantage of it.

> 
> They should be giving it away to universities!
> 

They do have a University discount.  UCSC got it for $1000 on their VAX,
mostly 'cause they only had $1000 to spend.  Talk to the salesman, they
are flexible.

> It should be on the Mac TODAY!   Objective C  and the  Mac were meant
> for each other.  
> 

Hear, Hear.