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From: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison)
Newsgroups: net.games.frp
Subject: Re: What is invisibility/teleportation? (long)
Message-ID: <1567@shark.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 4-Oct-85 14:16:40 EDT
Article-I.D.: shark.1567
Posted: Fri Oct  4 14:16:40 1985
Date-Received: Sun, 6-Oct-85 08:48:54 EDT
References: <57@drutx.UUCP> <34@ubc-cs.UUCP>
Reply-To: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison)
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR
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Keywords: scrolls invisibility
Summary: 

In article <34@ubc-cs.UUCP> andrews@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jamie Andrews) writes:
>In article <57@drutx.UUCP> slb@drutx.UUCP (Sue Brezden) writes:
>>The question is:  Can you read a scroll while invisible?
>>I would have said no--but figured it was worth a try.  I argued
>>that if you could not see your personal effects, it would make it
>>difficult to wield a weapon, climb, etc. and you should be at
>>minuses while invisible--which you are not.  Our DM bought that,
>>and ruled it ok.
>     Here we are back at defining what it is that actually happens
>when you go invisible.

I don't know it that is really necessary.  The spell description indicates
that any offensive act cancels the invisibility.  I have seen campaigns
where any spellcasting was considered the equivalent of an offensive act.

Also, the spell description avoids the issue of whether or not the invisoid
can see itself, but discussion in Sage Advice in Dragon tm Magazine has
indicated that the invisible creature CAN see itself, but cannot cast spells.

On the other hand, they've contradicted themselves any number of times by
indicating that clerics, at least, can do so.

Hutch