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From: mcgeer@ucbvax.ARPA (Rick McGeer)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: Re: (micromotives & macrobehavior)
Message-ID: <10414@ucbvax.ARPA>
Date: Tue, 17-Sep-85 21:59:12 EDT
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Posted: Tue Sep 17 21:59:12 1985
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Reply-To: mcgeer@ucbvax.UUCP (Rick McGeer)
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In article <755@cybvax0.UUCP> mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) writes:
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>Distribution may take care of itself if there is enough wealth, but only if
>the powerful and wealthy are willing to allow it or subsidize it.  There
>are too many examples of export of food from famine areas by force of arms
>or force of market.  The poor in a subsistance economy cannot outbid the
>rich for foodstuffs, even if the rich wish to feed it to pigs.

You know, Mike, I'm going to write a mail demon that watches for news articles
from you and posts a reply to each one, containing the article and a one-word
reply: "EVIDENCE?".  So I'll ask again: do you have any evidence of the poor
being outbid by the rich for food, so that the rich can feed it to the hogs?
The *only* case of starvation in the face of food surplus that I know of was
the starvation of the Kulaks by Stalin in the 30's.  In fact, the only cases
of famine in this century have been in Marxist or Socialist nations, as far as
I know.  Do you know of any cases of famine in capitalist nations?

				-- Rick.