Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcs.uucp Path: utzoo!utcs!shindman From: shindman@utcs.uucp (Paul Shindman) Newsgroups: can.general Subject: Re: O Canada vs. New York Message-ID: <887@utcs.uucp> Date: Thu, 26-Sep-85 09:50:56 EDT Article-I.D.: utcs.887 Posted: Thu Sep 26 09:50:56 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 26-Sep-85 10:40:30 EDT References: <347@zaphod.UUCP> <3900015@csd2.UUCP> <2537@watcgl.UUCP> <804@lsuc.UUCP> <884@utcs.uucp> <638@mprvaxa.UUCP> <729@utai.UUCP> Reply-To: shindman@utcs.UUCP (Paul Shindman) Organization: University of Toronto - General Purpose UNIX Lines: 29 Summary: In article <729@utai.UUCP> lesperan@utai.UUCP (Yves Lesperance) writes: >In <638@mprvaxa.UUCP>, Tim Bray (tbray@mprvaxa) writes: > >> If you want to be really nauseated, go look up the first verse in French. >> Enough to turn you into an instant separatist. > > >More seriously, I fail to find anything offensive in that first verse, "O >Canada, terre de nos aieux". I simply perceive that as a reference to our >attachment to the land, our family and ancestry, and history. I feel that these >values are still deeply ingrained in the French Canadian psyche. Overall, I >certainly agree that the anthem is dated; Quebec society has changed >dramatically since those rural and religious days. But I find that the >datedness of the song gives it a certain charm, and there's a lot in it that is >still valid. > The only part that I find should be changed is the "porter la croix", since in our, ahem, wonderfully multi-cultural and diverse community (blech, sounds like a campaign speech) there are many who do not carry a cross. Since the english version was recently changed, I wouldn't mind seeing this line altered slightly. Actually, I liked the late Roger Ducet's(sp?) version the best "...we stand on gaurd for rights and liberty...". -- ----------------- Paul Shindman, U of T Computing Services, Toronto (416) 978-6878 USENET: {ihnp4|decvax}!utcs!shindman BITNET: paulie at utoronto IP SHARP MAIL: uoft