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From: jchapman@watcgl.UUCP (john chapman)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Possible Ban on Pornography
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Date: Wed, 25-Sep-85 12:21:34 EDT
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Posted: Wed Sep 25 12:21:34 1985
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> > > ----------
> > > > It seems to me that both non-simulated violence and use of children for
> > > > sex break laws unrelated to censorship, and can be outlawed without
> > > > censorship, which would leave us only in disagreement about the status
> > > > of simulated violence and sadism.
> > > ----------
> > > Note that it should be illegal to MAKE such things but it should
> > > not be illegal to sell or possess them.
> >   To use the same analogy again: would you try and control angel dust
> >   by saying it was illegal to make it but perfectly legal to sell and
> >   possess it?
> > 
> > 	John Chapman
> 
> This is not the same analogy.  Making angel dust does not directly harm anyone.
> Violence and sexual abuse of children do.
> -- 
> Jeff Lichtman at rtech (Relational Technology, Inc.)
> "Saints should always be judged guilty until they are proved innocent..."

Read the original article again. The "same analogy" refers to making the
same anaolgy I did before.  The point of the analogy (in case you disagree)
is this: it is silly to try and control something by making it's manufacture
(particularily things which are easily made in a clandestine manner) a
crime but making it's possession and sale legal.  Just image trying to
control smack by saying "well we'll punish you if we happen to catch you
making it but if all you are doing is walking around selling to people
well that's ok!"

> 
> {amdahl, sun}!rtech!jeff
> {ucbvax, decvax}!mtxinu!rtech!jeff
-- 

	John Chapman
	...!watmath!watcgl!jchapman

	Disclaimer : These are not the opinions of anyone but me
		     and they may not even be mine.