Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: sex Message-ID: <1712@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 15-Sep-85 22:51:19 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1712 Posted: Sun Sep 15 22:51:19 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 17-Sep-85 04:25:08 EDT References: <1160@ihlpg.UUCP> <3780089@csd2.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 17 > I believe my position is reasonable. Given that the Jewish community > is not isolated from the non-Jewish population in the USA, if a person > is not acting in a recognizably Jewish fashion, he should be > considered non-Jewish. [MARTILLO] "Recognizably Jewish" by your standards? Why not by theirs? Aren't they Jews? No, of course not, you excluded them a priori so as to render their opinions of what Jewishness might be invalid. This sounds an awful lot like people trying to claim that certain acts are "against nature". Are human beings a part of nature? Do some of us do those things? Thus, how can they be considered against nature? Same thing here. Are Jews behaving in certain ways and doing certain things? If so, how can you arbitrarily define such things as "not recognizably Jewish"? -- "There! I've run rings 'round you logically!" "Oh, intercourse the penguin!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr