Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site oberon.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!oberon!walker From: walker@oberon.UUCP (Mike Walker) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: (micromotives & macrobehavior & microcephali) Message-ID: <124@oberon.UUCP> Date: Tue, 24-Sep-85 11:50:30 EDT Article-I.D.: oberon.124 Posted: Tue Sep 24 11:50:30 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 28-Sep-85 05:57:53 EDT References: <535@brl-tgr.ARPA> <108@l5.uucp> <114@oberon.UUCP> <143@l5.uucp> Organization: U. of So. Calif., Los Angeles Lines: 30 > Laura Creighton says > I don't know why you separate moral rights from moral philosophy. I agree > that they are a basis of political philosophy, but I don't see how they > can be said to be derived from moral philosophy. In a good many moral > systems, rights are *given* and thus moral philosophy can be said to > derive from them (though not necessarily entirely from them). Alright, moral rights (along with moral justice) are definitely part of moral philosophy. I don't see how rights can just said to be a given without some more explicit basis. > I don't think that the term ``political philosophy'' implies a state. If > you want to do away with teh state entirely you can be an anarchist political > philosopher -- and can probably get that point across early on. If you > start calling it ``social philosophy'' you may find yourself involved in > questions of sociology, which is fine if that is what you want, but not > if what you want to discuss is a stateless society. Hmmm, well by my Pocket Oxford, the word political means having to do with a state. I agree that dictionary quoting is a bad habit but your "average man in the street" would assume politics was something to do with government. I suppose one could use the term to include the absence of the state. (But I'd like to break with the thinking of society solely in terms of having a state.) -- Michael D. Walker (Mike) Arpa: walker@oberon.ARPA Uucp: {the (mostly unknown) world}!ihnp4!sdcrdcf!oberon!walker {several select chunks}!sdcrdcf!oberon!walker