Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!seismo!cmcl2!csd2!martillo From: martillo@csd2.UUCP (Joachim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Is Martillo a Typical Sefardim? Message-ID: <3780090@csd2.UUCP> Date: Thu, 12-Sep-85 16:24:00 EDT Article-I.D.: csd2.3780090 Posted: Thu Sep 12 16:24:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 15-Sep-85 11:50:02 EDT References: <11290@rochester.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 20 You have to be careful when you talk about the assimilation of the Sefardi community of the USA. This community was never on the whole terribly learned nor were they of particularly high status within the Sefardi world in general. But the community basically lasted well through the 19th century fairly strong in their Jewishness. When their Yeshiva was sold to the JTS, apparently their hakams moved en masse to what became Yeshiva University (and were treated quite shabbily I might add). I know Philadelphian Sefardi families who trace themselves to this community. I give their community (hardly a model Sefardi community) a survival of about 8 generations versus 4 for the German Jews and 2 for the Eastern Europeans. Their counterpart in England the community around the Bevis-Marks synagogue still exists, and I should point out the Disraelis were thrown out for behavior which for even rather orthodox Ashkenazim would be considered relatively minor though perhaps not the best of behaviors.