Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uwvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!uwvax!planting From: planting@uwvax.UUCP (W. Harry Plantinga) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian Subject: Re: God and suffering Message-ID: <335@uwvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 12:03:24 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.335 Posted: Thu Oct 3 12:03:24 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 6-Oct-85 05:30:51 EDT References: <389@decwrl.UUCP> <2203@sdcc6.UUCP> <351@pyuxn.UUCP> <328@uwvax.UUCP> <364@pyuxn.UUCP> Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 13 Xref: watmath net.religion:7887 net.religion.christian:1404 Paul Zimmerman writes: > Harry, > > You work from certain assumptions about God's nature and the nature > of the universe. You say it is only possible to eliminate evil if free will > is also eliminated, and that God has deemed it ``better'' to keep free will. > First of all, free will is far from a proven fact. . . . > So this illusion of free will is an example of God's evil, not an argument > against believing in it. . . . In order to rebut your supposed proof that God is evil, it is only necessary that free will be possible, not actual. Then your "contradiction" fails.