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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Why is it?
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Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 02:48:07 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct  3 02:48:07 1985
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>>>where are the female counterparts
>>>of the Pauls, Garys, and Mikes?? [David Hayes]
>>
>>They're at home, barefoot and (or course) pregnant. I don't think they'd
>>be allowed to use a computer if they knew how.  [Charles Forsythe]
>
>Charles, where's the smiley face?  
>
>If you were serious (and I hope you weren't), that remark is bigoted and
>offensive.  You owe a lot of women an apology.  [Charli Phillips]

Sorry Charli (I've always wanted to use that line on someone else!), no
smiley face.

Do you think I am saying that there are no intelligent, indepedant
pro-life women in the world? I hope you don't think that because I am
not that naive or bigoted.

Maybe you haven't read anything by the really hard-core pro-life guys on
the net. As for me, I am surprised I haven't read the term "little
woman" and "housewife" from them.

Perhaps you should read Matt Rosenblatt's famous "women have rights
because male politicians let them have rights" speech that generated
megabytes of flamage about a month ago. Matt's more recent submission is
from a feminist who talks about how birth control (and therefore
abortion) are mens' way of keeping women sexually submissive. Of course,
he misses a more realistic point that our society also makes women
slaves to childcare. This summer I helped a friend raise money for a
feminist organization called "9 to 5" that fights for the rights of
women office workers. One of their main battles is to get companies to
provide childcare for working mothers. Perhaps Ken Arndt will reappear
to explain how DEC's money is better spent on Usenet connections than
childcare services.

At any rate, the female counterparts to these attitudes must ALSO believe
that a woman ought to be at home with the kids -- so that is where you
will find them.
-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX

"Ordinary F___ing people -- I hate 'em. Ordinary people spend their
	lives avoiding tense situations; repo man spends his life
	getting into tense situations."