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From: jims@hcrvax.UUCP (Jim Sullivan)
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Subject: Re: D & D : 60 Minutes 9/15  (the 'F' stands for *fantasy*)
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Date: Thu, 3-Oct-85 09:39:38 EDT
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>> i ask:
>> 
>> p.s.	anyone out there that actually played in the tunnels beneath
>> 	UofM ?  care to tell us about those games ? - jrs
>
>      Presuming that when you say 'actually played in the tunnels', you
>don't mean that they took their books, dice, pencils, lights, pillows,
>munchies, mapping board, etc. into the tunnels to play an frp game, I'll
>assume you mean that they dressed up, wandered around darkened tunnels,
>etc.   But if they did that, then they weren't playing a fantasy role-
>playing game, were they?  The 'F' stands for *fantasy* - the game is all
>in the players' heads.  In a lot of the cases of teen suicide which have 
>been published, it sounds as though the people involved were playing a
>*real* role playing game, rather than an frp game.
>      Some people (especially 60 minutes reporters) seem to have an
>awfully difficult time discerning the line between fantasy and reality.
>-- 
>Jeff Sonntag
>ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j

I a bit confused.  Dressing up, pretending to be a magic user; wandering
through `modern' tunnels, pretending they are dungeons, etc. is not
fantasy ?  It's all fantasy, just with props to strengthen the illusion.
Even these Rambo characters that seems to be infesting the cities these
days, dressing up, and carrying plastic rifles are fantasizing.

I agree that there must be a line between `real' and `fantasy'.  Part of
the problem with the teenage suicides and FRP's is that the real world
does not offer enough for the kids, so they grasp the fantasy world, to
make it real....and then we hear about it on 60 minutes and in the
National Enquirer (I want to know).

Jim Sullivan