Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.7.0.8 $; site ccvaxa Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!ccvaxa!marick From: marick@ccvaxa.UUCP Newsgroups: net.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Questions on Common Lisp Message-ID: <13400010@ccvaxa> Date: Sun, 29-Sep-85 20:38:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ccvaxa.13400010 Posted: Sun Sep 29 20:38:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 1-Oct-85 03:28:35 EDT References: <3120005@csd2.UUCP> Lines: 35 Nf-ID: #R:csd2.UUCP:-312000500:ccvaxa:13400010:000:2001 Nf-From: ccvaxa.UUCP!marick Sep 29 19:38:00 1985 From uiucdcs!ihnp4!uw-beaver!tektronix!upvax!bobbyd Sat Sep 28 02:09:03 1985 Subject: Re: Questions on Common Lisp Could you please mention to the net that the CMU SPICE implementation of Common Lisp was developed on the Perq? I mean, as far as I can tell that was the first implementation on a workstation at all, well before the other vendors. In fact the Perq SPICE documentation says that most Lispers at CMU prefer the Perq Common Lisp (or Spice Lisp, or Perq Lisp, running under the Accent operating system) to the Vax! Also, Perq Lisp has many features that the others don't: access to the Accent kernel calls, graphics via the Sapphire window manager, and Hemlock (ITS style EMACS) built-in to the Lisp image. As it stands now, Lisp is the fastest language on the Perq (I do believe), as they are still in the process of developing new microcode for Pascal, C, SubAda, and maybe revitalizing their Fortran 77. Through the Accent kernel's IPC facilities, Perq Lisp programs can be distributed throughout a multi-workstation environment via Ethernet. Transparently. And Matchmaker, a program that generates client/server code so different languages can pass messages through subroutine calls is written in Lisp. CMU is very much on the net, so I'm sure they can provide more details about their own projects. I say the Perq is underpublicized, which is strange since it was the first REAL commercially available workstation, the first with RasterOp hardware, and one of the early workstations to use Ethernet. They even offered an interface to the Canon laser printer before anyone else. Ah, but they didn't bring up Unix on it... Well, the flames of an old Perq fanatic are hard to extinguish. Our site is hopelessly brain damaged, and I can't post directly to the net. In fact, it is quite dubious that I can even get e-mail through anymore. All I get back is "Site unknown" messages. A true bummer. Chris Lamb, Uncontrollable Perq Fanatic ...!tektronix!teklds!upvax!bobbyd