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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Planned Parenthood posting
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Date: Sun, 15-Sep-85 21:26:45 EDT
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>>I think we've
>>seen enough examples of Ray's illiteracy when it comes to the issues (in
>>net.religion, he claimed that the USA was founded as a Christian country and
>>that we should "return" to that).  What scares me is not that he is a standout
>>crackpot.  What scares me is that I fear he is typical.  Isn't Marcel Simon
>>having it out with someone else in this newsgroup who claims "sex outside
>>marriage is wrong regardless of religion, because ... uh ..."?  This is what
>>is scary.  This sort of "thinking" is the status quo. [ROSEN]

> You've stated a contradiction here.  How can I be a standout crackpot if as
> you say I am typical? [RAY]

Are you out to prove me right?  I said rather clearly that what scares me is
NOT your being a standout crackpot, but rather your being quite typical. And
you later said that you knew this, so whom are you kidding?  I'm beginning
to think that perhaps you are just trying to make people who who hold positions
such as the ones you have described look foolish.  Don't bother.  It's easy
enough to show the flaws in such beliefs without lampooning them.

> Typical in terms of representing the nation's people as a whole?  If I am the
> status quo, then it is you and your cronies such as the likes of Charlie and
> Richie that stand out.

(Charlie?  Richie?)  Status quo's have been wrong before.  And they will
continue to be wrong in the future.  It is blind acceptance that the status
quo is "right" that destroys civilizations in the long run.

> As usual, the central topic has been avoided and side issues focused upon.  

Of course.  We WERE talking about an article of yours, weren't we?  When
was the last time an article of yours came anywhere near discussing abortion
at all?
-- 
"to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day
 to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human
 being can fight and never stop fighting."  - e. e. cummings
	Rich Rosen	ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr