Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site homxb.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!vecpyr!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!harvard!think!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!homxb!hrs From: hrs@homxb.UUCP (H.SILBIGER) Newsgroups: net.auto,net.legal Subject: Re: Radar Surveillance Message-ID: <719@homxb.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 15:12:22 EDT Article-I.D.: homxb.719 Posted: Wed Aug 14 15:12:22 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Aug-85 02:05:58 EDT References: <1081@homxa.UUCP> <4891@allegra.UUCP>, <269@ihlpl.UUCP>, <1090@homxa.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 37 Xref: linus net.auto:6656 net.legal:1726 While I am a fundamentalist on the constitution and the bill of rights, I don't see why the use of radar guns is any different from the use of stopwatches, motion detectors, and calibrated speedometers. The fact that every car's speed is measured is also not relevant. A police officer may be at a stop sign, and watch evrey car that passes. If a car comes by ansd does not stop, a ticket is issued. Would you claim that this is also unconstitutional? This situation is totally analogous to setting the radar gun to give an alert when a car exceeds 55 mph on a 55 mph limit road. As far as posession of a radar detector being illegal, in spite of the seller's claim that it is to be used for the prevention of disease only (sorry, that was another product) for the alerting of inadvertant speeding only, that is just so much verbiage. The fact is that if you don't exceed the speed limit, you don't need a detector. In NJ and most states it is illegal to possess burglary tools. The reason is that they are for committing burglaries, an illegal act. It seems to me that possessing a radar detector is for committing speeding. I do not own a radar detector, because I think it would encourage me to speed. I do use a cruise control. I do move with traffic when most of it is exceeding the 55 mph limit, to do otherwise would be foolish and unsafe. I am not in favor of a law banning radar detectors. These can easily be concealed, making it difficult to enforce, Such laws only encourage breaking them, and probably would not reduce speeding. Herman Silbiger ihnp4!homxb!hrs