Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!chabot@amber.DEC (All God's chillun got guns) From: chabot@amber.DEC (All God's chillun got guns) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: men dominate net.women (flame-ish) Message-ID: <37@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Aug-85 16:11:05 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.37 Posted: Tue Aug 20 16:11:05 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Aug-85 08:32:46 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 47 Well, Andy, your letter doesn't really treat with the issue that men do dominate net.women. The biggest issue is that females are outnumbered by males on the network. Hence more posters are men than women. Also, more silent readers are men. So what. What is closer to the issue is that many who might post here do not feel comfortable because of the tenor of the net. I'm sure this is true in many other newsgroups, where the rabid anti-foos post to net.foo, and many of the quieter foos just don't feel like participating in all the posting of profanity and ranting, or rather, don't feel like even posting anything nice and calm in the midst of all the mud-slinging. Accusing women of being too chicken to post to net.women, is an idiotic thing to do. I'm mad too. So there. So what. Go suck eggs. What I'm always perplexed by is the ever-recurring attitude by some men that net.women is a place for them to post "How I Think Women Should Act". Look, buckos, women don't give a hoot if you approve of what you think women should dress like--if you want to say what you look for in a motas, go bother the people in net.singles who are likely to be just as bored by your personal preferences. Besides, what do you think women are here for: looking for recognition and approval by Men? > Karla, I am never going to step aside and let someone have what I > have worked for, *just* because they are famale, or black or have six toes. I don't have to prove I'm anyone's equal and I certainly don't care if anyone decides to withhold such approval. Andy, do tell us just how much you've worked for the right to post to the net, but maybe this is rather a topic for net.news or net.news.group. This isn't a football field, and we're not playing a team or competitive sport, and your analogy's stale. Just how does Affirmative Action relate to net.women, other than as a topic of discussion? Has anyone threatened to deprive you of being allowed to post to net.women because of, say, quotas? However, if this is how you (anybody out there) view net.women or any other net newsgroup, then this would explain a good deal. If competition is the way to go, if the idea is not to appreciate the postings of others but rather to post one better, this would explain a lot. This might explain the cheap pot-shots taken at thoughtful articles. This would explain the absurd cycling over and over about who does what wrong in the bathroom or in the office or on the streets, past the point of humor or wit. L S Chabot ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot chabot%amber.dec@decwrl.arpa