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From: ekblaw@uiucdcsp.Uiuc.ARPA
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Subject: Re: Orphaned Response
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Date: Thu, 22-Aug-85 21:18:00 EDT
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Nf-From: uiucdcsp.Uiuc.ARPA!ekblaw    Aug 22 20:18:00 1985


I think the problem here is that the people responding have machines from
one of the two companies (Commodore and Atari) and are trying to insult the
other one, but do it on fair ground.  Since I don't own a machine from either
of them, I can speak fairly about BOTH.

Point #1:  Yes, Commodore has been outselling Atari.  Yet, IBM has been out-
           selling both.  Why?  IBM gains two audiences; the ones who know
           what they want at the start and buy big, and those that outgrow both
           the 800 and C64 (notoriously weak machines by any NONBIASED standard)
Point #2:  Commodore slipped in the market last Christmas (and still is, by the
           way) due to a serious fault in that company - they completely scrap
           the old machine when a new one comes along.  That means that the
           company would no longer support the C64, and so new buyers didn't
           want to be stuck with a worthless warranty.  Need proof?  The
           company (Commodore) did the same thing when the C64 come out.  
           Remember its predecessor, the VIC 20?  May it rest in peace.

Point #3:  Commodore sales drive have been assisted by the worst insult to
           the American intelligence in decades - Madison Avenue.  Commodore
           has advertised heavily on the television (much more so than any
           other company), so people see them more and the name sticks out in
           their memory.

There are other reasons, but I think you get my drift.

PS to Randy Horton:  Apple is not a bad company.  In fact, they are the only
honest one.  You say that they charge more for less.  Maybe in your mind, but
at least what they claim their machines can do is possible to be done.  When
Commodore does the same thing, I'll be surprised.