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From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag)
Newsgroups: net.philosophy
Subject: What is this free will stuff?
Message-ID: <1085@mhuxt.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 17:27:18 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 14 17:27:18 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 15:44:04 EDT
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     I just started reading this newsgroup today, and I found this amazingly
long and convoluted argument about whether or not 'free will' exists, and
it's clear that the various people in the argument DISAGREE ABOUT WHAT
'FREE WILL' MEANS!  How can you argue with people for weeks about the
existance/nonexistance of some quality without defining it!
     Rich Rosen seems to think that an entity would have 'free will'
(yes, I'm going to continue quoting it until I can get a decent definition
of it.) only if said entity could radically modify its mindset without
external help.
     Others seem to have weaker criteria, though many of you seem to think
that causal systems (ie intelligent computers, human brains without 
quantum indetermanancy, etc.) could not display 'free will'.
     BUT WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY 'FREE WILL'?
     If I decide to post an article to netnews, have I displayed 'free will'?
If not, is it because my decision merely reflects the bio-electrical-chemical
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