Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ptsfb.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!dual!ptsfa!ptsfb!che From: che@ptsfb.UUCP (Mitch Che ) Newsgroups: net.usenix Subject: Re: Disillusionment with Usenix tutorial Message-ID: <212@ptsfb.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Aug-85 14:48:16 EDT Article-I.D.: ptsfb.212 Posted: Sun Aug 11 14:48:16 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Aug-85 02:43:17 EDT References: <92@tekadg.UUCP> <6@nbs-amrf.UUCP> Reply-To: che@ptsfb.UUCP (Mitch Che - 4e750w) Organization: Pacific Bell, San Francisco Lines: 30 Summary: Brief flame, introductory courses In article <6@nbs-amrf.UUCP> libes@nbs-amrf.UUCP (Don Libes) writes: >While I'm on the subject, just what is the point of offering courses >like "Elementary C programming" or "Elementary shell programming" or "An >Introduction to UNIX" at a Usenix conference? The conference is >supposed to cater to experienced UNIX users, no? You're not going to go >to AAAI or SIGGraph to get an introduction to AI or graphics, are you? > FLAME ON: I guess you were born a UNIX expert, right? I have run across this attitude before: if you're not already experienced in a subject don't show up... and certainly don't ask questions... Auggh!!! FLAME OFF. Seriously, I am perfectly happy seeing people show up at conferences for introductory courses. The quality of the advanced courses shouldn't suffer if the courses are described, outlined and taught properly (which they apparently weren't in the cases described above). Your example of Siggraph is perfect. As always, this year they held a few intro. courses along with their more interesting/advanced courses. Does anyone think the advanced courses there suffered because of "Intro. to Raster Graphics"? Conferences should be forums for exchange of ideas and info between ALL levels of expertise... -- Mitch Che Pacific Bell --------------------------------------- disclaimer, disclaimer, disclaimer, too (415) 823-2438 uucp: {ihnp4,dual}!ptsfa!ptsfb!che