Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site amdcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!gatech!amdcad!linda From: linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: PMS, transexuals, and testosterone poisoning Message-ID: <2635@amdcad.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Aug-85 19:46:30 EDT Article-I.D.: amdcad.2635 Posted: Tue Aug 13 19:46:30 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Aug-85 22:50:58 EDT References: <291@SCIRTP.UUCP> <2564@amdcad.UUCP> <2614@sun.uucp> Distribution: net Organization: AMDCAD, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 41 Summary: I commend Sunny's honesty. We all have a "male" and "female" side. > > Sometimes, I just can't believe the hostility and rejection of me, both on a > human level, and as a valid data point. I feel that several people in this newsgroup have been too hostile and rude toward's Sunny. I admire her honesty, in a world where there are so many con artists and manipulators running around. > Otherwise, you can only speak of what it > is like to be male, or to be female. I'm not sure that I agree with this. The Jungian theory of psychoanalysis maintains that there is a male and female side of each person. The male side of a woman, and vice versa, will often manifest themselves as characters in a person's dreams. This means that not all of the personality is based on hormones and chemical changes, but upon spirituality and the collective unconscious as well. There are some people who find Jung's ideas to be mystical and religious, and this is to some extent too. But I feel that through dream analysis, reading of a great deal of literature, and empathy, it is possible for a person to begin to understand some of the feelings of the opposite sex. From discussions with men who are honest, I have learned a great deal about men's feelings that I did not previously understand. So while Sunny's experience should be listened too, I think that all of us have some degree of understanding of both male-ness and female-ness. Linda Seltzer > > Just keep on rejecting me. Just keep on rejecting what I've said about the > effects of hormones. Just keep on saying to the world: > Don't bother me with the facts, My mind is made up. > I will go a way. I will shut up. Because it is futile to cast pearls of > wisdom before swine. > > Sunny > -- > {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)