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From: lmc@denelcor.UUCP (Lyle McElhaney)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Rape (A Solution)
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Date: Thu, 8-Aug-85 19:34:53 EDT
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Posted: Thu Aug  8 19:34:53 1985
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> I am not proposing video cameras in the home.  First of all, they
> would not be cost effective since at least one would be needed
> for each household while cameras monitoring the streets would serve
> many house holds.
> Second of all, the video camera system does not have to be run by
> the government.  It is conceivable that a real estate syndicate might
> purchase a large amount of real estate in a given neighborhood where
> prices are greatly depressed due to a high crime rate.  They might
> install and monitor the cameras to make a profit from selling the
> real estate or renting it out at a higher value than expected.

Someone mentions cameras, everyone else starts chanting "1984, 1984" like
the novel actually predicted something.  There are cameras used almost
everywhere of corporate importance now. Look up above the cash register in
any department store built in the last 10 years. Look in your local
Burger King restaurant (mine, at least). Look on top of almost any
building overlooking a private parking lot. Look around in the next
mechanical teller booth you are in. If its cameras that bother you, you'd
best move to the country.

Television cameras, obviously, can be misused.  There was something posted
a while back about cameras in the dressing rooms, where a great many petty
robberies take place in clothes stores.  So what's a manager to do?
Guarantee that only women (for example; pardon my sexism) will look at the
monitors?  Remove them and add 5% to everything in the store? What
constitutes improper use, anyway?

Cameras in the home. Could there be any justification? Hmmm....lets drop
1984 for a while and try, perhaps, Niven and Pournelle's Oath_of_Fealty,
where an arcology (that's an enclosed, self-maintained city) has cameras
inside the apartments. Read it and see why people might flock to live
under those circumstances.

Lyle McElhaney
...denelcor!lmc

PS: Oh, and if you think that the cameras on the street corners just won't
work out for any of the reasons cited, I urge you to consider what the
costs of foot/car patrol labor are to do the equivalent surveilance,
look around in your favorite mall, and put two and two together. They'll
be there, soon.