Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tektronix.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!moiram From: moiram@tektronix.UUCP (Moira Mallison ) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Clothing as self-expression Message-ID: <5625@tektronix.UUCP> Date: Thu, 22-Aug-85 16:31:19 EDT Article-I.D.: tektroni.5625 Posted: Thu Aug 22 16:31:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Aug-85 19:35:09 EDT References: <1050@mtgzz.UUCP> <1500@peora.UUCP> Reply-To: moiram@tektronix.UUCP (Moira Mallison ) Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 52 Summary: In article <1500@peora.UUCP> jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) writes: >> I have to admit that computer types are some of the worst dressed people >> I've ever seen! > >I always liked that about computer types, actually; it sort of suggests >that they spend their time thinking about other things besides trying to >influence what others think of them by what they wear. It may suggest that. I disagree however with the implication that the converse is also true. ie, that people who dress well 1) have to spend an inordinate amount of time doing it, and 2) do it solely to influence what others think about them. >Lots of "computer >types" seem like warm, genuine people to me... just look how different the >"norm" here is in terms of opinion related to social matters than in >society as a whole! [Actually I think it's because they are mostly >engineers, and thus tend to feel more in control of the world around them, >rather than by being influenced by it.] I don't spend a lot more time dressing in the morning that if I wore t-shirts and jeans to work. I don't wear them to work because I don't feel *comfortable* wearing them to work. And I refuse to accept that because someone feels comfortable in t-shirts and jeans at work and I don't that that person is somehow morally superior to me. What we wear *is* an expression of who we are, and we influence people by what we wear whether it is intentional or not, whether we want to or not. I am a multi-faceted, eclectic person and my choice of what to wear is some nondeterministic algorithm that takes into account how I'm feeling, what's clean, what my scheduled appointments are, and yes, sometimes who I expect to see. >> You obviously don't appreciate the differences of color and form. > >Hey, now, wait a minute... what's this? Don't you read net.rec.photo, where >all us "computer types" are arguing about what kind of film gives the best >color rendition, etc.? I worry about color and form all the time; just not >in my clothes. (Well, I do like brown clothes, though.) So, is it somehow morally inferior to express our appreciation of the differences of color and form when we dress ourselves. >Wouldn't just choosing some color at random and sticking to it do this? >I'd think you could try on various colors, look at yourself in a mirror >each time, until you find some that make you feel good about how you look. This is of course the efficient way to get the job done :-) Moira Mallison tektronix!moiram