Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!dual!qantel!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!burl!clyde!watmath!watnot!watdcsu!dmcanzi From: dmcanzi@watdcsu.UUCP (David Canzi) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Those amazing 250 pound birds. Message-ID: <1600@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Aug-85 01:13:35 EDT Article-I.D.: watdcsu.1600 Posted: Tue Aug 13 01:13:35 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Aug-85 05:24:36 EDT Distribution: net Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 27 Ted Holden has used the pteratorn, a 250 pound bird with a 30 foot wing span, as evidence that the force of gravity was once less than it is now. Birds existing today that fly weigh less than 30 pounds, and the largest can barely take off. I'll give Ted the benefit of the doubt, and assume for the sake of argument, that the pteratorn existed, would not be able to fly today, and that the force of gravity was weaker before the flood. If all this is so, then, even in lower gravity, the pteratorn would *still* not be able to fly. Sure, the bird would weigh less, but so would the air. The lighter air would, as a result have lower pressure, and as a direct result lower density. Even though the bird would be lighter, the thinner air still wouldn't be able to support it. The flood waters above the surface of the earth couldn't add any weight to the atmosphere to increase it's density to a point where it could support the bird, because, as Ted has said, the water was *orbiting*. I'm rather curious to know whether the Velikovskians have ever thought of this problem, and if so, what their answer to it is. -- David Canzi Ultimate tabloid headline: "Crazed by UFO radiation, pregnant man bites dog."