Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <486@utastro.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Aug-85 11:16:08 EDT Article-I.D.: utastro.486 Posted: Sun Aug 4 11:16:08 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Aug-85 02:12:56 EDT References: <347@scgvaxd.UUCP> <14600028@hpfcrs.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 28 > As a creationist, I believe that "vestigal" organs demonstrate "regression" of > species over time, and serve no evidence for evolution. I may be all wet, but > I really fail too see how "vestigal" organs serve as good evidence of > evolution. I missed this the first time through, but Leif's wording here is significant. *Since* he is a Creationist, *Therefore* he believes thus-and-so. In other words, it doesn't matter what the evidence is. If the evidence contradicts Creationism, Creationists will try to explain it away. The scientist takes the evidence as primary. If the evidence contradicts the theory, it is the theory that has to give way, not the evidence. So far, Creationists have presented a lot of alleged "evidence" for Creationism (Ron's 116 reasons). Lots of it is plain wrong. Lots of it is irrelevant. NONE of it stands up to critical examination. Therefore I remain an evolutionist. -- "Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail) {allegra,ihnp4}!{ut-sally,noao}!utastro!bill (uucp) bill%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA (ARPANET)