Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hpfcrs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hpfcdc!hpfcla!lief From: lief@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Handwaving Message-ID: <14600042@hpfcrs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Aug-85 10:22:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfcrs.14600042 Posted: Tue Aug 13 10:22:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Aug-85 05:05:30 EDT Organization: 13 Aug 85 08:22:00 MDT Lines: 33 > [Bill Jefferys] >Let me give you an example. Henry Morris wants to explain the entire >geologic column, including the Grand Canyon, by the Noachian Deluge. >He waves his hands, calls the rain out of nowhere, makes the water >disappear into nowhere, and presto! The geologic column. No calculations. >No hydrodynamics, no hydrology, no physics, just a bunch of words. WHERE, >IN ALL THE CREATIONIST LITERATURE, IS THERE EVEN AN ATTEMPT TO DEAL >WITH THIS FUNDAMENTAL CREATIONIST ASSERTION USING THE TOOLS OF PHYSICS? >Answer: Nowhere will you find it. That's why one can't credit this >idea with being scientific. Right now I am in the process of reading "The Genesis Flood" by Morris. To assert that he "waves his hands, calls the rain out of nowhere, makes the water disappear into nowhere, and presto! The geologic column"... I would assume that you have read it. The only thing is, I don't find that to be the case at all. If by handwaving you mean he calls into play the power of God, then I can understand where you are coming from, even if I don't agree with you. By the way, could you give me the calculations and physics involved in explaining to me why the bumble-bee can fly? Or why man uses less than 1/6 th of his brain? Or perhaps share with us the chemical formula and the synthetic equations needed to produce life from non life? Perhaps give us the calculations that tell us why this planet has an atmosphere of Nitrogen and Oxygen and the others don't. How about using the "TOOLS OF PHYSICS" to tell me why I am writing this? I predict that you will give me nothing more than handwaving! Lief Sorensen HP Fort Collins, CO Uucp ...!hpfcla!lief