Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxm!ess4hb From: ess4hb@ihuxm.UUCP (m.p. cornell) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.politics Subject: Re: Islam, Christianity and Hitler Message-ID: <1296@ihuxm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 8-Aug-85 15:37:11 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxm.1296 Posted: Thu Aug 8 15:37:11 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Aug-85 05:39:14 EDT References: <1621@akgua.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 61 Xref: linus net.religion:6942 net.politics:9705 > > > > Paul Dubuc contributed this as part of his reply to Mr Martillo > about the logical connection between Luther's hideous attitude > toward Jews ( postulated cause ) and the Holocaust that occurred > in Germany 450 years later (postulated effect). > > >>Also, I think Luther's opinion played a relatively minor part with Hitler > >>compared to Nietzsche, for example (either directly, or indirectly through > >>men like Albert Camus and Jean Paul Sartre). Also, where do you think > >>Hitler got his ideas about eugenics and social Darwinism? Was that part > >>of Luther's fundemental ideology? > >> > >>-- > >> > >>Paul Dubuc cbscc!pmd > >> > >> > > Remember that the Nazi hero Nietzsche was about as hostile an atheist > as you could dig up back in the 19 th Century. Just for the record > let's rerun some quotes that have appeared on the net at an earlier time > to see where Hitler got his feelings about religion in general and > Christianity specifically. > > MR ADOLPH HITLER SPEAKS ON RELIGION: > > "The religions are all alike, no matter what they call themselves. They > have no future - certainly none for the Germans. Fascism, if it likes, > may come to terms with the Church. So shall I. Why not? That will not > prevent me from tearing up Christianity root and branch, and > annihilating it in Germany.... > > A German Church, a German Christianity, is distortion. One is either a > German or a Christian. You cannot be both...." > > HOW ABOUT THE GERMAN FAITH MOVEMENT: > > Or from Professor Hauer, one of the three leaders of the German Faith > Movement of the 30's and 40's: > "We confess the primal religious will of the German people. Through this > leadership we believe we can find the road to salvation (Heil) for > ourselves and our people. > ...The struggle between Christianity and the German faith in the German > soul is thus an event of unexpected depth." > > And among the officially announced objectives of the GFM was: > "Therefore necessarily the German Faith Movement denies Christianity. It > rejects Christianity in every shape or form, because its fundamental > principles contradict the laws of life of people and race, and are alien > to what is intrinsically German." > > ************ > > Seems like these Nazis put in more time with Fuerbach and Nietzsche > than they did at the foot of the Old Rugged Cross. Uh-HUH. > > Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb} *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***