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Subject: Re: Re: Newsflash! [Subsidized Education
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Date: Tue, 13-Aug-85 17:51:00 EDT
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>/* Written  4:23 pm  Aug  7, 1985 by ubvax!tonyw in inmet:net.politics.t */
>/* ---------- "Re: Newsflash! [Subsidized Educatio" ---------- */
>In article <1110@umcp-cs.UUCP> version B 2.10.3 alpha 4/15/85; site ubvax.UUCP version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP ubvax!cae780!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!flink flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) writes:

>Education does one massive thing that its lack or its privatization
>could not:  it sets up people with credentials before they get their
>first job.  Hence it permits a match between many different levels
>of jobs and many different levels of credentials.  

Huh?  The GOVERNMENT runs the ETS folks who put out the 
National Merit Scholarships?  The SAT's?
The Achievement tests?  Oho!  That's news to me!

And what about private colleges?  Does the government run them
also?  My understanding was that the government CERTIFIED certain
things, but not, for example, the tests put out by ETS.

>Hence it makes
>filling a job a manageable task for most jobs, by helping to ensure
>that the number of "qualified" applicants for a job match the number
>of jobs more or less.  
>It also makes filling a job a less risky
>procedure, since applicants have accumulated a record which can
>be compared with other records even before the first job.

A peculiar stance, given that the colleges and private high
schools depend on private achievement tests.....

>Of course, the value of a credentialing system depends on the level
>of publicity, the level of enforcement, and the level of agreement
>on the value of particular credentials.  Hence, since the best
>guarantor of publicity, enforcement, and agreement between credentials
>is a public regulatory authority, 

Support please.

>and because people outside the
>educational system disturb the system of credentials, 

Support for the implication that the impact that outsiders have
is "distortion" and not "adjustment to reality", please.

>the place
>for education is in the public sphere, and education should be
>subsidized and regulated by a public authority.

Given a false premise, it's possible to prove anything.  Please back 
yours up.

>
>Even in Libertaria.
>

Ha!

>Tony Wuersch
>{amd,amdcad}!cae780!ubvax!tonyw
>
>"And if you don't believe all the words I say,
> I'm certified prime by the USDA!"

Prime?  Well, RIPE maybe.....

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