Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxf!features From: features@ihuxf.UUCP (aMAZon) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Imagine a non-sexist society... Message-ID: <2669@ihuxf.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Aug-85 13:11:20 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxf.2669 Posted: Wed Aug 21 13:11:20 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Aug-85 14:25:04 EDT References: <931@oddjob.UUCP> <235@whuts.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 45 > > A couple months ago I posted an article asking people to suggest what > > sorts of qualities they imagined a non-sexist society to have. > > BORING!!!! > > Unless the gene-splicers come up with a way of making us > androgynous, the idea is flatly impossible. Equal rights for women > (and men) is not the same as trying to erase all differences between > the sexes. I think that many people are confused about this. I am > not. I support equal *rights* whole-heartedly. The idea of a > non-sexist society is absurd. The most interesting women I know are > those that are not trying to deny their femininity, yet refuse to > take any sh*t from men. > > Someone will probably point out that I find them interesting because > they meet my expectations about women--there, I've saved you the > trouble of posting it. > > Best regards, > Andy Cohill > {allegra|ihnp4}houxm!whuxl!whuts!amc I couldn't fairly edit this, so left it whole. Someone (sorry, forgot who) posted an article recently which asked if net.women == feminism, 101. I would have thought such reiterations would be unnecessary, but the above shows it. Since when has non-sexist been equal to androgynous? In a non-sexist society, people can delight in their own special talents, whatever they be, without having adverse effects on career, personal life, etc., because of some pre-determined gender classification. That does not mean that women cease to be women. It does not mean that women become lesbian. It does not mean that women hate men. What it does mean is that women are given a fair shake in the job market and other areas, and that men are given the same fair shake. Seems to me that we have to be less concerned with yuppiedom and more concerned with getting communications channels cleared out (again). I cannot believe that anyone would think that "non-sexist" means "no sexual differences of any sort allowed". Sometimes the simplest lessons are the hardest to learn. *SIGH* -- aMAZon @ AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL; ihnp4!ihuxf!features