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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion
Subject: Re: Pfui
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Date: Fri, 9-Aug-85 09:44:00 EDT
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>>Can you give an example from your personal experience of something you
>>didn't like that you chose to like.  Try it.  Take something you absolutely
>>despise, and decide to like it.  Remember, no conditioning to change your
>>behavior toward that thing will be allowed.  After all, you can do it
>>without "new experiences"... [Rich]

>     OK.
>     I do not like Scientific Materialism at all, so I decided to like it. 
    
This is somewhat similar to the way a number of people seem to form beliefs:
just choosing to "like" (believe in) a particular set based on what the
family and friends do without thinking about them.  But seriously, what do
you now like about it?

>         And I spoke to Nihil, the God of Scientific Materialism:
> 	"Our Father, who art not
> 	 I ignore Thee!"

I wonder if the difference between sanity and insanity is that sane people
ignore the things that are not, while insane people can't seem to...

>     This may seem unnecessarily contrary, but is not logically inconsistent:
>     It is tautologically easy to have/not have something which does not exist,
>     like Free Will, when I do not exist either.
   
Did you do as I asked and stab yourself in the arm with a fork?  After all,
if you don't exist, it won't hurt, will it?

>     "The real world truly exists
>      But nothing actually happens there.."

You just don't go out to the right clubs...

> -not Rich Rosen  [i.e., MICHAEL ELLIS]
-- 
Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen.
					NOT Not Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr