Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!sun!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Innate Sexual Differences Message-ID: <2644@sun.uucp> Date: Thu, 15-Aug-85 12:34:15 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.2644 Posted: Thu Aug 15 12:34:15 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Aug-85 21:09:29 EDT References: <3622@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 24 > :::::::::::::::: Jym Dyer > > The fact is, that only those who have experienced both sets of hormones can > > reasonably make any valid observations about what differences between the > > sexes are hormonally based. > > The experiences alone will not yield valid observations. There are many > other variables to consider, and a good number of them are only experienced sub- > jectively. On top of that, it's common (in this society, at least) to assume > that something occurring subconsciously is based on biology. > I don't wish to condemn Sunny's experiences as worthless, they are not. > But I must point out that the experiences alone will not yield valid insights > into innate sexual differences. It's easy, Jym, to say without supporting evidence, "X is invalid". How about you take a more constructive approach and say: "Y is more valid than X". Then we might gain something. So, Jym, what could possibly give us all better observations of which factors in humans are dependent on hormones, and which are not, than the observations of humans who have experienced both male and female hormones? Sunny -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)