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From: jbuck@epicen.UUCP (Joe Buck)
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Subject: Re: My $0.02's worth on Madonna
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Date: Sat, 3-Aug-85 22:59:40 EDT
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Summary: also Go-Go's, Tina Turner

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> From: mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON)
> Date: 31 Jul 85 23:19:19 GMT
> 
> First I should lay my prejudices on the line and say that I think Madonna's
> music is pure trash ...

Agreed.

> Madonna fans have made much of her independence. Well, most of what I have read
> (the TIME articles, mostly; I can't take PEOPLE and its ilk) about her
> states or implies that the is just the visible part of a massive PR
> campaign and that she has little to do with creating her songs and deciding
> what they will sound like. That has been the case for many female
> singers and bands (remember the Go-Gos?) and more than a few males,
> but why suddenly trot these claims of independence?

Please! While the Go-Go's were not one of my favorite bands, they were
hardly the creation of the American music industry. In fact, they had to
go to England to record a single with Stiff Records, a small punk/new wave
label (Devo had to take the same route). After seeing how popular that
single was on the college radios and new wave clubs ("We Got the Beat"),
an American record company signed them. They played their own instruments 
and wrote their own songs (neither of which Madonna does). They were for 
real. Madonna isn't.

A previous poster complained that Tina Turner also uses her sexuality,
and I as well as other people had said good things about her and bad
things about Madonna. I'm not some prude that turns purple because
Madonna's act might arouse someone's prurient interest. I just don't
like her act and am a little bothered by her young female admirers.

My true favorite is Chrissie Hynde and the Pretenders. But if video
had been big a couple of years earlier than it was, I don't know;
maybe the Pretenders would have had trouble getting a major record
contract. Life is rough for female rock musicians these days that don't
have MTV bodies (though I find Chrissie Hynde sexy -- mainly for her
voice and the personality she projects on her records -- MTV executives
probably don't).
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