Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion Subject: Re: Pfui Message-ID: <1450@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Aug-85 09:44:00 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1450 Posted: Fri Aug 9 09:44:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Aug-85 21:32:07 EDT References: <1276@pyuxd.UUCP> <2145@pucc-h> <1313@pyuxd.UUCP> <434@spar.UUCP> <1388@pyuxd.UUCP> <454@spar.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 37 Keywords: water, frog, splash Xref: linus net.philosophy:2003 net.religion:6969 >>Can you give an example from your personal experience of something you >>didn't like that you chose to like. Try it. Take something you absolutely >>despise, and decide to like it. Remember, no conditioning to change your >>behavior toward that thing will be allowed. After all, you can do it >>without "new experiences"... [Rich] > OK. > I do not like Scientific Materialism at all, so I decided to like it. This is somewhat similar to the way a number of people seem to form beliefs: just choosing to "like" (believe in) a particular set based on what the family and friends do without thinking about them. But seriously, what do you now like about it? > And I spoke to Nihil, the God of Scientific Materialism: > "Our Father, who art not > I ignore Thee!" I wonder if the difference between sanity and insanity is that sane people ignore the things that are not, while insane people can't seem to... > This may seem unnecessarily contrary, but is not logically inconsistent: > It is tautologically easy to have/not have something which does not exist, > like Free Will, when I do not exist either. Did you do as I asked and stab yourself in the arm with a fork? After all, if you don't exist, it won't hurt, will it? > "The real world truly exists > But nothing actually happens there.." You just don't go out to the right clubs... > -not Rich Rosen [i.e., MICHAEL ELLIS] -- Anything's possible, but only a few things actually happen. NOT Not Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr