Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!sophie From: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Miscellaneous Ironies Message-ID: <1833@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Aug-85 12:03:29 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.1833 Posted: Tue Aug 20 12:03:29 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Aug-85 14:19:59 EDT References: <930@bunker.UUCP> Reply-To: sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) Distribution: net Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 37 Summary: In article <930@bunker.UUCP> garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson) writes: >Trying to catch up on the news after my vacation (did anyone >miss me?), I read several articles containing statements which >struck me as ironic. These are excerpted below. > >Then there is Sophie Quigley: >> ... People who would be better off having abortions >> are still deciding to keep the child anyway. Do you think that there >> should be laws enforcing abortion for people who obviously can't take >> care of their children. I certainly don't believe so. > >Sophie thinks she can tell who would be better off having an abortion, >and who obviously can't take care of their children. Sounds pretty >presumptuous. Aren't pro-lifers accused of presumption when they >say that a woman should not abort? > >And it must have been unintentional that Sophie referred to the >fetus as a "child." > I guess you are so involved hunting for ironies that you can't even recognise it when he sees it. If you care to reread my paragraph, you might notice that it was a prime example of sarcasm. The point I was trying to make was against the state controlling people's reproductive powers, whether they be positive or negative. I was saying EXACTLY that I or other people am not in a position to decide whether people can take care of their children or not (except for obvious cases of abuse), so that the only people who should decide whether to parent or not are the parents. That's what pro-choice means, having the choice to HAVE children as well as having the choice not to have children. Geez, some people have to have everything explained to them! And yes, people who have children willingly often refer to their fetuses as children. It's an innacurate term, but who cares? would coochi-cooh be better? -- Sophie Quigley {allegra|decvax|ihnp4|linus|watmath}!utzoo!mnetor!sophie