Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!ptb@Mitre-Bedford From: ptb@Mitre-Bedford Newsgroups: net.ham-radio Subject: Re: Ham Radio and Computer Networking Message-ID: <836@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 21-Aug-85 09:38:53 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.836 Posted: Wed Aug 21 09:38:53 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Aug-85 23:59:37 EDT Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 39 Not only must it be noncommercial, but NO ENCRYPTION is allowed. 97.117 states "The transmission by radio of messages in codes or ciphers in domestic and international communications to or between amateur stations is prohibited...." We have been trying to figure out how to allow a kind of remote-login facility here, wrestling with things like security requirements and the FCC rules. We have come up with some partial solutions in regards to "hooking it up" (over a LAN) to one host only, and warning people that it must only be used for educational purposes. (This seems to be the one purpose that both the FCC and my work place will allow.) The capability is not currently operational. Some of our solutions deal with one-way BIUs, extra security on the "host", and a one-time numeric password idea that I would rather not put over the net to everyone. If you want, give me a call, and we could discuss what we have been doing here. Are you at Harvard University? That is within a reasonable distance to get together and have an "eyeball". One should also note that the amateur bulletin boards of the W0RLI vintage DO ALLOW remote "login", however, they are public access systems. They rely on the requirement for stations to ID themselves, not use false callsigns, etc. to figure out who they are talking to. As far as secrecy of messages goes, I would say "forget it" when you are dealing with amateur radio. The TAPR boards have readily available a "listen and type out everything you hear" mode, and the law does not help at all either (Amateur radio is one of two services that does not have the secrecy of communications protection of the Communications Act of 1934). 73, and good luck, Peter Baldwin (ptb@mitre-bedford) (617) 271 - 2886 (local call from the Boston area)