Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekecs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!orca!tekecs!jeffw From: jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: PMS, transexuals, and testosterone poisoning Message-ID: <5605@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Aug-85 14:07:05 EDT Article-I.D.: tekecs.5605 Posted: Fri Aug 16 14:07:05 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Aug-85 21:26:35 EDT References: <291@SCIRTP.UUCP> <2564@amdcad.UUCP> <2614@sun.uucp> Distribution: net Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 37 > The fact is, that only those who have experienced both sets of hormones can > reasonably make any valid observations about what differences between the > sexes are hormonally based. I would go even further. Those who are male, know something about what it's like to be male. Those who are female, know something about what it's like to be female. Those who are transsexuals, know something about what it's like to be transsexual. It stands to reason, Sunny, even if you can't see it, that someone who wishes to change their sex is probably not terribly representative of all of those people who don't wish to change. But no. As one can see in the next paragraphs, you insist on seeing this entirely reasonable and valid objection (which you haven't yet been able to answer) as some kind of personal attack as well as an attack on transsexuals in general. > Sometimes, I just can't believe the hostility and rejection of me, both on a > human level, and as a valid data point. I seriously doubt any of the other > transsexuals on the net who could substantiate or further enlighten on my > observations of the effects of hormones will be willing to do so. Because > y'all are just too damned closed minded to listen, or to treat us as valid > humans. i.e. it just isn't worth the personal sacrifice to try to get a > valid viewpoint heard and known. > > Just keep on rejecting me. Just keep on rejecting what I've said about the > effects of hormones. Just keep on saying to the world: > Don't bother me with the facts, My mind is made up. > I will go a way. I will shut up. Because it is futile to cast pearls of > wisdom before swine. As an aside, I'd like to point out that your viewpoint might not generate so much hostility if it didn't have a good deal of hostility towards men in it to begin with. I remember some articles just a little while ago that were pretty pungent. This, of course, is another reason why some people will question your views of on the effects of male hormones. hoping for understanding... Jeff Winslow