Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: New Order Rumor Message-ID: <1551@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 20:42:34 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1551 Posted: Mon Aug 19 20:42:34 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Aug-85 19:56:52 EDT References: <433@sdchema.sdchema.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 32 > Pardon the offensive language that follows. > > I heard that Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys wrote a song > about New Order entitled "Nazi Punks Fuck Off and Die" or > some statement to that effect. Has anyone else heard this? > Has anyone heard the song (if it exists)? What are the > poltics of New Order? I liked Joy Division very much but > I must admit I haven't listened to New Order (yet). > > So much music, so little time... > > Denise > djo@CHEM.UCSD.ARPA To my knowledge "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" had nothing to do with New Order. (I'm curious as to where you may have heard that.) It DID have a lot to do with the new breed of rightwing hardcore types showing up at DK concerts and other punk events. It was an attempt by Biafra to dissociate himself from that substantial wing of the hardcore movement, and to build a base of support against Nazi punks in general. It didn't work. The same punks who thought that shock value was and is everything who got off on wearing swastikas and other Nazi regalia now stand side by side with the real rightwing scum, and it's hard as hell to tell the difference. Odd, the man who re-wrote "California Uber Alles" in pure Ministry of Truth fashion to cover the fact that he got us worried about the wrong California politico, speaking out against fascism. -- Popular consensus says that reality is based on popular consensus. Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr