Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!dual!qantel!ihnp4!houxm!hound!rfg From: rfg@hound.UUCP (R.GRANTGES) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Take the CD challenge! Message-ID: <1298@hound.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Aug-85 22:01:24 EDT Article-I.D.: hound.1298 Posted: Fri Aug 9 22:01:24 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Aug-85 00:54:13 EDT References: <3339@decwrl.UUCP> <436@petrus.UUCP> <1295@houxm.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 24 [] If you really have been following net.audio you will have observed that the most carefully controlled A-B testing done so far has failed to detect any difference at all (sonically) between two representative first generation designs, the much maligned Sony CDP-101 and the much praised Magnavox (Phillips)...something or other. The last such comparison, fully described on the net as to equipment, test procedure and environment, and material failed to draw a single flame until 3 0r 4 months later when one of the golden ears made a few remarks (including criticism of the material which he had forgotten he had chosen himself). There is,therefore, some reason to suspect that audible differences between units are somewhat exaggerated (i.e., mostly BS). However, this is not yet proven. Far from it. In fact, it is theoretically impossible to prove such a position. Thereobvious differences between units in such things as control flexibility, structural integrity, convenience features, etc. We hope soon to conduct another careful A-B test with different equipment and involving a comparison of first and second generation machines. In the meantime, enjoy, enjoy. -- "It's the thought, if any, that counts!" Dick Grantges hound!rfg