Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site iddic.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!amd!pesnta!hplabs!tektronix!orca!iddic!dhs From: dhs@iddic.UUCP (David H. Straayer) Newsgroups: net.legal Subject: Re: Seat Belts and Big Brother Message-ID: <2133@iddic.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 12:44:37 EDT Article-I.D.: iddic.2133 Posted: Mon Aug 19 12:44:37 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Aug-85 07:58:49 EDT References: <316@baylor.UUCP> <145@batman.UUCP> <2193@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: dhs@iddic.UUCP (David H. Straayer) Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 45 In article <804@burl.UUCP> you write: >In article <2106@iddic.UUCP> dhs@iddic.UUCP (David H. Straayer) writes: > (quote from my article on responsibility and risk taking) I'm not sure, but I think you are agreeing with me. It is a little confusing to read a followup to one's own posting and never be quite sure if one is being agreed with or ridiculed! >Society decides that motorcycles are "dangerous" and raises insurance? >Maybe you should worry about society deciding that motorcycles are >"dangerous" and BANNING them. > >alias: Curtis Jackson ...![ ihnp4 ulysses cbosgd mgnetp ]!burl!rcj My thesis is: 1: society is getting over-protective (seatbelt laws, no bottles,...), 2: people are often irresponsible, therefore, When defending one's right to take risks, your case will be stronger if you make it clear that you are willing to assume responsibility for the consequences of your actions. You seem to (I'm not sure) be objecting to paying higher insurance rates for motorcycles. If motorcycles are a more dangerous form of transportation than automobiles (probably a safe assumption), then those higher rates are a reflection of reality. If you expect the same low rates as auto drivers, then you are expecting others to be assuming some of your risks. So what is your position on being willing to accept the consequences of your risk taking? I'm not sure if it is: (a) I have a god-given right to take any risk I damn well please, and any attempt to interfere with it is unacceptable! (or) (b) I want to protect my right to take risks by accepting their consequences. This may mean paying more insurance. It may mean being limited in my ability to sue sue someone after I'm injured while doing risky things. Please respond with (a), (b), or some understandable rewording of either. David H. Straayer