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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion
Subject: Re: Pfui
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Date: Tue, 6-Aug-85 15:36:01 EDT
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In article <1388@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes:
>
>>     Speak for yourself, Rich. 
>>     
>>     It is becoming clear to me that difference of opinion on this issue
>>     ultimately derives from personal experience.
>> -michael
>
>Can you give an example from your personal experience of something you
>didn't like that you chose to like.  Try it.  Take something you absolutely
>despise, and decide to like it.  Remember, no conditioning to change your
>behavior toward that thing will be allowed.  After all, you can do it
>without "new experiences"...

	Oh great! Now you want to say that free will in your
definition requires that only certain methods be used to accomplish
a decision! I am *sorry*, but if I make a decision to do something
I see no reason why I cannot be free to accomplish that goal in any
manner that works. If I decide to like something and I conclude that
self-conditioning is the most effective way of doing this, then why
is that contrary to free-will, since the conditioning process was
initiated by *my* decision, not external control. And if this dort
of thing *isn't* possible, I might as well stop going to therapy and
save myself a lot of money every month!
-- 

				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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