Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site petsd.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!petsd!cjh From: cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) Newsgroups: net.med Subject: Re: AIDS IS PREVENTABLE Message-ID: <611@petsd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Aug-85 13:06:48 EDT Article-I.D.: petsd.611 Posted: Fri Aug 9 13:06:48 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 13-Aug-85 03:32:08 EDT References: <2038@ukma.UUCP> Reply-To: cjh@petsd.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Distribution: na Organization: Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls, N.J. Lines: 72 Summary: Questions raised by this article [] Bill Stoll's article on holistic medicine and AIDS raises some questions in the mind of a layman. I will excerpt his article. >The members of the American Holistic Medical Association, the >International Academy of Preventive Medicine, as well as many other >practitioners of a Holistic approach to medical care have known, for >[y]ears, the basic mechanism of AIDS. Was it published? References, please? BTW, what is the relation between the International Academy of Preventive Medicine and main-stream M.D.-type medicine? (A question for both Mr. (Dr?) Stoll and mainstream M.D.'s. >In the beginning a few >conventional researchers dared to suggest the truth but no one really >liked the idea because ... it didn't fit the conventional >paradigm of causation of disease. [The ellipsis covers a few sentences.] The idea, that AIDS requires a breakdown of the immune system after prolonged stress, reminds me of the work of Hans Selye. I had the impression he was respected by main-stream medicine. If this is the case, is it consistent with supposing that main-stream medicine pooh-poohed the Holists' view of AIDS? >A West German study, done in 1976, showed that the average person, in >western industrialized society, was exposed to >1000 times as many >stresses/person/day as people were 100 years ago, and that the rate >was increasing faster every year. 90% 0f those stresses were not >psychological, or social, but, were physical, chemical, nutritional, >electromagnetic smog, etc.; ENVIRONMENTAL stresses that didn't even >exist 100 years ago. References, please? AND critical treatment of these issues: (a) What is your universal quantitative measurement of the severity of a "stress", and how is this measurement justified? (b) How did the West Germans measure the stresses that people were subjected to 100 years ago, and how were these stresses quantitatively compared to those of today? Consider the environmental stresses that people faced 100 years ago, in comparison with those of today. Driving is stressful; but being limited to the speed of a horse and buggy ( ~ 4 miles per hour) must have been frustrating and therefore stressful as well. Which is better? Well, which have you chosen for yourself? Then there were the nutritional stresses... no fresh green veggies in winter, no refrigeration in summer, food preserved by smoking or salting it... (too much salt in the diet, not to mention carcinogens galore)... Somewhere I read once that in the early 1800's, English bakers frequently put alum in their bread to whiten it. (Cross reference discussion of aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease.) A consequence was kidney/bladder stones; Eton's infirmary had a ward for boys with bladder stones. This is getting far afield of AIDS; but it makes me feel uncertain that, where holistic medicine is valid, it is all that far from main-line M.D. medicine. Regards, Chris -- Full-Name: Christopher J. Henrich UUCP: ..!(cornell | ariel | ukc | houxz)!vax135!petsd!cjh US Mail: MS 313; Perkin-Elmer; 106 Apple St; Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 Phone: (201) 758-7288