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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Re: Live fetuses
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Date: Sat, 17-Aug-85 06:45:11 EDT
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>>>Come on Rich, admit that you made a mistake.  Fetuses are alive.
>>>There are enough good pro-choice arguments around without having
>>>to resort to lies to prove a point.  I'm sure that most people
>>>would respect you more if you admitted your mistake than if you
>>>(not just you) continued to weave silly webs around it to try
>>>to cover it up.
>>>-- 
>>>Sophie Quigley

>>Show me these "silly webs", Sophie.  When someone takes a 6-week fetus
>>out of a woman's body and it "lives", then it would be worthy of calling
>>it alive.  Until then, refrain from accusing other people of "resorting
>>to lies" when they have shown evidence to support their position, OK?
>>The fact the the fetus requires the environment of a human being's body
>>to provide it with support tells me quite clearly that it is not alive.
>>If you disagree with that notion, fine.  That goes against definitions of
>>life as we know it, but that's OK, the net is full of people who make
>>up their own definitions at whim.  [FLAME OFF]
>>[extraneous signature drivel omitted]
>>Rich Rosen	ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr

> But of course, you would never do that, right??

No.  And I didn't do it here despite your vacuous assertion.

> Geez, doesn't everybody remember that living  things  are  seldom  found
> within  the  human  body,  and the few that are will survive if removed?
> How quickly they seem to have forgotten this basic "fact."

Was this in English?  What does the statement (whatever it was supposed to
mean) have to do with fetuses and their status?

> Yes, really, Sophie.  You should stop accusing Rich of resorting to lies
> when  that  is not what he does.  He uses them exclusively.  He knows no
> other method than to use his own manufactured evidence  to  support  his
> claims.  This is known as being consistent and logical.

Manufactured?  The only thing manufactured are your contortions and
fabrications.  (Perhaps it would have been more succinct and to the
point to respond to this article by quoting "extraneous nonsense and lies
drivel omitted" rather than looking at the contentless trash again.)

> What a load!

Yeah, any points you can't answer constitute a "load", I guess.  Now,
go back and answer what I said or leave your abuse at the door.  Thank you.
-- 
"iY AHORA, INFORMACION INTERESANTE ACERCA DE... LA LLAMA!"
	Rich Rosen    ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr