Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!dual!qantel!ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: PMS and Incompetence Message-ID: <1039@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Aug-85 09:51:21 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxt.1039 Posted: Tue Aug 6 09:51:21 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Aug-85 00:17:48 EDT References: <2030CJC@psuvm> <1354@uwmacc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 30 > > Another point: Sunny posted an article comparing some experiences from both > > sides; so far I've seen two responses from men, both of whom stated that > > Sunny's experience couldn't be representative. However neither tried to > > answer this section of Sunny's posting: > > > On > > >the whole, from my observations of myself, and of other people, I'd > > >have to say that on the average, women are less bothered by their sex > > >than men are. Back in the old days, I all to often watched previously > > >intelligent conversations between men grind to a total halt, or to > > >blithering idiocy, as some nice looking woman walked by, and when she'd > > >disappeared from sight, would turn to discussion of her "fuckability" > > >rather than back to work. (was that blunt enough? no, not really). This > > >behavior pattern is most observable in a group of only men. The presence > > ---------------------------------- > > >of women reduces it's effects. Much of it is a very animalistic jousting > > >between the men to prove to each other who is the horniest. Personally, I haven't seen this type of behavior since high school. I have seen conversations temporarily halted while a head or two swiveled at lunch, but not during work. And on those occasions the conversation would be picked up where it left off; never since high school have I seen the conversation turn to her 'fuckability' as Sunny so nicely puts it. I *did* observe this kind of behavior in high school and working construction during the summers in high school. It seems that Sunny used to hang out with a pretty sleazy bunch of guys. -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "You've got a lot of nerve, to say you are my friend. When I was down, you just stood there grinning." - Dylan