Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!qantel!dual!lll-crg!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!Lear@RU-BLUE.ARPA From: Lear@RU-BLUE.ARPA (eliot lear) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Times have changed at Apple Computer ... Message-ID: <787@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 00:54:45 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.787 Posted: Mon Aug 19 00:54:45 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Aug-85 13:51:13 EDT Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 33 > Re: > >Ps: Hacking: Learning through unauthorized access > > How 'bout: > > Hacking: Destruction through unlearned access... > > Why all this romanticism about "hacking?" The "old fashioned" > hacker (the one who didn't try to f**k up other people's TRW files > or break into Bank of America's computers, but merely wanted to figure > out what made a machine tick and what it could be made to do) were > typically (although by all means not exclusively) moderately immature, > single-minded, boring individuals (in other words, yes folks, "nerds"); > "new-type" hackers are just plain felons. I don't understand what's wrong > with a school trying to protect its investments. > Besides, if nobody tried to keep the kids out of the guts of the > computer, they wouldn't be "hackers" by your definition, would they? Wrong. A TRUE hacker (not to be confused with the press' definition) is someone that knows how to find the "In"s and "Out"s of software or systems. If you have a problem with a software program or with a system, you should be able to find help when you find a TRUE hacker. An individual that breaks into systems or steals passwords is NOT a hacker - (S)he is a THIEF or a VANDAL. eliot lear [Lear@RU-BLUE.arpa] [{allegra,seismo,inhp4}!topaz!lear}] -------