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From: Lear@RU-BLUE.ARPA (eliot lear)
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Subject: Re: Times have changed at Apple Computer ...
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Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 00:54:45 EDT
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Posted: Mon Aug 19 00:54:45 1985
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>   Re:
>	>Ps: Hacking: Learning through unauthorized access
>
>    How 'bout:
>
>	Hacking: Destruction through unlearned access...
>
>   Why all this romanticism about "hacking?"  The "old fashioned"
>   hacker (the one who didn't try to f**k up other people's TRW files
>   or break into Bank of America's computers, but merely wanted to figure
>   out what made a machine tick and what it could be made to do) were
>   typically (although by all means not exclusively) moderately immature,
>   single-minded, boring individuals (in other words, yes folks, "nerds");
>   "new-type" hackers are just plain felons. I don't understand what's wrong
>   with a school trying to protect its investments.
>    Besides, if nobody tried to keep the kids out of the guts of the
>   computer, they wouldn't be "hackers" by your definition, would they?


Wrong.

A TRUE hacker (not to be confused with the press' definition) is someone that
knows how to find the "In"s and "Out"s of software or systems.  If you have a
problem with a software program or with a system, you should be able to find
help when you find a TRUE hacker.  An individual that breaks into systems or
steals passwords is NOT a hacker - (S)he is a THIEF or a VANDAL.


					eliot lear

[Lear@RU-BLUE.arpa]
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