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From: gordon@uw-june (Gordon Davisson)
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Subject: Re: Re: Out-of-Context Quote-of-the-Month.  July 1985.
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Date: Thu, 8-Aug-85 22:38:30 EDT
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>>>[Paul Dubois]
>>> Dobzhansky falls into the error of supposing that he knows what a
>>> creator would do [...]  How does he know?

>>[Peter DaSilva]
>>And since we don't know what a creator would do, creationism cannot predict
>>anything except through the sort of second-guessing you're reviling. Thus
>>creationism isn't a scientific theory. You can believe in it if you want,
>>but don't presume to call it science.

>[Dan Boskovich]
>We don't know what a creator "would" do, but we do know what a creator
>"did" do. Thus creationism is based on observation of the creation.

Ah, then you agree with Peter.  Since we cannot guess what the creator would
do, we cannot predict anything, just observe.  Also, since *any* observation
can be explained by "God did it.  We don't know why, but he did it," your
theory of creationism is completely unfalsifiable.  And unscientific.

>Example: We can observe that the creator created man with a potential
>for variation in characteristics. (height, weight, eye color, skin etc.)
>However, the genetic menu is limited. Man has never given birth to an
>ape. (Observation) Prediction: No genetic potential for producing an ape.

I don't see what this has to do with creation theory.  It's simple logic
(based on a rather questionable observation, but that's a different issue).
Why does creation theory get the credit for this?

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