Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hcradm.UUCP Path: utzoo!hcrvax!hcradm!mike From: mike@hcradm.UUCP (Mike Tilson) Newsgroups: net.usenix Subject: Re: Disillusionment with Usenix tutorial Message-ID: <2175@hcradm.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 21:19:06 EDT Article-I.D.: hcradm.2175 Posted: Wed Aug 14 21:19:06 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Aug-85 07:51:09 EDT References: <92@tekadg.UUCP> <6@nbs-amrf.UUCP> Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto Lines: 33 Don Libes (nbs-amrf!libes) writes about the "Advanced C" Usenix tutorial: > I didn't fill out an evaluation form at the end of the class because I > didn't stay till the end. I walked out at the first break. Several people have suggested that tutorial evaluation forms be handed out at the start, along with the other materials, to allow anyone who leaves early to still evaluate the course. This will be done in the future. > ... [the instructor] also said > that this was not his choice of material, but that the course syllabus > was given to him by the Usenix tutorial organizers. To clarify: He was requested to drop discussions of general algorithms in favor of more depth on advanced or unusual C features. The actual outline of the course and all of the materials were of his design; the specs were to conform to the published course description. We did ask for changes, but these changes were in the direction that everyone else seems to be asking for. For the information of net readers, the "Advanced C" course will either not be offered again, or if it is offered it will be relabeled and described differently. I think there is value in the course, but it missed its target for a number in the audience in this case. There was also a question about whether it makes sense to offer "introductory" courses at Usenix. Several others have already responded to this point quite well. / Michael Tilson / Usenix tutorial coordinator / {utzoo,decvax}!hcr!hcradm!mike