Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site spar.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!decwrl!spar!ellis From: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion.christian,net.origins,net.religion.jewish,net.nlang.india Subject: Dirge of Life Message-ID: <483@spar.UUCP> Date: Sat, 24-Aug-85 01:01:31 EDT Article-I.D.: spar.483 Posted: Sat Aug 24 01:01:31 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Aug-85 12:46:44 EDT References: <581@utastro.UUCP> <1322@umcp-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: ellis@spar.UUCP (Michael Ellis) Organization: Schlumberger Palo Alto Research, CA Lines: 52 Keywords: croak, gulp, splash, water, frog, croak... Xref: watmath net.philosophy:2418 net.religion.christian:1142 net.origins:2204 net.religion.jewish:2353 net.nlang.india:624 >>Resurrection implies continuity of something. The continuity >>is contained in the "we" that is resurected, since the "we" was there >>before, and after, resurrection. There's no way out of this. All >>this talk about our lack of understanding of life, and whether or not >>to take our intuition seriously is a bunch of horsefeathers that is >>going off on a tangent from this issue. [Padraig] > >I see. At A I have X, and at B I have X, so there must be a continuity of X >between the two. There are so many assumptions implicit in this that it's >hard to know where to start. > >There's quite obviously no point in continuing this discussion. [Charley] Don't stop there!? How do most people feel with regard to this matter? Padraig seems to indicate the life/death/resurrection cycle goes like this: LIFE -------------- ------------- -------..... SOUL ----------------------------------------------------------------... ...and Charley says it is like this: LIFE -------------- ------------- -------..... Of course, by Ockham, one can only logically conclude: LIFE --------------Funny, dat ole debbil Occam was a Christian Theologist! Regardless, I'd be interested in hearing (even dogmatic asssertions of faith) from people on this silly point. -am I existent yet? -ps from "Death" (t zero, Italo Calvino) The risk we ran: living forever. The threat of continuing weighed, from the very start, on anyone who had by chance begun. The crust that covers the Earth is liquid: one drop among the many thickens, grows, little by little, absorbs the substances around it, it is a drop island, gelatinous, that contracts and expands, that occupies more space ateach pulsation, it's a dropcontinent that spreads its branches overthe oceans, makes the polescoagulate, solidifies its mucusgreen on the equator, ifit doesn't stopin timeit - gobblesuptheglobe