Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1.chuqui 4/7/84; site apple.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!idi!apple!mark From: mark@apple.UUCP (Mark Lentczner) Newsgroups: net.lang.st80 Subject: Re: New micro Smalltalk-80s Message-ID: <15245@apple.UUCP> Date: Sat, 10-Aug-85 16:19:56 EDT Article-I.D.: apple.15245 Posted: Sat Aug 10 16:19:56 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Aug-85 23:43:23 EDT Distribution: net.lang.st80 Organization: Apple Education Research Group, Cupertino CA Lines: 40 [] I have used Methods, the Smalltalk for the PC. It is not based on the XEROX image at all. They did thier port from the books, so the language is the same, but the support classes are different. Most of the abstract and data-structure classes seemed to be there, but, things like the interface and the compilier were totally different. Furtermore, it's graphics aren't Smalltalk standard at all and without a mouse, was difficult to use. I know nothing much about Softsmarts, Inc. Smalltalk for the PC/AT except that it is XEROX version 2 Smalltalk-80. This probably means that it isn't that cheap (although, on the scale of things, probably cheap enough). I'd be intereseted to hear about performance. The other micro Smalltalk that was just released was Apple's pre- release version 0.2 for the Macintosh 512k systems, no hard disk needed!!!! At only $50, a steal. If you want more info I have lots (being in the Smalltalk group at Apple...) you can mail us at {ios,nsc,dual,voder}!apple!macst or macst@apple.CSNET. I will post the info to the net shortly Have fun: --Mark Lentczner Apple Computer UUCP: {nsc, dual, voder, ios}!apple!mark CSNET: mark@Apple.CSNET DoIt: | bic | bic <- Pen new. Point allInstancesDo: [:p | bic goto: p ]. -- --Mark Lentczner Apple Computer UUCP: {nsc, dual, voder, ios}!apple!mark CSNET: mark@Apple.CSNET