Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site hammer.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!dual!qantel!hplabs!tektronix!orca!hammer!seifert From: seifert@hammer.UUCP (Snoopy) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Re: marriage = commitment Message-ID: <1432@hammer.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 01:10:05 EDT Article-I.D.: hammer.1432 Posted: Mon Aug 12 01:10:05 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 06:38:09 EDT References: <508@ttidcc.UUCP> <485@oliveb.UUCP> <684@lll-crg.ARPA> Reply-To: seifert@hammer.UUCP (Snoopy) Organization: The Daisy Hill Puppy Farm Lines: 51 Xref: linus net.religion:6972 net.singles:7671 In article <591@ihu1m.UUCP> ajmiller@ihu1m.UUCP (a. miller) writes: >Marriage from a christian's standpoint is an institution created by God. ok >He commanded be fruitful and multiply. Looking at the world (over)population, I'd say that we have accomplished this. Perhaps we should now turn our attention to some of the other commandments, which we haven't done so well on. > ... someone must raise the children. The christian beleives >this is the wife's duties. The Christian Andy Miller believes this is the wife's duty. The Christian Dave Seifert believes this is the duty of BOTH parents. > The idea of quality time does not exist. The *idea* doesn't exist? huh? Quality time does exist. The problem is if you use high-quality time to justify low-quality time. > What children need is to be with their parents and the more time > the better. I suspect that you are refering to those who have kids, then put the kids in institutions while both parents work. I fail to see the point in having children only to stick them in some institution and continue with your career as usual. On the other hand, I'm not sure it *has* to be the parents that are with the child 24 hours a day. There is the time-honored tradition of Grand[mp]a-as-babysitter. Also Aunts and Uncles, older siblings, etc. And I'm sure that it is possible to find a *good* day care center. But again, if the parents aren't doing *most* of the raising of their kids, why did they have kids? To make Mom and Dad into Grandma and Grampa? To contribute to overpopulation? Because it's the 'in' thing to do? Bad reasons to have kids. Snoopy tektronix!hammer!seifert Whoops, oh, Lord, oh well I did it again. Now, I've got ten children of my own. I've got another child on the way, that makes eleven. But I'm in constant Heaven. I know it's all right in my mind. 'cause I got a little schoolgirl, an' she's all mine. -Page, Jones & Bonham