Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site pedsgd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!pedsgd!bob From: bob@pedsgd.UUCP (Robert A. Weiler) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Newsflash! [Subsidized Education Message-ID: <236@pedsgd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 10:28:53 EDT Article-I.D.: pedsgd.236 Posted: Mon Aug 19 10:28:53 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Aug-85 22:03:17 EDT References: <292@ubvax.UUCP> <28200051@inmet.UUCP> Reply-To: bob@pedsgd.UUCP (Robert A. Weiler) Organization: Perkin-Elmer, Tinton Falls, NJ Lines: 30 Summary: Organization : Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls NJ Keywords: In article <28200051@inmet.UUCP> nrh@inmet.UUCP writes: > > >If you want a lot of evidence for this, I suggest you read Charles >Murray's "Losing Ground". In brief, the welfare state has harmed those I must get a copy of this book I guess. As refutation, Teddy White in "The Making of the President 1972" claims that the average income for blacks rose dramtically under the Great Society. I can ferret out the exact numbers if you want. Apparently they came from the 1970 census, but its hard to tell. On the down side, the number of broken homes also rose dramatically. >The abolition of coercion need not make people more generous -- to >spend $1 on a poor person, the Federal government must take in >$5. A private agency need take in only about $1.10. Remember, we're Just curious, but what is the source for this? >Stop and think: how long did it take to get out of Vietnam? Why? I was going to argue against this and point out that in fact it was popular opinion and elections which did get us out, but on reflection, it does seem to me that it would never have happend if there was no draft and the American people where sent a bill every month from the Defense Company. So score 1 for the Libertarians. Bob Weiler. ps could we not meander so much in the future?