Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!fox@ozone.DEC From: fox@ozone.DEC Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: What Women Want Message-ID: <3651@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 15-Aug-85 09:24:20 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.3651 Posted: Thu Aug 15 09:24:20 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Aug-85 20:54:11 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Palo Alto, CA Lines: 47 -- > From my experience, what women say they want > is not always the same as what they actually want... > > I have read "The Hite Report" and similar reports, in which women > "honestly" discuss their sexual desires. They talk about > how they long for more foreplay and afterplay, and how they wish men > would go slower and take their time. Experience tells me, however, > that women don't really want those things, even though they say they > do... > > Seth Jackson Whenever I read someone's kvetching about women's desires for foreplay, I'm always reminded of Woody Allen's _Everything_You_Always_Wanted_to_Know_About_Sex_, specifically the vignette where the Italian husband (Woody Allen) is trying to get his wife to show some interest in sex. She's lying there looking bored, and he's running his hands up and down her body chanting (at least according to the subtitles) "foreplay ... foreplay ..." As long as (some) men see foreplay as something that's done _to_ the woman, and not something that's done for fun (or as long as the woman concerned perceives that to be the case -- not the same thing, I'll concede), the women I know will forgo the foreplay. As far as afterplay and "going slower" goes, what time of the day(night) is this happening? With some of my former partners, I was always tempted to sing that song by Genya Ravan and the Ten Wheel Drive: "I Usually Like It in the Morning Much Better" :-) And if none of the above applies to your situations, Seth, then all I can do is quote Liza Minelli in _Cabaret_: "They just must've been the wrong three girls"(sic) :-) Bobbi "On a scale of 1 to 10.... ...I'm an imaginary number!" UUCP: ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-nimbus!fox ARPA/CSNET: fox%nimbus.dec@DECWRL