Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site nbires.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!nbires!bob From: bob@nbires.UUCP (Bob Bruck) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Times have changed ... (Hackers, really) Message-ID: <467@nbires.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Aug-85 12:04:58 EDT Article-I.D.: nbires.467 Posted: Tue Aug 20 12:04:58 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Aug-85 20:04:32 EDT References: <787@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: NBI,Inc, Boulder CO Lines: 20 > Eliot Lear wrote: > Wrong. > > A TRUE hacker (not to be confused with the press' definition) is someone that > knows how to find the "In"s and "Out"s of software or systems... Still wrong. The term "hacker" has been around for generations. My grand- father used it to mean "someone who builds furniture with a hatchet". In the early days of computers, "hatchets" were the only tools we had to work with, and being dubbed a "hacker" was a sign of respect - it was inappropriate to call yourself a hacker, it was an honor placed on you by others. Well today, even though there are better "tools" available for the craftsmen to use (read "software engineering"), there are still those that prefer to use hatchets. They don't neccessarily know 'the "In"s and "Out"s of software or systems' better... I just think of them as "back to nature" types. Bob Bruck NBI Inc. Boulder, Co. (hao | allegra | ucbvax | ...)!nbires!bob