Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ittral.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!ittatc!ittral!hall From: hall@ittral.UUCP (Doug Hall) Newsgroups: net.micro.mac,net.micro Subject: Re: Amiga vs Mac Message-ID: <194@ittral.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Aug-85 23:16:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ittral.194 Posted: Fri Aug 16 23:16:15 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Aug-85 23:59:31 EDT References: <8883@ritcv.UUCP> <26700024@inmet.UUCP> <3241@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> <2643@amdcad.UUCP> Reply-To: hall@ittral.UUCP (Doug Hall) Organization: ITT Telecom B&CC Eng. Group, Raleigh, NC Lines: 33 Xref: watmath net.micro.mac:2435 net.micro:11555 I think there's a difference between the software supposedly available for the Amiga and the software that was supposedly available for the Mac. Before the Mac came out, there were a lot of people saying, "We're working on such-and-such" or "it'll be available shortly." From what I've read, a lot of folks have stuff ready for the Amiga NOW, not just beta test, but waiting to ship as soon as Commodore does. I suppose some might feel safe in saying that, since they know they have some time before Amiga ships, but I'll wager that there'll be more available for the Amiga when it ships then there was for the Mac. I hope the Amiga is a success, because I keep looking for the machine that the Mac never was. I was one of the first Mac software developers, back when you "had to have a Lisa" to do Mac development. The more I used the Mac, the more I longed for a machine with some kind of open bus, and a way to throw away all the icons and menu bars and other such garbage. (Ok, so you can get rid of the junk if you really want, but the first problem requires major surgery.) At any rate, I want to use my machine the way *I* want to use it, not the way Apple or Commodore or anyone else wants me to. I finally decided that the Mac was the computer for the rest of them, and obviously it's done very well without my help, thank you. Now, back to the Amiga vs. ST business. Does the ST really have an external bus? I mean like Address/Data and all that good stuff? Or does it depend entirely upon the DMA channels for this? I know the Amiga has everything but the kitchen sink coming out the side, and I'd rather have that than just a DMA connector. Anybody know? Also, is anybody besides me interested in getting OS9/68K running on the Amiga? Somebody's bound to have thought of it by now. Doug Hall ITT Telecom, Raleigh NC decvax!ittatc!ittral!hall