Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Free will - some new reading.. Message-ID: <1495@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 01:35:16 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1495 Posted: Wed Aug 14 01:35:16 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 14:49:50 EDT References: <1427@pyuxd.UUCP> <2193@pucc-h> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 25 >> Instead of describing what he learned from this brilliant book's first and >> last chapters, Carnes decides al he has to do is point me to them. [ROSEN] > Consider that a) the book is no doubt copyrighted, b) it would take a lot of > time to type stuff from it into the net -- time which you inexplicably seem > to have in huge abundance, but which others may not have, c) a mind which was > truly inquiring (and free) would seek out such books rather than spend all its > time and energy defending its own position. [SARGENT] Note that I did not ask for quotes from the book. On the contrary, I asked for just the opposite! I wanted to hear precisely what the recommender learned from the book, in his own words, NOT the final conclusion as quoted from the book, but the reasoning (as understood [??] by the reader) that got us there. If that is not present, or available, I fear the judgment would be against such a recommendation. And I certainly don't expect you, Jeff Sargent, to understand, based on what I have seen of how you choose beliefs, apparently seeing no need for substantiation of the reasoning leading to a conclusion. Given the large number of available books in the world, one must use such substantiation as a valid means of filtering out (at least as a start) the worthwhile from the worthless. -- "to be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best night and day to make you like everybody else means to fight the hardest battle any human being can fight and never stop fighting." - e. e. cummings Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr