Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!allegra!dep From: dep@allegra.UUCP (Dewayne Perry) Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Re: Music and nazism Message-ID: <4938@allegra.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Aug-85 19:22:29 EDT Article-I.D.: allegra.4938 Posted: Tue Aug 13 19:22:29 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Aug-85 00:53:30 EDT References: <1516@bbncca.ARPA> <452@olivee.UUCP> <4935@allegra.UUCP> <1043@ulysses.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 12 <> The problem of Wagner being adopted byt the Third Reich and its subsequent symbolism is indeed a problem. But, I submit, it is an extra-musical one. The use of Wagner as a symbol similar to the swastica is taking himout of the realm of music and giving hima nd his music another use. (similar things happen to music in other contexts - one Schubert piece has ben forever ruined by Allen Sherman?s "hello mudder, hello fadder") Its symbolic use may indeed have grave consequences, but they are independent of is musicality. keep music pure - Dewayne