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From: brianc@tekla.UUCP (Brian Conley)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: men dominate net.women (flame-ish)
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Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 10:47:37 EDT
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> 
> After ignoring most this newsgroup for a while, because of the
> plethora of male-submitted, uninteresting articles, I decided to go
> through some articles and tally up the submitters.  This resulted
> in some interesting statistics:
>  
> Of the first 141 articles: 41 were from women
>                           100 were from men
>                                        
> Thinking this was rather phenomenal, I did the same thing to
> the next 142 articles, this time: 34 were from women
>                                   108 were from men
>                                        
> Don't you men think this is a little peculiar?  Do you all
> think that each little passing thought is *so* insightful/unique/clever
> /whatever that you *must* post each one to the net?  SPARE US!  
> Stream of consciousness is not appropriate for this forum.
> 
     Stop right there Karla.  I've been reading this group for a few minutes
     and I'VE noticed one interesting point already.  Authors submit
     *MULTIPLE* postings to this group. How about giving us ALL the information
     , such as how many authors are men, how many are women, (how many are 
     both?) who (which author) submits the most articles, do women write fewer, 
     long and 
     clearly thought out stuff while men do 'quickies', etc.?

     For all I know there could be only ten people out in net.land who 
     contribute to this (I hope not).
> 
> I am *not* saying that men have no right to write to this newsgroup
> (or quietly read it and not respond).  (Men *are* 47% of the population 
> and have more jobs in this industry than women and more power in the 
> world.  They play a big part in women's lives, issues, and 
> problems.)  I am saying: spend a little more time thinking and 
> absorbing and observing, and less time reacting with a quickly written 
> retort.  I am saying: lighten up and quit taking your every thought so 
> seriously.  (A bet: that most of the flames I get as a response to this 
> posting are from just those men I'm talking about, and that the articles
> of support will come from the men I'm not talking about and from some
> women.)
> 
> As has been said recently (by a man with insight), there is no net.men 
> because men dominate *all* of the newsgroups.  (Why do you suppose 
> net.women.only and a private women's mailing list were started?)
> Please give us a break and dominate everything else, but not
> this newsgroup!  Thanks.
>                         Very Sincerely,
> 
>                         Karla Rikansrud
>                         AT&T Information Systems
>                         11900 N Pecos,  Denver, CO 80234
>                         drutx!karla

OK Karla, you caught me.  I fell for the inflamatory opening lines.
Now how 'bout the data? ARE men REALLY dominating this newsgroup?
Or are we just retorting?