Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Hurting the other by a "no" Message-ID: <1502@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 02:19:19 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1502 Posted: Wed Aug 14 02:19:19 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 14:51:31 EDT References: <5557@cbscc.UUCP><591@unc.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 18 >>Eventually, circumstances MAY lead such a person to a point where they do >>(perhaps because they see no other choice!) seek out help or change >>themselves, as circumstances led you to do so. *MAY*! If they don't, >>how can they be considered "responsible", how could they make the "choice"? > Being unwilling to consider that your "learned" beliefs *may* be wrong is > a choice. You have decided you want to be right about your beliefs more than > you want to improve your life. But even that is learned, and unwilling to change THAT is learned, ad infinitum. That's how political and religious belief systems trap people. Successfully. Frankly, Greg, this sounds mighty disdainful of anyone who has been so trapped. And you still owe a set of definition of your terms "choice" and "responsibility", since you've admitted that you use them differently from most people. -- Life is complex. It has real and imaginary parts. Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr