Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site mnetor.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!mnetor!fred From: fred@mnetor.UUCP (Fred Williams) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: We've GOT to do somethin' for Peace Dept. Message-ID: <1783@mnetor.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 12:06:43 EDT Article-I.D.: mnetor.1783 Posted: Mon Aug 12 12:06:43 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Aug-85 13:28:15 EDT References: <3459@decwrl.UUCP> <124@unc.unc.UUCP> Reply-To: fred@mnetor.UUCP (Fred Williams) Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada Lines: 41 Xref: utcs net.politics:10184 net.flame:11234 Summary: In article <124@unc.unc.UUCP> fsks@unc.UUCP (Frank Silbermann) writes: >In article <3459@decwrl.UUCP> arndt@lymph.DEC writes: >> >>A doctor just back from the good ole USSR writes in the current American >>Medical Assoc. Journal that we and they should exchange 250,000 students >>as hostages against the threat of nuke war... > >Don't fall for it, America! It's a commie trick! The Ruskies aren't soft >on the destruction of innocent life, like we are. They wouldn't think twice >about sacrificing 250,000 of their own innocent students if one of their >evil political goals was on the line. But our government, which loves >its citizens, each and every one (except the trouble-makers), would have >its hands tied. > > Frank Silbermann GIVE ME A BREAK!!! I'm telling you that the U.S. does not have a monopoly on love for it's citizens, or justice, etc., etc. People are pretty much the same the world over. There is just no evidence to the contrary. In the USSR the police have more widspread powers of search & whatchyamacallit, etc. Often these are abused...or so I've heard. I suspect that the Soviet reputation to set human rights aside, or at least give them low priority is well deserved. For this I must condemn them. It is no way for an enlightened nation to conduct themselves! At the same time, I am not very pleased with the U.S. when the FBI, (CIA?, It's so hard to differentiate without a program), comes into Canada and arrests people just like they had a right to do so. This has been done repeatedly without any attempt at extradition proceedings, and without informing any Canadian authorities. This is also not the way an enlightened nation should conduct themselves. I could make references to the way blacks are treated in the U.S. if we were to talk about human rights, etc. But really, I don't want to repeat what has already been well posted on the net by others. I just want to say that believing that "God" is on your side; or that your enemy is "evil" and must be destroyed, etc. This is what I call national chauvenism, and it leads to wars. So when you have these thoughts, you should scare yourself! You scare me! Cheers, Fred Williams