Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!mhuxt!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: If the hat fits . . . Message-ID: <1490@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 00:30:43 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1490 Posted: Wed Aug 14 00:30:43 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Aug-85 00:52:15 EDT References: <3555@decwrl.UUCP> <628@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 26 >> WHEN I SAY 'ABORTION IS MURDER' I AM APPEALING TO >>THAT MORAL CONSENSUS WHICH ALL MEN POINT TO FOR THE BASIS OF 'LAWS' >>GEOGRAPHICAL AND SEEKING TO SHOW THAT IT FITS THERE IN THAT MORAL CONSENSUS >>BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. [ARNDT] > And I'm very glad you're doing so! Although people have a variety of > moral codes they live by, and although I would not want all of my morals > imposed on the next guy (and certainly not all of his imposed on me!), > there is such a moral consensus here in America, sort of an intersection, > a bare minimum of things considered right or wrong. [ROSENBLATT] You have a sick idea of the meaning of the phrase "bare minimum". Repression of non-standard lifestyles (sexual and otherwise)? Sanctification of an institution that puts itself above the law (the "nuclear family") where one member can abuse other members of the household without fear of reprisal? Insistence on other religious requirements in a country that's not supposed to be involved in religion? Some bare minimum! I only hope we can get to that real bare minimum (minimal morality) some day. > And killing for selfish gain is one of the things considered wrong. Thus, the burden is on you to prove it is indeed "killing", and selfishly (whatever that means) motivated. -- "Wait a minute. '*WE*' decided??? *MY* best interests????" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr