Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!ucbvax!daemon From: tcp-ip@ucbvax.ARPA Newsgroups: fa.tcp-ip Subject: Re: Interactive traffic punishment via MILNET? Message-ID: <9847@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 09:02:17 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9847 Posted: Mon Aug 12 09:02:17 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Aug-85 20:57:54 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 28 From: Charles HedrickTo complicate things, the host administrators often don't know that much about how their software works. When somebody posts a message on the net saying that some horrible thing is causing some inconceivable result, I have no way of knowing whether any of my hosts are contributing. I run TOPS-20, Unix, and Eunice TCP's, and I do not know the details of any of the TCP implementations. (With Eunice I do not even have access to the source.) If you sent me a patch and told me to install it, I would, but if you asked me whether my retransmission gizmo was frabulating the gateway matter-antimatter mix, I would have no way to respond. I'm not sure quite what you can do about this, but in some ways it may make your problem easier. What you probably need is one or two knowlegable sites for each OS. Then you could download fixes they develop to the rest of us. You will also have to find a stick big enough to get these fixes put into the next release from the vendor. Maybe DCA could arrange to have Norad point a few missles in the direction of . One problem that is making this more complex is that the natural experts on TOPS-20 TCP are ISI and BBN, but their code has diverged from the code supported by DEC and used by the less sophisticated sites such as ourselves. This is an area that seems particularly amenable to the use of stategic weaponry. Whether the missles should be pointed at Marlboro or Cambridge and California is a decision I would be happy to leave up to you. (There are some unpleasant politics hiding behind the surface here, which I am going to avoid talking about in public, at least at the moment.) -------