Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!inmet!nrh From: nrh@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Hunger and the Free Market Message-ID: <7800362@inmet.UUCP> Date: Sun, 28-Jul-85 23:01:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.7800362 Posted: Sun Jul 28 23:01:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Aug-85 00:15:11 EDT References: <527@gargoyle.UUCP> Lines: 25 Nf-ID: #R:gargoyle:-52700:inmet:7800362:000:1009 Nf-From: inmet!nrh Jul 28 23:01:00 1985 Before anyone talks further about whether socialism is a good basis for agriculture, I suggest you read some case histories. I suggest two books: "A Pattern for Failure" by Sven Rydenfelt (which JoSH has suggested before) and "Endless Enemies, The Making of an Unfriendly World" by Jonathan Kwitny I haven't finished "Endless Enemies" yet, but so far it's a hell of a read. The author was a reporter for the Wall Street Journal. I AM curious about carnes' outline -- what evidence do Lappe and Collins give for the following? > Lessons from societies eliminating hunger. The only countries > effectively overcoming hunger, according to Lappe and Collins, are > those incorporating aspects of "socialism," where people are trying > to create an economic system in which all have the opportunity to > participate in decisions about the use of resources and in which all > are assured of food security. Which countries did they use as examples for THIS little gem of wisdom? Over what time span?