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From: hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: marriage |= (necessarily) commitment
Message-ID: <689@ttidcc.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 16-Aug-85 17:49:20 EDT
Article-I.D.: ttidcc.689
Posted: Fri Aug 16 17:49:20 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 19-Aug-85 21:14:54 EDT
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In article <687@ttidcc.UUCP> regard@ttidcc.UUCP (Adrienne Regard) writes:
>Seems to me the question isn't whether or not SOs are married.  Seems to me
>SOs _who have sex_ are already begging the question on children, _whether
>they are married or not_. ...
>
>... the question of kids is linked to the question of sex, not the question
>of marriage, so it seems more sensible to consider the effect related to
>the real cause, not the spun-sugar assumption...

Sorry to interrupt your debate, but I think on this one point  you  haven't
gone  far enough.  Given the state of the modern world, the above reasoning
logically leads to the idea that the question of  kids  is  linked  to  the
question of _birth control_, rather than sex per se.

Given that modern birth control  methods  are  effective  enough  to  allow
recreational sex (i.e.: sex for the fun of it) and readily available enough
that anyone who wants to can use them, it follows that the  decision  _not_
to  use  them  is  the  crux  of the matter with regard to having children.
(Granted, the decision is often made by default).

I agree that, in much of our society, neither  marriage  nor  "SOship"  are
necessarily the governing factors in the decision to have children.  I only
wanted to point out that sex should be added to the list.

Carry on.

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