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From: fred@gymble.UUCP (Fred Blonder)
Newsgroups: net.bicycle
Subject: Re: car-sensors at traffic lights
Message-ID: <270@gymble.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 21-Aug-85 17:19:20 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 21 17:19:20 1985
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	> From: fred@varian.UUCP (Fred Klink)
	> Newsgroups: net.bicycle
	> Subject: Re: car-sensors at traffic lights
	> Message-ID: <358@varian.UUCP>
	>
	> Sorry ahead of time to any civil engineering types on the net
	> but at least around here I don't credit traffic "engineers"
	> with any conscious consideration of road use by peds, bikes or
	> others.  I've given up using the push to walk buttons because
	> (a) they don't do anything (my wife calls these the placebo
	> buttons), or (b) they result in a 5 second green light, just
	> about adequate for a world class sprinter to cross on, or (c)
	> they are placed in position which is almost inaccessible to a
	> cyclist without a complete dismount.

Around here (just outside of Washington D.C.) they most definitely DO
work, (usually), but as you point out, they're always mounted somewhere
you can't reach without going up a curb or something similarly
annoying.
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