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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: New Order Rumor
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Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 20:42:34 EDT
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> Pardon the offensive language that follows.
> 
> I heard that Jello Biafra of the Dead Kennedys wrote a song
> about New Order entitled "Nazi Punks Fuck Off and Die" or 
> some statement to that effect.  Has anyone else heard this?
> Has anyone heard the song (if it exists)?  What are the
> poltics of New Order?  I liked Joy Division very much but
> I must admit I haven't listened to New Order (yet).
> 
> So much music, so little time...
> 
> Denise
> djo@CHEM.UCSD.ARPA

To my knowledge "Nazi Punks Fuck Off" had nothing to do with New
Order.  (I'm curious as to where you may have heard that.)  It DID
have a lot to do with the new breed of rightwing hardcore types
showing up at DK concerts and other punk events.  It was an
attempt by Biafra to dissociate himself from that substantial
wing of the hardcore movement, and to build a base of support
against Nazi punks in general.  It didn't work.  The same punks
who thought that shock value was and is everything who got off
on wearing swastikas and other Nazi regalia now stand side by
side with the real rightwing scum, and it's hard as hell to tell
the difference.

Odd, the man who re-wrote "California Uber Alles" in pure Ministry of
Truth fashion to cover the fact that he got us worried about the
wrong California politico, speaking out against fascism.
-- 
Popular consensus says that reality is based on popular consensus.
						Rich Rosen   pyuxd!rlr