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From: linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Sunny's comments and opposition to assertive women
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Date: Fri, 16-Aug-85 12:35:55 EDT
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Posted: Fri Aug 16 12:35:55 1985
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Keywords: Not uncommon response to non-deferential women

I don't think that some of the inappropriately sarcastic and
rejecting responses to Sunny's observations are necessarily
due to Sunny's life experience.  There are some men who are
very hostile to any woman who presents herself in a self-assured,
competent and non-deferential manner.  Women are expected to
speak with different (less self confident and assertive)
speech patterns than men, and they are never supposed to
engage in head-on intellectual debate with a man.  I saw
a woman lose a possible position at a large company because
in a seminar she argued with a male speaker, saying "Frankly,
that is not the case" rather than saying: "Don't you think that ...
might be plausible?".  As Sunny experiences more and more of
womanhood I suspect that she will experience more and more
of this phenomena from some individuals.