Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!david@RAND-UNIX.ARPA From: david@RAND-UNIX.ARPA (David Shlapak) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: Times have changed at Apple Computer ... Message-ID: <770@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Fri, 16-Aug-85 14:45:06 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.770 Posted: Fri Aug 16 14:45:06 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Aug-85 01:33:50 EDT Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 25 Re: >Ps: Hacking: Learning through unauthorized access How 'bout: Hacking: Destruction through unlearned access... Why all this romanticism about "hacking?" The "old fashioned" hacker (the one who didn't try to f**k up other people's TRW files or break into Bank of America's computers, but merely wanted to figure out what made a machine tick and what it could be made to do) were typically (although by all means not exclusively) moderately immature, single-minded, boring individuals (in other words, yes folks, "nerds"); "new-type" hackers are just plain felons. I don't understand what's wrong with a school trying to protect its investments. Besides, if nobody tried to keep the kids out of the guts of the computer, they wouldn't be "hackers" by your definition, would they? Cheers! --- das