Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lasspvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!prls!amdimage!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!lasspvax!norman From: norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re: Re RAPE, etc.../ "provocative" dress Message-ID: <438@lasspvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Aug-85 18:59:59 EDT Article-I.D.: lasspvax.438 Posted: Tue Aug 6 18:59:59 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Aug-85 21:37:28 EDT References: <3014@hplabsb.UUCP> <568@hou2g.UUCP> <1656@mnetor.UUCP> Reply-To: norman@lasspvax.UUCP (Norman Ramsey) Organization: LASSP, Cornell University Lines: 32 In article <1656@mnetor.UUCP> sophie@mnetor.UUCP (Sophie Quigley) writes: >Women on the net, for the sake of humanity, when you read the kind of >bullshit underneath, try to think of all the *nice* *caring* men that >you know. They exist. I am very glad I know enough of them because if >my first contact with men had been from reading net.women, I think I >would have become a man-hater a long time ago. Geez! where do these >guys come from? Thank god for the real world outside of the net! > >Men on the net, how can you let jerks like all the ones in this >newsgroup speak for you like that? I am serious when I am saying that >the more I read the net, the more I believe that nothing much has >changed in the relationships between the sexes. Please, prove me >wrong! I'll speak for myself at least, saying that in some sense I feel powerless to affect what's going on. I don't know what to do about sexism in my own community, let alone on the net. One thing I have noticed (being new here) is that there is a tremendous amount of hate on the net. I don't think net.women is special in this regard (try reading net.philosophy sometime; it's the worst I've seen). One guy pinted ot a week or so ago that it's hard to get answers to a request for information, but just say something wrong and fifty people will flame you. I have a lot of ideas why there sould be so much immaturity and hatred on the net, but net.women doesn't seem the right place to discuss them. -- Norman Ramsey ARPA: norman@lasspvax -- or -- norman%lasspvax@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu UUCP: {ihnp4,allegra,...}!cornell!lasspvax!norman BITNET: (in desperation only) ZSYJARTJ at CORNELLA Never eat anything with a shelf life of more than ten years