Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site maynard.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!wjh12!maynard!campbell From: campbell@maynard.UUCP (Larry Campbell) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: Re: Re: Limiting logons to licensed number: how? Message-ID: <136@maynard.UUCP> Date: Fri, 9-Aug-85 11:39:10 EDT Article-I.D.: maynard.136 Posted: Fri Aug 9 11:39:10 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Aug-85 07:30:05 EDT References: <1029@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <112@vcvax1.UUCP> <169@telesoft.UUCP> <442@petrus.UUCP> <274@kitty.UUCP> Organization: The Boston Software Works Inc., Maynard, MA Lines: 36 > > The competition with MS-DOS is also the reason for the "unbundling" of UNIX > > into a basic part plus additional packages. If you look at the way IBM PC > > sales work, the base operating system is essentially zip (8 programs?!) and > > the user/owner buys additional packages (spreadsheet, dbms, ...) to do > > what she wants. AT&T can't afford to give away a whole set of programs... > > But it's not selling. It still costs $1000 to get UNIX for your PC. MS-DOS > comes with the machine. Be realistic. With MS-DOS you get a wimpy filesystem, no multitasking, and essentially no utilities. Forget about multitasking, mountable file systems, etc., let's just see what you'd have to add to MS-DOS to make it even close to a typical PC Unix. I'm using very rough rule-of-thumb prices based on retail prices for comparable products: C compiler $ 300 lint 500 as 100 vi, ex, ed 600 plot, graph, spline 200 make 100 adb 300 nroff, tbl, neqn 500 spell 100 TOTAL $2600 All of the utilities I've listed (and lots more) come with VENIX/86, which sells for $800. I think it's a bargain. (Note that I didn't even list all the stuff you just can't get for MS-DOS: awk, bc, dc, sh, csh, uucp, m4, tar, time, lex, yacc...) > > Rich Hammond (Bellcore,not part of AT&T) ihnp4|ucbvax !bellcore!hammond > > Peter da Silva, UNIX fan. Larry Campbell, UNIX and VENIX fan.