Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decvax!decwrl!sun!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Ms. Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Imagine a non-sexist society...(can you? really?) Message-ID: <2687@sun.uucp> Date: Wed, 21-Aug-85 22:32:54 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.2687 Posted: Wed Aug 21 22:32:54 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 24-Aug-85 19:00:03 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 105 ifiable FACT, (though I can't give you a reference other than my shrink, who IS an expert in the field of trans-gender psychology, Dr. Lin Fraser (415)922-9240), and that is, that there are NO(none, zero) cases of a psychologist EVER successfully changing a person's gender identity (something which forms in the child at the age of 1.5 to 2 years), though there are THREE cases of successful transsexual surgery each DAY in the U.S.A. What this goes to say, is, that humans are so inhumane in their treatment of other humans that their intolerance of a mismatch between assigned role and genitals is sufficiently strong that for those of us who find this conflict, we have to change our bodies to match what society says our genitals*must* be to match our behavior. And, as I have pointed out before, the association between behavior and sex is dependent upon the context of WHICH society we're observing. In other words, my problems are entirely a result of your intolerance. That's what you really don't want to hear. That's why you protest me so much. Because my mere existance makes you see your own ugliness. Like, gee, folks, I'm really truly sorry I was born with male genitals. I can't help it, you see, 'cause that's the way mom made me. And she also made me with genes which make me act more "like a woman" than"like a man". Sure, mom and dad tried real hard (can you say,"psychological trauma"?) to make me "act like a man". But you see, that's just not me. So I guess I'll just have to get my sex changed in order to get any peace, quiet, tolerance, happiness from y'all. And this in the most tolerant, benevolent, wonderful, freedom for all, persuit of happiness, from sea to polluted sea, over amber waves of cancerous insecticide polluted grain, with liberty and due process for all, country in the world. Seig Heil Jawohl, I shall conform. Care to contribute as many dollars for my surgery as you do hatred and contempt for my not getting it? Oh, hey, I KNOW I'm not talking about all us enlightened hackers, it's only those other people without USENET addresses who discriminate against people based on their differences in race, religion, or gender. Sunny p.s. (as I got in some private mail.... YES, I am bitter) wouldn't you be if your mere existance was intolerable to society at large? I'm sorry, but the dozens of supporting letters from enlightened netters I've received in my /usr/spool/mail/sunny file, and the dozens of friends I've found via the net just don't make up for the hassles I get from everyone else... being ignored, or jeered at, laughed at. It's so much easier to laugh at me, than it is to seriously look at who I am and why I am. I am how I am because Goddess saw fit to make me that way (in her image). If I'm good enough for her, why am I so intolerable to you? Oh, that's right, your intolerance was molded in her image too, and since you're in the majority against me, I guess I'd better change to conform to your ideals, your roles. Goddess must have made a mistake making me. Or is this just karmic punishment for having been too much of a dominant male asshole in a past life? Probably. They say that what you put out comes back threefold unto you. don't mind me, I'm just living a nightmare... pretty soon I'll wake up now... won't I? (yes, I will... and I'll finally be off the net, out of the computer industry, and persuing psychic healing as my new profession) oh, hey, there goes my credibility again... everyone knows psychic phenomena only exist in the minds of some people. -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)