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From: pamp@bcsaic.UUCP (pam pincha)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Stand firm on your position.
Message-ID: <219@bcsaic.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 19-Aug-85 15:18:47 EDT
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Posted: Mon Aug 19 15:18:47 1985
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Summary: 

In article <389@oliven.UUCP> barb@oliven.UUCP (Barbara Jernigan) writes:
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> Therefore, my position is that Abortions SHOULD remain legal;
>but, to have one, the individual(s) involved must go through appropriate
>COUNSELLING.

Here.Here! That's what it was supposed to be in the first place!

>... Outlawing abortions MIGHT prevent SOME persons from using that
>route, but I fear more HARM than good will be done by it -- for I shudder to 
>think of the losses from ILLEGAL abortions.  If BOTH woman and fetus die in an
>illegal abortion, Pro-Lifers, is Justice served? 

It didn't before, it won't now!
 
>	The POINT of legalized abortion is Safety for the woman.  It is 
>performed in a hospital/clinic/doctor's-office by a Doctor. 

Exactly!This again was what was fought for a few years ago. THis is
what we women wanted.  Especially in cases where there was need,
but no money.

> The POINT of
>legalized abortion -- at least in my admittedly fallible understanding -- 
>is NOT specifically birth control.  Indeed, I would support legislation
>restricting subsequent abortions.  The first is nearly understandable -- 
>although often avoidable -- but to chose abortion again and again? 

This is the point where most Pro-lifers lose any support I might
have considered.  I do not understand why they not only want to
do away with abortion , but birth control methods as well?!!  I don't
believe that banning birth control methods are going to lead us back
non-sexual, pure lives. Please....There has been no time in history
when this has ever been true! It's only been in the last century
or so that sexuality has been so supressed!
In short I agree, ABORTION SHOULD BE A LAST RESORT ONLY -- after
that some precautions should be taken!

>.... This is also why I support pre- and post-abortion counselling -- to 
>prevent, where possible, the abortion -- and certainly prevent any repeats.  

Amen!

>	In conclusion:  I believe Abortion should remain legalized, and will
>fight in the voters' booths to defend it. I believe, however, that 'permission'
>to have an abortion should also hinge on appropriate counselling, with the hope
>that the individual(s) will weigh all the options before deciding...
>ABORTION SHOULD NEVER EVER become an easy form of birth control
>-- there are OTHER reliable methods....

Hurrah for Barb! Finally someone whose making a bit of sense in this
discussion. With this point I not only agree, but am willing to let
this group know about it. (note: prior to this I wouldn't have.)
				Thanks Barb!
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					Pamela M. Pincha-Wagener
					(!bcsaic!pamp)
These are my views,I worked hard for them, Boeing can't have them!
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