Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: If the hat fits . . . Message-ID: <1467@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 08:28:09 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1467 Posted: Mon Aug 12 08:28:09 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 06:48:44 EDT References: <3555@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 21 > WHEN I SAY 'ABORTION IS MURDER' I AM APPEALING TO > THAT MORAL CONSENSUS WHICH ALL MEN POINT TO FOR THE BASIS OF 'LAWS' > GEOGRAPHICAL AND SEEKING TO SHOW THAT IT FITS THERE IN THAT MORAL CONSENSUS > BECAUSE IT MAKES SENSE. [Kenny Arndt] Well, that says it all. Morality by consensus. That's what I always said Arndt's game was. But not even that by a long shot. No, morality by PAST consensus, by prehistoric people in pre-rational times. How to change that morality? Well, in Ken's book it would require an eleven-tenths majority to "pass" a change in the rigid moral code. Ever stop to think about what rights a society might have to limit its people's rights? I didn't think so. Makes sense? Hardly. Only if you accept the past moral code at its word. Sure, a lot of sheep do just that. Lucky for humankind, with each generation there are fewer sheep. (That may be why the Puerile Pejority is on the march with their other rightwing colleagues: if they don't work fast, the whole herd of sheep will be gone, and their flock will disintegrate. Get that darned secular humanism, whatever it is, out of the dang schools!) -- "Do I just cut 'em up like regular chickens?" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr