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From: bob@nbires.UUCP (Bob Bruck)
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Subject: Re: Times have changed ... (Hackers, really)
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Date: Tue, 20-Aug-85 12:04:58 EDT
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> Eliot Lear wrote:
> Wrong.
> 
> A TRUE hacker (not to be confused with the press' definition) is someone that
> knows how to find the "In"s and "Out"s of software or systems...

Still wrong.  The term "hacker" has been around for generations.  My grand-
father used it to mean "someone who builds furniture with a hatchet".  In the
early days of computers, "hatchets" were the only tools we had to work with,
and being dubbed a "hacker" was a sign of respect - it was inappropriate to
call yourself a hacker, it was an honor placed on you by others.

Well today, even though there are better "tools" available for the craftsmen
to use (read "software engineering"), there are still those that prefer to
use hatchets.  They don't neccessarily know 'the "In"s and "Out"s of software
or systems' better... I just think of them as "back to nature" types.

                                      Bob Bruck
                                      NBI Inc.  Boulder, Co.
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