Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!csd2!martillo From: martillo@csd2.UUCP (Joachim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Dvar Torah Project returns Message-ID: <3780065@csd2.UUCP> Date: Thu, 8-Aug-85 10:48:00 EDT Article-I.D.: csd2.3780065 Posted: Thu Aug 8 10:48:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Aug-85 06:12:12 EDT References: <148@erc3ba.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 6 Just an observation on martyrdom and witness. Martyros in Greek is a literal translation of `ed meaning witness. I do not offhand believe biblical Hebrew `ed has the same connotation as modern English martyr. Interestingly enough, the `Arabic shahid is the word for witness and means martyr somewhat but of course the death in this case occurs while battling to subjugate the infidel.