Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxt.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!ihnp1!ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j From: js2j@mhuxt.UUCP (sonntag) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Rape - Another Solution Message-ID: <1084@mhuxt.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Aug-85 12:41:03 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxt.1084 Posted: Wed Aug 14 12:41:03 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Aug-85 15:26:01 EDT References: <2402@amdcad.UUCP> <209@bcsaic.UUCP> <1140@ihuxn.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 24 > > I find it interesting that violence does seem to be an important > > part of our civilization. Not to get back into discussions of > > sociobiology again, but perhaps "violence" is an integral part > > of human character. I know of no solid proof for or against, > > although there's much flimsy evidence (some primitive cultures > > seem to be nonviolent, but they generally are found in hostile > > environments - violence comes from outside rather than inside)... > > > > stan shebs > Ah yes, the "savage ape". Popular myth. Perhaps more probable, > though, is the notion that our aggressiveness is entirely > cultural, an ironic figment of our becoming "civilized". Hunter- > gatherers can always pack up and move on (and they do, or did), > but once you put down roots, you have your territory, a stake worth > fighting for. Ah yes, the "noble savage". A once-popular myth. Many of the tribes of american indians were hunter gatherers. Most of these were constantly at war with each other. Ironically, many of the most peaceful of the indian tribes were those which had developed agriculture. -- Jeff Sonntag ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j "Like a newuser (HACK!), flamed for the very first time..."