Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rochester.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!sher From: sher@rochester.UUCP (David Sher) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion Subject: Re: Pfui Message-ID: <10987@rochester.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Aug-85 05:27:04 EDT Article-I.D.: rocheste.10987 Posted: Sun Aug 11 05:27:04 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Aug-85 03:11:13 EDT References: <1276@pyuxd.UUCP> <2145@pucc-h> <1313@pyuxd.UUCP> <434@spar.UUCP> <1388@pyuxd.UUCP> <626@psivax.UUCP> Reply-To: sher@rochester.UUCP (David Sher) Organization: U. of Rochester, CS Dept. Lines: 28 Xref: linus net.philosophy:1992 net.religion:6958 >In article <1388@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) writes: >>Can you give an example from your personal experience of something you >>didn't like that you chose to like. Try it. Take something you absolutely >>despise, and decide to like it. Remember, no conditioning to change your >>behavior toward that thing will be allowed. After all, you can do it >>without "new experiences"... I believe a challenge of this sort was aimed at me by the redoubtable Rich Rosen. So I choose to respond! I have dredged up from memory an incident where I chose to change my desires. It was about 4 or 5 years back when I was begining to become adequate at judo. My sensei (coach sort of) had decided that I was overweight and told me to diet. I chose as the simplest route to stop desiring any deserts and any bread outside of sandwiches. I admit that it took about two days before my desires left me entirely. In this period I naturally did not partake of either free standing bread or deserts (though both were offered to me free of charge due to the benificence of the Yale dining halls) but this is natural since I had already lost most of my desire for them. After about a month of this I broke my collar bone and decided I need any available form of pleasure to deal with this depressing situation. Fulfilling a desire is an easy way to cheer oneself so I decided to once again desire free standing bread and deserts. It again took about two days. -David Sher sher@rochester seismo!rochester!sher Ps: I will be at a conference about a week so if you would like me to see your replies please send them as well as posting, otherwise they might expire before I get to them.