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From: ray@utcsri.UUCP (Raymond Allen)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: *est-holes*
Message-ID: <1339@utcsri.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 21-Aug-85 13:47:38 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 21 13:47:38 1985
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Reply-To: ray@utcsri.UUCP (Raymond Allen)
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Summary: 

In article <914@oddjob.UUCP> matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) writes:
>Hmm... has anyone considered comparing the EST-like groups to 
>the Hare-Krishna-like groups?  There seem to be some points of
>similarity.

	In his book "MOONWEBS" Josh Freed makes exactly this comparison.
Essentially, the book documents the experiences that he and a group of friends
had while trying to rescue a mutual friend from the clutches of the
Unification Church (a.k.a. The Moonies).  He then goes on to try to
explain (in lay terms) the psychological process by which the Moonies
and other groups massage people's minds into a "suitable" form.
Its REALLY scary when you realize that *anyone* is susceptable to such
mind control.  (This ain't no Count Floyd guff either).  Freed makes the
point quite clearly that preparadness will help you very little.  The biggest
mistake you can make is thinking that you are "strong" enough to "resist"
their techniques.

	If there is interest I can post some quotes from the book.  I
guess that there is a reasonable question as to whether this is actually
relevant to net.singles so if anyone can suggest another group I'll
put it there.

				Ray Allen
				utcsri!ray

P.S.  I know that of which I speak.  I recently "lost" my sister to the Church
      of Scientology.