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From: linda@amdcad.UUCP (Linda Seltzer)
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Subject: Re: PMS, transexuals, and testosterone poisoning
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Date: Tue, 13-Aug-85 19:46:30 EDT
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Summary: I commend Sunny's honesty. We all have a "male" and "female" side.

> 
> Sometimes, I just can't believe the hostility and rejection of me, both on a
> human level, and as a valid data point.  

I feel that several people in this newsgroup have been too hostile and
rude toward's Sunny.  I admire her honesty, in a world where there are
so many con artists and manipulators running around.



> Otherwise, you can only speak of what it
> is like to be male, or to be female.

I'm not sure that I agree with this.  The Jungian theory of psychoanalysis
maintains that there is a male and female side of each person.  The
male side of a woman, and vice versa, will often manifest themselves
as characters in a person's dreams.  This means that not all of the
personality is based on hormones and chemical changes, but upon
spirituality and the collective unconscious as well.  There are some
people who find Jung's ideas to be mystical and religious, and this
is to some extent too.  But I feel that through dream analysis,
reading of a great deal of literature, and empathy, it is possible
for a person to begin to understand some of the feelings of the
opposite sex.  From discussions with men who are honest, I have
learned a great deal about men's feelings that I did not previously
understand.  So while Sunny's experience should be listened too,
I think that all of us have some degree of understanding of both
male-ness and female-ness.

				Linda Seltzer

> 
> Just keep on rejecting me.  Just keep on rejecting what I've said about the
> effects of hormones.  Just keep on saying to the world:
> Don't bother me with the facts, My mind is made up.
> I will go a way. I will shut up.  Because it is futile to cast pearls of
> wisdom before swine.
> 
> 				Sunny
> -- 
> {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Ms. Sunny Kirsten)