Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site daab.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!enea!daab!lasse From: lasse@daab.UUCP (Lars Hammarstrand) Newsgroups: net.unix Subject: Re: password aging Message-ID: <143@daab.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 16:13:56 EDT Article-I.D.: daab.143 Posted: Mon Aug 5 16:13:56 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Aug-85 22:29:51 EDT References: <527@dicomed.UUCP> <757@utcs.UUCP> <194@drivax.UUCP> Reply-To: lasse@unix.UUCP (Lars Hammarstrand) Distribution: net.unix Organization: Datorisering AB, Stockholm, Sweden Lines: 40 In article <194@drivax.UUCP> alan@drivax.UUCP (Alan Fargusson) writes: >> In article <527@dicomed.UUCP> salmi@dicomed.UUCP (John Salmi) writes: >> >I understand that SysV offers a password aging scheme. Does 4.x BSD support >> >anything similar? If no, has anyone done a hack to allow password aging? > >I seem to have missed the original article, but I would like to say that >we have been using the password aging stuff here for over a year, and I >think it is real poor. Bad things happen when the the date is wrong when >the system comes up, which is real likely since System V uses the time >of day clock in a VAX in a different way then VMS, and the DEC diagnostics >run under VMS. Real life senario: DEC comes in and runs diagnostics, sets >date under VMS, reboots UNIX date becomes next December, passwords age, all >the news expiers, I come in and fix the date, passwords age again (sounds like >a bug, why should they age in reverse?). > >Also the new restrictions on what can be used for a password are ridiculous. >They prevent me from using passwords that are hard for other people to type >but are easy for me to type. Everyone that I know just puts a number on >the front of the password that they want anyway, which defeats the restrictions. >-- > >Alan Fargusson. > >{ ihnp4, amdahl, mot }!drivax!alan I'm sad to here that you have problems with your VAX because we have been using the passwd aging system (UniPlus+ UNIX System V.2 on a Cromemco) for about 6 months now, and there have been no problems at all exept when you don't set the rigth date when you are in "Singel user mode" starting "Multi user mode" and then you have to change passwd before you can login to your system. After that, of cource, you must go down to "Singel User mode" to correct the date (It's bad practice to change it in "Multi user mode" because of the accounting system). (But you can never change your passwd for root to often) My name: Lars Hammarstrand. My company: Datorisering AB, SWEDEN. UUCP: {seismo,decvax,philabs}!mcvax,ukc,unido!enea!daab!lasse ARPA: decvax!mcvax!enea!daab!lasse@berkley.arpa