Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!ray From: ray@utcsri.UUCP (Raymond Allen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: *est-holes* Message-ID: <1339@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Aug-85 13:47:38 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsri.1339 Posted: Wed Aug 21 13:47:38 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Aug-85 23:30:30 EDT References: <3787@cornell.UUCP> <914@oddjob.UUCP> Reply-To: ray@utcsri.UUCP (Raymond Allen) Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 27 Summary: In article <914@oddjob.UUCP> matt@oddjob.UUCP (Matt Crawford) writes: >Hmm... has anyone considered comparing the EST-like groups to >the Hare-Krishna-like groups? There seem to be some points of >similarity. In his book "MOONWEBS" Josh Freed makes exactly this comparison. Essentially, the book documents the experiences that he and a group of friends had while trying to rescue a mutual friend from the clutches of the Unification Church (a.k.a. The Moonies). He then goes on to try to explain (in lay terms) the psychological process by which the Moonies and other groups massage people's minds into a "suitable" form. Its REALLY scary when you realize that *anyone* is susceptable to such mind control. (This ain't no Count Floyd guff either). Freed makes the point quite clearly that preparadness will help you very little. The biggest mistake you can make is thinking that you are "strong" enough to "resist" their techniques. If there is interest I can post some quotes from the book. I guess that there is a reasonable question as to whether this is actually relevant to net.singles so if anyone can suggest another group I'll put it there. Ray Allen utcsri!ray P.S. I know that of which I speak. I recently "lost" my sister to the Church of Scientology.