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From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc)
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Subject: Re: White Holes?
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Date: Sat, 17-Aug-85 01:10:54 EDT
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> possible for time to reorient itself by the same mechanism that causes
> black holes inside the black holes. This would explain the cosmic jets
> we have observed in the distant regions of the universe.
> 						John Williams

Interesting!

> My intuition tells me that the universe is a continuous function.

Two things tell us that the universe isn't continuous.  First, the "big bang",
and second, the constant "h bar" or even the fact that particles are not 
points. 

Time can more understandably be viewed as as "unfolding" of sequential infor-
mation arrays like the distinct frames of a moving picture.  The framing rate 
for a particle like a neutron would be ~(m*c^2)/() where "m" is the 
mass of a neutron, "c" the speed of light, and "h" Planck's constant.  The 
framing rate decreases with the increase in effective mass of a neutron due 
to its general and special relativity effects (its position in a dense 
gravitational field or in rapid motion "velocity space").  

If space were continuous then an infinite number of points would exist along 
a path an "inch" long.   Scanning this space with a "point" test particle 
would not discover any "spatial holes" or gaps where "points" aren't defined 
(exit).  In fact all of the information known to man (and the angels) could 
be put into a binary code and stored in such a space.  Our space is "grainy" 
and there are gaps and spaces, and nature has a special trick to make it 
"look" continuous.  Mathematically it is a "delta function" and in reality 
it is "the particle"   

The trick is also used by physicists to smooth out grainy data on a film 
strip.  It is simply to make the width of the film scanning aperture or 
"slit width" wide enough so that there is always a few grains within view.  
Making the aperture even wider reduces the fluctuations and makes the output 
even smoother and perhaps less exact.  

> My intuition tells me that the universe is a continuous function.
> This would not necessitate a creator, where would a creator come from?
> A mathematical function simply exists.
> 						John Williams

Energy is more or less proportional to the square of "grain density" or
"information density".  That means if we pack information into a smaller
space, the energy density goes up and the time  or framing rate goes down.
That also implies that as the framing rate decreases each frame has more
"persistence"

There is obviously information in our 3 space and that and the operators 
that "process" it are together what constitute entities we observe as par-
ticles.  Information could also exist in two space and 1 space, independent-
ly of whether or not three space exists.  Of course, the "physics" of those 
spaces would be different than for three space".  The idea is that informa
tion could flow from a dense higher energy density form to a lower density 
form.  Then it could flow from 1 space to two and from two to three.  In 
the latter transition it would appear to create a big bang and condense 
into the preferred form of three space, namely, matter. Also as "existence" 
(or information) perculates down from one to two dimensions, time 
activates and then in thee dimensions passes at a faster rate or "speeds up" 

Since lines can cross in two space and in three space, points exit and areas 
(surfaces)/ volumes can be delineated.  That means that a multiplicity of 
objects can exist in those two spaces.  But in one space there can only be 
one object because location is absent.  One can not cross two lines to 
produce a point, without moving out of that space.  If the grain density is 
infinite there, then existence would be infinitely persistent and time would 
not pass.  There would be only one direction. So the concept of space and 
time would be contradictory as we know it. Words like eternal and omni-
presence can also be used to describe such a state. True that physics can 
not understand the creation of the universe YET, it may well do so in the 
future.  The idea that time is quantized seen as the continuous discreet 
fading and replacement of information "frames" means that in a sense the
process of creation is still going on. This would occur for each and every 
particle in the universe.  Are we just an ensemble of information, a sort of
rapidly exchanging three dimensional arrays of matter generated by billions 
of little information processors called particle.? If thats true then we 
too are "compound" entities which display and process information.

As to where to find the CREATOR, I would vote for an infinitely dense 
and continuous independently existing one dimensional space as the place 
for the CREATOR to exist.  This is perhaps a little net.religion, net.-
cosmology, and net.metaphysics; but, what the hell.   Oh "hell" by the
way is ..  .         ..            .       maybe some other time.  :-)

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