Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site hpfcrs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hpfcdc!hpfcla!lief From: lief@hpfcla.UUCP Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <14600040@hpfcrs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 17:18:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfcrs.14600040 Posted: Mon Aug 12 17:18:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 25-Aug-85 05:04:09 EDT References: <14600027@hpfcrs.UUCP> Organization: 12 Aug 85 15:18:00 MDT Lines: 29 >> > Sarima (Stanley Friesen) >> >Hmmm, these seem to be mostly(or exclusively) highly partisan >> >creationist publications, I would like to see this stuff confirmed in >> >proper refereed journals! I place about as much faith in these finds >> >as I do in the Paluxy River "human footprints" - exactly none! >> >(Actually, the first reference sounds like it is even worse than >> >a creationist publication - a Von-Daenken-esque type pseudo-science >> >book) >> (Lief Sorensen) >> I am sometimes amazed at folks who claim to be scientific and open minded. > (Mike Huybenz) >I beg your pardon, but the subject of these publications is exactly what we >are debating here. To assume they are true or correct is a prime case of >begging the question. Skepticism and demands for confirmation are entirely >appropriate. (And scientific and open-minded. Check a dictionary, and you >will see that skepticism and open-mindedness are not incompatible. Nor do >either of them rule out judgement of value.) Actually, all the data about Noah's ark (arial photo's and some peasant's sightings, including a sliver of wood) really is severely questionable. Even Morris in his book "The Genesis Flood" passes up this data as doubtful. I too am skeptical about such data. However, the thing I don't like is the attitude taken that "if it's creationist, it must be unscientific and ridiculous -- no need to even check it out!" And besides, I like to pick on Stanley Friesen. (He's got a good last name!) Lief Sorensen HP Fort Collins, CO Uucp ...!hpfcla!lief