Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/28/84; site lll-crg.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!lll-crg!bandy From: bandy@lll-crg.ARPA (Andrew Scott Beals) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: wants vs needs, luxury vs necessity Message-ID: <774@lll-crg.ARPA> Date: Thu, 8-Aug-85 13:04:57 EDT Article-I.D.: lll-crg.774 Posted: Thu Aug 8 13:04:57 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 11-Aug-85 05:45:13 EDT References: <735@lll-crg.ARPA> <1742@reed.UUCP> <765@lll-crg.ARPA> <642@ttidcc.UUCP> Reply-To: bandy@lll-crg.UUCP (Andrew Scott Beals) Distribution: net Organization: Lawrence Livermore Labs, CRG group Lines: 40 Keywords: raw nerves, personal abuse Summary: (rule 1) M-x Insert Authority Figure$ is always right. You know what? Sometimes I just plain forget that if it's written down in a book or if somebody does research about it then it's right! Golly gee Batman, I guess we don't need to do the null experiment with the Skinner Box after all! (Someone did recently do the experiment and his results were the same as when the pigeons were rewarded - they like to peck) There is also a music professor at MIT who claims that properly written and played music (classical (but of course)) has a physiological effect on an organism. (let's say Beethoven's 9th conducted by Furtwangler) Or even on a rock. ----------------------------------------------- In a randomly numbered article, hollombe@ttidcc.UUCP (The Polymath) writes: >>[only people with warped minds need love and acceptance (they're unhappy when >> they don't get it, so their minds must be warped, 'cause ya always can't >> get what you want (paraphrased by me))] > >Some people have warped their minds to convince themselves they don't need >the love and acceptance they think they can't get. Some hermits fall into >this category as do many psychiatric patients. Again, see Harlow, et. al. [so I changed what I said before to be what I really wanted to say, so shoot me, so complain to my sa, so protest at my lab tomorrow (9aug)...] Do you think it's the Right Thing for people to be unhappy when they don't get this "needed" love and acceptance? Or to be unhappy when they can't (or don't) get the physical affection they want? By calling this a Need, you have the situation where people think they can demand that they get their "quota", thereby placing unnecessary pressures on others. Also, because they Know it is a Need, they feel justified at getting upset/angry with others (or themselves) because they don't do "their part" at helping to fill this Need. -- andy beals, bandy@lll-crg.arpa, {seismo,sun,gymble,mordor,dual}!lll-crg!bandy jet set ski shop quasi silver porsche jacket bleached blonde forty dollar foster grand capped teeth two inch eyelash pseudo gamma delta doll adidas in heat...