Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hplabs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!gatech!hplabs!rodrique From: rodrique@hplabs.UUCP (Mike Rodriquez) Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group Subject: Re: Newsgroup creations and deletions Message-ID: <2128@hplabs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 13:27:02 EDT Article-I.D.: hplabs.2128 Posted: Mon Aug 12 13:27:02 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Aug-85 01:24:01 EDT References: <725@vortex.UUCP> <1352@cbosgd.UUCP> <1438@islenet.UUCP> <3091@nsc.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA Lines: 33 Xref: linus net.news:3004 net.news.group:2783 > tail off getting uucp to work right for the 4.3 release. You don't like the > way we've been trying to coordinate the network? Fine. We quit. > > Just give us the word -- Spaf will send all of the mod.announce.newuser > stuff to you, Mark will transfer moderatorship of mod.announce to your > site, Rick will ship you all of the stuff so you can finish up 2.10.3, I'll > pass along my mailing list of list. We can give you the job of head > coordinator for the moderators, forward all of the network related mail for > you to answer, and let you coordinate the mapping project with Usenix and > all of the involved sites. That should only take you an hour or so a week, > leaving you a LOT of time to make sure you NEVER make a mistake in any > decision you have to make as head guru on the network. Remember, you won't > get paid for any of this, and any time you stick your head above water, > someone will throw a rotten vegetable at it. You don't like what we're > trying to do? Then do it better. We'd LOVE to find a better way, and > someone more competent than the rest of us to show us how. GLOS knows, > we've tried everything we could and bent over backward to be careful not to > muck things up, but obviously we aren't good enough. You seem to have the > answers -- don't yell at us, simply show us. > > Just let me know, and I'll pass you all my stuff and happily unsubscribe to > net.news.all... > chuq Chuq, Rough morning huh? It obvious (at least to some of us) how much work is involved in keeping the net running in a somewhat reasonable fashion. However, all Rich (and others) are complaining about is that certain groups were created and other groups had were rmgroup'ed without the usual discussions. No one is forced to do what they do to support the net; complaints such as yours above are *not* the way to win respect for what you do. Mike Rodriquez HPlabs