Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site riccb.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!harpo!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!riccb!lance From: lance@riccb.UUCP (Lance R. Ogasawara ) Newsgroups: net.chess Subject: Re: Re: Why can't a machine be World's Checkers Champ? Message-ID: <475@riccb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 12-Aug-85 09:35:58 EDT Article-I.D.: riccb.475 Posted: Mon Aug 12 09:35:58 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 15-Aug-85 21:22:51 EDT References: <474@oakhill.UUCP> <10913@rochester.UUCP> Organization: Rockwell Telecommunications, Downers Grove,Il. Lines: 16 > I'm almost sure that a few years ago I read that man could no longer beat > a checker program. And the only way even the world champ could win a game > was if the computer always moved second. If the computer was aloud to move > first then it could ALWAYS win. I'm talking main frame well done checker > programs here, not a radio shack toy. > This may clear up why a machine cannot be World's Checker Champ. It could neverbe dethroned and thus would eliminate the world championship as an event. I > think that checker programs for this reason may not be aloud to play tournament > checkers. The USCF has considered outlawing chess programs before they have > a chance to be a world champ, but so far they are permited to enter most > tournaments. Usually at the discretion of the tournament director. YOUR MESSAGE I'm not 100% certain, but I always thought that moving second was an *advantage* in checkers because the first player tends to run out of moves.