Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site luke.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!oliveb!bene!luke!steven From: steven@luke.UUCP (Steven List) Newsgroups: net.women,net.flame Subject: Re: Women/men and the consumption of toilet paper Message-ID: <241@luke.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Jun-85 18:00:33 EDT Article-I.D.: luke.241 Posted: Wed Jun 19 18:00:33 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Jun-85 01:37:12 EDT References: <464@ttidcc.UUCP> <465@gitpyr.UUCP> <332@ihlpa.UUCP> <645@ihlpg.UUCP> Reply-To: steven@luke.UUCP (Steven List) Organization: Uncle Bene's Farm Lines: 49 Xref: watmath net.women:6116 net.flame:10832 Summary: In article <645@ihlpg.UUCP> sed408@ihlpg.UUCP (s. dugan) writes: >> > Women say they want men who are sensitive. >> > -- >> > Roy J. Mongiovi. Office of Computing Services. User Services. [jeanette] >> I, for myself only, will be only to willing to do just that as soon >> as I see some evidence of reciprocation. [sarah] >I've been reading comments like this for quite a while. When will we, as >members of the human race, (not just MEN or WOMEN) realize that consideration >and understanding starts with oneself. If I sit here and wait for someone to >be considerate of my feelings, I'll have a LOOOOONG wait! On the other hand, >if I start by being as considerate and sensitive as I possibly can, I find >that I tend to breed consideration in others. The old adage "You catch more >flies with honey than you do with vinegar" really holds true. How about "What goes around comes around"? Or The Golden Rule? Anybody ever wonder why there are so MANY adages dealing with interpersonal relationships? Can you survive without them? [jeanette] >> I know many very sensitive men but even they fall down when it comes to >> copong with the understanding of what women face every time they go out >> the door. *(and sometimes even if they dont)* >> >> jeanette l. zobjeck >> ihnp4!ihlpa!zubbie [sarah] >I really doubt that rape is something any man can truly understand. I also >think you're exagerating the threat of rape a great deal. I'm sorry you feel >you have to face that threat "every time [you] go out the door." I don't. >Maybe it has something to do with where I live. Maybe I'm wrong, but my impression was not that jeanette was concerned with rape. Rather the phrase "every time they go out the door" seemed to be meant to compare the experience women in our culture/society as opposed to men. At least I hope she wasn't referring to rape. I do wonder why you drew the inference that you did? I'm so confused at this point after reading (and to a small extent parcipating in) the exchanges between you two and good ol' SRT that I don't know what to think or say. BTW where DO you live? -- *** * Steven List @ Benetics Corporation, Mt. View, CA * {cdp,greipa,idi,oliveb,sun,tolerant}!bene!luke!steven ***