Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihnet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad From: eklhad@ihnet.UUCP (K. A. Dahlke) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Assumed evil in non-christians and assumed good in christians Message-ID: <247@ihnet.UUCP> Date: Fri, 5-Jul-85 11:46:30 EDT Article-I.D.: ihnet.247 Posted: Fri Jul 5 11:46:30 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Jul-85 10:20:44 EDT References: <20@ssc-vax.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 76 <> > Lowell Savage > Some time ago (I don't always have time to do this sort of thing), I > posted an article responding to "AP bias..." (I don't recall the title). > someone was complaining that the press was biased against > Christians and why not, since a poll showed that 75% of the members of > the press were non-christian. I responded by rhetorically wondering if > perhaps this article, or the facts it pointed to, were related to an > attitude among christians that they shouldn't (morally) "dirty" them- > selves in "certain" occupations (including the press). I then proceeded > to state my reasoning for Christians to get involved in those which > basically boiled down to 1) improving the state of the occupations, > and 2) converting members of those occupations to christianity. You don't really believe Christians would make better reporters, do you? And as for converting; haven't you learned any tolerance at all??? I am not trying to convert you to atheism, so please stop trying to convert others to Christianity. If it has any validity at all, it will never lack followers. > Christians deciding to go into one of "those" occupations should still hold > his/her moral standards above those around her/him. In other words, I > remained consistent with my belief that christians are merely evil people > who are different from the rest of society because their evil has been > forgiven and they have some help in doing the good that they should do > and refraining from the evil that they should not do. I think I am going to throw up. > I seem to have a slight tendency toward stereotype which needed correction. SLIGHT??? Talk about an understatement! > of the people that I know, the > generous, loving, friendly, helping people tend to be Christian, while > those who are more self-centered, mean, unfriendly tend to be non-christian. Talk about self-centered! > there are general tendencies > that I percieve as quite pronounced. > Thus, Christians are just the people that I want to have > working in those occupations. Now, if a non-christian is going to do > as morally good and just a job as a Christian, then I guess that my > original posting (and this one) is directed to him/her. How generous :-). Well this is truly disgusting and insulting. I usually refrain from posting to this news group, but I just cannot control myself. What possible objective evidence do you have for implying that Christians are statistically more moral than non-Christians; and please don't spread any more BS about forgiveness or the Holy spirit helping you along. After all, the Christians had their crusades, just like everyone else. Or is that part of history omitted from your classes (along with evolution)? But let me give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume you have compiled a scientific study that shows a statistical difference between Christians and non-Christians. This assumption is temporary, and I expect this study to be published soon, including the criteria for measuring morality. Now we come to the issue of prejudice, a dangerous and ubiquitous attitude. There are certainly studies proving that blacks commit more crime (per capita). Shall I conclude from this, that I don't want a black person moving into my town? Such reasoning would be absurd!!!! Even if Christians were more "moral" than others (highly questionable), can't you judge a journalist by the quality of his/her work, without worrying about religious beliefs??? You *CANNOT* assume that a Christian will make a better journalist!!! This reminds me of an earlier article in this news group, where someone was elated because he sold his house to a Christian, and bought another house from a Christian. Oh thank Gawd he didn't have to sell to a "non-Christian" (sigh of relief). At the risk of sounding prejudice myself, I perceive Christians to be backwards in many ways, especially their extreme prejudices and intolerance. Please don't make any more statements about statistically significant differences in morality, until you have some supporting evidence. Should the difference exist, please don't assume that this difference (statistical, by its very nature, as you freely admit) validates your prejudices. -- Is it time to go home yet? Karl Dahlke ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad