Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf4.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!acf4!mms1646 From: mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: (Re:**N) Affirmative Action Message-ID: <1340299@acf4.UUCP> Date: Sun, 14-Jul-85 22:29:00 EDT Article-I.D.: acf4.1340299 Posted: Sun Jul 14 22:29:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jul-85 21:07:03 EDT References: <259@kontron.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 34 >/* mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) / 3:41 pm Jul 12, 1985 */ >If the closest you can come to a libertarian society (to serve as an example >on which you base predictions for remodeling our present society) is >ancient and medieval Ireland, I'd say that your ideas are not ignorant >nor ivory tower, but stupid and inapplicable. It would seem that you are illiterate rather, since Nat wrote ancient Iceland, not Ireland. >Of course markets initiate force. Not immediate, physical force >but force none the less. The penalties for ignoring that force can be >life-threatening. Such as the threat of starvation if you don't jump the >way the market dictates. Nonsense. It is not the market that "forces" here, but the reality of the scarcity of many resources. >No, the market essentially can rob you by devaluing your property. This devaluation entails a drop in the level of demand for (your) property of and/or an increase in the supply. How is this robbery? >I'm all for experimenting and giving it a chance: >but on a small scale, without coercing me into it through our current >political system. This statement would appear to betray a profound ignorance of libertarianism, as a transformation to a libertarian society from the present one would involve the elimination of coercion. >Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh Mike Sykora