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From: zubbie@ihlpl.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: Make vs. Rape
Message-ID: <184@ihlpl.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 28-Jun-85 14:37:18 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jun 28 14:37:18 1985
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> 
> I know this is several weeks old, but would someone explain to me the
> difference between "making someone have sex" and "rape"...I thought that
> rape is "making" someone have sex...
> 
> Nancy Parsons
> AT&T ISL

The difference is obvious:

	Making someone have sex with you implies that they still consent
	to the sexual **congress** even though they might much rather
	be in Pittsburgh at the time. (;-) (unless they are
	already in  Pittsburgh that is)

	RAPE  is violently FORCING a sexual act on a persons body
	regardless of age, sex objecttion, resistance or any other
	concern of the person being raped.
	
While rape usually involves some kind of sexually related action there
is no sex involved (Where sex is defined as the act of sexual coupling).
Maybe the difference seems very fine and perhaps even arbitrary the
semantics involved only help to confuse the issue. It is very
difficult to define an act or concept or anything at all when the
key words used in the thing to be described appear in the definition
as well.

ie

	pastel red is a color which is less red than the normally
		thought of color red.

Poor choice of example perhaps but mabe it gets the point accross if you
think of is as:

	Rape is a violently sexual act which involves sex as the
	means which one person  uses to exhibit dominance over another.

Although sex is used on both sides each use has a totally different meaning
which is not inherantly obvious at first reading. This seems to have been
the source of many misunderstood postings dealing with the concept that
rape is violence not sex.

jeanette l. zobjeck
ihnp4!ihlpl!zubbie


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