Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site usl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!akgub!usl!jih From: jih@usl.UUCP (Juha I. Heinanen) Newsgroups: net.emacs Subject: Re: Permission Message-ID: <575@usl.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Jun-85 18:49:50 EDT Article-I.D.: usl.575 Posted: Tue Jun 25 18:49:50 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Jun-85 06:23:51 EDT References: <4486@mit-eddie.UUCP> <2334@sun.uucp> <570@usl.UUCP> Reply-To: jih@usl.UUCP (Juha I. Heinanen) Distribution: net Organization: USL, Lafayette, LA Lines: 42 Summary: This is followup to my own message where I questioned the use of an educational Unix license for commercial purposes. Below are some relevant quotes from the terms for System V: 1.01 (a) Uses for "academic and educational purposes" means uses directly related to teaching ... and uses in noncommercial research by students and faculty, ..., provided that (i) neither the results of such research nor any enhancement or modification so developed is intended primarily for the benefit of a third party, (ii) such results, enhancements and modifications (...) are made available to anyone (...) without restriction on use, copying, or further distribution, notwithstanding any proprietary right (such as a copyright or patent right) that could be asserted by LICENSEE, its students or faculty members and (iii) any copy of such result, enhancement or modification furnished by LICENSEE is furnished for no more than the cost of reproduction and shipping. (b) Commercial use by LICENSEE of the LICENSED SOFTWARE or of any such result, enhancement or modification is not permitted under this agreement. Such commercial use is permissible only pursuant to the terms of an appropriate commercial software agreement between AT&T and LICENSEE. Any such result, enhancement or modification may be developed further by LICENSEE for commercial use (...) only on CPUs covered by such commercial software agreement and only provided that the result, enhancement or modification, in the form in which it exists when such commercial software agreement is executed by LICENSEE, remains available to anyone as specified in Section 1.01 (a). So, the question remains, did the machine James (I am using him here just as an example) developed his Emacs have a commercial Unix license. If it didn't, James' copyright notice doesn't prevent anybody (including Richard) (re)distributing James' code in the form it was when it left the educational machine. The same, of course, applies to any copyrighted code floating around in various universities. This is provided that the earlier licenses said roughly the same thing. -- Juha Heinanen USL, P.O. Box 44330, Lafayette, LA 70504-433, tel. (318)231-5345 UUCP: {ut-sally, akgua}!usl!jih ARPA: usl!jih@ut-sally