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From: jerry@oliveb.UUCP (Jerry Aguirre)
Newsgroups: net.news,net.news.group
Subject: Re: Removing net.flame
Message-ID: <484@oliveb.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 1-Jul-85 16:16:28 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul  1 16:16:28 1985
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Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino, Ca
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> 	It is in the interest of those who wish to see nutnews continue
> as the nation's number one use of cpu and user cycles to formally,
> and permanantly remove nut.flame from the list of newgroups supported
> by nutnews.  Any site who wishes, desipite this lack of support,
> to continue carrying nut.flame may indeed do so, however, 
> those who feel that it is inappropriate and prejudicial to the
> continued existance of the net may remove it and remain "USENET"
> subscribers.
> 
> 	I do not propose this measure lightly, as it will undoubtedly
> lead to the slow but certain removal of many controversial newsgroups,
> and possibly expose the net to charges of censorship, however, it is clear
> that the time has come where responsible and informed system administrators
> may feel that netnews is a threat to their own freedom and financial
> wellbeing.
> 
> (ihnp4/allegra)!alice!jj

All this "responsibility" from someone who misuses the ORGANIZATION
header:
    Organization: New Jersey State Farm for the Terminally Bewildered

What news groups a site carries is between that site and it's neighbors.
If the administration of a site feels that a group is inappropriate then
cut it off and advise your neighbors that you are doing so.  Don't tell
the rest of the net what to do.

Removing net.flame will not get rid of flames.  It will just spread them
arround in other groups and make it impossible for sites to selectively
control them.

				Jerry Aguirre @ Olivetti ATC
{hplabs|fortune|idi|ihnp4|tolerant|allegra|tymix}!oliveb!jerry