Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihnet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad From: eklhad@ihnet.UUCP (K. A. Dahlke) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: codes,designs,creation,intelligence Message-ID: <251@ihnet.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 03:15:08 EDT Article-I.D.: ihnet.251 Posted: Thu Jul 11 03:15:08 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Jul-85 04:16:48 EDT References: <32500041@uiucdcsb> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 44 > Yet not a week goes by on this > net that we don't hear evolutionists tell us they can't recognize evidence of > design and intelligence. They tell us this, of course, only when it's > convenient, in other words, when they're talking to creationists. When > they're working on SETI, or looking for arrowheads made out of rocks just like > all the other rocks lying on the ground, or noticing the difference between a > sandcastle on a beach and the patterns waves make on that same beach, then - > well, even a child can recognize that which took creative thought and that > which natural processes can produce. > A. Ray Miller It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day ... Good morning boys and girls (big smile), how are you today? This morning, we are going to talk about fundamental concepts in science. Now I know these will be obvious to you, but someday, when religion clouds your otherwise sharp minds, you might forget them. I understand some of you went to the beach last weekend and made sand castles. Did you really design them? How do you know? Did you see the patterns made by the random action of the waves? Have you ever seen anyone design these patterns? Have you ever seen waves produce a sand castle? Have you ever heard of any mechanism that might explain natural castle formation? Some adult may ask you if the patterns were designed, and the castles random. Remember, as prince Wednesday says, "you have to trust your senses." We therefore assume, until proven wrong, that castles are designed. Thus, when you see a sand castle, you will say it is designed. Can you say "induction". Sure. I knew you could. All of science is based on it. You don't need angular momentum to believe that the sun will rise tomorrow. I realize this is obvious to you children, but some adults have trouble with it. And remember last week, the story about the tribe that still makes arrow heads. It is certainly reasonable to assume specific items are designed, when you can watch them being made. Now children, have you ever seen Mr. Miller, or his mythical God create life? I haven't. Assessing (subjectively of course) the amount of "design" in life cannot prove creationism or evolution. Since we do not see speciation every day (designed or natural), we have nothing to go on. Both camps had better look somewhere else for evidence. But I'm sure you kids all understand this. Now don't forget to brush your teeth. -- main(){ printf("I believe I have free will, therefore I must."); } Karl Dahlke ihnp4!ihnet!eklhad