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From: wfi@rti-sel.UUCP (William Ingogly)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Re: Intelligence & SocioBio
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Date: Mon, 8-Jul-85 12:05:58 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul  8 12:05:58 1985
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In article dls@mtgzz.UUCP (d.l.skran) writes:

>>> >On a practical every day level, women do chose men, and men
>>> >women, 
>>> > ... Women tend to chose men(baring mental illness) that they
>>> >see some advantage in associating with. 
>>> 
>>> Which women? ALL women? All WASP women? All North American
>>> middle-class women? All women you personally know? And does this
>
>just women. women in general. women everywhere. all females.

Ever hear of self-destructive or self-punishing behavior, Mr/Ms Skran?
I've known people who consciously chose mates or companions who abused
them verbally or physically. I've also known people who made choices
that resulted in a lessening of social status. 

>>> statement imply men DON'T choose women they "see some advantage in
>>> associating with," or that women do so at a higher statistical
>>> frequency than men? What's your evidence if you're talking about 
>>> a higher statistical frequency of behavior in a certain population? 
>
>Did I say any of this? Did I hint at this? Even the smallest bit?

Yes, you did. I find it curious that you mention "women do choose men, 
and men women" in the first sentence, and only mention WOMEN in the 
second. It's either a typographical error, or a slip that reveals a 
certain sexist bias in your thinking. If it's a typo, I apologize. 
You might want to ask yourself WHY you made the typo, though. 

>Man chose women & women chose men. I think I'm asserting something
>so commonplace as to make your resistance to the notion curious. 

You seem to be extrapolating from your own personal experience and
making claims about WHY people choose each other (see? I'm giving you
the benefit of the doubt and assuming that your failure to mention 
men as well as women in the second sentence was a typo). That's what
I'm objecting to. What's curious about it?

>And your resistance to this statement reveals something
>about you. Why do you feel uncomfortable with the notion that
>women chose men & men chose women based on some criteria?

I'm not. See explanation of my objections to your posting above.

                         -- Cheers, Bill Ingogly