Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmum.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!water!watmum!cdshaw From: cdshaw@watmum.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Newsgroups: net.news,net.flame Subject: Re: To: persons offended by ucla-cs!alex Message-ID: <196@watmum.UUCP> Date: Sun, 30-Jun-85 08:53:49 EDT Article-I.D.: watmum.196 Posted: Sun Jun 30 08:53:49 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 1-Jul-85 05:42:22 EDT References: <1666@amdahl.UUCP> <131@ucla-cime.UUCP> <2896@nsc.UUCP> <134@ucla-cime.UUCP> Reply-To: cdshaw@watmum.UUCP (Chris Shaw) Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 49 Xref: watmath net.news:3536 net.flame:10896 In article <134@ucla-cime.UUCP> kyle@ucla-cime.UUCP (Kyle D. Henriksen) writes: >>From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) >>[ Usenet is a perq, and some (his opinon)dumb guys from UCLA abused said perq] > >Well since I don't agree with a statement you made, do I now have the RIGHT >to incite people to write unsolicited letters to you and your superiors? > The net serves a large community of users and I'm sorry that some of us >just don't really care what is posted, we only read what we think is relavant. >The techniques you are using are the traditional preludes to censorship, what >do you want the SOVIET CHUQNET? By the way your last comment there could >be considered libelous and damaging to a person's career... Well, by your argument, I obviously have the right to do anything I like, hence I have the right to do the following: 1)>incite people to write unsolicited letters to you and your superiors< 2) Make comments which might.. >be considered libelous and damaging to a person's career...< So which is it? Can I do what I like, or are there restrictions ? By Kyle's own arguments, it is clear there should be restrictions, the most obvious of which are those imposed by the laws of the land. Kyle's arguments hold about as much water as a seive. The way he is leaning is to assert that the Usenet sites MUST pay whatever costs are necessary to ensure that all articles in all groups go everywhere. This makes as much sense as demand that newspapers MUST print any letter that they receive, even if they have decided to stop publishing letters to the editor. By virtue of who pays the bills, making ridiculous demands on a free service will simply lead to that service being discontinued. And that's all there is to it.. no whining please !! The best approach for people who still want their candy is to suggest useful ways of ensuring that the problems so far won't continue. Babbling in loud tones "It's my Usenet and I want it....waaaaah" only serves as an excuse to site administrators for cutting their costs, not a reasonable argument. > What really is disturbing you about the recent postings? Oh, and by the way, calling someone you don't know a "slut" in a public forum is actionable in a civil court of law. Is that good enough, or did you "n" past all those articles ?? Chris Shaw watmath!watmum!cdshaw or cdshaw@watmath University of Waterloo I was walking down the street one day, when suddenly... my baloney melted !