Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Genesis died when Pete left Message-ID: <1188@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Jul-85 21:27:53 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1188 Posted: Tue Jul 9 21:27:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Jul-85 07:38:30 EDT References: <288@cmu-cs-g.ARPA> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 34 > Genesis died when Peter Gabriel left many years ago. I'm > continually astonished that people continued to listen as they > embarrassed themselves more and more without him. And Phil Collins > is now another pop star like Michael Jackson or Prince! Sad. > > Chris Koenigsberg I don't agree with this precisely. "Trick of the Tail" and "Wind and Wuthering" are both really good albums, but for sure they died an embarrassing death thereafter. ("Seconds Out" did give us a chance to hear Bruford and Collins together. That makes two live albums on which Bruford only played on a very small number of tracks out of the whole album. Name the other for a cookie.) What's really embarrassing is how great Phil Collins could have been. "In The Air Tonight" is a monster song, but little else of merit seemed to follow. What's really confusing is why a guy who basically looks like an aging balding golf pro at the local country club would become such a major pop star? Phil Collins with a number one album? I mean, Wham! I can understand as a #1, but Phil Collins? To think that he wasn't even going to sing for the band at all after Gabriel left. They placed ads in Melody Maker and auditioned dozens of singers to replace Gabriel, none of whom worked out. Ironically, his wife said to him "Why don't you sing?" one day, and sure enough, he sounded enough like Gabriel (rangewise and tonewise) to do the job!! I say "ironically", because years later it was his divorce from that same wife that led to his solo career. Do you ever get the feeling that Sting and Phil Collins would have wasted away if it wasn't for those wonderful occurrences in their lives, those horrid divorces and aftermaths at which they get to vent their misogynistic rage? A new genre: divorce rock!!! (You know Frida [AnnaFrida ex- of ABBA] had Collins produce her LP [the one with "Something Going On"] because she had just gone through a divorce and liked *his* album on the subject.)