Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site peora.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!petsd!peora!jer From: jer@peora.UUCP (J. Eric Roskos) Newsgroups: net.singles,net.social Subject: Re: Salemanship Message-ID: <1216@peora.UUCP> Date: Tue, 2-Jul-85 11:31:57 EDT Article-I.D.: peora.1216 Posted: Tue Jul 2 11:31:57 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Jul-85 20:24:51 EDT References: <968@peora.UUCP> <1424@mtx5b.UUCP>Organization: Perkin-Elmer SDC, Orlando, Fl. Lines: 30 Xref: watmath net.singles:7610 net.social:775 > Besides, what about the problem of _INITIATING_ a relationship, > i.e. getting that first date? I will agree that coldly manipulative > people do not do so well in relationships over the long haul, but > they often do well at starting relationships. Frank, I will agree with you for a change! This has always seemed a sad thing for me; that having known many male-type people very well, and a reasonable number of female-type people fairly well, I have observed many times that reasonably intelligent female-type people still get easily "taken in" by the male-type people with the cleverest "sales pitches," eventhough often those were the ones I (personally) thought were the less- desirable people (due to their tendency to distort things in a way intended to look the best). (And have also observed that in the long run many times things did not work out all that well, for that reason.) However, maybe this is just the old "what does he/she see in her/him" question. I must confess that I have an extreme dislike for people who don't tell me the truth about things, and this is largely why I perceived the above-mentioned people as "less desirable". At the same time I have seen that many people seem to exist in a frame of reference in which this distortion-of-reality is expected, even desirable, and although this is a frame of reference I don't understand, perhaps it is no less reasonable than mine... Just part of the infinite human variability, I guess. -- Shyy-Anzr: J. Eric Roskos UUCP: ..!{decvax,ucbvax,ihnp4}!vax135!petsd!peora!jer US Mail: MS 795; Perkin-Elmer SDC; 2486 Sand Lake Road, Orlando, FL 32809-7642