Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watnot!watcgl!jchapman From: jchapman@watcgl.UUCP (john chapman) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: problems with Star Wars #2 (part 1: a side issue) Message-ID: <2206@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jul-85 10:18:28 EDT Article-I.D.: watcgl.2206 Posted: Mon Jul 15 10:18:28 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jul-85 03:01:56 EDT References: <1197@utcsri.UUCP> <5757@utzoo.UUCP> <2165@watcgl.UUCP><1630@dciem.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 35 > > >Ignorance anywhere bothers me. But some of the "peace movement" people > >really do not appear to have the faintest idea how these systems work; > >their opposition seems to arise from either ideological considerations > >or herd instinct, rather than the issues themselves. I emphasize (as I > >should have before) that not all "peace movement" people are like this. > >The percentage is high enough to be troubling, though. > > As I just posted in a different context (lotteries), most PEOPLE are like > this. Ask, though, whether a person is more likely to be intelligent > given that s/he belongs to the "peace movement" or to the populace in > general (or to the populace matched for socioeconomic or educational > background). The fact that a lot of people cotton on to something > fashionable doesn't make it wrong (or right). > > As for whether people support some course of action for ideological > reasons or because of the issues themselves, well, that seems to be a > non-question. One's ideological background is a strong determiner of > how one will react to a controversial issue. Neither can be in play > without the other. > -- > > Martin Taylor > {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt > {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt Well said. Henry, I'd like to know why you are bothered by ignorance among some members of the peace movement and apparently not bothered (at least not enough to mention it) by the ignorance exhibited by some "hawks" (for lack of a better term). Do you have some *evidence* for greater ignorance on the part of the peace movement? does accidental peace bother you more than accidental war? :-) John Chapman ...!watmath!watcgl!jchapman