Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!lorien From: lorien@mhuxn.UUCP (CONWAY) Newsgroups: net.movies,net.movies.sw Subject: Re: _Star_Wars_ (spoiler) Message-ID: <201@mhuxn.UUCP> Date: Mon, 1-Jul-85 13:07:26 EDT Article-I.D.: mhuxn.201 Posted: Mon Jul 1 13:07:26 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Jul-85 05:32:27 EDT References: <2202@ut-sally.UUCP> <164@astroatc.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 99 Xref: watmath net.movies:6835 net.movies.sw:550 > > > > > > _Star_Wars_ > > > > by Kelvin Thompson > > > > _Star_Wars_, yet another entry in the recent spate of "Space Operas," is > > a bad, morally empty movie. Look, quick!! It has lights!! It has > > zooming spaceships!! It has laser flashes!! It has explosions!! Look > > closer, and it has nothing. > > Star Wars is a FANTASY-Adventure, that just happens to take place > "a long time ago, in a Galaxy far, far away". At this it is Excelent! > As for value, I recall that it won an Oscar. (Not bad for what you call > a worthless movie, especially considering that most critics would agree > with you!) > Why to people expect *MUCH* more from a movie in space? (See a > previous posting about Battlestar Galactiac posted to net.startrek) > > Look at how much is made off of James Bond movies....Do they have > any deep meaning, or new and original plot lines? Are they less > predictable? > I happen to *LIKE* special effects, and I agree that removeing them > all would detract from the movie, but what would you have if you > made "Raiders" with 20 year old techniqes? > > any semblance of realism. The spaceships make swishing and humming > > noises as they maneuver about, and their lasers make zapping noises as > > they fire -- all despite the fact that it has been scientifically proven > > that there are absolutely no sounds in space. > > cuz it's a fantacy-adventure in space. The *BIGGEST* tech. flaw that > can't be labled as "artistic licence is the personality of the robots, > but I LIKE them cuz it's a *FUN* movie, not a serious movie like > "Breakfast Club" or "The Big Chill" both of which were a bit boring! > > > > > In another gaffe later in the movie, a robot supposedly manages to go up > > and down a staircase, even though it is quite obvious that it is > > structurally impossible for the robot to do so. > > C3PO is no prob...R2D2 is a tri-ped, and he can extend his fore limb > (he rolled down an incline with is "body" vertical, not normal to the > inclne) so he/she/it should beable to navigate stairs, thou not without > considerable difficulty. > > > > > More important than any scientific error, however, is the glaring lack of > > any moral statement. > ---see abobe---- > > For example, when Hammill, the supposed hero of the movie, sees the > > burned corpses of his parents, he responds by turning his head sideways. > > NO! They are his Aunt and Uncle! He hated them, there farm, and that > whole planet!! (Besides, real men don't cry!) There death was > a predictable, and convenient way to get him to go with Obi Wan. > > > No tears, no shouts of outrage, just a crick in the neck and they are > > forgotten. > > Quoting from the script (after the hologram-messages, and just after > the destroyed jawa droid selling thing): > Luke: if they traced the robots here, they may have learned who they > sold them to. And that would lead them back Home! > Luke reaches a sudden horrible realization, then races for the speeder and > jumps in. > BEN: Wait, Luke! It's too dangerous. > luke races off leaving ben and the robots...gets home... > Luke stumbles around in a daze looking for his aunt and uncle. > Suddenly he cones upon their smoldering reamins. He is stunned, and > cannot speak, Hate replaced fear and a new resolve come over him. > ---end quote--- > it is common for one to not realize the full implication of a death > especially a sudden and violent death imeadeatly. This is normal > psycology. > > > Nonetheless, parents should make > > every effort to keep their children away from this morally bankrupt movie > > and direct them toward a film which takes a useful stand on some of the > > issues facing our world. And, naturally, all ethical adults should stay > > well away from it themselves. > > > Bull! SW is good clean fun! It also has a clear image of good and evil. > It shows a kid become a man, and even if you were right, that it had > totaly no social value, I'd still go see it 10 times just for the effects. > > There is nothing wrong with 1) good entertanment (Sometimes I hate sorries that > try TOO HARD to make a statement! That detracts!) > and 2) technology for the sake of tecnology! (read: good movie effects) > > flame back to sw (I don't read movies) > > ------John Wardale -- Madison, Wisconsin > > any civilized machine !uwvax!astroatc!johnw > > *** To err is human, to really foul-up world news requres The Net *** *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE *** Way to go, John!