Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site acf4.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!think!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!acf4!mms1646 From: mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Democratic decisions in everyone's interest Message-ID: <2380074@acf4.UUCP> Date: Thu, 4-Jul-85 02:25:00 EDT Article-I.D.: acf4.2380074 Posted: Thu Jul 4 02:25:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Jul-85 06:33:00 EDT References: <669@whuxl.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 31 >/* orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) / 8:49 am Jul 1, 1985 */ >On the other hand, my right to commit suicide by smoking tobacco does not >include my right to kill others with my tobacco smoke and the same for >marijuana smoke. And if someone feels threatened by my smoking in their presence in my house or place of business, they are always free to leave. If he/she is a friend, guest, customer., etc. then I wouldn't be so rude as to smoke in his/her presence. If he/she is not, then what is he/she doing in my home or place of business. >Libertarians have talked a lot about "straw-men" - I think it is a blatant >strawman to insist that democratic socialists on this net support the >suppression of individual liberties which involve solely the individual. I disagree. Since democratic socialists seek to restrain people's liberties regarding the employment of non-scarce resources as well as resources which can only belong to an individual (e.g., his time and effort), they are clearly seeking to suppress individual resources. >Speaking of civil liberties: what do Libertarians think about the New Jersey >law to force high school students to take drug tests? I think it is an outrageous violation of civil liberties. Incidentally, would you happen to know if the law includes private schools within its scope? > tim sevener whuxl!orb Mike Sykora