Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!ut-sally!pooh From: pooh@ut-sally.UUCP (Pooh @ the Utility Muffin Research Kitchen) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: DRAPERIES and stuff????? Message-ID: <2319@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 10:05:15 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.2319 Posted: Thu Jul 11 10:05:15 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Jul-85 07:05:52 EDT Distribution: net Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 60 Subject: Re: More women than men Newsgroups: net.singles References: <210@cuuxa.UUCP><462@unc.UUCP> <1105@peora.UUCP> <629@tpvax.fluke.UUCP> <262@timeinc.UUCP> <5464@tektronix.UUCP> <548@unc.UUCP> <565@unc.UUCP> > Frank Silbermann: > Quite right. But I ALSO mentioned singles parties, sponsored by > groups like "Young Singles of (your town)". I also took classes > (such as acting/improvisation) and attended various hobby clubs > (such as Toastmasters Club). The ratio at these other activities > was not as bad as 7/1, but women WERE a distinct minority even here. > Women SHOULD be a MAJORITY at these places, if the "manshortage theory" > were true. > Not necessarily. An overall proportion need not show itself in a limited sample. Maybe only men take these classes! > >> We men can't meet them if they spend most of their spare time > >>sitting at home with girlfriends talking about draperies and stuff. > > Dana S. Nau: > >That sounds sexist to me. Most women I know are pretty career-oriented, > >and are not particularly likely to "spend most of their spare time > >sitting at home with girlfriends talking about draperies and stuff". > > It is sexist, and often true. > Frank, please do me a favor and stop speaking for all the women out here. HOW do you know it's "often true"? Do you sneak up to the living-room window and listen in on those conversations? (If you really did, you'd probably learn a lot about yourself.) First of all, I have never discussed draperies with any of my friends. In fact, I have only discussed them once in my life: with my landlady, when I was taking my present apartment. Secondly, even assuming that SOME women stay at home with girlfriends when they could be going out and meeting you (have you told them what they're missing? :-), have you ever considered the possibility that they might feel more comfortable relating to a close friend in the privacy of their home than throwing themselves out on the meat market? Why should men have the monopoly on shyness? If I were to make assertions as insulting as you have made, I would say that most men sit at home with their buddies and talk about baseball scores. Feh. This year's fashion tip: asbestos maillots, Pooh pooh@purdue-ecn-cb.ARPA pur-ee!pooh Er hatte die Schnauze von diesem Leben voll; Er w\"ar' so gerne ausgeflippt. . . (Udo Linderberg)