Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!qantel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 38) Message-ID: <597@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Fri, 5-Jul-85 16:55:12 EDT Article-I.D.: cybvax0.597 Posted: Fri Jul 5 16:55:12 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Jul-85 06:34:32 EDT References: <396@iham1.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Distribution: net Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 65 In article <396@iham1.UUCP> rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) writes: > > 70. The occurrence of abnormally high gas and oil pressures > within relatively permeable rock implies that these fluids > were formed or encased less than 10,000 years ago. If > these hydrocarbons had been trapped OVER 10,000 years ago, > leakage would have dropped the pressure to a level far > below what it is today [a]. > > a) Melvin A. Cook, PREHISTORY AND EARTH MODELS (London: > Max Parrish, 1966), p. 341. High pressures are found in permeable rocks that are CAPPED BY IMPERMEABLE ROCKS. The pressure is due to the lower specific gravity of the oil and gas (compared to the water upon which it floats within the permeable rock.) An analogous situation would be a waterglass inverted into a pool of water, trapping air inside. If you put a tube down to the glass, and measured the pressure of air coming from the glass, it would be positive. > 71. Over twenty-seven billion tons of river sediments are > entering the oceans each year. Probably, this rate of > sediment transport was even greater in the past as the > looser top soil was removed and as erosion reduced the > earth's relief. But even if erosion has been constant, the > sediments that are now on the ocean floor would have > accumulated in only 30 million years. Therefore, the > continents and oceans cannot be one billion years old [a]. > > a) Stuart E. Nevins, ''Evolution: The Ocean Says No!'' > SYMPOSIUM ON CREATION V (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1975), > pp. 77-83. This entirely overlooks the simple fact of recycling of sediments into rocks and back into sediments. Not to mention the fact that much of the ocean floors is considered to be very young (because of generation of new ocean floor and subduction of old.) > 72. The continents are being eroded at a rate that would level > them in much less than twenty-five million years [a,b]. > However, evolutionists believe that the fossils of land > animals and plants that are at high elevations have been > there for over 300 million years. > > a) Nevins, pp. 80-81. > b) George C. Kennedy, ''The Origin of Continents, > Mountain Ranges, and Ocean Basins,'' AMERICAN > SCIENTIST, 1959, pp. 491-504. This entirely overlooks the fact of orogeny. New mountains can be built faster than they erode: I think this has been measured in the Himalayas. Anyone know of a reference to the rate of building? > 73. The rate at which elements such as copper, gold, tin, > lead, silicon, mercury, uranium, and nickel are entering > the oceans is very rapid when compared with the small > quantities of these elements already in the oceans. There > is no known means by which large amounts of these elements > can precipitate out of the oceans. Therefore, the oceans > must be very much younger than a million years. Because you are ignorant, you are able to conclude that? Amazing. Know-nothingism at its finest. (***sarcasm***) -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh