Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 7/1/84; site wuphys.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!mgnetp!we53!busch!wucs!wuphys!bsc From: bsc@wuphys.UUCP (Bryan Coughlan) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Collins Bashing (Re: Genesis died ...) Message-ID: <321@wuphys.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Jul-85 18:35:18 EDT Article-I.D.: wuphys.321 Posted: Tue Jul 16 18:35:18 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Jul-85 05:21:24 EDT References: <288@cmu-cs-g.ARPA>, <791@ihlpg.UUCP> <373@petfe.UUCP> <484@wdl1.UUCP> Organization: Physics Dept., Washington Univ. in St. Louis Lines: 49 >Too bad Phil never learned how to play drums .......... > I enjoy Phil and Genesis much better when Phil stays in front >of the drums and behind the mike. > Sam WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? You think Phil can't play drums ??? He's only one of the best rock drummers of this decade (and last ... not just my opinion). He's also one of the hottest producers around, and he can even write a good song now and then. By the way, I've been reading about how Phil "ripped off" Prince's "1999" when he wrote "Susudio" (Not one of his best efforts!). I've listened to both songs and am still trying to figure out how it could be a ripoff (talk to me, Rich!). Is it ... - a similarity between the keyboards in certain sections of both songs? - the rhythms? - verse structure? - a confession by Phil signed in blood? - something else? There is a slight similarity in the keyboards and rhythm, but not enough for me to consider plagiarism to have occurred. The verse structure (ABACAB :-) seems entirely different. So, how are the two songs so alike? A popular pastime on the net and everywhere is to criticize the most successful performers. In some cases, it can be justified; they succeed by finding the lowest common denominator. I don't think that it is true in this case, however. I've heard too many weird songs out of him (Do You Know, Do You Care, for instance) to belive in the Phil Collins LCD theorem! By the way, I am a fan. I hope that didn't muddle my thinking TOO much ! -- Bryan S. Coughlan ( Yes, that's right. My first ihnp4!wuphys!bsc two initials are B.S. ! )