Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cadovax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cadovax!keithd From: keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 27) Message-ID: <677@cadovax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Jun-85 21:20:40 EDT Article-I.D.: cadovax.677 Posted: Mon Jun 24 21:20:40 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Jun-85 01:50:47 EDT References: <376@iham1.UUCP> Organization: Contel Cado, Torrance, CA Lines: 58 [..............] > 45. No scientific theory exists to explain the origin of > matter, space, or time. Since each is intimately related > to or even defined in terms of the other, a satisfactory > explanation for the origin of one must also explain the > origin of the others [a]. Naturalistic explanations have > completely failed. > No scientific theory exists to explain the origin of space, time, or GOD. Since each is intimately related to or even defined in terms of the other, a satisfactory explanation for the origin of one must also explain the origin of the others. Even non-naturalistic explanations have completely failed. > 46. The First Law of Thermodynamics states that the total > amount of energy in the universe, or in any isolated part > of it, remains constant. This law states that although > energy (or its mass equivalent) can change form, it is not > now being created or destroyed. Countless experiments have > verified this. A corollary of the First Law is that > natural processes cannot create energy. Consequently, > energy must have been created by some agency or power > outside of and independent of the natural universe. a) Evolution is not in conflict with this. b) 'some agency or power' does not HAVE to be outside of and independent of the natural universe, just outside of our present awareness. > 48. Heat always flows from hot bodies to cold bodies. If the > universe were infinitely old, the temperature throughout > the universe should be uniform. Since the temperature of > the universe is not uniform, the universe is not > infinitely old. Therefore, the universe had a beginning a) Evolution is not in conflict with this. b) Here I must ask a question of the physicists on the net. I've heard of theories that propose that eventually matter may re-compress into a giant black hole after a very long time, and perhaps causing another 'big bang', indicating that the universe explodes and collapses over and over. I'd like to hear more about the present state of these and related theories if anyone out there knows more. > 49. A further consequence of the Second Law is that when the > universe began, it was in a more organized state than it > is today--not in a highly disorganized state as assumed by > evolutionists and proponents of the Big Bang Theory. Again, this has zip to do with evolution. And, I'm not sure it really has anything to do with present 'origin of universe' theories. Keith Doyle # {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax}!trwrb!cadovax!keithd "No Smoking or Spitting - The Mgmt."