Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.women Subject: Portrait of Madonna and child Message-ID: <1218@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jul-85 16:47:54 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1218 Posted: Mon Jul 15 16:47:54 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jul-85 06:29:32 EDT Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.flame:11157 net.women:6417 I'm just wondering. It seems that throughout recent history, there have been women who dressed sleazily or trashily who were in the public eye, or who at least flaunted their sexuality as a primary facet to their public appeal. No one (or at least very few) ever really seriously complained about them very much as "role models". Now, along comes Madonna, who not only fits the above description, but who also promotes her "material girl" philosophy (which some seem to have interpreted as "use 'em and lose 'em", analogous to a famous similar expression used among some elements of the male community). Suddenly, the uproar begins. Could it be that this one element, this difference between her and those who preceded her, could be the source of the uproar? Just wondering. Especially considering the position and tone of her detractors. I am taking this opportunity to announce that, due to unpopular demand, I am (finally) discontinuing my series of "Like a dervish (HEY!), whirled for the very first time..." signature lines. Threats, violence, hate mail, all failed to deter me from continuing them. The straw that broke the camel's back was the flurry of new ideas that made the "virgin" lines seem to be high humor by comparison ("Like a clergyman, defrocked for...", "About 'like a sturgeon'---is that fishful thinking?"). I thought no one could invent humor lower and more tasteless than these signature lines. I was wrong. :-) In conclusion... -- "I can hear your watch beep, for the very first time..." :-) Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr