Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site varian.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!intelca!qantel!vlsvax1!zehntel!varian!fred From: fred@varian.UUCP (Fred Klink) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: RE: RE: Frankie Moser's Hour Record(*DEFINITE NON_SPOILER*) Message-ID: <340@varian.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Jul-85 15:20:06 EDT Article-I.D.: varian.340 Posted: Mon Jul 8 15:20:06 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jul-85 14:54:10 EDT References: <1020@druxj.UUCP> Organization: Varian, Walnut Creek, CA Lines: 40 > Some of us know, others think so! > > I guess I have to ruin this reply with some FACTS. > > *********FACTS ON*********** > Several of my friends have ridden the Giro D'Italia and > have witnessed Mr. Moser being pushed up the hill in short > bursts by spectators. They have also seen members of his team > physically restrain other riders while climbing. > ********FACTS OFF*********** > > Hey, look. I am not saying that your idol, Frankie > Moser, isn't a great bike racer heck, the guy won > a World Championship and 3 Paris Roubaixs, etc. > However, its pretty clear to myself and a few other bike > persons that his hour record is TAINTED by the use > of Aerodynamic wheels, which BTW make a very big difference. > Moser only broke the record by about 2% and I bet the > Aerodynamic wheels were greater than a 2% advantage. > If the wheels didn't make that much difference then why > did he use them? > > Bruce Hildenbrand Did I say that the wheels were not an advantage? Did I say spectators did not push Mr Moser? You've spoken to riders who were in the Giro, so you're one up on me. I was stating an opinion that a racer doesn't get to Moser's position in the sport by using weird equipment and being pushed up hills, which seemed to be the point of your posting. I think we can basically agree to disagree on the role of these factors in Moser's success. Incidentally, I just read that Moser won the final time trial in this year's Giro as well. He beat Hinault, probably the best time trialist in Europe right now. I assume they both used disk wheel bikes(?). Also, Hinault and Moser teamed up to win the Barrachi Trophy last season, which should be additional testimonial to both of their TT skills. Oh, PS, I have very few "idols". I just like to see an accomplised racer get due respect. the final time trial