Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 35) Message-ID: <549@psivax.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Jul-85 17:53:27 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.549 Posted: Wed Jul 10 17:53:27 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jul-85 07:41:58 EDT References: <389@iham1.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Distribution: net Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 53 Summary: In article <389@iham1.UUCP> rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) writes: > > THE SCIENTIFIC CASE FOR CREATION: 116 CATEGORIES OF EVIDENCE > >II. (Astronomical Sciences): THE UNIVERSE, THE SOLAR SYSTEM, AND LIFE > WERE RECENTLY CREATED. > > B. TECHNIQUES THAT ARGUE FOR AN OLD EARTH ARE EITHER ILLOGICAL OR > ARE BASED ON UNREASONABLE ASSUMPTIONS. > > 65. Many different people have found, at different times and > places, man-made artifacts encased in coal. Examples > include .... By evolutionary dating > techniques, these objects would be hundreds of millions of > years old; but man supposedly did not begin to evolve > until 2-4 million years ago. Again, something is wrong. > > a) Rene Noorbergen, SECRETS OF THE LOST RACES (New York: > The Bobbs-Merrill Company, Inc., 1977), pp. 40-62. > b) Harry V. Wiant, Jr., ''A Curiosity From Coal,'' > CREATION RESEARCH SOCIETY QUARTERLY, Vol.13, No.1, > June 1976, p. 74. > c) J. R. Jochmans, ''Strange Relics from the Depths of > the Earth,'' BIBLE-SCIENCE NEWSLETTER, January 1979, > p. 1. > d) Wilbert H. Rusch, Sr., ''Human Footprints in Rocks,'' > CREATION RESEARCH SOCIETY QUARTERLY, March 1971, pp. > 201-202. > e) Frederick G. Wright, ''The Idaho Find,'' AMERICAN > ANTIQUARIAN, Vol.II, 1889, pp. 379-381, as cited by > William R. Corliss in ANCIENT MAN, A HANDBOOK OF > PUZZLING ARTIFACTS (Glen Arm, Maryland: The Sourcebook > Project, 1978), pp. 661-662. > f) Frank Calvert, ''On the Probable Existence of Man > During the Miocene Period,'' ANTHROPOLOGICAL INSTITUTE > JOURNAL, Vol.3, 1873, as cited by William R. Corliss > in ANCIENT MAN, A HANDBOOK OF PUZZLING ARTIFACTS (Glen > Arm, Maryland: The Sourcebook Project, 1978), pp. > 661-662. Hmmm, these seem to be mostly(or exclusively) highly partisan creationist publications, I would like to see this stuff confirmed in proper refereed journals! I place about as much faith in these finds as I do in the Paluxy River "human footprints" - exactly none! (Actually, the first reference sounds like it is even worse than a creationist publication - a Von-Daenken-esque type pseudo-science book) -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) {trwrb|allegra|cbosgd|hplabs|ihnp4|aero!uscvax!akgua}!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen or {ttdica|quad1|bellcore|scgvaxd}!psivax!friesen