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From: mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora)
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Subject: Re: Explorations of "social-interest": Back to Basics
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Date: Wed, 26-Jun-85 17:51:00 EDT
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>/* robg@mmintl.UUCP (Robert Goldman) / 11:29 am  Jun 24, 1985 */

>It is quite possible
>that the interests of a group are some non-obvious, non-intuitive function
>of the interests of its members.

Could you give an example?  I really don't see how this is possible

>Furthermore, Mr. Sevener's auto example makes it clear that by becoming
>a member of a group, my interests are changed.

I don't find this clear at all.  Joining a group can change intemediate goals,
i.e., goals, the achievement of which are necessary for the achievement of
ultimate goals.  But ultimate goals would never change.

>Even this is a big
>concession to the libertarians, for it is clear that human beings as
>individuals, rather than as members of society, only exist in works of
>fiction like _Robinson_Crusoe_ and _Anthem_.

Human beings are individals.  They form societies for mutual benefit,
i.e., to facilitate achievement of their individual goals.

>			Robert Goldman

						Mike Sykora