Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site druri.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!drutx!druri!jhs From: jhs@druri.UUCP (ShoreJ) Newsgroups: net.bicycle Subject: Re: Vetta chain cleaner Message-ID: <1103@druri.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Jun-85 11:45:18 EDT Article-I.D.: druri.1103 Posted: Mon Jun 24 11:45:18 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Jun-85 08:03:11 EDT References: <271@tektools.UUCP>, <1715@bmcg.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Denver Lines: 25 Re: no seals on Vetta cleaner In fact, there's no seal at either end of the Vetta cleaner. As suggested, a rag *around* the chain where it exits does the trick nicely. Helpful hint: If you're as klutzy as I am, remember not to tip the cleaner more than about 25 degrees off horizontal or you pour yuk all over yourself! For prospective Vetta buyers: The only actual problem I've experienced (other than yuk-pouring!) has been with a short-cage derailleur. With my Campy Nuovo Record, I can't slip the retaining arm of the cleaner over the derailleur, as shown in the instructions, because it sits against the pulleys and you can't rotate the chain. It does work as shown for my long cage Suntour derailleur-equipped bike. For short cage derailleurs, manually keeping the cleaner in position while rotating the chain a little slower than normal works: unless you have three hands (or a "handy" friend), loosely wrap the rag around the chain, hold the exit end of the cleaner *and* the rag in one hand, counterrotate the crank with the other. -- Jeff Shore @ AT&T ..!ihnp4!druri!jhs "Where worlds collide"