Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sphinx.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!gargoyle!sphinx!wimp From: wimp@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Haferman) Newsgroups: net.music.gdead Subject: Re: And what would be the answer to... Message-ID: <784@sphinx.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Thu, 4-Jul-85 19:45:22 EDT Article-I.D.: sphinx.784 Posted: Thu Jul 4 19:45:22 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Jul-85 09:44:16 EDT References: <341@sri-arpa.ARPA> Organization: U. Chicago - Computation Center Lines: 47 > Jeff Haferman: Lots of discussion about song names. For example, > is "Sunshine Daydream" an actual separate song? And you might have been > privy to the recent "Cryptical Envelopement" brouhaha. Well, I can > understand the mistake of calling "I used to Love Her" -> "She used to > Love Me", but how the hell-in-a-bucket did you EVER come up with > "Stumble and Fall"????????? Somebody has already answered the first question: > I don't think its a separate song (title?), its just that they don't always > finish with it from Sugar Magnolia ....sooooo ya need a way to mark your > tape boxes so you know they remembered to finish it that night. And yes, I have heard the "Cryptical Envelopment"/"The Other One" stuff ten times over. I will always call this song "The Other One" even though it has been copyrighted under the name "Cryptical Envelopment." The Dead call it "The Other One" on their Skullfuck album (which you can call 'Skull and Roses' or 'Grateful Dead Live 2 l.p. Set' if you wish). As for 'Stumble and Fall,' that's what I always call it just because that's what I was told its name was when I first heard it. There is a portion of the song that contains the words 'stumble and fall.' I even mark it that way on cassettes. Does a studio version of this one exist anywhere? If so, what is it called on the album? Anyway, there are a lot of Dead songs that go by several names. Another common one is 'Peggy-O,' the real name (or so I've been told) is 'Fennario.' As long as we understand each other when we refer to songs, I think we can allow for these differences in titles. Jeff "What Shall We Say, Shall We Call It By a Name?" --from 'Weather Report Suite, part II' (otherwise known as 'Let It Grow')