Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tekchips.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekcrl!tekchips!stevev From: stevev@tekchips.UUCP (Steve Vegdahl) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: Re: All-Star teams (also geography) Message-ID: <105@tekchips.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Jul-85 14:38:23 EDT Article-I.D.: tekchips.105 Posted: Wed Jul 3 14:38:23 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Jul-85 10:22:39 EDT References: <345@houem.UUCP> <8479@watarts.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 35 > And by the way, the NBC bit last saturday on snow in October in Montreal > was really absurd, and despite some climatic differences, Toronto > is on the same latitude as Northern California... Remember the dollar > difference in October, the Wrold series in Canada will be a bargain! Stating that Toronto is on the same latitude as Northern California is stretching the truth more than a little. California's northern border is the 42nd parallel. Toronto is between the 43rd and 44th. Stating things as the author of the above message did is particularly deceiving because "Northern California" traditionaly refers to the San Francisco Bay Area, which straddles the 38th parallel. The casual reader might come away with the impression that "Montreal is close to Toronto, which is on the same parallel as San Francisco", and thereby conclude that Montreal (north of the 45th) and San Francisco (38th) are at approximately the same latitude. With respect to snow in October, my grandmother (who has lived all here life near Minneapolis) tells me that it is not unheard of to get snow there in September or May. The same thing could be said about Denver, no? On to another subject. I always thought that the best way to negate all-star ballot-box stuffing would be to normalize the votes based on the total number of votes cast at each team's stadium. That is to say, to weight the votes so that the fans each team count for 1/26 of the total. This would require a ballot-box stuffing plot to be organized across several major league cities to have a significant effect. Incidentally, it seems to me that a group of people dedicated to having fan-ballotting eliminated could stuff ballot-boxes with votes for no-stars. Steve Vegdahl Computer Research Lab. Tektronix, Inc. Beaverton, Oregon