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From: roy@gitpyr.UUCP (Roy Mongiovi)
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Subject: Re: Women/men and the consumption of toilet paper
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Date: Fri, 28-Jun-85 15:20:35 EDT
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> I can only assume that by "what happens next," you mean rape.  I assume this
> because the connection between rape and clothing has been a heated topic of
> conversation here for quite a while.
> 
> If this is what you mean, then I strongly disagree with you.  If a woman is
> raped, it is not her fault, regardless of what she looks like, what she
> wears, or how she acts.  A woman should be able to walk naked down Main
> Street without being raped.

Actually, I don't think there is any excuse for violence being performed on
another without their consent.  What I had in mind for "what happens next"
was a rude/lewd comment/suggestion of the type, "Hey baby, wanna ####?"
Which sexy clothing could provoke from some people.  I also don't believe
that there is any excuse for not taking "no" for an answer.  But in one of
the postings about this subject the woman indicated that (although she did
not tell the guy to bug off) she got extremely upset for days.  To avoid
a reaction like that you may have to modify your dress habits because you
cannot modify the rest of the people in the world.

Yeah, maybe a woman should be able to walk down the street in her birthday
suit without so much as a second glance.  But then maybe the rapist should
be able to get help for his problem before he turns to violence.  The world
isn't perfect and you have to take it as it is.  Only your own life is under
your control.  If there is a rape waiting to happen, whose fault it is is
absolutely immaterial.  If your behaviour incites a rapist to pick you instead
of someone else, then I think that if you have any brains at all you will
change your behaviour.  Being in the right is damn poor consolation for
being raped.
-- 
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