Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!jeff From: jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Genesis died when Pete left (Phil Collins) Message-ID: <1628@dciem.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 10:44:23 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1628 Posted: Fri Jul 12 10:44:23 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Jul-85 14:07:37 EDT References: <288@cmu-cs-g.ARPA> <791@ihlpg.UUCP>Reply-To: jeff@dciem.UUCP ( Richardson) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 30 Summary: > Boy, I hate to see Phil lumped into the same class with Michael Jackson and > Prince(ss)! (I wish I had the article to quote from.) They are 'media- > phenoms' and while MJ can dance and even sing tolerably (though not as well > as when he was with his brothers), he is nothing more than an adequate > performer. In my opinion Prince is talentless. > .... > Collins, on the other hand, is light-hearted, doesn't take himself too > seriously (did you see him on Letterman or Carson, and would those other > 2 clowns ever do that?????), plus he is immensely talented! I have > liked his work since I heard his first solo album. I think it's great! > .... > --Evan Marcus I would have agreed until Phil's latest album, "No Jacket Required". The album seems pretty boring overall, and the best song on it is a blatant rip-off of Prince's "1999". (When I posted my review of "No Jacket Required" a few months ago, I said they were "very similar", or something like that. That was based on vague memories of "1999" from about two years ago, but recently I heard the two songs played back-to-back on the radio, and now I wonder why Prince isn't suing.) Whether Prince is a "talentless clown", as Evan calls him, is irrelevant. We know Phil is capable of much better, and he doesn't have to steal music from anybody. As recently as 1983, I was convinced that he still wanted to make interesting music, but now I'm not so sure. He seems to be much more concerned with doing as much as he can (solo work, Genesis, and producing, drumming and singing for other people), whether it's good or not. -- Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto (416) 635-2073 {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsri!dciem!jeff {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff