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From: andy@sdcarl.UUCP (Andrew Voelkel)
Newsgroups: net.micro.16k,net.micro.68k
Subject: data books
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Date: Wed, 26-Jun-85 15:57:52 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jun 26 15:57:52 1985
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I am placing this here because I don't know where else to go and I know
both you National and Motorola gurus read this.
	I am a digital designer of board level devices, usually of the
digital but often of the analog or hybrid varieties. I currently work
at the Computer Audio Research Laboratory at UCSD. I will soon be doing
independent consulting. I have spent much time here aquiring data books
which are obviously essential to a designers work. They must be around
so that when one part doesn't work out one can use another etc. Knowing
the ins and outs of everyones part is the responsibility of every con-
sciensious designer. With this in mind, I am miffed by aspects of both
National and Motorola documentation. 
	As far as you National folks are concerned, why does it seem
that there is an ironclad policy of charging for data books? No one else
seems to have this policy. I really have never found a good direct number
(phone) to National to even know if this is definitely true, but every
source for your books I know of involves paying for them. This may seem
like a minor complaint but all I want to do is design something with
your parts in it that will have to be bought from you.
	As far as Motorola is concerned my complaint is different.
If I make a trip down to my Motorola rep I can pick up books they have,
which is standard policy. I recently got a bunch of stuff from my 
friend who just got hooked up with the consultant support program.
There were a number of books I'd never seen before, many I am very
glad to have. I've applied for the same program but so far no reply.
Anyway, I am wandering around the local retail outlet that happens
to stock a bunch of books and I stumble across a Motorola schottky
TTL book. I'd never seen this book before, and I've been to the rep
more than once! I had to have it because it specs the newer ALS parts
and TI is way behind on their new TTL data book, so I bought it so
I could get real data on new ALS parts. The guy behind the counter
said there are many publisher of Motorola books, and there are many
great and obscure books that no one knows about. Is there any truth
to this? How can one get a list of the books that do exist?
	If I call AMD or MMI or a number of other sorts, they will
be forthcoming in getting me the information I will need for my work,
since I must leave the books I have spent much time gathering here.
Can any one out there help me avoid the cloak and dagger Motorola-
National data book game?

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	Andrew Voelkel
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