Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site kontron.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!pesnta!pertec!kontron!cramer From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Explorations of "social-interest": Origins of Human Society Message-ID: <321@kontron.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Jul-85 14:33:24 EDT Article-I.D.: kontron.321 Posted: Wed Jul 3 14:33:24 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Jul-85 07:29:21 EDT References: <657@whuxl.UUCP> <2380051@acf4.UUCP> <373@spar.UUCP> Organization: Kontron Electronics, Irvine, CA Lines: 20 > > Human beings are individals. They form societies for mutual benefit, > > i.e., to facilitate achievement of their individual goals. > > > > Mike Sykora > > Can you cite a single instance of a lasting human society (not a club > or other special-interest organization) being formed by the rational > agreement of otherwise atomic human beings? If not, on what basis are > you making this assertion? There is disagreement among anthropologists > about how human societies form and develop, but it would appear that man > is an *instinctively* social animal. Do you have evidence to the contrary? > > Baba Plymouth Compact. The original government of Rhode Island. Those come right off the top of my head. I don't know a great deal about their social organization, but the runaway slave society of Brazil in the 1600s? 1700s? seems to qualify as well.