Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84 chuqui version 1.7 9/23/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!nsc!chuqui From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.emacs Subject: Re: Permission Message-ID: <2922@nsc.UUCP> Date: Sun, 30-Jun-85 17:19:09 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.2922 Posted: Sun Jun 30 17:19:09 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 1-Jul-85 07:38:42 EDT References: <570@usl.UUCP> <575@usl.UUCP> Reply-To: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Distribution: net Organization: The Dreamer Fithp Lines: 37 Summary: In article <575@usl.UUCP> jih@usl.UUCP (Juha I. Heinanen) writes: >So, the question remains, did the machine James (I am using him here >just as an example) developed his Emacs have a commercial Unix >license. If it didn't, James' copyright notice doesn't prevent >anybody (including Richard) (re)distributing James' code in the >form it was when it left the educational machine. The same, of >course, applies to any copyrighted code floating around in various >universities. Wrong. The copyright notices are correct regardless of whether or not Jim broke AT&T's licensing. Copyright law is a different field from contract law (or trade secret, for that matter). IF Gosling broke the license, it is up to AT&T to do something about it; nobody else can because the transgression was against them. In any case, the copyright would stand. From what I can see, AT&T would have the following three options: o cancel CMU's licenses. o force CMU to upgrade the license to commercial and pay whatever fees are required to do so. o require Gosling to assign the copyright to them (he still has the copyright, but they control the distribution of the code). This would be similar to the cases in publishing where an author sells a story to a magazine and gives up specific rights. In no case does the copyright become invalid. Don't make assumptions that it will, or you could get yourself in trouble. chuq -- :From the misfiring synapses of: Chuq Von Rospach {cbosgd,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA The offices were very nice, and the clients were only raping the land, and then, of course, there was the money...