Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Re: Premises,Premises,Premises,... ( Message-ID: <1147@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Sat, 29-Jun-85 01:37:41 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1147 Posted: Sat Jun 29 01:37:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Jun-85 05:15:16 EDT References: <809@teddy.UUCP> <27500083@ISM780B.UUCP> <818@teddy.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 14 > No, that isn't what I meant. Since I haven't actually met a hell's angel > (although I have met some Bikers) I may be wrong, but my impression is > that if you ask a Hell's Angel "Are you a good person?" he's likely > to answer, "No, I'm a mean son of a bitch". And be proud of it. [KOLODNEY] As Jim Balter said, not "good" by your standards (and that's the point). Remember we're not dealing with a particular subjective moral viewpoint (i.e., yours) on what is defined as "good". Though they may never use the actual word, their position on their own morality is surely that the things they do are "good" from their perspective, from within their morality. Within any "society", the moral code, whatever it is, is deemed to be "good". -- Like a turban (HEY!), worn for the very first time... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr