Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihu1e.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihu1e!mjv From: mjv@ihu1e.UUCP (Vlach) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: More women than men (really who initiates things) Message-ID: <487@ihu1e.UUCP> Date: Mon, 15-Jul-85 22:00:30 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1e.487 Posted: Mon Jul 15 22:00:30 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jul-85 07:01:52 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 31 > ...wrong signals, perhaps you're sending the right signals but they > are reading them wrong, perhaps you have happened upon a batch of > males that can't handle an aggressive female. I think you have stumbled upon the answer here. The main group of males that found me intimidating were punks, I mean the hardcore type musically. I used to hang around with lots of punks, most of the boys being in local bands (boys, not men -- mostly around 18-19 at the time). I was known to make moves on MOTAS (my 2 girlfriends sort of spread this info to their male friends about my wanton desires and previous actions.) Anyway, I soon found most of them avoiding me before I even had a chance to offend any of them. Maybe they were just too cool for me. Now I hang around with a strictly hacker crowd, and I am much more popular with these men, in fact I must admit they are mostly all quite fond of me. What with the poor male/female ratio in engineering departments, I am often the only female in the bunch. I am sort of the SO of the whole group, meaning I go places with them all and we are very close. I hope this doesn't sound too kinky. I might add that I have a loved SO whom I live with, and I also am close to some of his friends, who have no MOTAS and appreciate hugs from me. In fact, although I am quite ordinary looking, if I could clone myself I could make lots of $$$$ selling my clones to all these wonderful, lonely men I know. (I think that there is indeed a shortage of available women!) So I know I don't intimidate some men, although some of the ones that like me might think I am "safe" because I do have a loved one of my own. I will change my statement to saying I am QUITE aggressive instead of somewhat, but as the men I know become older they seem to appreciate it more. I will also admit that the men who don't like forward women are usually what I consider dumb jerks, so it's just as well if I offend them.