Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site uottawa.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!nrcaero!uottawa!erics From: erics@uottawa.UUCP (Eric Smith) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Created Yesterday Message-ID: <81@uottawa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 28-Jun-85 16:25:24 EDT Article-I.D.: uottawa.81 Posted: Fri Jun 28 16:25:24 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Jul-85 08:25:48 EDT References: <45200012@hpfcms.UUCP>, <1310012@acf4.UUCP> Organization: University of Ottawa,Ottawa,Ont.,Canada Lines: 32 In <45200012@hpfcms.UUCP> mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) writes: >The god model is not a simple solution, or a solution at all, because >it leaves unanswered at least as many questions as it answers. That >god created the world begs the question "Who created god?" I could >come up with atheory that said tha god1 created th world and that god2 >created god1. Furthermore, I could say that there is an infinite series >of gods, god1, god2, . . ., godn, . . ., etc. This "theory" has as much >merit as the monotheistic one, yet I suspect that you find it less >appealing (correct me, of course, if I'm wrong). Why? > Mike Sykora Of course, the simplest assumption (and the one held by traditional theology) is that God has *always* existed, hence the question "Where did God come from?" is irrelevant. The "theory" mentioned above is much more complicated -- I would think that the simpler one would be more likely to be true. The idea that the *universe* has always existed is even simpler; but various evidence, e.g. the mass of the universe, relative abundance of deuterium, etc. seem to indicate that the universe is a one-shot deal which arose out of nothingness ~15 billion years ago (I'm sure I'll be corrected if inaccurate). So postulating a creator for it seems reasonable; it's either that or have something spontaneously created out of nothing. In any case, the creation of the universe is clearly a 'supernatural' event, since it involves a gross violation of the law of conservation of mass/energy. -- Eric Smith "No matter where you go, University of Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont. there you are." ...utzoo!dciem!nrcaero!uottawa!erics - B. Banzai