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From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor)
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Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 30)
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Date: Tue, 2-Jul-85 18:02:27 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul  2 18:02:27 1985
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The rn program asks:
This program posts news to everyone on the machine.
Are you absolutely sure that you want to do this? [ny] y

I can't imagine why I answered "y" in this group, but there are idiocies
that surpass understanding, here. For example:
>       54.  If stars evolve, we should see about as many  star  births
>            as  star deaths. The deaths of stars are bright and sudden
>            events called ''novas'' and ''supernovas.'' Similarly, the
>            birth  of  a star should be accomplished by the appearance
>            of  light  where  none  previously  existed  on  the  many
>            photographic  plates  made  decades  earlier.  Instruments
>            should also be able to detect dust falling  into  the  new
>            star.  We  have  NEVER  seen a star born, but we have seen
>            thousands of stars die. There is no  evidence  that  stars
>            evolve [a].

Some star deaths lead to novae, and some stars go nova several times.
But to say we should see star birth by seeing light where none was
visible "decades" ago is ridiculous.  Star birth is observed in many
ways, but most directly by infrared observation of the infalling dust
clouds (that "instruments should also be able to detect", and can).
See several recent issues of Scientific American, for example. (Or is
it on the Index of books prohibited to Creationists?)
-- 

Martin Taylor
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