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From: shp@crystal.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.net-people
Subject: Re: To: persons offended by ucla-cs!alex
Message-ID: <476@crystal.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 24-Jun-85 10:29:35 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jun 24 10:29:35 1985
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[Apologies for reposting all this; methinks it is necessary]

> >It may interest you to know that the Usenet contact person
> >at ucla-cs is Doris McClure, ihnp4!ucla-cs!doris.
> >I suggest rather than flaming to her that you should send an
> >example of Alex's postings so that Alex may represent himself
> >directly....
> >Gordon A. Moffett               ...!{ihnp4,cbosgd,sun}!amdahl!gam
> 
> 	Well I'm glad to see that someone out there is stupid enough to start
> giving out system administrator's addresses.  Thats right, these people have
> nothing better to do than deal with idiots who decide that they don't like
> what a particular user is posting to the net.  I wish that you and the rest
> of net fascists would find something better to do with your time besides
> occupying the time of people who actually work.
> 
> Kyle Henriksen
	
	Wrong, although I'm sure you mean well.  In the case of any other net
    abuser, you'd be quit correct, but not dear Alex.  Free speech is one thing,
    shouting "Movie!" in a crowded firehouse is quite another.  Alex's "cute"
    games with the followup line DO interfere with "people who actually work."
    He's causing all this excess verbiage from net.flame (my favorite group) to
    be spread to inoffensive and informative groups, who have no interest in
    reading endless tirades.  This isn't "free speech", this is "illegal 
    dumping."  Site admins ARE responsible for what comes out of their sites;
    if the good people at ucla-cs are allowing one of their own to trash the
    net, something must be done.  And chances are that Doris McClure is quite
    able to deal with voluminous mail, particularly when confronted with
    dozens of identical "Subject: Alex the Jerk" lines.  Besides, better the
    side admin than the Board of Regents (who DON'T know how to deal with 
    dozens of flames, electronic or otherwise! :-1/2-).

	=shp