Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Phil Collins sucks Message-ID: <1221@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Jul-85 07:50:38 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1221 Posted: Tue Jul 16 07:50:38 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Jul-85 04:50:04 EDT References: <4682@mit-eddie.UUCP> <388@petfe.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 40 > As I also said in part of my article (I think) this album of Phil's is not > his best, but his previous 2 are really marvelous. You're the 2nd person > I have heard accuse Phil of ripping off Prince's music (both netters replying > to my article). Besides the fact the I don't particularly the that S-S-Song, > I don't really see too much similarity to Prince. Aside from the organ chords, the organ sound itself, the beginning of the melody line (which in Collins' song deteriorates from "1999" into nothing), the rhythmic texture and overall feel, I see no similarity at all between "1999" (a really great song) and "Pseu-Pseudomusico". (That's sarcasm, you know!) Collins blatantly ripped off Prince there. > And as for Prince melting in front of the other talent, maybe you didn7t hear > that MJ recorded his stuff separately (he might have melted too). As for LR, > he may not be that talented, but he has a very commanding personality, as > evidenced at Live-Aid, where he showed up for the finale and seemed to take > over. By talent, I was referring to Stevie Wonder, Harry Belafonte, Bruce > (pardon me, I like him) Springsteen, Billy Joel, Smokey Robinson, Ray Charles, > Bob Dylan, Bob Geldof, and Paul Simon, to name but a few (in NO particular > order). Not only does Prince have no talent, but he also has no personality. Oh, please, schlockmeister Richie and his "commanding personality"? Give me a break! What does that have to do with musical viability? Richie's "personality" involved changing the Commodores from a fairly good funky band into a mushy refrigerator music (Move those refrigerators!) band, then walked out and left them all hight and dry!! Some "personality"! Prince has plenty of talent. Obviously you've never even heard 1999 if you noticed no similarity between Susudio and it, so you're not all that exposed to Prince's work, some of which (on 1999, for instance) is excellent. The man is trapped inside his own ego (which gives him lots of room tow work with), but he is masterful in the studio and has produced some great work. You should check out one really great album, 1999. (Purple Rain ain't so bad, either.) He's certainly better than the some of the schlockmeisters you lavished praise on above, some of whom haven't produced any real creative output in ten years. Hitler had a "commanding personality", too... -- "iY AHORA, INFORMACION INTERESANTE ACERCA DE... LA LLAMA!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr