Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Re: "YES" or great concerts. Message-ID: <1135@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Jun-85 11:11:12 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1135 Posted: Thu Jun 27 11:11:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Jun-85 01:22:15 EDT References: <5457@cbscc.UUCP> <1104@pyuxd.UUCP> <1117@peora.UUCP> <2177@ut-sally.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 47 >>> I preferred the incarnation before that when they had a drummer. >> >>You're right about that; Bill Bruford was much better than Alan White. >>White doesn't seem to have much dynamic control; often he sounds like >>he is beating on a tin pan. Bruford was very clean and precise, often >>almost military. >>-- >>Shyy-Anzr: J. Eric Roskos > What? I admit that Bill Bruford was a better drummer but he is a tough > act to follow. I know I wouldn't want to. Obviously you don't do your > homework. There is in existance an album- an album so incredible that > it's amazeing that it hasn't been given proper notice. It's called > "Tales from Topographic Oceans". And just guess who the drummer is. > That's right, Alan White. This is the album that has "Ritual" on it. > Not as creative? Hardly. [HARTSOCK] Not as creative? Precisely! (Just one man's opinion.) Carl Palmer that man is NOT, yet he felt obliged to show off as many noises and instruments playing at once as possible. I was (and still am) deeply unimpressed with White's performance there and elsewhere. However, as I mentioned in another article, Topographic might have been an even more obtuse album (even the members of the band were dissatisfied with the final execution in the mix) than it was WITHOUT White acting as an anchor. Bruford might have been fantastic on it, but it would have been even more rambling than it was with Bruford in it. "The Ancient", on the other hand, showcases the whole band very well (including White) and for me is one of the best Yes cuts of all. > Also, the "Relayer" album contained Alan White also. I'm sure you've > heard of "The Gates of Delirium". Again, I am unimpressed by most of "Relayer", but more because Moraz seemed grafted onto the band as an out-of-place appendage rather than an integrated part of it (exception: Soon). > If you listen to these albums, I'm sure you'll see the light. I hope you aren't serious in claiming that simply by listening to albums you like, people will "see the light" and agree with your opinions. I'm as entitled to my opinion that White stinks and Relayer is poor as you are to the opposite opinions. I think that from the objective angle of actual ability and real creativity, White doesn't hold a candle to Bruford, but that doesn't mean his resulting music is necessarily "worse". I've always thought that his whole style was dead wrong for Yes. -- Like a sturgeon (GLURG!), caught for the very first time... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr