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From: dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky)
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Subject: Re: DRAPERIES and stuff?????
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Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 18:49:00 EDT
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> Why should men have the monopoly on shyness?

Because it takes a lot less (um) non-shyness (assertiveness?) to
react to someone who makes the first move than to make it yourself.
In my limited experience, men are still expected to make the first
move, and women are still expected to react to it. I don't mean
that I'd feel uncomfortable about a woman starting things; on the
contrary, I'd be grateful to her for making it unnecessary for me
to do so. What I mean is that in practice, men start things alot
more often than women (By "start things" I mean initiate an
assortment of things with someone that you feel attracted to,
i.e. a conversation, a date, sex, etc).

To be more exact about how I came to this conclusion,
I've been approached a lot more often in my short lifetime (I'm 23)
by gay men than by straight women. Even in Manhattan, I think gay
men are substantially outnumbered by straight women :-). I'm also not
aware of any major difference between what is considered attractive
by gay men and by straight women. It follows, at least in my
experience, that men have been much more unshy (ouch) than women.

Any woman out there who disagrees with the above is more than
welcome to provide me with a counterexample ;-).

Isaac Dimitrovsky
allegra!cmcl2!csd2!dimitrov   (l in cmcl2 is letter l not number 1)
251 Mercer Street, New York NY 10012

Just because it's a preconceived notion doesn't mean it's wrong!