Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!savage From: savage@ssc-vax.UUCP (Lowell Savage) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Objectivism Message-ID: <36@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Jul-85 22:49:34 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.36 Posted: Tue Jul 9 22:49:34 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jul-85 09:28:34 EDT References: <625@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1310028@acf4.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace Co., Seattle, WA Lines: 32 > >/* mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) / 12:12 pm Jul 2, 1985 */ > > >Secondly, it fails to treat a third possibility: that there is in fact a > >code, but that the code is (for one reason or another) at least partly > >obscured. > > What point is there in speculating about a code that is "obscured?" What point is there in speculating about a crime that has been committed, about which there is little information, or obscure information?? What point is there in speculating about physical, chemical, biological, psychological, or social phenomena that is "obscure"?? The point is that by speculating, discussing and, where possible, formulating and executing experiments, truth may be discovered. Or perhaps, some small piece of truth may be uncovered. Since the original posting was about moral codes (whether there is some absolute moral code or not), the objection might be raised that "this is a different kind of speculation...." But it is not. If there exists some absolute moral code which has been obscured, it is still possible that certain portions have been obscured from some people, while other portions have been obscured from others. Thus by "speculating" about it in a public forum, or perhaps more accurately, DISCUSSING it in a public forum, the portions that are clear to you might become clear to me, and vice-versa (provided that I am a willing listener and an able expositer). There's more than one way to be savage Lowell Savage