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From: mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora)
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Subject: Re: Explorations of "social-interest": Back to Basics
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Date: Wed, 3-Jul-85 03:04:00 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul  3 03:04:00 1985
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>/* bob@pedsgd.UUCP (Robert A. Weiler) /  1:07 pm  Jul  1, 1985 */

>And I agree that this is the central point, we all have different
>values. But I think thats how societies get formed, people of similar
>values get together and impose those values on everyone else.

This may be how societies have typically been formed, but it does not
rule out the voluntary formation of societies because men perceive that
they will benefit by it.

>The libertarians
>are no different, they still want to impose values, just not quite
>as many.

But the libertarians attempt to impose as few restrictions as possible.
Certainly, property rights on relatively non-scarce resources do not
inconvenience anyone.  As for relatively scarce resources, that is
certainly debatable.

>Property rights come to mind. Thats why there is no large libertarian
>society, there just aint enough people with exactly those values.

You don't mean tht there aren't a lot of people who strongly desire
greater material wealth do you?

Certainly, the libertarian system
is the best one to achieve such goals, if nothing else.

>One question for the libertarians out there, how does a libertarian society
deal with seccesion?

Provided such seccesion does not include forcing anyone to go along or
violation of any contracts, I don't see any problems with it

>Suppose a large segment of the population decided
>that they would rather be socialists after all?

As long as they don't force others to go along, I can see no objection
from the libertarian point of view.  One might easily imagine an
institution like the Israeli Kibbutz existing harmoniously within a
libertarian society.  I might even join one myself.

>In particular, what happens if the workers cease the factory?

No problem, provided they don't violate any contracts.

						Mike Sykora