Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site petfe.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!petsd!petfe!evan From: evan@petfe.UUCP (Evan Marcus) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: Personal vs. Team Glory (Gary Carter) Message-ID: <367@petfe.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Jun-85 19:15:32 EDT Article-I.D.: petfe.367 Posted: Thu Jun 27 19:15:32 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Jun-85 01:55:43 EDT Organization: Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls, N.J. Lines: 38 I was watching yesterday (June 26)'s Mets-Cubs game, where the Cubs won 7-3, and Gary Carter came within 5 feet of hitting for the cycle. Unfortunately the 5 feet was how much he was out by trying to stretch a single into a double (what he needed to complete it) in the 9th inning. He was going out on a limb trying for that double, and he never should have, but I think he wanted to hit for the cycle! He was (since he was out so easily) putting his own interests first, and when he was out, it looked awful. The 2 questions I put forth for discussion are: was it (in your opinion) self- serving? and is there any time in a game when it's ok to serve one's own interests instead of the team's? I have an odd opinion of Carter. I think it's hard to dispute his playing abilities. He is undisputably one of the best catchers in baseball. (Anyone really want to argue that?) But (and I am an avid Mets fan!), I don't like him. This grandstanding fits perfectly the image of Carter I have been pieceing together all season. He talks (too) sincerely about the team's interests, and all, but I somehow don't believe him. He smiles too much. Nobody is that happy (not even a guy getting $1 million for playing a kid's game that he's great at)! Before this incident I didn't feel really justified in that distrust, it was just a gut feeling. But now, I can justify it. When the game ended, there were 2 on. If Carter had been content with a single, Heep would have batted with 1 out and bases loaded (if I recall right). They just might have pulled it out. Maybe not, but now we'll never know. Anyway, here are 3 new discussions for the newsgroup that aren't trivia or rules questions, and are more of a purist's kind of discussion. Have a good time! --Evan Marcus -- {ucbvax|decvax}!vax135!petsd!petfe!evan ...!pedsgd!pedsga!evan If this is foreplay, I'm a dead man.