Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gatech.CSNET Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gatech!royt From: royt@gatech.CSNET (Roy M Turner) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Message for peter@RICE.ARPA Message-ID: <547@gatech.CSNET> Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 13:32:24 EDT Article-I.D.: gatech.547 Posted: Fri Jul 12 13:32:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jul-85 12:47:28 EDT Reply-To: royt@gatech.UUCP (Roy M Turner) Organization: School of ICS, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Lines: 44 This was mailed to you, but the pathname in your letter didn't work, and our site doesn't recognize RICE.ARPA. So, without further ado: Well, I've worked for IBM, and used their computers, too. It's been 3 years since I quit to go back to school, so I really can't say much about what their internal computers are like these days...I would imagine that they are now as they were then, better than *most* but certainly not all of their competitors; give me a lisp machine or a pyramid anyday over a 370. And I'll certainly ceep my MacIntosh, thank you, and not buy a PC! As to I've Been Moved, I have no idea what branch of the company you worked. I have seen several people in the business side of the company moved about arbitrarily. I worked in the laboratories as a system and application programmer in support of development, and there was *no one* moved there who didn't go because of a better offer, or who didn't request a transfer. Unless the person was a consummate goof-off, or an entire facility goes to hell, I can't see that happening in that environment. Keep in mind that this is the same company that has *never* laid anyone off, not even during the depression. I have no illusions about IBM in the marketplace; I don't agree with or condone what they do to their competitors and customers. But I would stack them up against any other large company in terms of their consideration for their employees. Again, I have no idea of your circumstances, where you worked, what pissed you/them off, etc., and I really don't care to know. But keep in mind that yours isn't the only experience with them. Besides, read what I sent, eh? If you want to make jokes about a company or anything else on the net, fine and dandy; I'll join you. But net.jokes is not the place to vent one's spleen, at least not in the tacky manner the original poster did. That is for net.flame, if anywhere. I would even take exception to that if the subject had been CDC or Cybers! Roy -- Roy M Turner School of Information & Computer Science, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: royt @ GATech ARPA: royt%GATech.CSNet @ CSNet-Relay.ARPA uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!royt