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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 47)
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Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 22:06:36 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jul 11 22:06:36 1985
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In article <405@iham1.UUCP> rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) writes:
>
>     THE SCIENTIFIC CASE FOR CREATION: 116 CATEGORIES OF EVIDENCE
>
>III. (Earth Sciences): THE EARTH HAS EXPERIENCED A WORLDWIDE FLOOD.
>
>
>    B.  MANY OF THE EARTH'S PREVIOUSLY UNEXPLAINABLE FEATURES  CAN  BE
>        EXPLAINED ONLY BY THIS FLOOD.
>
>        The origin of each of the following features of the earth is a
>        subject   of  controversy  within  the  earth  sciences.  Each
>        typically  involves  numerous  hypotheses  and   unexplainable
>        aspects.  Yet  all  of  these features can be viewed as direct
>        consequences  of  a   singular   and   unrepeatable   event--a
>        cataclysmic  flood  whose  waters  burst forth from worldwide,
>        subterranean,  and  interconnected  chambers  with  an  energy
>        release  in  excess of one trillion megatons of TNT. The cause
>        and effect sequence of the events involved phenomena that  are
>        either well understood or are observable in modern times.
>
>       97.  glaciers and the ice age
>       98.  frozen mammoths
>       99.  salt domes
>      100.  continental drift
>      101.  coal formations
>      102.  mountains
>      103.  overthrusts
>      104.  extinction of the dinosaurs
>      105.  ocean trenches
>      106.  submarine canyons
>      107.  mid-oceanic ridge
>      108.  magnetic patterns of the ocean floor
>      109.  strata
>      110.  continental shelves and slopes
>      111.  submarine volcanoes and guyots
>      112.  metamorphic rock
>
	Very interesting, and totally false! There are *no* known
mechanisms by which a flood could cause all these phenonoma. At least
not without rewriting physics. The physics of flooding is *well*
understood on the basis of studies of recent floods. The sedimentology
of floods is very distinctive and easily recognized in rocks, and is
very different from the sedimentology found in most sedimentary strata!
I can not see a flood of any sort embedding alternating magnetic domains
in strips along the ocean floor in *volcanic* rocks! And so on for
most of the above points. A flood *could* have caused extinctions,
but then you must assume that *some* animals didn't make it to the
Ark, a clear contradiction to the "accepted" acount.
>
>      113.  Every major mountain range on the earth  contains  fossils
>            of sea life.

	Ditto, this is also not explainable by a flood.
>
>      114.  Practically every culture on earth has legends telling  of
>            a traumatic flood in which only a few humans survived in a
>            large boat [a].
>
	So what! Simialar cultures in similar circumstances are likely
to generate similar myths! Or do you want to argue that the similarity
of pantheons from various cultures is reason to believe in many gods?
These pantheons are often more similar to noe another than the flood
myths!(I have read a North American Indian flood myth - totally
different than the Biblical myth except in the general plot as
outlined above)
>
>      115.  The majority of the earth's mountains  were  formed  after
>            most  of  the sediments were deposited. If these mountains
>            were again flattened out  (while  the  ocean  basins  were
>            allowed  to rise in compensation for this downward flow of
>            mass), the oceans would flood the entire earth. Therefore,
>            there  is  enough  water on the earth to cover the smaller
>            mountains that existed prior to the flood.
>
	This is not evidence, merely a contrivance to make the
creation at least appear consistant. I.E it is an *assumption*.

>      116.  Seeds can still germinate after soaking for a year in salt
>            water [a].
>
	*Some* seeds can so germinate, but by no means *all*.
Germination factors vary considerably from species to species.
In fact some seeds will not germinate after a year at all.
-- 

				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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