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From: csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (csdf)
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Subject: Re: Created Yesterday
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Date: Tue, 18-Jun-85 02:29:19 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jun 18 02:29:19 1985
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In article <45200012@hpfcms.UUCP> bill@hpfcms.UUCP (bill) writes:
>>...but that the "God" model
>>is kind of boring, whereas the inductive model is deeper and more demanding.
>
>Tell me, Jim.  What makes one "model" better than another?  From what I've
>read above, complexity and effort do.  This is a faulty set of criteria,
>to say the least.

I can't speak for Jim, but the test of a model is application. For
example: Physicist Alan Guth, one of the original men behind the Big
Bang Theory has books of equations that balance out such that at the
beginning of the Universe, the could be *nothing* and (through the
Heisenberg uncertainty principle) a random quantum fluctuation could
account for *everything*. This may seem like a mindgame, and perhaps it
is, but it gives far more insight into the present state of the universe
than the 7-day idea. Perhaps your God set it up that way to show us
something? Why, if the Bible contradicts it? A test a faith, maybe?
Perhaps, but that leaves Christians with an awesome philisophical
cop-out: either something is "shown" in the Bible, or it is a test of
faith. One could say that about just about anything.

>By the way, the Bible says that God wants nothing more than to have each
>one of us not only believe in Him, but glorify and praise Him.  Perhaps
>He is intellectually stagnant too.
>
>Bill Gates

Sometimes, when I feel really good, I say to myself, "What a wonderful
world this is." Sometimes this happens when I've ingested mind-altering
substances, or when I'm engaged in pre-marital relations or all sorts of
incredibly sinful activities. Yet, this feeling is my version of
"praising God" for I am showing sincere appreciation for "His" work. Are
you seriously going to tell me that "He" is too insecure to appreciate
my "praise" unless I stop "sinning" and start praying? A being so
collosal as to defy human reason must certainly be able to see a little
deeper than that; I think intellectual stagnation applies.
-- 
Charles Forsythe
CSDF@MIT-VAX.ARPA
"Safe for now...."