Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site scgvaxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!pesnta!pertec!scgvaxd!dan From: dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (Dan Boskovich) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Re: A new voice. Message-ID: <351@scgvaxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 2-Jul-85 17:08:39 EDT Article-I.D.: scgvaxd.351 Posted: Tue Jul 2 17:08:39 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Jul-85 05:36:43 EDT References: <2156@ut-sally.UUCP> <347@scgvaxd.UUCP> <2208@ut-sally.UUCP> Reply-To: dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA Lines: 32 Summary: > > OK. All the F.L.T. says is that energy cannot be created/destroyed. > The energy content of our universe is believed to be constant,so the > only question that this brings up is where did the original energy > come from? This is not for scientists to answer. If the big bang > occured, then any knowledge of what happened before is completely > unattainable. ALL science can do is trace back as accurrately as > possible to that point. By concluding that energy must have been > CREATED by an outside force is not necessarily true(however in > all fairness of what I said above, must remain a possibility). > And besides, how do you conclude that outside force in the one > Christian God in all his glory?(Please respond directly to this > point Dan). The point here is that the Universe had a non-natural beginning. Since matter is not being created today, natural processes can not explain the origin of the Universe. For the big bang to occur there first had to be something to explode! All of this points to a supernatural beginning. It does not mean that it was the Christian God who did it. Creation science is not interested in naming the creative force, just showing that there was a creation. > > Steve's reply to this seems to be satisfactory. But again I will > restate: The fact that we can trace the universe back to a > "beginning" is in no way inconsistant with evolution, in fact > evolution requires this to be true. > Yes, but it requires a beginning that can be attributed to natural processes since it rules out the supernatural. Dan