Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!purtell From: purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Just how far can friendship go? Message-ID: <1673@reed.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Jul-85 20:13:53 EDT Article-I.D.: reed.1673 Posted: Wed Jul 10 20:13:53 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jul-85 10:09:03 EDT References: <317@azure.UUCP> <800@vax2.fluke.UUCP> <336@azure.UUCP> Reply-To: purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) Distribution: net Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 28 Summary: In article <336@azure.UUCP> chrisa@azure.UUCP (Chris Andersen) writes: >Second, by asking for this I'm not denying what I want. I don't want sex at >the expense of physical pleasure. Sex is 'OK' but physical friendship is >fantastic! And please note that physical friendship does not mean sex. >It means being able to relate to each other on a physical level as well as >a mental and spiritual level. First of all I agree with the first two sentences. I also agree with the last two sentences. Its the middle one that poses the problem. I've certainly had sexual relationships with some people that were anything but fantastic. They weren't even "OK". But that doesn't mean that sex in general is just "OK". It depends entirely on the person. Of course just because you have a good physical friendship with a person doesn't mean that you ought to sleep together, (I'd never get any sleep if I did that), but I don't think that sex is going to be too good if you can't also have a friendly physical relationship with the person. I've known people who slept together on a regular basis but never touched outside of the bedroom. It doesn't work too well. On the other hand, I've felt much much closer to some people when we were sleeping together than when we weren't. I think that it a truly fantastic experience, better than cuddling or holding hands etc. if done with the right person. elizabeth g. purtell (Lady Godiva)