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From: bsc@wuphys.UUCP (Bryan Coughlan)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Collins Bashing (Re: Genesis died ...)
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Date: Tue, 16-Jul-85 18:35:18 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 16 18:35:18 1985
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>Too bad Phil never learned how to play drums ..........
>	I enjoy Phil and Genesis much better when Phil stays in front
>of the drums and behind the mike.
>		Sam

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

You think Phil can't play drums ???

He's only one of the best rock drummers of this decade (and last ...
not just my opinion).

He's also one of the hottest producers around, and he can even write
a good song now and then.

By the way, I've been reading about how Phil "ripped off" Prince's
"1999" when he wrote "Susudio" (Not one of his best efforts!).
I've listened to both songs and am still trying to figure out
how it could be a ripoff (talk to me, Rich!). Is it ...

- a similarity between the keyboards in certain sections of
  both songs?

- the rhythms?

- verse structure?

- a confession by Phil signed in blood?

- something else?

There is a slight similarity in the keyboards and rhythm, but not
enough for me to consider plagiarism to have occurred.  The verse
structure (ABACAB :-) seems entirely different. So, how are
the two songs so alike?

A popular pastime on the net and everywhere is to criticize the
most successful performers.  In some cases, it can be justified;
they succeed by finding the lowest common denominator.  I don't
think that it is true in this case, however.  I've heard too 
many weird songs out of him (Do You Know, Do You Care, for instance)
to belive in the Phil Collins LCD theorem!

By the way, I am a fan.  I hope that didn't muddle my thinking
TOO much !
-- 

Bryan S. Coughlan            ( Yes, that's right. My first 
ihnp4!wuphys!bsc 		two initials are B.S. ! )