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From: gordon@uw-june (Gordon Davisson)
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Subject: Re: A new voice. (predictions)
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Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 09:30:45 EDT
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>[Dan Boskovich]
>The variations within species are predicted by the creation model.

Not in its orignal form.  They've been kluged in by borrowing from
evolutionary theory so as to allow horizontal evolution, like moth wings
changing color to adapt to trees darkened by pollution, but not (for some
reason) vertical evolution.  Also, the distinction between the two seems to
be clear only to creationists, and even they disagree about where the
boundary is.  What is really strange is that the one thing a lot of
creationists do agree on here is that vertical evolution involves mutations
acted on by natural selection, but horizontal evolution is just natural
selection acting on pre-existing genetic variation.  Then Dan (and he's not
the only one) goes on to say:

>It has been stated that N.S. predicts everything, therefore it predicts
>nothing.

Which, of course, means that creation doesn't predict that moths will adapt
to dark wood, or that insects will develop immunities to insecticides, or
that dogs will develop so much in-species variation.  You can't have your
cake and eat it too.

Of course, after however many thousands of years it's been, dogs are still
dogs.  And after 20 million years, all of the apes are still apes, right?
And after (what is it, 100?) million years, all the mammals are still
mammals, right?  And after...  Anyway, you get the idea.  And ah, where to
draw the line...

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