Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site iham1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!iham1!rck From: rck@iham1.UUCP (Ron Kukuk) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 46) Message-ID: <404@iham1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Jul-85 09:34:27 EDT Article-I.D.: iham1.404 Posted: Wed Jul 3 09:34:27 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Jul-85 04:20:26 EDT Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 119 THE SCIENTIFIC CASE FOR CREATION: 116 CATEGORIES OF EVIDENCE I. (Life Sciences): THE THEORY OF ORGANIC EVOLUTION IS INVALID. (See 1-36.) II. (Astronomical Sciences): THE UNIVERSE, THE SOLAR SYSTEM, AND LIFE WERE RECENTLY CREATED. (See 37-87.) III. (Earth Sciences): THE EARTH HAS EXPERIENCED A WORLDWIDE FLOOD. A. ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT NOAH'S ARK PROBABLY EXISTS [a-g]. 88. Ancient historians such as Josephus, the Jewish-Roman historian, and Berosus of the Chaldeans mentioned in their writings that the Ark existed. Marco Polo also stated that the Ark was reported to be on a mountain in greater Armenia. 89. In about 1856, a team of three skeptical British scientists and two Armenian guides climbed to Ararat to demonstrate that the Ark did not exist. The Ark was supposedly found, but the British scientists threatened to kill the guides if they reported it. Years later one of the Armenians (then living in the United States) and one of the scientists independently reported that they had actually located the Ark. 90. Sir James Bryce, a noted British scholar and traveler of the mid-nineteenth century, conducted extensive library research concerning the Ark. He became convinced that the Ark was preserved on Mount Ararat. Finally, in 1876, he ascended to the summit of the mountain and found, at the 13,000 foot level (2,000 feet above the timber line), a large piece of hand-tooled wood that he believed was from the Ark. 91. In 1883, a series of newspaper articles reported that a team of Turkish commissioners, while investigating avalanche conditions on Mount Ararat, unexpectedly came upon the Ark projecting out of the melting ice at the end of an unusually warm summer. They claimed that they entered and examined a portion of the Ark. 92. In the unusually warm summer of 1902, an Armenian boy, Georgie Hagopian, and his uncle climbed to the Ark that was reportedly sticking out of an ice pack. The boy climbed over the Ark and was able to describe it in great detail. In 1904 Hagopian visited the Ark for a second time. Shortly before his death in 1972, a tape recording was made of his detailed testimony. This recording has undergone voice analyzer tests which indicate that his account is quite credible [h]. 93. A Russian pilot, flying over Ararat in World War I (1915), thought he saw the Ark. The news of his discovery reached the Czar, who dispatched a large expedition to the site. The soldiers were able to locate and explore the boat, but before they could report back to the capitol, the Russian Revolution of 1917 had occurred. Their report disappeared, and the soldiers were scattered. Some of them eventually reached the United States. Various relatives and friends have confirmed this story. 94. At about the time of the Russian sighting, five Turkish soldiers, crossing Mount Ararat, claim to have encountered the Ark; however, they did not report their story until 30 years later when they offered to guide an American expedition to the site. The expedition did not materialize, and their services were not sought until after their deaths. 95. During World War II, a group of Russian flyers on at least two occasions took aerial photographs that showed the Ark protruding out of the ice. In Berlin after the war, these photos were shown to an American doctor who subsequently disclosed this story. 96. An oil geologist, George Greene, in 1953 took a number of photographs of the Ark from a helicopter. After returning to the United States, Greene showed his photographs to many people but was unable to raise financial backing for a ground-based expedition. Finally, he went to South America where he was killed. Although the pictures have not been located, over 30 people have given sworn written testimony that they saw these photographs that clearly showed the Ark protruding from the melting ice field at the edge of a precipice. There are many other stories in which people claim to have seen the Ark. Some are of questionable validity, and others are inconsistent with many of the known details. Only the most credible are summarized above. a) Violet M. Cummings, NOAH'S ARK: FACT OR FABLE? (San Diego: Creation-Science Research Center, 1972). b) Tim LaHaye and John D. Morris, THE ARK ON ARARAT (San Diego: Creation Life Publishers, 1976). c) John Warwick Montgomery, THE QUEST FOR NOAH'S ARK (Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany Fellowship, Inc., 1972). d) John D. Morris, ADVENTURE ON ARARAT (El Cajon, CA: Institute for Creation Research, 1973). e) Rene Noorbergen, THE ARK FILE (California: Pacific Press Publishing, 1974). f) Violet M. Cummings, HAS ANYBODY REALLY SEEN NOAH'S ARK? (San Diego: Creation Life Publishers, 1982). g) Dave Balsiger and Charles E. Sellier, Jr., IN SEARCH OF NOAH'S ARK (Los Angeles: Sun Classic Books, 1976). h) Rene Noorbergen, SECRETS OF THE LOST RACES (Indianapolis: The Bobbs-Merrill Company, 1977), p. 74-92. TO BE CONTINUED Ron Kukuk Walt Brown