Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cadovax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cadovax!keithd From: keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 47) Message-ID: <706@cadovax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 21:01:51 EDT Article-I.D.: cadovax.706 Posted: Thu Jul 11 21:01:51 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Jul-85 07:43:27 EDT References: <405@iham1.UUCP> Organization: Contel Cado, Torrance, CA Lines: 123 ............... > A. ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT NOAH'S ARK PROBABLY > EXISTS. > > B. MANY OF THE EARTH'S PREVIOUSLY UNEXPLAINABLE FEATURES CAN BE > EXPLAINED ONLY BY THIS FLOOD. First of all, I doubt very much that these are particularly 'unexplainable', second, what about the 'unexplainable' features of such a flood 'explanation'? (see previous posting; animal migrations, ark too small, etc.) > The origin of each of the following features of the earth is a > subject of controversy within the earth sciences. Each Controversy perhaps, but that usually means there are several potential 'explanations', not that it is unexplainable. > typically involves numerous hypotheses and unexplainable > aspects. Yet all of these features can be viewed as direct Most of which are less 'unexplainable' than the previously mentioned 'unexplainable aspects' of a Flood explanation. > 97. glaciers and the ice age > > 98. frozen mammoths > > 99. salt domes > > 100. continental drift > > 101. coal formations These are a little out of my area of expertise. How does the Flood explain these things? > 102. mountains This is very easily explained by 1) volcanic activity, 2) earthquake activity, etc. > 103. overthrusts This too, is explainable by the aforementioned activities. > 104. extinction of the dinosaurs This has been explained by evidence of comets 'sideswiping' the earth every 26 million years or so. > 105. ocean trenches > 106. submarine canyons > 107. mid-oceanic ridge Again, I believe these are explained by volcanic and earthquake activity, (plate tectonics (sp?)). > 108. magnetic patterns of the ocean floor > > 109. strata > > 110. continental shelves and slopes > > 111. submarine volcanoes and guyots > > 112. metamorphic rock > > (The details concerning 97-112 are the chapter titles of a > book that is in the process of being written. Unfortunately, > the length and specialized nature of each topic makes this > subject inappropriate for dialogue on net.origins. If anyone I see no particular reason to think that a worldwide flood (define that by the way, what exactly does 'worldwide' mean, did it cover ALL the land masses ?) > C. THE SEEMINGLY IMPOSSIBLE EVENTS OF A WORLDWIDE FLOOD ARE > REALLY QUITE PLAUSIBLE IF EXAMINED CLOSELY. I doubt that. > 113. Every major mountain range on the earth contains fossils > of sea life. But you don't need a worldwide flood to provide a plausible explanation. > 114. Practically every culture on earth has legends telling of > a traumatic flood in which only a few humans survived in a > large boat [a]. So? Maybe there WAS some kind of major flood, I just question whether or not it COMPLETELY covered all the land masses, and required Noah to save all the land animals. And, EVEN IF IT DID, that dosen't mean that the animals weren't evolving both before and after the flood occured. Actually, that would be a good way out of the problems of 1) ark size, and 2) animal migration, if the animals have gone through considerable evolution since then. > 115. The majority of the earth's mountains were formed after > most of the sediments were deposited. If these mountains > were again flattened out (while the ocean basins were > allowed to rise in compensation for this downward flow of > mass), the oceans would flood the entire earth. Therefore, > there is enough water on the earth to cover the smaller > mountains that existed prior to the flood. So, Gawd decided to flatten out the mountains so he wouldn't have to create excess water that he would later have to un-create? Sounds real plausible to me. > 116. Seeds can still germinate after soaking for a year in salt > water [a]. That's it? That's you're explanation of how plants survived through the flood? What did the herbivores eat while waiting for these seeds to grow? What did the carnivores eat while waiting for the population to grow? Plausible to the point of caricature. Keith Doyle # {ucbvax,ihnp4,decvax}!trwrb!cadovax!keithd