Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site phri.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!timeinc!phri!lonetto From: lonetto@phri.UUCP (Michael Lonetto) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Re RAPE, not Women/men and the consumption of toilet paper Message-ID: <322@phri.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 23:40:01 EDT Article-I.D.: phri.322 Posted: Thu Jul 11 23:40:01 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jul-85 11:25:32 EDT References: <464@ttidcc.UUCP> <465@gitpyr.UUCP> <2345@topaz.ARPA> <> <739@udenva.UUCP> <526@ttidcc.UUCP> Organization: Public Health Research Inst. (NY, NY) Lines: 34 > In article <739@udenva.UUCP> ttorgers@udenva.UUCP (Troy Torgerson) writes: > > ... In the four years > >of being on campus, I don't recall one single incident of rape. Even > >if I forgot (I don't forget things that easy), there weren't enough to > >be a problem. > > How many incidents of rape does it take to be a problem? I'd think one > would be more than enough. During the times I was at both college and graduate school both schools had problems with rape. In both cases the problems had been there for several years and I believe they are still there. In Princeton women organized and protested by assembling at night and marching across campus to "Take Back the Night." At each school the 5-6 reported rapes each year appeared to be due to at most 2-3 individuals, yet only 2 rapists were apprehended in the 7 years I spent at these campuses, and in each case it had a small to nil effect on the number of rapes on and near campus. While rape may be an an extension of classical male attitudes towards women, I don't really believe that. I think these people were really sick puppies. One man ran a woman down with his car (she was on a bicycle), claimed he hadn't seen her, offered to drive her to the hospital, put her in his car, raped her, and dumped her by the side of the road. It is really aggravating and frustrating to see ones friends frightend into extremely restricted lifestyles at a time when their minds are expanding because of the presence of a couple of sickos. What is effective defense/treatment/progress/etc for problems like these? -- ____________________ Michael Lonetto Public Health Research Institute, 455 1st Ave, NY, NY 10016 (allegra!phri!lonetto) Do you think it's REAL?