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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
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Subject: Re: Fetus = living organism (?????)
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Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 10:13:07 EDT
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>>> Fetuses are living organisms of OUR species. 

>>If you take it out and it ceases to function, it wasn't a
>>living thing, it was still a fetus in a parasitic stage of development.

>   By "ceases to function" I assume you mean DIE, or would that be 
> 	sensational retoric on my part?

It sure would be!  To "die" a thing would first have to have been alive,
right?  Use of that term as just as sensationalistic as Samuelson's "Look
what they do to the 'dead' 'babies'" propaganda.

> Is it my terminal, or is this just a stupid argument?

Rather than asserting that my argument is stupid (which doesn't necessarily
make it so despite your best wishes), you might try attempting to show where
the fallacies are in that argument.

>  My grandmother would
>   cease to function if we stopped caring for her -- and I'll beat you silly
>   if you call her a fetus.

Pardon me, but I assume your grandmother is and has been alive.  A fetus is
not.  Let's get this quite straight:  neither allowing a fetus to grow to
term inside your body (assuming you're a woman) nor deciding that you don't
want your insides used for that purpose is wrong, right, correct, incorrect,
or whatever adjective you want to put on it.  The point is it is up to the
person whose body we are talking about. (Undoubtedly this will lead to
more sensationalist rhetoric of the genre "What about the 'person' inside?"
and so on.  That's always the case that sensationalism and emotionalism
are resorted to when there is no more logical ammunition to be fired.)
-- 
Like a vermin (HEY!), shot for the very first time...
			Rich Rosen   ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr