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From: keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: The Scientific Case for Creation: (Part 47)
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Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 21:01:51 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jul 11 21:01:51 1985
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>    A.  ARCHAEOLOGICAL EVIDENCE INDICATES  THAT  NOAH'S  ARK  PROBABLY
>        EXISTS.
>
>    B.  MANY OF THE EARTH'S PREVIOUSLY UNEXPLAINABLE FEATURES  CAN  BE
>        EXPLAINED ONLY BY THIS FLOOD.

First of all, I doubt very much that these are particularly 'unexplainable',
second, what about the 'unexplainable' features of such a flood 'explanation'?
(see previous posting; animal migrations, ark too small, etc.)

>        The origin of each of the following features of the earth is a
>        subject   of  controversy  within  the  earth  sciences.  Each

Controversy perhaps, but that usually means there are several potential
'explanations', not that it is unexplainable.

>        typically  involves  numerous  hypotheses  and   unexplainable
>        aspects.  Yet  all  of  these features can be viewed as direct

Most of which are less 'unexplainable' than the previously mentioned
'unexplainable aspects' of a Flood explanation.

>       97.  glaciers and the ice age
>
>       98.  frozen mammoths
>
>       99.  salt domes
>
>      100.  continental drift
>
>      101.  coal formations

These are a little out of my area of expertise.  How does the Flood explain
these things?

>      102.  mountains

This is very easily explained by 1) volcanic activity, 2) earthquake activity,
       etc.

>      103.  overthrusts

This too, is explainable by the aforementioned activities.

>      104.  extinction of the dinosaurs

This has been explained by evidence of comets 'sideswiping' the earth every
26 million years or so.

>      105.  ocean trenches

>      106.  submarine canyons

>      107.  mid-oceanic ridge

Again, I believe these are explained by volcanic and earthquake activity,
(plate tectonics (sp?)).

>      108.  magnetic patterns of the ocean floor
>
>      109.  strata
>
>      110.  continental shelves and slopes
>
>      111.  submarine volcanoes and guyots
>
>      112.  metamorphic rock
>
>        (The details concerning 97-112 are the  chapter  titles  of  a
>        book  that is in the process of being written.  Unfortunately,
>        the length and specialized nature of  each  topic  makes  this
>        subject  inappropriate for dialogue on net.origins.  If anyone

I see no particular reason to think that a worldwide flood (define that by
the way, what exactly does 'worldwide' mean, did it cover ALL the land masses
?)

>    C.  THE SEEMINGLY IMPOSSIBLE  EVENTS  OF  A  WORLDWIDE  FLOOD  ARE
>        REALLY QUITE PLAUSIBLE IF EXAMINED CLOSELY.

I doubt that.

>      113.  Every major mountain range on the earth  contains  fossils
>            of sea life.

But you don't need a worldwide flood to provide a plausible explanation.

>      114.  Practically every culture on earth has legends telling  of
>            a traumatic flood in which only a few humans survived in a
>            large boat [a].

So?  Maybe there WAS some kind of major flood, I just question whether or
not it COMPLETELY covered all the land masses, and required Noah to save
all the land animals.  And, EVEN IF IT DID, that dosen't mean that the
animals weren't evolving both before and after the flood occured.  Actually,
that would be a good way out of the problems of 1) ark size, and 2)
animal migration, if the animals have gone through considerable evolution
since then.

>      115.  The majority of the earth's mountains  were  formed  after
>            most  of  the sediments were deposited. If these mountains
>            were again flattened out  (while  the  ocean  basins  were
>            allowed  to rise in compensation for this downward flow of
>            mass), the oceans would flood the entire earth. Therefore,
>            there  is  enough  water on the earth to cover the smaller
>            mountains that existed prior to the flood.

So, Gawd decided to flatten out the mountains so he wouldn't have to
create excess water that he would later have to un-create?  Sounds
real plausible to me.

>      116.  Seeds can still germinate after soaking for a year in salt
>            water [a].

That's it?   That's you're explanation of how plants survived through
the flood?  What did the herbivores eat while waiting for these seeds
to grow?  What did the carnivores eat while waiting for the population
to grow?  Plausible to the point of caricature.

Keith Doyle
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