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From: jmd@rduxb.UUCP (Joseph M. Dakes)
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Subject: Re: noisy kids in restaurants... (and KIDS)
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Date: Tue, 9-Jul-85 10:52:51 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul  9 10:52:51 1985
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> First, there seemed to be two distinct sets of kids; the trendies,
> and (groan) the headbangers.  I can take the trendies, at least
> they dress nice, ...

Sounds like the two distinct sets of kids you're talking about are the ones
you approve of and the ones you're appalled by.

> Another thing I noticed was the girls.  Why is it that they seem to
> like sneering, menacing, long-(greasy)-haired guys.  The girls are
> usually tastefully (in a leathery sense) dressed.  Their hair is
> washed (and brushed) and some seem like they actually have a brain.
> The guys are quite another matter.  First of all, they all wear
> black (with white sleeve) concert shirts bearing the name of some
> heavy-metal band, blue jeans, a leather jacket, and they all smoke.
> Not to mention they all hang out in the numerous pin-ball joints
> that downtown Kitchener abounds with.

Oooh oooh (say using sissified voice for best effect) the boys all wear
shirts with those disgusting heavy metal bands printed all over them
and oh, blue jeans of all things and ooh, leather and they smoke too.
So fuckin' what?  What do you wear?  Striped alligator shirts with plaid
pants.  Who cares what people wear?  To judge people just because of the
clothes they wear is pretty asinine.  As for hanging out in pin-ball
joints (arcades) quite a few executive/engineer/etc. types are known to
spend many a lunch hour in such places.  Oooh oooh, (back to sissified 
voice) well at least they dress nice.

> I'm probably sounding pretty righteous, aren't I, well so what.
> What the hell is it with kids (or *IS* it parents) that they can't
> take some pride in at least looking human.  I'm only twenty
> years old (Haha, i'll bet you thought i was middle-aged) and I
> can't stand even being on the same bus as the little cretans.
> They bother me, and yes, they are menacing-looking.  

So you're only 20.  Well, I feel pretty sorry for you for being that young
yet having such a closed-minded, asinine attitude.  But hey, your still
young and there may be some hope for you.

> Doubtless, most of these spotted horrors will in the future become
> honest, hard-working individuals who will buy colour television sets
> and the rest of the rigamarole associated with leading plebian existances.
> But in the meantime, they are a bunch of lazy-stupid kids who have
> no imagination to do anything else other than follow the 
> big-mouthed leader.  What really gets me is the parents who bitch about
> little johnny-duh-m-shit not being able to get any sort of job.
> NO BLOODY WONDER when he looks like some reprobate from a prison
> camp.  I wouldn't hire him. 

True, people change with time (see there is hope for you) and most twisted
sisters will grow up to be engineers, accountants, etc.  As for being lazy
good for nothings now, how do you know?  What wonderful wisdom do you have
to be able to look at the way a person dresses and be able to tell his worth.
I guess you'd have said the same thing about me and my friends when we were
in high school (I'm now 24).  We wore blue jeans, concert shirts, had long
hair, played our guitars with the Marshalls set on 10 and had no worries in
the world (ah, the good ole days).  Then came time for school choir, we could
sing better than anyone.  School plays, we played the music.  School dances,
we provided free entertainment.  School parties, we provided the beer, etc.
I don't think I was worthless and I doubt if any of the headbangers today are
as worthless as you might try to lead us to believe.  They're just doing
their own thing and having fun at it.  So why don't you try to have a little
fun instead of going around harping on kids who don't meet your standards and
preaching your righteous bullshit.

> Here's a summary of the conversation I had with my friend:
> Colin:  Dave, it's midnight, don't they have school???
> Dave:   School's out for the summer !!
> Colin:  Oh fuck...
> Something is seriously wrong when *I* start saying things like that...

You're right you do have something seriously wrong with you.

> cheers,  
> Colin Biggin
> University of Waterloo

						Joseph M. Dakes
						AT&T Bell Laboratories
						Reading, PA
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