Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site iham1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!iham1!gjphw From: gjphw@iham1.UUCP (wyant) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Comments on: The Scientific Case for Creation (Part C) Message-ID: <409@iham1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Jul-85 14:58:20 EDT Article-I.D.: iham1.409 Posted: Wed Jul 10 14:58:20 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Jul-85 01:46:54 EDT Distribution: net Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 58 79. The moon should have a very thick layer of dust. This is related to point 75 dealing with dust accumulation on the Earth. One of the contributors to A. Montagu's book *Science and Creationism* showed how the creationist author purposely picked through old discussions, ignoring more recent estimates, to support an argument for a young solar system. The original Scientific American author was even referenced out of context in order to arrive at the thick dust estimate (the uncertainty was ignored). 82. Jupiter and Saturn are radiating more energy than they receive. Yes, Jupiter and Saturn appear to be radiating more energy in the far infrared than they are receiving from the sun. The article then lists the major energy sources for proto-suns, and proceeds to assert that this excess radiated energy comes from cooling off. What happened to these planets that they must cool off? What generated the original heat? Surely creation is not a heat generating process! 85. The sun is shrinking by 0.1% per century. This item was just breaking when I finished graduate school. There was discussion about its effects on the Earth's climate and if some terrestrial evidence might be found to support or refute the shrinking sun claims. Some of the early problems included establishing the magnitude of the effect, and disentangling it from different observational techniques and the Earth's recession from the sun. Anyone have more recent information? 88-95. Support for the existence of Noah's Ark. While not possessing any evidence one way or another concerning the existence and location of Noah's Ark, the references that were provided are of the same style as descriptions of the Yeti and Bigfoot. All of these may exist, but they have proven very difficult to document and record clearly. 97. Glaciers and the ice age are better explained by a flood. There is evidence for a series of ice ages. Does that mean that this evidence also provides support for several worldwide floods? 104. Extinction of the dinosaurs are better explained by a flood. However, a flood does not explain the simultaneous extinction of marine life at the time of the dinosaur extinctions. With evidence of several mass life extinctions, I am intrigued by the possibility of periodic catastrophes such as large meteoric impacts at 26-33 million year intervals. 114. Practically every culture has flood legends. An additional example of the same logical fallacy: A million flies can't be wrong. Eat manure! (To be continued) Patrick Wyant AT&T Bell Laboratories (Naperville, IL) *!iham1!gjphw