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From: zubbie@ihlpl.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck)
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Subject: Re: Women/men and the consumption of toilet paper
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Date: Fri, 28-Jun-85 13:42:23 EDT
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> 
> [jeanette]
> >> I know many very sensitive men but even they fall down when it comes to 
> >> copong with the understanding of what women face every time they go out
> >> the door. *(and sometimes even if they dont)*
> [sarah]
> >I really doubt that rape is something any man can truly understand.  I also
> >think you're exagerating the threat of rape a great deal.  I'm sorry you feel
> >you have to face that threat "every time [you] go out the door."  I don't.
> >Maybe it has something to do with where I live.  
> 
> Maybe I'm wrong, but my impression was not that jeanette was concerned
> with rape.  Rather the phrase "every time they go out the door" seemed
> to be meant to compare the experience women in our culture/society as
> opposed to men.  At least I hope she wasn't referring to rape.
> 
> BTW where DO you live?
> *  Steven List @ Benetics Corporation, Mt. View, CA

Jeanette here:

I live in Beloit,Wisconsin and while in the area I live currently rape
has been uppermost in consideration because of a nut that has been
runnig loose inthe area that had nothing to do with the lines quoted
above. Perhaps that other parts of the posting  dealt with rape and
also other posting I have made.
Steve was more correct in his interpretation of what I meant at
the time I made the posting.
I grew up in and around Chicago before moving and living all over
the US at one time or another.
I live where I do now for a variety of reasons non of which is the
sexual freedom of the area. Beloit is a semi-industrial semi-
agricultural area on the Illinois-Wisonsin border. Being more
than a little way from areas like Chicago or Milwaukee (Rockford
is 15 miles away) the attitude toward women is perhaps a little 
less than admirable at times and a woman alone faces not just
sexual dangers but real sexual prejudice in just existing.

	I was unemployed for almost 14 months during which
time I fortunately was able tolive with friends since single women
in the county are not eligable for general relief housing assistance
as men are. If I had a child or was pregnant however thatwas another 
story as ADC takes care of that. The best I could hope for
was $65.00 a month in food stamps which would have to be paid
back as soon as I found a job.

	A friend of mine tried to get insurance on her car but the
insurance companies (3 of them before she said to hell with it) 
refused to consider her for low cost insurance because her husband had a
marginal driving record (2 tickets in 6 months after 12 years without
a single violation)

jeanette l. zobjeck
ihnp4!ihlpl!zubbie


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