Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-spice.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-spice!tdn From: tdn@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA (Thomas Newton) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Rosensoap Message-ID: <388@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA> Date: Thu, 11-Jul-85 02:59:52 EDT Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-s.388 Posted: Thu Jul 11 02:59:52 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Jul-85 06:50:26 EDT Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 15 > Human beings are alive. Living organisms of OUR species, whose rights we > respect. Fetuses (funny you forgot to bring them up) are not. You're claiming that for a person to be a human being, his/her rights must be respected by the society in which s/he lives? By this definition, blacks in the Old South, Jews in Nazi Germany, and dissidents in the Soviet Union are not human beings. Fetuses ARE living organisms of our species, i.e. human beings. It is true that we do not respect their rights, but that does not make them less human. Gee, a perfect justification for every crime! When the police catch up with a murderer, s/he can claim that the person s/he murdered was not a human being. And why was this person not a human being? Because the murderer clearly did not respect his/her rights!! See any resemblance to "Catch-22"?