Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site persci.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!houxm!mtuxo!mtunh!mtung!mtunf!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tikal!cholula!persci!bill From: bill@persci.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Handgun control (again) Message-ID: <228@persci.UUCP> Date: Fri, 12-Jul-85 19:05:24 EDT Article-I.D.: persci.228 Posted: Fri Jul 12 19:05:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Jul-85 14:40:39 EDT References: <484@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <> <493@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Reply-To: bill@persci.UUCP (Bill Swan) Organization: Personal Scientific, Woodinville WA Lines: 28 Summary: In article <343@mit-vax.UUCP> csdf@mit-vax.UUCP (Charles Forsythe) writes: >In article <2615@topaz.ARPA> josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) writes: >>a) the use of guns (specifically handguns) in crime is a tiny percentage >> (~0.01%) of all handgun use in the US. The current black market is >> many times the volume needed to support criminal use. >Maybe where you live. He lives in the United States. What fairy-tale land are you living in? >[...] >My only possible response at this point is that I realize handguns, and >guns in general, are so much a part of this country that most people >couldn't imagine a world without them. Japan has some of the stricktest >gun control laws in the world and the lowest murder-by-firearms rate to >go with it. Perhaps JoSH can fly over and start a black market. >Charles Forsythe >CSDF@MIT-VAX >"The Church of Fred has yet to come under attack. > No one knows about it." > -Rev. Wang Zeep Perhaps Mr. Forsythe should study the social situation of Japan, particularly as regards criminals, as well as Japan's prison system, before he makes remarks like the above. Certainly the stuff is available (look at all the trouble at Narita (sp?) airport), it is just not acceptable *at all* to break the law there. There is no such thing as "completely rehabilitated" there. In fact, the stigma extends on down the generations. -- Bill Swan {ihnp4,decvax,allegra,...}!uw-beaver!tikal!persci!bill