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From: jrn@dcl-cs.UUCP (John R Nicol)
Newsgroups: net.lan,net.research
Subject: New Group Request (DOS) FEEDBACK
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Date: Tue, 25-Jun-85 21:55:18 EDT
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In response to my orginal "New Group Request (Distributed Operating Systems)"
article (see immediately below), here is a sample of some of the feedback that 
I have received over the last couple of weeks.

>    I am a member of a distributed operating systems research group based at
>Lancaster University, U.K.  Since October 1983, the group has been designing
>a distributed operating system called COSMOS.
>    COSMOS exhibits a high degree of logical coupling and is designed to 
>operate in a lan (local area network) based environment.
>    Would any other research workers/teams in the same field be interested
>in setting up a new group (e.g. net.research.opsys) through which we would
>be able to cooperate with each other by the mutual sharing of research 
>experience etc? If so, we would be happy to hear from you.

*************************** F E E D B A C K ********************************

Organisation:  VU Informatica, Amstderdam
Sender:	cognito%uucp.tjalk%uk.ac.ukc%uucp.kcl-cs@ic-jlab

We have our own experimental DOS, called Amoeba, up-and-running over here.
Our own group consists of Andrew S. Tanenbaum, Sape Mullender, Henri Bal and me.
I would like to know of other DOS's and their problems, and maybe share some
of our own. Such a newsgroup could be very helpful.


Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Original-Sender: chuckw 
Sender: chuckw%uucp.babel%ukc@icdoc
Status: R

	Count me in - I too have been working on a distributed OS
	for over three years.  I would enjoy a newsgroup that
	discusses the issues, but I don't feel it is possible using
	a 'public' newsgroup.  Why not just a private mailing list
	with the public knowing that there is such a mailing list
	available?  This is much better since a lot of mail going
	over the network is just trash.


Organization: MIT Project Athena
Sender: jc%uucp.mit-athena%uk.ac.ukc%uucp.kcl-cs@ic-jlab

Hi!  Include me in your list of interested people.

In case anyone is interested, I've been using a distributed OS of
my own for about a year.  It's lots of fun to build one, isn't it?
I'll give you some of my ideas (and code) if you'll give me some
of yours.


Organization: Conic group, Dept of Computing, Imperial College, London.

The Conic group at Imperial is also working in the same area, and 
would be glad to exchange views and results.

Members:-  Morris Sloman, Jeff Kramer, Jeff Magee,
	   kevin Twidle, Naranker Dulay, Alan Dempster,


Organisation: University of Maryland, Computer Science Dept.
Original Sender: "tove.arpa!mark" 
Sender:	mark%tove.arpa%uucp.seismo%ukc@icdoc

Setting up the new group sounds excellent to me.


From: Omur Tasar 
Status: RO

That is an excellent idea. I am a DEC engineer resident at Stanford 
working on the V distributed operating system. We are currently porting
V to microvax based workstations and having lots of fun I must admit.
Let me know how this "network news" will work.


From: Mark Davoren 
Subject: distributed OSs (Edinburgh)

....... but I certainly want to speak to people in the field at a more 
in depth level than is usually found in news. Net.research.opsys would 
allow me to make contact with other researchers in this area.

I am very interested in what is happening in the UK in doss and I would 
like to know more about the work you are doing.

******** A  SUGGESTION FROM THE GROUP MODERATOR FOR net.research (?) ******
******** Gene "3 months and holding" Spafford *****************************

Organization: The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech

The Clouds project is addressing some of the same goals (and more).
We would be interested in communicating with others about this field
of study, but I don't think it would require a separate newsgroup.
This kind of thing should fit within net.research (which isn't used
much), or we can do it by setting up a mailing list.

If there is a lot of sustained traffic, then we can create a
new newsgroup.  Lets establish a definite need first.

*************	WHAT TO DO NEXT?  ***************

It seems to me that their is sufficient interest in the new group proposal
to give it a try. However, as suggested above the other two main alternatives
are:

	i) Use net.research as a starting point (which I feel is preferable
	   to ii).....), and

	ii) Set up some form of private mailing list. The idea is that this
	    list could be made public and any new interested parties could
	    then join the list. (The disadvantages of this suggestion are:
	    the problem of "advertising" the list in the right places so that
	    people are aware of it, and the higher probability of 
	    sub-mailing lists taking over from the original "well-known" one).

Well, these are the options - which one do we go for?
As soon as a decision is made, we can start to take greater advantage of the
network!

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