Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site usl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!akgub!usl!jih From: jih@usl.UUCP (Juha I. Heinanen) Newsgroups: net.emacs Subject: Re: Permission Message-ID: <570@usl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Jun-85 09:38:43 EDT Article-I.D.: usl.570 Posted: Mon Jun 24 09:38:43 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Jun-85 03:04:04 EDT References: <4486@mit-eddie.UUCP> <2334@sun.uucp> Reply-To: jih@usl.UUCP (Juha I. Heinanen) Distribution: net Organization: USL, Lafayette, LA Lines: 33 Summary: The discussion about various permits to distribute Unix based software brought to my mind the days when I filled applications for educational licenses for Unix Versions 6 and 7. I still clearly remember that in order to get such a license I had to state in the application that the machine will be used for teaching and research purposes only and that the results of the research (including the code) had to be made publicly available. The impression I got was that development of commercial software and an educational license don't mix and that if we were ever going to sell any of our code, the very first line of it had to be written on a purely commercial machine. Have the things changed since those days? Is it now ok to charge more than a handling fee or to sumbit the software to a commercial distributor such as Unipress in order to add value to it? If not, I would like to know how many purely commercial 4.x Unix systems CMU had when James wrote his Emacs and which one he used; or maybe he really did all the development in a company down the street? What about Amsterdam Compiler Kit, another product of Unipress whose early versions were distributed for a nominal cost by EUUG? I have nothing againsts James or the folks at Amsterdam and I very well understand their motives in submitting the whole thing to a company that frees them from the hassle and maybe even improves the product. But IF the software was developed on a machine with an educational Unix license, can the company be nothing else than a distributor of public domain software? (Henry, are you listening this group?) -- Juha Heinanen USL, P.O. Box 44330, Lafayette, LA 70504-433, tel. (318)231-5345 UUCP: {ut-sally, akgua}!usl!jih ARPA: usl!jih@ut-sally