Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!mhuxn!ihnp4!ihlpl!zubbie From: zubbie@ihlpl.UUCP (Jeanette Zobjeck) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Make vs. Rape Message-ID: <184@ihlpl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 28-Jun-85 14:37:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlpl.184 Posted: Fri Jun 28 14:37:18 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Jun-85 04:19:45 EDT References: <893@druxo.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 59 > > I know this is several weeks old, but would someone explain to me the > difference between "making someone have sex" and "rape"...I thought that > rape is "making" someone have sex... > > Nancy Parsons > AT&T ISL The difference is obvious: Making someone have sex with you implies that they still consent to the sexual **congress** even though they might much rather be in Pittsburgh at the time. (;-) (unless they are already in Pittsburgh that is) RAPE is violently FORCING a sexual act on a persons body regardless of age, sex objecttion, resistance or any other concern of the person being raped. While rape usually involves some kind of sexually related action there is no sex involved (Where sex is defined as the act of sexual coupling). Maybe the difference seems very fine and perhaps even arbitrary the semantics involved only help to confuse the issue. It is very difficult to define an act or concept or anything at all when the key words used in the thing to be described appear in the definition as well. ie pastel red is a color which is less red than the normally thought of color red. Poor choice of example perhaps but mabe it gets the point accross if you think of is as: Rape is a violently sexual act which involves sex as the means which one person uses to exhibit dominance over another. Although sex is used on both sides each use has a totally different meaning which is not inherantly obvious at first reading. This seems to have been the source of many misunderstood postings dealing with the concept that rape is violence not sex. jeanette l. zobjeck ihnp4!ihlpl!zubbie ================================================================================ These are my opinions! I worked for them and I intend to enjoy them. Handle carefully or else someone might think they are yours also. ================================================================================ ~~~ (o o) ************************* |WMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWM /MWMW| * TO HELL WITH THE DOG * |MWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMW | WMWM| * -*-*-*-*-*-*- * _________I_I________|/_____ * WATCH OUT FOR THE * * OWNER * *************************