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From: bob@pedsgd.UUCP (Robert A. Weiler)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: Libertarians in Space
Message-ID: <181@pedsgd.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 10-Jul-85 11:39:32 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jul 10 11:39:32 1985
Date-Received: Fri, 12-Jul-85 00:47:38 EDT
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Reply-To: bob@pedsgd.UUCP (Robert A. Weiler)
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In article <2380082@acf4.UUCP> mms1646@acf4.UUCP (Michael M. Sykora) writes:
>>/* bob@pedsgd.UUCP (Robert A. Weiler) /  3:46 pm  Jun 29, 1985 */
>
>>Its not the fact that the assumptions of Libertarians about
>>human behaviour might be wrong, its the fact that they might
>>be right that scares the bejesus out a me. I, for one, dont want to
>>live in a society which has elevated greed to be its highest virtue.
>
>So even if the libertarian system would work best, i.e., give people
>what they want most, you would forcefully impose your subjective
>views on everyone else, right?
>
>Just wanted to make sure I understood you correctly.
>
>						Mike Sykora

No, you didnt. My speculation is that given the type of individual
postulated by libertarians, in a Libertarian society ( as described on
the net ), would result in great benifit to a few at the expense of
nearly everyone else. I cant prove it. I infer this from my observation
of real people and from reading history. I repeat, I cant prove it.
Actually, im a litte embarassed about the my original positng; I had so
wanted to avoid the typical kneejerk net reaction style, but its so
contagious. And a confession. I had at one time considered registering
to vote as a Libertarian, but thought about it for a while, and decided
that if we could count on people behaving rationally, then anarchy
seem preferable. Why have any overhead at all? So I registered as an
independent instead.  Now lets try to start a new debate, how bout this:

1) Three branches of government - War department, Economics Department,
   Sociology Department. Each branch passes legistation by majority
   vote which must be ratified by the other departments.

2) All government officials are selected by some formula including
   competive examination, psycological profile, self-made success, etc.
   Each official is tested annually. Anyone can request an examintaion.
   Actuall criteria to be decided by usenet :-)

3) Compensation for office is similar to what they could earn in industry.

4) Severe penalties for graft.

I await your scorn. bob.