Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Logic based on different sets of assumptions (part 2 of 2) Message-ID: <5201@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sun, 10-Mar-85 16:17:18 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5201 Posted: Sun Mar 10 16:17:18 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Mar-85 16:17:18 EST References: <589@pyuxd.UUCP> <4898@cbscc.UUCP> <4899@cbscc.UUCP>, <390@cybvax0.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 33 From Mike Huybensz: The dishonest thing about all this is that here is where Occam's razor should properly be applied, not as in all the places in the previous note where Paul tried to misapply it. Paul overlooks the Allah proposition, the Buddha proposition, the Brahma/Vishnu/Shiva proposition and a zillion others just like his. What all those "propositions" have in common, is an assumption of one or more deities. These propositions do *not* have this in common. You have Rich Rosen's disease. I know a good many Hindus and even more Buddhists who would be appalled that you consider either the Buddha, or Brahma/Vishnu/Shiva deities. I know fewer Moslems, but those I know would claim that Paul's God and Allah are *exectly* *the* *same* God and so he is not ignoring their ``propositions'' -- merely the revelation of the Koran, which is, of course, a very serious mistake -- rather much like the mistake both Moslems and Christians agree that the Jews made in ignoring the revelation of the New Testament. These "propositions" all share the "natural flow" with the scientific viewpoint. Things happen -- that is the natural flow. These "propositions" just use a diety to power or direct the happenings. Thus, the diety is an excess assumption. It may exist, but it gives no more explanatory power. Excuse me, but things do not happen. If you think that they do you are stuck up to your ears in maya. When you finally understand that things do not exist and thus do not happen, then you will be a lot closer to enlightenment. In the meantime, how about not misprepresenting Buddhism, okay? Laura Creighton utzoo!laura