Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site plus5.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!plus5!eric From: eric@plus5.UUCP (Eric W. Kiebler) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: VAX clustering and U{n,ltr}ix Message-ID: <643@plus5.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-Mar-85 18:14:21 EST Article-I.D.: plus5.643 Posted: Mon Mar 11 18:14:21 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 12-Mar-85 09:18:05 EST References: <1134@godot.UUCP> <3773@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1388@hao.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Plus Five Computer Services, St. Louis Lines: 46 > > > It [...] appears DEC no longer sells the documentation necessary for > > > writing drivers for these things [CI/SC008/HSC50]. > > > > If this is true (the "appears" alleviates the scare somewhat), then I > > think DEC is making a Big Mistake. I like DEC equipment partly because > > I have these little manuals I can flip through. It's hard to have too > > much documentation [though VMS perhaps succeeds here :-)]. The best > > argument I can give for my opinion is "if we don't know enough about it, > > we aren't going to buy it". > > > > Are you listening, DEC? > > Another "unavailable" manual is the UDA50 Programmer's Kit -- makes it > impossible to interpret the MSCP packet dumps that the 4.2 UDA driver > is fond of spitting out on the console. Our field service rep has agreed > to accidently leave one at our site. > -- > --peter gross > UUCP: {hplabs,seismo}!hao!pag > CSNET: pag@ncar.csnet > ARPA: pag%ncar@csnet-relay.arpa These folks are right. I just spent a bunch of customer's money on my time because: 1) The ULTRIX-11 driver protoype code was wrong 2) DEC said "So pay $270/month software maintenance for a $10K Machine" 3) The damn rq controller doesn't pass bus grant through, and has to be the last board on the q-bus. 4) DEC OEM said "Oh Gee, we don't know anything about that. If you find out let us know, okay?" They are a university site, and if they had been aware of a 2.9 driver for the MSCP disks on the MIcro-11, they would have switched right then and there. So, if anyone knows of such a driver, would they send me a pointer please? Thanks! Cheers, eric -- ..!ihnp4!wucs!plus5!eric ..!ihnp4!plus5!eric (314) 725-9492