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From: dan@scgvaxd.UUCP (Dan Boskovich)
Newsgroups: net.flame,net.religion
Subject: Re: A kudos for humanism
Message-ID: <273@scgvaxd.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 26-Feb-85 21:55:18 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb 26 21:55:18 1985
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Summary: 

In article <280@ihu1m.UUCP> gadfly@ihu1m.UUCP (Gadfly) writes:
>
>Humanism posits a reality--out there--that man can aspire to
>know *irrespective* of any states of grace.   He who would
>crush humanism mutters that Galileo got off too easy, and spits
>on Copernicus, Vesalius, Newton, DaVinci, and Descartes.
>

Not neccesarily so, considering Newton was also what we would call
according to today's terminology, a fundamentalist Christian.
In fact, Newtom would probably be offended by your statement, being
a great admirer of Galileo and Copernicus. Newton, and many others
who share his religious convictions, will agree that one can aspire
to great knowledge *irrespective* of any state of grace, however,
as Proverbs tell us, there is knowledge, and there is wisdom! The
ancient Hebrew saw a distinction between the two. He saw wisdom as the
ability to appropiate in ones life THE DEVINE PRINCIPLES so as to
improve ones quality of life before God and man! This wisdom, of course,
is *irrespective* of any human knowledge! Hence, the biblical statement;
The Beginning of Wisdom is knowing God!