Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utcsri.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!west From: west@utcsri.UUCP (Thomas L. West) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Survey: Six Pack as unit of meas Message-ID: <859@utcsri.UUCP> Date: Sun, 10-Mar-85 21:47:21 EST Article-I.D.: utcsri.859 Posted: Sun Mar 10 21:47:21 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Mar-85 22:15:48 EST References: <85@pbear.UUCP> <8314@watarts.UUCP> Reply-To: west@utcsri.UUCP (Thomas L. West) Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto Lines: 31 Summary: >> Yes, I plead the fifth to drinking and driving, but the problem is >> what is the definition of "drinking". Is the a glass of wine, a shot of >> tequila, a six pack, a case ??? Where do you draw the line ??? I have >> consumed a few beers and have driven, all without any ill side effects. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yet. The legal dividing line (in Ontario, anyway) is .08%. On the other hand, you can be charged with impaired driving with any level of alcahol if you show signs of impairment (logical enough). The moral dividing line is much simpler. Zero. As in none at all. If you wish to put your life, and much more importantly, the life of possible victims on the line by decreasing your driving abilities with alcahol or other substances, then you are certainly being completely irresponsible. I hope that your drinking and driving days are long over. However, I am still rather frightened to find that the attitude towards drinking and driving isn't complete condemnation. Perhaps the attitude in the States is a little more relaxed. I sincerely believe that the penalty for impaired driving should be loss of licence for at least 5 years. Those whose livelihood depends on driving are the ones who should know how dangerous it is. There are no mitigating circumstances. They survive well enough in parts of Europe where the legal limit *is* 0%, why can't we? As an aside, the figure that I once heard was that alcahol was involved in 50% of all fatal accidents. Any confirmation on that figure? Tom West { allegra cornell decvax ihnp4 linus utzoo }!utcsri!west