Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Balanced Treatment Evolution/Creation Message-ID: <1049@utastro.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Mar-85 10:40:23 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.1049 Posted: Fri Mar 1 10:40:23 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 4-Mar-85 07:39:21 EST References: <187@iwu1d.UUCP> <272@scgvaxd.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 41 > In article <187@iwu1d.UUCP> tan@iwu1d.UUCP (William Tanenbaum) writes: > >A. Ray Miller is of course correct that biology textbooks should > >present all the SCIENTIFIC arguments for creationism along with those > >for evolution. But, they already do. What do you think the blank > >page before the title page is for? > > What an incredibly intellectual comment! Obviously you know absolutely > nothing about origins or are incredibly biased! > > Dan I have been reading this newsgroup, and its "predecessors" (net.religion, net.misc, where articles on origins appeared earlier) for the better part of two years now. I have read a number of Creationist books (*Scientific Creationism*, *What is Creation Science?*, *Evolution, the Fossils Say No!* [both editions], *The Handy-Dandy Evolution Refuter* and others) as well as books such as Hitchings' and a number of books and articles on evolution and the Creation/Evolution controversy. I have yet to see *ANY* SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR CREATION. I have seen a lot of alleged "evidence" which turns on examination to be wrong, mistaken, or distorted (both intentionally and unintentionally), but nothing that can be taken seriously from a scientific point of view. I can also see why uninformed people who are not scientists are so easily taken in by the pseudoscientific nonsense that passes for "science" in the Creationist world. As Ernest Hua points out, the people who are pushing Creationism at the ICR and the CRS will stop at nothing to foist their pseudoscientific trash upon the unsuspecting public. They are a clear and present danger to education. William Tannenbaum is absolutely right. The blank page before the title page of any High School text *does* contain a COMPLETE exposition of the SCIENTIFIC evidence for Creation. -- "Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from religious conviction." -- Blaise Pascal Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (USnail) {allegra,ihnp4}!{ut-sally,noao}!utastro!bill (uucp) bill%utastro.UTEXAS@ut-sally.ARPA (ARPANET)