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From: annab@azure.UUCP (A Beaver)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Names..
Message-ID: <127@azure.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 28-Feb-85 21:30:20 EST
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point # 1
> .. how to deal with the situation in a sensible and comfortable
> manner (one which might even increase productivity though easing of
> tensions and facilitiating intelligent communication) draws what I
> can only place in the same category with some men I have been forced
> to work with. The attitude is one of humor her and she will go away
> or perhaps maybe "She's just trying to be cute....lets patronize
> her and then we can get on with serious things which she is, by her
> nature as a woman, not able to cope with or understand.
> 
> .............
> I want to thank you for helping me point up some of the attitudes
> which working women have to cope with. It is your style of ignorant
> behaviour and thinking which has worked to keep women down for so long.
> 
> Jeanette L.Zobjeck

point # 2
>	....little Zubbie..
 ..suggestion that the article belonged in net.jokes...

	I couldn't resist adding my $.02.
point # 1
	Funny, I have experienced a lot of the same attitudes in some
	of the men whom I have worked with. Being able to conduct 
	business on a reasonably complex level is easier if you can
	get past all that.

point # 2
	I have faced the situation over the years where a large number
	of people make a big production over MY name. So I can really
	identify with what Jeanette is expressing about people's
	reactions and attitudes. As a matter of fact, I didn't use my
	first name for a long time (14 yrs) because I didn't want to
	put up with the hastles. When I got my first Technician's
	position, I started using it again. I felt that the people
	in the Technincal World could handle it. For the most part,
	I was right.	
	However, I do still run into people who pronounce it wrong even
	after I tell them the right way to say it. 	They say that it
	reminds them of Anna Rosanna Danna.( a as in can)
	(a as in auto)           _
	(It is pronounced Aunnaudeaunau)

	 Annadiana Beaver
	A Beaver@Tektronix	"You think the present is moving fast,
				 Wait 'til you see the future." -Ruby-