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From: jlg@lanl.ARPA
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory
Subject: Re: Taxation is theft?
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Date: Mon, 4-Mar-85 18:15:15 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar  4 18:15:15 1985
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> >People do this sort of thing all the time.  There are numerous organizations,
> >clubs, political parties, lodges, etc. in existance all the time.  NONE of
> >them can vote to extract payment from members or non-members against that
> >person's will.  The victim of such a transaction has legal recourse to those
> >governmental bodies which superceed the organizations in question.
> >
> >J. Giles
> 
> 	Wrong, ever hear of a "closed shop" labor union?  This is
> the employee is coerced into paying union dues regardless of personal
> desires. And don't say he can always quit, I know of very few "blue
> collar" workers who can afford to be out of work(or at least not
> without getting unemployment comensation - a tax supported program).
> 				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

Please read the context and followup of discussions before firing off a
response like this.  If you had, you would have known that the discussion
was about whether a collected body (people in train) could vote to force
some member to part with his money.  I claimed that this would not be
permitted since the laws governing the jurisdiction through which the train
was passing would prohibit it.

As for 'closed shop' labor unions - they exist only where the are allowed
to exist by the local or state governments. 'Right to work' laws would
settle the problem admirably.   But then, I said all of this in a follow-up
already.

J. Giles