Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!ethan From: ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Origin of life Message-ID: <1074@utastro.UUCP> Date: Fri, 8-Mar-85 18:07:14 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.1074 Posted: Fri Mar 8 18:07:14 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 11-Mar-85 05:41:08 EST References: <14600002@hpfcrs.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas, Astronomy, Austin, TX Lines: 46 [] The question of how life originated has come up before in this newsgroup. It is clear that 1) There is no precise model of how life could have arisen on the primordial Earth without divine intervention. 2) There is no reason to believe that the origin of life is an event which *requires* divine intervention. That is, such an event would not require contravention of natural law. That being the case, what can we conclude? That we are ignorant. One could, as a matter of religious faith, choose to believe that our ignorance here is due to the fact that this event was a primordial miracle. One could not conclude this as a matter of science. Now the history of science is replete with examples of how phenomena attributed to the constant intervention of god(s) have come to be understood as the natural consequence of the fundamental laws of the universe. It is therefore reasonable to suppose that the origin of life will similarly come to understood as a natural phenomena. From the point of view of the scientist, God has so far remained an unnecessary hypothesis. Thus the claim of creationists to be advancing a scientific model seems devoid of merit. ****religious comments follow****** I do not understand the assertion that a belief in naturalistic interpretation of events is necessarily atheistic. Few people would claim that the action of gravity is due to a constant divine intervention in the workings of the universe. Rather, it is generally understood that gravity is a natural law and the religious among us see God as its author. Why then is the natural origin of life and its subsequent evolution seen as an atheistic hypothesis? Certainly a deity capable of creating a universe is capable of ordaining its laws so that life arises spontaneously throughout the universe. It may be reasonable to claim that a literal reading of the Bible certainly casts doubt on evolution. However, as others have pointed out, it also seems to imply a flat Earth and a geocentric universe. Are the creationists on the net really prepared to argue in favor these ideas? ******************************************** "Don't argue with a fool. Ethan Vishniac Borrow his money." {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan *Anyone who wants to claim these opinions is welcome to them.*