Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 (Tek) 9/28/84 based on 9/17/84; site tektronix.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!tektronix!robertd From: robertd@tektronix.UUCP (Bob Dietrich) Newsgroups: net.lang Subject: Re: Standardization (Pascal, not liters) Message-ID: <5174@tektronix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Mar-85 18:23:14 EST Article-I.D.: tektroni.5174 Posted: Mon Mar 4 18:23:14 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 6-Mar-85 03:09:58 EST References: <283@gumby.UUCP> <5125@tektronix.UUCP>, <289@gumby.UUCP> <428@nbs-amrf.UUCP> <355@sftri.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 33 > > > > ..... Whether you personally accept it or not, standards exist for > > > > Pascal for both the ANSI/IEEE and ISO versions. > > I think this is a matter of definition. In my opinion, the standard does > imply uniqueness, but then I am originally from Europe. Hence, I would vote > for the definition that says if there is a standard for X then only subjects > that comply with the standard can be called X. If you want more than one "standard" > pick another word, a weaker word like "flavor". > Boris Altman > AT&T Bell Labs Summit NJ > {ucbvax, ihnp4, allegra}!attunix!boris In some ways, my original comment has been taken out of context. The first quote above mainly related to Mike Inners' statement: "Indeed, there is no accepted standard for Pascal." I went on to discuss what I thought he was saying regarding "standard" and "incomplete", and in some ways agreed. I think the main point is that we are not discussing "standard" in a general way (at least I wasn't). The topic was Pascal, and my comments attempted to address talking about "standard" in a general way versus a standard for a programming language that has been produced by an accredited standards organization. In the later case, it is not debatable whether there is a standard or not. The only confusion that can arise is whether someone is talking about a national standard (produced by an organization like ANSI) or an international standard (ISO, of which ANSI is a member). Usually even this is not a problem, because the ANSI and ISO standards are identical. Bob Dietrich Tektronix, Inc. (503) 629-1727 {ucb or dec}vax!tektronix!robertd uucp address robertd@tektronix csnet address robertd.tektronix@rand-relay arpa address