Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcms!mpm From: mpm@hpfcms.UUCP (mpm) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Carver CD Player & Technology Message-ID: <14700008@hpfcms.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Mar-85 10:50:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcms.14700008 Posted: Mon Mar 4 10:50:00 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 10-Mar-85 05:33:58 EST Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 49 Nf-ID: #N:hpfcms:14700008:000:2466 Nf-From: hpfcms!mpm Mar 4 07:50:00 1985 I've been shopping around for a good CD player for several months now. Being in love with technology I, of course, want 4x oversampling and digital filtering. (I guess that means 14-bit DACs, n'est pas?) Being rich in spirit and poorer in cash (just bought a house), I, of course, want low cost. (My target: under $500 if possible; I'm look- ing for discounts.) Anyway I've seen three players that I know qualify: the Revox (overwhelming front panel), the Meridian (lacking the program features I want - i.e. ability to REPEAT a TRACK), and the Nakamichi (the BIG one). Except for the Meridian, they are all well beyond what I want to spend. Well, my saga continues: This weekend I saw a review of the new Carver CD player in Audio. I think I'm in love! It has all the above goodies PLUS one of those nifty special processing circuits that Car- ver is well known (but is he loved) for. AND, that circuit - the Digital Time Lens - is switchable, so if you don't like it, don't use it. The best news - price is (suggested) $649. Well naturally I would like to see, touch, hear, etc. one. Does anyone know anything about this unit? Any comments on Carver's repu- tation for reliability, quality of construction, etc.? Does ANYONE discount Carver equipment? Is the suggested price the same as the ACTUAL price? (Anybody seen one in a store yet?) What is the player's REAL immunity to shock and disk defects? I wouldn't be surprised if someone wants to jump in with basenote drift on this one. Well, I would be glad to hear what you have to say on: Carver, other "fancy" players, effectiveness of "technological whizzies", pricing, and (of course) my ignorance of technical issues. Anything else, use your own judgement. -- Mike "time to get back into audio equipment" McCarthy {ihnp4, hplabs} hpfcla!mpm P.S. Being rather naive about the underlying technology I would like some feedback on this: From previous discussions I have guessed that CD players incor- porate 4x oversampling and (usually?) digitial signal processing use the underlying Phillips mechanism. I think that Phillips uses 14-bit converters (D-A). Thus, apparently, there are no players that offer 16-bit DACs (do you need them) AND 4x oversampling. Frankly I don't think this conjecture makes much sense. But with a degree in CS, most of the technical discussions so far have blown right by me. So please help straighten me out.