Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!crsp!gargoyle!shallit From: shallit@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Shallit) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Guns as Protection Message-ID: <352@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Sat, 2-Mar-85 10:22:25 EST Article-I.D.: gargoyle.352 Posted: Sat Mar 2 10:22:25 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 3-Mar-85 05:13:53 EST References: <> Reply-To: shallit@gargoyle.UUCP (Jeff ) Organization: U. Chicago - Computer Science Lines: 34 Summary: In article <> bellas@ttidcb.UUCP (Pete Bellas) writes: >There seems to be a lot of statistics thrown about here over >how many people are killed by guns and how many use guns to >protect themselves. In going through my 1984 "Book of Lists" >I found the following numbers. > >In the US in 1984: > >Each day 63 people are killed by someone with a handgun. >Each day 620 people use a handgun to scare/capture/kill an attacker. > OK, I'll bite. What's the source of these so-called statistics? (Don't tell me the Book of Lists). I want to know what study reports these bogus figures. I posted *my* source. Let me post another. A 1975 study of 1200 robberies in Chicago showed that less than 1% of robbery victims were able to use a weapon to resist their assailants. [Dr. Richard Block, Center for Studies in Criminal Justice, University of Chicago.] >I personaly don't think that statistics have any place in >the discussion of gun ownership(although they do speak for >themselves). Private ownership of guns is necessary if we >want to continue living in a free society. Right. For example, like that totalitarian state which strongly regulates private ownership of handguns-- Japan. Why is it "necessary"? Beliefs like this explain why we have Ed Meese as attorney general. Jeff Shallit