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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Creationist arguments, PART I
Message-ID: <312@psivax.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 7-Feb-85 17:59:15 EST
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Posted: Thu Feb  7 17:59:15 1985
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Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley friesen)
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In article <3570003@csd2.UUCP> dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky) writes:
>[This has nothing to do with creationism vs. evolutionism]
>
>>        Photosynthesis, coincidentally, is the fun-
>>        damental process which drives all life forms on this
>>        planet presently.
>
>On `The Living Planet' the other night, they mentioned colonies
>of life which are totally unsupported by photosynthesis.
>They live on the deep ocean floor, around ruptures in the earth's surface.
>Bacteria live on the gases ejected, other life forms live on the bacteria,
>and so on.

	You are I suppose talking about chemosynthetic bacteria.
This is still an *open* system, that is it is getting its energy
outside. In this case the source of energy is the heat differential
between the surface of the Earth and its interior. Furthermore
this sort of energy metabolism represents a *very* small portion
of the total energy processed by living things, so it is of little
significance in determining the application of the second law of
thermodynamics to living systems.
-- 

				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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