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Subject: Re: Official Language Of USA
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Date: Sat, 9-Feb-85 00:25:44 EST
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> [...]  You may find it
> surprising, but I don't, that if you take a bunch of kids from non-English-
> speaking backgrounds (and most likely the children of poorly educated
> parents to boot) and put them in an English-speaking classroom, they're not
> going to do very well at first.  The idea behind bilingual education is that
> if you let them get used to the fundamentals -- like reading, writing,
> arithmetic, and the discipline and habits of going to school -- in their
> native tongues and then introduce them to English gradually, they'll have
> far more success at it.

A method that is experimentally MUCH better than this is to give those of a
non-English background a crash course in English (it's the only thing
taught in their first year, for example) and then let them join the all-
English curriculum on an equal basis.  This works better, is cheaper (you
don't have the expense of training teachers above first year in the problems
of bilingual education), and it's less controversial.

> Personally, I'm enough of a pluralist at heart that I'd love to see *truly*
> bilingual education in the parts of the country where it is appropriate.  In
> parts of the Rio Grande Valley, for instance, most people of all ethnic
> backgrounds speak both English and Spanish, and I think it would be great if
> the school system encouraged them to be literate in both languages.

I've never lived further than 30 miles from the Rio Grande and I don't know
very many people of any local ethnic group that supports this idea.  Even
many of those adults whose own English skills are slight would prefer that
their children be taught English ASAP.

One problem is that until the overall literacy rates in at least ONE
language is seen to go up, it seems unproductive to strive for two.  The
other problem is that a complete bilingual curriculum will allow non-
English speaking students to go clear through without picking up fluent
English skills.  Even good students may be lazy in their efforts to learn
English.  This, of course, limits their employment and college
opportunities to places where their native tongue is spoken (doesn't really
make them equal citizens, does it?).  The final point is that children of
ages 4-7 learn languages with MUCH less effort and with MUCH greater
fluency than if they wait until later.

Bilingual education is a great idea if you have LOTS of money to spend on
your school system.  But many minority schools barely have operating costs
as it is.  I would prefer that any children I have receive a multi-lingual
education (because, despite my residence in New Mexico, I find a need to
read German or French in my work much more pressing than Spanish).  But
the primary issue here is to use the most cost effective way of getting
education to everybody.

J. Giles