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From: boyajian@akov68.DEC (Jerry Boyajian)
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Subject: re: THOR #355
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Date: Wed, 13-Feb-85 02:46:14 EST
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> From:	hou2b!dwc	(danny chen)

> was tiwaz another name for that first god?
> ...
> just how many sky gods have there been?  i think
> that all sky gods must be related (zeus was able to hold thor's
> hammer back in a thor annual somewhere).

> From:	hpfclg!jack

> So this Tiwaz character claims (in his own thoughts, yet) to be Thor's
> great-grandfather, and by implication, Odin's grandfather.  Is there *any*
> mythological basis to this?  I always thought that Odin was right there
> close to the beginning of the Asgardian (Aesiric?) line.

In the AMAZING HEROES 1985 PREVIEW, Simonson has this to say about Tiwaz:

	"...[Thor] will meet Tiaaz (possibly under a different
	 name), one of the ancient sky gods of Indo-European
	 culture, who preceded the Norse gods and the Germanic
	 gods."

So, apparently (I haven't been up on my mythology for many, many moons, I'm
afraid), this Tiaaz (renamed Tiwaz by WS) is more of a *literary* ancestor
than a *real* ancestor of Odin, but Simonson has made him into the latter in
the mythology of the Marvel Universe.

As for Danny's comment about Zeus being able to lift Thor's hammer, well,
there is a reasonable explantion. It's not just that the hammer is super-heavy,
otherwise, Hercules, the Hulk, Wonder Man, et al. could lift it. What prevents
the others from lifting it is an enchantment placed on it by Odin. Obviously,
anyone whose power rivals (or exceeds) Odin's can override this enchantment.


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, Maynard, MA)

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