Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/4/83; site PSUVM.BITNET Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!akgua!psuvax1!psuvm!v6m From: V6M@PSUVM.BITNET Newsgroups: net.women Subject: MORE ON PORN AND DEGRADATION FROM MARCHIONNI Message-ID: <1520V6M@PSUVM> Date: Thu, 17-Jan-85 13:15:07 EST Article-I.D.: PSUVM.1520V6M Posted: Thu Jan 17 13:15:07 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Jan-85 04:45:21 EST Lines: 57 Larry West's 194 line criticism of Dubuc crystalizes the conflict it many levels. Larry sounds like the urbane, contemporary American LEFTIST educated, secular humanist. The main premise is one of FREEDOM and INDIVIDUAL thought. These are the greatest good!!!!! (most netters sound this way in my egotistical opinion) Understandable when you consider the social and political leanings of most faculties. Paul sounds like an evangelist addressing a faculty Senate Meeting!!! Obviously Paul is from the Old School. Those of you who read my postings know that I am too so here goes as I try to atone to Paul for siding the oposition on this one. Paul claims published evidence for his position. I am willing to give credence to his claims on past experience with his postings. I do remember such claims but I can not remember specific citations. The brain is divided into many parts and functional area. PBS had a good series showing this. ALL self-respecting literati watch PBS don't we? :-) Paul is preaching to the intellectual Gentiles. His authority is his religious training and convictions. Those of you who denigrate religious authority have probably lost your religion or never had one. You CANNOT understand fully his position unless you understand man's relationship to God, to society and to himself IS indeed a proper area of religion!!!! It is not ONLY the area of "concerned and committed activists". Paul is correct. Porn is a moral evil. It is indicative of moral decline. So is abortion and we know how the literati feel about that. It is strange that social decline in critical areas has been offset by social awareness and gain in others. Paul's criticism of porn is Theistic based and beautifully simple. Most criticisms were actually defending porn as good or at least non-harmful. They are wrong. A moral evil is a detriment to a society and a moral society has the right to supress immorality. Censorship has been considered an OBLIGATION of a moral society to protect itself. My criticism is this: I don't trust the other guy to censor!! Don't tell me that academics don't censor either. My summary: PORN IS EVIL AND SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM SOCIETY. I DON'T TRUST THE OTHER GUYS CENSOR TO STOP AT PORN!!!! THEREFORE TO KEEP THE OTHER CENSOR OFF MY BACK (and me off of him) I HAVE TO ALLOW PORNOGRAPHY TO EXIST IN THIS MIXED SOCIETY. THE PROBLEM WOULD BE MOOT IN A THEOCRACY. Hope I got some of the heat off of you Paul. Am I forgiven?? Marchionni V6M at PSUVM P.S. comments appreciated from SJUVAX