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From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS])
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Subject: Re: Criminal "Justice"
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Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 19:24:42 EST
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Posted: Wed Jan 16 19:24:42 1985
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In article <2208@nsc.UUCP> nessus@nsc.UUCP (Kchula-Rrit) writes:
>
>     It's getting pretty bad when a person can't walk down the street without
>being harrassed/insulted/worse.
>
>     It really burns me to see people defending these scums and saying why-
>don't-we-set-them-free-to-do-it-again!  
>
>    Hey, Europe/Canada, can people walk the streets and go about their business
>in comparative safety?  Got two jobs open for us? (semi- :-)

Yes.  And yes.  I lived in Europe (well, Finland) until eight years
ago, and since then I have lived in Toronto and Kitchener (that's
Canada if you didn't know...)

In the past eight years, I can't recall hearing of any muggings,
murders etc. in the Toronto subways.  I certainly felt comfortable
using them at all times, even at very late (early?) hours.  This
doesn't mean that there is no crime, but it certainly isn't
widespread.  The transit system is also clean, in good condition and
quite efficient.

The Kitchener Transit doesn't compare in efficiency, and there's no
subway here, but walking the streets is just fine.  Same goes for
Toronto (barring a few districts frequented by prostitutes etc.).
It's the same here, I feel, as it was in Europe, except that here I'm
quite a bit more worried about having my car broken into.  Violent
crime doesn't worry me here.  Wouldn't want to live in NYC, though.  :-(


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