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From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton)
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Subject: Re: The Pornography Ordinance-Some books that it bans:
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Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 11:27:07 EST
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Posted: Fri Jan 11 11:27:07 1985
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Charlie, you, Tim and I may have a problem. (Actually, we're fine,
it's the rest of the world that has a problem. :-) ) Since we doubt
the claim that ``watching "pronography" (pick your definition of
same) causes "violence" (another word which people are having fun
defining, but one which is, in principle, eaiser to define)'' we
see this as a censorship issue. If, however, you accept the premise,
then you will see this as a ``woman's issue''. [Which brings up
my belief that there are no ``woman's issues'' just ``people's
issues'' and that by segregating some issues and making them ``of
interest to women only'' you are doing more harm, then good. But you
all got to hear this when I campaigned agaisnt the creation of net.women.only.]

You get the same thing with other issues. If you accept the premise that
``mystical experiences can/should be a part of religious experience''
then you may find that discussions of same should be a valid topic of
discussion in net.religion. Shall we try it some time? Hmm, I think
that members of the atheist and religious readership of that list are
going to make the counter claim that such experiences are reasons to
be certain that your brain needs laundering by s shrink real soon because
such things aren't real and therefore aren't religious issues at all. 
[And then there are some whom would say that we are all posessed by the
devil, or assorted devils, and consider the matter settled at that...]

I think that you and Tim and I would again be on the same side of the
fence, but this time agreeing to accept the premise presented. Welcome
to the definition game...

Laura Creighton
utzoo!laura