Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site topaz.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!teddy!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!topaz!@RUTGERS.ARPA:TRUDEL@RU-BLUE.ARPA From: @RUTGERS.ARPA:TRUDEL@RU-BLUE.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: 2010 (Oh no, not again) Message-ID: <288@topaz.ARPA> Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 13:12:08 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.288 Posted: Wed Jan 16 13:12:08 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 20-Jan-85 00:56:34 EST Sender: daemon@topaz.ARPA Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 46 From: JonI have a few qualms about the discussion regarding 2010. Here goes--- (and please forgive me, I haven't read the 2010 book yet) 1) I am ashamed at some of you out there! This whole matter of a missing helmet in the pod bay is driving me nuts! Do you think that the space agency that sent out Discovery (is it still Nasa?) would skimp in the spacesuit department? I should hope that the powers that be would have provided a spacesuit for each person on the trip, EVEN THOSE IN HIBERNATION! God forbid that when all were revived a problem arise in the ship requiring each crewmember to suit up. What happens to Kaminsky, et al? Suffocation? I think not! 2) The end of the film really bit the big one, I'm sure you all agree. Very anticlimactic, if you ask me. Hyams really blew it by leading us on with the "Something Wonderful..." bit. It was more like "Something Catastrophic...". An ultimatum from Bowman would have been more reasonable; something along the lines of "If you don't leave within 48 hours, you'll be neutronized" would make me stop in my tracks faster than it "o-my-gosh, golly-o-gee Something Wonderful..." As Jupiter was imploding, I completely cringed at Dr. Floyd yelling "hurry!" Obviously, the Leonov was up at cranking speed, and could not go any faster. I would have preferred him to adopt the Arthur Dent Attitude of Impending Doom, ie. "so this is it, we're going to die." Although not a tension builder, it would be more realistic. Finally, an implosion of Jupiter has to be able to cause disasterous things to the Leonov and the Earth. Consider this- a power that has the ability to create stars should also have the power to shield selected objects from being annihilated by the event. I don't think that this is unreasonable. They/he/she/it would have at least computed the ramifications in advance of actually making a sun (there was enough time to, over the course of the millions of years of human development). 3) There is something else that no-one has mentioned (or is it in the book?). What happened to SAL? The only hint of this in the movie comes after HAL asks Dr. Chandra, "Will I Dream?". Dr. Chandra replies, "I don't know..." Does this mean that he lost SAL? Let's have some discussion about this. JOn (TRUDEL@RU-BLUE.ARPA) The preceding discussion represents the opinion of myself, and not my employers or anyone else for that matter. It's what sets me apart from the rest of you. -------