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From: rta@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA (Robert Aarhus)
Newsgroups: net.religion.christian
Subject: Re: WHAT?????
Message-ID: <219@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA>
Date: Mon, 7-Jan-85 12:31:46 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan  7 12:31:46 1985
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> "Jews do not believe people are born sinners so we do not need a
> messiah to die for us in order to save us from sin."

Is that why the Jews do not need a messiah? But wasn't it David, King
of Israel, who wrote

	Surely I was sinful at birth,
		sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
					(Ps 51:5)
	and

	Everyone has turned away, 
		they have together become corrupt;
	there is no one who does good,
		not even one.
					(Ps 53:3)

Was he not a Jew? And was it not Moses who said

	Cursed is the man who does not uphold the words of this law
		by carrying them out.
					(Dt 27:26)

Was he not also a Jew? And yet he condemns those who violate the Law
just once. It seems, then, that any omission in following the Law
causes condemnation as well.