Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uiucdcsb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcsb!andrews From: andrews@uiucdcsb.UUCP Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Suggestion for Brad Andrews Message-ID: <28000022@uiucdcsb.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-Jan-85 22:15:00 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcsb.28000022 Posted: Mon Jan 14 22:15:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Jan-85 06:12:28 EST References: <3265@alice.UUCP> Lines: 37 Nf-ID: #R:alice:-326500:uiucdcsb:28000022:000:1781 Nf-From: uiucdcsb!andrews Jan 14 21:15:00 1985 /* Written 10:54 am Jan 12, 1985 by ark@alice in uiucdcsb:net.abortion */ /* ---------- "Suggestion for Brad Andrews" ---------- */ > = Brad Andrews > Yes, it is true that the basic issue is of when does human life begin. > And since I firmly believe that it begins at conception, I have no choice > but to be against abortion, except when the mother's life is truely in danger. Well, Brad, since you apparently think your beliefs are irreducible primaries, not to be analyzed or discussed, there is no point in discussing them with you. So would you please go away, so as to stop wasting your time and ours? It's clear that no one else is going to convince you of anything, since you've already made up your mind, and it's equally clear that repeating "It's true because I believe it" isn't going to help either. /* End of text from uiucdcsb:net.abortion */ (* sorry, I don't know how to add the >>s at the beginning *) (* *) (* begin my response: *) How is my attitude any diferent than yours? Will you ever be convinced that abortion is murder? If not, shouldn't you leave? Or is this only a forum for converting people who foolishly believe that abortion is wrong to change their ways and allow it? (note the sarcasm) Why should you have any more right to discuss here than I? Going on to the question of when life begins. If it does not begin at conception, then when does it begin? At birth? When a child is 5 years old? When he/she can fully care for himself/herself? What does life consist of? This is the foundational question, and the reason why a loose belief in regards to human life before physical birth leads to infant killing and euthenasia(sp?). Brad