Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucbvax.ARPA
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!cuccia
From: cuccia@ucbvax.ARPA (Nick Cuccia)
Newsgroups: net.college,net.cse
Subject: Re: segregating male and female
Message-ID: <4175@ucbvax.ARPA>
Date: Mon, 14-Jan-85 01:11:26 EST
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.4175
Posted: Mon Jan 14 01:11:26 1985
Date-Received: Tue, 15-Jan-85 00:25:14 EST
References: <241@mss.UUCP> <439@gitpyr.UUCP> <3918@ucbvax.ARPA> <445@gitpyr.UUCP> <617@utcsrgv.UUCP> <114@topaz.ARPA> <778@gloria.UUCP>
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Lines: 23
Xref: watmath net.college:633 net.cse:313

> ["The Marines are looking for a few good men.  But so are the women."]
> 
> > Come on now.  As far as I have seen so far, the women in most CSE classes
> > that I have either taught or given have been more enthusiastic then the men.
> > There is a large problem (that I used to run into in math classes) that the
> > teachers will ignore the women, giving more of their attention to the men,
> > and thus finally discouraging the women.
> 
> Another observation: women students have asked me to assign them to all-
> woman programming teams - to forestall "enthusiasms" of the wrong sort.
> -- 
> Col. G. L. Sicherman

After muddling through the upper-division data structures class here
at Cal, I found many of the women to be very enthusiastic about the
material.  This was interesting, since the instructor seemed to be
doing his best to dampen _everybody's_ enthusiasm.  His treatment of
the women in the class bordered on being obscene.  He seemed to feel
that they simply didn't belong in the class/major/school.

--Nick Cuccia
--ucbvax!cuccia
--cuccia%ucbmiro@Berkeley