Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!mit-athena!martillo From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish,net.politics Subject: Re: Wanted: Sufficient proof that Tutu is anti-Semitic Message-ID: <13@mit-athena.ARPA> Date: Sun, 6-Jan-85 10:22:23 EST Article-I.D.: mit-athe.13 Posted: Sun Jan 6 10:22:23 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Jan-85 01:08:39 EST References: <349@cadovax.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Project Athena, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 16 Xref: watmath net.religion.jewish:1232 net.politics:6729 I should like Jeff Fields to define what he considers anti-Semitic. If Joe McCarthy had claimed that Judaism had provided the model for Soviet Marxist practice, I suspect all the great liberals would have accused him of anti-Semitism. Now apartheid is an extremely reprehensible social system and Tutu claims Jewish practice of 2000 years ago provided the model for apartheid. Perhaps, I should not even have bothered to explain the Jewish practice; the claim that the practice of my ancestors of almost 2 millenia ago provides the model for a system started less than 2 centuries ago is simply moronic and reminds me of the right-wingers who consider the Jews guilty for communism, of the traditional Christian anti-semites who consider the Jews guilty as deicides, of the Sunni Muslims who consider the Jews guilty of murdering Muhammad (who died of old age) and who consider the Jews responsible for the Shia and of the Shiites who consider the Jews responsible for the martyrdom of `Ali. These seem to me all to be prima facie anti-Semitic beliefs (probably also secunda et tertia facie ad infinitum).