Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ucbvax!info-vax From: info-vax@ucbvax.ARPA Newsgroups: fa.info-vax Subject: Re: getting small Message-ID: <4222@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 15:04:42 EST Article-I.D.: ucbvax.4222 Posted: Wed Jan 16 15:04:42 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Jan-85 13:22:08 EST Sender: daemon@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 27 From: fortune!redwood!rpw3@UCB-VAX +--------------- | From: Provan@LLL-MFE.ARPA | Gee, I must be getting old. I remember when "small" meant 10K. | If you guys want small, find one of those. If you want user | friendly, buy lots of memory. But don't go around bragging | about 2439K systems being "small". +--------------- Both referenced systems included not just the operating system kernel, but a complete systems utility environment, spoolers, editor, etc. I appreciate "small". OS/8 (for the PDP-8) was delightful, even with just 8K words of memory and running on floppies. And the in-memory kernel was just 256 words (384 words on 12- to 32-K machines). But even OS/8 was bigger than 10K, if you include BUILD, TECO, BATCH, PRINT, PIP, the command decoder, etc., for a fair comparison. Try several hundred K, or most of an RX02 floppy. (And yes, that's still smaller than 2439 K.) Rob Warnock Systems Architecture Consultant UUCP: {ihnp4,ucbvax!dual}!fortune!redwood!rpw3 DDD: (415)572-2607 USPS: 510 Trinidad Lane, Foster City, CA 94404