Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!cca!ima!inmet!nrh From: nrh@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Orphaned Response Message-ID: <1896@inmet.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 02:07:03 EST Article-I.D.: inmet.1896 Posted: Wed Jan 16 02:07:03 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Jan-85 10:35:01 EST Lines: 47 Nf-ID: #R:ihuxe:-102700:inmet:3900158:177600:2129 Nf-From: inmet!nrh Jan 14 21:37:00 1985 >***** inmet:net.flame / tpvax!ssc / 12:14 am Jan 13, 1985 >> In 1980, the Libertarian Party had what sounds like a >> workable way to get rid of Social Security: shoot it >> between the eyes. >> >> People now on Social Security would receive whatever benefits >> they would have received otherwise. People who had not >> yet started getting money back would received decreased >> benefits based on their contributions to date, and would >> be able to make up the difference by investing their >> gains meanwhile. >> >> The whole thing would be financed by selling off all the land >> that the Federal Government owns and has not developed. >> It turns out that the two numbers just about match. > > >Hey, Folks! SS was invented to provide at least some minimal level of income >for all. If it's not working, I say let's fix it. It's a good idea, one that >I am convinced keeps people from starving to death after they've spent their >life's earnings. If it were done away with or made voluntary, then you're >going to have LOTS of people who don't know enough to save either living in >abject poverty or on the welfare rolls, or more probably both. > >Sell undeveloped Federal lands? You must be joking! I like the idea that >some of this country is held in trust, that we don't have unfettered >"development" of the continent. I like wild areas. You sell off all the >land, and you're going to wind up with even more snowmobile parks and >K-Marts. > > SPECIAL OFFER:: OWN A PIECE OF THE GRAND CANYON! > >I've heard a lot of hare-brained nonsense on this network, but this idea is >just such a piece of horse pucky I can't believe it. > Yessir, I forgot how reliable our government is. On the other hand, I heard yesterday on the radio that some environmental group had protested to the news media that the government, in particular the strip-mining control board (whatever it's called) had broken the law regarding preservation of historic sites and natural resources. Not once, not twice, but 1600 times. It's a good thing the government owns that land, huh? That means that it's in responsible hands. Right.