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Subject: Re: STARGATE (READ THIS!)
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Date: Fri, 18-Jan-85 21:44:49 EST
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--
Chuq, Lauren--oy, do I know where you're coming from!  Once upon a
time in another life, I ran a housing co-op organization for $200
a month.  Most of the members were students or miscellaneous
transients with a "no deposit no return" philosophy.  The sh*t I
got when I asked for a raise!  I even drew fire when I tried to
get the organization involved in community activities, and I wasn't
at all prepared for resistance to fixing a few roofs.  And the same
sort of epithets you're getting--you fascist, power-hungry, etc. 

It came from a few juveniles so fascinated by the hypothetical
limits of their precious freedom--you try to encourage ANY kind of
long-range responsibility and they pull a tantrum.  And some would
get into fights, break furniture, start fires, but no matter what
hour of the day or night, ol' Perlow would drag himself over and pick
up the pieces.  After 2 years of that, in the spring of 1976, I
submitted my resignation.  I can still remember its last sentence:
"If I'm wrong I'll wake from my dreams, and if I'm right I'll dance on
your graves."

Chuq and Lauren, that rambling was just to say that some of us out here
appreciate your efforts more than you heretofore knew.  I'll say "hang
in there", but I'll understand if you don't.

And to Frank Adrian and his supporters, if any, let me explain a little
about co-operation, a subject I have some battlefield experience with:  
Anarchic systems (like Usenet here) are based on trust.  If there is
mutual trust, any protocol will work; if there is no trust, no protocol
will work.  The protocol, in the sense of an overall direction and
decision-making methodology, is therefore irrelevant.  What really
counts is the trust.  Think about it.
-- 
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