Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!haapanen From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Criminal "Justice" Message-ID: <834@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 19:24:42 EST Article-I.D.: watdcsu.834 Posted: Wed Jan 16 19:24:42 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jan-85 21:31:09 EST References: <2208@nsc.UUCP> Reply-To: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Distribution: net Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 39 In article <2208@nsc.UUCP> nessus@nsc.UUCP (Kchula-Rrit) writes: > > It's getting pretty bad when a person can't walk down the street without >being harrassed/insulted/worse. > > It really burns me to see people defending these scums and saying why- >don't-we-set-them-free-to-do-it-again! > > Hey, Europe/Canada, can people walk the streets and go about their business >in comparative safety? Got two jobs open for us? (semi- :-) Yes. And yes. I lived in Europe (well, Finland) until eight years ago, and since then I have lived in Toronto and Kitchener (that's Canada if you didn't know...) In the past eight years, I can't recall hearing of any muggings, murders etc. in the Toronto subways. I certainly felt comfortable using them at all times, even at very late (early?) hours. This doesn't mean that there is no crime, but it certainly isn't widespread. The transit system is also clean, in good condition and quite efficient. The Kitchener Transit doesn't compare in efficiency, and there's no subway here, but walking the streets is just fine. Same goes for Toronto (barring a few districts frequented by prostitutes etc.). It's the same here, I feel, as it was in Europe, except that here I'm quite a bit more worried about having my car broken into. Violent crime doesn't worry me here. Wouldn't want to live in NYC, though. :-( tom haapanen university of waterloo (519) 744-2468 allegra \ clyde \ \ decvax ---- watmath --- watdcsu --- haapanen ihnp4 / / linus / The opinions herein are not those of my employers, of the University of Waterloo, and probably not of anybody else either.