Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site unmvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!teddy!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!unmvax!cliff From: cliff@unmvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Re: More on justice Message-ID: <583@unmvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-Jan-85 23:26:24 EST Article-I.D.: unmvax.583 Posted: Thu Jan 17 23:26:24 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Jan-85 02:35:53 EST References: <283@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <1175@ut-ngp.UUCP> <671@bunker.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 29 > > As I understand libertarian principles, such as society would not > > even have lawyers -- the legal system would not be sufficiently > > complex to require such specialists to help people defend their > > rights. > > Oh come now. No lawyers? HA! I keep hearing libertarians > say that in the case of a dispute, one can always sue. Who's > going to handle these suits? No lawyers may be misleading... Currently I represent myself. I have no qualms about taking someone to small claims court if they screw around on the otherside of a deal. Usually it is settled out of court. If I had more free time and there was some money in it (or a worthy cause in need of my services) I would be willing to represent someone else. Of course the bar might get a little upset and it probably wouldn't be worth the hassle. Taking time to look up all the relevant laws and precedences for just a simple dispute currently takes quite a bit of time (and on top of that I usually wind up reading all sorts of misc. tidbits on the way, wasting still more time); if the laws were simpler more people would be representing themselves and their friends/neighbors or people willing to give them money... would they be lawyers? Yes and no, these people would be doing the work of a lawyer but they would be as free to practice law without being certified as I am to program without being a member of ACM ('though I am a member of ACM, I am free not to be). --Cliff [Matthews] {purdue, cmcl2, ihnp4}!lanl!unmvax!cliff {csu-cs, pur-ee, convex, gatech, ucbvax}!unmvax!cliff 4744 Trumbull S.E. - Albuquerque NM 87108 - (505) 265-9143