Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site uw-beaver Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!info-mac From: info-mac@uw-beaver Newsgroups: fa.info-mac Subject: Douglas Electronics Program Message-ID: <382@uw-beaver> Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 04:01:58 EST Article-I.D.: uw-beave.382 Posted: Fri Jan 11 04:01:58 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Jan-85 05:39:43 EST Sender: daemon@uw-beaver Organization: U of Washington Computer Science Lines: 133 From: KSPROUL@RUTGERS.ARPA I have now had a better chance to look out the D.E. circuit board program,,, It has a few catches, but nothing that it unreasonable and is overall a VERY good program!!!! Following are the two letters that came with this program from D.E. (the reason I am sending this to the net is that I have had enough enquires about this to warrant it...) ----- letter from Douglas Electronics Inc... December 21, 1984 Dear Customer Enclosed is the Printed Circuit Board Layout and Manufacturaing System disk which you recently ordered. We designed this product in order to provide our customers with quick turn-around on quality circuit boards manufactured at reasonable prices. the response to this product has far outreached our highest expectations. We are obviously pleased to have received such a good reception to a new product; however, we are anticipating some problems. Today we are shipping about 450 copes of the program. If very many of you return with orders for circuit boards whithin the next few weeks, we are not going to be in a position to handle the orders. In order to better serve your needs we have taken several steps: 1. We have on order new equipment which will give us increased manufacturing capacity. 2. We are making arrangments with orhter manufacturers to help handle the overflow work. 3. We have entered into an exclusive marketing agreement with Bishop Graphics, Inc. for our printed cirtuit software. Under the bishop Graphics name, several enhancements will e added to the system. The most important enhancement will be the ability to enable other circuit board manufactures to produce circuit boards from the system. (The following was underlined) PLEASE NOTE: The special price of $10.00 (plus shipping and handling) is no longer avvailable. Also, the disk contains copyrighted software, the disk is copy protected, and we expect you to honor the copy protection. (end of underlined text) All inquire`ies about future orders for the software are being directed to Bishop Graphics (818) 991-2600. Any inquirey about the program which you now have, or request for manufacturing of boards from the program should be directed to Douglas Electronics at (415) 483-8770. Sincerely and Thank you, Douglas Electronics ------ letter from Bishop Graphics---- December 19, 1984 Dear Douglas Customer: Bishop Graphics, INC. would like to thank you for your response to, and your interest in, the Douglas Electronics Printed Circuit Board Layout and Manufacturing System. By licensing this product from Douglas Electronics, you are no also eleigible for an exclusive future offer from Bishop Grahics, as described below. As you are probably already arware, Bishop Graphics, Inc. is the world's leading supplier of PCB design aids. Bishop is now pleased to annonunce that we have just become the exclusive worldwide marketer of all future Douglas PCB software and products. And bishop will soon be offering both software and related hardware for low-cost, yet highly effective CAD systems for printed circuit board layout and design. We'd like you to know that in the near furture, Bishop plans to announce and release a vastly enhanced version of the Douglas PCB Layout and Manufacturing System software that you have just received in its initial form. Tghis new version will e marketed under the Bishop name, and amongh those items currently planned for the Bishop's release are: Increased productivity, a full-board checkprint capability for the Apple Imagewriter, higher- resolution pen plooter output, and "Gerber-compatible" photo- plotter output. As one of the first licensees of the initial Douglas software, you will e offered the new, ehanced and expanded Bishop version at a significantly reduced price as soon as it becomes available. This special reduced-price offereing will NOT be made available to anyone else. Your name has already been entered on to a special list of preferred Bishop CAD customers, and you will automatically receive all future announcements on Bishop's upcoming PCB software enhancements and related Bishop PCB CAD systems products. Sincerely, David L. Peltz VP of Sales and Marketing Bishop Graphics CAD Systems Corp --- end of bishop letter.... I think that this program system has a GOOD chance of becoming a de-facto standard for low-end cost PCB layout!!!! BUT !!!! Bishop Graphics had better not charge to high of a price for the system.... Also, there is a good chance that the company my brother works for will by a MAC just for this program.... We (he) is going to try it out on my MAC, get the board made, and if it works out well, get one and use it for their board layout... Keith Sproul Ksproul@Rutgers.arpa as usual, I have no connection to either company, I just think that this is one heck of a fantastic pice of software.... -------