Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.books,net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: The Pornography Ordinance-Some books that it bans: Message-ID: <4903@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 11:27:07 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.4903 Posted: Fri Jan 11 11:27:07 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Jan-85 11:27:07 EST References: <3204@alice.UUCP>, <448@ukma.UUCP>, <5219@duke.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 29 Charlie, you, Tim and I may have a problem. (Actually, we're fine, it's the rest of the world that has a problem. :-) ) Since we doubt the claim that ``watching "pronography" (pick your definition of same) causes "violence" (another word which people are having fun defining, but one which is, in principle, eaiser to define)'' we see this as a censorship issue. If, however, you accept the premise, then you will see this as a ``woman's issue''. [Which brings up my belief that there are no ``woman's issues'' just ``people's issues'' and that by segregating some issues and making them ``of interest to women only'' you are doing more harm, then good. But you all got to hear this when I campaigned agaisnt the creation of net.women.only.] You get the same thing with other issues. If you accept the premise that ``mystical experiences can/should be a part of religious experience'' then you may find that discussions of same should be a valid topic of discussion in net.religion. Shall we try it some time? Hmm, I think that members of the atheist and religious readership of that list are going to make the counter claim that such experiences are reasons to be certain that your brain needs laundering by s shrink real soon because such things aren't real and therefore aren't religious issues at all. [And then there are some whom would say that we are all posessed by the devil, or assorted devils, and consider the matter settled at that...] I think that you and Tim and I would again be on the same side of the fence, but this time agreeing to accept the premise presented. Welcome to the definition game... Laura Creighton utzoo!laura