Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site osu-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!cbosgd!osu-eddie!karl From: karl@osu-eddie.UUCP (Karl Kleinpaste) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Merry Christmas from the NRA Message-ID: <42@osu-eddie.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Jan-85 10:15:42 EST Article-I.D.: osu-eddi.42 Posted: Tue Jan 15 10:15:42 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jan-85 05:34:07 EST References: <2974@allegra.UUCP> <1912@sun.uucp> <297@desint.UUCP> <1931@sun.uucp> <318@ll1.UUCP> Organization: You really don't want to know Lines: 37 ------- > Ahh yes, the armed homeowner v.s. the unidentified intruder. > Let's assume for the moment that it is an intruder, not your > child, or a guest you forgot you had. > Scenario number 1: You shout "Freeze buddy, I've got a gun, > and I'm making a citizens arrest!" The intruder, also armed, given > your kindly warning about your gun, turns and blows you away. > Scenario number 2: Not wanting to be shot, you shoot the > intruder at first glance. > Could you handle number 2? Really? Becasue it's the only > way you'll get him. He's prepared to kill, or he wouldn't be in > your house with a gun. Are you? Really? ---------- We've gone the rounds on this one before, I think. S#1: If you're stupid enough to stand where you can be seen when you make the statement, you deserve what you get. "Evolution in action," and all that. S#2: No person trained in firearms fires at anything until it is completely identified. Nor would he fire without provocation; the courts have a hard time with that, and for good reason. Go ahead, create such scenarios. All they demonstrate is your own lack of understanding of the proper use of firearms, and they do not detract from the validity of the arguments of those of us who do understand. A better solution all around, given the above conditions, is to hide first, out of sight, then announce your intentions about arrest and such. If he fires at you then (he'd be firing rather blindly since you're out of sight), you are entitled to return fire in self-defense. If he flees, so much the better. Suggestions for better solutions than this are certainly welcome. If you're not willing to fire at all, you'd best not challenge any burglar any time. -- Karl Kleinpaste @ Bell Labs, Columbus 614/860-5107 +==-> cbrma!kk @ Ohio State University 614/422-0915 osu-eddie!karl