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From: rwh@aesat.UUCP (Russ Herman)
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Subject: Re: How to discipline short of spanking
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Date: Thu, 3-Jan-85 08:41:54 EST
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First of all, are you sure she really needs as much sleep as you think? Like
adults, children's sleep requirements vary. It's pretty easy to tell when
they're tired at that age: they start getting crabby, rubbing their eyes, etc.
Don't pay any attention to her verbal statements: my 3 year old has been known
to deny that he's tired, then, two minutes later, be asleep sitting up on the
sofa!

I don't think that not sleeping is a "spanking offense". While I'm not
ideologically opposed to spanking, I've never had to resort to it either.
Isolation has always been a sufficient deterrent for my son.
You are doing the right thing, basically. Instead of telling her that
it's "nap time", tell her that it's "quiet time", and that she has to go
up to her room, and stay there. Get a digital clock for her to watch, and
tell her that she's going to have to stay until 
(sorry all you flamers about kids' not learning to tell time).
Then do your best to ignore her until the designated time. Be persistent,
and don't respond to her anger with more anger, or with placation.
Don't be reluctant to confine her to the room - if she wants to scream, that's
her privilege. Remember that unrewarded behavior is eventually extinguished.
Kids need to learn that there are some things in life that they just have to
put up with, like sitting at the table during meals, going to sleep at
night, etc. A few things that comprise normal civilised human behavior.
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