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From: mck@ratex.UUCP (Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan)
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Subject: Re: Re: The FORCE of Property -- More Straw Men
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Date: Sat, 19-Jan-85 18:24:04 EST
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>>However for Libertarians to argue that the reign of private property
>>will mean the end of all force is an error.  
>
>Excuse me, but I don't recall hearing any libertarian advance that 
>position.  To tell people that your opponents make points that your
>opponents do not in fact make is called "building a straw man".

     Yes, indeed.  But what you may not realize is that Sevener just LOVES to
build straw-men.
     Back when he was a more regular contributor to net.philosophy, he used to
regularly misquote his opponents, and then attempt to refute the misquotation.
This pretty much ended when Cipriani threatened to start a service where he
would catalogue these misquotations.
     Moving over to net.politics, Sevener has resumed the construction of
straw-men.  For example, on the subject of economic theory: He has tries to
mislead his readers into thinking that the invisible-hand metaphor is some kind
of religious doctrine, instead of just a metaphor; He has acted as if
Libertarian economic thought is based upon the approach of the Lausanne School,
when it is, in fact, based upon the approach of the Austrian School.  And there
are various instances (like the one that you draw our attention to) of Sevener
distorting the Libertarian position on history, reparations, progress, &c.
Perhaps we should again consider routinely cataloguing Timmy's little lies.

                                        Overflowing with disgust,
                                        Daniel Kian Mc Kiernan
                                        9120 Hawthorn Pt
                                        Westerville, OH  43081-9605