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From: kjm@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ken Montgomery)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: The pregnant criminals
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Date: Wed, 2-Jan-85 10:55:50 EST
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> bonnie!emh (Edward M. Hummel)
>
> ...
>>>        Maybe the mother is a criminal, in a sense.  At the time of
>>>conception she committed the "grave" offense of engaging in sexual
>>>intercourse without being prepared and committed to accept the possible
>>>consequences (pregnancy).
>>Are you "prepared and commited to accept the possible consequences"
>>of driving?  Won't you seek medical aid if you have a car accident?
>
>Yes. Yes, if injured.

Then don't you think it inconsistent to deny medical aid of
abortion to a woman who has become pregnant accidentally?
Is it really consistent to deny her the possibility of 
recovering from that accident quickly?

> ...
>>>        Excepting rape, voluntary consent has been acquired.
>>Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy.  The woman has consented
>>to the momentary presence of a man, *not* to presence of a child.
>
>The crucial point.  Both men and women should realize that consent to
>have sex is consent to possible pregnancy.

Nobody should "realize" anything that is false.

> ...
>>Why is carrying the child to term the only responsible way to handle
>>accidental pregnancy?  In other words, why is abortion irresponsible?
>>Why should people "accept the results" of accidents?
>
>        Another fundamental point of disagreement.  Based on moral,
>humanitarian, ethical, religious, historical (or any combination thereof)
>principles abortion is irresponsible.  Again, this has been
>often discussed in this group.

The bald claim that abortion is irresponsible has been made in
this group, but it has not, in my recollection, been supported.
In other words, *what* moral, humanitarian, etc. principles?

> ...
>>"Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs"
>>Ken Montgomery
>
>Ed Hummel
>"A hapless smurf"

--
"Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs"
Ken Montgomery
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