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From: fderavi@cybavax.UUCP (F. Deravi)
Newsgroups: net.physics
Subject: Re: Causality, Determinability, and Determinacy
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Date: Thu, 10-Jan-85 11:31:34 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 10 11:31:34 1985
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	The statement in H. Hull's article attributed to K. Arndt

> ... , the fact that the observers can see
> only one isolated property for each measurement they make is crucial to the
> developmnent of a sensation of random behaviour.

may be criticized on several fronts.
	
	If an observer *could* observe two *isolated* properties in the one
observation, taking each property to be resident in one of the sets
of seven ( why seven ? ) dimentional space, the observer must simultaneously
interact with set 1 space  and set 2 space. But nothing in set 1 can interact
with set 2 which places the observer in a rather odd position. If a perturbation
in the observer due to set 1 and  a perturbation in the observer due to set 2
could NOT interact, which would be necessary for no interaction between set 1
and set 2, then the poor observer would be formally regarded as two individual
non-interacting observers. Ken Arndt's point then has no real meaning in the
physical sense.

	There is a similar problem with H. Hull's examples. His 3 sets of
seven dimensions could only be completely independent if an observer
could see, at most, those properties in the one set if some kind of
"superspace" ( which includes the divine intervention of Hull's examples )
was then made available to an observer in one set to argue with
an observer from another set, any points of agreement, disagreement
or ability to communicate in general would be entirely a function of that
superspace. 


Andrew Mackay,
edited by F. Deravi.
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