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From: josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: What is socialism?
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Date: Mon, 21-Jan-85 04:47:17 EST
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Posted: Mon Jan 21 04:47:17 1985
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> > The epitome of socialism, and a good example of a nation where the 
> > state-first, individual-last ideals of socialism were taken to their
> > logical conclusion, is Germany under National Socialism in the '30's
> > and '40's.
> > 
> > --JoSH
> 
> Bullshit.  Haven't we gone thru this before?  Did you read the posting you're
> replying to?
> 
> jeff

Yes.  I disagreed with its implicit premise, that Socialism can only be
defined by "revolutionary" intellectuals, who may dismiss any real-world
Socialists or Communists as "heretical" in some way.  I don't
care what the ivory tower Socialist thinks the world ought to be like;
what I am concerned with is the very real mass murder that occurs
every time it is put into practice.

--JoSH