Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alice!ark From: ark@alice.UUCP (Andrew Koenig) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Reply to Brad Andrews Message-ID: <3286@alice.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Jan-85 15:19:21 EST Article-I.D.: alice.3286 Posted: Tue Jan 15 15:19:21 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jan-85 05:40:39 EST Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 31 > How is my attitude any diferent than yours? Will you ever be convinced that > abortion is murder? If not, shouldn't you leave? Or is this only a forum > for converting people who foolishly believe that abortion is wrong to change > their ways and allow it? (note the sarcasm) Why should you have any more right > to discuss here than I? Answers: (1) I don't know; I can't read your mind, but I suspect your attitude is different in many ways. (2) Maybe. (3) This doesn't need an answer. (4) I don't. But when you say "This is what I believe, I have no choice about it, and I am never going to change, and I believe it because it's right, so there!" my response is: "Well whoopee for you. You will probably not convince me of ANYTHING without reason. > Going on to the question of when life begins. If it does not begin at > conception, then when does it begin? At birth? When a child is 5 years old? > When he/she can fully care for himself/herself? What does life consist of? > This is the foundational question, and the reason why a loose belief in > regards to human life before physical birth leads to infant killing and > euthenasia(sp?). Surely you're not going to tell me that a sperm cell isn't alive! Actually, you're ignoring the most important question. You know, the one I asked a few weeks ago that no one has yet answered for me convincingly: why is killing a human different from killing an animal? I am, of course, asking somewhat rhetorically. It seems to me that until this question is answered completely, any argument about whether a fetus, or a baby for that matter, is alive is completely specious.