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From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton)
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Subject: re: frequenting the wrong peoples wives
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Date: Thu, 17-Jan-85 00:31:14 EST
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Reply to Julia Harper:

These are the lines of the article Julia is upset with:


		Now certainly there is a lot of petty crime there, and
	a lot of burglery too, but mugging was unheard of, and in order
	to get shot or stabbed you had to frequent the wrong bars or
	the wrong people's wives.  

Julia says that this is a perfect example of the societal norm of
assuming that people are men, and identifying women only through
their role as connected with someone else.

Julia, can you read, or are you only looking for excuses for a favourite
argument? Whoever (I forget whom) posted this was pointing out that
this was the only way to get shot or stabbed.

Presumably, thare means that whereever that was there is at least 2
(notice the plural: wives) people who will shoot or stab those who
frequent their wives. 

What is your beef? That people shouldn't get so steamed about adultery?
Well, I agree, but that sure doesn't sound like what you said. Point of
fact it sounds like you are the one that are making the sexual
generalisations... You may think that women are only being viewed as a role
but in assuming that it wasn't a lesbian woman (or a bi-sexual woman) you
are assuming that Gays ``don't exist''. Gays have been complaining of
this for a while...

What, say you .. the reality is that men shoot men for frequenting their
wives and they don't shoot their wives' girlfriends? Bingo. You are
now asserting exactly what the original person said:  the reality is
that frequenting certain bars and certain people's wives was how one
got shot in that town.

But then, reality is never so much fun as finding an excuse to voice a
favoured hatred. . . whether it is the feminist hatred, or the gun
hatred, or the Christian hatred...

laura creighton
utzoo!laura