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From: kaufman@uiucdcs.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Re: mr. insensitive speaks out
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Date: Fri, 18-Jan-85 12:49:00 EST
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Posted: Fri Jan 18 12:49:00 1985
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Nf-From: uiucdcs!kaufman    Jan 18 11:49:00 1985

[the incredible frog boy is on the loose again!]

/* Written  1:06 am  Jan 18, 1985 by aeq@pucc-h> in uiucdcs:net.singles */

I observe that Mr. Kaufman's article includes a vote against the creation of
net.singles.js; thus the shutout is destroyed.  Of course, I second that vote.
I suspect that those participants who are more tolerant of me (and of people
in general) are not bothering to vote, since they will continue to be
supportive and understanding.

-- Jeff Sargent
/* End of text from uiucdcs:net.singles */

I don't think I actually said that.  But, now that you've provoked me to fully
state my position, I will.  I think the concept of a net.singles.js is funny,
even silly.  I've been too busy laughing at the whole deal to dignify it with
a vote, either pro or con.  Instead, I've been trying to exploit the lighter
side of the matter.  I hope someone found my previous statements at least
somewhat humorous.

Now, for a specific statement of position:  I can see that Jeff's postings may
have created an imbalance in the makeup of net.singles, at least different
from what it would be without his influence.  This I do not see as necessarily
bad; in fact, I feel the net thrives on a its strong personalities with their
prolific postings.  I've often wished I could be as verbose and articulate on
my CRT as some of them are. These people have my respect, even when I do not
agree with a lot of their submissions.  Everyone knows who Jeff, Chuq, and some
others - you can figure out who - are.  Jeff may overload, but as long as he
stays relevant, I have few qualms.

As for the creation of net.singles.js, while the idea seems palatable on the
surface, I feel that creating a notesfile for the purposes of one single living
(thus avoiding rebuttals wrt net.tv.drwho) person is a dangerous precedent.
Even doing it for a public figure (such as net.flame.reagan) is borderline at
best.  Regardless, my bad feelings about it would quintuple if Jeff were to
be barred from the main net.singles.  All in all, I suppose that does add up to
a no vote.  Enough Sargent slaughter!

Ken Kaufman (uiucdcs!kaufman)
The opinions expressed above are not necessarily those of the Shell Oil
Company.  Then again, they are not my employer.  But I do have a credit card
from them.