Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ariel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!ariel!norm From: norm@ariel.UUCP (N.ANDREWS) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish,net.politics Subject: Re: Tutu Makes a DooDoo Message-ID: <822@ariel.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Jan-85 13:37:49 EST Article-I.D.: ariel.822 Posted: Wed Jan 9 13:37:49 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Jan-85 22:48:44 EST References: <1069@hou5e.UUCP> Organization: AT&T-ISL, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 33 Xref: watmath net.religion.jewish:1227 net.politics:6697 >I don't see how you can say that selling arms to South Africa makes >Israel a supporter of apartheid (if in fact they do sell arms). > >Does trading with the Soviet Union make the U.S. a supporter of >communism? > >ellen bart > Yes, trading with the Soviet Empire, an evil empire ruled by an evil regime, does make the U.S> a supporter of that evil regime and a supporter of communism. The ability of the Soviet regime to survive has been partly and perhaps largely due to support from Western trade. Even the ability to calculate costs of production in the Soviet Union (or anywhere else) depend on the existence of free or relatively free markets. More important, perhaps, than the material value of trade with the west is the value to the Soviets of all kinds of *information* that is passed from the west. But, perhaps the greatest support free countries give to the Soviet Union's regime is moral. The people oppressed by the Soviet Union are not only betrayed by the actions of the freer nations, but they even, to a large extent, *know* that they've been betrayed, and that hurts. I'm sure Solzhenitsyn (spelling?) would back up my remarks, but are there any net readers out there who can/dare_to provide first hand information? on this? Norm Andrews AT&T Information Systems Mail Station HO1C325 Crawfords Corner Road Holmdel, New Jersey 07733 vax135!ariel!norm (201) 834-3685