Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!DBarker%PCO@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA From: DBarker%PCO@CISL-SERVICE-MULTICS.ARPA Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Holst and \"2001\" Message-ID: <6902@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 2-Jan-85 11:48:56 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.6902 Posted: Wed Jan 2 11:48:56 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 4-Jan-85 00:12:57 EST Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Organization: Ballistic Research Lab Lines: 24 I can confirm that none of the Planets was used in 2001. - however there was more than just the Strauss brothers on parade (that IS a joke...). In particular extracts from 3 pieces by the Hungarian composer Gyorgy Ligeti - Lux Aeterna, Requiem and Atmospheres - were used without his consent - I believe he even tried to sue Kubrick. The Requiem extract is used when the apes are investigating the monolith. Lux Aeterna when the moon vehicle is travelling towards TMA-1 and Atmoshperes when Dave Bowman takes his "trip" through the stargate. I agree with all that has been said about John Williams "scores" for recent movies. Basically the guy is a talentless dingbat who cons people with (not-so) elegant pastiches of other - far better - composers. I am assured (by people daft enough to have seen the film) that the main theme to E.T. is a dead ringer for the theme from Born Free - they even rhyme! And has no-one else noticed that the Star Wars theme and the Superman theme are practically identical - play one to me with no visuals and I can't tell them apart. I suspect that Holst may be out of copyright now - he died in 1934 (along with Elgar and Delius - a bad year for English composers!). Certainly he wasn't a mere 9-10 years ago when Imogen (Gustav's daughter) successfully stomped on Tomita's electronic version of The Planets and made RCA (?) withdraw it after a few weeks on the shelves - this is a rare record now...