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From: mwm@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA
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Subject: Re: Re:Democracy and Libertarianism
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Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 12:56:25 EST
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>From orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER) Wed Dec 31 16:00:00 1969
> The reason that democracy and a certain amount of compromise is necessary
> is because ALL (100%) of the people in a group will never agree to
> ANYTHING!  Have you ever been in a group of people in which everyone
> totally agreed?  Such an event may occur but it is comparatively rare
> and limited to small groups. Therefore when disagreements over which
> actions the group should take arise and decisions must be made, then 
> a democratic vote seems one of the best ways of making such decisions.

No problems there - democracy is an excellent way for a group to decide
what to do. However, that doesn't give the group the right to include
people who don't want to be in the group.

The union example is a nice starting point. The 80% who want to be in a
union have the right to join/form a union, and cast votes among themselves
as to how they should act as a group. They don't have the right to force
the obligations of being a member on others who don't want the benefits at
that price. Likewise, should some member of the union decide that he is
unhappy with the price/benefit ratio, he should be able to opt out.