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From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg Kuperberg)
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Subject: Let's Goetz serious (long due to NY Times article).
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Date: Sat, 12-Jan-85 18:06:07 EST
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> < I don't think Goetz is a hero.  I think he is an anti-hero.
> < I'm more than a bit disgusted with those who think he IS a hero.  
> 
>    My sentiment exactly.
>               Terry Bermes

Here's something for you to chew on, you bleeding-heart liberal:

[Reprinted without permission from the NY Times, January 10, page B-3]

        Four Youths Shot by Goetz Faced Criminal Counts

                       by Selwyn Raab


    Each of the four teen-agers shot in a subway train last month by
Bernhard Hugo Goetz had been arrested or convicted at least once and each
was facing a trial or a hearing on criminal charges at the time of the
incident.  According to court records, the young men - Barry Allen, Darrel
Cabey, Troy Canty and James Ramseur - had been arrested in unrelated cases
in Manhattan, the Bronx and Mount Vernon, N.Y., in the last two years.
Mr. Cabey, who is 19 years old, lapsed into a coma yesterday at St.
Vincent's Hospital and Medical Center in Manhattan after suffering
"respiratory arrest," a hospital spokesman, Dan Sorrenti, said.  Mr.
Sorrenti said Mr. Cabey's condition was "critical" and that he was
breathing with the aid of a respirator.  Last week Mr. Cabey contracted
pneumonia, Mr. sorrenti added.
     Mr. Cabey suffered the most serious injury of the four teen-agers who
were shot by Mr. Goetz on Dec. 22 after, occording to the police, they
crowded around him and ask for money.  Hospital officials said Mr. Cabey is
paralyzed below the waist.
     
[Here's the fun part]

                     ARRESTED IN ARMED ROBBERY

     The youths, who were friends, all live in the Morrisania section of
the South Bronx.
     Mr. Cabey was arrested in the Bronx on Oct. 13 on charges that he held
up three men with a shotgun and stole an undetermined amount of cash and
jewelry.  The police said Mr. Cabey, and another man who is being sought,
committed the robbery in a vestibule of the Morris Houses, a New York City
Housing Authority building at 3603 Third Avenue in Morrisania.
     Shortly after the robbery, the victims pointed out Mr. Cabey to police
officers who were searching the building and he was identified as one of
the robbers, according to a spokesman for the Bronx District Attorney's
office.  Mr. Cabey, who lives at 423 East 168th Street, about two blocks
from the holdup scene, was freed on $2,000 bail in October after pleading
not guilty.  No trial date was set.

[He probably needed Goetz's fiver to cover the $2,000 bail. :-)]

     He faces a meximum prison term of 25 years if convicted on charges of
robbery, use of a firearm and possession of stolen property.
     Two screwdrivers were found in his jacket after Mr. Cabey was wounded
in the subway shooting, the police said.

                    FOUR ARRESTS SINCE AGE 16

     Mr. Canty is awaiting trial in Manhattan on charges that on Dec. 4 he
broke into a video-game machine at O'Boyle's Pub, at 206 West 23d Street,
and stole $14 in quarters.  He was released in his own recognizance for a
hearing on misdemeanor counts of petty larceny and criminal mischief in the
case.  A misdemeanor conviction carries a penalty of less than one year in
prison.  Mr. Canty, 19 of 1372 Washington Avenue, has been arrested four
times since he was 16 years old.  His first arrest was in Times Square, for
criminal possession of stolen property, in January 1982.  He pleaded guilty
to a reduced misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct and was released on a
conditional discharge, a setnence in which neither a a jail term nor a fine
is imposed.
     In April 1982, Mr. Canty was convicted of possession of stolen
property, a felony that can carry a prison term of more than one year.  He
was placed on three year's probation.
     In March 1983, he was arrested in the Bronx for petty larceny,
possession of burglar tools and criminal mischief.  Petty larceny involves
the theft of property worth less than $250.  He pleaded guilty to petty
larceny and served 20 days in a Riker's Island jail.

                        COURT DATE POSTPONED

     He served another jail term of 30 days on Riker's Island after
pleading guilty to petty larceny in Manhattan in Decmeber 1983.
     According to records in Bronx Criminal Court, Mr. Canty has three
outstanding summonses in that borough for fare-beating and mischief in the
subways.  A court appearance on Jan. 2 was postponed with no new date set.
     Mr. Allen, who is 19 and also lives in a building at 1372 Washington
Avenue, is facing a jail sentence for violating probation.
     He was first arrested in 1982 at the age of 16 in the Bronx for
attempted assault after being accused of shooting another youth in the hand
with a BB gun.  He was placed on probation for oen year fater pleading
guilty.  In 1982 he also was given a conditional discharge in the Bronx
after pleading guilty to breaking into a video-game machine.
     On April 18, 1983 he was arrested in the Bronx on charges of stealing
$90.75 in quarters from a jukebox.  He pleaded guilty to a larceny charge
and was put on probation for one year.  Probation is an alternative to a
prison sentence in which a person is required to report periodically to a
probation officer for guidance.
     During his probation Mr. Allen was given three summonses in the Bronx
for fare-beating but failed to appear in court to answer the charges,
according to Criminal Court records.  He is scheduled for a court hearing
on Jan. 25 in the Bronx for allegedly violating his probation.
     Mr. Ramseur, 18, of 3673 Third Avnue, has been arrested four times
since 1982 on misdemeanor charges of petty larceny and criminal trespass.
He was sentenced to two 60-day jail sentences on Rikers Island in 1983, for
criminal mischief and for petty larceny.
     He also faces misdemeanor charges in the Bronx for fare-beating,
smoking marijuana in the subway and possession of marijuana.

[Probably needed Goetz's money to pay for the weed. :-)]

     Mr. Ramseur has been in Belleveue Hospital since he was shot by Mr.
Goetz.  The police said Mr. Ramseur also was carrying a screwdriver during
the subway incident.

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			Greg Kuperberg
		     harvard!talcott!gjk

"Nice boy, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." - Foghorn Leghorn