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From: ark@alice.UUCP (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Reply to Brad Andrews
Message-ID: <3286@alice.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 15-Jan-85 15:19:21 EST
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Posted: Tue Jan 15 15:19:21 1985
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> How is my attitude any diferent than yours?  Will you ever be convinced that
> abortion is murder?  If not, shouldn't you leave?  Or is this only a forum
> for converting people who foolishly believe that abortion is wrong to change
> their ways and allow it? (note the sarcasm) Why should you have any more right
> to discuss here than I?

Answers: (1) I don't know; I can't read your mind, but I suspect your
attitude is different in many ways.  (2) Maybe.  (3) This doesn't need
an answer.  (4) I don't.  But when you say "This is what I believe,
I have no choice about it, and I am never going to change, and I
believe it because it's right, so there!"  my response is: "Well
whoopee for you.  You will probably not convince me of ANYTHING without
reason.


> Going on to the question of when life begins.  If it does not begin at
> conception, then when does it begin?  At birth?  When a child is 5 years old?
> When he/she can fully care for himself/herself?  What does life consist of?
> This is the foundational question, and the reason why a loose belief in
> regards to human life before physical birth leads to infant killing and
> euthenasia(sp?).

Surely you're not going to tell me that a sperm cell isn't alive!

Actually, you're ignoring the most important question.  You know,
the one I asked a few weeks ago that no one has yet answered for
me convincingly:  why is killing a human different from killing
an animal?  I am, of course, asking somewhat rhetorically.  It
seems to me that until this question is answered completely, any
argument about whether a fetus, or a baby for that matter, is alive
is completely specious.