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From: shallit@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Shallit)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Do those for gun control "hate guns"?
Message-ID: <290@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 9-Jan-85 18:42:47 EST
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Posted: Wed Jan  9 18:42:47 1985
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Reply-To: shallit@gargoyle.UUCP (Jeff )
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Summary: 

In article <> josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) writes:
>
>The fact that the gun controllers response is emotional is of consideral
>importance.  This is why gun control is touted as a panacea--if they
>don't get it for one reason there are lots of other reasons they can 
>trot out.  In private conversations with such people it becomes
>immediately apparent that their basic motive is a dislike of guns.
>I have even had net correspondents admit it outright--perhaps Jeff Shallit
>is honest enough to do so here.
>

     This sort of statement is not only ludicrous, but insulting.
I don't "hate guns".  From day to day, I don't even think much about them,
much less "hate" them.  

     What I do hate is the thought of more than 30 people killed each
day by handguns.  And I believe that strong national handgun laws
which (a) required each person buying a handgun to take a course
(b) required background checks (c) required detailed record-keeping
would cause the number of deaths to go down substantially.  I also
think banning the sale of handguns would dramatically decrease the
number of deaths.  Apparently Hall doesn't think so.  We disagree.

     As for the sentence containing the word "honest"--this is a ploy
that should be familiar to anyone who ever debated, and I assume
most netters recognize it.  Either I admit his premise, or I'm
"dishonest".  Pure drivel.

Jeff Shallit
University of Chicago