Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site spp2.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!whuxlm!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwspp!spp2!jhull From: jhull@spp2.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: schools, education, ... Message-ID: <345@spp2.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Jan-85 17:49:30 EST Article-I.D.: spp2.345 Posted: Tue Jan 8 17:49:30 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Jan-85 23:34:07 EST References: <2150@randvax.UUCP> <2628@ihldt.UUCP> <2173@randvax.UUCP> <546@unmvax.UUCP> <27@ucbcad.UUCP> <558@unmvax.UUCP> Reply-To: jhull@spp2.UUCP (Jeff Hull) Distribution: net Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach CA Lines: 23 Summary: In article <558@unmvax.UUCP> cliff@unmvax.UUCP writes: >...To make teaching fun again there should be >more expulsions of unruly students. I am sure that such a measure would do >more to bring up the overall level of education of each student than any >other element of integration, whether it be racial or fiscal. If Joe Thug gets >expelled, he can come back later when he decides he really wants an education. > Every time (that I know of) that this has been tried, there has been such an outcry that it has been stopped. It seems that most of the students so expelled are [minority, poor, ...] and, so the argument goes, the expulsions were yet another ploy to deny the benefits of education to [minority, poor, ...]. Truth is, the [minority, poor, ...] who were expelled were unruly. I think this is because they have role models who [reject any authority figures, put down the value of education, ...], but I have no real basis for such a belief (It is intuitively obvious ... :-) ). -- Blessed Be, Jeff Hull ihnp4!trwrb!trwspp!spp2!jhull 13817 Yukon Ave. Hawthorne, CA 90250