Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: re: frequenting the wrong peoples wives Message-ID: <4945@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-Jan-85 00:31:14 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.4945 Posted: Thu Jan 17 00:31:14 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Jan-85 00:31:14 EST References: <495@hou5g.UUCP Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 43 Reply to Julia Harper: These are the lines of the article Julia is upset with: Now certainly there is a lot of petty crime there, and a lot of burglery too, but mugging was unheard of, and in order to get shot or stabbed you had to frequent the wrong bars or the wrong people's wives. Julia says that this is a perfect example of the societal norm of assuming that people are men, and identifying women only through their role as connected with someone else. Julia, can you read, or are you only looking for excuses for a favourite argument? Whoever (I forget whom) posted this was pointing out that this was the only way to get shot or stabbed. Presumably, thare means that whereever that was there is at least 2 (notice the plural: wives) people who will shoot or stab those who frequent their wives. What is your beef? That people shouldn't get so steamed about adultery? Well, I agree, but that sure doesn't sound like what you said. Point of fact it sounds like you are the one that are making the sexual generalisations... You may think that women are only being viewed as a role but in assuming that it wasn't a lesbian woman (or a bi-sexual woman) you are assuming that Gays ``don't exist''. Gays have been complaining of this for a while... What, say you .. the reality is that men shoot men for frequenting their wives and they don't shoot their wives' girlfriends? Bingo. You are now asserting exactly what the original person said: the reality is that frequenting certain bars and certain people's wives was how one got shot in that town. But then, reality is never so much fun as finding an excuse to voice a favoured hatred. . . whether it is the feminist hatred, or the gun hatred, or the Christian hatred... laura creighton utzoo!laura