Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site houxm.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!hoxna!houxm!gregbo From: gregbo@houxm.UUCP (Greg Skinner) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: RE2:start of something new Message-ID: <1057@houxm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 3-Jan-85 02:34:22 EST Article-I.D.: houxm.1057 Posted: Thu Jan 3 02:34:22 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Jan-85 23:46:27 EST References: <1002@ihuxe.UUCP> Followup-To: net.religion Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 83 > From: rainbow@ihuxe.UUCP >>>> Jeff S. >>> rainbow >> gregbo > rainbow >>>> I know better than to ask a woman to go to bed right off the bat (even >>>> though that may be what I want). >>> Only sinners have thoughts like that..... > --Thou shalt not commit adultry-- > Matthew 5.28: "But I tell you that anyone who looks lustfully > at a women has in his heart already committed adultry." >> *ALL* men have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. >> Why do you think that wanting to go to bed with someone is irreligious? > When did the ten commandments become nine? Or, better, when did > covetting your neighbors wife become acceptable Christian behavior? For one thing, adultery != wanting to make love to somebody (now perhaps, adultery == wanting to fsck somebody, but I'm talking about making love here, no lust intended). > Anyway(more seriously), this attitude is what turned me away from religion. > There are just too many Christians who think nothing of sinning because God > knows they are imperfect and will forgive their transgressions. Therefore > they go ahead and do what they like. I am not advocating that anybody go to bed with somebody who they are not mar- ried to. What I was trying to say above is that the sin is the lustful thought, however God still loves the sinner (but hates the sin). It is not *acceptable* but God will forgive it anyhow, if the sinner acknowledges his sin. (If you want to hear more about this, let's continue it in net.religion please.) > Also, when did the Bible stop referring to women who indulge outside of > marriage as anything else but loose? And that men who associate with such > are every bit as sinful. But then again I've not been following the latest > trends to closely. Things may have changed and become more liberal > in order to keep today's youth in the fold. Again, I never said that such activity was ok. It isn't. However, you have got to understand that God forgives man's sins. (More discussion in net.relig- ion.) >> Religion has *nothing* to do with it. > It goes without saying that religion should not condone such behavior > and that religion should have nothing to do with it. What I was trying to say here is that a person's going to have lustful thoughts no matter what religion they are -- that's because all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23). >> Don't you think married Christians go to bed with their mates? > Did I miss this important event? When did Jeff get married? Who is the > unlucky, ah er I mean lucky, bride? Nope, he's not married. I don't think you should equate having sex with some- one as a sin (that's what you did in your original article) and I was pointing out that it's OK to have sex with your spouse. >> Some unmarried ones do too, probably, but I won't get into that :-) > Yes, but with who's wives? No one's wives! They have sex with other unmarried people. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'm not going to say anything else on this subject in this newsgroup. It's to be followed up in net.religion (note the header) so PLEASE don't continue this discussion here! -- Baby tie your hair back in a long white bow ... Meet me in the field, behind the dynamo ... Greg Skinner (gregbo) {allegra,cbosgd,ihnp4}!houxm!gregbo