Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site alice.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!alice!jj From: jj@alice.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Sigh, Still Goetz? Message-ID: <3287@alice.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Jan-85 15:55:44 EST Article-I.D.: alice.3287 Posted: Tue Jan 15 15:55:44 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jan-85 05:40:53 EST References: <3279@alice.UUCP>, <742@hou2h.UUCP> Organization: New Jersey State Farm for the Terminally Bewildered Lines: 39 OK, Mark, let's accept that he just isn't a vigilante. Then just what DO we call Mr. Goetz? Since vigilante presumes organization, what could we call a bunch of UN-organized folks wandering around "protecting" us from ourselves. Can't we ALL wait until we know some of the facts? Can't we ALL assume that we don't know exactly what happened, when none of us do. I realize that you clearly have a priveleged viewpoint, since you are sure beyond any shadow of a doubt that he was facing four life-threatening criminals. I won't believe that until I hear some facts, stated, for once, in a non-self-contradictory fashion. (And here we're talking about the "information" that the "news" media is selling us.) I'm sorry you don't like my hypothetical examples. Still, that's YOUR problem, not mine. I can easily imagine that someone ELSE is disturbed enough to think I'm a mugger, even though I don't look/act/feel/etc like one at all. I didn't bring up Goetz in those paragraphs, you did. I didn't draw ANY parallel, you assumed them. Why? I suggested that others could take the "hero" welcome that Goetz is getting as encouragement, and go on a rampage. (I'm NOT suggesting that Goetz DID, you notice!) I'm not claiming that Goetz was wrong, I argued that he wasn't automatically right. You seem to profess the same opinion. Why don't you act that way? JJ -- TEDDY BEARS PROTECT PENGUINS FROM WALRUSES "I wish I was home again, back home in my heart again, it's been such a time since my heart's home to me. ..." (allegra,harpo,ulysses)!alice!jj