Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!gargoyle!shallit From: shallit@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Jeff Shallit) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Do those for gun control "hate guns"? Message-ID: <290@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Jan-85 18:42:47 EST Article-I.D.: gargoyle.290 Posted: Wed Jan 9 18:42:47 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Jan-85 23:06:47 EST References: <> <265@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <2223@randvax.UUCP> <2228@randvax.UUCP> <636@whuxlm.UUCP> <> Reply-To: shallit@gargoyle.UUCP (Jeff ) Organization: U. Chicago - Computer Science Lines: 31 Summary: In article <> josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) writes: > >The fact that the gun controllers response is emotional is of consideral >importance. This is why gun control is touted as a panacea--if they >don't get it for one reason there are lots of other reasons they can >trot out. In private conversations with such people it becomes >immediately apparent that their basic motive is a dislike of guns. >I have even had net correspondents admit it outright--perhaps Jeff Shallit >is honest enough to do so here. > This sort of statement is not only ludicrous, but insulting. I don't "hate guns". From day to day, I don't even think much about them, much less "hate" them. What I do hate is the thought of more than 30 people killed each day by handguns. And I believe that strong national handgun laws which (a) required each person buying a handgun to take a course (b) required background checks (c) required detailed record-keeping would cause the number of deaths to go down substantially. I also think banning the sale of handguns would dramatically decrease the number of deaths. Apparently Hall doesn't think so. We disagree. As for the sentence containing the word "honest"--this is a ploy that should be familiar to anyone who ever debated, and I assume most netters recognize it. Either I admit his premise, or I'm "dishonest". Pure drivel. Jeff Shallit University of Chicago