Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hcrvx1.UUCP Path: utzoo!hcrvax!hcrvx1!tracy From: tracy@hcrvx1.UUCP (Tracy Tims) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Male voices over female commercials Message-ID: <1070@hcrvx1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 9-Jan-85 09:37:32 EST Article-I.D.: hcrvx1.1070 Posted: Wed Jan 9 09:37:32 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Jan-85 03:24:26 EST References: <448@wlcrjs.UUCP> <8207@watarts.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto Lines: 35 ...a male voice began affirming the importance of this publication to all working women. ...the idea that we, as women, need a man to help us make up our minds ... should be one of the first items we need to delete from the world mind as we try to gain the place which is rightfully ours as people and individuals. Jeanette L. Zobjeck Come on now! I hardly think that "male voices in female commercials" are something to get so uppity about. Quit the "women of the world, unite!" stuff. I agree that discrimination in ANY form, against men OR women, is unacceptable. There is no need, though for your type of reaction, which ranges on paranoia. Kevyn Collins-Thompson I think it's interesting that you are criticizing something ("male voices in female commercials") that wasn't really being discussed. The real issue ("lack of female credibility") is more cogent. Even if you *were* talking about what JLZ was talking about, you'd have to offer some evidence that her perceptions are not true to life before you could claim she was being paranoid. Otherwise you're just blowing wind. Her desire to increase people's belief in the competence of women (for that is what it is, in another guise) strikes me as a worthy goal, and not a pointless rallying point for a power group. Your use of the term "uppity" is insulting and a put down, at best, and serves as an excellent example of what she is talking about. (Dismissal of a person's beliefs for reasons which have nothing to do with the validity of the beliefs.) Tracy Tims {linus,allegra,decvax}!watmath!... Human Computing Resources Corporation {ihnp4,utzoo}!... Toronto, Ontario, Canada. 416 922-1937 ...hcr!hcrvx1!tracy