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[David Rubin states:]  
> Regarding nationalism, I suggest Martillo not limit his diatribes to
> Moslems.  It seems almost all nationalistic movements, even if they
> begin constructively (preservation of culture, furthering of identity,
> advancement of education), assume malevolent form (supression of other
> nationalities).  It is not something peculiar to Arabs or Islam, nor
> something from which Jews are themselves immune.
> 

Now that David Rubin and Rich Rosen have again demonstrated their universal
love for all of mankind, maybe now we can discuss the facts.              

To call wholesale murder by Muslim governments of non-Muslim peoples 
"supression" (sic) is a criminal understatement.  It is also a very        
insensitive remark to make, especially since many Bahais, Kurds, black
Christians, and ethnic Chinese are continuing to be murdered every day by
these governments.

Martillo is definitely not singling out Arabs; Muslims in Indonesia and 
Malaysia are especially well-known for their brutality and inhumanity.
If you can find any ethnic Chinese left in these countries, just ask any
one of them.

Finally, we should ask how nationalist movements like Zionism, Gandhi-ism,
and the American civil rights movement managed to avoid including wholesale
murder as a basic policy.  Islam is an historically mature movement, with an
age of over a thousand years, and yet still shows no willingess to accept
the basic tenets of civilized society.

American Jews, more than any other people in this country, should be 
especially and painfully aware of the treatment their brothers have had
at the hands of these governments.

					     bill peter
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