Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site cybvax0.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: the Universe, w/o antecedents Message-ID: <313@cybvax0.UUCP> Date: Sat, 5-Jan-85 10:05:55 EST Article-I.D.: cybvax0.313 Posted: Sat Jan 5 10:05:55 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 8-Jan-85 02:38:43 EST References: <2163@umcp-cs.UUCP> <1074@aecom.UUCP> Reply-To: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) Distribution: net Organization: Cybermation, Inc., Cambridge, MA Lines: 26 Summary: In article <1074@aecom.UUCP> teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) writes: > How do you scientifically explain the big bang? How can something just > be there? Mustn't there be a conservation of energy? Where did it all come > from in the beginning? (Obnoxious flame on...) How do you theologically explain God? How can he just be there? Mustn't he have had parents or something? Where did he come from in the beginning? :-) (Obnoxious flame off...) It is easy to reach the limits of knowledge. On any subject. The fact that knowledge is incomplete does not diminish the validity of that knowledge. Now, there really has recently been proposed a quantum bubble theory of the origin of universes as big bangs. It maintains conservation of energy. It's been published in respected scientific journals. However, we can still ask how the before-our-universe situation came about. By the way, it's occurred to me that the idea of God having always existed is not really supported by the Bible. All the Bible really says is that God is supposed to be older than everything we know of. That's not necessarily infinite. For all we know, he had parents, but is too self-important to let us in on it. -- Mike Huybensz ...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh