Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84 chuqui version 1.7 9/23/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!nsc!chuqui From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuqui Q. Koala) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Yellow Press in SciFi? Message-ID: <2189@nsc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 10-Jan-85 23:34:48 EST Article-I.D.: nsc.2189 Posted: Thu Jan 10 23:34:48 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Jan-85 02:46:43 EST References: <1253@hou4b.UUCP> <454@mhuxt.UUCP> <4554@cbscc.UUCP> Reply-To: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuqui Q. Koala) Organization: The Warlocks Cave Lines: 40 Summary: > >>[from Jeff Sonntag:] >>I seem to remember reading another story once where the man who discovered the >>fact that the earth revolves around the sun was put on trial by the catholic >>church for heresy. And another where some religious nuts run something called >>the 'Spanish Inquisition', where they tortured lots of innocent people. And >>another story where religious people accused each other of being 'witches' >>and burned, hung, tortured, crushed beneath stones, etc each other. Those >>writers must really have some kind of private grudge against religion! I >>guess I'll just have to agree with Mark Terrible on this one. :-) >> Wait a minute! I just remembered where I read those stories! My high >>school history class. > >Forgive me for even bothering with this response, but there is still something >that bothers me about tounge-in-cheek statements like this. The lop-sided >evidence Jeff marshalls against religion only seems to reveal his own private >grudge against it. A more balanced approach to history might reveal far >greater atrocities in countries where religious belief is routed and atheism >is the rule. In those cases it is often claimed that such perfideous actions >had nothing to do with the religious belief (or lack thereof) of their >perpetrators. It's just a little strange that that it is often inferred that >the religious beliefs (especially if they are Christian beliefs) have a >direct causual link with things like the Inquisition and Salem Witch Trials. The thing to remember that the people who did all of those wonderful atrocities weren't really religious people at all-- they only RAN the church, something completely different. Faith and religion isn't the organization, it is the feeling, and you will always find those that will attempt to pervert your beliefs to their own purposes. Smart people see through these shameless shams, the rest send money to Jerry Falwell. -- From the ministry of silly talks: Chuq Von Rospach {allegra,cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA Now look here Mister "I'm not just a word processor"...