Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amdcad!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot From: chabot@amber.DEC (l s chabot) Newsgroups: net.women,net.women.only Subject: Re: Male voices over female commercials Message-ID: <181@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-Jan-85 11:30:25 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.181 Posted: Fri Jan 11 11:30:25 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Jan-85 13:07:44 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 29 Xref: watmath net.women:4109 net.women.only:331 Kevyn Collins-Thompson == > > I hardly think that "male voices in female commercials" are something to get > so uppity about. Quit the "women of the world, unite!" stuff. I agree that > discrimination in ANY form, against men OR women, is unacceptable. There is > no need, though for your type of reaction, which ranges on paranoia. "Come on now", yourself, Kevyn: try to imagine things from someone else's point of view. If women are annoyed by the addition of a male voice for the purpose of adding authority to commercials aimed at women, respect the fact that they have a right to the opinions. Labelling such disagreements that they have as bordering on paranoia is just adding to the problem--the problem IS discrimination: in this case, it's the prejudice that women aren't sufficient to convey authority or informed opinion, it's the prejudice that women want to hear that a man says it's okay to do. Sure, if everything was equal now, probably nobody would care who spoke during commercials. But that's not the way things are, yet. Since women have been raised mostly to be quieter than men and to listen to men's opinions as being superior to their own, actually, "women of the world, unite!" is a very good thing to call out--in uniting, women can discover the equal importance of their opinions and concerns, which is a fact which when those opinions were kept quiet and subordinate before men, could not be realized. For instance: women were not given the vote by some generous men, the suffragettes had to meet and decide they want it and join with others to have the power and the numbers to bring their wants to public attention. L S Chabot UUCP: ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot ARPA: ...chabot%amber.DEC@decwrl.ARPA