Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Do those for gun control "hate guns"? Message-ID: <292@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Date: Thu, 10-Jan-85 18:40:08 EST Article-I.D.: gargoyle.292 Posted: Thu Jan 10 18:40:08 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Jan-85 01:32:51 EST References: <> <265@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <2223@randvax.UUCP> <2228@randvax.UUCP> <636@whuxlm.UUCP> <> <> Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Organization: U. Chicago - Computer Science Lines: 26 In article <> josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) writes: > The fact that the gun controllers' response is emotional is of considerable > importance. This is why gun control is touted as a panacea--if they > don't get it for one reason there are lots of other reasons they can > trot out. In private conversations with such people it becomes > immediately apparent that their basic motive is a dislike of guns. > I have even had net correspondents admit it outright--perhaps Jeff Shallit > is honest enough to do so here. World-class bullshit, but Jeff has made an adequate response and I would just like to ask JoSH what his explanation is for the alleged fact that advocates of handgun control hate guns. I can't imagine why anyone would hate or even dislike guns--I love 'em, myself. For those who may be unaware, JoSH is the gentleman who "moderates" fa.poli-sci by appending his own smartass comments to each article. JoSH belongs to that unfortunate class of people who believe that their own point of view is the only possible one for a decent and reasonable person to hold (like James Watt, who divides the U.S. population into "liberals" and "Americans"). A person with this kind of outlook is the last person who should be moderating a political discussion. One need only note how JoSH attacks the motives of the advocates of handgun control in the above-quoted article, claiming that they don't care if the murder rate increases 100-fold. That doesn't deserve a reply. Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes