Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Re: More on justice Message-ID: <66@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-Jan-85 21:19:42 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.66 Posted: Thu Jan 17 21:19:42 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Jan-85 01:56:14 EST References: <283@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <1175@ut-ngp.UUCP> <671@bunker.UUCP> <656@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 27 > >I think that "depriving the rightful owner" is synonomous with > >"without authority." > > > >Therefore, taxation is not theft; the question remains, however, > >is what the government does taxation or theft? I.e., does the > >government have the authority to levy taxes? (Answers of the > >form, "no, because taxation IS theft" are question-begging.) > > It all becomes crystal clear now: Taxation is not theft, because it's being > done by the government. The same actions, taken for the same reasons, by > somebody other than the government, would be theft. Looks like you're > begging the question just a bit, too. No, what he is saying is, "The government defines what is right and what is wrong". > Now, if you think that the government has the right to tax you, are you > going to argue with it's right to spend the money as the duly elected > officials decree? Such things as the SDI, more missiles, enforced > discrimination, 100% retirement pay for some federal employees, etc? I will say that it is right to spend the money as the duly elected officials decree. I will also say it is right to elect officials who are going to spend the money however you want them to. You elected those officials who are buying missles, so why are you complaining about them? Wayne