Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihdev.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!ihdev!rjv From: rjv@ihdev.UUCP (ron vaughn) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: mr. thoughtless speaks out Message-ID: <150@ihdev.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Jan-85 22:27:26 EST Article-I.D.: ihdev.150 Posted: Sat Jan 19 22:27:26 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Jan-85 00:48:53 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 82 /* if your not in on this jeff vs. ron thinggy, don't read on. i'm sorry this is dragging on like this, i thought he'd have caught on by now.... this can't go on *much* longer, and then i'll quite bugging the group with postings like these, promise. ("thank god", the net sighs) */ > jeff sargent > Ken Kaufman was quite on the mark in referring to your >remarks as "thoughtless". It seems that *you* have failed to learn some things >that *I* have learned, and that perhaps you ought to be putting *yourself* down >if you are honest -- or, rather, in order to do something constructive, >learning a few principles of common courtesy in your dealings with people. jeff, i'm not so rude as to disrupt a group intended for the WORLD, using it as a personal crutch, making half the people 'n'-key away half(or 1/3) the group. i'm not so rude as to ask for advice, and then throw it back in peoples faces, ALL THE TIME. i'm not so rude as to completely disregard ANY of the "hints" i've given you. thoughtless?? i thought long and hard over the letters i've posted about you, i put out exactly what i wanted, and have elicited exactly the response i anticipated. thoughtless?? this is a CAREFULLY set up plan to make you realize what a pain you are, first the letter in flame, then a letter in singles, now the poll (new numbers are in, see below), next the actual request in net.new.groups. if this all fails an electronic letter bomb (a new at&t product, you heard it here first) will be mailed to your account, wiping purdue off the map. (all other purdue residents will be given ample notice). we are on schedule, we will win, we will control!!!!!!(that was my nazi impression, what'd you think??) of course i'm kidding, but those letters were NOT thoughtless. ron critiques himself: i saw a problem in net.singles. YOU, jeff. i really like singles, and wanted to remove the problem. (which doesn't necessarily mean removing you...) the problem is your ridiclous, repititous postings (we've talked about them enough, you know the ones). if you'd just STOP with those stupid same-old-stuff postings, and throwing advice back in peoples faces, THAT would have removed the problem. could someone send you a letter saying "jeff, stop throwing advice back in peoples faces??" no, that was tried, and you threw THAT advice back in their face. so i thought, maybe if i can make jeff wake up, realize HE'S a problem, and others (a majority!) think he's a problem. i'll resort to trying to make him see everyone wants him off the net, and then he'll wake up and see his mistake in postings. so the campaign started. was this the right thing to do?? votes still out, but i don't think it was too bad an idea. at least you seem to realize the problem exists, god knows we all do. the only real surprising thing was how many people DID (do) want you kicked off the net, and the overwhelming numbers that would like a net.singles.js. at first i was kidding with that, but it might come about. "but ron, what about the cold, insensitive way jeff has been treated??" sorry about that. what about the way he treats net.singles, or the people who try to help him?? if he comes out a little hurt or upset because i'm such a meanie, i'm sorry, but if he were to start posting like a human being, and quit ruining this group, i'm sure we'd all think it was worth it. look, i'm not a cold insensitive guy, i'm not a meanie, i'm not out to get you, but i thought this was the only way to get you to wake up, and look, my god people, just LOOK at the progress i've made!!!: >Also, if you note carefully, my more recent postings have not been of the >"I'm such a terrible person" variety, but rather "it's such a terrible world." i feel like a proud father!!!! my baby's growing up!!!!!!!!! i know,i know, you're all reading this because you want the latest vote: (drum roll please)....roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool! for singles.js: 21 against : 2 i don't care WHAT you say, jeff and almquist are going to have fun in that group!!! Mr. thoughtless, ron vaughn ...!ihnp4!ihdev!rjv ps: you think I'M mean?? you should SEE some of the fan mail i've received about you. my god, i look like a saint compared to some of the letters i've read received. (but i love 'em!!)