Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hou2f.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!hou2f!stan From: stan@hou2f.UUCP (S.GLAZER) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Degradation and Sex Message-ID: <436@hou2f.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Jan-85 13:14:08 EST Article-I.D.: hou2f.436 Posted: Tue Jan 15 13:14:08 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 16-Jan-85 05:09:06 EST References: <1078@hcrvx1.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 31 Tracy's explainations on attitudes are quite plausable and acceptable with regard to the discussions here on degradation, sex and pornography. I would further qualify, however, her findings that "... people who assume that their own cultural attitudes are the most desireable are pretty close minded and intolerant" would relate only to those who try to place those attitudes on others and not to those who keep such thoughts self contained. Further, Tracy states that"... this particular attitude stems from fear and insecurity: a less than mature response to the criticism implied by non-agreement." Fear and insecurity could be an inmature response to criticism. This however, does not reflect fear and insecurity derived from past experiences (near term knowledge) or from history (long term knowledge). Try, for example, to tell the American Indians that their fear of loosing their cultural attitudes (which I am quite sure they feel is desireable) is an inmature act of insecurity. The fact that any cultural minority group retains those cultural attitudes is proof that they feel those attitudes are the most desireable for them. The fact that they continue to be a minority group is proof that others, by non-agreement, do not accept that view. If that minority group is critised for those attitudes, then depending on the extent and form of the criticism, there may indeed be a valid and mature basis for their fear and insecurity. Stan Glazer AT&T-Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ hou2f!stan