Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxj!houxm!ahuta!houxn!rb From: rb@houxn.UUCP (R.BOTWIN) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.micro.cpm,net.lang.c Subject: Re: an old idea whose time has come again Message-ID: <593@houxn.UUCP> Date: Wed, 16-Jan-85 10:58:31 EST Article-I.D.: houxn.593 Posted: Wed Jan 16 10:58:31 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Jan-85 04:45:58 EST References: <173@abnji.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel NJ Lines: 25 Xref: watmath net.micro:9071 net.micro.cpm:3383 net.lang.c:3907 [] Ah, yes...Memories of my first machine....an old 4K 1130. I miss it muchly...The techniques learned on that machine, at least for me, predate any formal CS training, and are "instinctive" rather than learned by rote... We used to call SOCAL and LOCAL "cram and crunch"....and got around large programming problems by making ALL variables COMMON. We had large payroll systems, personnel systems, even large linear algebra matrix manipulations using this technique. The whole concept of linking, speed trade-offs using core-image loads, relocating programs.....ah, yes.....that was the way to learn! We even knew if we had diagnostics in our compile by the sound of the old 1132 printer....It had a different "rhythm.".....I remember talking on the phone from home to a friend at the computer...in the background was the printer ker-chunking out a listing for him.....I heard the unmistakable tones of a diagnostic report, and told him he had better fix his bugs and re-compile....He thought I was psychic! Rob Botwin, N2FC .....{utah-cs|seismo|decvax}!harpo!eagle!hogpc!houxn!rb ATT/IS Labs (201) 577-5016 (Cornet 8-270-5016) FJ 1B-130