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From: cwh@drutx.UUCP (Hoffmeyer)
Newsgroups: net.books
Subject: The Porno Ord and the Bible
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Date: Thu, 10-Jan-85 13:11:32 EST
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Posted: Thu Jan 10 13:11:32 1985
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> Come to think of it, there are a lot of things in the Bible that seem to
> suggest that women should be treated as property, subjected to the will
> of men, etc.  Including sexually...

Right on!  The bible thumpers have always been an inexhaustible source
of amazement, never more so than now.  The so-called "good book" is, in
some parts, a barbaric document written in barbaric times by barbaric
people.

These guys come marching into "the fertile crescent" - they were an
*invading army* that sacked cities, and slaughtered the inhabitants.

I seem to recall a passage where some man crawls into his bed one night
and has sex with the woman in the bed - turns out it's not his wife!
WHAT!?  Yup!  Seems that the *man* didn't have to give a good d__n (*care*
enough) to check the identity of the woman in the sack with whom (what?)
he was having sex!

"No, Reverend Fundament, I don't want to ban the Bible, I just want to be
sure of what we're discussing - a quasi-historical, poetic, cultural
mythology; a piece of literature written by a primitive and superstitious
people living in a barbaric and singularly non-objective period of history."

Is it great literature?  Yes.  By any measurable standard.  It describes
what is probably the greatest epic story around - the journey of a people,
in time, space, and awareness from creation to godhead.  Is it "good"?
Parts of it, yes.  Clive Staples Lewis called the story of Christ, the
"best" story, because in it the god-man comes to earth, and by His
total sacrifice, destroys mankind's greatest fears, death and despair.

However, I no more wish to have the laws of my country based on the Bible
than to have them based on the Kalevela or the Elder Eddas.

"...no, no we don't do that - not enough trees to spare.  We stone them here."
- Carl drutx!cwh  AT&TIS Denver