Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site amdahl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!crsp!pesnta!amdcad!amdahl!gam From: gam@amdahl.UUCP (gam) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: mr. insensitive speaks out (who am us, anyway?) Message-ID: <1000@amdahl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Jan-85 04:01:57 EST Article-I.D.: amdahl.1000 Posted: Mon Jan 21 04:01:57 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 22-Jan-85 05:26:46 EST References: <144@ihdev.UUCP> <1686@pucc-h> <991@amdahl.UUCP> <2248@nsc.UUCP> Organization: Blue Mouse Trailer Resort, Hellmouth, CA Lines: 52 > > >It's not that we don't want people to be suportive and understanding > >with you, Jeff; we just want you to do it *somewhere else*. > >-- > >Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam > > I should point out that Gordon used the wrong pronoun. 'We' should have > been 'I'. You may be a lot of things, Gordon, but fortunately you aren't > two of them. No, I am *all* of them. This "we" refers to the circa 25 people who so far voiced their approval of net.singles.js. Including me. > Have you people bothered to listen to yourselves? The word inhumane comes > to mind. I haven't seen such actions since the third grade playground where > kids were ostracized for being kids. No, you are quite right. Jeff *is* getting picked on. But it is not inhumane. And it isn't like third graders. No one is saying "Jeff, you putrid scum, your mother wears army boots!" Not at all. But they are saying "Jeff, you are becoming a self-parody and we've lost patience with you. Whatever help you may need you either aren't getting it here or it isn't helping." I understand Jeff has a therapist. I think this is wonderful. I don't think he is mentally ill, but there is some "work to be done" which a therapist can facilitate. If Jeff is truly in need of the council of friends he should probably do it in a more private, approving atmosphere; this newsgroup certainly isn't providing it. It is not unreasonable to expect people to listen to so much sorrow and whining and self-pity that they eventually sicken of it. They would rather excise the problem than give up on the group altogether. And when such crises have arrose, there is naturally a plea to create a new newsgroup that can provide an apparently needed function. Why, this is just net dynamics in action. Chuq, I think it's wonderful that you are willing to spend the time and energy to help Jeff in whatever areas he may need it. Why not do this via e-mail? Or, if it requires a public showing, why not devote an entire newsgroup soley for that purpose? I understand there is a lot of interest in creating such a group. -- Gordon A. Moffett ...!{ihnp4,hplabs,sun}!amdahl!gam