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From: thomas@utah-gr.UUCP (Spencer W. Thomas)
Newsgroups: net.news.stargate
Subject: Re: Stargate new groups?
Message-ID: <1308@utah-gr.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 18-Jan-85 14:39:17 EST
Article-I.D.: utah-gr.1308
Posted: Fri Jan 18 14:39:17 1985
Date-Received: Mon, 21-Jan-85 00:49:49 EST
References: <354@wnuxb.UUCP>
Reply-To: thomas@utah-gr.UUCP (Spencer W. Thomas)
Organization: Univ of Utah CS Dept
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Summary: 

In article <354@wnuxb.UUCP> netnews@wnuxb.UUCP (Ron Heiby) writes:
>Now then, what may happen with a fully moderated stargate distribution
>(which I favor)?  Here's one scenario:
>	1) Someone sends an article to the moderator for sat.news.groups
>		suggesting the need for a newsgroup to discuss FOOBAR.
>	2) Moderator posts the message to sat.news.groups.  The groundrules
>		call for "votes" to be sent either to him/her or to the
>		original suggester (doesn't matter much).
>	3) People send "votes" saying that since there has never been
>		much discussion of FOOBAR, that no new group is needed.
>	4) People start trying to post FOOBAR messages to inappropriate
>		groups, where they are rejected by the moderators.
>	5) Discussions concerning FOOBAR never start.

The way it works on the Arpanet, which has NO formal mechanism for
setting up a new mailing list (sort of equivalent to a newsgroup, but it
comes to your personal mailbox), is that someone says "Gee, I think I'll
start a mailing list about ", and posts a message on either a
related list, or to the arpanet equivalent of net.general, saying
"I'm starting a mailing list about , all those interested, send me
your net address."  So a lot of people send him their net address, and
then people start mailing messages (or don't) to the new list.  If
traffic grows too big, then someone (often not the original person who
started the list) moderates it.  If there's no traffic, then nothing
happens.

So, an equivalent scenario for stargate newsgroups might be
	1) Someone decides he wants a group about .  He finds out
		from the "stargate administrator" how to become a moderator.
	2) He sends out a message to sat.news.group saying that the new
		group exists, and that he is moderating it.
	3) If no traffic occurs, he loses interest, and the group goes away.
	4) If too much traffic occurs, and he runs out of time, he either
		a) finds someone else to moderate the group
		b) gets further and further behind, incurring the wrath of
			posters, until someone else volunteers to moderate
			the group
		c) posts a rmgroup message.

(Please note: "he" above means "he, she, or it", as the case may be.)

Another scenario is to wait until discussion develops in a net.* group,
then find a moderator and start broadcasting it over sat.*.


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