Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-cad.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxj!mhuxr!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-cad!mjc From: mjc@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA (Monica Cellio) Newsgroups: net.legal,net.politics Subject: Re: NYC subway hero Message-ID: <217@cmu-cs-cad.ARPA> Date: Tue, 1-Jan-85 20:24:25 EST Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-c.217 Posted: Tue Jan 1 20:24:25 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 3-Jan-85 03:45:20 EST Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.legal:1165 net.politics:6527 From: pal@crystal.UUCP >Of course you may feel that muggers deserve to die, but I don't think the law >agrees, at least not without due process. Sorry, unless there is evidence that >the killer's response was reasonable in the circumstances, he *is* a criminal, >and a dangerous one. I think the assertion is that his life was in danger; screwdrivers sharpened to points can do really nasty things, and I think the law backs the use of force in kind (i.e. if I am threatened with what I would reasonably percieve as deadly force, I may use deadly force in self defense. The 'reasonably percieve' is there so I don't have to determine that the gun I'm being threatened with is loaded, or whatever...). I don't know the details of the case in question, so I have no idea whether he was defending himself or taking advantage of the situation to recklessly kill four people. -Dragon -- UUCP: ...seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!lll-crg!dragon ARPA: monica.cellio@cmu-cs-cad or dragon@lll-crg