Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site lems.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!talcott!wjh12!foxvax1!brunix!lems!ltn From: ltn@lems.UUCP Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Primary aircraft proposal (longish). Message-ID: <158@lems.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Dec-84 18:03:40 EST Article-I.D.: lems.158 Posted: Thu Dec 27 18:03:40 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 5-Jan-85 01:46:20 EST References: <4@decvax.UUCP> <213@terak.UUCP> <17427@lanl.ARPA> <214@terak.UUCP> <711@amdahl.UUCP>Reply-To: ltn@lems.UUCP (Les Niles) Organization: lems Lines: 32 [] In article doug@terak.UUCP (Doug Pardee) writes: >... >For those who responded that they would like to see an inexpensive >airplane, RUN, don't walk, to your nearest airport. Look over >the bulletin board, walk around the ramp. Any used 2-seater over >$7500 bucks is probably a rip-off, unless it's an almost new >Cessna 152 or the like. Cessna 150s run from $4000 ranked-out >with a run-out engine to about $7000 with nearly new engine. >Including a radio! But don't buy without a mechanic checking it out. > >If you think that the Primary Aircraft proposal will produce planes >that cost less than 10 grand, then we are in grave disagreement >as to the realities of pricing a plane which the manufacturer has >paid over $5000 just for the engine and $1000 for the radio. >... >Doug Pardee -- Terak Corp. -- !{hao,ihnp4,decvax}!noao!terak!doug I've seen this argument before: A *used* C-150 (or even C-172) can easily be bought now for <$10K, and any *new* Primary Aircraft will have to cost well over $10K, so nothing can be gained. Isn't it obvious? A new C-152 now costs ~$30K, and a C-172 is ~$60K. So which will cost less five years from now, a Primary Aircraft that sold new for $15K, or a C-152 that sold new for $30K? I'd bet on the Primary Aircraft, which should get down to $5K or so in good condition. (And therefore open aviation up to that many more people.) As for the new Primary Aircraft, i'm not sure i wouldn't rather spend $15K on one rather than $10K on a "standard" airplane several years old, given the high price of maintenance and the fact that things do start to wear out on older airplanes. -les niles