Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hound.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!hound!5123ecd From: 5123ecd@hound.UUCP (E.DIMPELFELD) Newsgroups: net.movies Subject: 2010: art? bigoted? chauvinistic? fun anyways? Message-ID: <789@hound.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Dec-84 23:07:46 EST Article-I.D.: hound.789 Posted: Fri Dec 14 23:07:46 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 16-Dec-84 04:40:22 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 63I made the mistake of reading the book first. Don't if you want to enjoy the movie in an unhindered fashion. To me there are three kinds of art: EPIC - A tale larger than life and individual persons, trying to make some sense of it all. DRAMA - A tale about life and characters. MELODRAMA - A tale emphasizing plot and action, sacrificing characterization. 2001 was a classic, an epic tale. Told beautifully, slowly, wonderful music. To judge by the volume of comments flowing in, a tale that touched many. 2010 is an action-packed melodrama, a cowboy western. Nonetheless it is an enjoyable action film despite any scientific inaccuracies or inaccurate representations of the book. The "messages" of this movie however are told in too heavy-handed of a manner, too awkwardly. As for inaccuracies, they seem to show that the director was: 1-BIGOTED - were they afraid to show Dr. Chandra as an Indian? 2-STRAIGHT-LACED - were they afraid to include any of the homosexuality? 2aSTRAIGHT-LACED (again) - why did they force the old girlfriend to be a wife? 3-CHAUVINISTIC (nationally speaking) - why did the Russians have to make a mistake (not in the book) that led to Max's death and why were they made so grim and uptight? 4-CHAUVINISTIC (male speaking) why did they need to keep the wife waiting on through three years? ACClarke had the sense to realize that a three year separation is a hardship. 5-MYOPIC - why did they have to interject their concerns about TODAY's problems in South America and east-west relations about a tale which was written about humanities search in the FUTURE for other beings and outer space? 6-UNFASHION-CONSCIOUS - why did the people 26 years in the future continue to wear Merona-like sportwear and Wall-stree business suits when in 2001 the people in the space-station(the waitresses in particular) wore clothing that was definitely different than what we wear today? I seem to recall tights and some kind of tunic. SPECIAL EFFECTS COMMENTS: -I was sad that I could see where strings were holding up the tethers in the space scenes. -I was sad that the surface of Jupter looked computer generated. -The monolith in space seemed to have dimensions of 1:4:50 instead of the 1:4:9 proportions it should have had. - I loved the last view of Europa. That was artistic. Plus the monolith there seemed to be 1:4:9. -Seeing Jupiter's final "big scene" was fun. Seeing Kerr Dullea again was wonderful. I think he is underrated. ENJOY THE MOVIE FOR WHAT IT IS. THEN READto comehomxand.(%244ule eknd.ndarnd. to