Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lanl.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!mlj From: mlj@lanl.ARPA Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: what to teach a daughter about rape? Message-ID: <17809@lanl.ARPA> Date: Tue, 11-Dec-84 19:29:09 EST Article-I.D.: lanl.17809 Posted: Tue Dec 11 19:29:09 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Dec-84 04:48:54 EST References: <186@decwrl.UUCP> Sender: newsreader@lanl.ARPA Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory Lines: 21 > I am a father with twin daughters aged 14. Neither they nor I are ready to > talk about these things but I would like to know what advice to give them > when they are ready for it! Many many years ago the standard advice was to > 1) be firm in saying "no", 2) get away, 3) scream, 4) "lay back and enjoy it" > when all else fails. #4 was instead of fighting physically on the assumption > that the woman could not defeat the man and would only agravate physical damage. When I was in college, a state policeman gave a couple talks/demonstrations on rape, and what to do if attacked. The demonstrations showed how defensive weapons--knives, guns, etc. could be easily used against the victim, and how even mace didn't slow an attacker down--it just made him madder. The women were advised to use their heads--talk to the attacker, try to buy some time. . . Do things that might gross him out, like urinate, defecate, vomit. That may stop him. The most surprising tactic was to pretend to give in, and "pet" him--get a good hold and SQUEEZE LIKE HELL, rendering him useless and so wrapped in pain that the victim can get away. In that condition, he won't be going far, so policemen have a good chance of finding him. Marie-Louise Los Alamos Nat'l Lab