Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site wjvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!wjh12!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!oliveb!ios!wjvax!ron From: ron@wjvax.UUCP (Ron Christian) Newsgroups: net.movies,net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: another 2010 mistake (and more mistakes) Message-ID: <272@wjvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Dec-84 22:42:25 EST Article-I.D.: wjvax.272 Posted: Fri Dec 14 22:42:25 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Dec-84 04:03:11 EST References: <1115@ut-ngp.UUCP> Organization: Watkins Johnson, San Jose, Calif. Lines: 76 Xref: watmath net.movies:5250 net.sf-lovers:5393 *********************Warning! Slight spoiler!!!************************* On the mysterious "returning" pod: According to the book, Bowman went EVA and retrieved the pod he left by the manual entry door. (That means the one in the movie SHOULD have had the door missing. Did anyone catch that? I can't remember.) Also according to the book, the rescue team used this pod by remote control to examine the monolith. This unmanned pod was the one that got destroyed when Bowman returned. I guess the director thought that wasn't dramatic enough. (Let's kill someone off!) I think Bowman's suit when he disconnected Hal was red, with a blue helmet. That makes the headless blue suit in the launch bay the other half. (I may have the colors mixed up.) I thought the Discovery sets looked cheap. The perspective was wrong in some cases, like Schnider's first glimpse of Bowman in the carousel. I heard a rumor that they had to rebuild the sets from footage of 2001, as the plans and original sets were destroyed. Can anyone confirm this? They really screwed up the zero gravity scenes. There is gravity only in the carousel (in Discovery) or the spinning section of the Russian ship. Yet you couldn't tell by the way people moved, objects rested, etc. which part of the ships they were in. Zero gravity depictation is probably an area where movies like Star Wars have actually done damage. Why was the method used to stop the Discovery's spin passed over? Probably because the director didn't understand it himself. See above. The control room of the Russian ship didn't look believable to me, either. No headrests on the chairs. Lots of protrusions to bang your head against in (supposedly) zero gravity. Low resolution graphics on most of the displays. (In 2010???) I *did* like the Russian launch bay. Aside from the fact that everyone was standing around, (AAAARRGH!!!) the set *looked* functional. I didn't hear anyone else complain about the complete axing of the Chinese expedition part in 2010 the movie. Like cutting out half the book. The whole point of the movie was the emergance of life on Europa, and this point was almost completely passed over. Hey, did anyone notice the resurgance of 1984 clothing styles in the year 2010? The apparent fad of wearing antique wrist watches? How about thirty-five year old calculators? Bah! The director should be shot. -- Ron Christian (Watkins-Johnson Co. San Jose, Calif.) {pesnta,twg,ios,qubix,turtlevax,tymix}!wjvax!ron