Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcs!geoff From: geoff@utcs.UUCP (Geoff Collyer) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: System N history correction (unbundling of System V) Message-ID: <296@utcs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Dec-84 17:38:22 EST Article-I.D.: utcs.296 Posted: Fri Dec 21 17:38:22 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Dec-84 17:44:15 EST References: <6605@brl-tgr.ARPA> <400@whuxl.UUCP> Organization: University of Toronto - General Purpose UNIX Lines: 30 Michael Baldwin wrote: > > >Last I heard, IWB is (a) separate, (b) extra cost, and (c) binary-only. > And what's the problem with separate and extra > cost? That's the way you sell operating systems; everybody does that. > It doesn't make sense to sell one monolithic system. In SVR2, even the > text processing tools are separate. So what? Doing something because everybody else does it is pretty mindless, but that's what I've come to expect from USG/USDL/what-ever-they-call-themselves-this-week. That's the way *who* sells operating systems? It's a sad day when UNIX is perceived as a monolithic system. For you newcomers, UNIX was conceived as a reaction *against* monolithic systems; it is a tribute to USG/USDL/...'s destructive power that they have made System V a monolithic system or at least made some people see it that way. As System V is unbundled, I haven't noticed the price of the base system dropping, only the creation of expensive ``work-benches'' which are simply old code that's been hacked over by USG/USDL/... I gather that the trend to unbundling will continue and we can look forward to a base System V Release N consisting of a kernel and a collection of work- benches, including the Concatenator's Work Bench (cat with options), the Editor's Work Bench (ed), the Echoer's Work Bench (echo), the Logician's Work Bench (true and false), the User's Work Bench (login), the Manual Reader's Work Bench (man) and the Sleepy-head's Work Bench (sleep).