Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ames.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxm!sftig!sftri!sfmag!eagle!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!hao!ames!barry From: barry@ames.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Alcoholism, Christianity, and Effective Treatment Message-ID: <726@ames.UUCP> Date: Wed, 26-Dec-84 16:43:38 EST Article-I.D.: ames.726 Posted: Wed Dec 26 16:43:38 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Dec-84 02:58:08 EST References: <1199@trwrba.UUCP> Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Mtn. View, CA Lines: 38 [] From trwrba!suhre (Maurice E. Suhre): > I have noticed postings to this groups suggesting that the > homosexuals should (paraphrasing) give up their lifestyle, > repent their sins, and beg for forgiveness. I am not too > disturbed by such rantings since I am confident that the > gay community will not fall for such baloney. Unfortunately, > I have also noticed an attempt to tar the alcoholics with the > same brush. This is what bothers me. >.... > Similarly, if you want to learn how to not drink and > to live comfortably in the world, you should look up the > people who have demonstrated their ability to not drink > and to live comfortably. Those people can be contacted > through the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous (number > is in the white pages). >.... > One of the standards demanded by the FDA is efficacy of > treatment, particularly for drugs trying to be approved > for the marketplace. Something like 2,000,000 (that's > two million) have recovered through AA. How many have > recovered through bible thumping? Not a flame, just a clarification. Unless things have changed recently, AA has a strong religious (though non-denominational) element in its treatment for alcoholism. While I don't doubt that alcoholic athiests would be welcome, some of the counciling they'd get would likely seem to them better suited for someone more religious. Anyone have any more detailed/current information on AA? "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, Kenn Barry Than to have a frontal lobotomy." NASA-Ames Research Center Moffett Field, CA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- USENET: {ihnp4,vortex,dual,hao,menlo70,hplabs}!ames!barry SOURCE: ST7891