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From: nxs@fluke.UUCP (Bruce Golub)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: handgun control
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Date: Thu, 13-Dec-84 13:45:10 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec 13 13:45:10 1984
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> > There is a poster on my door.  It reads
> > In 1980, handguns killed
> > 77 people in JAPAN
> > 8 in GREAT BRITAIN
> > 24 in SWITZERLAND
> > 8 in CANADA
> > 23 in ISRAEL
> > 18 in SWEDEN
> > 4 in AUSTRALIA
> > 11,522 in the UNITED STATES
> > 
> > Go ahead and explain (with a straight face, please) that gun
> > control doesn't work in Canada.  Or Japan.  Or Sweden.  Or
> > Australia.
> 
> What a fascinating example of propaganda. What about the
> countrys that have low handgun death statistics but
> don't have handgun control? What about the overall crime
> rates in these countrys, and the differences between them.
> Are you over simplifying or did you just choose to ignore
> any statistics that didn't support your opinion.
> 
> Go ahead and explain (with a straight face, please) why you
> left out half the facts
> 
> 			David Fader
> -- 
> Amphibian Defender

Speaking about leaving out half the facts, you (David Fader) left them all
out.
    
Question number 1, David: What country has a low handgun death-rate and no
			  gun control.

In reference to your statement: >What about the overall crime rates in
				these countrys,<

Question number 2, David: Do you mean to imply that a high handgun
			  death-rate is preferable to other crimes (i.e.,
			  trespassing, auto-theft, etc.)? 

Question number 3, David: Why don't you and the Pro-gun lobby grow-up and
			  out of playing cowboys and indians, or better yet
			  go ask Mr O'Roarke(sp?) and Teto to realize your
			  fantasies and leave the rest of us in peace.

(ps. I am not against someone defending themselves with any means that are
required. Personally I wouldn't use a gun. I am opposed however, to letting
every hairbrained idiot purchase a weapon, with no strings attached, no
method of tracing ownership, and way of determining if that person really
needs one.)

go ahead, reach for it

Bruce Golub