Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot From: chabot@amber.DEC (L 'S' Chabot) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: rape and streetwalking Message-ID: <221@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Dec-84 11:48:12 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.221 Posted: Wed Dec 12 11:48:12 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Dec-84 07:21:55 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 80 geoff sherwood == > > I am sorry if my being a man and walking down the street at night is seen as > threatening to a woman walking towards me. However, I adamantly refuse to > cross the street because my presence may bother her. If she is sufficently > bothered by me to cross the street, so be it. I cannot let the (possibility of > hurting the) feelings of others rule my actions or I would be nothing but a > marionette (like the farmer and the donkey in the children's story of old). > Life is tough enough without that onus. Obviously, geoff, you were raised as a boy, and an egoistic one at that. If you had been raised to be a woman, you would know that a male's feelings are more important--therefore you would cross the street so as not to offend the man who might have to think about your feelings. Or maybe you wouldn't cross the street--after all, if you, as a woman, cross the street, then you're making a statement that you don't trust the man approaching you, and this might hurt his feelings. Dear me, it's better to cross the street than expect a little common courtesy! After all, it's not the male's fault that women are afraid of rape and assault, it's not his fault that women may be smaller or elderly and therefore more fragile than he (and therefore even more wary because if a thug does approach her she's not going to be able to escape). Because, if rape was a forbidden topic, which we could ensure by making the victim of the assault bear some life-long onus, then we wouldn't talk about it, women wouldn't get so frightened since the problem doesn't exist since we don't talk about it, and therefore problem would vanish, right?! And no males' feelings need to be hurt, and no males need to learn courtesy! Easy! (Sorry about those of you who've been taught courtesy--consider it an cultivated atrophied social skill, like bowing and hand-kissing.) The important thing to remember is that women should bear the burden because a male might decide to dominate and rape a woman. After all, what're they doing out on the street at night?! Why aren't they home being domin er I mean protected by their own males?! And the title word choice of "streetwalking"-- to make that one word is rather telling: a "streetwalker" (one word) is a prostitute, therefore one who "streetwalks" must be a prostitute. Loose! Sluts like that get what they deserve! Women are not supposed to be that way, but if they are they deserve no courtesy anyway! What do you mean who says so?! Therefore, women streetwalking are looking for customers and are not likely to cross the street to avoid them. Dangerous males can't be expected to go around carrying signs saying "Danger: Rapist" or "I've had a bad day with the castrating bitch (she just won't submit!) I live with, so watch out 12-year-olds". Clearly anyone who should carry such a sign needs psychiatric care for their sexual problems. Women are tender and understanding and being the emotional creatures they are, they can relate to males' emotions, and should be able to tell dangerous ones from safe ones without needing any such signs, and cross any steets when necessary. Except that's likely to make a dangerous psychopath angry. But we all know women thrive on abuse and domination. The woman walking towards you really wants it. Yeah! She won't cross the street, except to heighten the fear, the excitement, to lengthen the chase. In conclusion: women don't cross streets because o it might hurt some males' feelings (which are more important than hers) o they're streetwalkers o they're not true women--they lack the sensitivity to determine dangerous emotions o it might anger an unstable personality o all women are sluts anyway I haven't gone into the women who don't cross the streets because they feel confident of their own abilities to handle a dangerous situation, because they can't exist, except maybe butches and dykes and also obvious man-haters, but these being outcasts from society, they can be safely ignored, and therefore they don't exist either. Those who know me have no need of having this handy LK201CK shoved down their throat for misinterpreting the preceding. Courtesy on the net?! What's that?! L S Chabot UUCP: ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot ARPA: ...chabot%amber.DEC@decwrl.ARPA shadow: [ISSN 0018-9162 v17 #10 p7, bottom vt100, col3, next to next to last]