Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mit-athena!martillo From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: ... ( Israel ) and Jewish pride Message-ID: <82@mit-athena.ARPA> Date: Tue, 25-Dec-84 11:54:00 EST Article-I.D.: mit-athe.82 Posted: Tue Dec 25 11:54:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Dec-84 05:38:54 EST References: <250@mhuxi.UUCP> <42700012@csd2.UUCP> <272@moscom.UUCP>, <4975@rochester.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Project Athena, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 59 The problem with lack of pride, sycophantic admiration of European culture and ridiculous self-criticalness is purely Ashkenazi. Sefardim had loads of pride until the Israeli leftist governments worked to make them ashamed so that they could better be made to fit in the leftist secularist antiJewish culture which the Eastern European Zionists wanted to make in Israel. From: Caracteres Generales del Judeo-Espan~ol de Oriente by M.L.Wagner. A footnote pg 6 & 7 by Maurice Fishberg, The Jews, A Study of Race and Environment, London, New York and Melbourne, 1911, pag 108. There are significant differences between the two types of Jews when considered anthropologically, although there is hardly any justification for speaking of two distinct races as has been done by some writers. Neither of the two types can claim special racial purity. The Sephardi type is the one which conforms most to the ideal Jewishj type, and anthropologically corresponds to the "Mediterranean" race of Ripley, of the Race Ibero-Insulaire" of Deniker. The have generally black or brown hair, occasionally read and rarely blonde, large black or brown eyes, seldom, grey, and rarely blue. In addition to their dark complexion, they are short of stature and either dolichocephalic or mesocephalic. The face is oval, the forehead receding, the eyes almond-shaped with the outer extremity very pointed, while the dark eyebrows are very bushy at the inner end where they tend to unite over the root of the nose. The traditional Semitic beauty, which in women often assumes an exquisite nobility, is generally found among these Jews, and when encountered among Jews in Eastern of Central Europe, is always of this type. Indeed, it is hard to imagine a beautiful Jewess, who looks like a Jewess, presenting any other physical type. It appears that in addition to the delicacy and the striking symmetry of the features which are often met with, it is also the brilliant, radiant eyes which charm. The Spanish and Andalusian women are said by some to owe their charms to these beautiful eyes, which are alleged to have their origin in the small quantities of Semitic blood which flows in their veins. Their long, narrow heads often have prognathous faces, the upper and lower jaws protruding forward. The nose is generally narrow, prominent, often convex, but only rarly of the kind popularly considered "Jewish." Many of them have a rather large mouth with thick lips, expecially the underlip. "They are medium-sized, slender, narrow-shouldered, but graceful people, with a somewhat melancholy and thoughtful expression. ***> Only very rarely is to be seen a Spanish Jew displaying a servile or cringing attitude in the presence of superiors, as is often to be seen among German and Polish Jews [obviously because Sefardim never consider non-Jews superiors -- ed.] The Sephardim are very proud, and their sense of dignity manifests itself even in their dress and deportment, to which they pay scrupulous attention. These traits which they acquired while living for centuries among the Castilians [I would have said -- which the Castilians picked up from the Sephardim] have been transmitted to their descendants of to-day." <*** Needless to say there were many quisling Ashkenazim who were willing to work for the Yevsektsias in the Soviet Union (Menahem Begin gives some illuminating descriptions of these disgusting craven people in his writings). I have yet to find reference to any Sefardi quisling in the Yevsektsias.