Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihu1m.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!ihu1m!gadfly From: gadfly@ihu1m.UUCP (Gadfly) Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: Re: What do YOU wear? - (nf) Message-ID: <167@ihu1m.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Dec-84 10:58:46 EST Article-I.D.: ihu1m.167 Posted: Thu Dec 20 10:58:46 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 21-Dec-84 02:09:07 EST References: <1710@zehntel.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 49 -- I ride year round in the Chicago area, as I did for 6 years before in Madison, Wis. It's easier down here not because it's warmer, but because they salt the roads so heavily. Really eats out the pipes, though. I had a suit tailor-made out of the heaviest Gore-Tex available. It's 2-piece, and the top has sweatshirt-cut sleeves and has no fasteners--it's pull-over, with a fairly tight neck. There are thus only the 2 sleeve seams (well sealed) presented to the wind. Inside both upper and lower pieces are removable inner liners-- forming a sort-of sweater and pants of Thinsulate (tm) sewn into rip-stop nylon. The pants were cut about 3 inches too long so they don't ride up when in riding position. This 4-piece modularity allows this suit to function as a regular rain suit as well as cold weather gear. The suit is so warm that I don't need the pants liners unless it's colder than 10-below (F). In fact, it keeps the wind out so well that I don't need the top liner over about 35 F. It is hard to get in and out of, however, with the tight-fitting neck. For my hands, I picked up these Conroy ski gloves--leather outside with Gore-Tex underneath and Thinsulate lining. Very warm, though not as water-proof as they claim. Rain gets through the rather thin weight Gore-Tex they use if there's any hard wind pressure. When they wear out (which will take some years--they're well made), I'll get some tailor-made mittens. You need to keep the fingers huddled together for warmth below about 10 F. Since almost all body cooling while riding comes from air intrusion and not poor insulation, I recommend a pull-over style, heavy windbreaker over any jacket with a zipper or an insulation-filled, rip-stop nylon garment. It's cheaper too. With no air intrusion, there is no wind chill. (Real men never count the wind chill.) What I'd like to know from all-weather riders out there (hello?) is (1) are there any full-face helmets that don't ice up? and (2) has anyone come up with a snappy response to that same question, day in and day out, every goddamn morning in the elevator, "Isn't it cold out there?" AAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHH! -- *** *** JE MAINTIENDRAI ***** ***** ****** ****** 20 Dec 84 [30 Frimaire An CXCIII] ken perlow ***** ***** (312)979-7188 ** ** ** ** ..ihnp4!iwsl8!ken *** ***