Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.jewish Subject: Noachic laws Message-ID: <341@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Tue, 18-Dec-84 15:25:58 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.341 Posted: Tue Dec 18 15:25:58 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Dec-84 02:23:46 EST Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.religion:5158 net.religion.jewish:1111 A number of people have pointed out that the list of 7 "universal" laws from Brunson (or perhaps Yiri, hard to tell without annotation) were what Jews refer to as the 7 Noachic laws, laws that apply not just to Jews but to all people. (Jews having an additional 606.) To which I would ask: do you adhere to the 102 Frangelistic laws of the Bufadelics, laws that apply to other people but not to them? Or to the 9 Holy Commandments of the Ubizmatists, which apply to you whether or not you are an Ubizmatist? The point being: what right does any religion have to impose arbitrary laws on people not under its domain? Do YOU adhere to the laws that other religions say that you must, even though you are not a member of their sect? Which brings up the more important point: to those who would claim I am attacking Christianity---I am attacking the right of ANY religion to impose its moral code on those who don't hold to *its* beliefs. Christianity has more of a "track record" to point to in this area. But given an enclosed environment in which any given religion sees itself as "right", such imposition (unwarranted as it may be), in areas of religion and of life itself, will appear. Look at how some Jews in Israel feel it is a form of "divine destiny" to usurp the property/land of non-Jews to expand *their* realm because *they* are Jews. (A modern day example of America's "manifest destiny", which played the same "game" with the native American Indians.) Thus, Christians aren't being "attacked" just as "persecution of their beliefs" (as some would love to make it out to be), but rather because they feel that their being the majority/status quo gives them some level of impositional "rights". Remember that. -- "Send the recording back into the medium." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr