Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!qantel!intelca!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amdcad!decwrl!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!acf4!greenber From: greenber@acf4.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Jenny of the Prairie Message-ID: <10400026@acf4.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Dec-84 09:47:00 EST Article-I.D.: acf4.10400026 Posted: Wed Dec 12 09:47:00 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Dec-84 07:29:53 EST References: <1857@sun.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 51 Nf-ID: #R:sun:-185700:acf4:10400026:000:2487 Nf-From: acf4!greenber Dec 12 09:47:00 1984 marie@harvard==> > Nobody ever mentioned "horrid men". Sunny made a generalization about > the attitudes of men and women which I have often found to be true. Of > course, it's not an absolute boundary; there are lots of sensitive, > gentle men, and lots of vicious, bloodthirsty women (sorry, exaggerating > a little there -- this guy is REALLY bugging me!). Well, lets see.....have we heard mostly generalizations from the original poster about how {bad, horrid, awful, sexist, etc.} men are?? I think so. I just get really "bugged" when I see some person working really hard to put an entire category of people in their "place". The original poster seems to continue to see men in one light...I've never heard a good word about men from her. And that, in my humble opinion, hurts the idea of equality more than anything else. Militant Feminist is a label. It appears, sadly, that one Militant Feminist can destroy all the hard work that has gone into the sexual equality effort. I feel that only telling one side of a story is harmful. > (Trying to keep my temper, but it's not easy.) Yes, there may be > circumstances in which you HAVE to kill to survive. In the game, there > are supposed to be enough wild fruits, vegetables, grains, and so forth > that Jenny can stay alive. Makes a nice GAME. Not close to the real world. Take a walk through your local forest. See many "wild fruits, vegetables, grains, and so forth"? If it's only a game fine....but don't try to make general statements about society based on a game. % mail sunny@sun <(And this point can > be extended to "you don't always have to hurt someone, even when it > might *seem* necessary" and "you don't have to be obnoxious and > sarcastic, even when it might seem like fun at the time.") GOOD_POINT And to think that I just wished marie a happy birthday! Marie, I am not attacking you. And certainly never wanted to hurt anyone. What I am attempting to do is to say to sunny that maybe she has gone a little far. I find that her postings are usually anti-male. I don't know why this is, and am saddened when seeing the type of anger she expresses in public. I don't know what has happened in her life that she only sees the bad side of men. I wish I could help. But that has been forbidden me due to my gender. That is the pity of it all. I'm not really all that bad a guy...(At least in my opinion :-) ) Ross M. Greenberg @ NYU ----> allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber <----