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From: barry@ames.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Alcoholism, Christianity, and Effective Treatment
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Date: Wed, 26-Dec-84 16:43:38 EST
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Posted: Wed Dec 26 16:43:38 1984
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	From trwrba!suhre (Maurice E. Suhre):
> I have noticed postings to this groups suggesting that the
> homosexuals should (paraphrasing) give up their lifestyle,
> repent their sins, and beg for forgiveness.  I am not too
> disturbed by such rantings since I am confident that the
> gay community will not fall for such baloney.  Unfortunately,
> I have also noticed an attempt to tar the alcoholics with the
> same brush.  This is what bothers me.
>....
> Similarly, if you want to learn how to not drink and
> to live comfortably in the world, you should look up the
> people who have demonstrated their ability to not drink
> and to live comfortably.  Those people can be contacted
> through the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous (number
> is in the white pages).
>.... 
> One of the standards demanded by the FDA is efficacy of
> treatment, particularly for drugs trying to be approved
> for the marketplace.  Something like 2,000,000 (that's
> two million) have recovered through AA.  How many have
> recovered through bible thumping?  

	Not a flame, just a clarification.
	Unless things have changed recently, AA has a strong religious
(though non-denominational) element in its treatment for alcoholism.
While I don't doubt that alcoholic athiests would be welcome, some of
the counciling they'd get would likely seem to them better suited for
someone more religious.
	Anyone have any more detailed/current information on AA?

"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me,       Kenn Barry
Than to have a frontal lobotomy."               NASA-Ames Research Center
                                                Moffett Field, CA
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