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From: hav@dual.UUCP (Helen Anne Vigneau)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Tolerance (Jeff, Chuqui, Plaid, Paisley)
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Date: Thu, 13-Dec-84 17:01:04 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec 13 17:01:04 1984
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<*munch*>

Ummm, maybe it's time for the creation of a new newsgroup:  net.singles.c
(take your pick, christian, celibate, crazy :-))  Seriously, I can't see
how anyone in a loving relationship would want to exclude sex from the
relationship, but for those who do, why not give them a place where they can
discuss celibacy, what to do the first time (if there is ever a first time
:-)), and whatever else.  Like net.motss, this would not be an *exclusive*
group, but flaming on the basis of one's convictions would be prohibited.

As an aside, I once had a relationship where the SO in question inflicted
(yes, I mean that word) his celibacy on me *after* we had been doing
whatever-you-call-it for several months.  We remained friends for a while,
but I just couldn't handle it.  The friendship remained for a few months, and
we'd get together less and less frequently, occasionally sleeping together,
until it finally fell away.  (Not *it*, the relationship!)  I saw other men
during the final few months, but I can't say that my seeing them was a direct
cause of the demise of the original liaison.  The few times that this person
and I did sleep together after his celibacy announcement, things were really
unhappy.  In my estimation, I really tried to be patient and understanding
(well, most of the time), but he suffered from serious performance problems
(jeez, I hate that term).  I suppose it was a conflict between the carnal
instinct and his religiously founded conviction.  To sum up, it just wasn't
worth the aggravation.

Helen Anne Vigneau
Dual Systems Corporation

P.S.  Pooh, I see you've moved.  Where should I send mail now?