Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site lsuc.UUCP Path: utzoo!lsuc!msb From: msb@lsuc.UUCP (Mark Brader) Newsgroups: net.legal,net.politics Subject: Re: NYC subway hero Message-ID: <248@lsuc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 31-Dec-84 14:25:33 EST Article-I.D.: lsuc.248 Posted: Mon Dec 31 14:25:33 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 31-Dec-84 15:09:24 EST References: <121@cadre.UUCP> <6835@watdaisy.UUCP> Reply-To: msb@lsuc.UUCP (Mark Brader|LSUC|Toronto) Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 27 Summary: I have already seen or heard several conflicting versions of this incident. Here in Canada we have a doctrine called something like "appropriate force", and I expect that most of the (51* different(!)) criminal codes in the US work the same way. This doctrine means that your self-defense can't use deadly force unless you have good reason to fear that the adversary will at least try to do griveous bodily harm to you. Otherwise, you are committing (or attempting, as the case may be) some class of murder or manslaughter. Also, at least in Canada, you can't provoke somebody into attacking you with a weapon and then claim self-defense; or at least, you could lose if you do. The point is, it MATTERS exactly what happened. And unless this hero, or murderer, is located and either tried or announced to be cleared, the best way we'll have of finding out what happened is from the press. So could somebody with access to the New York Times or other such relatively authoritative source post, verbatim, their description of what is known about what really happened? I admit to not hearing about the whole thing at the time. [I am not a lawyer, despite the Organization: line] *Can someone confirm my assumption that DC, not being part of any state, has its own criminal code? { allegra | decvax | duke | ihnp4 | linus | watmath | ... } !utzoo!lsuc!msb Mark Brader also uw-beaver!utcsrgv!lsuc!msb