Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!umcp-cs!flink From: flink@umcp-cs.UUCP (Paul Torek) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion Subject: Re:Re: Next! Message-ID: <2151@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 28-Dec-84 22:33:10 EST Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.2151 Posted: Fri Dec 28 22:33:10 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Dec-84 00:13:32 EST Distribution: net Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 19 Xref: dcdwest net.philosophy:829 net.religion:3584 From: lip@masscomp.UUCP (John Lipinski) >>[me]Obviously false, given that people often call things done by their >>culture morally wrong, even when the practice is entirely consistent >>with the other aspects of the culture. There is nothing odd about >>such criticism of one's own culture, yet by gam's definition it >>would be very odd indeed (self-contradictory even). > > No, you don't get off that easy. You'll have to give us some examples of > "morally wrong" things that that are "entirely consistent with the other > aspects of the culture" before you can say "obviously false." I said that often *people call* things morally wrong that are entirely consistent with the other aspects of their culture. Examples? Slavery, U.S., 1850 -- the abolitionist movement. Libertarianism, Marxism, or just about any ideological movement in its infancy. All these groups were critics of their cultures. QED. --The accomplished iconoclast, Paul V Torek, umcp-cs!flink