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From: hull@hao.UUCP (Howard Hull)
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Subject: Re: Re. Is the Universe predictable?
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Date: Sat, 29-Dec-84 11:09:25 EST
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> On the surface, causality and randomness may seem to be mutually exclusive;
> but on closer inspection, they must be seen as complementary facets of a
> larger reality."  (pages 310-313)
> 
> Sorry for the length of the quote, but what do you think???
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ken Arndt

Thank you very much for the time you spent to look up the references and
summarize the information on causality, uncertainty, determinancy, and
determinability for myself and others on the net.  I believe I understood
what you wrote.  My own conceptualization of the uncertainty principle did
not suffer any dislocation with respect to what you submitted.  From what
you said, I am left to remain of the position that ours is an observational
context.  It appears to me that limits placed on our ability to observe
prevent us from finding out whether the situation is determined or not
determined.  Our observational capacity, which may be broken down into the
classes of "absolute" and "statistical" vary, depending on the class of
objects we are observing.  Since we do not have absolute observational
capacity for every object in our observable universe, we cannot know if we
are living in a determined universe or not.  Period.  The End.

I am preparing an article for submission to the net that shall be an outline
of observational capacity, expressed as a model.  That will allow the readers
of this newsgroup to boil me in the traditional gallon of oil, and it will be
posted later today.  It should be fun.  Thanks again.
								Howard Hull
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