Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site bbncca.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!bbncca!rrizzo From: rrizzo@bbncca.ARPA (Ron Rizzo) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Homophobic Tales of Intrigue Message-ID: <1225@bbncca.ARPA> Date: Fri, 21-Dec-84 12:52:49 EST Article-I.D.: bbncca.1225 Posted: Fri Dec 21 12:52:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 22-Dec-84 02:54:38 EST References: <31@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Bolt, Beranek and Newman, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 32 A good friend of mine, a New Yorker, met one of his lovers years ago in Boston (no, it wasn't me!): he was strolling through Bos- ton's Combat Zone (the local redlight district: small, grimey, & violent) one night and approached a rather hostile-looking black man sitting on the hood of a car. My friend said "Hello." And thereby began a long relationship. Up til then the guy used to hang out in the Zone to beat up gays. Why didn't he beat up my friend. "No one ever said hello to me before," he explained. Macho football players at local colleges (Tufts, Harvard, BU, Northeastern, you name it) used to consistently pick up a really outrageous and flaming quean I knew in the 70s: the athletes enjoyed being penetrated anally, to the point of obsession: it got tedious so my friend started refusing offers after a while. I don't think all of the jocks were necessarily gay or even bi- sexual, but simply wanted relief from the straitjacket of hetero- sexual myth & rite. One more item about sexual appearance vs. reality: I remember reading about the results of a survey done in the Bay Area in the late 70s. Brothels in the East Bay (Oakland, Berkeley etc.), of which there are more than a few apparently, were canvassed about the sharp rise in S & M demanded by heterosexual male customers of the ladies. The ladies wearily reported that the clients only wanted to be M's and be humiliated & abused: tied up, beaten, insulted, dominated, etc. The clients were typically aggressive high-power upper management types, happily married & with promising careers, who had large numbers of people under for them. Happy Holidays, Ron