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From: msb@lsuc.UUCP (Mark Brader)
Newsgroups: net.legal,net.politics
Subject: Re: NYC subway hero
Message-ID: <248@lsuc.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 31-Dec-84 14:25:33 EST
Article-I.D.: lsuc.248
Posted: Mon Dec 31 14:25:33 1984
Date-Received: Mon, 31-Dec-84 15:09:24 EST
References: <121@cadre.UUCP> <6835@watdaisy.UUCP>
Reply-To: msb@lsuc.UUCP (Mark Brader|LSUC|Toronto)
Organization: Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto
Lines: 27
Summary: 

I have already seen or heard several conflicting versions of this
incident.  Here in Canada we have a doctrine called something like
"appropriate force", and I expect that most of the (51* different(!))
criminal codes in the US work the same way.  This doctrine means that
your self-defense can't use deadly force unless you have good reason
to fear that the adversary will at least try to do griveous bodily
harm to you.  Otherwise, you are committing (or attempting, as the case
may be) some class of murder or manslaughter.  Also, at least in
Canada, you can't provoke somebody into attacking you with a weapon
and then claim self-defense; or at least, you could lose if you do.

The point is, it MATTERS exactly what happened.  And unless this hero,
or murderer, is located and either tried or announced to be cleared,
the best way we'll have of finding out what happened is from the press.

So could somebody with access to the New York Times or other such
relatively authoritative source post, verbatim, their description of
what is known about what really happened?  I admit to not hearing about
the whole thing at the time.

[I am not a lawyer, despite the Organization: line]

*Can someone confirm my assumption that DC, not being part of any state, has
 its own criminal code?

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