Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ncsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!mcnc!ncsu!mauney From: mauney@ncsu.UUCP (Jon Mauney) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Hackers and others take note Message-ID: <2740@ncsu.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Dec-84 10:16:47 EST Article-I.D.: ncsu.2740 Posted: Wed Dec 12 10:16:47 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 14-Dec-84 05:49:19 EST References: <410@gitpyr.UUCP>, <336@stcvax.UUCP> Organization: N.C. State University, Raleigh Lines: 19 Judging from the account in our local paper, Sandza went "undercover" and got the material for his story by actually participating in a bulletin-board system. This system was/is used to swap system-cracking tips, passwords, credit card numbers, recipes for nitroglycerin, and other wholesome hobbies. He was dealing not with a herd of hackers but a den of thieves. It is hardly surprising that their reaction took the form it did. Whether hacking is good or bad, and whether teen-age crackers are innocent joyriders or not, these particular crackers are clearly outside the main stream, and should not be considered typical computer enthusiasts. -- Jon Mauney, mcnc!ncsu!mauney Computer Hacking Department North Carolina State University "Oh, I'm a systems hack and I'm OK, I work all night and I sleep all day;"