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From: myunive@nsc.UUCP (Jay Zelitzky)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Don't restrict MY access to handguns just because
Message-ID: <2130@nsc.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 30-Dec-84 06:04:35 EST
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Posted: Sun Dec 30 06:04:35 1984
Date-Received: Sun, 30-Dec-84 13:06:05 EST
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Reply-To: myunive@nsc.UUCP (Jay Zelitzky)
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In article <6788@brl-tgr.ARPA> jcp@brl-tgr.ARPA (Joe Pistritto ) writes:
 >Please explain to me why 'in a Democracy' we should be against:
 >
 >2) Protecting personal property with deadly force (meaning a person's
 >   home, as opposed to, say, a car)
 >
 >						-JCP-

	I am tired of people confusing the meaning of Democracy.
First we do not have a Democracy, we have a Republic.  A Democracy
would mean that everyone voted on all issues, a Republic means
we elect representatives who decide for us.
	Second in spite of what the NRA or others might believe a Republic
in no way guarantees the right of people to private property or to
protect their private property.  A Republic gives peope the right to elect their
government.  That is all.
	The only protection that the constitution
puts on private property is that it may not be taken without due process
of law.  There is nothing in the idea of a republic or even the constitution
of the United States that states that private property and the right to
protect it is a basic right.


	One thing that is interesting about guns and crime is that the
crime rate does appear to be related to the number of people that have
guns to defend themselves against criminals,  the more extensive ownership
of guns is the higher the crime rate.  This can be particularly seen in
the American south where ownership of guns is rampant and the crime rate is
the highest in the country. The American South also has far and away the highest
homicide rates in the U. S..
	It is interested that no one can give any examples of countries
without gun control who have a low crime rate.  One of the few countries
which had no enforceable gun controll laws was Lebanon.  Of course they
had no gun control laws because they had no government but still we
saw what happened to them.
	I renew the challenge for anyone to name a country without any
gun controll laws that has a low crime rate.  I would be interested in
examples of other countries that don't have gun controll laws.  I don't
know of any off hand.
				Jay
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