Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site enmasse.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!teddy!panda!enmasse!mroddy From: mroddy@enmasse.UUCP (Mark Roddy) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Libertarianism: Anarchism, Schools, Defense, Society Message-ID: <250@enmasse.UUCP> Date: Sat, 22-Dec-84 19:15:07 EST Article-I.D.: enmasse.250 Posted: Sat Dec 22 19:15:07 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Dec-84 08:42:23 EST References: <399@ptsfa.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Enmasse Computer Corp., Acton, Mass. Lines: 51 > When you invade a country successfully, you usually destroy its > economy. While it's true that those who plan invasions may not understand > this too clearly, I hardly think that this makes a rich economy an > incentive for a takeover. This is especially true if there are no barriers > keeping you (as a government) or your citizens from trading in that > economy. > As long as a libertarian society existed in a hostile/authortarian/ militaristic world it would require a national defense system. > > It would be difficult to imagine such a system working much worse than > the present one. I went to the best public schools in the local district > (Oakland, California). Many of my fellow graduates were, in my opinion, > functionally illiterate. Once having learned to read, I learned essentially > nothing in classes, since they were paced for the least motivated students. > A few "special" classes were still incredibly boring. I don't ascribe much > validity to IQ tests, but it's interesting to note that my measured IQ > *dropped* by thirty points between first grade and high-school graduation. > Amen. What on earth makes people think that "education" is what the public "school" system is for? It is just a place to park kids. > An anarchist is a person who believes that government should be > abolished (more on the definition of government later). > > Libertarianism and anarchism are related, but independent. It is > possible to be a libertarian with or without being an anarchist. This > month's newsletter from my local Libertarian party organization indicates > that there are both anarchist and "minarchist" factions within the party. > > It is possible also to be an anarchist without being a libertarian; > many anarchists reject the concept of private property. > I couldn't agree less. The difference between anarchism and libertarianism has much more to do with the libertarians peculiar reluctance to admit that corporate organizations are just as much a part of out non-libertarian government as are the traditional state institutions. It is a traditional distortion of anarchist theory to state that anarchists want to abolish government, immediately, like NOW. We just want to wither it away, peacefully, let it die of neglect. But government and concentrated capitalism are two faces of the same beast. *** REPLACE THIS SYSTEM WITH YOUR SELF ***