Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site rti-sel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!mcnc!rti-sel!rcb From: rcb@rti-sel.UUCP (Randy Buckland) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: Where have all the hackers gone? Message-ID: <43@rti-sel.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Dec-84 21:43:30 EST Article-I.D.: rti-sel.43 Posted: Mon Dec 17 21:43:30 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 20-Dec-84 01:17:57 EST References: <3137@utah-cs.UUCP> <417@ihu1h.UUCP> <35@rti-sel.UUCP> <65@drivax.UUCP> Organization: Research Triangle Institute, NC Lines: 25 > > Which doesn't necessarily make them desireable or the best engineers. What > good is a good hacker that interferes with getting the *product* out the door > by refusing to cooperate? > Who said anything about being an engineer? who said anything about getting a product out the door? who said anything about refusing to cooperate? Where the H*LL do you get off trying to twist my one line statement around to suit your ideas (term used loosely). Most of the hackers I know will readily cooperate with anyone who asks them. They will usually take the time to answer any questions and thereby spread the knowledge that they have obtained in pursuit of hacking. They also have a desire to get the product out the door. But not just any product. They will apply their skills to make the product as good as it can be. It seems, however, that all you are interested in is getting a marginal product that does not take advantage of the capabilities of the machine and does not try to be as useful and powerful as possible. In that case, why don't you go work for IBM on that totally awful OS called CMS. Sounds like your kind of project. A system that will occasionally do what is desired after a long session of fighting the OS. Randy Buckland Research Triangle Institute ...!mcnc!rti-sel!rcb