Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mit-athena!martillo From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: flame! etc. (In re: Yemenite Jews) Message-ID: <92@mit-athena.ARPA> Date: Fri, 28-Dec-84 10:37:48 EST Article-I.D.: mit-athe.92 Posted: Fri Dec 28 10:37:48 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Dec-84 23:33:38 EST References: <1050@aecom.UUCP> <81@mit-athena.ARPA>, <1057@aecom.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Project Athena, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 34 As far as I know, I have not received any mail from Eliyahu Teitz in several months. This could easily by a problem with sendmail or other mail program at mit-athena or decvax. We have seen many such problems. You missed the point of my article. I find condemning the left-scum founders of the state of Israel for their treatment of oriental and Sefardic Jews somewhat hypocritical if you do not also condemn perhaps even more strongly the contemporary Ashkenazi religious leaders for their treatment of Oriental and Sefardic Jews. These Ashkenazi religious leaders were also acting against their own best interests since the oriental communities which came to Israel were genuinely Jewish (not accidentally like the vast majoritiy of Ashkenazim). If the Ashkenazi religious leaders had been willing to spend a little of the money received as war-crime compensation on schools for Sefardim (the first Sefardi religious schools were set up by the histadrut -- leftist, secularist labor union), the left-scum would have been thrown out of the Israeli government a long time ago and genuine levantine Jewish observance would have been established shortly thereafter. I have seen other examples of self-destructiveness among Ashkenazim and I suspect there may be something fundamentally wrong with the Ashkenazi shittah. Eventually a forced levantinization of the Israeli population will probably be necessary. This happens not to be the Sefardi style. As I have pointed out before, most Sefardim did not know there was a distinction between Sefardim and Ashkenazim until they came to Israel. Now a forced levantinization will probably be necessary because the left-scum act even crazier since political assertiveness among Sefardim has broken the left strangelhold on the nation. Since a forced levantinization would essentially mean establishing a more religious state along Sefardi lines, I expect religious Ashkenazim are obligated according to halakah to support such a movement even if it means the eventual elimination of the Ashkenazi shittah from Israel.