Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site water.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!water!jbtubman From: jbtubman@water.UUCP (Jim Tubman) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: HEAVY METAL (DAZE) Message-ID: <181@water.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Dec-84 21:37:22 EST Article-I.D.: water.181 Posted: Fri Dec 14 21:37:22 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Dec-84 02:39:11 EST References: <558@aluxe.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 28 I have heard that "heavy metal" is a translation of some French idiom; however, I don't know what the idiom means in the French and I can't recall where I heard this. It may give someone else a lead, though. By the way, as a Who fanatic, I must comment on Joseph M. Dakes observation: > Now that you know the what, when and where's of "Heavy Metal" how about a > discussion of the who's. Not "the Who" as in Townsend and Co. but, who is > "Heavy Metal." I would not consider the Who to be a heavy metal band but, if > you listen to wimpy new wave (i.e. Cindy Lauper, Human League, etc.) you > probably would. I suppose that if anyone who prefers wimp-rock plops "Live At Leeds" on to their turntable, they might mistake the Who for a heavy metal band. But perhaps the level of lyrical and thematic sophistication is another hallmark of a true heavy metal band -- loud guitars are not enough; the ideas must be accessable to a young [should I say "unsophisticated"?] audience. (And some of the audience is *really* young; the eight-year-olds I see in record stores are exclusively interested in the Ozzy Osborne/Twisted Sister type of stuff.) Let's put the ball in the headbangers' court. How do you distinguish the kind of music you like from the kind put out by the Who, Led Zeppelin, Rush, Van Halen, or Queen (in some of their incarnations, anyway)? Or would you include any of these bands in the heavy metal area? Jim Tubman University of Waterloo