Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!philabs!aecom!teitz From: teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: Christmas {report} card ( Israel ) Message-ID: <1052@aecom.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Dec-84 12:40:31 EST Article-I.D.: aecom.1052 Posted: Tue Dec 25 12:40:31 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 28-Dec-84 08:07:33 EST References: <2028@nsc.UUCP> <2031@nsc.UUCP> <1014@aecom.UUCP> <18017@lanl.ARPA> <1031@aecom.UUCP> <250@mhuxi.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 23 > [Come on, Mr. Golem, I know your there..] > > > The Jewish nation had survived for 2000 years without a country of their > > own and I dare say they could have survived another 2000. Of course having > > the state is very nice, but looking at it now, it has hardly been a religious > > blessing. I really don't know if such an occurence should be celebrated. > > Eliyahu Teitz. > > NONSENSE! Were not the few delivered from the hands of the many > when the "state" was established? Don't you think that this was/is a blessing? > I think it is and should be celebrated. I see a similarities between the events > that led to the festival of Hanukah and the establishment of Israel. Anyone > else agree? > Happy Hanukah, > David S. Green {ihnp4}!mhuxi!dsg 201-564-4468 The same except that Channuka celebrated our spiritual freedom and was a religious victory mainly and a physical one secondly. The Greeks were not interested in our deaths only in our renouncing Judaism. The setting up of a state in Israel had nothing to do with religion, and that's all I've been saying all along. Eliyahu Teitz.