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From: rcb@rti-sel.UUCP (Randy Buckland)
Newsgroups: net.cse
Subject: Re: Where have all the hackers gone?
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Date: Mon, 17-Dec-84 21:43:30 EST
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Posted: Mon Dec 17 21:43:30 1984
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> 
> Which doesn't necessarily make them desireable or the best engineers.  What
> good is a good hacker that interferes with getting the *product* out the door
> by refusing to cooperate?
> 

	Who said anything about being an engineer? who said anything about
getting a product out the door? who said anything about refusing to cooperate?
Where the H*LL do you get off trying to twist my one line statement around
to suit your ideas (term used loosely). Most of the hackers I know will
readily cooperate with anyone who asks them. They will usually take the time
to answer any questions and thereby spread the knowledge that they have
obtained in pursuit of hacking. They also have a desire to get the product out
the door. But not just any product. They will apply their skills to make the
product as good as it can be. It seems, however, that all you are interested
in is getting a marginal product that does not take advantage of the 
capabilities of the machine and does not try to be as useful and powerful
as possible. In that case, why don't you go work for IBM on that
totally awful OS called CMS. Sounds like your kind of project. A system
that will occasionally do what is desired after a long session of fighting
the OS.

					Randy Buckland
					Research Triangle Institute
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