Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Criticism of Dutch Government Message-ID: <16@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Dec-84 14:45:37 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.16 Posted: Wed Dec 12 14:45:37 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Dec-84 02:44:07 EST References: <1203@dciem.UUCP> <28100020@uicsl.UUCP> <6216@mcvax.UUCP> <172@talcott.UUCP> <151@ihu1m.UUCP> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 20 > Enough of this Dutch-trashing. Remember that during the Nazi > occupation many Dutch risked their lives to help Jews escape or > hide. During the '73 oil embargo, the Dutch, with no oil resources > of their own, put up with a total cut-off of crude rather than > renounce their close ties with Israel. (In the US, with substantial > oil reserves, there was all of a sudden a lot of "We want oil--not > Jews" graffiti.) Are these signs of moral weakness? How dare you > folks condemn the moral fiber of the Dutch! Nobody is condemning anyone. The origonal criticism of Dutch prostitution and drug use was only made to show how inappropriate the anti-American attitude of one Dutch poster was. If other people think that there are important issues of Dutch society to discuss, I hope that they will create net.dutch and try to discuss them in a rational manner. I have a lot of admiration for the Netherlands myself, and only regret that some people on both sides of the Atlantic can get so caught up in nationalistic self-righteousness that they lose sight of all the good things we could be discussing about both the US and the Netherlands... Wayne