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Subject: Re: Jenny of the Prairie
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Date: Wed, 12-Dec-84 09:47:00 EST
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Posted: Wed Dec 12 09:47:00 1984
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Nf-From: acf4!greenber    Dec 12 09:47:00 1984


marie@harvard==>

> Nobody ever mentioned "horrid men".  Sunny made a generalization about
> the attitudes of men and women which I have often found to be true.  Of
> course, it's not an absolute boundary; there are lots of sensitive,
> gentle men, and lots of vicious, bloodthirsty women (sorry, exaggerating
> a little there -- this guy is REALLY bugging me!).

Well, lets see.....have we heard mostly generalizations from the original
poster about how {bad, horrid, awful, sexist, etc.} men are?? I think so.
I just get really "bugged" when I see some person working really hard
to put an entire category of people in their "place". The original
poster seems to continue to see men in one light...I've never heard a
good word about men from her. And that, in my humble opinion, hurts the idea
of equality more than anything else.  Militant Feminist is a label.
It appears, sadly, that one Militant Feminist can destroy all the hard work
that has gone into the sexual equality effort.  I feel that only telling
one side of a story is harmful.


> (Trying to keep my temper, but it's not easy.)  Yes, there may be
> circumstances in which you HAVE to kill to survive.  In the game, there
> are supposed to be enough wild fruits, vegetables, grains, and so forth
> that Jenny can stay alive.
Makes a nice GAME.  Not close to the real world. Take a walk through
your local forest. See many "wild fruits, vegetables, grains, and so
forth"?  If it's only a game fine....but don't try to make general
statements about society based on a game.

% mail sunny@sun < (And this point can
> be extended to "you don't always have to hurt someone, even when it
> might *seem* necessary" and "you don't have to be obnoxious and
> sarcastic, even when it might seem like fun at the time.")
GOOD_POINT

And to think that I just wished marie a happy birthday! Marie, I am not
attacking you. And certainly never wanted to hurt anyone.

What I am attempting to do is to say to sunny that maybe
she has gone a little far.  I find that her postings are usually anti-male.
I don't know why this is, and am saddened when seeing the type of anger she
expresses in public.  I don't know what has happened in her life that
she only sees the bad side of men.  I wish I could help.  But that has
been forbidden me due to my gender.  That is the pity of it all.

I'm not really all that bad a guy...(At least in my opinion :-) )


Ross M. Greenberg  @ NYU   ---->  allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber  <----