Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles $Revision: 1.6.2.17 $; site uokvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uokvax!mike From: mike@uokvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sport.football Subject: Re: BYU and Oklahoma: Who's # 1 Message-ID: <5700017@uokvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 21-Dec-84 15:46:00 EST Article-I.D.: uokvax.5700017 Posted: Fri Dec 21 15:46:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Dec-84 03:57:39 EST References: <1506@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Lines: 82 Nf-ID: #R:sdcrdcf:-150600:uokvax:5700017:000:4132 Nf-From: uokvax!mike Dec 21 14:46:00 1984 >> When you defeat OKlahoma State, ...... and one previously-#2 team. >> >Hey, who is Oklahoma State? Well, it's this university that's located in Stillwater, Oklahoma, that has about 25,000 students. Last I heard they had the 6th best defense in the country with at least one All-American that I can think of. Of course they've already left to play South Carolina (I'll tell you who they are later) in the Gator Bowl. They also happen to be on USENET, and I hope they fill your mailbox. > ...but beating OSU is no big deal. I can think of 9 teams who think it is. They only lost to OU and Nebraska. > If this is considered a #1-caliber schedule ... Beleive it or not, OU puts effort into playing tougher schedules. About 8 years or so ago, there was a big stink about always playing Podunk U. or Utah St. in our four non-conference games (one of which is always TexAss). Since then, we have been scheduling tougher teams (Ohio St. and USC, etc.) I believe the schedules are made out at least 5 years in advance, and 5 years ago, Stanford, Pitt, and Baylor were fairly good teams. Also, this year happened to be a down year for the Big Eight (only three major bowl teams), nothing like a few years ago when we had five bowl teams. > (52-63-6) .455 subtract OU's record from this and you get (51-54-5) .486 that's not tooooo bad. What was Florida's? (I honestly don't know, but would venture to guess that it wasn't much above .600) > Then what caliber schedule did Florida, Miami and Notre Dame play? > These three teams played 22 bowl-bound teams out of a possible 34. That's nice. >Michigan defeat then #1 Miami and USC beat then #1 Washington, >but neither of them got the #1 spot. I believe a prerequesite is that you be ranked high enough before you beat them. Jumping up 10 spots is not real common (down is another story). >Oklahoma tied Texas and beat Nebraska by the virtue of two goal >line stands. But aren't they lucky because of the stupid decisions >by Fred Akers and Tom Osborne? If both of them opted for the field goals >(18 yards field goal), I don't know what would happen. I am sure the >diehard sooners would have said they would win anyway. Wasn't boiling a game down to one or two plays discussed in the "interception that wasn't" discussion? Say all you want about Akers, but Osbourne is a damn good coach, I think he's a little more qualified to call plays than you. After all, he is second in winning percentage of active coaches. (Number one is left as an exercise to the reader.) >Hey, none of OU's >opponents has a decent passing offense. Have OU played >teams like Miami, BYU or Boston College? I didn't know that these were the only teams that had a "passing offense", Stanford has always been known for the rushing offense (who is John Elway?). >But think about this, if Robbie Boscoe, >Doug Flutie or Bernie Kosar gets a first-down >on the 1-yard line, you really think any of them would give the ball to >the running back four consecutive times? I doubt anybody would try it again this year. >BYU at least beat the no-names >by blowing them out, It's a good thing that Army and Pitt aren't no-names. >while Washington only won by special >teams and defense. Their offense struggled in every game. I see... If you don't have a good offense, you don't have a good team. To tell you the truth, I kinda like 3 yards and a cloud of dust. >...They had recruiting violations is another matter. did any of these players have an effect on the outcome of their games? (I seriously don't know). I don't hate Florida, their coach (Galen Hall) was our offensive coordinator for 10 years (until last year), but if any of their violations concerned players who contibuted significantly, then they deserved to not be considered. OK, we've heard why OU shouldn't be no. 1, but I can do the same thing with Brigham Young (I just don't have their scores in front of me). I've always felt that it would be difficult to pick a number one team that didn't play on New Year's Day. The fact that Brigham Young is not playing in a major bowl is the only thing I'm complaining about.