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Subject: 2010: art? bigoted? chauvinistic? fun anyways?
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Date: Fri, 14-Dec-84 23:07:46 EST
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Posted: Fri Dec 14 23:07:46 1984
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I made the mistake of reading the book first.
Don't if you want to enjoy the movie in an
unhindered fashion.
  
To me there are three kinds of art:
EPIC - A tale larger than life and individual persons,
       trying to make some sense of it all.
DRAMA - A tale about life and characters.
MELODRAMA - A tale emphasizing plot and action,
        sacrificing characterization.
  
2001 was a classic, an epic tale. Told beautifully,
slowly, wonderful music.  To judge by the volume of
comments flowing in, a tale that touched many.

2010 is an action-packed melodrama, a cowboy western.
Nonetheless it is an enjoyable action film despite
any scientific inaccuracies or inaccurate representations
of the book. The "messages" of this movie however are told in
too heavy-handed of a manner, too awkwardly.
  
As for inaccuracies, they seem to show that the director was:
1-BIGOTED - were they afraid to show Dr. Chandra as an Indian?
2-STRAIGHT-LACED - were they afraid to include any of the homosexuality?
2aSTRAIGHT-LACED (again) - why did they force the old girlfriend to be a wife?
3-CHAUVINISTIC (nationally speaking) - why did the Russians have to
    make a mistake (not in the book) that led to Max's death and
    why were they made so grim and uptight?
4-CHAUVINISTIC (male speaking) why did they need to keep the wife
    waiting on through three years? ACClarke had the sense to realize
    that a three year separation is a hardship.
5-MYOPIC - why did they have to interject their concerns about
    TODAY's problems in South America and east-west relations
    about a tale which was written about humanities search
    in the FUTURE for other beings and outer space?
6-UNFASHION-CONSCIOUS - why did the people 26 years in the
    future continue to wear Merona-like sportwear and
    Wall-stree business suits when in 2001 the people in
    the space-station(the waitresses in particular) wore  
    clothing that was definitely different than what we wear today?
    I seem to recall tights and some kind of tunic.
   
SPECIAL EFFECTS COMMENTS:                 
-I was sad that I could see where strings were holding up
 the tethers in the space scenes.
-I was sad that the surface of Jupter looked computer generated.
-The monolith in space seemed to have dimensions
 of 1:4:50 instead of the 1:4:9 proportions it should have had.  
- I loved the last view of Europa. That was artistic. Plus
 the monolith there seemed to be 1:4:9.
-Seeing Jupiter's final "big scene" was fun.

Seeing Kerr Dullea again was wonderful. I think he is underrated.

ENJOY THE MOVIE FOR WHAT IT IS.
THEN READto comehomxand.(%244ule eknd.ndarnd. to