Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: number one lie Message-ID: <17@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Wed, 12-Dec-84 14:53:33 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.17 Posted: Wed Dec 12 14:53:33 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 15-Dec-84 02:49:58 EST References:<1262@dciem.UUCP> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 20 > > The historical documentation of the failures of ALL forms of > > socialism is irrefutable. > > And the attacks on the philosopical underpinings of capitalism continue > > without taking the slightest notice of this. > > Hey! This is interesting. At last we have the prospect of getting > some facts from a Libertarian. I can't wait for the followup containing > this historical irrefutable evidence. No-one else has seen it yet, which > is why the debate has continued "without taking the slightest notice" of it. Can you point to a single instance of a socialist economy working better than a capitalist economy in the same sort of conditions? Or for that matter, of a real communist utopian state evolving out of a socialist state, as Marx predicted? I don't know what sorts of attacks on capitalism te origonal poster was refering to, but most of them that I have heard involve the "social injustice" of capitalism. They seldom consider the social injustice in socialist countries, which is certainly much greater than in most capitalist countries. Wayne