Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: "all" vs. "most" Message-ID: <2202@randvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Dec-84 21:38:05 EST Article-I.D.: randvax.2202 Posted: Thu Dec 20 21:38:05 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 23-Dec-84 01:42:42 EST References: <25@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 29 > To all who complain about the use of "most men" or "men" when somebody says > something derogatory: go soak your head (in a pig, if that's what you like). > Complain if you like, I don't care a bit, and Alan and others of his ilk, don't > go around bleating that so many of us women don't stand up to defend you. > . . . . > > L S Chabot I'm saddened by your attitude, Lisa, because I think that it is things such as this that have helped set feminism back; all it does is invite a backlash from a group of people who are crucial to the movement: the men who are in the process of painfully renouncing male supremacy. (As a side note, I think it also contributes to the ``shrillness'' that repells some women I know from calling themselves ``feminists''.) I doubt that you measure yourself by the same standards as those who post the ``why do women date jerks'' or ``why do feminist women hate men'' questions, so why claim the right to behave like them? I've not been silent on either of these abuses, and I chose not to be silent on the ``why do men claim the right to rape'' either (knowing that I'd catch some flak from other feminists, and perhaps some unwanted support from male supremists). In all cases it was the dangerous ``us against them'' attitude that caused me to respond. Let's be constructive. Hostility and lack of respect for each other is the enemy. -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall