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From: tracy@hcrvx1.UUCP (Tracy Tims)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Men/Hate, Women/Love.
Message-ID: <1038@hcrvx1.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 13-Dec-84 21:54:28 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec 13 21:54:28 1984
Date-Received: Fri, 14-Dec-84 01:35:22 EST
Organization: Human Computing Resources, Toronto
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It seems to be fashionable for ethically enlightened females to assume
implicitly that women are inherently more reasonable than men, and that
men are the primary causes of the violence and hate in the world.  I
suspect that this view is caused because

	1)	Traditionally males have taken *visible* roles in the
		traffic of hate and violence,

	2)	The recognition of hate and violence of as an undesirable
		phenomenon is a recent development, and

	3)	Because of 2) we are focussing of the most visible
		features of hate first, that is, 1) above.

As well, there is a failure to distinguish what might actually be two separate
phenomena:  the discrimination practiced by the patriarchy against women, and
the general existence of hate and violence.  The ethically enlightened woman
(who opposes both of these) to bundle the two phenomena carelessly.  This may be
partly due to the nurturing role that women have visibly had.  I think that
there is discrimination that is NOT related to hate and that there is hate
which is not related to descrimination of women.  And vice versa.

I suspect that a more accurate view of violence and hate will have to encompass
the whole social structure that supports it:  *including the women who support
it*.  And I have met enough of the to know that they are not scarce.  I have
met many men who deplore hate (and give love freely) to know that what they
are is not purely a female 'thing'.

The existence of hate and inhumanity IS NOT per se, a sex related issue.  There
may be more ethically enlightened women than men; that fact does not constitute a proof that women are essentially nicer and more cooperative than men.

Studies which contrast male and female behaviour in problem solving situations
say nothing about the behaviour of men and women in the context of a nation at
war, or a nation in the grips of paranoia.  It would be truly interesting to
know just what factors were being contributed by what sexes in those
situations.  Hate and it's acceptance is a highly social phenomenon, not just
an individual or sex-linked phenomenon.

I advocate a wholistic approach to the understanding of society's ills.  There
are too many egocentric assumptions running around that depend on analysis of
isolated cases and unrealistically small systems.

                              Tracy Tims    {linus,allegra,decvax}!watmath!...
   Human Computing Resources Corporation                     {ihnp4,utzoo}!...
 Toronto, Ontario, Canada.  416 922-1937                   ...hcr!hcrvax!tracy

PS.	As you may figure out, my understand of life leads me to belive
	there are no simple solutions to it's injustices and evils, and
	that there are no simple scapegoats to crucify.