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Subject: Re: rape and streetwalking
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Date: Thu, 13-Dec-84 14:42:39 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec 13 14:42:39 1984
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> geoff sherwood  ==  >
> > I am sorry if my being a man and walking down the street at night is seen as
> > threatening to a woman walking towards me.  However, I adamantly refuse to
> > cross the street because my presence may bother her.  If she is sufficently
> > bothered by me to cross the street, so be it.  ...

> 		...therefore you would cross the street so as not to offend the
> man who might have to think about your feelings.  Or maybe you wouldn't cross
> the street-after all, if you, as a woman, cross the street, then you're making
> a statement that you don't trust the man approaching you, and this might hurt
> his feelings.  Dear me, it's better to cross the street than expect a little
> common courtesy!   ...
> 
> L S Chabot


GIMME A BREAK!

**************************************
You cross the street.

No, you cross the street.

No, YOU do it.

Nyah, nyah, nya, nyaah, nyaaaaaaaah
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This is childish

Crossing to the opposite side of the street isn't courtesy.  I
don't know what it is but it isn't courtesy.  I read the article
that started all of this silliness and I got the impression that
the suggestion was meant as a kindness, perhaps.  Not as a
courtesy.

All of this bickering about who should cross the street is
bullshit.  No one should have to cross the street.  What the
hell for.  All this bickering does is dissipate energy and
attention that would more rationally be devoted to the real
problem.  The real problem!  Does anyone remember what it is?
It is rape.  People rape (and murder and maim and make war
and...) and that sucks.

I don't have the answer but I know damned well that the answer
is not, and won't be found by, bickering about whether someone
should cross the street.

This is ridiculous.

Charlie Sorsby
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