Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site pucc-h Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:aeq From: aeq@pucc-h (Jeff Sargent) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: The Start of Something New (I hope) Message-ID: <1567@pucc-h> Date: Wed, 19-Dec-84 00:08:35 EST Article-I.D.: pucc-h.1567 Posted: Wed Dec 19 00:08:35 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 18-Dec-84 07:18:30 EST References: <2743@ncsu.UUCP> Organization: my terminal Lines: 55 >> From: jeffh@brl-tgr.ARPA (Jeff Hanes ) >> I think that a great many people in this group have been treating >> Jeff Sargent unfairly (WRT his recent article), not necessarily out of >> malice, but out of a failure to understand what he is saying. Thanks for the support, Jeff. (I tried to send you a letter to this effect, but it bounced back....) From ncsu!druid (Dave Hesselberth): > I think that what people are really beginning to object to is his *absolute > insistence* on looking at EVERYTHING in terms of religion. I, for one, would > like to see him do a little thinking on his own, perhaps relying on such > things as common sense and personal *feelings*, rather than religious dogma. > Perhaps he does this, but if so, we rarely, if ever, see it on the net. I have long since learned NOT to rely on myself; I mess up too often. (At least in matters of relating to other people, particularly unattached women.) Particularly do I not dare to rely on my feelings, except to use them as clues to finding out what really ails me. Many times have I found, too late, that my attraction to a particular woman had some other, usually pretty mucked up, feelings mixed up with it; usually it was obvious to the woman that something was wrong with this guy, and she bounced me quick -- and it was not till I analyzed the wreckage that I realized what I had really wanted. Common sense dictates the opposite of what everyone in this newsgroup will say; i.e. while the consensus of this newsgroup is "Go for it" in almost any situation, my common-sense approach is "Once burned, twice shy" -- i.e. better to be bearably lonely than to risk yet another such rejection and be unbearably lonely -- especially since I'm near the dividing line already. (More on this point in another article on a different subject.) Thus the only thing I can safely do is try to find what God wants me to do. That itself may not be "safe" in a common-sense way, but it's got a better shot at being the best thing in the long run than trusting my own feelings. In any case, I do a lot of thinking-cum-praying on my own; that's how I discover the roots of many of my problems. It's just that I've got a gigantic number of problems. Those who knew me a lot longer ago than you met me can attest to the fact that (externally at least) I have a lot fewer than I did in, say, the mid- to late 1970's; my relationship with Christ has done some good. He's just got a much longer way to go with me than with others who started out in better shape than I. > [Jeff]'s a pretty neat guy in person, not at all like the image many of you > (who have never met him) may have of him. Give him a break (yes, again). Thank you, Dave, also, for the support. > Soon to spend Christmas on the sunny beaches of Jamaica... "If I were a rich man...." Obviously you have no high-interest mortgage. -- -- Jeff Sargent {decvax|harpo|ihnp4|inuxc|ucbvax}!pur-ee!pucc-h:aeq Jesus has creched the devil's system.