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From: barry@ames.UUCP (Kenn Barry)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Society has already decided what a legal human being is
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Date: Thu, 27-Dec-84 16:20:51 EST
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Posted: Thu Dec 27 16:20:51 1984
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	From faron!pws (Phillip W. Servita):
>>[Paul Dubuc] Suppose a physical condition (sickness, whatever)
>>impares you mental ability for a time.   At that point in time you might
>>fall below the threshold and by your criteria you could be killed rather
>>than treated no matter how likely the treatment would make your future
>>recovery.
>
>   You are making some assumptions about what WE think here. maybe YOU 
>recognize the right for people to 'metabolize' (not live) in such cases,
>but *I* do not. Suppose i am in such a state. Then my parents, friends,
>spouse, etc. has the right to give such treatment or not, depending on
>whether they feel they want me around. I will have no knowledge of the 
>situation, and certainly cannot be hurt by the decision made. As far as 
>I am concerned, THAT WHICH HAS NO CONSCIOUSNESS HAS NO RIGHTS.

	This is absolutely absurd. Do you even read what you write before
posting it? By your "logic" someone could justifiably murder you in your
sleep (no "consciousness").
	At the risk of assuming there was *some* sense in your posting,
I would assume you were really talking about brain-dead or long-term
coma cases where chances of recovery are minimal. If so read Dubuc's
quote again; the two situations are different.
	P.S. I'm pro-choice, if that matters.

-  conscious 'til tonite  -                     Kenn Barry
                                                NASA-Ames Research Center
                                                Moffett Field, CA
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