Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site yale.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!yale!kaufman From: kaufman@yale.ARPA (Qux the Barbarian) Newsgroups: net.college Subject: Re: Programming vs. marks vs. initiative vs. hackers... Message-ID: <6994@yale.ARPA> Date: Sat, 15-Dec-84 17:08:48 EST Article-I.D.: yale.6994 Posted: Sat Dec 15 17:08:48 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 17-Dec-84 03:23:41 EST References: <331@lll-crg.ARPA> <3147@utah-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: kaufman@yale.UUCP (Qux the Barbarian) Organization: Yale University CS Dept., New Haven CT Lines: 24 Summary: Third definition of "hacker" In article <3147@utah-cs.UUCP> coller@utah-cs.UUCP (Lee D. Coller) gives us two definitions of the word "hacker". I have a third: Hacker - An undergraduate who, at the expense of his grades and especially his sleep, spends the week after an "upgrade" to 4.2 BSD porting all the local tools, and the month after that trying to bring Berkeley's tools into some kind of useful state. This is done without anything approaching support from the powers that be in the Department. Am I a hacker? Yes. Would I hire one? Well, if he'll keep working without being paid, why waste the money? Do I have an axe to grind? Gee, I wasn't being too subtle there, was I? Anyway, I don't think those who come after me will tear their hair out at the non-portability of my code. They'll just wonder how I found the time to pass my courses, with my name engraved on half the software on the system.... Off to try and find some time, Qux the Hacker Kaufman@Yale.Arpa Kaufman@YaleCS.Bitnet ..!decvax!yale!kaufman