Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site talcott.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!genrad!wjh12!talcott!gjk From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Reagan's re-election Message-ID: <146@talcott.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Nov-84 21:43:49 EST Article-I.D.: talcott.146 Posted: Thu Nov 29 21:43:49 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Dec-84 05:12:45 EST References: <6166@mcvax.UUCP> <270@spp2.UUCP> <127@talcott.UUCP> <692@erix.UUCP> Organization: Harvard Lines: 63 > In article <127@talcott.UUCP> gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) writes: > > Please keep your rantings in Sweden. > > In Sweden???? Why would Piet Beertema want to rant in Sweden when he both > comes from and lives in Holland. Anyway I don't think he is ranting. He's > just saying what many of us Europeans think. You may not like it, but you > it's better that you actually know what other people think. > > Mike Williams Yeah, yeah, that's about the tenth comment about the typo I made. See my other article for an explanation. I know damn well that many Europeans think this way. And I think that it's a bad attitude. I mean, what would *you* think of an American tourist that goes over to a random European country and simply criticizes it? I think that you'd have a lot of contempt for the person. Remember, this is an American network that your posting to. I have not seen one positive comment about the U.S. coming from Europe in net.politics. Any government does good things and bad things. I could make any country look bad by simply listing its bad qualities. Now, a friend of mine seriously said, "I don't believe you. Name something good that the U.S. Government does." Here's a small example: the millions of illegal aliens in the States. These aliens, although not as well of as American citizens, are much better off than their friends in their home countries. We could just kick them all out and send them back to their respective Latin American countries, but we're not doing this. We're hardly even requiring them to become legal aliens. You may think at this point that I'm simply an American that's awful proud of his own society. No, I'm speaking as a Pole who's awfully impressed with the country that his parents moved him to long ago. I'm also speaking for the many foreign friends that I have that are also very happy with their life in the U.S.A. But if you really want to have a smear campaign, Mike, Steven, Piet, and the rest of you, here goes: Sweden (home of Mike and Steven) is a terrible country. I know, I lived there. At first, my family was on welfare. Since this career was not upwardly mobile, my dad got a position at Stockholm University (perhaps it was University of Stockholm; I don't remember [it was long ago]). The Swedish Government apparantly didn't like this; they put him in a 47% tax bracket, so that he made less money working than he did on welfare. After three years, he got discouraged and left. Too bad. In any case, despite all their efforts (their efforts being 70% of the Swedish GNP), the wealthy are still *very* wealthy in Sweden. In fact, the wealthiest 5% of the population makes more than three times as much as the poorest 20%, while the same ratio in the U.S. is less than three. I guess they are just an inferior society. There, how does that make you feel? --- Greg Kuperberg harvard!talcott!gjk "Eureka!" -Archimedes