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From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg)
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: Laws Nobody Obeys ARE NEEDED
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> I don't know how Hitler and the Jews made it to this category,
> but I am foolish enough to respond anyway.
> 
> I believe that the genocide of the Jews in Europe is more publicized
> than other cases.  I see that someone (Greg Kuperberg) only thinks
> that the Japanese only murdered 500,000 POWs.  Maybe he is right.
> However, I think that the 5 million Chinese should be included, too.
> 
> Consider, Idi Amin killed at least 1 million
>      Joe Stalin     "     "    "   20  "
>      Mao Tse Tsung  "     "    "   25  "
> 
> So, based on scale, Hitler is not the worst.  Even on percentages
> I don't think he would win this dubious distinction.  Here in the
> US, almost 100,000 (estimated) were killed in our Revolutionary War.
> Quite astounding for the total overall population.
> 
> Mark 
> Reina

No, no, I didn't say that Hitler killed 10 million people, I said that he
sent 10 million people (rough estimate.  I am counting 6 million Jews
plus several million Slavs, Catholics, Communists, etc.) to the death
camps.  If you want to count all war deaths, well, Poland alone lost 12
million, the Soviet Union 20 million (although some of those were with
Stalin's help), and various other millions in European countries.  Note
that Poland had about 40 million people to start with...

Now, the Japs may have shot, bombed, etc., quite a few people, but among
the P.O.W.'s that they actually captured, I doubt that it exceeds  500,000.

In any case, pushing around figures too much distances one from Real Life.
Here is Real Life:  Among the descendants of my father's four grandparents,
two-thirds were sent to Auschwitz or Treblinka.  Of course, there are no
records, but this is probable.
---
			Greg Kuperberg
		     harvard!talcott!gjk

"Madam, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the
question whether the white race will survive."  -Leonid Breshnev, speaking
to Margaret Thatcher.