Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site spp2.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!zehntel!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwspp!spp2!jhull From: jhull@spp2.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Bastille mentality (and moriarty's ? Message-ID: <274@spp2.UUCP> Date: Mon, 26-Nov-84 22:22:17 EST Article-I.D.: spp2.274 Posted: Mon Nov 26 22:22:17 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 29-Nov-84 05:34:04 EST References: <268@we53.UUCP> <8200039@acf4.UUCP> Reply-To: jhull@spp2.UUCP (Jeff Hull) Organization: TRW, Redondo Beach CA Lines: 38 Summary: In article <8200039@acf4.UUCP> greenber@acf4.UUCP writes: >jhull@spp2.UUCP asks: >> Now, what alternative do you offer the law-abiding citizen who wants >> to be able to walk home after dark and not fear robbery or murder? > >Regarding the alternatives to capital punishment: lifetime and public >incarceration. ... Show how much fun it must be to never see daylight. > >Ross M. Greenberg @ NYU ----> allegra!cmcl2!acf4!greenber <---- Even though the costs to society are MUCH greater, I can readily support "LIFETIME INCARCERATION." Our society, for some reason, does not seem willing to support this, however. We insist on letting the rogues out, often on parole before their sentence is completely served. Then, we have court rulings that this or that is a violation of their civil rights, e.g., they cannot be required to work to support themselves.Unless and until our society displays the discipline to make "life sentences" precisely that, until the convict dies, I will continue to support the death penalty (not capital punishment). P.S. I, too, am very concerned about unequal application of the law, the possibility of conviction of an innocent person, etc. For these concerns alone, I would gladly support a true life sentence as an alternative to the death penalty. However, it seems to me that our society prefers a death penalty, and I prefer that to the alternative of releasing these vicious animals who have already demonstrated their disregard for the lives of others. out to -- Blessed Be, jhull@spp2.UUCP Jeff Hull trwspp!spp2!jhull@trwrb.UUCP 13817 Yukon Ave. Hawthorne, CA 90250