Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!seismo!ut-sally!utastro!ethan From: ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Educational exposure Message-ID: <872@utastro.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Dec-84 16:12:26 EST Article-I.D.: utastro.872 Posted: Tue Dec 4 16:12:26 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Dec-84 06:28:36 EST References: <32500011@uiucdcsb.UUCP> Organization: UTexas Astronomy Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 25 [] >A. Ray Miller >No creationist individual/group I'm aware of advocates taking children out of >evolutionary classrooms and/or not allowing them exposure to evolution. Quite >the contrary, all creationist individuals/groups I'm aware of advocates >presenting *all* of the evidence available for evolution and *all* of the >evidence available for creation. Creationists, you see, apparently have a >higher respect for the intelligence of students than do evolutionists. We feel >when presented with *both sides*, students are smart enough to make up their >own minds. As I understand it, the arguments in this newsgroup are about whether there is *any* sense in which any version of creationism is a scientific theory and whether there is *any* evidence to support it. Based on what I've read here I'd say no to both. That being the case I think that the scientific evidence for creationism *is being* presented in schools, because there isn't any. I'm of the opinion that if one deliberately lies to children by repeating the material contained your postings then one is wasting their time at best, and seriously damaging their education at worst. "I can't help it if my Ethan Vishniac knee jerks" {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan Department of Astronomy University of Texas Austin, Texas 78712