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From: ethan@utastro.UUCP (Ethan Vishniac)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: Educational exposure
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Date: Tue, 4-Dec-84 16:12:26 EST
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Posted: Tue Dec  4 16:12:26 1984
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>A. Ray Miller
>No creationist individual/group I'm aware of advocates taking children out of
>evolutionary classrooms and/or not allowing them exposure to evolution.  Quite
>the contrary, all creationist individuals/groups I'm aware of advocates
>presenting *all* of the evidence available for evolution and *all* of the
>evidence available for creation.  Creationists, you see, apparently have a
>higher respect for the intelligence of students than do evolutionists.  We feel
>when presented with  *both sides*, students are smart enough to make up their
>own minds.

As I understand it, the arguments in this newsgroup are about whether there
is *any* sense in which any version of creationism is a scientific theory and
whether there is *any* evidence to support it.  Based on what I've read here
I'd say no to both.  That being the case I think that the scientific evidence 
for creationism *is being* presented in schools, because there 
isn't any.  I'm of the opinion that if one deliberately lies to children by 
repeating the material contained your postings then one is wasting their time 
at best, and seriously damaging their education at worst.  

"I can't help it if my     Ethan Vishniac
    knee jerks"         {charm,ut-sally,ut-ngp,noao}!utastro!ethan
                           Department of Astronomy
                           University of Texas
                           Austin, Texas 78712