Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site tty3b.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!mhuxn!houxm!ihnp4!mgnetp!ltuxa!tty3b!mjk From: mjk@tty3b.UUCP (Mike Kelly) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Reagan's re-election Message-ID: <545@tty3b.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Dec-84 14:29:45 EST Article-I.D.: tty3b.545 Posted: Mon Dec 3 14:29:45 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Dec-84 19:13:29 EST References: <6166@mcvax.UUCP> <270@spp2.UUCP> <127@talcott.UUCP> <692@erix.UUCP>, <146@talcott.UUCP> Organization: Teletype Corp., Skokie, Ill Lines: 31 >I mean, what would *you* think of an American tourist that goes over to a >random European country and simply criticizes it? I think that you'd >have a lot of contempt for the person. > It's not a fair comparison. Most Americans are very ignorant about the world around them. Many Europeans know more about American foreign policy than Americans do. Further, these particular Europeans are making a very pointed criticism; they are not just "going over and simply criticizing." >Here's a small example [of a 'good thing' America does]: >the millions of illegal aliens >in the States. These aliens, although not as well of as American citizens, >are much better off than their friends in their home countries. We could >just kick them all out and send them back to their respective Latin >American countries, but we're not doing this. We're hardly even requiring >them to become legal aliens. Greg, you picked the wrong example. You really don't think that Immigration doesn't just round people up and send them back home? They often get sent the very day they are arrested, with no chance to contact family or friends here in the U.S. You can argue that that's justified, but don't tell me it doesn't happen, because it certainly does. To me, most of the examples of "good things" that "America" does are examples of things individual Americans do, not things our government does. For example, the Peace Corps is run as a large propaganda machine, but that doesn't prevent individual Peace Corps volunteers from rising above the bureaucracy to do truly worthwhile things in the field. The government as a government, though, does very little to be proud of, especially with Reagan's gang in charge.