Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site houxf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!houxf!1314jb From: 1314jb@houxf.UUCP (J.BOKOR) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: Big Brother Message-ID: <841@houxf.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Dec-84 22:51:29 EST Article-I.D.: houxf.841 Posted: Mon Dec 10 22:51:29 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 11-Dec-84 07:37:56 EST References: <237@celerity.UUCP>, <221@looking.UUCP>, <839@houxf.UUCP>, <381@hou2g.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.followup:4203 net.flame:7178 net.politics:6241 >> I am amazed at the naivete of those who underestimate the capacity >> of the NSA. ... You better believe they're listening >> to everything, including encrypted messages especially. >...that translates into more than 10^6 MIPS worth of processing. That's >about 1000 Crays and we haven't even begun to talk about encrypted data... >...it is impossible to believe that the NSA could be doing speach (sic) >recognition on EVERY line. Oh, come on, grow up! (-:) First of all, 1000 Crays is a gross everestimate of the expense of carrying out such surveillance. Be creative! This is a *highly* parallel problem. You want a tremendous number of identical pattern recognition machines. Think VLSI. I concede that they can't handle the speech traffic, but don't be so quick to dismiss the possibility of large scale electronic data surveillance. I also concede that they don't listen to absolutely *EVERYTHING*, they have to be selective. Also, don't think that the NSA are the only ones out there listening, there's also the Soviets and the Japanese to think about, just to name two.