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Subject: Re: Re: Comments on Libertarianism
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Date: Sat, 1-Dec-84 03:08:00 EST
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/***** ea:net.politics / flairvax!baba /  7:18 am  Nov 27, 1984 */
>  ...People do not interact with the aggregate that forms society.  
> How then can they owe it a debt? Even more importantly, if they do 
> owe it a debt, how can government claim payment of that debt in 
> the name of the whole?
>                                       J. Bashinski
>                                       ...ucbvax!bashinsk%ucbcory

Wow! What a neat trick!  Let me try a different application.  PG&E has had
the audacity to present me with a bill for my utilities last month.  Now, it 
may be true that I owe a debt to *some* PG&E employees, those who actually had
a hand in delivering gas and electricity to me, and to *some* PG&E shareholders,
those who actually paid for the resources that were used on my behalf, but I
owe *nothing* to the aggregate of PG&E!  Even more importantly, if I *do* owe
it a debt, how can the collections department claim payment of that debt in the
name of the whole?  This is going to save me hundreds of dollars a year!

					Thanks,
						Baba
/* ---------- */

Ok, I'll concede your point. If "society" will start sending me bills, I'll
pay the things. Of course, I expect that they will give me the same option
that OG&E did - to not buy from them, and do without there services.

Of course, until they present me with a contract (like the one I signed
with OG&E), you can tell the board (Society does have a board, doesn't it?
After all, it looks like PG&E and OG&E?) to shove it.