Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!haapanen From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics,net.legal,net.nlang.celts Subject: Re: U.S. Congress Voted for Complete Irish Independence Message-ID: <767@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Thu, 13-Dec-84 02:50:08 EST Article-I.D.: watdcsu.767 Posted: Thu Dec 13 02:50:08 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Dec-84 04:27:21 EST References: <325@bonnie.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 88 Xref: watmath net.flame:7210 net.politics:6296 net.legal:1112 net.nlang.celts:175 > From: jmm@bonnie.UUCP (Joe Mcghee) > Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics,net.legal,net.nlang.celts Joe, I just love the way you see the world. The Usenet is your playground, and... Some of the more civilized of us (the kind who don't firebomb innocent women and children) don't post the same article to fifteen bezillion (ok, fine, make it four) newsgroups. What the hell does this have to do with the Celtic languages? Please! I suppose next you'll be putting a copy in net.abortion and net.rec.coins too. > Upon America's entry into World War I, the war that was supposedly > fought to secure the rights and freedoms of small nations, ... And then WWII was fought to secure the rights and freedoms of big nations (seriously! Take a look at what happened). > To declare the liberation of Ireland one of the purposes of the present war. This does seem sort of silly, since Ireland was under British rule (unless my history is REALLY screwed up), and the U.S. was on the side of the BRITISH in the war. But has anybody ever said governments have to make sense? > Resolved, that THE LIBERATION OF IRELAND MEANS THE COMPLETE SEPARATION OF THE > ISLAND OF THAT NAME, TOGETHER WITH SUCH SMALL ISLANDS AS ARE NOW ADMINISTERED > AS PART OF IT, FROM ALL INVOLUNTARY AND SUBORDINATE POLITICAL CONNECTION WITH > ANY OTHER NATION AND THE COMPLETE FREEDOM OF THE ADULT INHABITANTS TO DECIDE > BY FULL AND FAIR VOTE UPON THEIR FORM OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE COMPLETE FREEDOM > OF SUCH GOVERNMENT, AS THEY MAY ERECT TO DETERMINE ITS RELATIONS WITH OTHER > NATIONS AND TO EXERCISE ALL THE FUNCTIONS OF AN INDEPENDENT NATION ... Well, it's getting a bit legalesish here (not to mention uppercase (!)) but I guess what they mean is self-determination. Well, Ireland definitely has it, and a majority of the Northern Irish also want to stay with the Brits. > ... but the United States shall not > attempt to mold the course of the Irish nation and shall assume no > responsibility for the new government to be erected in Ireland ... Whew! Off that hook, anyway! > ... upon the adoption of a constitution by the people of Ireland, > if said constitution shall erect a republican government, the Secretary of the > Treasury is hereby authorized to purchase bonds of the Irish Government But no Democrats, God forbid! > J. M. McGhee By gads, Joe, three articles in two days is getting a bit much. Even if you are into sadism (just like the boys in the IRA) most of us on the net are not into masochism. Even my 'n' finger (which happens to be the same one used for the entire right-hand side of the keyboard) is getting tired of your articles. Not to mention those of us who have limited disk space on their machines and really dont't need 4x3=12 copies of your articles decomposing on our disks and infesting the disk heads and the like. Unfortunately, I believe you don't even read news so you won't even read this, you slime, since I have NEVER seen you dare print a rebuttal to a flame on the net, **NEVER**. We all know that a pen is mightier than a sword, but Joe, is a firebomb really mightier than a keyboard? BE A MAN AND REPLY! I'm getting sick and tired of you whining about the horrid conditions in Northern Ireland, when your chums are just making things worse by killing off anybody non-Catholic who they can get in their gun sights. Terrorism is goddamn terrorism (and I mean GOD DAMN terrorism) no matter how you dress it. And the thing that REALLY makes me puke is not those idiots over there, but the wimps here in Horth America who think the IRA and Sinn Fein are the greatest thing since sliced potatoes, and keep sending them more money for Molotov cocktails and sniper rifles. The next thing you know, they'll be joining the nuclear club (oh, we'll bomb Brighton first --- hell, they're all Protestants there anyway) and the Irish Americans will applaud until their hands get sore. Just the thing we need to complement Monsieur Reagan... So flame me, Joe, or get off the net! \tom haapanen university of waterloo (519) 744-2468 allegra \ clyde \ \ decvax ---- watmath --- watdcsu --- haapanen ihnp4 / / linus / The opinions herein are not those of my employers, utzoo of the University of Waterloo, and probably not of anybody else either (except possibly me).