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From: biep@klipper.UUCP (J. A. "Biep" Durieux)
Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy
Subject: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment
Message-ID: <377@klipper.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 30-Nov-84 05:49:34 EST
Article-I.D.: klipper.377
Posted: Fri Nov 30 05:49:34 1984
Date-Received: Sun, 2-Dec-84 05:29:13 EST
References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> <359@klipper.UUCP> <315@qantel.UUCP> <276@spp2.UUCP>
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Summary: 

In article <276@spp2.UUCP> jhull@spp2.UUCP (Jeff Hull) writes:
>>In article <359@klipper.UUCP> biep@klipper.UUCP (Biep) writes:
>>>[]
>>>	Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does
>>>	not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when
>>>	it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents
>>>	should have the right to "kill" their children till something
>>>	like the age of 12...
>>>-- 
>>>	{seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep
> 
>
>In article <315@qantel.UUCP> ken@qantel.UUCP (Ken Nichols@ex6193) replies:
>>Is this supposed to be a sick joke or what?  Either this is an example of how
>>ridiculous abortion is or this man wishes to be flamed to death.
>> 
>>I have never heard such a evil thing on this network before...Does
>>this man propose that we set ourselves up higher than any other authority 
>>and kill children because they can't take care of themselves?  
>>------------------
>
>I hold very conservative views on some issues and liberal (or
>libertarian) views on others (e.g., I see merit to the arguments of
>both sides of the abortion question).  Yet, I, too, am shocked by what 
>I read in biep's article.  If he means what I think he means, then Ken
>Nichol's use of "evil thing" is appropriate and I, for one, want to
>see no more of it.
>
>Perhaps he doesn't mean what it seems to me he says.  biep, please
>followup SOONEST.
>
>-- 
>					Blessed Be,
>
> jhull@spp2.UUCP			Jeff Hull
> trwspp!spp2!jhull@trwrb.UUCP		13817 Yukon Ave.
>					Hawthorne, CA 90250

[]
	Well, I had already followed up to ken's article, but since it
	doesn't seem to have reached everybody:

	- I am generally against abortion
	- I wondered what reactions an article like this would cause
	- I wondered how abortion advocators would go about showing out
		the errors in my argument.


Hoping to have calmed everybody this time,
-- 

							  Biep.
	{seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep

I utterly disagree with everything you are saying, but I am
prepared to fight myself to death for your right to say it.
							--Voltaire