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From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: More replies to Ken (and general comments)
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Date: Fri, 30-Nov-84 17:31:18 EST
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Posted: Fri Nov 30 17:31:18 1984
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> > > Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus. Off the scale on the bogus
> > > meter. If you are sitting on a railroad track and a train comes
> > > along, is there nothing you can do to save yourself, or do you step
> > > OFF of the track? Why should God what to save you if you don't care
> > > enough about yourself to do something about it yourself?
> > 
> > This is a good point.  I would even guess that Ken would agree with
> > it, as far as it goes.  Ken's sentence would be more complete if it
> > said "there is nothing that a man can do to save himself *by himself*."
> >
> > Paul DuBois
> 
> No, this is also incorrect since if man *were* by himself (that is, without
> God) then there would be nothing he would need saving *from*.  There would
> be no train to run him down (the train being a metaphor for hell) since
> sccording to Ken it is God who is providing the damnation.

You know as well as I that I meant that a man cannot save himself
without assistance, i.e., by himself.
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Paul DuBois		{allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois