Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!mhuxn!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxl!pvp From: pvp@ihuxl.UUCP (Philip Polli) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Creationists want evolution taught? Message-ID: <1451@ihuxl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Dec-84 16:53:16 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxl.1451 Posted: Mon Dec 3 16:53:16 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Dec-84 19:14:29 EST Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 38 Miller writes: >No creationist individual/group I'm aware of advocates taking children out of >evolutionary classrooms and/or not allowing them exposure to evolution. Quite >the contrary, all creationist individuals/groups I'm aware of advocates >presenting *all* of the evidence available for evolution and *all* of the >evidence available for creation. >... The inference they have created is that creationists don't want their >children to hear about evolution. Homework: Demonstrate said claim or retract >it. I'll accept any published statement, in context, from ICR, CRS, BSA, or >SOR. The actual result of creationist pressure on educators is the removal or playing down of evolution in school textbooks. To misquote Sagan, this is an observable fact. To quote a much abused book, "By their fruits you shall know them". What creationists claim is their goal, and what they are actually accomplishing are two different things. They don't appear to be too upset at the simple removal of evolution from the textbooks. I do believe that they are as dishonest in stating their goals as they are in interpreting evidence and responding to rebuttals. By the way, it has become quite clear that creationist babblescience contradicts a much wider area than simple evolution. Why don't they insist that their new astronomy (e.g. Riemannian space) and physics (e.g. variable atomic decay rates) be taught also? Why do they only attack evolution? What is it about evolution that disgusts them so much? Of course, if textbooks had to include all of the half-truths and wild assertions needed to support creationism, the teachers would find it difficult to be heard over the laughter of all the students. Phil Polli {ihnp4!}ihuxl!pvp