Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 8/23/84; site ucbcad.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!ucbvax!ucbesvax!ucbcad!faustus From: faustus@ucbcad.UUCP Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment Message-ID: <2832@ucbcad.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Nov-84 03:57:57 EST Article-I.D.: ucbcad.2832 Posted: Fri Nov 30 03:57:57 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Dec-84 05:51:51 EST References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> <359@klipper.UUCP> <315@qantel.UUCP> <276@spp2.UUCP> Organization: UC Berkeley CAD Group, Berkeley, CA Lines: 38 Xref: sdcsvax net.abortion:906 net.politics:5710 net.religion:4825 net.philosophy:1190 > >In article <359@klipper.UUCP> biep@klipper.UUCP (Biep) writes: > >>[] > >> Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does > >> not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when > >> it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents > >> should have the right to "kill" their children till something > >> like the age of 12... > >>-- > >> {seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep > > > In article <315@qantel.UUCP> ken@qantel.UUCP (Ken Nichols@ex6193) replies: > >Is this supposed to be a sick joke or what? Either this is an example of how > >ridiculous abortion is or this man wishes to be flamed to death. > > > >I have never heard such a evil thing on this network before...Does > >this man propose that we set ourselves up higher than any other authority > >and kill children because they can't take care of themselves? > >------------------ > > I hold very conservative views on some issues and liberal (or > libertarian) views on others (e.g., I see merit to the arguments of > both sides of the abortion question). Yet, I, too, am shocked by what > I read in biep's article. If he means what I think he means, then Ken > Nichol's use of "evil thing" is appropriate and I, for one, want to > see no more of it. > > Perhaps he doesn't mean what it seems to me he says. biep, please > followup SOONEST. Some people are just too dense... He did send a followup in which he said that no, in fact he was not serious... I am worried, though, about those people who actually believed that he was serious about this thing and attacked his statements as shocking and terrible. Maybe it says something about the morals of the people who can imagine somebody seriously proposing this sort of thing... Wayne