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From: lat@stcvax.UUCP (Larry Tepper)
Newsgroups: net.followup
Subject: Re: Hackers and others take note
Message-ID: <336@stcvax.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 10-Dec-84 18:00:43 EST
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Posted: Mon Dec 10 18:00:43 1984
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Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO
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Several recent postings regarding revenge by hackers against Newsweek
correspondent Richard Sandza have suggested that he got what he
deserved for calling hackers no more than vandals.  To read these
suggests that you believe nothing more than name calling was done
to him.

Rather, one hacker broke into an account at a local bank, used that
to access TRW's system that tracks credit cards accounts, and then
posted his card numbers on several bulletin boards and invited other
hackers to get him.

You folks would be up in arms too if hackers did this to you.  Be
honest enough to admit it, for heavens sake!  Poetic justice???
Horse S**t!!!

> From: robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya)

> On another note, among all those security breakers will probably come a
> few who will grow up and make computer security a lot more real than it
> is now.  I don't believe the FBI should crack down so hard on these people.
> The problem ought to be solved from the other end, the computer end.
> Don't lock the people up after the damage is done, prevent the damage from
> being done in the first place.

Do you believe these hackers aren't aware of what they're doing?  Do you
believe they're all innocent kids having fun?  I saw a recent item on the
TV news where a hacker broke into the system at a local small business
and completely wiped out all of their disks.  Be lenient on them, eh?
These aren't vandals???  May they visit your system during the evening.

It's pretty much taken for granted that professional thieves can break
into cars or homes in a matter of minutes, burglar system or not.
Apply your logic to this similar situation (and it is similar).  How
expensive of an alarm system should I have to spend to protect my home
and property from common thieves?  Shouldn't we be lenient on them
so that they can later advise the law enforcement and burglar alarm
people on how to prevent them from breaking in?
-- 
One of the survivors...
{ihnp4 hao philabs sdcrdcf ucbvax!nbires}!stcvax!lat	Larry Tepper
Storage Technology, MD-3T, Louisville, CO 80028		303-673-5435