Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!cord!hudson!ihnp1!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-rex!merrill From: merrill@rex.DEC Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: "big bang" a big bust? Message-ID: <85@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Nov-84 08:09:25 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.85 Posted: Thu Nov 29 08:09:25 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Nov-84 08:24:04 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 21 It only takes a couple of stars' worth of mass compressed together to create such a high gravitational field that bends space so much that even the speed of light does not exceed the escape velocity. In other words light cannot get out. You have undoubtedly heard this described as a "black hole." Apt description. Surly if "all the mass of the universe" were compressed to gether you'd have the ultimate black hole and since nothing can travel faster than light nothing could get out. Therefore the universe could not possibly have started from a single point "big bang." I have only ever heard of two ways to counter this using higher math and physics: 1) in the first 1E-?? seconds the laws of phisics were different than we now observe them to be (e.g. Planck's constant, wasn't) and 2) there was no "bang" just an infinitely long process of accrual (one of Fred Hoyle's cosmological contributions -- he's an astronomer as well as a writer.). Curious, Rick