Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site bnl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!philabs!sbcs!bnl!jpm From: jpm@bnl.UUCP (John McNamee) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Hackers and others take note Message-ID: <819@bnl.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Dec-84 23:17:41 EST Article-I.D.: bnl.819 Posted: Sat Dec 8 23:17:41 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 13-Dec-84 01:36:38 EST References: <2612@dartvax.UUCP> <17488@lanl.ARPA> Distribution: net Lines: 21 J. L. Gileswrites: > I began programming when I was 13 (in the late sixties) and > even then the term 'hacker' was derogatory - as it still should be. When I started programming 7 years ago hackers were the ones building their own computer systems. They were writing their own software and designing their own hardware. They shared their knowledge with anybody who was interested. They didnt break into computer systems. A "hacker" was somebody who knew his stuff and spent more time in front of a terminal than he did with his family. As far as I'm concerned, that you were educated in an environment that lacked hackers is your loss. I have called myself a hacker ever since I got really involved with computers. I am proud of being such. That you and the media want to attach some derogatory meaning to the word is your problem. -- John McNamee ..!decvax!philabs!sbcs!bnl!jpm jpm@Bnl.Arpa