Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP (Paul DuBois) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: More replies to Ken (and general comments) Message-ID: <506@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Nov-84 17:31:18 EST Article-I.D.: uwmacc.506 Posted: Fri Nov 30 17:31:18 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Dec-84 05:18:20 EST References: <1114@trwrba.UUCP> Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center Lines: 21 > > > Bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus, bogus. Off the scale on the bogus > > > meter. If you are sitting on a railroad track and a train comes > > > along, is there nothing you can do to save yourself, or do you step > > > OFF of the track? Why should God what to save you if you don't care > > > enough about yourself to do something about it yourself? > > > > This is a good point. I would even guess that Ken would agree with > > it, as far as it goes. Ken's sentence would be more complete if it > > said "there is nothing that a man can do to save himself *by himself*." > > > > Paul DuBois > > No, this is also incorrect since if man *were* by himself (that is, without > God) then there would be nothing he would need saving *from*. There would > be no train to run him down (the train being a metaphor for hell) since > sccording to Ken it is God who is providing the damnation. You know as well as I that I meant that a man cannot save himself without assistance, i.e., by himself. -- Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois