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Subject: Re: re: Supreme Court officializes US idolatry
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Date: Mon, 3-Dec-84 14:34:15 EST
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> >[Yirmiyahu Ben-David]
> >Thus, the Supreme Court has, by officially authorizing nativity scenes
> >be included and funded by Federal monies, put the official stamp of the
> >United States on idolatry. While such idolatry has always been present
> >among the people, it was not officially United States policy before. We
> >can now state that the United States has officially become a pagan and
> >idolatrous nation (if the tree hadn't been enough).
> 
> > 1. Against murder
> > 2. Against stealing
> > 3. Against sexual immorality
> > 4. Against eating part of a living animal
> > 5. For setting up a system of Justice
> > 6. Against idolatry
> > 7. Against blasphemy
> > 
> > So we can now check off number 6.  Those who are concerned about such
> > things should note that numbers 1, 3, 7, and increasingly 5, are
> > also in grave danger.  [BRUNSON]
> 
> What is this list?  A list of absolute good/evil dichotomies for which the
> good side is listed, or a list of things Brunson doesn't like?  Obviously
> it's nothing but the latter.  Frankly, murder and stealing I consider wrong
> because they harm other human beings.  Sexual immorality?  Meaning any
> sexual behavior different from yours?  (Giving Brunson's ramblings on the
> net, if they serve as examples of his sexual behavior, by adhering to his
> standards the human race have died out years ago.  Figure it out.)  Sorry,
> I see no reason for worrying about people's private lives and attempting
> to control their "immorality".  Eating part of a living animal?  People do
> it in Japan.  What's it to you if people choose to eat food in this manner?
> (Granted, the process can be considered inhumane treatment to animals, but
> is it a major moral issue?  You have a strange and sick [and arbitrary] set
> of priorities.)  Justice?  I thought God administers justice.  What business
> is it of ours to do so?  (Unless justice is what we make it and nothing more.)
> Idolatry?  Who cares what or how people worship, as long as 1) everyone remains
> free to choose, 2) the government does not support/condone a particular system
> above (or below) others, and 3) that the belief system does not include
> imposing one's will on other people.  Blasphemy?  You want to get rid of it?
> I think we'd be better off REQUIRING it!  Without blasphemy and sacrilege,
> without that questioning of what certain people think is "obviously" right,
> people whose defense against such questioning is "Shut up or we'll kill you!",
> a civilization is as good as dead.
> 
> Now, I'd like to hear Mr. Brunson's reasons for supporting the particular
> points on his list, and his reasons for believing that certain ideals (held for
> what reason?) are being eradicated.  Of course, if they are based on his
> "learned value orientation" rather than logic and reason, we can just throw
> them right out.
> -- 
> Occam's Razor:  I liked it so much, I bought the company!
> 						Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr

     Rich,

	Sorry but the list is not Mr. Brunson's, it's G-Ds. These are the 7 Noahide laws that G-D commanded all non-Jews to observe( we got 606 more ).

			Eliyahu Teitz.