Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site tove.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hao!seismo!umcp-cs!tove!rene From: rene@tove.UUCP (Rene Steiner) Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: A new question Message-ID: <47@tove.UUCP> Date: Wed, 28-Nov-84 14:30:05 EST Article-I.D.: tove.47 Posted: Wed Nov 28 14:30:05 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Nov-84 19:12:21 EST References: <140@nybcb.UUCP> Organization: U of Maryland, Laboratory for Parallel Computation, C.P., MD Lines: 55 > > > A friend of mine and I were talking about this the other day. > Since everyone is in agreement that anything over warp 1 is faster than > the speed of light, how was the Enterprise ever able to battle other ships > at warp speeds? Or did they always engage other ships at sub light speeds? > I've always been really impressed with the dogfights that go on. One of my favorite instances is in "Journey to Babel" (I think), where the enterprise can't go into warp speed because of some sabatage down by some character pretending to be an andorian or something. ANYway, the alien ship is attacking at warp 10 (it's a suicide ship and uses all it's power for speed and weapons). Kirk's lines go something like this: "Hold on... watch it... " (the ship approaches) "Here she comes ... alright, NOW! PIVOT! FIRE!!!!" Come on! One ship going at sublight, the other at warp 10 (by the formula recently discussed, that's 1000 times the speed of light!) - yet the slower one waits for the other ship and pivots as it passes? I don't think it's possible for two warp speed ships to fight (well, maybe if they were going exactly the same speed); the speed differential is just too great. Refering to the discussion about "Wink of an Eye" ... I've always been amused by the fact that light CRAWLS for them. They're not THAT fast, or are they speeded up to warp speed? How do they see? Also, I noticed that the time flow was wrong. The sped-up people would do something, with some non-sped-up person standing around, then it would switch to the slow action (which should have been DAYS for the fast people, yet the action picked up where it left off), then back and that person was STILL STANDING THERE!!!! Later, (but not enough later) that person might be gone. I think continuity had problems with this one. One last real gripe (I mean, all ST episodes had problems - it was great anyway): I flipped through the comic book on STIII. When Kirk beams down to the genesis planet to find his son dead, first Saavik falls into his arms saying something like "I'm so glad you're here", and Kirk replies "It's ok now" and holds her for a moment. GAHHH! I thought it was bad enough that Saavik was so non-active in the movie (you could argue that she felt taking care of young Spock was more important than going after the Klingons rather than sending a non-military inexperienced scientist - I don't buy it, but you COULD argue that), but here!!!!! And to think I was actually tempted to buy it! BAHHH! - rene -- rene@tove My opinions are my own, and no one can take them away from me!!!