Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC830713); site klipper.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep From: biep@klipper.UUCP (J. A. "Biep" Durieux) Newsgroups: net.abortion,net.politics,net.religion,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Abortion and Capital Punishment Message-ID: <377@klipper.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Nov-84 05:49:34 EST Article-I.D.: klipper.377 Posted: Fri Nov 30 05:49:34 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 2-Dec-84 05:29:13 EST References: <1782@burdvax.UUCP> <779@ariel.UUCP> <359@klipper.UUCP> <315@qantel.UUCP> <276@spp2.UUCP> Reply-To: biep@klipper.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: VU Informatica, Amsterdam Lines: 57 Summary: In article <276@spp2.UUCP> jhull@spp2.UUCP (Jeff Hull) writes: >>In article <359@klipper.UUCP> biep@klipper.UUCP (Biep) writes: >>>[] >>> Human fetuses are no humans, and may be aborted. Since birth does >>> not miraculously brew "humans", the only logical limit is when >>> it becomes clear that a child is reasonable. So I think parents >>> should have the right to "kill" their children till something >>> like the age of 12... >>>-- >>> {seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep > > >In article <315@qantel.UUCP> ken@qantel.UUCP (Ken Nichols@ex6193) replies: >>Is this supposed to be a sick joke or what? Either this is an example of how >>ridiculous abortion is or this man wishes to be flamed to death. >> >>I have never heard such a evil thing on this network before...Does >>this man propose that we set ourselves up higher than any other authority >>and kill children because they can't take care of themselves? >>------------------ > >I hold very conservative views on some issues and liberal (or >libertarian) views on others (e.g., I see merit to the arguments of >both sides of the abortion question). Yet, I, too, am shocked by what >I read in biep's article. If he means what I think he means, then Ken >Nichol's use of "evil thing" is appropriate and I, for one, want to >see no more of it. > >Perhaps he doesn't mean what it seems to me he says. biep, please >followup SOONEST. > >-- > Blessed Be, > > jhull@spp2.UUCP Jeff Hull > trwspp!spp2!jhull@trwrb.UUCP 13817 Yukon Ave. > Hawthorne, CA 90250 [] Well, I had already followed up to ken's article, but since it doesn't seem to have reached everybody: - I am generally against abortion - I wondered what reactions an article like this would cause - I wondered how abortion advocators would go about showing out the errors in my argument. Hoping to have calmed everybody this time, -- Biep. {seismo|decvax|philabs}!mcvax!vu44!botter!klipper!biep I utterly disagree with everything you are saying, but I am prepared to fight myself to death for your right to say it. --Voltaire