Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/3/84; site talcott.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!genrad!wjh12!talcott!gjk From: gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: SOR #2, an obvious point everybody seems to have missed. Message-ID: <166@talcott.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Dec-84 13:31:07 EST Article-I.D.: talcott.166 Posted: Wed Dec 5 13:31:07 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 8-Dec-84 04:49:54 EST References: <734@watdcsu.UUCP> Organization: Harvard Lines: 25 > Miller admits that evolving life is not "an isolated system, free of > external influence". At this point, Miller's argument CEASES TO BE > BASED ON THE SECOND LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS, since the second law of > thermodynamics only describes the behaviour of isolated systems free > of external influences. > > This didn't stop him from going on with his argument, and *claiming* at > the end of his article that thermodynamics supports creationism. Pfui. > > David Canzi > > "...and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words." Ecclesiastes 5:3 The fact that a creationist argument is shown to be folly does not stop him from using the argument at a later date, in the hope that the reader will have forgotten that the argument was already shown to be folly. This particular wrong argument, and the correct reply to it, is about 60 years old. --- Greg Kuperberg harvard!talcott!gjk "Madam, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -Leonid Breshnev, speaking to Margaret Thatcher.