Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 (MC840302); site mcvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!decvax!genrad!wjh12!talcott!harvard!seismo!mcvax!steven From: steven@mcvax.UUCP (Steven Pemberton) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Re: US weapons in Europe Message-ID: <6198@mcvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 27-Nov-84 11:26:45 EST Article-I.D.: mcvax.6198 Posted: Tue Nov 27 11:26:45 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Nov-84 08:33:44 EST References: <470@utcsrgv.UUCP> <116@talcott.UUCP> <6190@mcvax.UUCP> <125@talcott.UUCP> Reply-To: steven@mcvax.UUCP (Steven Pemberton) Organization: CWI, Amsterdam Lines: 25 gjk@talcott.UUCP (Greg J Kuperberg) wrote: > Some of there so-called pacifists actually do not know that their own > governments actually *want* U.S. military support. To which I (Steven Pemberton) replied: > Just because European governments want US arms doesn't mean European people > want them, as is well demonstrated in Holland among others, where the great > majority of people don't want the wretched things. And it doesn't mean > either that we won't complain about the governments wanting them! To which he replied: > And there you're simply wrong. The Steven Pembertons are indeed a > minority in most (but not all!) Western European countries (source: Time > Mag.). These countries are democracies, no? Indeed the Steven Pembertons are in a minority (I'm touched by Time's interest), but not the people who want to get rid of Cruise in many European countries. In both Holland and the UK for instance there are more people against the things than for them. These countries are democracies, yes? Then Cruise should go from them, no? > And liberals are loud-mouths. And all name-calling is ridiculous. Steven Pemberton, CWI, Amsterdam; steven@mcvax