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From: tim@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Tim Maroney)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: net.religion sub.groups
Message-ID: <20980011@cmu-cs-k.ARPA>
Date: Tue, 4-Dec-84 19:51:36 EST
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Posted: Tue Dec  4 19:51:36 1984
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> > I'M GOING CRAZY WADING THROUGH ALL THE SOLEY CHRISTIAN DISCUSSIONS
> > IN HERE! I SPELL RELIEF "s-u-b-g-r-o-u-p" !
> > 
> > net.religion is a place to discuss religionS, not argue about one
> > religion, and Christianity has taken over.  i suspect that discussions
> > might get going if posters and readers didn't find this net.group
> > so ONE SIDED!
> 
> Once again the Christian religion is told to pack up and get out.
> You can say anything you want in here, as long as it isn't about
> Christianity.  Hm.
> -- 
> Paul DuBois		{allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois

Don't be ridiculous.  The complaints were clearly about the fact that the
majority of articles are about subjects in which the complainer has no
interest.  That is usually the case on a religious bulletin board system
which does not strongly partition (as with USENET's subgroups of the forming
of a separate SIG in CompuServe), since the vast, overwhelming, and firmly
dominant majority are Christians.  There is now a subgroup for all this
Christian discussion, so that net.religion need no longer be prejudicial
against non-Christians (I know several who left because SO MANY articles
were on Christian subjects in which they had no interest and there were SO
FEW articles and NO running discussions from a non-Christian viewpoint).
Use it for Christian harangues and elaborate discussions of the Christian
scriptures and Christian doctrine.

Net.religion should be for interfaith discussion and for those groups which
are not numerous enough to warrant their own subgroup.  This is consistent
with usual USENET group usage.  But many Christians seem to think the thrill
of the game is that they can foist Christian doctrine on unbelievers.
Therefore, net.religion.christian is not being used much. Hopefully, we
will see improvement.

(It might be of interest to some to know that when the proposal of using
strong partitioning was broached on CompuServe's Religion SIG, the strongest
foes were the most vocal of the fundamentalist Christians.  Sound familiar?)
-=-
Tim Maroney, Carnegie-Mellon University Computation Center
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"Remember all ye that existence is pure joy; that all the sorrows are
but as shadows; they pass & are done; but there is that which remains."
Liber AL, II:9.