Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!mhuxn!houxm!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!seismo!cmcl2!rna!rocky2!cucard!aecom!teitz From: teitz@aecom.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: re: Supreme Court officializes US idolatry Message-ID: <990@aecom.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Dec-84 14:34:15 EST Article-I.D.: aecom.990 Posted: Mon Dec 3 14:34:15 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Dec-84 05:49:13 EST References: <224@usfbobo.UUCP> <295@pyuxd.UUCP> Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 59 Xref: watmath net.religion:4927 net.religion.jewish:1025 > >[Yirmiyahu Ben-David] > >Thus, the Supreme Court has, by officially authorizing nativity scenes > >be included and funded by Federal monies, put the official stamp of the > >United States on idolatry. While such idolatry has always been present > >among the people, it was not officially United States policy before. We > >can now state that the United States has officially become a pagan and > >idolatrous nation (if the tree hadn't been enough). > > > 1. Against murder > > 2. Against stealing > > 3. Against sexual immorality > > 4. Against eating part of a living animal > > 5. For setting up a system of Justice > > 6. Against idolatry > > 7. Against blasphemy > > > > So we can now check off number 6. Those who are concerned about such > > things should note that numbers 1, 3, 7, and increasingly 5, are > > also in grave danger. [BRUNSON] > > What is this list? A list of absolute good/evil dichotomies for which the > good side is listed, or a list of things Brunson doesn't like? Obviously > it's nothing but the latter. Frankly, murder and stealing I consider wrong > because they harm other human beings. Sexual immorality? Meaning any > sexual behavior different from yours? (Giving Brunson's ramblings on the > net, if they serve as examples of his sexual behavior, by adhering to his > standards the human race have died out years ago. Figure it out.) Sorry, > I see no reason for worrying about people's private lives and attempting > to control their "immorality". Eating part of a living animal? People do > it in Japan. What's it to you if people choose to eat food in this manner? > (Granted, the process can be considered inhumane treatment to animals, but > is it a major moral issue? You have a strange and sick [and arbitrary] set > of priorities.) Justice? I thought God administers justice. What business > is it of ours to do so? (Unless justice is what we make it and nothing more.) > Idolatry? Who cares what or how people worship, as long as 1) everyone remains > free to choose, 2) the government does not support/condone a particular system > above (or below) others, and 3) that the belief system does not include > imposing one's will on other people. Blasphemy? You want to get rid of it? > I think we'd be better off REQUIRING it! Without blasphemy and sacrilege, > without that questioning of what certain people think is "obviously" right, > people whose defense against such questioning is "Shut up or we'll kill you!", > a civilization is as good as dead. > > Now, I'd like to hear Mr. Brunson's reasons for supporting the particular > points on his list, and his reasons for believing that certain ideals (held for > what reason?) are being eradicated. Of course, if they are based on his > "learned value orientation" rather than logic and reason, we can just throw > them right out. > -- > Occam's Razor: I liked it so much, I bought the company! > Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr Rich, Sorry but the list is not Mr. Brunson's, it's G-Ds. These are the 7 Noahide laws that G-D commanded all non-Jews to observe( we got 606 more ). Eliyahu Teitz.