Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site stat-l Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!mhuxn!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!CS-Mordred!Pucc-H:Pucc-I:Stat-L:aat From: aat@stat-l (Jeff Smith) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Flame Broiled Veal Message-ID: <220@stat-l> Date: Wed, 5-Dec-84 13:56:35 EST Article-I.D.: stat-l.220 Posted: Wed Dec 5 13:56:35 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Dec-84 01:16:38 EST Organization: Purdue University Computing Center Lines: 110 [] selections from Al Zantow's article preceded by ">>>" >>>>>>Sulu, set phasers for Quick Fried to a Crackly Crunch !!!!<<< >>>Well, it seems that the lizard brain in all of us was just a little >>>stronger in those brave "great white hunters" who risked great danger, >>>such as steping in deer poop, to rid the world of these savage beasts. I guess a sport should be dangerous before anyone can take part. >>> There is a great need in this type of grunt to be MACHO-MAN, >>>to prove to there buddies what a REAL MAN they are. This is also the I assume that Al personally knows many hunters in order to generalize about them as a group. I'm sure he wouldn't make these assertions on the basis of gut feelings or hearsay. Don't disapoint me and say that you're just shooting off your mouth with no evidence. >>>type of idiot that has a pack of mauler-burro cancer sticks in his >>>pocket, ready on a moments notice to start a forrest or prairie fire, >>>because it is a cool/macho/commie hating/god fearing/real man/ect... >>>thing to do. They never step on the butts bacause that would be >>>showing concern for nature, or someone else's property, which is one >>>of the most uncool/wimpy/nerdy/nature lov'in/homo/commie/turd sucking >>>things to do this side of voting liberal. Ditto. I'm sure that Al can verify that all hunters smoke and never bother to put out the butts. After all, they can find someplace else to hunt after they burn down the forest they are in, and every hunter I've ever spoken to has a fine appreciation of the fact that our natural resources are inexhaustible. Yep, Al, you sure hit the j nail on the head when you pointed out that they do it 'cause it's "cool/macho/...." >>>>>>Sir, phasers have melted, we have to call off the attack<<< >>> Ahhhhhhhhhh, that felt good. I just had to ream out the >>>idiots who made the hunting seasons a royal pain, since when they >>>were not out shooting up the livestock and property, they set fires >>>with there cancer sticks, usualy at 5 or 6 AM just to make it fun. A "royal pain" for whom? You, I hope. I know how good it must have felt, 'cause I also enjoy mindlessly attacking groups when I don't know anything about them. I feel even better when I can completely throw rationality to the winds, and pepper my attack with ridiculous ad hominem slurs and silly generalizations. Of course, it's even better when I can do this in front of a large audience, as you did. >>> On the other hand, there IS a basic human instinct to hunt >>>and kill (we have'nt been out of the tree that long yet). When you You're right, Al. I started feeling that need about half way through your article. (:-) (That's a joke, son, a joke.) >>>get this combined with the "I have to be macho" mentality, you wind >>>up with enough nukes to blow up the world 8 or 10 or 20 or whatever >>>it is up to number of times. (Twice would be enough if you ask me.) >>>>>>Phasers repaired, preparing for next attack Sir.<<< This is even better. After all these years of thinking that the international political situation was responsible for nuclear proliferation, I find that the hunters are behind it. Thank you, Al, for giving the us the benefit of your keen grasp of international politics. >>>You have been warned. >>> >>> Al Zantow >>> >>>"Benson, you are so free of the ravages of inteligence."-Time Bandits >>> So are you, Al, so are you.My, my, Al. How you do go on! Wish I could, but then I don't have the advantage of having my rhinencephalon hardwired to my keyboard. Do you know anyone who hunts? Sounds like you got most of your *insights* about hunters from introspection. I don't know any hunters who hunt because it's a "macho" thing to do. Most of the hunters I know hunt because they enjoy being in the outdoors, reliving a part of America's history, and providing some tasty food for the table. Your arguments that all hunters smoke, burn up the forest, and shoot livestock are vapid generalizations having no factual basis. Even hunters who smoke avoid doing so while deer hunting, since deer don't have any problem smelling cigarette smoke. Hunters that do smoke usually put out their butts, since they would like to preserve the outdoors for the next hunt (ever hear of "field stripping"?) Most hunters also get permission from property owners before hunting. It is true that livestock is sometimes shot by overeager, inexperienced hunters, but that is the exception. As a group, most hunters are VERY CONCERNED about the preservation of the outdoors, for the good reason that they like to spend a lot of time in it. It's true, some hunters do the things that Al Zantow rails against. So what? You can select any group you like, and I can find a few members who do things not condoned by the rest of the group. If you wish, I can generalize from those few members to the rest of the group and post a silly article to net.flame. (Oh, those macho, lizard brained Boy Scouts... Just let me at 'em....) Jeff Smith -- UUCP: {decvax, icalqa, ihnp4, inuxc, sequent, uiucdcs} !pur-ee!pucc-j:aat