Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site osu-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!osu-eddie!karl From: karl@osu-eddie.UUCP (Karl Kleinpaste) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: McNees MacAttack on Ben-David Message-ID: <7@osu-eddie.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Dec-84 16:36:55 EST Article-I.D.: osu-eddi.7 Posted: Mon Dec 3 16:36:55 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Dec-84 19:39:31 EST References: <1783@ucf-cs.UUCP> Organization: Society for the Advancement of Raw Weirdness Lines: 49 ---------- > Mr. BenDavid: > > You constantly refer to your keeping Torah. I thought one of the > most important aspects of this was the sacrifice of animals for your > sins. Do you still practice animal sacrifice?? > > ********************************* > * Yiri responds: > * WHERE do I constantly keep referring to MY keeping Torah? I've > * tried to be keep my discussions on the level of issues rather > * than what *I* do, etc. It seems to me that you and other Christians > * are simply desperate to change the subject and avoid the issues I > * keep repeating. I will not run off on another subject. Your failure > * to answer the assertions continues to reinforce both the findings > * of Bagatti and Parkes (and others of course) as well as the simple > * conclusions derived from those assertions. Stick to those issues > * rather than attacking me for typos when I answered a query about > * Mensa on another net, and similar drivel. Stick to the issue until > * you answer it (which is impossible because of historical documen- > * tation) or acknowledge it. What I do or do not do in no way affects > * the truth of the assertions and conclusions I've presented. When > * you get down to personal attacks and challenges to me, you're > * really showing your desperation. > ********************************** ---------- Hmm... Yes, Yiri, you have a point. I cannot recall any time at which you claimed that you, personally, do thus-and-so a thing. No argument there. However, and not wishing to change the subject or avoid any questions, it is significant that Christians frequently find themselves on the defensive (and perhaps deservedly so) because they themselves do not always do that which they claim others should do. Frequently in these cases, the whole of such a Christian's argument is dismissed because he cannot or does not "practice what he preaches." Hence, it is an interesting question, at least from an intellectual point of view. Do you practice the whole of the Torah? If not, there is at least historical precedent for telling you to take a hike. (No, I am not doing so, nor do I ever intend doing so.) If so, I wonder in all honesty how you manage it. -- From the badly beaten keyboards of best address---+ him who speaks in *TyPe* f-O-n-T-s... | V Karl Kleinpaste @ Bell Labs, Columbus 614/860-5107 {cbosgd,ihnp4}!cbrma!kk @ Ohio State University 614/422-0915 cbosgd!osu-eddie!karl