Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site stcvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!godot!harvard!seismo!hao!stcvax!lat From: lat@stcvax.UUCP (Larry Tepper) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Hackers and others take note Message-ID: <336@stcvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 10-Dec-84 18:00:43 EST Article-I.D.: stcvax.336 Posted: Mon Dec 10 18:00:43 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 12-Dec-84 04:24:58 EST References: <410@gitpyr.UUCP> Organization: Storage Technology Corp. Louisville, CO Lines: 41 Several recent postings regarding revenge by hackers against Newsweek correspondent Richard Sandza have suggested that he got what he deserved for calling hackers no more than vandals. To read these suggests that you believe nothing more than name calling was done to him. Rather, one hacker broke into an account at a local bank, used that to access TRW's system that tracks credit cards accounts, and then posted his card numbers on several bulletin boards and invited other hackers to get him. You folks would be up in arms too if hackers did this to you. Be honest enough to admit it, for heavens sake! Poetic justice??? Horse S**t!!! > From: robert@gitpyr.UUCP (Robert Viduya) > On another note, among all those security breakers will probably come a > few who will grow up and make computer security a lot more real than it > is now. I don't believe the FBI should crack down so hard on these people. > The problem ought to be solved from the other end, the computer end. > Don't lock the people up after the damage is done, prevent the damage from > being done in the first place. Do you believe these hackers aren't aware of what they're doing? Do you believe they're all innocent kids having fun? I saw a recent item on the TV news where a hacker broke into the system at a local small business and completely wiped out all of their disks. Be lenient on them, eh? These aren't vandals??? May they visit your system during the evening. It's pretty much taken for granted that professional thieves can break into cars or homes in a matter of minutes, burglar system or not. Apply your logic to this similar situation (and it is similar). How expensive of an alarm system should I have to spend to protect my home and property from common thieves? Shouldn't we be lenient on them so that they can later advise the law enforcement and burglar alarm people on how to prevent them from breaking in? -- One of the survivors... {ihnp4 hao philabs sdcrdcf ucbvax!nbires}!stcvax!lat Larry Tepper Storage Technology, MD-3T, Louisville, CO 80028 303-673-5435