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From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Zonker T. Chuqui)
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Subject: Re: A solution to mod vs open net problem. PLEASE READ !!!
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Date: Sat, 27-Oct-84 14:12:58 EST
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> OK,  now  for my  suggestion.   For  each  mod.xxx form a mod.xxx.r for
> articles  that  was  rejected by  the  moderator.

As a moderator, I am very strongly AGAINST such a suggestion because the
procedures for doing this already exist. If I refuse to post something to
mod.singles, the person who originally sent it to me can simply submit it
to net.singles instead. Look at some of the implications of mod.singles.r:

o	If I don't post something but instead suggest modifications to an
	article to make it more appropriate, I would have to post a version
	of the article to mod.singles.r, even though an improved version
	would show up in mod.singles shortly. 

o	If I find something to be completely useless, tasteless, obscene,
	or any of the other basic reason for not posting it, I'm STILL
	going to be forced to post it. This has implications of legality,
	among other things. If someone sends me the sources to the System V
	kernel for posting to mod.singles, I would reject them as being
	inappropriate to the topic and refer them to mod.singles (who would
	reject them as being illegal). But in both cases we'd have to post
	them to mod.singles.r and mod.sources.r because they were rejected
	and suddenly our sites are both being inundated by thousands of
	AT&T lawyers on the hunt (just kidding, AT&T, really!)

o	Looking at the worst case, let us assume (this is PURELY
	hypothetical-- really!) that I decide to become a megalomaniac
	psycho with delusions of grandeur (remember, this is PURELY
	hypothetical-- I'm not that way-- really!) who feels that the only
	appropriate articles for mod.singles are the ones I agree with
	(C'mon, quit believing that stuff-- I'm making it up! honest!).
	Am I REALLY going to post the rejected stuff to mod.singles.r and
	slit my own throat? I may be insane, but I'm not stupid (I'm STILL
	joking, folks....). Users would have to resort to net.singles
	anyway-- that is exactly why we AREN'T planning on removing any of
	the net groups.

The basic reason I'm against mod.singles.r is responsibility. As a
moderator I have a responsibility to the readers to post everything to the
topic that I get that is within the frame of the topic. The things that I
don't post are things that I feel either aren't appropriate to the topic or
in some way make the net liable, such as unix sources. By forcing me to
post the rejected items as well, you are forcing me to take an implicit
responsibility in those things I don't feel I can be responsible for as
well. The responsibility for posting a rejected article should lay on the
author, not on me.

chuq
-- 
From the Department of Bistromatics:                   Chuq Von Rospach
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  I'd know those eyes from a million years away....