Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe From: mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Rhetoric versus Factual Argument: An Example Message-ID: <832@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7-Nov-84 23:27:27 EST Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.832 Posted: Wed Nov 7 23:27:27 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 05:22:01 EST References: <959@phs.UUCP> <280@qantel.UUCP> <1650@ucf-cs.UUCP> Reply-To: mangoe@maryland.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 22 In article <1650@ucf-cs.UUCP> yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid) writes: > There is nothing 'saving' in believing in a counterfeit. Neither you nor > any of the others has shown any kind of logical basis to dispute these > things which I have rather clearly and forcefully shown on the net over > the past few weeks. You just continue to spout the same unfounded drivel > giving the same anti-historical reasons. This article is totally free of rational argument, and essentially consists of the author corwing over the ineffable greatness of his own position. Is it any wonder that the voices of Christendom in net.religion have acquired a certain note of frustration? At least when I argue with Rich Rosen, I can get him to tell me what he is trying to say. In the last week, Yirmiyahu has done nothing but claim that only he is qualified to evaluate his arguments. If that is what he really believes, I don't see why he bothers. Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoe "Faith without works is dead."