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From: crl@pur-phy.UUCP (Charles LaBrec)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Re: getting rid of Orphaned Response
Message-ID: <1493@pur-phy.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 29-Oct-84 15:37:51 EST
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Posted: Mon Oct 29 15:37:51 1984
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Reply-To: crl@pur-phy.UUCP (Charles LaBrec)
Organization: Purdue Univ. Physics Dept., IN
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Summary: 

>Have you got a program that takes the text (note: NO HEADERS) of a response,
>who originated it, when it was posted, what group it's in, and a notes
>id number of the base note, which is NOT available for reference, and
>generates a title? The transmission of a response does NOT include a title.  
>If it did, the problem would never have appeared in the first place.

That's true, I had forgotten about the case where notesfiles sites transfer
articles between one another in notesfiles format.  However, I think that
the majority of the problem occurs at the notes/news interfaces, since I
feel that it is extremely simple for replies to arrive before the basenote
from news rather than notes.  It could at least be fixed at these points.

>It's rather difficult to run news if you don't have any news feeds within
>affordable distance (local call in 817 area code), because everyone else is 
>running notes, and all you have to interface news with is the really old 
>and horrible notes/news interface.

True, if you have no choice, you're stuck.  We kept both versions around
for about a year, and two copies of the junk is just too much wasted disk
space.

>Also, my version of rn still dumps core occasionally.  Larry Wall did a 
>fantastic job in trying to make rn portable, and from what I have seen, the 
>user interface is excellent, too. I think there are a few bugs still lurking 
>around, and I'm still not sure it beats notes.  I don't have it working to 
>the point I can believe it really works grouping topics together as well as 
>notes does.

Bugs #1-#19 have been posted that fix most of the problems found.
(One more is lurking, waiting for the "official" fix.  Raise the declaration
of filename[] in filexp() in intrp.c to LBUFLEN from MAXFILENAME until
something better comes along.)  We run on a PDP-11/44 and right now rn is
very stable.  As to whether it beats notesfiles, I think so, but that's
just my opinion.

>				Gordon Burditt
>				convex!ctvax!trsvax!sneaky!gordon
>				microsoft!trsvax!sneaky!gordon


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