Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site loral.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!simard From: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Fuzzy headed liberal Message-ID: <618@loral.UUCP> Date: Sun, 4-Nov-84 15:01:06 EST Article-I.D.: loral.618 Posted: Sun Nov 4 15:01:06 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Nov-84 06:26:22 EST References: <595@loral.UUCP> <1190@dciem.UUCP> Reply-To: simard@loral.UUCP (Ray Simard) Organization: Loral Instrumentation, San Diego, CA Lines: 26 Summary: In article <1190@dciem.UUCP> mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) writes: >================== >Ray Simard: >Selfishness is being unwilling to contribute of oneself for the good of >others. This opposition is being unwilling to allow government to >FORCE contribution to others, inefficiently, to the wrong benefactors, >without accountability, using methods that have been empirical failures >for decades. Quite a difference. >================== >Martin Taylor: >Emprical failures for decades? You can say that in the face of the >longest period of sustained prosperity in the modern history of >the Western World (1945 until the oil shock). The failure to which I referred is the failure of government largesse to cure poverty. Yes, the economy as a whole has done well for the interval you mention. I wasn't refering to that - only that some half-trillion dollars have been spent since the War on Poverty, and the poverty rate is barely changed. The experiment hasn't worked, and it is long since time to re-think it. -- [ I am not a stranger, but a friend you haven't met yet ] Ray Simard Loral Instrumentation, San Diego {ucbvax, ittvax!dcdwest}!sdcsvax!sdcc6!loral!simard