Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!herbie From: herbie@watdcsu.UUCP (Herb Chong, Computing Services) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.college Subject: Re: Free and undirected campus computing facilities Message-ID: <652@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Tue, 13-Nov-84 17:47:32 EST Article-I.D.: watdcsu.652 Posted: Tue Nov 13 17:47:32 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Nov-84 03:58:42 EST References: <457@utcsrgv.UUCP> <649@watdcsu.UUCP>, <425@watcgl.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 28 I agree, but there is freedom of resources and freedom of access. One has been lost and probably will never be recovered. The PDP 11/45 was sufficiently small and isolated that few people even heard of it (I played adventure on it once). Only to a relatively small community was it available to do almost anything. Today, a small percentage change in access means a lot of users and usually a lot of hardware. People who know what they're up to can still do all kinds of things on the micros, but the VAXen are no longer a freebie curiosity that needed to be used to justify themselves. With the increase in the user community came adminstration, and then resource control. I am fortunate is having access to Unix source, but it is a priviledge I earned by being a bug-shooter, not because I thought I had something that someday might be interesting. Unless the resources are there just for personal use, someone is going to ask a user to justify their resource consumption. Herb Chong... I'm user-friendly -- I don't byte, I nybble.... UUCP: {decvax|utzoo|ihnp4|allegra|clyde}!watmath!watdcsu!herbie CSNET: herbie%watdcsu@waterloo.csnet ARPA: herbie%watdcsu%waterloo.csnet@csnet-relay.arpa NETNORTH, BITNET: herbie@watdcs, herbie@watdcsu POST: Department of Computing Services University of Waterloo Waterloo, ON N2L 3G1 (519)886-4733 x3524