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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Direct flame at those who make up lists of "boring people"
Message-ID: <221@pyuxd.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 25-Oct-84 11:42:14 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct 25 11:42:14 1984
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Our friends at the 'down' system, Peter Honeyman and ??? North, have
performed a "wonderful" service for the net.  They have formulated a list
of "boring people", and have put them all on a mailing list.  (THEY, of
course, are on another list called "fun-people".  Note that the word
"wonderful" is in quotes for a reason.)  Most of the people on this list
were never informed of their inclusion.  (I was told about my inclusion
months ago---and told by Mr. Honeynorth that I had no choice in the matter;
others were probably included later once they figured out how to implement
this scheme.)

This is "wonderful" for several reasons:

1.  You get tons of useless mail consisting mostly of people complaining about
	Honeynorth's elitist/snobbish/assaholic behavior for putting people
	he doesn't like on a list of "boring people" while they get on a
	list of "fun people" (probably just the two of them; note how the
	names of the lists have been accidentally/incompetently reversed. :-)
	(Yes, I include my own diatribe on the subject that I mailed to the
	list among the "useless", though Mark Callow's quoting of Byron on the
	subject of who is REALLY the snob---the one who is labelled as such or
	the labeller---was probably not.)

2.  If you should choose to respond to this mailing list with a) a request to
	get off of it (which they have already stated that they would ignore)
	and/or b) mocking their silliness and ridiculousness for making the
	mailing alias in the first place, you a) get your own letter mailed
	back to you (since you ARE on the list) and b) get tons of error
	messages from various mailers because the "postmen" failed to set up
	the list properly with correct addresses.

I suggest that anyone choosing to mail to the alias address for this mailing
list should also send a copy (CC:) to 'honey' and 'north' on the same machine.
Why shouldn't *they* have to filter through all the stuff that everybody on
the list gets swamped with without their consent?

(Lest you think that honeynorth really did pick only boring people because you
see that *I* have been included, let it be said that large numbers of people
on both sides of all arguments I've seen on the net have been included,
including some people who don't "argue" at all.  I would recommend that the
members of the list should actually be honey, north, and perhaps Ken Arndt to
add a bit of class to the membership.  They could even change the name from
"boring people" to "fun people" or "clever intelligent people" if they like. 
Lots of people get to live under delusions; why not them?...)
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						Rich Rosen    pyuxd!rlr