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From: yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid)
Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.religion
Subject: Re: Proposal for net.religion subgroups
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Date: Thu, 1-Nov-84 07:48:53 EST
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Posted: Thu Nov  1 07:48:53 1984
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From what I have seen, the REASON that Christianity has been
'challenged' is because Christians make assertions based upon 
the presumtion of their rightness. Without that presumption,
their arguments fall apart. But the proper place for starting
with the presumption of rightness is on your own net, not on
a general net expecting the world to accept your presumptions
just because you do. When the world balks at your presumptions
of rightness you have no right to claim that your are then
simply fending off a challenge. Begin by presenting your
position starting with logical arguments for these basics,
not presuming they are so and that you can THEREFORE build
upon them. Leave that to net.religion.christian. I'm getting
the impression that Christians don't want a net.relgion.
christian. What they want is to continue preaching to every
one else and EXPECTING us to automatically accept these
initial presumptions of rightness. But it won't wash.