Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gatech.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!gatech!spaf From: spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: net.news,net.misc Subject: Re: Contest: Reply to the Bozo Message-ID: <10622@gatech.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Oct-84 23:24:25 EST Article-I.D.: gatech.10622 Posted: Wed Oct 31 23:24:25 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Nov-84 06:30:23 EST References: <10578@gatech.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech Lines: 47 Xref: gatech net.news:1640 net.misc:3817 Okay, enough. I've received mail from a number of people whose opinions I respect and they have suggested (to varying degrees) that I shouldn't have made my original posting. Maybe so. I'll cancel it. Normally, I can tolerate assholes fairly well, but this time it got through to me. My apologies for hauling it into the net for the rest of you to see. To those of you who sent mail to "bozo" agreeing with him, I really resent being labeled as a "facist". I also resent the very hostile attitude of the person who sent me the original mail, and I really wonder just what some of you were agreeing with. If you were agreeing that news 2.10.2 was buggy, you obviously haven't tried it -- it isn't. If you were agreeing with his personal attack, I'd like to know why. I will stop posting biweekly "checkgroups" messages. Too many sites don't support it and I refuse to deal with both the mail load AND the abuse when I try to do something about it. It also has caused problems for at least one of our neighboring sites due to the mail traffic, and I don't wish to inconvenience them further. If anyone else out there is foolish enough to want to try braving the storm, let me know and I'll provide you with all the necessary tools to bury yourself. The caretaker's job of maintaining the list of active newsgroups is also available to anyone who believes he'll do a less "facist" job of maintaining it. And as for all the so-called "bugs" in 2.10.2, I have seen very little sign of them. 2.10.2 came up in a matter of 3/4 hour here, and we haven't had any problems with it. Neither have any of our neighbors. We're running it under 4.1, 4.2 and System V, on Vaxen and on a Pyramid. We've seen some features which need re-evaluation and tuning, but no major bugs. It seems that people who put in the "rn" hacks or who didn't install the patch kit Rick sent out are the only ones with any problems, and I believe those to be relatively minor. As it stands, 2.10.2 is much more bug-free than the version of 2.10.1 we were using. In any event, if Rick is still on schedule, 2.10.3 will be out in a matter of a few weeks and even those small bugs will be fixed. I don't believe rudeness is appropriate or acceptable, on the net or elsewhere. For my part, at least, I apologize to you readers if my original posting was rude. Sometimes, even a Vegan can be provoked too far. -- Off the Wall of Gene Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf%GATech.CSNet @ CSNet-Relay.ARPA uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-sally}!gatech!spaf