Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucf-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!duke!ucf-cs!yiri From: yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid) Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.religion Subject: Re: Proposal for net.religion subgroups Message-ID: <1633@ucf-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Nov-84 07:48:53 EST Article-I.D.: ucf-cs.1633 Posted: Thu Nov 1 07:48:53 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Nov-84 07:08:07 EST References: <187@hocsj.UUCP> <1619@ucf-cs.UUCP>, <1495@qubix.UUCP> Organization: UCF, Orlando, FL Lines: 17 From what I have seen, the REASON that Christianity has been 'challenged' is because Christians make assertions based upon the presumtion of their rightness. Without that presumption, their arguments fall apart. But the proper place for starting with the presumption of rightness is on your own net, not on a general net expecting the world to accept your presumptions just because you do. When the world balks at your presumptions of rightness you have no right to claim that your are then simply fending off a challenge. Begin by presenting your position starting with logical arguments for these basics, not presuming they are so and that you can THEREFORE build upon them. Leave that to net.religion.christian. I'm getting the impression that Christians don't want a net.relgion. christian. What they want is to continue preaching to every one else and EXPECTING us to automatically accept these initial presumptions of rightness. But it won't wash.