Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84 chuqui version 1.7 9/23/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!nsc!chuqui From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Zonker T. Chuqui) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: A solution to mod vs open net problem. PLEASE READ !!! Message-ID: <1724@nsc.UUCP> Date: Sat, 27-Oct-84 14:12:58 EST Article-I.D.: nsc.1724 Posted: Sat Oct 27 14:12:58 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 28-Oct-84 06:13:23 EST References: <543@rayssd.UUCP> <146@geowhiz.UUCP> Organization: The Warlocks Cave, Castrovalva Lines: 52 > OK, now for my suggestion. For each mod.xxx form a mod.xxx.r for > articles that was rejected by the moderator. As a moderator, I am very strongly AGAINST such a suggestion because the procedures for doing this already exist. If I refuse to post something to mod.singles, the person who originally sent it to me can simply submit it to net.singles instead. Look at some of the implications of mod.singles.r: o If I don't post something but instead suggest modifications to an article to make it more appropriate, I would have to post a version of the article to mod.singles.r, even though an improved version would show up in mod.singles shortly. o If I find something to be completely useless, tasteless, obscene, or any of the other basic reason for not posting it, I'm STILL going to be forced to post it. This has implications of legality, among other things. If someone sends me the sources to the System V kernel for posting to mod.singles, I would reject them as being inappropriate to the topic and refer them to mod.singles (who would reject them as being illegal). But in both cases we'd have to post them to mod.singles.r and mod.sources.r because they were rejected and suddenly our sites are both being inundated by thousands of AT&T lawyers on the hunt (just kidding, AT&T, really!) o Looking at the worst case, let us assume (this is PURELY hypothetical-- really!) that I decide to become a megalomaniac psycho with delusions of grandeur (remember, this is PURELY hypothetical-- I'm not that way-- really!) who feels that the only appropriate articles for mod.singles are the ones I agree with (C'mon, quit believing that stuff-- I'm making it up! honest!). Am I REALLY going to post the rejected stuff to mod.singles.r and slit my own throat? I may be insane, but I'm not stupid (I'm STILL joking, folks....). Users would have to resort to net.singles anyway-- that is exactly why we AREN'T planning on removing any of the net groups. The basic reason I'm against mod.singles.r is responsibility. As a moderator I have a responsibility to the readers to post everything to the topic that I get that is within the frame of the topic. The things that I don't post are things that I feel either aren't appropriate to the topic or in some way make the net liable, such as unix sources. By forcing me to post the rejected items as well, you are forcing me to take an implicit responsibility in those things I don't feel I can be responsible for as well. The responsibility for posting a rejected article should lay on the author, not on me. chuq -- From the Department of Bistromatics: Chuq Von Rospach {cbosgd,decwrl,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!nsc!chuqui nsc!chuqui@decwrl.ARPA I'd know those eyes from a million years away....