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From: spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford)
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Subject: Re: Contest: Reply to the Bozo
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Date: Wed, 31-Oct-84 23:24:25 EST
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Posted: Wed Oct 31 23:24:25 1984
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Okay, enough.  I've received mail from a number of people whose
opinions I respect and they have suggested (to varying degrees) that I
shouldn't have made my original posting.  Maybe so.  I'll cancel it.
Normally, I can tolerate assholes fairly well, but this time it got
through to me.  My apologies for hauling it into the net for the rest
of you to see.

To those of you who sent mail to "bozo" agreeing with him, I really
resent being labeled as a "facist".  I also resent the very hostile
attitude of the person who sent me the original mail, and I really
wonder just what some of you were agreeing with.  If you were agreeing
that news 2.10.2 was buggy, you obviously haven't tried it -- it isn't.
If you were agreeing with his personal attack, I'd like to know why.

I will stop posting biweekly "checkgroups" messages. Too many sites
don't support it and I refuse to deal with both the mail load AND the
abuse when I try to do something about it.  It also has caused problems
for at least one of our neighboring sites due to the mail traffic, and
I don't wish to inconvenience them further.  If anyone else out there
is foolish enough to want to try braving the storm, let me know and
I'll provide you with all the necessary tools to bury yourself.

The caretaker's job of maintaining the list of active newsgroups is
also available to anyone who believes he'll do a less "facist" job of
maintaining it.

And as for all the so-called "bugs" in 2.10.2, I have seen very little
sign of them.  2.10.2 came up in a matter of 3/4 hour here, and we
haven't had any problems with it. Neither have any of our neighbors.
We're running it under 4.1, 4.2 and System V, on Vaxen and on a
Pyramid.  We've seen some features which need re-evaluation and tuning,
but no major bugs.  It seems that people who put in the "rn" hacks or
who didn't install the patch kit Rick sent out are the only ones with
any problems, and I believe those to be relatively minor.  As it
stands, 2.10.2 is much more bug-free than the version of 2.10.1 we were
using.  In any event, if Rick is still on schedule, 2.10.3 will be out
in a matter of a few weeks and even those small bugs will be fixed.

I don't believe rudeness is appropriate or acceptable, on the net or
elsewhere.  For my part, at least, I apologize to you readers if my
original posting was rude.  Sometimes, even a Vegan can be provoked too
far.
-- 
Off the Wall of Gene Spafford
The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332
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