Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucf-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!duke!ucf-cs!yiri From: yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid) Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.religion Subject: Re: Proposal for net.religion subgroups Message-ID: <1619@ucf-cs.UUCP> Date: Sun, 28-Oct-84 08:53:32 EST Article-I.D.: ucf-cs.1619 Posted: Sun Oct 28 08:53:32 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 30-Oct-84 08:15:29 EST References: <187@hocsj.UUCP> Organization: UCF, Orlando, FL Lines: 52 I've been waiting several weeks for the right opportunity to make this suggestion, but Evelyn has beaten me to the punch. I think it would also help to satisfy Steve Aldrich in his plea for tolerance. Net.religion is a general term where no religion should start with the basis that they are right and it's up to everyone else to PROVE differently. Yet, this is the attitude I see from Christians on net.religion. On the other hand, net.religion. Christian is the proper place for starting with the such an assumption and discussing whatever topics Christians find interesting in whatever manner they wish... as long, of course, as it doesn't get racist/anti-semitic, etc. I can only speak for myself, but I have no desire to express my position on net.religion.Christian unless I see something anti-semitic. If Christians want to PRESUME they are more enlightened than everyone else and that everyone else is pathetically ignorant, lost and doomed, then the place for that is in a forum among themselves rather than arrogantly presenting such an arrogant point of view on a general net hoping to 'save' these poor pathetic souls. Net.religion is where they can hear that it is they who are doomed and lost and unsaved because they believe in a counterfeit antichrist. Net.religion.jewish is a forum where readers and contributors agree that Judaism IS THE correct religion. Discussion is regarding what this means, what is the correct interpretation and/or expression of Judaism, what is the interpretations of sages on various matters, etc. I agree with Evelyn... why don't the Christians have a net.religion.Christian where they can have the same kinds of discussions free of stepping on toes of other religions (within reasonable limits of course). I will not be butting into Christian affairs (unless it gets anti-semitic) for several reasons: 1) I'm not interested in Christianity 2) I have much better things to do and to con- sider 3) I think Christianity is irrelevant. I don't think other Jews would contribute because, in addition to these reasons, they are usually less inclined to bother trying to explain to Christians who are usually closed-minded and argumentative. The point is that I don't think you would have any 'missionary activity' from our side. From the other side of the coin, I'm not at all concerned about trying to convert us. As readers are by now well aware, Judaism does just fine against Christianity. So it seems to me that a net.religion.Christianity would provide Christians with a forum where they could all reinforce one another without having to face critical points of view, it would alleviate net.religion of a group which presently attempts to domineer the forum and presume its own correctness, and would contri- bute to a more serene net.religion. Hats off to Evelyn and Steve. Please start a net.religion.christian.