Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucf-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!duke!ucf-cs!yiri From: yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid) Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.religion Subject: Re: Proposal for net.religion subgroups Message-ID: <1639@ucf-cs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Nov-84 09:35:52 EST Article-I.D.: ucf-cs.1639 Posted: Thu Nov 1 09:35:52 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Nov-84 07:34:18 EST References: <1619@ucf-cs.UUCP>, <967@houxm.UUCP> Organization: UCF, Orlando, FL Lines: 35 In addition to mailing my response, I feel a response is in order regarding the notion of net.religion.christian being redundant vis-a-vis a christian mailing list. A christian mailing list is, in comparison with a net forum open at least to public ears and monitoring (if not to their keyboards), a rather secretive alternative. Such a secretive alternative as a SUBSTITUTE FOR a public forum strikes me as something out of pre-WWII Germany and makes me, as a Jew, very nervous. There are many christian mailing lists, jewish mailing lists, etc. and that is to be expected.... but why is a christian mailing list suggested AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO a forum open to public monitoring? Is this to be a network where KKK and neo-nazis can spew their obscenities without fear of being 'found out'? Well, I don't think so... but, on the other hand, we see from such things as the Donahue shows that this is not an unreasonable fear. It also strikes me as contradictory that christians are fighting against having a forum of their own... that they PREFER to try their best to IMPOSE their unjustified presumptions on others and that 'discussion' is simply a ruse to give them an excuse to do it. If this were not so, they could do it far more effec- tively on their own net. Why is it that I suspected from the outset that christians would oppose their own net? Because the notion of IMPOSING their ideas on others is an integral part of their religion. As a Jew, I am aware of the consequences of this integral element of their religion. It has not gone away and is not, even now, very far from us. Evil prefers the cloak of darkness and secrecy. Uprightness prefers the light.