Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.rumor Subject: Re: vaporware Message-ID: <4613@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sat, 10-Nov-84 19:53:16 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.4613 Posted: Sat Nov 10 19:53:16 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 10-Nov-84 19:53:16 EST References: <20300008@okstate.UUCP> <10400170@uiucdcs.UUCP> <4567@utzoo.UUCP>, <200@desint.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 19 > Gee, the info I have is that Sun has had a 68020 for months now. I would > look for them to intro a 68020 board at Comdex next week, myself. Have they had production quantities running at 16+ MHz? I doubt it. And product announcements mean nothing (that's what my comment was all about, dammit!); it's deliveries that count. And I would suspect that Sun may well be on Motorola's "favored customers, get samples early" list. [Disclaimer: I have no experience with Sun's marketing practices. They may well be one of the few companies that don't announce something until they are ready to deliver it.] Actually, I'm told that the 68020 is well into the process of moving from vaporware to real hardware, so I may (repeat, may) have been slamming it unfairly. But the FPP and MMU for it are still vaporware, and that's a major black mark. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry