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From: jsgray@watmath.UUCP (Jan Gray)
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Subject: Re: Free and undirected campus computing facilities - Not at Waterloo
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Date: Tue, 13-Nov-84 19:27:19 EST
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Posted: Tue Nov 13 19:27:19 1984
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Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario
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> Unless the resources are there just for personal use, someone
> is going to ask a user to justify their resource consumption.

This sums up the way thinking has changed here at Waterloo.  I had free
and unrestricted access to good old Math Unix and I was a mere "snotty" 15
year old high school kid.  In those days anyone could get an account just for
the asking...Results weren't demanded, and if you did do something
neat, well good for you!

Nowadays, you must "justify your resource consumption".  You can no longer
"hack" -- just write (or not write) whatever you feel like; if you
wish to get a UNIX account you must be willing to do software work
(however trifling) for the Math Faculty, and there are no accounts for
learning UNIX!

The hackers are gone.  As long as the "justify your existence" attitude
prevails, they won't return.  It's a pity.

Are you experiencing the same symptoms at *your* university?

"Oh, for the good old days!"

Jan Gray (jsgray@watmath.UUCP)   University of Waterloo   (519) 885-1211 x3870