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From: yiri@ucf-cs.UUCP (Yirmiyahu BenDavid)
Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.religion
Subject: Re: Proposal for net.religion subgroups
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Date: Sun, 28-Oct-84 08:53:32 EST
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Posted: Sun Oct 28 08:53:32 1984
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I've been waiting several weeks for the right opportunity to make
this suggestion, but Evelyn has beaten me to the punch. I think 
it would also help to satisfy Steve Aldrich in his plea for
tolerance.

Net.religion is a general term where no religion should start
with the basis that they are right and it's up to everyone else
to PROVE differently. Yet, this is the attitude I see from
Christians on net.religion. On the other hand, net.religion.
Christian is the proper place for starting with the such an
assumption and discussing whatever topics Christians find
interesting in whatever manner they wish... as long, of
course, as it doesn't get racist/anti-semitic, etc. I can
only speak for myself, but I have no desire to express my
position on net.religion.Christian unless I see something
anti-semitic. If Christians want to PRESUME they are more
enlightened than everyone else and that everyone else is
pathetically ignorant, lost and doomed, then the place for
that is in a forum among themselves rather than arrogantly
presenting such an arrogant point of view on a general net
hoping to 'save' these poor pathetic souls. Net.religion is
where they can hear that it is they who are doomed and lost
and unsaved because they believe in a counterfeit antichrist.

Net.religion.jewish is a forum where readers and contributors
agree that Judaism IS THE correct religion. Discussion is 
regarding what this means, what is the correct interpretation
and/or expression of Judaism, what is the interpretations of
sages on various matters, etc. I agree with Evelyn... why
don't the Christians have a net.religion.Christian where they
can have the same kinds of discussions free of stepping on
toes of other religions (within reasonable limits of course).
I will not be butting into Christian affairs (unless it gets
anti-semitic) for several reasons: 1) I'm not interested in
Christianity 2) I have much better things to do and to con-
sider 3) I think Christianity is irrelevant. I don't think
other Jews would contribute because, in addition to these
reasons, they are usually less inclined to bother trying to
explain to Christians who are usually closed-minded and
argumentative. The point is that I don't think you would
have any 'missionary activity' from our side. From the other
side of the coin, I'm not at all concerned about trying to
convert us. As readers are by now well aware, Judaism does
just fine against Christianity. So it seems to me that a
net.religion.Christianity would provide Christians with a
forum where they could all reinforce one another without
having to face critical points of view, it would alleviate
net.religion of a group which presently attempts to domineer
the forum and presume its own correctness, and would contri-
bute to a more serene net.religion. Hats off to Evelyn and
Steve. Please start a net.religion.christian.