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Subject: Re: Who is a Jew (Mr. Martillo's bark worse than his bite!)
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w (Mr. Martillo's bark worse than his bite!)
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I  do  not like to reply out of order, but I feel compelled to point out
ignorant, assimilated ashkenazim dreck is not an epithet  which  I  have
used.   In  fact,  if I used it, I would have used ignorant, assimilated
ashkenazi dreck which I would not  say  either  since  I  try  to  avoid
Yiddishisms.   I  have a low opinion of Ashkenazi behavior over the past
300 years, but I will not label the majority of the Jewish people dreck.
One  of  my  grandparents  was  an Ashkenaziah.  While that branch of my
family is the lowest and crudest, they have lately proven susceptible to
levantinization  (some  of  them  have  become Ba`alei Teshubah and have
renounced their leftest VusVus Mapam immorality).

Vocabulary:

Ashkenazi -- refers to Jews whose ancestors accepted  the  authority  of
Rab  Moshe  Isserles, I consider many Ashkenazi practices Christianizing
an opinion also held by Jacob of Emden and Rabbi Moshe Haim Luzzatto  --
which  gives a partial explanation for Jewish assimilation in the USA --
if you are 3/4 there why not go all the way?

dreck -- Yiddish for garbage.

ba`alei teshubah -- returnees [to the normative practice of Judaism]  --
means something different to Ashkenazim than to Sefardim.

VusVus  --  derogatory  epithet  for  Yiddish  speaker  or descendent of
Yiddish speakers.

Mapam -- mindlessly leftist party in Israel -- used to  consider  Israel
and the Soviet Union Jewish homelands.