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From: brunson@usfbobo.UUCP (David Brunson)
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Subject: Re: Christianity, sex
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Date: Sun, 23-Sep-84 00:47:25 EDT
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From Jerry Nowlin:

>     I guess my feeling is if you want to get on a church discipline kick  why
>not  start kicking out the bigots and hypocrites that masquerade as christians
>instead of the "sinners" that are trying to  find  out  what  christianity  is
>about.

"kicking out bigots and hypocrites that masquerade as christians" is
precisely what I've been advocating.  Somehow many people seem to have
misread the relevant postings.  At no time have I suggested that sinners
seeking to learn about Yeshua should be shunned.

>         Even  if  you  judge  people  to be sinners, which the bible says you
>shouldn't ...

Where does the Bible say that?

>"No longer seeking"

If the experiences you mentioned (cigarette-smoking deacons, racist
church members) halted your search for the truth, you must not have
wanted it *too* much.  And I certainly hope you aren't suggesting that 
believers should feel shamed because you've given up!

From Rich Rosen:
>It would seem that this Paul character is the antichrist that Christians
>have been speculating about for thousands of years.  He takes all of
>Jesus' teachings of love, tolerance, and justice, and subverts them
>into "thou shalt not"s and intolerance and the same "letter of the law
>vs. spirit of the law" that Jesus was supposedly trying to eradicate.
>
>Hmmm...

It's hard to understand what causes your misunderstanding, but I suspect
it is ignorance of the true character and mission of Yeshua (who is
returning to "rule with a rod of iron").  I recommend daily intensive
Bible study (the whole Bible, of course).
-- 
David Brunson

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"Please."
"Thank-you!"
"You're welcome."