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From: dxp@pyuxhh.UUCP (D Peak)
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Subject: Re: new twist on computer "crime" and law
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Date: Mon, 1-Oct-84 10:55:17 EDT
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Re : Unions and telecommuting.
 
 Someone recently stated that they hadn't seen much union
activity in regards to recruiting computer professionals.
Well it's on the way. The US for several reasons lags
behind Europe as far as union membership is concerned.

When I was last employed(am now self employed) 9 years
ago by a US corporation in England the unions already
had a good solid foot in the door through organization
of computor operators,data prep staff and some programmers.
One thing the unions fought for and won was overtime pay.
The employers view was that a programmer was a member of
management and thus was recompensed in other ways than
overtime pay. The unions (and a lot of programmers) stated
that they were technicians and thus deserved overtime pay.

One thing that unions appear to have gained in Britain is
5 weeks paid vacation (check UK computer publications).
When I left Britain starting vacation entitlement was 
3 weeks and 3 days. I don't know how strong the unions are
in DP industry nowadays (maybe a more recent ex-pat could
post more info).
-- 

    Dave Peak (pyuxhh!dxp)

   "Thank God I'm an atheist !!!"                    
   - Dave Allen