Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fisher.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!amd!dual!zehntel!ihnp4!mhuxj!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!fisher!david From: david@fisher.UUCP (David Rubin) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Who is a Jew (Mr. Martillo's bark worse than his bite!) Message-ID: <347@fisher.UUCP> Date: Tue, 2-Oct-84 10:53:15 EDT Article-I.D.: fisher.347 Posted: Tue Oct 2 10:53:15 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Oct-84 20:35:01 EDT References: <1438@ittvax.UUCP>, <223@fisher.UUCP> <225@mit-athena.ARPA>, <253@fisher.UUCP> <255@mit-athena.ARPA>Re: Who is a Jew (Mr. MartilTue, 2-Oct-84 09:53:15 CDT Organization: Princeton Univ. Statistics Lines: 20 Martillo is very wrong in asserting that Soviet Communists have treated their Jews worse then the Tsarists did. Jews in the Soviet Union are persecuted and surpressed, but Tsarist Russia was only exceeded by Nazi Germany in its virulent and violent attacks upon Jews. The worst Soviet leader (Stalin) was, from a Jewish perspective, equivalent to one of the less hostile Tsars. Pogroms do not take place in the Soviet Union, and nothing apporaching a pogrom has ever taken place there with the exception, again, of Stalin. You also commented that Spanish persecution of the Jews following the expulsion of the Moors makes it stupid for any Jew to involve himself in Spanish politics. Would you ignore the plight of a righteous child because of his father's wickedness? Perhaps it WAS foolish for Jews to die for Republican Spain, but the answer lies in that generation, not half a millenium ago. For example, while France has a long and venerable anti-Semitic tradtion, it was very much in Jewish interests that the 1789 revolution succeed. David Rubin {allegra|astrovax|princeton}!fisher!david