Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cepu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrba!cepu!scw From: scw@cepu.UUCP (Stephen C. Woods) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Defeating Reagan, pass 2 Message-ID: <347@cepu.UUCP> Date: Fri, 28-Sep-84 11:16:24 EDT Article-I.D.: cepu.347 Posted: Fri Sep 28 11:16:24 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 30-Sep-84 03:15:31 EDT References: <217@boulder.UUCP> Reply-To: scw@cepu.UUCP (Stephen C. Woods) Organization: VA Wadsworth Med. Center; LA CA Lines: 92 In article <217@boulder.UUCP> jon@boulder.UUCP (Jon Corbet) writes: >[ In many states you must register to vote in the next couple weeks! ] > >Herein: Responses to a couple of responses to my original "Defeating >Reagan" article. > > >>> Mondale has promised to end the >>> war in Nicar[...]e harbors and supplying airplanes and money? >I call that a war... ME too. But it's not clear tht we should/could end it. > >>> - Nuclear freeze. Mondale supports it. Reagan supports building >>> many more weap[...]what is the "current predicament"? Isn't >it just terrible that we have to work so hard to maintain an overwhelming >advantage over the Soviets? > Right on, Up the freeze! >---- >> - Nuclear war. Mondal[...]t strike. By preparing for a first >strike of our own (MX, cruise missiles are first strike weapons), we >just increase the tension. WHOA! Hold on here, Stop, Freeze the board. WRONG WRONG WRONG Cruise missiles are NOT repeat NOT repeat NOT a first strike weapon. A first strike weapon is one that can nail missiles in their Silos, without any chance of a launch. Please pray tell me how can a missile (an aircraft actually) that will take up to 5 hours to reach its target (and not less that 30 min (if there are any missile silos within 300NM of Germany) can be a first strike weapon. I do agree that the MX looks like a use-it or lose-it (and a loser) system, that's why I like Midgit-Man better (a much less profitable target). > > Mondale has promised to end the >> war in Nicaragua[...] wrongdoing. We also support Isreal with >>**advanced weaponry. > >If Mondale intends to do that, I certainly would not even consider voting >for him. He proposes a cessation of the illegal, covert aid. Illegal? Seems to me that congress has authorized it, that makes it the law of the land, and hence, legal. > >> - ERA. Mondale supports it, Reagan does not. >>**I will for the second time request a copy of the ERA. The first time was >>**met with no response. > >I can no longer remember the exact text, but it is very simple (< 50 >words). Paraphrasing, it says: > > " The United States shall make no law that discriminates > on the basis of sex." > No bones here, I don't really think that the ERA would make much difference anyway (given the current set of anti-discrimination laws). >> - Environmental issues. Reagan's attitude toward the environment >> is demonstrated by h[...]eason -- to remove any obstacles to >big business that made them actually have to consider the environment >in their actions. > An outdoors lover who has never heard of the EPA? >-- >Jonathan Corbet >National Center for Atmospheric Research. The problem is MUCH MUCH more complex that can be covered in any reasonably sized posting. Esentally the whole enviromental issue boils down to: How much is it going to cost to clean up the last n digits of crap? By cost I mean real cost (options forgone, resources used, jobs destroyed, and last of all money). By the way, to bring up an old sore point. Remember when RR stated that trees are a major source of smog? And how he got flamed by the Enviromentalists? Well have you ever been in North Carolina and seen all the pine tree plantations there? have your eyes ever stung? do you know just what that lovely fragrance of pine tree is made of? Well I'll tell you mate, HYDROCARBONS, pretty noxious ones at that. The smog in a large pine forest is just as bad if not worse that any in LA. I know I've lived in both places. The only reason that LA has a bad rep is that it also has an inversion for 3-6 Months a year. -- Stephen C. Woods (VA Wadsworth Med Ctr./UCLA Dept. of Neurology) uucp: { {ihnp4, uiucdcs}!bradley, hao, trwrb, sdcrdcf}!cepu!scw ARPA: cepu!scw@ucla-cs location: N 34 3' 9.1" W 118 27' 4.3"