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From: brunson@usfbobo.UUCP (David Brunson)
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Subject: Re: Consider it denied?
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Date: Tue, 16-Oct-84 02:53:02 EDT
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"Yiri's Last Stand"?  Looks to me like he's just getting started!

> [Yiri Ben-David:]
>The  passages  in  the New Testament touching  upon  this  matter 
>suffer from Christian redaction to MAKE the Divinity of 'Jesus' a 
>'true'  doctrine  and thus harmonizing the  notion  with  popular 
>Roman  notions.  The reality is that such ideas are indicative of 
>Roman  ideology  of  that period,  not Jewish  ideology  of  that 
>period. 

Bagatti in chapter 2 says that the Nazarenes held a divinity doctrine
which distinguished them from the Ebionites who accepted only the
Messiahship of Yeshua.  Is Bagatti in error on this point?  If so,
then what did he find in his research that led him to believe this?
Did the N'tzarim believe something more in line with Jewish ideology which
Bagatti erroneously calls a "divinity doctrine"?  If so, what?

Also can you go into more detail on the specific redactions (at least
provide a couple of examples, maybe? -- say the accounts of the
virgin birth, "I and my Father are one", etc.)

I'd like to note publicly that this is by far the most interesting
discussion I've yet seen in net.religion.  It would be nice if the
quality could stay on this level.
--
David Brunson

"... and harmless as doves"