Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site usfbobo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mcnc!duke!ucf-cs!usfbobo!brunson From: brunson@usfbobo.UUCP (David Brunson) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Consider it denied? Message-ID: <204@usfbobo.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Oct-84 02:53:02 EDT Article-I.D.: usfbobo.204 Posted: Tue Oct 16 02:53:02 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Oct-84 08:13:18 EDT References: <1559@ucf-cs.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of South Florida, Tampa Lines: 31 [] "Yiri's Last Stand"? Looks to me like he's just getting started! > [Yiri Ben-David:] >The passages in the New Testament touching upon this matter >suffer from Christian redaction to MAKE the Divinity of 'Jesus' a >'true' doctrine and thus harmonizing the notion with popular >Roman notions. The reality is that such ideas are indicative of >Roman ideology of that period, not Jewish ideology of that >period. Bagatti in chapter 2 says that the Nazarenes held a divinity doctrine which distinguished them from the Ebionites who accepted only the Messiahship of Yeshua. Is Bagatti in error on this point? If so, then what did he find in his research that led him to believe this? Did the N'tzarim believe something more in line with Jewish ideology which Bagatti erroneously calls a "divinity doctrine"? If so, what? Also can you go into more detail on the specific redactions (at least provide a couple of examples, maybe? -- say the accounts of the virgin birth, "I and my Father are one", etc.) I'd like to note publicly that this is by far the most interesting discussion I've yet seen in net.religion. It would be nice if the quality could stay on this level. -- David Brunson "... and harmless as doves"