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From: dwight@timeb.UUCP (Dwight Ernest)
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Subject: Re: No joy?
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Date: Mon, 8-Oct-84 23:17:51 EDT
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Posted: Mon Oct  8 23:17:51 1984
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Concerning the origin of the phrase, "no joy," which I've heard on various
civil aviation radio frequencies where it seems to mean, "I don't have the
traffic in sight," I think it means exactly that, and that's where it has
its origin... fighter pilots, reputed to be the famed macho warriors,
unlike their portrayal as sensitive, caring husbands, fathers, and lovers
as in "Call to Glory" (a show I enjoy a great deal, incidentally), are
SUPPOSED to get a great deal of "joy," you see, upon sighting their
quarry as pointed out to them by sighters and ground and airborne radar
operators... therefore, from the radio call, "no joy," we can surmise
they haven't sighted the b*st*rds yet. I think it's just carried over into
civil aviation, where all pilots (at least those I know) enjoy emulating
their heroes (in such ways as adopting a pseudo-Texan accent, like that
of the hero of "Right Stuff") whether they have a military background
or not.

I think.

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