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Subject: Re: Re: nicaragua
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Date: Wed, 3-Oct-84 02:01:00 EDT
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>Most of the counter-revolutionaries in Nicaragua are Nicaraguan 
>peasants, or Miskito or Misura indians against whom the Sandinista government
>is pursuing a genocidal campaign. 

No. The Honduras-based terrorists are mostly former National Guards
who were exiled instead of shot, since the Sandinista's outlawed
Capital Punishment. A Miskito contingent exists, led by Steadman Fagoth,
who is well documented as a highly paid CIA "Informant".

Never any evidence of genocide, several border villages were moved,
under international observation.



>Further there have been many reports ( all of which have been ignored by
>Amnesty International since they don't match THEIR illusions either ) of 
>imprisonment and torture of men, women and children in their pursuit of 
>ideological purity. 

Well, Amnesty international has illusions which cause it to overlook
Mr. Roberts hysterical belief in communist torture, has it? They have found
about a dozen things to complain about in Nicaragua (like bad
food in prison), which puts it
on the same scale as the U.S. and Western Europe; Far better than
Guatemala, South Africa, Israel, Turkey, or the Soviet Union.



>Somoza was a dictator who was justifiably
>overthrown but he has been replaced by a government even more repressive.

Let's see: The Sandinistas are missing some of Somoza's crucial
features, like Death Squads, family control of 60% of the country's
resources, a company which exported human blood, ...



>We are supporting the correct side(s) in Central America. The left-leaning
>press in this country does not understand the region and does us no good in
>their slant of the news.

If We supported the stable (?) governments in both El Salvador and
Nicaragua, or if we asserted that both governments were bad, and supported
the rebels, you might be able to squeak by with a statement like that.

As it is, we are supporting whichever side is more bloodthirsty and
promises better tax structures for our corporations.


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You Know, sometimes I wish that such a devout beliver would argue
the real right-wing position, which is that the profits from exploitation
of peasants in Central America are good for our country, and, thus, 
a rise in the prices of coffee or bananas is contrary to our
national security.

That way, the millions spent in the efforts to overthrow progressive 
governments could be justified as a long-term investment, whose
goal is the reinstitution of a "good business climate." This can
be justified to the American people by asserting they will have 
lower banana prices in the future.

Then the national debate would rise from the level of the RED SCARE
to a sensible discussion of economic priorities.

Didn't the Vietnam war finally end because finally some powers realized it
to be a bad "investment?"

I mean, the Utilities justify rate increases to cover cost overruns
in constructing Nuke Plants -- we can put another line on our 1040 forms:  
1% tax for "Deconstruction Work in Progress".


For Bananas, I'd Rather Pay than Slay,

Jordan