Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site akgua.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!rjb From: rjb@akgua.UUCP (R.J. Brown [Bob]) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Bobby's for Jesus: Desist ?? Message-ID: <1032@akgua.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Oct-84 16:57:33 EDT Article-I.D.: akgua.1032 Posted: Thu Oct 11 16:57:33 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Oct-84 05:58:38 EDT Organization: AT&T Technologies/Bell Labs, Atlanta Lines: 68 Mr Abeles, You recently submitted a severely edited example of one of my submissions. Behold: > > Mr. BenDavid, > > You misrepresent what I desire. > > Do you really prefer secular humanism and paganism to real > Christianity or is it some Hitler or Constantine Christian > straw man you are spewing venom on ? > > Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb} >>[Mr Abeles] >> >>As one who is active in this newsgroup, I would like to say that >>I do not appreciate the proselytizing leanings of Bob Brown's >>submissions. I believe I speak for most Jews when I write that >>I resent his solicitations for non-Jewish causes. Articles of the >>type that he has begun recently to submit with greater frequency >>threaten to destroy the Jewish character of this newsgroup. As there >>is no way to prevent him from submitting articles, I would like to >>ask him to voluntarily refrain in the future from these activities. >> >>--J. H. Abeles >> mhuxm!abeles Refrain indeed, Mr. Abeles.... Mr Ben David and I have had some discussions on and off the net on a variety of topics during the course of which he has maligned me in several ways. This remark you have quoted has been my most severe response ( hardly a flame ). I fail to see the proselyte in me coming out here ( Is this your best example ?) However, "I am what I am by the Grace of God." (That is a quote from about 60 CE from certain Pharisee name Saul of Tarsus) Does that qualify ? Seriously, Joe (and other Jewish persons for whom he presumes to speak) is net.religion.jewish meant to be analogous to net.women.only ? I never got that impression when this group was chartered. Don't forget Joe that Jimmy Carter got into a lot of trouble when he started shoveling that "ethnic purity" jazz. Surely if it is I will hear about it ! Before you issued this rebuke I had posted an article entitled "Judaism and Polygamy". Read it carefully Joe to see if you can find the hidden prosyletizing skillfully embedded between the lines.:-) You know it is ironic. We "religionists" have an unfailing foe over in net.religion named Rich Rosen. But I never for one second ever suggest that he take a hike from the group although he proselytizes unstintingly for his Rationalism. And here I defend myself in semi- rational discussion ( you know ..somebody calls you a Bigot and implies your a double B Blasphemer.) and get creamed by Abeles as a prosyletizer "Can you say proselytize ?" "I knew you could.." Mr. R*dgers Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}