Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sdcsla.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcsla!pickens From: pickens@sdcsla.UUCP (Karen Pickens) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: Rights and Rosen Message-ID: <668@sdcsla.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Sep-84 02:03:54 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcsla.668 Posted: Wed Sep 19 02:03:54 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Sep-84 01:40:31 EDT References: <972@pyuxn.UUCP> <2953@alice.UUCP>, <695@opus.UUCP>, <962@pyuxa.UUCP> Organization: U.C. San Diego, Cognitive Science Lab Lines: 29 I can't believe this discussion is still going on, especially if people aren't interested, as T.C. Wheeler implies, but... I'm 24 years old, and *someday* (hopefully) my S.O. and I are going to have kids. We do discuss how we will raise them, as interesting hypothetical situations come up. I assume we will continue to discuss it after we have kids. Ear aches and diaper rash *are* important, but that's not all there is to having kids. I do think, however, that R.R. is being misinterpreted (as has been said so often.) I personally *think* I agree with him a lot -- sure, your kids tend to have your values, but you can't force them to; by not letting them see what the rest of the world believes, for example, or telling them "I (or God) say so, therefore it's true." After a certain age, they will see that other authority figures say differently, and may (like I did for awhile) swing from believing blindly in one figure to another, or give up on "authority" completely. *Sometimes* saying "I believe this is true, here's why" is more easily digested than "I say so." On the other hand, if your kid runs in the street, grab her first and *then* explain why... I think the best way to instill values in children is to live them yourself, know why you have them, and be able to explain them clearly and calmly. Back to work, Karen Pickens - UCSD