Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxp.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpesch From: wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: War and Death Message-ID: <865@ihuxp.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Oct-84 17:33:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxp.865 Posted: Thu Oct 11 17:33:18 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Oct-84 04:45:20 EDT References: <856@ihuxp.UUCP> <272@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 40 >>> I'll agree that "religion" has been used as a psychological prop for those >>> who want war; I won't agree for a minute that it is a cause of war. >>> >>> "Religions don't cause wars; people cause wars." >>> >>> Charley Wingate Is that the reasons why the hoardes of 8 -> 12 year olds are going in as the first Living Wave for Allah in their holy Jihad against Iraq. And all of the Reformation Wars. The early wars around 1000 AD as Norway and Sweden went to it as Christian Sweden was "evangelizing via swordpoint." (Remember the old Spanish inquisition: Confess and you will die quickly - else...) The Jewish revolutions circa 0 BC. The entire "history" of the Old Testament. That is a quick sample off the top of my head across history of some major conflicts caused over religion. There are more. In its being used by the leaders to sermonize to the troops - of course. Nothing like a little religious fervor to stir the troops blood up. Just look at its power - e.g. Jonestown, Okinawa. In fact, how about the kamikaze attacks of WWII where the greatest honor is to go die for your emperor, who is considered to be a member of the pantheon. By the way, the reference to Okinawa is for all the Japanese civilians who threw themselves off the cliffs so that none would have not died firghting the "American Dogs". Yeah, I'll take you and all your little friends from net.religion on... better have them bring lots of brimstone. You think net.flame is hot, I am just getting ready for the burning in hell that I will be doing. Walt Pesch AT&T Technologies ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpesch