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From: richard@apple.UUCP (Richard Johnson)
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Subject: Re: Richard Johnson: Let's talk Apple to Apple!
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Date: Mon, 1-Oct-84 01:35:01 EDT
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[manges-moi]

Ken,
    Wherever did you get the idea that blacks have won their battle ? Just
because the legislation exists doesn't make them 100% free yet. I'm sure I
don't need to give you examples. But then, neither are *any* groups (I won't
use minorities here - the WASPs will soon be the minority) 100% free from the
primitive prejudices of Our Wonderful Country. You and I both know there is 
a white, predominantly male ruling class. Period. To what degree acceptance
is made shouldn't be an issue. Thirty years ago, blacks were in just about
as high favor as gays. If not worse, due to their visibility in the society.
Sure, they've paid their dues. We gave them no choice. Ditto homosexuals. 
Where is the logic in disputing another's right to LIVING AS THEY PLEASE, 
when your forebearers fought for the same thing ? If not you yourself ?
I could be wrong, but sometimes I think you still are stinging from your own
search for *whatever*, and want to make sure others have a tough time. 
Fuck this issue of genetics/hormones/choice/too much peanut butter before
age 13. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO JUST LIVING YOUR LIFE AS YOU PLEASE ? I don't
advocate messing with other people's lives, either. But then, I have told
a Baptist preacher to go fuck himself to his face for bothering me with his
paranoid convictions. 
     An analogy I read recently: Why can't homosexuality be like buying 
shoes ? Just because you don't like the shoes doesn't mean you run into
the shoe store and bludgeon the owner. I hear you on the AIDS issue and
promiscuity. I hear you on unsafe sexual practices in general, exclusive
of preferences. I hear you on pedophiles. But your arguement about 'we
still have to pay dues' (not any sort of quote) is falling on deaf ears.
I know that. What would you like to do to help ?

Richard Johnson