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From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS])
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Subject: Re: Re: Apple Shafts America; or, The Computer For the Rich of Us
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Date: Wed, 3-Oct-84 07:25:50 EDT
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Posted: Wed Oct  3 07:25:50 1984
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> How much *GOOD* software will be written for a Mac if the developers have
> to buy a Lisa, (see some of the other articles for a few flames about those)
> and cannot get software or hardware for a reasonable price; and then after
> all that, their market is ~10% of the size of the IBM PC market.  If you
> were a developer, which would you buy:  
> 	a $5000 Mac with nothing, plus an $8000 Lisa with very little;
> or
> 	an $8000 IBM PC/XT system, with available software for *ANY*
> 	development task ?
> 				(*  Prices approx.  *)

$5000 Mac?  I recall the Mac proces are down to $2195 US or so.  This
is for a 128K Mac, which is what you want for development, because you
can't expect all your potential customers to have 512K Macs, and
anything that runs on 128K will run on 512K.  $8000 Lisa?  Aren't
Lisas available for $4000-5000?  This would add up to about $7000
(plus serial cable) for a Lisa/Mac system...  Not that bad.

The new BYTE has an ad (in the back pages) for 256K chips.  They're
advertised as LOW PRICED, and are selling for $49.95.  Sixteen of
those critters would cost you $800.  So Apple is charging the Mac
owners a whole $200 more than the bare chips would cost, uninstalled.
What a rip-off!  :-)

And no, I don't own any Apple stock and/or products.

Tom Haapanen		University of Waterloo		(519) 744-2468

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