Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site sunybcs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!sunybcs!hobbit From: hobbit@sunybcs.UUCP (Thomas Pellitieri) Newsgroups: net.jokes.d Subject: Re: Origin of that strongest of words Message-ID: <705@sunybcs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Oct-84 09:47:45 EDT Article-I.D.: sunybcs.705 Posted: Tue Oct 16 09:47:45 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Oct-84 04:59:02 EDT References: <1559@uvacs.UUCP> <631@erix.UUCP> Reply-To: hobbit@gort.UUCP (Thomas Pellitieri) Organization: State University of New York @ Buffalo,NY Lines: 47 Summary: In article <631@erix.UUCP> nabiel@erix.UUCP (Nabiel Elshiewy) writes: >>>> ... the current slang word for sexual intercourse is "neuken" ... > >>> Where I come from (Scotland, a slang word for sexual intercourse >>> is 'nookie'. Gives more credence to the argument that English is >>> just a bastardised form of Dutch. > >> Where I came from (Minnesota, U.S.A.), a slang word for sexual intercourse >> was "nookie", at least as early as the 1930's. >> ... When did you have in mind that English became a bastardized >> Dutch? > >This word (either neuken , nookie, or something in between) is of ARABIC >origin. Its noun is pronounced something like "Naik". ... >So the claim that English became a bastardized Dutch is not true. >The truth is that both are bastardised form of Arabic. > >PS. The word is still in use as a slang is some arabic countries !!!. Would anyone care to venture that the root of "neuken" may be found in Indo-European? Since there seems to be a great many languages of the IE family mentioned here, it would perhaps be a reasonable assumption. Is anyone out there familiar enough with IE to help straighten this out? Also, there is the otomatapeiac (sp?) theory to consider. One of my professors believes that Modern English speakers (i.e. Americans) have re-invented the root "-ject" (as in eject, project) in the slang "to chuck". There is a similar sound to the words, and perhaps this is worth considering. Could "neuk-" or "naik-" or perhaps the n-vowel-k be somehow associated with the act in question phonetically? BTW, most of the claims of the form "It's a bastardization of..." don't seem to fit with what I remember from my studies of Etymology. Dutch and English both stem from the Germanic Family of languages, and so the slang probably goes back further than either. Also, there is very little Arabic influence in the English language, as compared to, say, Latin and Greek. From the Headquaters of the Campaign for Real Time, -The Parker Hobbit -- decvax!sunybcs!hobbit or seismo!rochester!rocksvax!sunybcs!hobbit "'Once Upon a Time' should be in the future Storytellers keep it in the past Dreaming's what improves us, Motivates and moves us, You won't be my first love, but you might be my last!"