Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watdcsu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdcsu!haapanen From: haapanen@watdcsu.UUCP (Tom Haapanen [DCS]) Newsgroups: net.auto,net.med,net.consumers Subject: Re: shoulder belt Message-ID: <463@watdcsu.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Oct-84 07:05:03 EDT Article-I.D.: watdcsu.463 Posted: Wed Oct 3 07:05:03 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Oct-84 01:06:09 EDT References: <4924@brl-tgr.ARPA>, <263@digi-g.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 28 The problem with the malpositioned shoulder belts is limited to American cars; European and Japanese cars have the seat belt spool mounted on the floor, with a loop (?) on the door post for the shoulder belt. This allows infinitely better positioning than having the spool (or the other end, for that matter) on the ceiling. Maybe you should write a letter to GM/Ford/Chrysler and tell them to get their act together. Unless, of course, you are looking forward to buying airbags in your next car. The other possible (good!) solution is the purchase of aftermarket seatbelts. If you just want a lap belt, there are many good 3-inch wide (7.6 cm :-) lap belts available. If you're willing to forego a bit of convenience, get a four-point competition system, as these truly hold you in place, be it in cornering or in an accident. If the airbags become mandatory (in which case it'll be bye-bye three-point belts), I believe many enthusiasts will be purchasing this type of systems for their new cars. When you're driving fast and furious, it is dangerous having to hang on to the steering wheel so that you don't slide around (and out of) your seat. Tom Haapanen University of Waterloo (519) 744-2468 allegra \ clyde \ \ decvax ---- watmath --- watdcsu --- haapanen ihnp4 / / linus /