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From: kin@laidbak.UUCP (Kin Wong)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: re: Re:big brother
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Date: Mon, 24-Sep-84 18:52:25 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 24 18:52:25 1984
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>Gee, Kin.  Seems like some things are reasonable to forbid because we find them
>offensive but others aren't.  hmm. 
>
>Now, before we hear a crusade against the government legislating morality, would
>someone name a single law that isn't either 
>
>	a:  based on morality of some form (drinking ages, rape, . . . )
>	    That is, find a law that isn't an imposition of beliefs.
>
>	b:  an arbitrary standard (drive on right hand side of the road, etc.)
>	    That is, imposing the belief that there should be a standard
>

Gee, Rick. What about laws that give you the freedom of expression and
freedom of worship? In what way are you imposed by having the freedom to
choose your own religion? Compare law A: "Everyone has the freedom of
worship" and law B:"Everyone must follow the teachings of (your 
favorite prohpet)", which one is doing the imposing? In what way
are you "imposed" by law A?
Secondly, in cases where there is a consensus, then you can't really say
it is an imposition, for you can't impose morals on people who
already accept them (e.g. you can't impose Christian beliefs (whatever
they are )on christians, any more than you can impose atheistic 
beliefs(whatever they are) on atheists)
Thirdly, do you consider rules set up to maintain some system "moral
imposition"?(e.g driving rules)?  In what way are you morally imposed
when you play any game that have any rules? can you have a system or
even a game without rules?
Finally, even if some (or many) laws are passed on moral grounds, that
does not mean we can passed some laws just because some people can
find moral grounds for them. Some people find the eating of pork or
beef morally offensive, others, the use of contraceptives, and
still others, the non-belief in God; are you suggesting that based on
moral grounds we should passed laws prohibiting the eating of some pork,
beef, etc?

kin wong
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