Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!markb From: markb@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Mark Biggar) Newsgroups: net.columbia,net.aviation Subject: Re: No joy? Message-ID: <1370@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Oct-84 12:52:47 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.1370 Posted: Tue Oct 9 12:52:47 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Oct-84 07:08:22 EDT References: <586@ihlts.UUCP> Reply-To: markb@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Mark Biggar) Organization: System Development Corp. R+D, Santa Monica Lines: 13 Xref: 1144 1022 Summary: In article <586@ihlts.UUCP> rjnoe@ihlts.UUCP (Roger Noe) writes: >Does anyone know the origin and meaning of the phrase "no joy"? I have heard >it now from three astronauts on separate occasions. I think I heard it also >on "Call to Glory" so I am guessing it came from military pilot jargon and >made its way into NASA. I also think it probably means "no success". If >anyone has further details on how the phrase came about, please fill me in. >Why didn't Tom Wolfe have this in "The Right Stuff"? (or did I miss it?) Probably short for "There's no joy in mudville" from the poem "Casey at the bat". Mark Biggar {allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,akgua,sdcsvax}!sdcrdcf!markb