Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 SMI; site sun.uucp Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd!decwrl!sunny From: sunny@sun.uucp (Sunny Kirsten) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: what's rape? Message-ID: <1701@sun.uucp> Date: Sat, 22-Sep-84 17:10:05 EDT Article-I.D.: sun.1701 Posted: Sat Sep 22 17:10:05 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Oct-84 02:30:42 EDT References: <459@hou5g.UUCP>, <1143@drutx.UUCP> <1003@pyuxa.UUCP> Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 20 I sit corrected: >The corresponding word for slut is I believe roue'. Yes indeedy, my off the cuff bachelor vs slut reply was thoroughly wrong, wrong, wrong. Indeed, roue or rake or libertine would be lexicographically more correct opposites of slut. On the other hand, I believe the double standard for *acceptability* of lasciviousness in males vs females still stands. That part has not yet been refuted by anyone on the net (should I have waited longer for a reply?) And while we're at it, since the subject line is about rape: A woman's "looseness of character" (ref: slut) in no way affects her right to "say no" at any time, regardless of what activites preceeded her decision that she wants not what seems pending. Only consensual activites (whether sexual *or* violent) do *not* constitute "rape". Further, I believe "rape" could be entirely non-physical...i.e. psychological rape. -- {ucbvax,decvax,ihnp4}!sun!sunny (Sunny :-> Kirsten of Sun Microsystems Inc.)