Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!mit-athena!martillo From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Israel and Muslims Message-ID: <49@mit-athena.ARPA> Date: Sat, 20-Oct-84 23:29:12 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-athe.49 Posted: Sat Oct 20 23:29:12 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 22-Oct-84 06:47:07 EDT References: <625@ubc-vision.CDN> <35@mit-athena.ARPA>, <2906@mit-eddie.UUCP>, <45@mit-athena.ARPA> Organization: MIT, Project Athena, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 27 >Martillo makes the claim that since conditions for Jews under Islamic rule >were worse than Jim Crow laws, destruction of Islam is a good thing. >Wouldn't the analagous thing to do in the USA about Jim Crow Laws is >the destruction of the USA?, or of Christianity, of >whatever-irrelevant-characteristic-of-the-population-you-like? There is a major difference. Jim Crow was not inherent in the USA. We know this because such laws have been struck down. Mistreatment of non-Muslims is part of fundamental Islamic law which no `Alim (Islamic Scholar) suggests changing nor are Muslims particularly upset about such laws. Americans have the merit that they fought a civil war over the treatment of blacks. No Muslim group has ever fought a civil war to end mistreatment of non-Muslims. Also Christian Europe had an Enlightenment which results in tolerance nowadays being considered a virtue. Most of the `Ulama (Islamic Scholars) consider tolerance a sin. Those Muslims who opted for tolerance (Ahmadis and Bahais) were declared infidel and are persecuted or slaughtered. I doubt Kolodney would call for the continuance of pre-Enlightenment Christianity if it still existed in the West.