Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!hplabs!hao!seismo!brl-tgr!abc From: abc@brl-tgr.ARPA (Brint Cooper ) Newsgroups: net.cse Subject: Re: CS students who aren't exposed to U*X Message-ID: <4559@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Wed, 12-Sep-84 10:01:22 EDT Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.4559 Posted: Wed Sep 12 10:01:22 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Sep-84 02:17:37 EDT References: <519@ames.UUCP> Organization: Ballistics Research Lab Lines: 27 >I cannot believe it. My Branch of my organization just hired three >people in a row with CS degrees (Master's as well as BS) but without any >exposure to U*X! The first had Univac expierence, the second (with a Master's) >has IBM experience, and the third, I haven't asked yet. I met a >CS masters student in LA several years ago who had not exposure to compilers, >operating systems (much less U*X), or any language other than FORTRAN or COBOL. >Is our community so closed that major portions are just gapping holes? >I know the net does not reach Japan [A friend administers several sites in >Korea]. >--eugene miya You'll be interested in: "New Computer-Science Accrediting Plan is Assailed by Liberal-Arts Educators," in The Chronicle of Higher Education, July 13, 1984, vol XXVIII #16 which describes the plans of IEEE and ACM jointly to accredit CS curricula in order to remove deficiencies of which you speak. Unfortunately, many CS departments reside in schools of Arts & Science (rather than of Engineering) within their universities and A&S tend to limit more strictly the number of courses one takes in ones major. Some incredible academic abuses are described (such as the CS curriculum that offers a BA in CS while having only 2 CS courses: FORTRAN and COBOL!). Brint