Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.PCS 1/10/84; site hocse.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!hogpc!pegasus!hocse!dls From: dls@hocse.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: rape and violence Message-ID: <170@hocse.UUCP> Date: Fri, 5-Oct-84 09:56:16 EDT Article-I.D.: hocse.170 Posted: Fri Oct 5 09:56:16 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Oct-84 03:35:59 EDT References: <3029@hlexa.UUCP>, <10400010@acf4.UUCP>, <1263@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 18 REFERENCE: <3029@hlexa.UUCP>, <10400010@acf4.UUCP>, <1263@ihuxq.UUCP> No, Ken, it's you that are aggravating. Ya, if she says nay its rape, ya, ya we hear you. But for every case where the guy actually rapes someone in a situation like this, there are probably 100s where he meekly backs off and respects her wishes. Most men, I expect, would prefer a more open and honest relationship that did not include either threats/blackmail from men or women being coy/teasing. It is just plain wrong for women to toy with men sexually. Let's stop arguing about all this nitpicking stuff(is it rape?, is she a slut?, etc) and get on to some higher level discussions.