Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxn!rlr From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.motss,net.religion Subject: Re: Gay Rights Message-ID: <1136@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Mon, 17-Sep-84 11:35:56 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxn.1136 Posted: Mon Sep 17 11:35:56 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Sep-84 04:12:28 EDT References: <174@usfbobo.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 28 > The fact is that homosexuality is a dirty, whiny, little-boy-weewee > kind of thing and the attempt to ennoble it with Civil Rights > rhetoric is a slap in the face to Martin Luther King, Theodore Herzl, > and others who have struggled for truly legitimate causes. > In your heart you know I'm right. > David Brunson Fine. Now, explain to us why you feel your positions are valid, why people's rights to have the sexuality of their own choosing, the beliefs of their own choosing, etc., are not "truly legitimate causes". (I think asking for a logical reason behind a position is the quickest way to silence those who have nothing to say.) As I've tried to say before, one fights for the rights of a group oppressed for no good reason, NOT because one wants to "liberate" a particular group, but rather because one wants to make sure that groups and individuals of any kind will no longer be oppressed for any reason. As such, the fact that people seem to have to fight for these things anew with each generation is the real "slap in the face" of the aforementioned people. (Of course, that's why social reformers of the '60s are the YUPPIES of today, who find it no longer appropriate to fight for the personal freedoms of others because they've gotten theirs---along with their Cuisinarts... ) -- "So, it was all a dream!" --Mr. Pither "No, dear, this is the dream; you're still in the cell." --his mother Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr