Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!drutx!houxe!hogpc!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!seismo!uwvax!myers From: myers@uwvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: RE: Reagan's joke Message-ID: <429@uwvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 18-Sep-84 10:56:43 EDT Article-I.D.: uwvax.429 Posted: Tue Sep 18 10:56:43 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Sep-84 19:55:35 EDT References: <479@tty3b.UUCP> <1731@sdcc6.UUCP> <5971@mcvax.UUCP>, <1843@ucbvax.ARPA> <234@digi-g.UUCP> <1957@ucbRe: RE: Reagan' Lines: 47 Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site houxm.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site uwvax.ARPA Message-ID: <429@uwvax.ARPA> Date: Tue, 18-Sep-84 10:56:43 EDT Date-Received: Thu, 20-Sep-84 08:04:46 EDT s joke Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 37 >Whatever you are trying to say, if you think that it was a case of the >big bad US invading poor Grenada, you are far off the mark. The coup in >Grenada was a Cuban/Soviet sponsored takeover, and Grenada's neighbors >were rightly worried about giving Cuba another base from which to launch >terrorist attacks against them. You bought Ronnie's disinformation hook, line, and sinker, no? The fact is that the Cuban people, and especially Castro, were very enamoured of, and friendly with Maurice Bishop, who was murdered by the counter-revolutionary militarists. Immediately after the coup, Castro bemoaned the fact that his friend Bishop had been killed and predicted that the US would take advantage of this excuse (the military takeover) to invade Grenada. Cuba refused to give any military aid to the military government even tho it was, of course, requested. The Cuban workers who were there when Bishop was killed were ordered to only defend themselves if attacked. Reagan and his cabinet clearly *lied* about several aspects of the invasion operation, and it wasn't because they didn't know what was happening. The biggest lie was that the purpose of the operation was to rescue US citizens (who were put in danger BY the invasion) -- the "liberation" of Grenada had been practiced two years before on an island off Puerto Rico. Also, we occupied the island rather than getting our people off and pulling out. Also the stories about large quantities of Cuban soldiers and the mass grave being found, both lies. The quantity and distribution of Cuban citizens was found to be exactly the same as the Cuban government had reported to Washington. Yes, the military takeover in Grenada was as reprehensible as that by f*cking Pinochet in Chile. However, this was a personal power play by those involved in the plot (in my opinion). Why would Cuba or the Soviet Union threaten the already excellent relations they had with Grenada when they *knew* that the US (I hesitate to say "we") was spoiling for a chance to eradicate creeping socialism in all its manifestations? Jeff Myers