Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: War and Death Message-ID: <1156@dciem.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Oct-84 17:57:34 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1156 Posted: Thu Oct 18 17:57:34 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Oct-84 20:50:51 EDT References: <249@we53.UUCP> Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 18 =============== The abomination that was the Roman Catholic Church at the time of the Crusades and into the Middle Ages was only a popular counterfeit of the church that was founded by Jesus and his followers. =============== As Idries Shah points out, this is generally true of any religion. The prophet may have had it right, but no-one (except possibly a few in direct contact with him) understood what he had to say. The "church" that results is always a perversion of what the prophet intended, even in those few cases where the guides (priests or whatever) try their best to follow his notions rather than their own. Jesus is a bit far away now for ANYONE to know what he might have meant, but we can be pretty sure it isn't what any of the established or the reformed churches claim. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsrgv!dciem!mmt