Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihu1h.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!ihu1h!parnass From: parnass@ihu1h.UUCP (Bob Parnass, AJ9S) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Some rather disturbing figures - (nf) Message-ID: <356@ihu1h.UUCP> Date: Tue, 25-Sep-84 23:34:26 EDT Article-I.D.: ihu1h.356 Posted: Tue Sep 25 23:34:26 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 27-Sep-84 04:28:31 EDT References: <1343@cbneb.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 33 >> /* ---------- */ >> Only %40 of the students polled thought cheating was wrong in courses; nearly >> 20% thought it was neccesary to get through courses, and get high college >> entrance marks!! >> >> I find this very frightening; not only from the standpoint of a devaluation >> of the principle of getting an *education* from school, but from the kind of >> student one is going to find on the job market, eventually. I don't know >> about you, but I don't want to hire somebody who had to copy answers from >> his friend's project to pass Operating Systems Theory! >> /* ---------- */ > ..................................... In fact, I know of a lot of people that > don't/can't do well on tests that teachers give out, yet have "learned" a lot > of the stuff presented in the class. The reason I think, those interviewed think > that way is because learning and passing tests are 2 distinct aspects of > "schooling" that one needs to be proficient at to do well in school. Some > people think it's more important to "learn" than to "pass tests". Combine this > with the high emphasis this society puts on grades, and the way some courses > are taught and this becomes frightening with respect to the school system and > not the kids ideals. > > Craig Votava > AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus Your points are very stylish, but if you ever need open heart surgery, will you select the doctor that cheated on his/her tests in med school? -- =============================================================================== Bob Parnass, Bell Telephone Laboratories - ihnp4!ihu1h!parnass - (312)979-5414