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From: ken@ihuxq.UUCP (ken perlow)
Newsgroups: net.women
Subject: Re: rape and violence
Message-ID: <1263@ihuxq.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 4-Oct-84 21:40:24 EDT
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Posted: Thu Oct  4 21:40:24 1984
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>> She demands that the man cease.  He doesn't.  He is in the middle
>> of intercourse, and (perhaps for those male animailistic reasons!)
>> opts to continue.

>> Has she been raped?  Does the man have any rights.  He is sexually
>> aroused, and "merely" because the woman has decided to stop, must he???

>> If he does not stop, then he is having sex with the women "against her
>> will" (a common definition of rape).  But she did initiate the action.
>> Because she changes her mind ar any time she wants to, does that define
>> rape?

>> I'm confused. What are the man's rights here?

>> Ross M. Greenberg

It's idiocy like this that makes net.women so aggravating these days.
What the hell do you care, Ross?  Are you planning to get yourself in
such a situation?  That's got to be it, otherwise a bright guy like
you would have added some imaginative twists, say, he sics Rex the
Wonder Dog on her, has 2nd thoughts, tries to call the dog off, but
the dog also, for "those male animalistic reasons" chooses to continue,
etc, etc.  So the answer, Ross, is:  You get a free phone call--call
your lawyer.
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