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From: psc@lzmi.UUCP
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Subject: Re: AT&T-Teletype Does it Again (5425)
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Date: Tue, 16-Oct-84 21:30:06 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 16 21:30:06 1984
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I beta-tested the 5425 just before it was announced.  I agree - it's a win.

The one thing I *don't* like about it is that the arrow keys are truely VT-100
compatible, I.E., there's no way to make them funcition only locally.  The 5420
did this exactly right: they send in vi, and they're local outside.  The TTY
folks couldn't understand why you'd want local arrow keys.

They couldn't understand why you'd want "clear to end of display" instead of
"clear entire display", either, but they provided it.  (Of course, since there
aren't any local arrow keys, you can't move the cursor and do a [local] clear
screen...)

Excellent VT-100 compatibilty.  I found a problem with VMS "SET TERM/INQUIRE"
and the "what am I" escape sequence.  So did some other testers; my copy of the
product announcement came with a note that that had been fixed.  It worked fine
with vi as TERM=vt100, and with the VMS screen editor, EDIT/EDT.  Note that
they put in the "no newline after wrap" bug *back in* - it's compatible with
the VT-100, but not the 5420!

Keyboard:  "Selectric-like" in the middle, VT-100 on the right, eight screen
labeled soft keys on top, IBM function keys (two columns of six) on the left.
Nicer feel.  The soft key menu has been improved; you can get to any set-up
menu by hitting "f1" a few times.  The editing keys on the left can be
programmed; for example, you can reprogram the DELETE LINE key to send "dd",
even if you don't have vi 3.9.

I hear there's a (~$200?) upgrade kit to turn a 5420 into a 5425.  You need the
new keyboard and a new set of ROMS.  I may swallow my pride, put local arrows
into the soft keys, and go with it.  A clap on the back for the boys at Skokie.

Now, about that Model 33 you were trying to sell me . . .
-- 
	-Paul S R Chisholm
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