Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-lymph!arndt From: arndt@lymph.DEC Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Room for everyone???? Message-ID: <3691@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Sep-84 12:54:34 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.3691 Posted: Thu Sep 20 12:54:34 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Sep-84 01:27:55 EDT Sender: kent@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 80 To Rich Brower, et al: Chickenhawks indeed!!!! Is this discussion going to turn into another piece of homogenized crap on the general topic of homosexual "lifestyles" without anyone other than myself speaking up? Despite Ken Perlow's assertion to the contrary, I very clearly said I was speaking against PROMISCUOUS behavior and invited others to examine that as a "lifestyle" issue in light of its physical (AIDS, etc.) and psychological implications. I believe I remember one, maybe two people addressing the issue as minor points in their postings. Did anyone see the recent T.V. "Silent Shame" show about child abuse? They mentioned "chickenhawks". Had a member of the Rene Guyon Society (10,000 members in the U.S.) who came right out and SAID what they say in their literature! They have a RIGHT to our kids!!!!!! WE are wrong for not letting them have them!!! They want LAWS!!! Hey, the "right" SS will march if this gets anywhere. SO OTHER THAN A FEW WEAK, "I DON'T WANT YOUR KIDS", HOW DO THE MEMBERS OF THE NET FEEL? For, against, won't march with them, not your problem (if you believe that you're crazy), might even speak out against them (Why?)??? But read from their literature: ANAL COPULATION At age 4, and sometimes sooner, both male and female children WANT (italics theirs), can easily hold after massage, and will be allowed to have a teen- ager or older male's condom-covered penis in their anus. Tiny children will be required to wear a small "finger stall" or "finger cot" (obtainable from a drug store) condom from age 4 or any earlier age that they start penetrating male and female anuses. 99% of the day there is no fecal matter in the anus. No enema is required. ORAL COPULATION At age 4, and sometimes sooner, both male and female children WANT, can easily hold, and will be allowed to have a tiny child, teenager, or older male's penis in their mouth. This will bring an end to thumbsucking. The child will at last get valuable hormones that appear in the mature male's ejaculate that have been denied children in the past. Very young, teenage and adult females will be allowed to provide sexual satisfaction with their mouths and tongues to the penis and clitoris of young children. ------------------------------ And it goes on, PENIS-VAGINA COPULATION, MASTURBATION, NUDITY ALONE WITH NO SEXUAL ACTIONS, but I'm sick of typing what I'm typing. The main purpose of the organization is to convince the public that all laws controlling nonconsensual sex must be abolished. The above are part of a promotional package handed out by the Society as a summary of the revisions to the California Penal Code proposed by them. Sections PC286 Anal Copulation, PC288a Oral Copulation, see also PC261.1 Penis-Vagina Copulation and PC288 & 288.1 Masturbation of a Child. (See THE HOMOSEXUAL NETWORK: PRIVATE LIVES AND PUBLIC POLICY, The Devin Adair Co., by Enrique T. Rueda, 1982, p.177ff.) NOW PLEASE NOTE: I am NOT trying to tar all homosexuals with the same brush. I am asking the homosexual community just what they propose to do about these people in their movement. (I know what I propose to do) Something, nothing?? It would really freak me out to see you pass over this topic as if it were like wearing women's undergarments. Question: Is this a topic that is just to early to push for acceptance by the public? I mean, after the law recognizes homosexual "rights" is this the next barrier? Is there any last barrier? Or will someone really marry a tree? Awaiting the two types of reply, Ken Arndt "Who knows what evil lerks in the hearts of homosexuals? Ken Arndt knows" "When you've got your ammo, you've got it ALL"