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From: stuart@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP (Stuart Kurtz)
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Subject: Re: Christians and Morality
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Date: Fri, 28-Sep-84 16:08:15 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep 28 16:08:15 1984
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Sorry, I'm tired of this:

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> While I have found NO indication anywhere in the Gospels that Jesus ever
> advocated violence, some of the worst atrocities in human history have
> occurred in his name.  The Crusades were brutal and bloody.  The
> Inquisition resulted in the torture and death of thousands.

Point scored, **again**.  Of course, all of us Christians share the
stain of the Nazi's and the Inquisition.  Because these people acted in
the name of Christ, it is obvious that every single Christian (we are
all alike of course) is every bit as culpable as Hitler or Torquemada.
We should all be damned for our hypocracy.  ARE YOU SATISFIED?

> There are Evangelists going around claiming that the ONLY "right to life"
> anyone should worry about (especially Christians) is the right of
> creatures who haven't even been born yet.  

Yes, ITS TRUE! just as you all believed all along: every single
Christian ever agrees 110% with Jerry Falwell.  YES! When we are
baptized we were submerged just long enough to become mindless automata!
EXCUSE US ALL TO HELL!

> ... how can they ignore the example of Christ himself?  Gandhi, the
> greatest practitioner of nonviolence in this century said he was
> profoundly influenced by the teachings of Jesus Christ on this issue.  


WHAT? A CHRISTIAN ACT LIKE CHRIST?  Thats against our beliefs!  We only
act as dear 'ole Jerry tells us the Bible says we should.  As for
Gandhi, he was just a dirty little indian.  DON'T YOU KNOW JESUS CAME
ONLY TO SAVE WHITE MEN!

> What should the Christian position be regarding War?  Does Christ
> teach that one should prepare to obliterate one's enemies and
> the rest of the world as well if you don't agree with them?

KILL GODLESS COMIES!  Thats right -- we should nuke them and dedicate
their radioactive ashes to the GLORY OF GOD!!!

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The Roman Catholic Church in America recently released a bishops letter
condemning nuclear weapons.  I guess this escaped your notice.
Main-line protestants have also spoken against war of agression and
against the use of any weapons against civilians.

Christians as a whole have been against war.  You'll recall that during
the First and Second World Wars almost all concientious objectors were
either Quakers, Mennonites or Brethern -- solid Christians all of them.

Stu