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From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer)
Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards
Subject: Re: Q: lseek returns long or int? (BSD 4
Message-ID: <4381@utzoo.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 28-Sep-84 17:50:12 EDT
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Posted: Fri Sep 28 17:50:12 1984
Date-Received: Fri, 28-Sep-84 17:50:12 EDT
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Organization: U of Toronto Zoology
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> >>This is yet another piece of gratuitous brain-damage brought to you by
> >>the morons at Berkeley...
> 
> If the above was intended to be a joke, then said so.  If it was what
> the author considered the Berkeley programmers were, it was a poor
> judgement.

I wish it was a joke.  It's not.

> An institute without mega-bucks paid programmers, can provide
> such a wide spread system, is very amazing.

If we bought 4.2BSD from a commercial outfit, with mega-bucks paid
programmers, we'd return it with an angry demand for a full refund
plus an apology.  Some of the bugs in 4.2 are shameful, to put it
mildly.  The folks here who did most of our 4.1->4.2 conversion work
have been heard to say "if we had to do it all over again, we wouldn't".

I agree it's amazing that an institute without mega-bucks paid programmers
could introduce so many bugs into so much software that used to work.

>	"Ask not what your Unix can do for you;"
>	"Ask what you can do for your Unix!"

You are in a large rectangular room.
There is a 4.2BSD tape lying on the floor.
> get Unix
I see no Unix here.
-- 
				Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
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