Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site uwmacc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!seismo!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Rules question Message-ID: <324@uwmacc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Sep-84 16:17:49 EDT Article-I.D.: uwmacc.324 Posted: Thu Sep 20 16:17:49 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Sep-84 03:31:38 EDT References: <1349@cvl.UUCP> Organization: UW Primate Center Lines: 42 > > I have not yet tried to formulate any description of a model based > > on creation in this newsgroup. Several people have noticed that, > > and have presented criticism based on that observation. > > Justified criticism in my view. Well, yes. That's why I don't object to the criticism. > The fact that evolution has a model > (several actually) makes it easier to attack. The fact that creationism > has no obvious model (Genesis, being a religious document, dosn't > count) means that win or lose evolution can do no better than breaking > even. > > > The reason I haven't given a model is that I do not > > (yet) see that it is worth it. If any such attempt will be > > ruled invalid by definition, what's the point? > > You are wasting your "breath" on those who rule out your position a > priori anyway. It may not be worth it in terms of improving your arguing > position but it would result in a fairer argument. Ok, fine. > > I'm still willing > > to give one, and to demarcate what would be considered outside > > of the realm of scientific inquiry (i.e., what the model could > > not explain). My question is, shall I try? > > Please do. I have been waiting in vain for a concrete model for some > time. Of course I will not hesitate to tear your model to ribbons if it > has any weaknesses. Destroying models is one of the main jobs of a > scientist. Fair enough. -- Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois "Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein do I delight." Psalm 119:35