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From: moriarty@fluke.UUCP (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: net.misc,net.flame
Subject: Re: Software Engineers (Hey, Kids!  Massive Rationalization!)
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Date: Wed, 10-Oct-84 11:51:31 EDT
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Posted: Wed Oct 10 11:51:31 1984
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>> 
>> 		I am NOT an ANIMAL!  I... AM... A... SOFTWARE... ENGINEER!!!
>> 
>Oh, get off it!  You're just a programmer, like everyone else
>in the world.

Yes, I used to think that "software engineer" was a term used in about the
same way as "kitchen engineer" (i.e. "A rose by another other name...");
but now I is one.... :-)

Actually, I have been wondering if there is an actual distinction between
the terms.  I've supposed that "software engineers" were a subset of
programmers; they were people who worked on designing and developing
software for computers during the construction of the computer (e.g.
Operating Systems), as opposed to another subset who design software for
already-constructed machines (e.g. application and system programmers?).
But as in any real-world terminology, there is probably quite a bit of
overlapping.... anyway, I was just wondering if the term had any specific
job characteristics.

Then again, maybe I'm just rationalizing...

Look, why don't you just go back to calling me an animal...

                        "...in an iron coffin, with spikes on the inside!"

					Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer
					John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc.
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