Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site lzmi.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!inuxc!pegasus!hogpc!pegasus!lzmi!psc From: psc@lzmi.UUCP Newsgroups: att.general,net.info-terms Subject: Re: AT&T-Teletype Does it Again (5425) Message-ID: <263@lzmi.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Oct-84 21:30:06 EDT Article-I.D.: lzmi.263 Posted: Tue Oct 16 21:30:06 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 21-Oct-84 06:56:05 EDT References: <12864@mgweed.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, Lincroft, NJ Lines: 36 I beta-tested the 5425 just before it was announced. I agree - it's a win. The one thing I *don't* like about it is that the arrow keys are truely VT-100 compatible, I.E., there's no way to make them funcition only locally. The 5420 did this exactly right: they send in vi, and they're local outside. The TTY folks couldn't understand why you'd want local arrow keys. They couldn't understand why you'd want "clear to end of display" instead of "clear entire display", either, but they provided it. (Of course, since there aren't any local arrow keys, you can't move the cursor and do a [local] clear screen...) Excellent VT-100 compatibilty. I found a problem with VMS "SET TERM/INQUIRE" and the "what am I" escape sequence. So did some other testers; my copy of the product announcement came with a note that that had been fixed. It worked fine with vi as TERM=vt100, and with the VMS screen editor, EDIT/EDT. Note that they put in the "no newline after wrap" bug *back in* - it's compatible with the VT-100, but not the 5420! Keyboard: "Selectric-like" in the middle, VT-100 on the right, eight screen labeled soft keys on top, IBM function keys (two columns of six) on the left. Nicer feel. The soft key menu has been improved; you can get to any set-up menu by hitting "f1" a few times. The editing keys on the left can be programmed; for example, you can reprogram the DELETE LINE key to send "dd", even if you don't have vi 3.9. I hear there's a (~$200?) upgrade kit to turn a 5420 into a 5425. You need the new keyboard and a new set of ROMS. I may swallow my pride, put local arrows into the soft keys, and go with it. A clap on the back for the boys at Skokie. Now, about that Model 33 you were trying to sell me . . . -- -Paul S R Chisholm ...!hogpd!pegasus!lzmi!psc The above opinions are my own, ...!cbosg!lzmi!psc and do not necessarily represent ...!ucbvax!ihnp4!lznv!psc those of anyone else.