Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-ngp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hao!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm From: kjm@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ken Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.flame,net.politics Subject: Re: Re: Reagan's joke Message-ID: <950@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Thu, 20-Sep-84 14:06:20 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.950 Posted: Thu Sep 20 14:06:20 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Sep-84 03:29:51 EDT References: <234@digi-g.UUCP> <2785@allegra.UUCP> <2706@ucbcad.UUCP> Organization: U.Texas Computation Center, Austin, Texas Lines: 43 [] >I'm not saying they're bad, I'm just saying that they're dangerous... How is it possible to consider something dangerous without inherently assuming that it is bad, at least in that aspect which may prove harmful? > It >is easy to argue without any moral propositions that the world is better off >without Soviet domination than it would be with it. Not really. Domination requires coercion. Coercion is always a violation of other people's rights; it is always a morally sensitive action. Thus it is impossible to argue about domination (or any other kind of coercion) without arguing morality as well. Of course, you can always just *ignore* morality.... (0.5 :-)) > (And also better off >under US domination, Right. Those savages out there need to be uplifted and purified and strengthened and made moral by the States, in whatever image the current Stateside government cares to impose on them. Somoza and Marcos are two pristine examples of the fruits of the States' domination policies. The world would quite simply be better off with NO domination by anyone. > although I certainly don't advocate the US taking the >same sort of role in the world that the USSR is trying to take.) > > Wayne Really? How does one kind of imperialism differ from another? Do you really believe that the rest of the world WANTS to be second-class citizens of the U.S.?! -- "Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs" Ken Montgomery ...!{ihnp4,seismo,ctvax}!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm [Usenet, when working] kjm@ut-ngp.ARPA [for Arpanauts only]