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From: forys@sunybcs.UUCP (Jeff Forys)
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Subject: RE: responsibility for the way others think?
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Date: Sun, 30-Sep-84 23:58:58 EDT
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Posted: Sun Sep 30 23:58:58 1984
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From: london@oddjob.UChicago.UUCP (David London)  Posted: Wed Sep 26 1984
> Well, Mr. Berry, perhaps that's the problem.
> Given:
> 	a) that there are things wrong in the world
> and	b) that you want to change these things (or at least try),

I would be inclined to say that the problem might lay in the "given".  Mr.
Berry may not be out to change the world (either am I).  Actually, I have
serious doubts as to whether or not it can even be done -- how can *anyone*
(or any group) define "right" and "wrong" for *everyone*!

> Put another way: It's true, you are not personally responsible for these
> peoples' upbringing. However, you are responsible for trying to change what
> they think and how they think.

What if the way they think is right and your way of thinking is wrong?  I do
not want everyone to think like me.  I will give people my views and try to
defend them but I *know* I can't change their minds.  Then what's the point?
I guess it's just to see how my ideas rank with a large group.

> That's the way progress is achieved.

I think Rosen could deal with this remark better but, since he missed it...
No, that is *not* progress.  To have everyone think the same way (and of
course, *your* way) would turn us all into machines.  We are all different
and you might want to consider that fact (or you might not -- I don't care).

So you live your way, I'll live mine.			One for the road...
And I hope you're happy, all the time.			     Jeff Forys
	- Lynyrd Skynyrd -