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From: sdyer@bbncca.ARPA (Steve Dyer)
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Subject: Re: Reply to Steve Dyer
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Date: Mon, 24-Sep-84 22:19:07 EDT
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Posted: Mon Sep 24 22:19:07 1984
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To make a comment about the phrase which set Arndt off, "chickenhawk",
I have always seen that used, not to describe child molesters, but
those who are attracted to slim, usually blond, boys just "this side"
of legal age, and those lucky enough (UGGH) to keep that look as they
get older.  Of course, I don't know whether such people "card" their
acquaintances first, but we are now discussing the gray area of the
age of consent, where reasonable people may disagree.  I am not going
to waste my time defending someone's right to a 16 year old, but at
the same time, if a 16 year old has the right to marry and have kids,
it seems logical to presume that there isn't quite as much
"victimization" present there as, say, with a younger child.  Mom and
Dad may disagree; I prefer not to take any stand at all.  Anyway, my
point is that I interpreted the phrase differently than you did.

By the way, just what IS this big national gay network you are
referring to?  And what's the "central message?"  I'd like to know just
what is happening.  Sometimes I feel life is just passing me by in
this hick town...  Where do I suscribe?

Both the National Gay Task Force and the Gay Rights National Lobby
have repeatedly made public statements disassociating themselves with
the aims of pedophile organizations.  Naturally, we are lucky if any
of them gained more than the back pages of the daily newspapers, if at
all.  Which brings us to the crux of the issue.

You seem to see the limited "P.R." ability of the gay community as
due to lack of trying.  It is much more complicated than that.
Naturally one would like the "message" to get across to as many
people as possible
-- 
/Steve Dyer
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