Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site gloria.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!seismo!rochester!rocksanne!sunybcs!gloria!colonel From: colonel@gloria.UUCP (George Sicherman) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: gunpoint Message-ID: <542@gloria.UUCP> Date: Fri, 14-Sep-84 10:31:37 EDT Article-I.D.: gloria.542 Posted: Fri Sep 14 10:31:37 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Sep-84 06:25:03 EDT References: <1743@inmet.UUCP> Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science Lines: 28 ["Labor deserves respect; property, power." --The Slavertarian Manifesto] >> Perhaps we who are libertarians are just a little more >> concerned at how tacky it is to point guns at people and force >> them to go along with us (however well-intentioned the cause). "Tacky" is hardly the word! And those of us who are not libertarians accept that in any society the people with guns and followers will force us to go along with them. When central goverment relinquishes or loses this power, gangs assume it. "Well, David," said he, "since he couldnae be rid of the loyal commons by fair means, he swore he would be rid of them by foul. Ardshiel was to starve; that was the thing he aimed at. And since them that fed him in his exile wouldnae be bought out--right or wrong, he would drive them out. Therefore he sent for lawyers and papers, and red-coats to stand at his back. And the kindly folk of that country must all pack and tramp, every father's son out of his father's house, and out of the place where he was bred and fed, and played when he was a callant. And who are to succeed them? Bare-leggit beggars! King George is to whistle for his rents; he maun dow with less; he can spread his butter thinner: what cares Red Colin?" R. L. Stevenson, _Kidnapped_ (1886) -- Col. G. L. Sicherman ...seismo!rochester!rocksanne!rocksvax!sunybcs!gloria!colonel