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From: ken@qantel.UUCP (Ken Nichols@ex6193)
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Subject: Re: Re: Response to Tim Maroney - The character of God. (very long)
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Date: Wed, 17-Oct-84 20:54:40 EDT
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Mike writes:

> Ken Nichols said an awful lot of things, some of them 
> catching weaknesses in "EVEN IF I DID BELIEVE..." article that
> I saw myself. Some of the better points remained unopposed:
> "I can not explain how I know, but I do". 
> That means that you don't.

No, I meant exactly as I said.  I know I'm on the write path, but I can't show
you why.  Why would you take my word for it (if I had factual evidence) if you 
won't take God's word for it? ('it' = christianity)  Certainly God is much 
greater than I.

> One sentence above all characterizes the value of Ken's arguments about
> God's perfection:
> 
>>         God loves you, and desires to commune with you.  But he can only do
>> so if you confess your sin and relinquish your pride in yourself for the joy
>> of the Christian life.
> 
> He just can not fulfill his desire to commune, you know. Not unless
> you give him a hand. 

No, not unless you take the hand He's is extending toward you.  You just 
except the provisions He's already made.  Confessing your sin would do nothing
unless God forgave that sin because of Christ's sacrifice.  Nothing we do will
help us to reach God, because He's already done it all.

> There probably will be a 600-line clarification. 

I don't think I can write that much any more.  That was alot of work, you know.

> We'll see. Tim Maroney did such a good job that it is hard to
> dispose of him in a hurry. 
>                        Mike Cherepov

Tim Maroney did a good job at proving how wise man thinks he is, when he is
really a fool.  I know someone who will (literaly) dispose of him at the
proper time, that's not my job.

"...holding forth the                             Ken Nichols
 word of life..." Phil. 2:16                      ...!ucbvax!dual!qantel!ken
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