Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site digi-g.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!digi-g!dan From: dan@digi-g.UUCP (Dan Messinger) Newsgroups: net.auto,net.med,net.consumers Subject: Re: shoulder belt Message-ID: <263@digi-g.UUCP> Date: Mon, 1-Oct-84 11:05:56 EDT Article-I.D.: digi-g.263 Posted: Mon Oct 1 11:05:56 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Oct-84 19:21:49 EDT References: <4924@brl-tgr.ARPA> Organization: DigiGraphic Systems Corp., Mpls. MN Lines: 29 >Another solution, which can be a pain in two door cars like the >Mustang, is to install a clip to hold the belt lower than the >strangle position. You already stated part of the reason I didn't put in a clip to hold the belt in a better place. What a pain! A person would have to crawl though the belts to get into the back seat. Also, while the clips may hold the belt in a confortable position to riding, I fear that the stress on inpact would break the clip, allowing the belt to move back to my wife's throat. (Keeping her chest from hitting the stearing wheel isn't real important if her head goes though the windshield anyways ...) There isn't anything structural near the edge of the front seat to secure the clip to, either. (BTW, the original shoulder belt was fine for me at 5'10", but not for people around 5'0"). And regarding the cars that have those clips factory installed. I have seen may of them broken through every day tugging while getting into and out of the seatbelts (or going though them to get to the back seat of a two-door). I would not trust those little clips to hold the belt in a safe place during an accident. In most cars, however, the clips are only used to hold the belt in a convenient place while the belt is not in use, and have little or no effect on the placement of the belt when it is in use. And yes, I am a firm believer in seatbelts. Wouldn't drive around the block without one (as long as it doesn't look like a noose :-) ). Dan Messinger ihnp4!umn-cs!digi-g!dan