Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gitpyr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!gatech!gitpyr!owens From: owens@gitpyr.UUCP (Gerald Owens) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Re*2: final argument against Message-ID: <251@gitpyr.UUCP> Date: Fri, 28-Sep-84 17:14:54 EDT Article-I.D.: gitpyr.251 Posted: Fri Sep 28 17:14:54 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Sep-84 10:21:35 EDT References: <929@ut-ngp.UUCP> <1256@ritcv.UUCP>, <936@ut-ngp.UUCP>, <1263@ritcv.UUCP> <1242@pucc-h> Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Lines: 49 > Uh, gentlemen... > > I am really getting tired of seeing this arguement of 'the woman accepts the > man's advances, ergo, she should accept responsibility.' Contraception is a > two way street, and there are methods, both temporary and permanent, that > a man can use. > >> > So, if you are so bloody worried about the woman getting pregnant, why don't > *you* do something about it!!!! > > > > > Laurie Sefton > {allegra,harpo,ihnp4,}pur-ee!pucc-k!afo Bravo and amen! It takes TWO to make a baby, so BOTH should take the responsability for contraception. I recently looked through a history of contraception, and I noted that the original impetus for the pill was the realization that the woman would have bourne the greater share of the burdens of the pregnancy than the man (after all, you can tell who the mother is by LOOKING. Who the father is, is a bit harder to determine. And if we want to maintain the illusion of justice, we certainly can't accuse a man of being the father based >>SOLELY<< on the testimony of ONE witness, who ALSO happens to be one of the interested parties. (ditto for rape)). Thus, it was decided that the woman would have the greater "incentive" to use contraceptive methods. In fact, before the pill, there was a special dual pill that both the woman and man had to take in order to get full protection. No woman, of course, could have any assurance that the guy propositioning her actually was taking his pills, since if a pregnancy occurred, HE could say (if caught), that SHE hadn't taken her pill! Since I am rather concientious in taking medicines, I wouldn't mind a male contraceptive. Apparently, what is holding the research up is the fear that any male contraceptive of a chemical or biological kind would affect the man's libido and/or virility. And since we were (and still are) in a male-dominated society, that pretty much explains the lack of such research :-(. It's a shame, since the pill is so effective, any extra protection from the male side would only cut the margin for error down even further, and also cut down on the number of abortions gotten because of "unwanted" children. Gerald Owens Owens@Gatech.