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From: dubois@uwmacc.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Rules question
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Date: Thu, 20-Sep-84 16:17:49 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep 20 16:17:49 1984
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> > I have not yet tried to formulate any description of a model based
> > on creation in this newsgroup.  Several people have noticed that,
> > and have presented criticism based on that observation.
> 
> Justified criticism in my view.

Well, yes.  That's why I don't object to the criticism.

>                                  The fact that evolution has a model
> (several actually) makes it easier to attack.  The fact that creationism
> has no obvious model (Genesis, being a religious document, dosn't
> count) means that win or lose evolution can do no better than breaking
> even.
> 
> > The reason I haven't given a model is that I do not
> > (yet) see that it is worth it.  If any such attempt will be
> > ruled invalid by definition, what's the point?
> 
> You are wasting your "breath" on those who rule out your position a
> priori anyway. It may not be worth it in terms of improving your arguing
> position but it would result in a fairer argument.

Ok, fine.

> > I'm still willing
> > to give one, and to demarcate what would be considered outside
> > of the realm of scientific inquiry (i.e., what the model could
> > not explain).  My question is, shall I try?
> 
> Please do. I have been waiting in vain for a concrete model for some
> time. Of course I will not hesitate to tear your model to ribbons if it
> has any weaknesses. Destroying models is one of the main jobs of a
> scientist.

Fair enough.
-- 
Paul DuBois		{allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois

"Make me to go in the path of thy commandments; for therein
do I delight."
				Psalm 119:35