Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site digi-g.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!ihnp4!stolaf!umn-cs!digi-g!brian From: brian@digi-g.UUCP (Mr. Bozo) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Torek on Rosen on Torek on Skinner Message-ID: <293@digi-g.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Oct-84 17:24:05 EDT Article-I.D.: digi-g.293 Posted: Wed Oct 10 17:24:05 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 13-Oct-84 04:39:13 EDT References: <376@wucs.UUCP> <> Reply-To: brian@digi-g.UUCP (brian) Distribution: net Organization: DigiGraphic Systems Corp., Mpls. MN Lines: 11 Summary: Hmmm, saying that God causes our deterministic brain to have free will reminds me of the old German idea that "You don't really think; a little man in your head is doing the REAL thinking". I would like to see proof of this (the former, not the latter). Now a question for the people still on Earth; how is a deterministic brain different from a non-deterministic brain, if it is impossible to test any particular decision more than once? Since we can't reverse the universe back in time to make the decision more than once, we can never know if decisions can be made independently, given an identical 'brain state'. Also, given this premise, what is the DIFFERENCE between them? "Determinism - I wouldn't have it any other way."