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From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%UCB)
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Subject: Re: Saint DuBois, Sinner Kulawiec
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Date: Fri, 5-Oct-84 23:47:19 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct  5 23:47:19 1984
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> 
> >	When the day comes that I die, and find myself standing before some
> >	cosmic entity in judgement, I hope to be able to deliver my
> >	complaint(s) in person...if then, I'm relegated to the pits, well,
> >	at least my self-respect and integrity will be intact.
> 
> How would you feel if you were God, and you call two people to judgement:  One
> has spent his life making people happier, raising a family and teaching his
> children well, going out of his way to help others.  The second came in
> sniveling with complaints about the way you run things....

Hmmm... I haven't been G*d, so I don't know how I would feel.  However, it
seems to me that you are assuming that for someone to be good (the first
person) they must be Christian (or at least Judeo-Christian).  I spend my
life trying to make people happier and helping my fellow human beings and
being generally more good and loving and otherwise obedient to the principles
of Christianity then many Christians even try to be, but I don't believe in
the Jewish or Christian G*d.  Now, if I were the first person and Jerry
Falwell was the second (after all, he complains about homosexuals, hates
the Russians, etc.), would you, if you were G*d, be nice to me or him?

> 
> >If I wreck my health or kill myself at an early age, what possible concern
> >is that of yours?  If I drink, or smoke, or get high, or have sex
> >(yes, please), or anything else that falls into your category of "self-
> >destructive", why should YOU worry about it?
> 
> Why?  Perhaps some of us CARE about you.  We are told to love one another as
> we love ourselves.  There's not much reason beyond that.
> 

You can love me all you want, but please don't smother me.  I think it
is perfectly acceptable for me to live with a woman to whom I am not
married.  You may think that is immoral.  If you care about me, you
might, once or twice, try and convince me I was wrong, but if you tried
to force me to stop (by passing laws or whatever), I would consider
that intolerable.  G*d gave me free will -- can't you at least be as
generous?

		Ken Arnold