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From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Israel and Muslims
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Date: Sat, 20-Oct-84 23:29:12 EDT
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Posted: Sat Oct 20 23:29:12 1984
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>Martillo makes the claim that since conditions for Jews under Islamic rule 
>were worse than Jim Crow laws, destruction of Islam is a good thing.

>Wouldn't the analagous thing to do in the USA about Jim Crow Laws is
>the destruction of the USA?, or of Christianity, of
>whatever-irrelevant-characteristic-of-the-population-you-like?

There  is a major difference.  Jim Crow was not inherent in the USA.  We
know this because such laws have  been  struck  down.   Mistreatment  of
non-Muslims  is  part of fundamental Islamic law which no `Alim (Islamic
Scholar) suggests changing nor are Muslims particularly upset about such
laws.   Americans  have  the merit that they fought a civil war over the
treatment of blacks.  No Muslim group has ever fought a civil war to end
mistreatment of non-Muslims.

Also  Christian  Europe  had an Enlightenment which results in tolerance
nowadays being  considered  a  virtue.   Most  of  the  `Ulama  (Islamic
Scholars)  consider  tolerance  a  sin.   Those  Muslims  who  opted for
tolerance (Ahmadis and Bahais) were declared infidel and are  persecuted
or slaughtered.  

I  doubt  Kolodney  would  call for the continuance of pre-Enlightenment
Christianity if it still existed in the West.