Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!ward From: ward@hao.UUCP (Mike Ward) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: creationism topics Message-ID: <1201@hao.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Oct-84 16:11:34 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1201 Posted: Tue Oct 9 16:11:34 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Oct-84 08:22:02 EDT References: <32500003@uiucdcsb.UUCP> <27700004@uicsl.UUCP> <1191@hao.UUCP> <1407@qubix.UUCP> Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 31 > > So evolutionists can have things "beyond the realm of science" but > creationists can't? That's hypocritical cheating! Are we speaking the same language? (No...of course not. How foolish of me.) Both evolutionists and creationists are allowed to have things beyond the realm of science. The only thing that's not allowed is for anyone to have scientific theories that lie beyond the realm of science. Now, please pay attention: it's not me that disallows this, but the language. The English language. If it's beyond the realm of science, then it's not within the realm of science. Now, what on Earth does this have to do with evolution? The disciplines of evolution and cosmology are as distinct as any in science. Cosmology is the one that explores the edges of the realm of science. Evolution concerns itself with things of the Earth. The Earth is safely within the realm of science. I keep saying it: Creationism is nothing less than an attack on science itself. -- Michael Ward, NCAR/SCD UUCP: {hplabs,nbires,brl-bmd,seismo,menlo70,stcvax}!hao!ward ARPA: hplabs!hao!sa!ward@Berkeley BELL: 303-497-1252 USPS: POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307