Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site qantel.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!amd!dual!qantel!ken From: ken@qantel.UUCP (Ken Nichols@ex6193) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: Response to Tim Maroney - The character of God. (very long) Message-ID: <243@qantel.UUCP> Date: Wed, 17-Oct-84 20:54:40 EDT Article-I.D.: qantel.243 Posted: Wed Oct 17 20:54:40 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Oct-84 05:57:57 EDT References: <239@qantel.UUCP> <1094@ihuxm.UUCP> Organization: MDS Qantel, Hayward, CA Lines: 45 (+-+-+-+-+) Mike writes: > Ken Nichols said an awful lot of things, some of them > catching weaknesses in "EVEN IF I DID BELIEVE..." article that > I saw myself. Some of the better points remained unopposed: > "I can not explain how I know, but I do". > That means that you don't. No, I meant exactly as I said. I know I'm on the write path, but I can't show you why. Why would you take my word for it (if I had factual evidence) if you won't take God's word for it? ('it' = christianity) Certainly God is much greater than I. > One sentence above all characterizes the value of Ken's arguments about > God's perfection: > >> God loves you, and desires to commune with you. But he can only do >> so if you confess your sin and relinquish your pride in yourself for the joy >> of the Christian life. > > He just can not fulfill his desire to commune, you know. Not unless > you give him a hand. No, not unless you take the hand He's is extending toward you. You just except the provisions He's already made. Confessing your sin would do nothing unless God forgave that sin because of Christ's sacrifice. Nothing we do will help us to reach God, because He's already done it all. > There probably will be a 600-line clarification. I don't think I can write that much any more. That was alot of work, you know. > We'll see. Tim Maroney did such a good job that it is hard to > dispose of him in a hurry. > Mike Cherepov Tim Maroney did a good job at proving how wise man thinks he is, when he is really a fool. I know someone who will (literaly) dispose of him at the proper time, that's not my job. "...holding forth the Ken Nichols word of life..." Phil. 2:16 ...!ucbvax!dual!qantel!ken ----------