Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 6/7/83; site hao.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!trwrba!cepu!hao!ward From: ward@hao.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Apple keeps the elevator Message-ID: <1153@hao.UUCP> Date: Wed, 19-Sep-84 11:30:12 EDT Article-I.D.: hao.1153 Posted: Wed Sep 19 11:30:12 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 25-Sep-84 07:22:31 EDT Organization: High Altitude Obs./NCAR, Boulder CO Lines: 46 [and gives its customers the shaft] Hooray for Mike Conley for telling it like it is. Except that he was a little to kind. He forgot to mention that if we had all waited just a few months we could have saved ourselves some big bucks. Here's a little arithmetic: right now I can buy a 128K Mac for $2,000. That's a $500 discount from list. Apple has dropped the price (effective someday) by $300. That means we can expect to see the 128K Mac (the Tiny Mac?) (The inadequate Mac?) selling for $1700. Add a thousand to that and you get $2700. That's what I expect to see the Fat Mac selling for real soon now. That's $200 more than I paid for my Meager Mac. That's a hell of a lot of depreciation to see in just a few months, just a few months after the product is released. Just think how Apple would be doing right now if everybody had been smart and played it safe. If everybody had realized the truth - that Apple is just another greedy, screw the customer corporation. (Even IBM does better - they put the screws to their business partners. Apple does it to their custumers) If everbody had played wait and see (like the folks who Apple is now rewarding), Apple would be in deep trouble right now. Considering that, before the Mac, the only thing decent thing they produced was little more than a toy, and that they have produced failure after failure - if the Mac had not sold well that company would now be worth zip! And we who took Apple on faith (the software will be out next month, next month, next month), who believed that Apple was a little different have been thanked in a very nice manner: "You've been stupid enough to cough up the bucks so far - so why not be real stupid and cough up some more". Damn you Steve Jobs. P.S. I've called Apple ((408) 996-1010), have you? I was rude. P.P.S. What do you think of a guy who starts out robbing the phone company and ends up robbing his customers? P.P.P.S. Is anybody going to be stupid enough to buy a Fat Mac at $3100? -- Michael Ward, NCAR/SCD UUCP: {hplabs,nbires,brl-bmd,seismo,menlo70,stcvax}!hao!ward ARPA: hplabs!hao!sa!ward@Berkeley BELL: 303-497-1252 USPS: POB 3000, Boulder, CO 80307