Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!akgua!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!alan From: alan@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Alan Algustyniak) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Context of the Debate Message-ID: <1350@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Thu, 27-Sep-84 18:25:46 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.1350 Posted: Thu Sep 27 18:25:46 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 29-Sep-84 10:14:40 EDT References: <1052@ihuxm.UUCP> <1866@ucbvax.ARPA><1316@sdcrdcf.UUCP> <510@tty3b.UUCP> Reply-To: alan@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Alan Algustyniak) Organization: System Development Corp. R+D, Santa Monica Lines: 27 Summary: >Just who the hell are you to say who is "probably the best ruler >Iran ever had," anyway? > >Mike Kelly Jeesh, Mike, why the heat? You don't need a license and written approval to say who is..etc. And, anyway, i never SAID who is..etc. The reason i made my stmt to Sophie is that from what i have learned about the Shah he was doing what i consider to be about the most important things an Iranian leader could do. He was bringing Iran into the 20th century. He allowed dancing and movies, things which you cannot do under the present religious regime. He also allowed religious freedom, or at least a lot more than is allowed in the typical Islamic state today. He tried to force his people to be tolerant of the beliefs of others and to face the realities of the world today. This, i guess, was his downfall, not the atrocities he was responsible for. The atorcities are being committed in Iran today and the leader is loved. I don't really think it's a good idea to open a big can of worms getting into it about socio-centricity. I thought it was fairly clear what i was trying to say in my stmt to Sophie. I'm surprised you got so hot under the collar and blasted me about it. sdcrdcf!alan