Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ritcv.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!ritcv!spw2562 From: spw2562@ritcv.UUCP () Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: re: tent pitching, et al Message-ID: <1292@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 4-Oct-84 14:44:37 EDT Article-I.D.: ritcv.1292 Posted: Thu Oct 4 14:44:37 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Oct-84 02:03:06 EDT Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY Lines: 20 >>The tent allegory is incomplete. The tent (fetus) has been pitched *with* >>permission. Remember, there had to be intercourse between consenting >>people in order for the fetus to get there... >> >> Steve Wolf > >It is possible to have intercourse and at the same time deliberately >attempt to prevent conception; in fact these attempts (when the methods >are used correctly) work most of the time. Thus it is fallacious to >argue that consent to intercourse is necessarily consent to pregnancy, >because the second is not a necessary result of the first. The very >existence and use of contraception indicates that people consent to >intercourse *without* consenting to pregnancy. Right. They work *most* of the time. The individuals involved should recognize that and realize that even with birth control there is a risk of pregnancy. You invite me to pitch a tent, and then put up electric barbed wire fences to keep me out. If I get in anyways, am I there without your consent?