Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site laidbak.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxj!cbosgd!ihnp4!laidbak!kin From: kin@laidbak.UUCP (Kin Wong) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: re: Re:big brother Message-ID: <220@laidbak.UUCP> Date: Mon, 24-Sep-84 18:52:25 EDT Article-I.D.: laidbak.220 Posted: Mon Sep 24 18:52:25 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 26-Sep-84 07:36:44 EDT Organization: LAI, Westmont, IL Lines: 40 >Gee, Kin. Seems like some things are reasonable to forbid because we find them >offensive but others aren't. hmm. > >Now, before we hear a crusade against the government legislating morality, would >someone name a single law that isn't either > > a: based on morality of some form (drinking ages, rape, . . . ) > That is, find a law that isn't an imposition of beliefs. > > b: an arbitrary standard (drive on right hand side of the road, etc.) > That is, imposing the belief that there should be a standard > Gee, Rick. What about laws that give you the freedom of expression and freedom of worship? In what way are you imposed by having the freedom to choose your own religion? Compare law A: "Everyone has the freedom of worship" and law B:"Everyone must follow the teachings of (your favorite prohpet)", which one is doing the imposing? In what way are you "imposed" by law A? Secondly, in cases where there is a consensus, then you can't really say it is an imposition, for you can't impose morals on people who already accept them (e.g. you can't impose Christian beliefs (whatever they are )on christians, any more than you can impose atheistic beliefs(whatever they are) on atheists) Thirdly, do you consider rules set up to maintain some system "moral imposition"?(e.g driving rules)? In what way are you morally imposed when you play any game that have any rules? can you have a system or even a game without rules? Finally, even if some (or many) laws are passed on moral grounds, that does not mean we can passed some laws just because some people can find moral grounds for them. Some people find the eating of pork or beef morally offensive, others, the use of contraceptives, and still others, the non-belief in God; are you suggesting that based on moral grounds we should passed laws prohibiting the eating of some pork, beef, etc? kin wong (..ihnp4!iwlc8!klw)