Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site homxa.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!houxz!houxm!homxa!dcs From: dcs@homxa.UUCP (D.SIMEN) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Re: goyim Message-ID: <229@homxa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Jun-84 09:31:36 EDT Article-I.D.: homxa.229 Posted: Mon Jun 4 09:31:36 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 6-Jun-84 00:55:13 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 14 Nancy Miller writes: > I am given to understand, from my own upbringing, that shiker & shikse > are the terms meant to be derogatory for goyim and goyes (masculine > and feminine). Nice try, but not quite. In fact, "shigtse" or "shiktse" (often shortened to "shikse" *is* a feminine term for non-Jew (and *is* derogatory, although its use among Americans seems to be neutral, probably because they don't know the word's origins), but "shiker" (also spelled "shikker" or "shikkur" or "shikur") means "drunk" or "drunkard". Since "shigste" has appeared on the net, I'll spill the beans and give the masculine form: "sheigets" (in the Yidish* pronunciation). David ben Mord'kai Simen ...!homxa!dcs *which everyone knows is hopelessly vulgar.