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/***** ea:net.philosophy / ihuxq!ken /  6:38 pm  Jun 15, 1984 */
Are you calling the Nazis socialists????  They may have called
themselves socialists, but they were, of course, fascists, and
habitual liars at that.  I'm trying to resist the temptation
to say "THINK LOGICALLY FERCHRISSAKES!"  But I can't.
-- 
ken perlow
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I am. I find two definitions of Fascism in the dictionary, both of which
indicate a belief in a strong, centralized dictatorship. The closest either
one of them comes to making a Fascist Socialism self-contradictory is
"stands for a ... severe economic and social regimentation ... ." This
*does not* indicate that a fascist government couldn't be socialist, but
it *does* indicate that a fascist government couldn't live with a free
enterprise system (not that I'm saying it's impossible, mind you).

Fascism is a form of *government*, and socialism a form for an *economy*.
You can have a Republican Socialism (where America appears to be drifting),
a Fascist Socialism (where the USSR seems to be drifting), you can even
have a Libertarian Socialism.

Whether or not the National Socialists are socialists: They called
themselves socialists, and the German government apparently controlled the
means of production, and ran it "for the good of the people" (isn't that
what socialism's all about?). If these statements are true, then the Nazis
were socialists; if they are false, then the Nazis aren't socialists.
Someone want to let me know how the Nazis really behaved about property?