Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!sdcrdcf!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!ucbvax!faustus From: faustus@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: The Tim Maroney Case Message-ID: <976@ucbvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 5-Jun-84 05:58:53 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.976 Posted: Tue Jun 5 05:58:53 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 7-Jun-84 19:26:58 EDT References: <391@houxu.UUCP> Organization: U.C. Berkeley Lines: 23 I wouldn't say that the net is all that fragile, considering how large and diffuse it is, but certainly it is clear that if very much of the sort of stuff that went on at UNC happens at other places, it may very well become an unpleasant place. What I want to know is whether this is just an isolated case, or whether people have heard reports of other sites practicing the same sort of censorship. It seems as though there are a lot of positions that a management could take on the net -- perhaps the people in charge are sympathetic and read the news themselves, in which case things are in good shape, or perhaps (as seems to be the case at Berkeley) they just don't care what happens on the net, or perhaps (as at UNC) they take an active and malevolent interest in what goes on. It may be that the problems at UNC were just a result of the personalities involved, or the provincialism of the University (which I know nothing about) -- I can easily see how somebody with a short enough patience and tolerance could be inclined to persecute someone like Tim, who very vocally insists upon his rights. If this is in fact just an isolated case, then I hope it stays that way, but if it is just one of many such cases, then we have more cause to worry... Wayne