Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site proper.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!dual!proper!gam From: gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) Newsgroups: net.cycle Subject: Re: Motor Vehicle flame - (nf) Message-ID: <1352@proper.UUCP> Date: Tue, 12-Jun-84 23:55:22 EDT Article-I.D.: proper.1352 Posted: Tue Jun 12 23:55:22 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 16-Jun-84 00:43:24 EDT References: <228@ism780.UUCP>, <2156@saturn.UUCP> Organization: Proper UNIX, Oakland, CA Lines: 26 Keywords: DMV,MSF,licensing,testing # I applied for an recieved my class 4 (motorcycle) license in March of this year. While I found the written test actually challenging (I failed the first try), the riding test was appallingly simple: ride inside two concentric circles, ride in a weaving pattern around some cones, and show you know how to shift. I passed and was stunned that it was so easy. I am VERY glad to have taken the MSF's rider training course, because without it, despite my license, I do not feel I would have been adequately prepared to ride in the streets and freeways of California (and live). (The DMV office from which I got my license is in Santa Clara, CA). It is also disturbing that one can get a class 4 license without knowing what any of the traffic laws or right-of-way rules are; the DMV's testing procedures do not cover those laws, and you are not required to apply for a class 3 (regular auto) license to get the class 4. (I think ALL licensees -- including car drivers -- should be required to pass BOTH tests!) [ do other states also classify motorcycle license as `class 4' and regular auto license as `class 3'? excuse my redunancies above if such classifications are universal ]