Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site pthya.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!hpda!fortune!amd70!dual!pthya!kdq From: kdq@pthya.UUCP ( Kip Quackenbush) Newsgroups: net.sport.baseball Subject: Softball Rule Interpretation Message-ID: <128@pthya.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Jun-84 13:04:51 EDT Article-I.D.: pthya.128 Posted: Mon Jun 4 13:04:51 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 7-Jun-84 19:32:53 EDT Organization: Pacific Bell, Hayward CA Lines: 35 I was involved in a game this weekend where the ground rules were established before the game. One of the rules was that a runner could lead off AFTER the ball had crossed the plate, yet no steals were allowed. It was a slowpitch game. Situation: Runners at first and third, no outs. Runner at first takes a lead after the pitch crosses the plate. Catcher throws the ball to first, runner at third breaks for home, and scores. Was the ball in play once the catcher decided to throw to first? Could the runner at third break for home? Because the game was not sanctioned by any high authority of softball, I argued that the ball should be considered in play if the catcher decides to pick off the runner at first, thus, the man on third can try to score if he wants. What would have happened if the man on first HAD been picked off. The umps ruled in favor of the 'live' ball. What do you think? Post Script-- I thought it was stupid to allow leadoffs to begin with -- Kip Quackenbush pthya!kdq {ihnp4,ucbvax,cbosgd,decwrl,amd70,fortune,zehntel}!dual!pthya!kdq Pacific Bell, San Francisco, California