Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site uokvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uokvax!lmaher From: lmaher@uokvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: participative democracy - (nf) Message-ID: <5000089@uokvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 8-Jun-84 22:34:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uokvax.5000089 Posted: Fri Jun 8 22:34:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 11-Jun-84 00:21:01 EDT References: <2553@harpo.UUCP> Lines: 32 Nf-ID: #R:harpo:-255300:uokvax:5000089:000:1292 Nf-From: uokvax!lmaher Jun 8 21:34:00 1984 #R:harpo:-255300:uokvax:5000089:000:1292 uokvax!lmaher Jun 8 21:34:00 1984 This is a point made by Schell in _The Fate of the Earth_, who claims that Sovereignty, not Nuclear Weapons, is the chief component of nuclear terror (It does no good to get rid of Nuclear Weapons, because it's easy to build more; you must get rid of the nation state system.) In my class on International Relations Simulations we discussed three main systems: The Balance of Power (more properly speaking, the Distribution of Power), Collective Security (e.g. a U.N. with a monopoly on armed force), and World Government. The last two are exceedingly impractical - I can give details if there's enough interest for me to dig out my notes. By the way, as part of the class we split up into numerous countries, with 3-5 people per country acting as Decision Makers (including a Moral Decision Maker to represent the conscience of the populace), and conducted trade, foreign policy, etc. for 6 weeks. Or so was the plan. Details of what actually occurred, on request. Likewise Rules summary (very simple, so that details would not obscure the points of concern). Carl (formerly uok!crigney) allegra!{nbires convex ut-ngp}\ >!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher ihnp4!{ut-sally convex ut-ngp}/ OR {allegra ihnp4}!duke!uok!uokvax!lmaher