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From: nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Carrot murder
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Date: Tue, 19-Jun-84 20:52:32 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jun 19 20:52:32 1984
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>	It is not murder to kill a carrot or an unborn child because neither
>	is intelligent (what is YOUR definition of intelligence) but because
>	you don't WANT it to be murder in the case of the child.  After all,
>	animals are intelligent and we don't "murder"them, do we?  Or are you
>	really some kind of way out animal groupie and you're really trying to
>	build a case for not harming animals?

Animals, with the exception perhaps of some monkey, dolphins, and
whales, aren't intelligent.  Therefore you can't murder them.  Perhaps
killing a Dolphin is murder; the issue is unclear.

>	Intelligence, non intelligence = murder non murder  doesn't equate.
>	Is that the way they teach you to think in that place?  Or rather is
>	that what they teach you to think?

Murder has nothing to do with the victim being a member of the species
Homo Sapient.  If we were to discover, for example, that there are
intelligent aliens living on Mars, wouldn't it be murder to unfairly and
purposely kill a Martian?  I say yes!  What do these hypothetical
Martians and Homo Sapients have in common that makes killing one of
either class murder?  Intelligence.

And I don't know about you -- you have created some of the most
indecipherable sentences I have yet seen -- but I can think for myself
(I think).
-- 
				-Doug Alan
				 mit-eddie!nessus
				 Nessus@MIT-MC

				"What does 'I' mean"?