Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekchips.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekchips!wm From: wm@tekchips.UUCP (Wm Leler) Newsgroups: net.arch,net.followup,net.micro Subject: Re: AT&T vs. the toolkit approach Message-ID: <861@tekchips.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-Jun-84 19:52:57 EDT Article-I.D.: tekchips.861 Posted: Mon Jun 11 19:52:57 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 12-Jun-84 04:58:58 EDT References: <283@stcvax.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 20 I disagree that most of the "new" computer users out there that the 3B is aimed at won't be interested in the famous UNIX tools. Look at all the PC software out there that people are using -- word processors, spread sheets, graphics and such. And now what are people looking at doing? Why, connecting them all together (like *tools*), of course. UNIX *is* tools. Without the tools, it is not really that good an operating system. It is old, flabby, has a terrible user interface and funny command names. The first "program" I wrote on UNIX was "written" in awk, sed, and nroff (no C). It was about 6 pages, took me 3 days to write (including learning how to use UNIX), and replaced a fortran program that was 3 inches thick. AT&T seems to be doing a good job of shooting themselves in the foot. The question is, AT&T is so big, how many times can they shoot themselves before they get hurt? Wm Leler