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From: chrisp@oliven.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: MOTOSs: People too?
Message-ID: <149@oliven.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 7-Jun-84 15:39:14 EDT
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Posted: Thu Jun  7 15:39:14 1984
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I thought that it was fairly clear that the principle question is that of
self-esteem. Everything that has been posted on this one, including the
original, has talked about one or another aspect of how one mis-relates
or dis-relates to a MOTOS and/or a MOTSS. And all of this mis- and dis-
relating all reduces to variations on the theme of "I don't think much
of myself, so there is something wrong ( or threatening, etc. ) with you."
The most extreme case is exemplified by the macho trip in which anyone
else is treated as an animate object.

It has been my experience that this problem is not restricted to either
sex. But men tend to show it in one set of ways and women tend to show
it in a different set of ways. These sets seem to be culturally
determined for either sex.

I have been fortunate enough to find close, open relationships with both
men and women. It has generally been a matter of how well the other person
though of him/her self. I have found it very difficult (damn near impossible
really) to do this with a MOTOS to whom I was strongly attracted sexually.
The problem is clearly (to me) one of a shortage of self assurance in this
circumstance. But I'm working on it.

					Chris Prael