Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!mit-eddie!rh From: rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Lifespring, Sterling, est, etc. Message-ID: <2018@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Sun, 3-Jun-84 06:09:38 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.2018 Posted: Sun Jun 3 06:09:38 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Jun-84 19:47:18 EDT References: <997@hao.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 23 I think the main point of all these things is like what Greg Woods mentioned: the people were basket cases. I'm not convinced that I can pay someone $$ and they'll reveal to me the secrets of being a successful human being. The people who were basket cases were so wretchedly unhappy that since they've been brought to the level of happiness of most people, they think it's great. I don't think that these organizations can tell me anything I don't know. If I'm not as happy as I could be (and I'm not...), it's more due to laziness on my part than to a basic inability to function that can be cured in a week. Several years ago, I read a book titled "Inside est." (Sorry, I don't remember who wrote it, but he had gone through the course.) I would recommend it for anyone who is considering any of these activities. At the time, I was considering doing something like it (I was about 19 at the time). Part of my problem was that I couldn't believe that I would end up crying or vomiting just because some jerk stood up on stage and told me that my life was screwed up. (Apparently, this sort of thing happens a lot at est seminars.) Then I realized that the only people who would be helped by est would be people who were quite a bit less happy and assertive than myself, that I would just basically waste my time and money. I would tend to think the same thing about the other organizations of this ilk. -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh