Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!fortune!grw From: grw@fortune.UUCP (Glenn Wichman) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.misc Subject: Re: Hypocrisy Message-ID: <3574@fortune.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-Jun-84 18:06:48 EDT Article-I.D.: fortune.3574 Posted: Mon Jun 11 18:06:48 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 12-Jun-84 01:37:30 EDT References: <1008@ihuxm.UUCP>, <671@ut-ngp.UUCP>, <3541@fortune.UUCP>, <379@teldata.UUCP> Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 26 bip. Just one disagreement with Tom?s statement that Hitler was persecuting Jews because of their religion, not their race: wrong-o. Jews were persecuted on both counts. It was easier to find Jews who were actively practicing Judaism, but there were a LOT of Jewish Christians, agnostics, etc. killed in WWII simply because of their ancestry (There are at least some mentioned in "The Hiding Place", if you want a source). Furthermore, Hitler's stated reasons for his dealings with the Jewish people had nothing to do with their beliefs. Also, to defend my statement about "The president most responsible for the Indian genocide..." being Jackson -- I misstated that. It should have been "the president responsible for the most deaths" -- and not in the Indian Wars, but the "Trail of Tears". I know that the original discussion was on relgion/war, but it seems to have migrated to a discussion of "Is the USA morally superior to other countries". My opinion on that is that I don't believe 'moral' makes much sense applied to countries, at least not applied evenly throughout their history. Certain policies of the government of country X could be moral or immoral, but "The USA" is too ephemeral a beast to pin morals on. The policies of the United States have been, I believe, more immoral than moral, but also no worse than most countries. -Glenn