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Subject: Re: About nuking newsgroups: - (nf)
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Date: Wed, 6-Jun-84 18:34:00 EDT
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/***** ea:net.news / nsc!chuqui /  7:27 am  Jun  4, 1984 */
>This is NOT VAXnet. This is NOT BSDnet. This is USENET. The software that
>we publish needs to be portable so that it can reach the widest possible
>audience. If it doesn't we are artificially crippling the network.

So you will have us cripple our software instead?

>What you
>are telling us to do is basically the same as suggesting that a person
>write a program for the IBM PC but require that the PC have 512K instead of
>128K so that you can do everything.

I have bad news, Chuqui - most IBM PC software needs more than 128K to
run in. Most of it will run in 256K, but I suspect that the 8086's crippled
addressing modes have more to do with that than anything else.

>Anyone who honestly things they can ignored PDP's has no idea how many of
>them are still out there. They also seem to ignore the trend to
>workstations and smaller personal machines, not every one of which is going
>to try to simulate vaxes. Massive addressing spaces is for the lazy
>programmers who don't want to have to think about things like structure and
>efficiency (both of which are sometimes amazingly lacking in usenet
>software at times).

I think you have that backwards. Those who insist that everything should
run on 1970'ish hardware are ignoring the trend to personal workstations,
most of which are based on the 68000. I don't know of *any* personal
workstations based on machines with small address spaces; could you
name some for me?

As for structure and efficiency, some things just flat *will not* fit on
a PDP-11. Examples upon request.

>chuq
>From the closet of anxieties of:			Chuq Von Rospach
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