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From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen)
Newsgroups: net.origins,net.religion,net.politics
Subject: Re: Louisiana Creationism Law (A Soviet conspiracy?)
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Date: Wed, 20-Jun-84 09:13:58 EDT
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Posted: Wed Jun 20 09:13:58 1984
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From Larry Bickford:

>Is Yosi Hoshen for real? Creationism a Soviet conspiracy?
>
>Yosi may start with some decent premises, but his conclusions are
>nowhere close to real.

If you read my article carefully, you would note that my article did
not say that the present Louisiana Creationism Law is a Soviet Conspiracy.
I was talking about a hypothetical scenario that could arise if the
creationism law survives the constitutionality test.

>> Given the USSR's disastrous experience with interjecting dogmas
>> (Marxist) into science ...

>Alas, had they no support for their beliefs apart from their dogma?

Mr. Lysenko, the father of "scientific Marxist genetics" in the USSR, 
and his colleagues, using questionable scientific methodology,
produced "experimental data", which they claimed supported their genetic 
theories.

Looking at some recent endeavors of creationist "scientists", it
is not too difficult to notice that the Lysenkoism and Creationism
methodologies have a lot in common. To illustrate my point let
me remind you of two recent creationism "research projects",
namely, creationists' moon dust and speed of light "studies". 

>Actually, the U.S. schools are suffering from dogma mixed with science -
>evolutionist dogma.

Flat-earthers claim that the round earth theory is a dogma, whereas
their flat-earth theory is the truth.  Obviously, such claims do not
make "flat-earth science" true, and round earth false.   Creationists
are free to make the claim that evolution is a dogma, but this claim
is as valid as the flat-earthers' claim.

There is nothing holy in evolution or any other scientific theory.
A scientific theory will be replaced by an alternate theory when
scientists - not religionists or politicians - arrive at a consensus
that the theory is outdated.
-- 

Yosi Hoshen
Bell Laboratories
Naperville, Illinois
(312)-979-7321
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