Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site houxu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxu!welsch From: welsch@houxu.UUCP (Larry Welsch) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: A non Jew on the term goy Message-ID: <390@houxu.UUCP> Date: Sun, 3-Jun-84 09:06:19 EDT Article-I.D.: houxu.390 Posted: Sun Jun 3 09:06:19 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Jun-84 08:40:36 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 30 For crying out loud, if people are offended by being called goys then they are offended. I am not Jewish, but none of my Jewish friends have ever referred to me as a goy. If they did then I would be offended. Stop trying to rationalize using what some people find is an offensive term. You sound to me like a bunch of whites justifying why a black person should not be offended at being called a nigger. Next, I really think that there is something wrong when someone says I agree "goy" is a neutral term when applied to non-Jews. It is a different story when this term is applied to Jews. I got news for you, if the term is offensive to you then it is probably doubly offensive to me. Its use shows a lack of respect for the other peoples of the world. I may not be Jewish, but I am not a goy either. Finally, why not be positive in assertions. For example to paraphrase an earlier statement someone said, "I don't want my children to get a goyish education." Instead why not say "I want my children to get a Jewish education." The first statement is negative and I find offensive. It implies that "goyish" education is so bad that no education is preferable to a goyish education. The second statement is positive and doesn't have any offensive implications. Not Jewish and Not a goy, Larry Welsch houxu!welsch