Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihuxn!jho From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: goyim Message-ID: <703@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Sun, 3-Jun-84 04:26:32 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxn.703 Posted: Sun Jun 3 04:26:32 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Jun-84 08:32:42 EDT References: <2116@nlm-mcs.ARPA> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 17 I agree "goy" is a neutral term when applied to non-Jews. It is a different story when this term is applied to Jews. It is then considered to be derogatory and insulting. If a Jew is labeled a goy, it means that that Jew is not observing Jewish religious laws; just like the goyim who do not observe these laws. As an agnostic/atheist Jew who expresses his heretical views, I received the "goy" label from orthodox Jews during heated religious debates in Jerusalem. -- Yosi Hoshen Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois (312)-979-7321 Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho