Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site ea.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!ea!mwm From: mwm@ea.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: About nuking newsgroups: - (nf) Message-ID: <8700001@ea.UUCP> Date: Wed, 6-Jun-84 18:34:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ea.8700001 Posted: Wed Jun 6 18:34:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 11-Jun-84 00:24:29 EDT References: <221@homxa.UUCP> Lines: 41 Nf-ID: #R:homxa:-22100:ea:8700001:000:1685 Nf-From: ea!mwm Jun 6 17:34:00 1984 #R:homxa:-22100:ea:8700001:000:1685 ea!mwm Jun 6 17:34:00 1984 /***** ea:net.news / nsc!chuqui / 7:27 am Jun 4, 1984 */ >This is NOT VAXnet. This is NOT BSDnet. This is USENET. The software that >we publish needs to be portable so that it can reach the widest possible >audience. If it doesn't we are artificially crippling the network. So you will have us cripple our software instead? >What you >are telling us to do is basically the same as suggesting that a person >write a program for the IBM PC but require that the PC have 512K instead of >128K so that you can do everything. I have bad news, Chuqui - most IBM PC software needs more than 128K to run in. Most of it will run in 256K, but I suspect that the 8086's crippled addressing modes have more to do with that than anything else. >Anyone who honestly things they can ignored PDP's has no idea how many of >them are still out there. They also seem to ignore the trend to >workstations and smaller personal machines, not every one of which is going >to try to simulate vaxes. Massive addressing spaces is for the lazy >programmers who don't want to have to think about things like structure and >efficiency (both of which are sometimes amazingly lacking in usenet >software at times). I think you have that backwards. Those who insist that everything should run on 1970'ish hardware are ignoring the trend to personal workstations, most of which are based on the 68000. I don't know of *any* personal workstations based on machines with small address spaces; could you name some for me? As for structure and efficiency, some things just flat *will not* fit on a PDP-11. Examples upon request. >chuq >From the closet of anxieties of: Chuq Von Rospach /* ---------- */