Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site csd1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!houxz!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!acf4!csd1!spirakis From: spirakis@csd1.UUCP (Paul Spirakis) Newsgroups: net.nlang.greek Subject: RE: Poiotiko alma Message-ID: <172@csd1.UUCP> Date: Wed, 13-Jun-84 13:14:52 EDT Article-I.D.: csd1.172 Posted: Wed Jun 13 13:14:52 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Jun-84 01:44:39 EDT Organization: New York University Lines: 54 Me xara mou vlepw oti polloi sunadelfoi skeftikane panw sto thema tou ti apoteloun oi epistimones pou antallassoun gnwmes gia tin pliroforiki stin Ellada , mesw tou diktiou. Akoma pio simantiko einai pou i leksi "symmoria" fainetai na exei eksafanistei. Apo tis apopseis pou akoustikan mexri twra, fainetai oti to thema den exei eksantlithei kai oti xreiazetai perissoteri syzitisi. Edw , thelw na tonisw kati pou fainetai oti exei pareksigithei : To network einai vevaia ena meso enimerwsis , alla i omada epistimonwn pou to xrisimopoiei gia na syzitaei themata gia pliroforiki stin Ellada einai kati parapanw. (Logou xarin , vlepw oti i glwssa C erxetai prwti stin sxetiki psifoforia (voting) me 2 psifous !). Kai vevaia , den eimaste to idio me tous anagnwstes tou Romantsou (see palio mynima tou Manwli) giati oi anagnwstes tou Romantsou einai pathitikoi dektes kakis poiotitas pliroforias, stin dioxeteusi tis opoias , o ekdotis tis en logw filladas exei apolito elegxo. Afiste me na sas ksanathimisw edw ta osa exoun eipwthei sxetika me to svisimo mynimatwn "pou den mas aresoun i pou kanoun poly noise...". Exoun protathei diafora perierga pragmata , opws p.x. (1) "na svinoume apo ti lista mas osous stelnoun noise..." (2)"na grafoun filtra gia na epitrepoun mono sovara (sic) mynimata na kykloforoune ...." Se sxesi me auta , thelw na rwtisw olous sas , kai idiws tous sunadelfous pou ta prwteinane : Poioi tha svinoun osous parektrepontai ? Me poia diadikasia tha pernoun apofasi autoi pou theloun na svisoun kapoion ? Pws tha amynthei autos pou kindinevei na svistei kai nomizei oti adikeitai ? Blepete oti merika toso apla pragmata odigoun se skepseis gia kapoia diadikasia . Gia mena , to gegonos oti oloi emeis exoume mazeutei gyrw apo to network kai me xara prosferoume ti gnwmi mas gia themata Plirofo- rikis stin Ellada , einai arketo na me kanei na katalavw oti : (1) Mas kaiei to thema tis pliroforikis ypanaptiksis tis xwras mas (2) Theloume na voeithisoume (3) Mporoume na voeithisoume (yparxoun oi texnikes gnwseis) Pws omws tha ginei auto vre paidia , otan to mono pou kanoume einai na "pixnoume ti gnwmi mas sto diktio" kai epeita na perimenoume kapoios (o kalos theoulis ?) na ti mazepsei , na tin ektimisei , kai na tin steilei stin Ellada ? Yparxei (gia paradeigma) stin Ameriki i Enwsi Ellinwn Biologwn (pou ekane kai synedrio perisy stin Washington) , to Modern Greek Study Assoc. (kyria filologoi kai poiites) me thaumasti drastiriotita , kai alles enwseis epistimonwn ,gyrw apo ena gnwstiko antikeimeno, me dimo- kratikes arxes. Diladi , den einai tipota kainourgio , i idea tis E.P.E.K.A.P. Den prepei na fovomaste tis dimokratikes diadikasies kai ti syllogiki leitourgia. As skeftoume kai gia to paradeigma tou ACM. Oi perissoteroi apo mas einai (i tha ginoun) voting members. Giati na einai kaneis voting member kaina min arkeitai sto broadcasting tis pliroforias apo to CACM ? Elpizw na synexistei i toso epikodomitiki kai kalopisti syzitisi pou arxise. Einai o monos tropos na dothei apantisi se merika (opws fainetai kauta) themata . Me synadelfikous xairetismous-- Pavlos