Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1.chuqui 4/7/84; site nsc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!nsc!chuqui From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: "The deafness of the audience" Message-ID: <1060@nsc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Jun-84 12:46:50 EDT Article-I.D.: nsc.1060 Posted: Thu Jun 14 12:46:50 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 16-Jun-84 00:42:11 EDT References: <1403@decwrl.UUCP> <1839@dartvax.UUCP> Organization: The Warlocks Cave Lines: 37 >> Auurrrgh! What else can I say??!??! Mr. Sargent's ignorance has me worried >> about the deafness of the rest of the audience. Please prove me wrong. >> >> Ellen Brenner > >Why shouldn't the audience be deaf? -- or at least mute, when such >an unresolvable topic as this comes up on the net. So much talk and >yelling hasn't gotten anyone anywhere. Jeff says that gays are >perverted and sick, gays (and others who feel they have a quest >against -- what? -- "intolerance") respond that Jeff is a hung-up >and closed-minded religious fanatic. So what has happened? Jeff >hasn't argued anyone onto his side, and nobody else has argued >Jeff over to the other side. It's a stalemate, Ellen -- and >you expect everyone else on the net to throw his two cents in? >Why bother? The discussion (and I use the term somewhat loosely) >just doesn't seem to be getting anywhere. Am I seeing the same discussion you are? I think a LOT is getting done, and I think that people ARE listening. True, you may not change Jeff's mind (Editor's note: this time) but I think I know Jeff well enough to know he IS listening and he is trying to understand. If he didn't want answers to his questions the thing would never have come up. And I am sure that there are many others out there learning a lot from the discussion (I happen to be one of them). Anytime there is a free flow of information on subjects like this everyone wins except those that refuse to listen and think about the information. Those don't matter because they are lost anyway. chuq -- From the ledge of the seventh cornice: Chuq Von Rospach {amd70,fortune,hplabs,ihnp4}!nsc!chuqui (408) 733-2600 x242 Love is the process of my leading you gently back to yourself. - Saint Exupery