Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1+some 2/3/84; site dual.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!vax135!houxz!houxm!ihnp4!dual!mats From: mats@dual.UUCP (Mats Wichmann) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Generic mc68000 port Message-ID: <612@dual.UUCP> Date: Wed, 27-Jun-84 01:49:54 EDT Article-I.D.: dual.612 Posted: Wed Jun 27 01:49:54 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Jun-84 06:55:08 EDT References: <408@kvvax4.UUCP> Organization: Dual Systems, Berkeley, CA Lines: 42 My information is gathered from numerous conversations with AT&T people and Motorola people, especially Bill Lowery. However, the story changes almost weekly, so this may not be the latest version. Motorola did a port to the 68000 of AT&T UNIX System V, Release 1. This port was *NOT* intended to be an enhancement of the standard AT&T UNIX System (unlike what many porting houses try to provide: UniSoft, MicroSoft, HCR, etc). It was specifically intended to be an extremely vanilla port. Prior to beginning the port, Motorola was handed a document describing acceptance criteria for AT&T. They did the port, and in due time had it validated and accepted by AT&T. Most of the rumors flying around pertain to the gray area of the time between the port being up and running and AT&T validating it. Motrola will send you source code for the port NOW for $2000 (plus media cost). The catch is that you must have an AT&T System V source license with AT&T and it *MUST* be specified as a 68000 Version (*NOT* VAX version) source license. Those of you with a VAX source license will need to have it converted or purchase an `additional CPU' license, specified as 68000 Version. Until validation, this license was not available, therefore Motorola was unable to ship the product. Some clarification is still necessary with respect to AT&T's position on processor-type-specific licenses, a new idea for most people. Such things as conversion details (switching from Vax to 68000, for example) are still not completely straight. It is rumored to be easy and cheap (like free). I have not gone through the procedure, so I don't know for sure. System V, release 2 is due to be completed by Motrola 3Q or 4Q of '84. Presumably, the same shipping restrictions will apply - no valiadtion from AT&T, no product shipped. Validation consists, apparently, of checking each line of code with the original, so there are no substantial rewrites, except in very processor-specific stuff (kernel, compilers, PS, debuggers). Do not expect Sys V, R 2 before '85, in my humble opinion. Mats Wichmann Dual Systems Corp. ...{ucbvax,amd70,ihnp4,cbosgd,decwrl,fortune}!dual!mats P.S. - apparently, there was a session at the recent Usenix show, where Motorola may have discussed some of these details. I did not attend, so I don't know. If someone has info from there that conflicts with or is an addition to what I have mentioned, please post comments.