Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!houxz!vax135!floyd!cmcl2!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!G.ZEEP%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA From: G.ZEEP%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: SF-LOVERS Digest V9 #109 Message-ID: <793@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 12-Jun-84 13:15:41 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.793 Posted: Tue Jun 12 13:15:41 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Jun-84 23:47:27 EDT Lines: 17 From: Wang ZeepThere is no second law of thermodynamics. There is, however, a postulate that something like entropy exists (with a long list of properties) and another postulate that it tends to reach a maximum with respect to unconstrained variables. This 1st, 2nd, 3rd "law" stuff is strictly 19th century (well, part of the 20th). Read Laszlo Tisza, "Generalized Thermodynamics" or Herbert Callen, "Thermody- namics". Summary: They aren't laws, just postulates. (and they have been verified to break down with very large or very small systems.) 'Nuff said, Wang -------