Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: Notesfiles; site uokvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!vax135!houxz!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uokvax!lmaher From: lmaher@uokvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: Orphaned Response - (nf) Message-ID: <5800016@uokvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 2-Jul-84 00:51:00 EDT Article-I.D.: uokvax.5800016 Posted: Mon Jul 2 00:51:00 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Jun-84 05:55:07 EDT References: <7332@umcp-cs.UUCP> Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:umcp-cs:-733200:uokvax:5800016:37777777600:1424 Nf-From: uokvax!lmaher Jun 18 23:51:00 1984 #R:umcp-cs:-733200:uokvax:5800016:37777777600:1424 uokvax!lmaher Jun 18 23:51:00 1984 /***** uokvax:net.startrek / umcp-cs!brad / 8:24 am Jun 3, 1984 */ I loved the acting except for Christopher Lloyd. I just couldn't see him as evil... /* ---------- */ Wasn't this intentional? Kruge isn't evil, just unprincipled. The Federation has a weapon that can destroy entire planets. If the Klingons don't get it to maintain the balance they're history. (Obviously the Klingons can't believe the Federation would possess such a weapon but not use it. After all, if the situation were reversed, ...) When the stakes are the life or death of your entire race, there are no rules. Kruge gambled, and he lost. Kirk could have prevented David's death if he had wanted to badly enough - he gambled, and he lost. Kirk has destroyed entire societies (although not lives) just to preserve his ship and crew. Can we condemn Kruge for committing smaller crimes for a greater cause? Remember Kruge wanted to take the Grissom prisoner; no one needed to die. Kirk lost David, but Kruge lost his entire crew to Kirk's trick (a marvelous scene, by the way). This is not a condemnation of Kirk, but a defense of Kruge. Like all Great Men, he did what had to be done. Unlike Great Men, he failed. R.I.P. Carl (formerly uok!crigney) ..!ctvax!uokvax!lmaher ..!duke!uok!uokvax!lmaher P.S. But then, I rooted for Khan :-)