Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site teldata.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!houxz!vax135!floyd!harpo!decvax!ucbvax!ucbcad!tektronix!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac From: tac@teldata.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Technical Aid to Nicaragua Message-ID: <385@teldata.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-Jun-84 12:37:28 EDT Article-I.D.: teldata.385 Posted: Mon Jun 11 12:37:28 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Jun-84 01:27:26 EDT References: <766@bbncca.ARPA>, <381@teldata.UUCP>, <991@ihuxq.UUCP> Organization: Teltone Corp., Kirkland, WA Lines: 45 , (sop to the blank line eaters--consider it a religious sacrifice) In reply to my reply and I will not repeat it all here: Yes, Ken, I realize the differences between El Salvadore and Nicaragua. In one country Faction A is in power and supported by the US to put down Faction B. In the other Faction B is in power and is figthing to put down Faction A which is supported by the US. This may be an over simplification, but it is reasonably accurate for our purposes. The main thrust of my article was that we should not be improving their war capabilities, but removing the US presence which unbalences (and adds to the capabilities for) the war. Come on, Ken, as a man who marched against the VN war do you mean to tell me that this one is just fine? Did you think the answer to the VN war was to give technical aid to North Viet Nam? There is an interesting game out on the market called "Civilization" by Avalon Hill. It has many interesting aspects and models the rise of a nation/racial group from stone age to late iron age. It is based around the Mediterrainian, but the concepts are the same whereever you might make the map for. One of the best aspects is that players SLOWLY find that you can't win the game by fighting wars. They hurt both players too much. When I first started playing with the local group they would already have the battle lines drawn when they started play. I hopped in and made friends with the people around me and became peacefull. Since everyone would trade with me I was able to make deals no one else could and my race prospered beyond all expectations. It took them several games which I either won or finished second (out of 7 or 8) before they realized that it was the lack of war which did the trick. The moral of this is that while the game is only a game, it does model real life in this respect. You can not throw men and equipment into war and still raise your standards of civilization at the same time. EVEN IF IT IS SOMEONE ELSE'S WAR! So lets not debate which side is right or wrong. WRITE YOUR CONGRESS- PERSON AND YOUR PRESIDENT AND GET THE @#$% OUT OF *ALL* OF THE WARS IN THE WORLD. From the Soapbox of Tom Condon {...!uw-beaver!teltone!teldata!tac} One Less War A Week Might Bring The Peace We Seek. DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed herein are those of everyone who matters, but not necessarily anyone you know, and most certainly not my employers!