Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!vax135!houxz!houxm!ihnp4!mit-eddie!nessus From: nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Carrot murder Message-ID: <2187@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Tue, 19-Jun-84 20:52:32 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.2187 Posted: Tue Jun 19 20:52:32 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Jun-84 06:33:26 EDT References: <1693@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 32 > It is not murder to kill a carrot or an unborn child because neither > is intelligent (what is YOUR definition of intelligence) but because > you don't WANT it to be murder in the case of the child. After all, > animals are intelligent and we don't "murder"them, do we? Or are you > really some kind of way out animal groupie and you're really trying to > build a case for not harming animals? Animals, with the exception perhaps of some monkey, dolphins, and whales, aren't intelligent. Therefore you can't murder them. Perhaps killing a Dolphin is murder; the issue is unclear. > Intelligence, non intelligence = murder non murder doesn't equate. > Is that the way they teach you to think in that place? Or rather is > that what they teach you to think? Murder has nothing to do with the victim being a member of the species Homo Sapient. If we were to discover, for example, that there are intelligent aliens living on Mars, wouldn't it be murder to unfairly and purposely kill a Martian? I say yes! What do these hypothetical Martians and Homo Sapients have in common that makes killing one of either class murder? Intelligence. And I don't know about you -- you have created some of the most indecipherable sentences I have yet seen -- but I can think for myself (I think). -- -Doug Alan mit-eddie!nessus Nessus@MIT-MC "What does 'I' mean"?