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From: saquigley@watmath.UUCP (Sophie Quigley)
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Subject: Re: Sorry, Jeff
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Date: Sat, 23-Jun-84 15:08:07 EDT
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Posted: Sat Jun 23 15:08:07 1984
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OK Paul Dubuc, why is heterosexuality good?   Since all you heterosexuals
out there seem to be asking homosexuals to justify the fact that they are
not bad, I'd like to turn the question back to you.  What makes you think
that you can put yourself in a position of righteousness and demand of
others that they justify their preferences without you ever justifying yours.

You make an analogy between pedophilia and homosexuality.  I will answer your
question on why I think pedophilia is bad.  First of all, pedophilia is the
wrong word. pedophilia means loving children.  I don't see what could be
wrong with that if the children are willing throughout but it is very hard 
to know if they are willing or not.  When one thinks of pedophilia one is
usually thinking of rape as "incest" also seems to have taken on the meaning
of rape by a member of one's immediate family when actually all it means is
sexual relationship between members of the same family.  Anyway when children
are involved it is very hard to determine the degree of willingness of the
child as the adult is more powerful than the child most often (no matter what
certain authors would like people to believe).  That is why I think pedophilia
incestuous or not, is dangerous:  it leaves the door open to a lot of abuse
as the two participants are not of equal strength. (Actually an analogy between
pedophilia and heterosexuality would make much more sense, as partners in
heterosexual relationships are often of unequal strength, which leaves the
door open to a lot of abuse - and many people do go through that door)

Homosexuality is different (even though some people like to lump them 
together for shock effect).  The homosexuality being discussed here is
between consenting adults.  It is a cliche, but is the main point of it.
Why is it "wrong" for two consenting adults of the same sex to have 
sexual relationships?  why not?  since you are claiming that it isn't,
the onus is on you to prove that it isn't.  The position of homosexuals
on the net have been so far, that it is not right or wrong either way,
i.e they are not putting a moral judgement on the act.  So why are you?
explain yourself, tell us what you base your moral judgement on in the
first place, so that we don't get into pointless discussions.  If it is
on a certain book, then how do you know this book is right?  

(this is all net.religion stuff it seems. so what is it doing in net.motss?
yeah it seems that once again net.motss is turning into a place where
homosexuals have to defend their preferences)

Sophie Quigley
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