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From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton)
Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.news
Subject: Re: If I see one more yes vote, I'll whimper!
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Date: Sun, 3-Jun-84 07:45:33 EDT
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Posted: Sun Jun  3 07:45:33 1984
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Comittees are a bad idea. Having all these damn votes in
net.news.group caused me to unsubscribe to net.news.group
a long time ago. If the posters would put:

"proposed group net.goats-and-garlic -- vote"
in their titles (or stick the vote in the title as well) then I
could get by with my 'n' key. Alas this requires intelligence
on the part of netnews voters and I don't think that we can
wait for them to develop it.

The discussion on tiredgroups looks like it is going to take
a long while. In the meanwhile, what about net.news.vote.

I propose this as an experiement. It is MY proposal and here
are the rules.

1. I am going to temporarily re-subscribe to net.news.group.
2. If I get one ``yes'' vote in net.news.group I am going to
   COUNT IT AS A NO.
3. If I get one ``no'' vote in net.news.group I am going to
   COUNT IT AS A YES.
4. If it is posted to multiple groups (like net.news) then
   the penalty will be multiplied by the number of groups
   it is posted to.
5. If you send me mail saying ``yes'' or ``no'' then I am going to
   count it is TWO YESes or TWO NOs.

The object of the game is to see if people can actually refrain
from posting votes and send it by mail. If we get a negative
score out of the whole deal then we know that usenetters can't
follow directions even when it is clearly in their own interest
to do so and thus can give up believing that they will act
reasonably when you suggest any proposal.

If, on the other hand, you never see another vote for net.news.votes
then the experiment will be considered a success and these rules should
be propegated for all ``let's create a new newsgroup'' discussions.

Now, for all of you who do not want to vote, but also want to get your
$0.75 worth of ``why I want/do not want net.news.votes'' I have a solution.
I am going to make up a mailing list of everybody who replies to me and
ASKS TO BE PUT ON IT. (default is OFF, that is -- you won't see any
discussion unless you ASK FOR IT.) And all the mail that I receive
on this subject is going to go out on the mailing list. (ALL of it.
Without editing. What you send me everybody who ASKS is going to
read. Just like usenet, except you only get the interested parties.)

This is it. discussion, howls of dislike, praise, promises of money --
ALL BY MAIL. or I guarantee I WILL penalise you for it.

And if we can't get a better solution out of this then we deserve the
Politburo.

-- 
Laura Creighton
utzoo!laura