Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!vax135!houxz!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxn!jho From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) Newsgroups: net.origins,net.religion,net.politics Subject: Re: Louisiana Creationism Law (A Soviet conspiracy?) Message-ID: <725@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Jun-84 09:13:58 EDT Article-I.D.: ihuxn.725 Posted: Wed Jun 20 09:13:58 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Jun-84 07:12:11 EDT Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 49 From Larry Bickford: >Is Yosi Hoshen for real? Creationism a Soviet conspiracy? > >Yosi may start with some decent premises, but his conclusions are >nowhere close to real. If you read my article carefully, you would note that my article did not say that the present Louisiana Creationism Law is a Soviet Conspiracy. I was talking about a hypothetical scenario that could arise if the creationism law survives the constitutionality test. >> Given the USSR's disastrous experience with interjecting dogmas >> (Marxist) into science ... >Alas, had they no support for their beliefs apart from their dogma? Mr. Lysenko, the father of "scientific Marxist genetics" in the USSR, and his colleagues, using questionable scientific methodology, produced "experimental data", which they claimed supported their genetic theories. Looking at some recent endeavors of creationist "scientists", it is not too difficult to notice that the Lysenkoism and Creationism methodologies have a lot in common. To illustrate my point let me remind you of two recent creationism "research projects", namely, creationists' moon dust and speed of light "studies". >Actually, the U.S. schools are suffering from dogma mixed with science - >evolutionist dogma. Flat-earthers claim that the round earth theory is a dogma, whereas their flat-earth theory is the truth. Obviously, such claims do not make "flat-earth science" true, and round earth false. Creationists are free to make the claim that evolution is a dogma, but this claim is as valid as the flat-earthers' claim. There is nothing holy in evolution or any other scientific theory. A scientific theory will be replaced by an alternate theory when scientists - not religionists or politicians - arrive at a consensus that the theory is outdated. -- Yosi Hoshen Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois (312)-979-7321 Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho