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From: dcs@homxa.UUCP (D.SIMEN)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Re: goyim
Message-ID: <229@homxa.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 4-Jun-84 09:31:36 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jun  4 09:31:36 1984
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Nancy Miller writes:
> I am given to understand, from my own upbringing, that shiker & shikse
> are the terms meant to be derogatory for goyim and goyes (masculine
> and feminine).
Nice try, but not quite.  In fact, "shigtse" or "shiktse" (often shortened to
"shikse" *is* a feminine term for non-Jew (and *is* derogatory, although its
use among Americans seems to be neutral, probably because they don't know the
word's origins), but "shiker" (also spelled "shikker" or "shikkur" or "shikur")
means "drunk" or "drunkard".  Since "shigste" has appeared on the net, I'll
spill the beans and give the masculine form:  "sheigets" (in the Yidish*
pronunciation).
						David ben Mord'kai Simen
						...!homxa!dcs
*which everyone knows is hopelessly vulgar.