Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site spuxll.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!floyd!whuxle!spuxll!ech From: ech@spuxll.UUCP (Ned Horvath) Newsgroups: net.arch,net.followup,net.micro Subject: Re: AT&T and the 3B*2 Message-ID: <483@spuxll.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Jun-84 01:27:51 EDT Article-I.D.: spuxll.483 Posted: Mon Jun 4 01:27:51 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 5-Jun-84 20:15:46 EDT References: <692@cp1.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems, South Plainfield NJ Lines: 26 C'mon folks -- I, like you, am used to "full UNIX" -- meaning having run of all of section 1 AND the source to the whole schmeer. It is akin to having an infinite credit balance at a large department store... But if you refuse to recognize that having anything dreamed up by anybody anytime COSTS, you are living in a self-imposed fantasy. You want everything? Fine, you can buy it. But you have no right to spread your costs over the world at large, when the average person (not hacker!) wants only what's useful to THEM (and wants to PAY only for what is useful). Sure, yacc is a useful tool. But for what fraction of the total market? cc is useful for a broader market, but again: how many computer USERS are computer PROGRAMMERS? In your particular corner the percentage may be high, but most of the programs I write get replicated dozens or hundreds of times onto "field" machines that lack source, compilers, etc. If AT&T marketing has sinned, it was the somewhat minor crime of not making it totally clear just what was standard and what was optional for the 3B2. We might expect better of AT&T, but no one who has ever bought a car from a new car dealer should be SURPRISED at the confusion. There is even the hope that AT&T marketing will LEARN from this experience and improve on the situation before the 3B2 becomes generally available! Willing to pay for my toys, =Ned=