Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site whuxj.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!houxz!houxm!whuxl!whuxj!wjm From: wjm@whuxj.UUCP (MITCHELL) Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Re: Re: Modern Music Message-ID: <260@whuxj.UUCP> Date: Mon, 4-Jun-84 10:01:05 EDT Article-I.D.: whuxj.260 Posted: Mon Jun 4 10:01:05 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 6-Jun-84 00:56:49 EDT Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc. Lines: 25Some thoughts on the recent articles about modern music (and some replies to myy comments). First, the discussion is great ... proving that those of us who wanted net.music .classical read the tea leaves properly in estimating the need for this newsgroup... Second, I'm not going to say that the 12-tone and other modern schemes are *BAD*, whatever that means (I'm not sure how one would make the objective judgement that that implies), I AM going to say that after several attempts to listen to it with an open mind that I don't like it, and will, as much as possible vote with my ticket-buying wallet against it. Third, I agree that most music of ANY age was mediocre, and that the great are what have survived from earlier ages - although frankly I happen to like Beethoven's early symphonies - especially No. 4, which I feel are neglected in favor of the BIG odd numbered ones (3,5,7 & 9). The only even Beethoven symphony that receives much hearing is the Pastorial (which is also one of my favorites). Fourth, I suspect the socio-economic support of composers has encouraged many modern composers (especially Schoenberg, Berg, and Cage) to create music with minimal regard for public or patron support. Perhaps we should return to the patron system of old, with corporate bodies being the patrons, certainly this is more to my liking than using government funds to support artists. Regards, Bill Mitchell (whuxj!wjm)