Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!mit-eddie!nessus From: nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Save the wails Message-ID: <2217@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Jun-84 23:13:56 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.2217 Posted: Thu Jun 21 23:13:56 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Jun-84 02:48:56 EDT References: <1815@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 52 > From: arndt@smurf.DEC > Doug, my man. You are some kind of strange shithead. At least I don't use a computer called "smurf"! > You ARE an animal freak! You actually took the position that > killing whales, etc. (of course the jury is still out on the > dolphins - watch out Flipper!) is murder. I did not. I only said that perhaps they are intelligent. If they are intelligent, then killing them is murder. If they are not intelligent, then killing them is not murder. Perhaps you don't know what 'perhaps' means. Here's what I said, so you can try again to misinterpret me: "Animals, with the exception perhaps of some monkey, dolphins, and whales, aren't intelligent. Therefore you can't murder them. Perhaps killing a Dolphin is murder; the issue is unclear." > You have just got to be a freshman. Another unsound and completely wrong conclusion! > If I were you I'd shut up before someone caught on that you were > fair game for the hunt. It's already too late for you. > Anyway, what are you studying? I'll bet you'd make a great day > laborer. Computer Science. Philosophy. I think that you're just jealous that in 6 months I'll have better employment oportunities than you'll have in your whole life. I can tell by now that you have no ability to address the issues and have to resort to personal attack, but maybe you can change and try to muster up some rationality into your sadly confused head. Here is my main argument again, to help you: "Murder has nothing to do with the victim being a member of the species Homo Sapien. If we were to discover, for example, that there are intelligent aliens living on Mars, wouldn't it be murder to unfairly and purposely kill a Martian? I say yes! What do these hypothetical Martians and Homo Sapients have in common that makes killing one of either class murder? Intelligence." -- -Doug Alan mit-eddie!nessus Nessus@MIT-MC "What does 'I' mean"?