Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1a 12/4/83; site rlgvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!hao!seismo!rlgvax!guy From: guy@rlgvax.UUCP (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: net.followup,net.micro Subject: Re: AT&T vs. the toolkit approach Message-ID: <2029@rlgvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 15-Jun-84 23:46:26 EDT Article-I.D.: rlgvax.2029 Posted: Fri Jun 15 23:46:26 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Jun-84 05:19:21 EDT References: <77@mouton.UUCP> <7378@rochester.UUCP> Organization: CCI Office Systems Group, Reston, VA Lines: 19 > I think that AT&T is responding to the marketplace - not the > hacker marketplace, but the real world one they hope will buy > their machines. > Where are all these real-world people? Apollo has some 2000 units in > the field. Sun has a couple of hundred, I would guess. How many of > these are give-aways? How many went to hackers of one sort or > another? How many are actually used by these application-oriented > people? Would you put up with Unix for $20K with only binaries, > even though you DO know something about it? The Sun/Apollo marketplace isn't the 3B2 marketplace. The 3B2 marketplace is the Fortune 32:16 marketplace, the Zilog System 8000 marketplace, the Altos Whatever marketplace, the Plexus Whatever marketplace, etc.. It's the small multiuser box markeplace, not the single-user high-power bit-mapped- display workstation marketplace. Guy Harris {seismo,ihnp4,allegra}!rlgvax!guy