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From: welsch@houxu.UUCP (Larry Welsch)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: A non Jew on the term goy
Message-ID: <390@houxu.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 3-Jun-84 09:06:19 EDT
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Posted: Sun Jun  3 09:06:19 1984
Date-Received: Tue, 5-Jun-84 08:40:36 EDT
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For crying out loud, if people are offended by being called goys then they
are offended.  I am not Jewish, but none of my Jewish friends have ever
referred to me as a goy.  If they did then I would be offended.  Stop
trying to rationalize using what some people find is an offensive term.
You sound to me like a bunch of whites justifying why a black person
should not be offended at being called a nigger.

Next, I really think that there is something wrong when someone says

	I agree "goy" is a neutral term when applied to non-Jews.

	It is a different story when this term is applied to Jews.

I got news for you, if the term is offensive to you then it is probably
doubly offensive to me.  Its use shows a lack of respect for the other
peoples of the world.  I may not be Jewish, but I am not a goy either.  

Finally, why not be positive in assertions.  For example to paraphrase an
earlier statement someone said, "I don't want my children to get a goyish
education."  Instead why not say "I want my children to get a Jewish
education."  The first statement is negative and I find offensive.  It
implies that "goyish" education is so bad that no education is preferable
to a goyish education.  The second statement is positive and doesn't have
any offensive implications.


					Not Jewish and Not a goy,
					
					Larry Welsch
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