Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!fortune!brower From: brower@fortune.UUCP (Richard Brower) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Re: Dammit Dyer Message-ID: <3658@fortune.UUCP> Date: Thu, 21-Jun-84 17:06:36 EDT Article-I.D.: fortune.3658 Posted: Thu Jun 21 17:06:36 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 22-Jun-84 20:39:04 EDT References: <1780@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 29 Yoe are right about the Christian movement placing a bad rap on the morals of the gay community. And it has indeed been true that the Christian Church has had a strong hand in the formation of the 'so-called morals' of the "western world". Also, I will admit that the evangelical movement of the "Christian right" seems to be making some headway in the direction of reversing the advances made in the last decade in the area of human rights. That, unfortunately, does not make the "church" any more right for denying us (and women, handicapped, blacks, children, Catholics, Hindis) our rights to be human, sheltered, fed, employed, etc. The real answer is that the habit some people have of attempting to enforce their "moral" beliefs on other people must be stopped. This is not to say that murder, theft, etc. can suddenly be allowed, but instead to say that depriving any person of the right to decide what may be done to themselves and their property is wrong... whether that deprevation occurs by murdering them or by depriving them of the right to work or live under shelter or take the first empty seat in the bus. It is not is not the morals of gays that should be questioned, it is the morals of those who oppose our right to work, to live where we wish, to love whom we wish, and who call for different treatment of people based on their gender or sex or colour that must be called into question. Richard Brower Fortune Systems {ihnp4,ucbvax!amd70,hpda,sri-unix,harpo}!fortune!brower