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From: steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer)
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Subject: Re: Preachy authors continued..... - (nf)
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Date: Mon, 5-Mar-84 20:06:27 EST
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>>     Well I'm a male and I enjoyed Thendara House.  As I read the
>   book I took no offense, but then maybe that was because the author
>   wasn't talking about me.  Were you like one of the characters in
>   the book?  Is that why you took offense?


	No, I guess I just take offense easily.   In the same vein,
    I am unlike any character in any GOR book I have ever looked at,
    but also take offense at the plastic portrayals of people.  The
    major difference between GOR and Thendra House simply seems to
    be the thrust of the novels:  One creates an absolutely sexist
    society to revel in sado-mashochism, one creates an absolutely
    sexist society, to attempt to show that it is no different than
    our own.   Both are such bad writing, they made me barf.


>                                             I though that Zimmer wrote
>   an excellent book portraying a clash of cultures.  Keep in mind that
>   she isn't necessarily writing about our culture (although I'm not
>   so sure it doesn't fit in many cases).  The plot was very well
>   written and really made me think about culture clashes and looking
>   beyond what most of us take for granted.  (and i'm not just refering
>   to male-female relationships...  i'm refering to thousands of
>   pseudo behaviors that society has created).

	It would help Marion Zimmer Bradely, if she ever read any
    NON-FICTION books on the same subject.  Perhaps she might wake
    up from her fantasy long enough to realise that there are quite
    a few present day culture clashes, considerably more interesting
    than her own.  More interesting because they are not totally
    centered around male-female relationships, and because they are
    REAL.   (In Thendara House, not a man from either culture is
    presented as a loving, caring person; in NONE of her books, does
    any "good" male protagonist like the society he are living in.
    -- Perhaps if she (or you) read anything by Fernia about Islamic
    culture for instance, you might actually loosen up that feminist
    cultural bigotry that you have.


>                                                But I suppose that
>   if you were preoccupied with worrying about your male ego, you
>   might have missed that.


	This is an example of "feminist cultural bigotry".   I dislike
    that preachy book,  therefore I am "preoccupied with worrying about"
    my MALE ego.....


Steven Maurer