Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat From: wombat@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Ideas to help smooth the transition - (nf) Message-ID: <6037@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Mar-84 22:45:59 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.6037 Posted: Mon Mar 5 22:45:59 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Mar-84 05:21:31 EST Lines: 25 #R:oliveb:-29500:uicsl:8200006:000:1289 uicsl!wombat Mar 5 14:39:00 1984 oliveb!toml is assuming that everyone is agreed on changing the structure of the net when it just ain't true. I think it would cause far more problems than it might solve, for the simple reasons that many sites aren't running current software, many managers haven't the slightest idea what the net is, and therefore aren't that interested in "keeping up with the Joneses, and all of the "well, you should either upgrade or drop out" 's in the world aren't going to change it. I don't believe the manager here has ever read a single article (except for those I forward through mail to her) and I doubt she could careless whether we stay attached, though several of our users (especially in AI) might well be affected. Also, the new 4.2BSD distribution has a version of notes in it, as well as some version of news. It seems to me it would be a lot easier to include an upgrade with distribution fields, bells, and whistles in a new UNIX release than separately. Anybody who doesn't like things the way they currently are should start working on all the fixes they want and try to get them into the next major software release, and then asking the stragglers who aren't upgrading their OS to at least upgrade their news/notes(/uucp?) software. Wombat ihnp4!uiucdcs!uicsl!wombat