Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!PLOUFF@mit-mc From: PLOUFF%mit-mc@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro.cpm Subject: MODEM TRUCE Message-ID: <17654@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Sat, 17-Mar-84 21:53:00 EST Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.17654 Posted: Sat Mar 17 21:53:00 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Mar-84 01:07:13 EST Lines: 62 From: Robert L. PlouffeThis message was sent to Irv Hoff: Irv, I have read your message on the Detroit system. Let me offer a TRUCE proposition: 1. When you said that you were going to give me a little fix to include in MDM728, I recall that you referred to a request from Sigi that you couldn't locate at the moment and that you were going to send me another message and tell me what it was. So, when I got the other message (which requested the LOGLP1 change), I assumed that was the one you were referring to. Sorry that I mis-understood. 2. Yes, you are quite right that I didn't test the change that deleted the CR,LF's. Now that you point out the " CR,LF ++" at SHOWERR, I agree that I was wrong and hereby apologize. 3. I suggest that the ACKNAK flag be relabelled to NORETRY and that as the overlays get upgraded when-and-as-if necessary that they get fixed also. In the meantime, a note such as I included in MDM728.MSG (available in Detroit) should suffice. 4. After you look at the fix at LOGLP that I have recommended and tested it to your satisfaction, I suggest that it be included in the next release. 5. Suggest we look for the reason that ring-back no longer works for PMMI although I agree that this one isn't all important but there ARE still plenty of people with PMMI's and only one phone line who use ring-back for their own use even if they are not an RCPM. 6. No disagreement on the timing change on returning to CP/M. 7. With respect to other systems using compatible protocols that are available on other networks or as direct dial-ups, please understand that one of the tremendous values of this program is that it remain compatible with them and operable in all respects. So far, I believe this is so and due-diligence should be maintained to guarantee that it remains that way. (I am, however, currently investigating a problem report on downloading from USC-ECLB using the host compatible protocol there.) I believe that you have provided the community with a very valuable service and that the user-provided support on multiple overlays to allow a great number of systems to use MDM7xx is outstanding. I also have been involved for about the past four and a half years in finding bugs, providing fixes and adding new and improved capabilities. I kept the system from getting broken and staying that way many times long before you got involved. Many other important contributions came from several other interested/capable parties also. Yes, Ron Fowler's work, including a bunch of features that I gave him, may become the urposes, but in the meantime my intent has only been the one that I have had for a long time - i.e, to keep the program useful as widely as possible and from being broken. It hasn't been easy.