Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!cas From: cas@cvl.UUCP (Cliff Shaffer) Newsgroups: net.consumers Subject: Re: another sweepstakes (Cheeselovers == Carter & Van Peel?) Message-ID: <866@cvl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Mar-84 18:17:14 EST Article-I.D.: cvl.866 Posted: Mon Mar 5 18:17:14 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 6-Mar-84 03:58:16 EST References: <558@pucc-h> <1051@proper.UUCP> Organization: U. of Md. Computer Vision Lab Lines: 26 Add to the Carter & Van Peel empire "Gem Collectors International" (or some name vaguely like that). I got a similar sweepstakes offer about 6-8 months ago and sent it in. The drawing was for about new years, and I was guarenteed to win at least a stone or two of some sort. I have not heard anything from them since then. It was part of an advertisement to join the gem collectors group. I included a letter saying I couldn't possibly join anything which included no real information about the product. I plan to write a letter to the postal authorities soon about it all. Of course I was expecting this to happen - I made copies of all the forms because ... Well, this is not the first time I have dealt with Carter & Van Peel. About a year ago, I responded to an add in Dial Magazine (the magazine used by many PBS stations around the country to carry their listings - I would have thought it to be a reliable place for ads, but not so) for one of these cheap telephones. After several months, a letter, and calls to a permanently busy phone number, I sent a letter to the Better Business Bureau which referred it to the Postal Inspecter. I got the phone soon after and called off the dogs. Since it won't cost you more than a stamp, I urge everyone to respond to the Sweepstakes letters. Then, we should stay in touch with each other as to results and try to coordinate a letter campaign to the Post office. I would like to see these people shut down. Cliff Shaffer ...!rlgvax!cvl!cas