Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site watcgl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watcgl!dmmartindale From: dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) Newsgroups: net.micro,net.research,net.cse Subject: Re: First Summary of PC's in Education Survey Message-ID: <2268@watcgl.UUCP> Date: Sun, 18-Mar-84 13:42:45 EST Article-I.D.: watcgl.2268 Posted: Sun Mar 18 13:42:45 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Mar-84 07:23:58 EST References: <9@sask.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 35 Anyone care to donate another VAX to Waterloo? The rumour has a slight basis in truth, but it mostly wrong. Waterloo encourages manufacturers to give us hardware outright, or in exchange for software, but most of it ends up being purchased. Some statistics: watrose, watmath, watcgl, watdaisy, wateng, watdcsu are all VAX 11/780's; there is another one running VMS which has no name. Of those 7, watdcsu and the current watmath were obtained by a buy-one-get-one-free donation from DEC. The remaining 5 were purchased at full price, less the standard discount that anyone in a university in Ontario gets. There are a few 750's around too - they were all purchased. The Honeywell DPS8/49 called watbun got a new processor and some disks last year courtesy of Honeywell. IBM has been the biggest donor so far - they've donated 3 4341's and (I think) about 50 IBM pc's. But this wasn't an outright gift; they got access to some software and had some research done in return. And most of this equipment was allocated to specific groups of researchers, not the university in general. The computing centre owns another 3 4341's which were purchased. Tektronix donated a microprocessor development system to one of the labs. As a smaller example, Able is giving us a pair of Ethernet boards for Vaxes in return for a 4.2BSD device driver for them - not a bad deal for Able. Overall, I believe that most of the computer hardware around here was not an outright donation, and the majority of it was purchased rather than traded for. The diversity of what's available is mostly the result of a variety of groups each going off in their own direction, rather than what someone decided to donate. Dave Martindale Computer Graphics Lab University of Waterloo