Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site qubix.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!decvax!decwrl!sun!qubix!steven From: steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Preachy authors continued..... - (nf) Message-ID: <902@qubix.UUCP> Date: Mon, 5-Mar-84 20:06:27 EST Article-I.D.: qubix.902 Posted: Mon Mar 5 20:06:27 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Mar-84 07:15:42 EST References: <5963@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: Qubix Graphic Systems, Saratoga, CA Lines: 52 >> Well I'm a male and I enjoyed Thendara House. As I read the > book I took no offense, but then maybe that was because the author > wasn't talking about me. Were you like one of the characters in > the book? Is that why you took offense? No, I guess I just take offense easily. In the same vein, I am unlike any character in any GOR book I have ever looked at, but also take offense at the plastic portrayals of people. The major difference between GOR and Thendra House simply seems to be the thrust of the novels: One creates an absolutely sexist society to revel in sado-mashochism, one creates an absolutely sexist society, to attempt to show that it is no different than our own. Both are such bad writing, they made me barf. > I though that Zimmer wrote > an excellent book portraying a clash of cultures. Keep in mind that > she isn't necessarily writing about our culture (although I'm not > so sure it doesn't fit in many cases). The plot was very well > written and really made me think about culture clashes and looking > beyond what most of us take for granted. (and i'm not just refering > to male-female relationships... i'm refering to thousands of > pseudo behaviors that society has created). It would help Marion Zimmer Bradely, if she ever read any NON-FICTION books on the same subject. Perhaps she might wake up from her fantasy long enough to realise that there are quite a few present day culture clashes, considerably more interesting than her own. More interesting because they are not totally centered around male-female relationships, and because they are REAL. (In Thendara House, not a man from either culture is presented as a loving, caring person; in NONE of her books, does any "good" male protagonist like the society he are living in. -- Perhaps if she (or you) read anything by Fernia about Islamic culture for instance, you might actually loosen up that feminist cultural bigotry that you have. > But I suppose that > if you were preoccupied with worrying about your male ego, you > might have missed that. This is an example of "feminist cultural bigotry". I dislike that preachy book, therefore I am "preoccupied with worrying about" my MALE ego..... Steven Maurer