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From: jad@lanl-a.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Some points to ponder
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Date: Wed, 21-Mar-84 16:01:42 EST
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Posted: Wed Mar 21 16:01:42 1984
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<'cause cbosgd!mark says I should>


Three somewhat related points and a flamette.

1) In the USA no one really has complete control over  their
bodies  -  if  so, then why don't the people in prisons just
leave to do as they like. Perhaps in an ideal  society  com-
plete  self-determination  is possible, but not (apparently)
the one in which I live... Leave us remember the person  who
wanted  to  starve  to death in a hospital, supported by the
medical staff thereof (i.e. with painkillers and the  like).
This leads us into point two:

2) Abortion does not involve JUST the woman who desires  the
abortion  - i.e.  we are not just discussing her rights only
but those of her doctor (and anyone else involved).  If  you
don't  believe this, tell me, how many women sucessfully and
safely perform their own abortions?

3)  Concerning  the  doctor's  rights,  consider  the  moral
dilemma  the  doctor faces. On the one hand the doctor might
be confronted with women who want the doctor to  save  their
premature  children (say 16 .. 24 weeks). On the other hand,
the doctor might be confronted with women who want abortions
at the same point in the pregnancy. All in all, this reader-
ship seems to ignore the doctor's plight - and as I've noted
before, I don't think many abortions are truly single-person
events.

Small flame:
Why do "pro-lifers" call "pro-choicers" abortionists...
Why do "pro-choicers" call "pro-lifers" anti-abortionists...
Neither "side" calls the other what it wishes to be called -
just emotional epithets instead. This name calling irks me.

Zozzles The Freep
A "pro-lifer" who wouldn't stop women from having abortions,
but isn't happy about it, either.
Grumble, grumble.
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