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From: kds@intelca.UUCP (Ken Shoemaker)
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Subject: Re: should universities explore the cutting edge?
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Date: Wed, 21-Mar-84 16:27:30 EST
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Posted: Wed Mar 21 16:27:30 1984
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Hey, this is a really great discussion, make me laugh, "state of the art?"
What do you mean?  As computer science goes, I would scarcely say that
the 68000 or the 16000 is "state of the art."  I have heard it said
that they are great implementations of architectural thinking that has
been around since the 60s.  Just because it is in a microprocessor does
not make it state of the art in an architectural sense.  When I think
of state of the art, I think of parallel architectures that solve
old problems in new ways, not just higher integration implementations
of the same old thing.  Of course if you are talking about semiconductor
technology.......

And another thing.....someone (excuse me, I didn't pay any attention to
who) mentioned that he wanted to know whether someone with experience
with a VAX was more employable than someone who used a 68000 running
Unix or an IBM/PC running Unix.  I notice that he didn't include the
VAX running Unix (was it just an oversight?) BUT I would think that
given these three as options, it could really scarcely make much
difference, the real differentiation is how they are used, and what
you want to do with your life!  If you want to be a site manager of
a large site, then perhaps working with the VAX as a system administrator/
operator type might help, but if you want to do things like compiler/
application development, or even real world type work, then really
you are using the computer for practice.  And the line really should
be drawn between lumping the VAX on one side, and the 68000/PC on
the other, not putting the VAX with the 68000...not that I'm trying
to defend the PC, but lets be real in terms of differences in the
systems.....hey, this was fun, can we do it again sometime?
-- 
Ken Shoemaker, Intel, Santa Clara, Ca.
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