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From: dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale)
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Subject: Re: First Summary of PC's in Education Survey
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Date: Sun, 18-Mar-84 13:42:45 EST
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Posted: Sun Mar 18 13:42:45 1984
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Anyone care to donate another VAX to Waterloo?

The rumour has a slight basis in truth, but it mostly wrong.  Waterloo
encourages manufacturers to give us hardware outright, or in exchange
for software, but most of it ends up being purchased.

Some statistics: watrose, watmath, watcgl, watdaisy, wateng, watdcsu
are all VAX 11/780's; there is another one running VMS which has no name.
Of those 7, watdcsu and the current watmath were obtained by a
buy-one-get-one-free donation from DEC.  The remaining 5 were purchased
at full price, less the standard discount that anyone in a university in
Ontario gets.  There are a few 750's around too - they were all purchased.

The Honeywell DPS8/49 called watbun got a new processor and some disks
last year courtesy of Honeywell.  IBM has been the biggest donor so far -
they've donated 3 4341's and (I think) about 50 IBM pc's.  But this wasn't
an outright gift; they got access to some software and had some research
done in return.  And most of this equipment was allocated to specific
groups of researchers, not the university in general.  The computing
centre owns another 3 4341's which were purchased.  Tektronix donated
a microprocessor development system to one of the labs.

As a smaller example, Able is giving us a pair of Ethernet boards for
Vaxes in return for a 4.2BSD device driver for them - not a bad deal
for Able.

Overall, I believe that most of the computer hardware around here was not
an outright donation, and the majority of it was purchased rather
than traded for.  The diversity of what's available is mostly the
result of a variety of groups each going off in their own direction,
rather than what someone decided to donate.

	Dave Martindale
	Computer Graphics Lab
	University of Waterloo