Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxb.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!ihuxb!alle From: alle@ihuxb.UUCP (Allen England) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Property (or Class Struggle? What Class Struggle?) Message-ID: <533@ihuxb.UUCP> Date: Fri, 2-Mar-84 09:46:38 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxb.533 Posted: Fri Mar 2 09:46:38 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Mar-84 11:02:31 EST References: <685@ihuxq.UUCP> <308@tty3b.UUCP>, <601@bbncca.ARPA>, <6448@cornell.UUCP> <312@tty3b.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 18 + > My point on the factory owner is quite simple. There are conflicting > interests in any workplace. There are the interests of the workers in > a safe working environment and good wages. And there > is the interest of the employer in profits. There is a zero-sum game > to be played out here, and the employers understand that quite well. > They attack unions, since unions tend to strengthen the workers bargaining > position. They attack health and safety legislation, since this forces > them to make investments which do not directly increase profits. And, > whenever possible, they replace labor with machinery, which doesn't form > unions or complain about unsafe workplaces. Come on Mike. If you really believe in "zero-sum game", then I contend you have little understanding of economics. It doesn't work that way and I challenge you to back up that contention. Allen England at AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL ihnp4!ihuxb!alle