Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site hou3c.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!ka From: ka@hou3c.UUCP (Kenneth Almquist) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: Suggestions for slight topic re-organization Message-ID: <334@hou3c.UUCP> Date: Mon, 27-Feb-84 12:37:05 EST Article-I.D.: hou3c.334 Posted: Mon Feb 27 12:37:05 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 28-Feb-84 07:12:01 EST References: <696@nsc.UUCP> <2613@alice.UUCP> <326@hou3c.UUCP> <1012@cbosgd.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 32 I wasn't too explicit in my previous message. In reply to Mark's questions: Suppose that a rename control message were added to 2.11. Now what do we do about (1) messages currently circulating around the net with the old name? When they reach a site that has received the control message, the group on the article is changed. (I know that fiddling with headers is a risky business.) (3) people with the old name in their .newsrc file? It is probably not possible to move articles that have already been installed in the spool directory to the new group. The old newsgroup could stay around for a couple of weeks after the rename control message was sent out, and then be removed with a rmgroup control message. (2) messages in the (new) spool dir containing the old name in the headers (which will be used for followups)? These would be mapped into the new newsgroup name, probably by inews. (Note that the mapping table need not grow indefinitely; the mapping could be deleted when the old newsgroup was deleted. (4) documentation that describes the old name? (5) people who "know" about the old name in their heads? These are problems. Adam's list tracks created and deleted newsgroups, so that people who rely on that document will have up to date information. I'm agree that a "rename" control message would not make renaming groups completely painless, but it would be a major help. Kenneth Almquist