Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles - ucb/nyu release 1.0; site acf4.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!cmcl2!acf4!solworth From: solworth@acf4.UUCP Newsgroups: net.lsi Subject: Re: we need an updated esim Message-ID: <35000001@acf4.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Mar-84 14:40:00 EST Article-I.D.: acf4.35000001 Posted: Wed Mar 14 14:40:00 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 21-Mar-84 03:15:49 EST References: <1153@rti.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 14 Nf-ID: #R:rti:-115300:acf4:35000001:000:654 Nf-From: acf4!solworth Mar 20 14:40:00 1984 The tools from Berkeley use an old version of the simulator written by Chris Terman now at MIT. A more accurate simulator, rsim is available from Chris directly, or can be obtained through the U. of Washington VLSI Consortium. The advantage of going to U of W is that the '.sim' formats are different, and U of Wash will give you (in addition to the Berkeley and MIT release) conversion programs to go between the two formats. Another simulator which is available is MOSSIM, developed by Randal Bryant, now at Caltech. This simulator requires a MAINSAIL liscence available for $250 to universities ($10K to others). Jon Solworth New York University