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From: cas@cvl.UUCP (Cliff Shaffer)
Newsgroups: net.consumers
Subject: Re: another sweepstakes (Cheeselovers == Carter & Van Peel?)
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Date: Mon, 5-Mar-84 18:17:14 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar  5 18:17:14 1984
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Add to the Carter & Van Peel empire "Gem Collectors International"
(or some name vaguely like that).  I got a similar sweepstakes offer
about 6-8 months ago and sent it in.  The drawing was for about new
years, and I was guarenteed to win at least a stone or two of some
sort.  I have not heard anything from them since then.  It was part
of an advertisement to join the gem collectors group.  I included a
letter saying I couldn't possibly join anything which included no real
information about the product.
   I plan to write a letter to the postal authorities soon about it all.
Of course I was expecting this to happen - I made copies of all the
forms because ...
   Well, this is not the first time I have dealt with Carter & Van Peel.
About a year ago, I responded to an add in Dial Magazine (the magazine
used by many PBS stations around the country to carry their listings -
I would have thought it to be a reliable place for ads, but not so)
for one of these cheap telephones.  After several months, a letter, and
calls to a permanently busy phone number, I sent a letter to the Better
Business Bureau which referred it to the Postal Inspecter.  I got the
phone soon after and called off the dogs.
   Since it won't cost you more than a stamp, I urge everyone to respond
to the Sweepstakes letters.  Then, we should stay in touch with each
other as to results and try to coordinate a letter campaign to the
Post office.  I would like to see these people shut down.

		Cliff Shaffer
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