Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpesch From: wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Personnal Testaments as Proofs Message-ID: <684@ihuxp.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Mar-84 16:48:54 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxp.684 Posted: Wed Mar 21 16:48:54 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 22-Mar-84 04:09:36 EST References: <6291@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 28 /***** uokvax:net.flame / pucc-h!aeq / 3:11 pm Mar 16, 1984 */ 2. The reason I continue to believe in God is that there is evidence that He does exist. He has changed me vastly. In the years I have been a Christian, I have been enabled (via prayer, the ultimate psychotherapy, and via the ministry of other people) to become much more fully human than I was, say, 10 years ago. The reasons for your personnal (in)sanity cannot be attributed as proof for the (non)existance of god. By your arguements, there is not a god, for though I do not believe in a god nor do I belong to a church, I have grown in spirit and in the philosophies that I believe in. I am a much more responsible person than I was a year ago, five years ago, and ten years ago, and yet this has nothing to do with god. Your psychological state is not an indication of the existance of mythical supreme beings. In fact, it has nothing to do with the existance of god or not. The only thing thast I might argue is that it is a proof that your god does not eixst, for how can any being that is wholly good create the pain, sorrow, and suffering (and other non-goods) that afflict this world. It couldn't come from good. Therefor, your god could not have created this world. And therefor, you're foolin' yourself. Walt Pesch AT&T Technologies ihnp4!ihuxp!wbpesch