Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxq.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxq!amigo2 From: amigo2@ihuxq.UUCP (John Hobson) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Prayer, efficacy of Message-ID: <788@ihuxq.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Mar-84 17:40:59 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxq.788 Posted: Mon Mar 19 17:40:59 1984 Date-Received: Tue, 20-Mar-84 02:03:05 EST References: <1346@ittvax.UUCP> <719@seismo.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 14 About Francis Galton's study on the efficacy of prayer, when he felt that the majority of prayers were being offered for the safety and well-being of the monarch (see the opening lines of the British national anthem: "God save our gracious queen/Long live our noble queen/God save the queen"), did he consider just how many prayers were being offered that "the old bastard would die"? And just how fervent were these respective prayers anyway. I know that Buddhists hold that prayers offered by rote (e.g., prayer-wheels) are efficatious, but both Jews and Christians look at the intentions of the pray-er. John Hobson AT&T Bell Labs--Naperville, IL ihnp4!ihuxq!amigo2