Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site zehntel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!zehntel!berry From: berry@zehntel.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: Re: Notesfile vs. USENET (flame) - (nf) Message-ID: <1342@zehntel.UUCP> Date: Tue, 28-Feb-84 04:41:12 EST Article-I.D.: zehntel.1342 Posted: Tue Feb 28 04:41:12 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Mar-84 16:35:24 EST Sender: berry@zehntel.UUCP Organization: Zehntel Inc., Walnut Creek, CA Lines: 46 #R:sdcrdcf:-84800:zinfandel:18300005:000:1836 zinfandel!berry Feb 21 08:13:00 1984 sdcrdcf!jlilien writes: "It seems to me that this whole business of Orphaned Responses from notes could be fixed... The Orphaned Response is put in because the subject line is not stored with the replies. ... Clearly, an extra field could be added to the response article's data structure to hold the subject,... This seems so easy an obvious, that I must be overlooking some- thing. Please fill me in." OK, I'll repeat myself a little. I fixed the 'Orphaned Response' problem (which is only a problem when interfacing with Usenet, BTW) at least as much as I could at a single site. I posted the fix to net.notes, but I might as well have sent it to /dev/null for all the thanks I got. An orphaned response is created in this way. A USENET article comes in to a site running notes, and gets put into the notes system as a 'Base note'. Some user of the notes system decides to respond ('post a followup') and creates a response, which in due course gets spit out into Usenet again. Now there are two news 'articles': the original note and the response. Somehow the response comes to another system running notes WITHOUT the original 'base note'. It gets inserted as an 'orphaned response' although the original subject is still with it. NOW, if a user at the second site responds to this note, the notes system obligingliy spits the new, second response out into USENET with the title 'Re: Orphaned Response - (nf)'. When one of these comes in, there is no way to ever reconstruct the title. What I fixed was to keep the title intact, rather than change it to 'Orphaned Response'. The fix is quite simple, involving only about 5 lines in the file 'newsinput.c'. I will be happy to send details to anyone interested. Berry Kercheval Zehntel Inc. (ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!berry) (415)932-6900