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From: hutch@dadla-b.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Re: logic
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Date: Fri, 29-Jul-83 14:16:53 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul 29 14:16:53 1983
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Continuing a discussion between myself and mARK bLOORE . . .

Well, mARK, the fact is that God DID sacrifice His Son.  This was not a
case of saying, "Son, just to make a more elegant creation, I am going
to kill you now"

The situation was more one of Jesus CHOOSING to die for that creation.
And don't forget that most Christians believe that Jesus is one PERSON
of a single God who has shown us THREE Persons.

One of the Apostles remarked about an argument very like your own.
What, said he, is it to you, if the potter decides to take some clay
and turn out a beautiful vase, and then uses some more of the same clay
to make a toilet?  Do you have the right to complain of the cruelty of
the potter when, after he has made a batch of vases and fired them,
that he should destroy the ones which cracked, or sagged in the kiln?
How then can you fault God, who has made it possible for us cracked
and saggy and highly imperfect (don't bore me by claiming to be
perfect or even remotely close to it) creations, to become perfect?


Or is it that you are so completely knowledgeable about the world and
about what is right and wrong, that you can judge God to be wrong in
His acts on the face of your own experience.   (Heavyhanded sarcasm)

What I challenge in all this is your claim that even if you did believe
in the Christian view of God, that you would turn from Him because you
could not accept His actions.   Would you similarly turn away from your
views on natural history and evolution because of the massive cruelty
inherent in the destruction of those thousands of species of dinosaur
when the asteroid fell?

Hutch