Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version Vortex 1.0 6/6/83; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!wivax!decvax!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP Newsgroups: net.general Subject: ARPA mail, etc. Message-ID: <71@vortex.UUCP> Date: Wed, 20-Jul-83 04:18:53 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.71 Posted: Wed Jul 20 04:18:53 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 21-Jul-83 20:17:46 EDT Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 56 There is no real "mystery" about the situation regarding ARPANET. The only persons who may directly make use of ARPANET facilities are those engaged in work for organizations who have contracts related to DoD or other U.S. government-sponsored/related work that involves the ARPANET or requires access to ARPANET-connected facilities. All mail gatewaying between ARPA and Usenet/UUCP is currently on an "unofficial" basis. The fact that mail gatewaying exists does not imply any more general access. To make use of FTP facilities, you must be logged onto a host that itself is directly on ARPANET. There are no magic FTP gateways to Usenet or to UUCP in general. There are two ways to get files that are available for "public" FTP'ing from ARPA: 1) If an ARPA site that also runs UUCP wanted to keep some of those files locally for the convenience of UUCP users, that would be their decision. 2) Even if (1) was not practical, there are some ARPANET people who would probably be willing to send off some files on a request basis as long as the requests didn't start getting too frequent. However, those are currently the only alternatives that exist. As for mail, I see mail gatewayed through Berkeley all the time. If an ARPA mailing list maintainer wishes to do so, he/she could add individual UUCP recipients to any list via Berkeley. However, Berkeley can only handle a "reasonable" amount of traffic, and as I mentioned earlier, all such traffic is "unofficial". In general, if you wish to send mail to an ARPANET destination, you should use the address form: ... !ucbvax!NAME@SITE You should ALWAYS include your EXACT return address in such messages; don't assume that the ARPA person will be able to figure out your address. Your return address will be of the form: [UUCP pathname relative to ucbvax]@BERKELEY where "[UUCP pathname relative to ucbvax]" would be: baringa!klattu to reach user "klattu" at site "baringa" (assuming that ucbvax's UUCP spoke directly to that of "baringa".) If there are any questions on these issues, please contact me directly. Thanks. --Lauren-- {decvax, ihnp4, harpo, ucbvax!lbl-csam, randvax}!vortex!lauren