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From: tbray@mprvaxa.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.general
Subject: VMS Newsgroup
Message-ID: <234@mprvaxa.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 11-Jul-83 15:47:25 EDT
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Posted: Mon Jul 11 15:47:25 1983
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Microtel Pacific Research hereby seconds the proposal for a net.vms
news group.

We have dual Vaxen, both 780's, one apiece VMS and 4.1x bsd.  We feel
that this situation cannot be that uncommon and that there is a large
potential for valuble VMS interchange on this network.

We LIKE both VMS and UNIX, and feel that each does a satisfactory
job of addressing a certain set of requirements.

Two topics that it might prove very worthwhile to discuss are:

 1. UNIX emulation on VMS. We are running the HCR UNITY package ( will post
    a review in a bit ).

 2. Cross-fertilization.  The following are just some of the ideas 
    we are working on, and we hope to have deliverables in a matter
    of months:

     - porting UUCP to native-mode vms (Using the DEC C compiler)
     - porting vi to native-mode vms   ( '' )
     - building a VMS-style lock manager for UNIX
     - building disks from which either VMS or UNIX can be booted.

As for the 'vms.silly' idea... What's wrong with arguing the relative 
merits of VMS and UNIX?  We spend hours doing it and enjoy it
hugely.

				Tim Bray, Microtel Pacific Research

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