Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site wateng.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdaisy!wateng!padpowell From: padpowell@wateng.UUCP (PAD Powell[Admin]) Newsgroups: net.usenix Subject: Re: On the floor of summer USENIX 83 Message-ID: <183@wateng.UUCP> Date: Fri, 22-Jul-83 11:05:47 EDT Article-I.D.: wateng.183 Posted: Fri Jul 22 11:05:47 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 23-Jul-83 00:21:10 EDT References: <18458@wivax.UUCP> Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 12 Vicious? Nasty? Come on people!!! You clearly have not been to any sort of contract negotiations with some of the big boys like IBM, Univac, etc. At least the arguments were technical in nature, and to a certain extent attacking a philosophical/technocratic bias. Wait until you get down to the "Where the hell is that junk you promised us? We paid real money for it, and you guilty-of-incestuous-and-buggery-offsprings have sat on this, we are 6 months/years/decades behind schedule, and now you tell us we have to buy a complete new hardware suite to run the thing?" Persons who have lived with IBM will remember several occaisions when the egg was on their faces... and red ink was the order of the day. Patrick ("I think that Bob Pike has heard a lot worse") Powell