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From: lauren@vortex.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.general
Subject: ARPA mail, etc.
Message-ID: <71@vortex.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 20-Jul-83 04:18:53 EDT
Article-I.D.: vortex.71
Posted: Wed Jul 20 04:18:53 1983
Date-Received: Thu, 21-Jul-83 20:17:46 EDT
Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles
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There is no real "mystery" about the situation regarding ARPANET.  

The only persons who may directly make use of ARPANET facilities
are those engaged in work for organizations who have contracts
related to DoD or other U.S. government-sponsored/related work that
involves the ARPANET or requires access to ARPANET-connected
facilities.  

All mail gatewaying between ARPA and Usenet/UUCP is currently
on an "unofficial" basis.  The fact that mail gatewaying exists
does not imply any more general access.  To make use of
FTP facilities, you must be logged onto a host that itself
is directly on ARPANET.  There are no magic FTP gateways to Usenet
or to UUCP in general.  There are two ways to get files
that are available for "public" FTP'ing from ARPA:

1) If an ARPA site that also runs UUCP wanted to keep some of those
   files locally for the convenience of UUCP users, that would
   be their decision.

2) Even if (1) was not practical, there are some ARPANET people who 
   would probably be willing to send off some files on a request
   basis as long as the requests didn't start getting too frequent.

However, those are currently the only alternatives that exist.

As for mail, I see mail gatewayed through Berkeley all the time.
If an ARPA mailing list maintainer wishes to do so, he/she could
add individual UUCP recipients to any list via Berkeley.  
However, Berkeley can only handle a "reasonable" amount of 
traffic, and as I mentioned earlier, all such traffic is "unofficial".

In general, if you wish to send mail to an ARPANET destination,
you should use the address form:

	... !ucbvax!NAME@SITE

You should ALWAYS include your EXACT return address in such messages;
don't assume that the ARPA person will be able to figure out your
address.  Your return address will be of the form:

	[UUCP pathname relative to ucbvax]@BERKELEY

where "[UUCP pathname relative to ucbvax]" would be:

	baringa!klattu

to reach user "klattu" at site "baringa" (assuming that ucbvax's
UUCP spoke directly to that of "baringa".)

If there are any questions on these issues, please contact
me directly.  Thanks.

--Lauren--

{decvax, ihnp4, harpo, ucbvax!lbl-csam, randvax}!vortex!lauren