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Subject: Re: Born Again Condescension - (nf)
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Date: Fri, 22-Jul-83 23:42:29 EDT
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parsec!holt    Jul 21 17:33:00 1983

Tim and Pamela:

    It is indeed refreshing to see two well written articles which
point to separate but very real problems with christianity.  I think
that Pamela's article deals with the direct results of people 
subconsciencely (sp?) dealing with the kind of god described by Tim.
A two-faced god, who on one hand preaches about love, and on the
other promises hell and damnation if you don't "believe" in him is
not for me.  Why would a great omnipotent being care one tiny iota 
whether I, a mere mite upon the face of this planet acknowledge his 
greatness???   Similarly, why would he want to be worshipped rather
than be admired as a role model or some such thing.  Your other points
showing the ambiguities between his supposed compassion and all of
the starving people in the world are also well taken.  I JUST HOPE
HE STEPS IN AND STOPS ICBMS IN FLIGHT!!!  Christianity is obviously
the result of human minds over many generations and is meant to be an 
institution for gathering power, like any other.  Just watch TV preachers
and see if that's not true...
    Of more concern than a wrathful god is the problem discussed by Pamela.
People acting on behalf of "GOD" have done atrocious things throughout
the centuries, and mass media religion sure has potential for
more of the same.  As a rule I can't stand watching those shows, but the
other day I turned on the 700 club.  It was pure politics, all in the name
of "GOD", mind you.  Kill commies.  Don't kill fetuses (let the mothers die-
it's god's will).  Get those "humanists" out of our schools!  Let's make
America a "God Fearing" country again......  ("god fearing"?? that says 
something right there).  It seems to me that these people conveniently forget
that this country was created in large part due to the desire for religious
freedom on the part of the colonists.
    I say let's keep it free.  

	Just a little support from the right.....


				Dave Holt
				{allegra,ihnp4,uiucdcs}!parsec!holt

P.S.  	We should stop supporting the tobacco industry with government
	subsidies. If people want to kill themselves with tobacco,
	it's ok with me, I just don't want to pay for it.  I also
	don't like breathing their excess smoke.
	( Well,........ I don't agree with you on everything.)