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Date: Tue, 28-Jun-83 14:52:23 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jun 28 14:52:23 1983
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	okay, you get the picture? the Top brass in the RC Church say one thing,
	the middle brass say another, and at the grass roots level an awful
	lot of people wish that there had never been a Vatican Council 2 so
	they could go back to doing things 'the old way'.

	The question was HOW DO YOU CONVINCE THE GRASS ROOTS FOLK THAT HATING
	PROTESTANTS IS A BAD THING WHEN FOR MANY YEARS IT WAS A GOOD THING?

	I dont know. You get lost in the beuracracy as you go further up the
	Catholic Hierarchy. You dont have to petition for new reforms -- the
	old ones havenet even taken effect yet.

Two things, Laura, from a Catholic.
1)
	Something a priest said once to a young, definately post-VaticanII
	audience:  ``It has been a relief not having to sneak behind the
	bushes so the old ladies wouldn't see me when I went over to see
	Pastor ~~~~~ (the town's Lutheran pastor).''

2)
	My personal objections to VII are based in what it didn't do.  It
	really didn't seem to end intolerance.  Look at the people who
	are beng condemned for adhering to the Latin Mass.  I disagree
	with them, but I think that there ought to be room for them in
	the Church.  And the new church architecture requirements! I
	haven't the time to go into them, but the new Roman C churches
	are being built like ampitheaters with a variety of rather
	strict requirements, very few of which seem any more solidly
	grounded than the old requirements that churches be built to
	a cruciform plan.  Also, congregatons are encouraged to tear
	down or ``modernize'' their existing churches.  My heart breaks
	at the waste, especially since many older structures couldn't
	be duplicated at any cost today.
	  This is a plea for tolerance -- of others, and of our yesterdays.
	There are a few things that one should not be tolerant of, but they
	are few and VERY far between.

					Mark Terribile