Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site rabbit.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!mhuxa!mhuxi!mhuxt!eagle!alice!rabbit!ark From: ark@rabbit.UUCP Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Re: Safety Pilots - (nf) Message-ID: <1698@rabbit.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Jul-83 23:35:40 EDT Article-I.D.: rabbit.1698 Posted: Mon Jul 18 23:35:40 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 20-Jul-83 10:48:30 EDT References: <1332@hp-pcd.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 32 I believe that the safety pilot is second in command. References: FAR 61.51.c.3: A pilot may log as second in command all flight time during which he acts as second in command of an aircraft on which more than one pilot is required under the type certification of the aircraft, or the regulations under which the flight is conducted. FAR 91.21.b: No person may operate a civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight unless -- 1. An appropriately rated pilot occupies the other control seat as a safety pilot; 2. The safety pilot has adequate vision forward and to each side of the aircraft, or a competent observer in the aircraft adequately supplements the vision of the safety pilot; and 3. Except in the case of lighter-than-air aircraft, that aircraft is equipped with fully functioning dual controls. However, simulated instrument flight may be conducted in a single-engine airplane, equipped with a single, functioning, throwover control wheel, in place of fixed, dual controls of the elevator and ailerons, when -- i. The safety pilot has determined that the flight can be conducted safely; and ii. The person manipmlating the controls has at least a private pilot certificate with appropriate category and class ratings. FAR 91.21.b is the only place I have found in the FARs that talks about safety pilot qualifications at all. I think it's pretty clear from the above statements that the safety pilot is NOT pilot in command.