Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!hocda!spanky!burl!sb1!sb6!emory!msdc!itm!bob From: bob@itm.UUCP Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: To Tim Maroney Message-ID: <1026@itm.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Jul-83 20:01:42 EDT Article-I.D.: itm.1026 Posted: Thu Jul 14 20:01:42 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Jul-83 12:51:29 EDT Lines: 78 To: Darrell Plank, I Know you and Tim misunderstood what I was trying to convey. But it is not your fault, but it is mine. God owes no man an explanation for the things he does. It is impossible to find these things out unless God choses to reveal His reasons for doing things. You said, "Since God is beyond our limited understanding don't even try to understand." Remember thats your conclusion of what I said. God expects us to use our reasoning facilities. That is what faith in God is based upon. You also stated: "If there is a God, He gave me a brain to use. Why are you asking me to put it on idle?" No one has asked you to stop your thinking processes. God's ways are literally past finding out. If God wanted man to know His every reason for doing things He would have spelled it out. The problem is an unregenerated mind trying to find out the ways of God before he will except God. God gave us enough information to bring our hearts and minds back to Him. The trouble with man is he is always looking for a sign. Even if someone were raised from the dead man still will not believe. The nation of Israel saw many signs and wonders as God showed Himself as El Shaddai(the all powerful). They saw the twelve plagues on Egypt, the pillar of fire by night, the pillar of cloud by day, the parting of the Red Sea, the drowning of the Egyptian Army, etc. etc. and still they refused to believe. The prophets of old did many miracles and still they refused to believe. Even when Jesus entered time according to scripture. The nations of the world still sought to kill Him and those who believed on Him. So it is today. Though many signs and miracles are performed in Jesus' name you still will not believe. There is one coming who will come in his own name and he the nations of the world will follow to there destruction. He is the anti-christ. He will come performing miracles and giving signs that will,if possible,deceive even the very elect. also you said: "Why didn't he just make one(Ark) up and hand it to Noah?" God set apart one hundred and twenty years for man to repent(turn) from there wicked ways. The building of the ark was a sign to them of God's coming judgment upon them if they did not turn from their wicked ways. During this 120yrs.,Noah preached to them righteousness and warned them of the coming judgment. Man chose to ignore the warning and to mock Noah. Noah by faith in what God told him, built the ark, when rain and floods were never heard of. Noah believed God. God even now is warning the world of a coming judgment. God said "as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the last days. They ate, they drank, they married, they built, until Noah entered the ark and the rains came and the floods carried them away." Note this "That in the last days will come scoffers saying, 'Where is the promise of His coming?'" As they mocked Noah so shall they mock those followers of Jesus who preach the coming judgment. That is until they are carried away in judgment. I tell you now that it is even at the door as you are reading this. you also stated that: "I could have "faith" that Rev. Moon is a prophet." Here you are proposing to put your mind on idle. Rev Moon, as well as many others in the last 10 yrs., has claimed to be the messiah. God warned that in the last days many will come saying "I am He" (referring to the messiah). The key, my friend, is the middle east. Take a good look to what is happening to Israel. Israel will defeat the Arabs time and time again. They are God's people. Any nation that has dared to pick on the nation of Israel was wiped out. That is why Israel is wiping out the nations before them. Israel is outnumbered by a great deal, but they have pushed their enemys back even as to take part of their country(Egyptians sinai etc.) Sorry this is so long. Just think about it. Bob Langdon itm!-Atlanta Ga. msdc!itm!bob