Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!hocda!spanky!burl!duke!unc!tim From: tim@unc.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Boy, am I catching it..... Message-ID: <5528@unc.UUCP> Date: Fri, 8-Jul-83 23:38:16 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.5528 Posted: Fri Jul 8 23:38:16 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 9-Jul-83 19:36:24 EDT References: ihuxi.490 Lines: 65 Here's a rather interesting set of statements from Ray Jender. This is my original article: ############################################################# I think it's pretty disgusting when the "Faggots Pride Week" parade gets coverage on 1/2 of page 2 of the city paper, and a victory like the Vashchenko' has to settle for page 10.... Wondering what this world's coming to... Ray Jender ihuxi!rcj1 ############################################################# Why all the fuss about the use of the word "Faggots"? It can be found in most dictionaries.. So can "nigger", Ray, and I'll bet you find "fucker" in there too. In any case, it is not the word that makes people mad. It is the intolerant, narrow-minded, and, yes, just plain imbecilic attitudes belied by your posting which upsets us. I thought this was net.flame? If I want to use this word I'll use it. Other people use words much more degrading on this net then faggot. Such as? I haven't heard anyone called nigger, Christ-killer, motherfucker, turd-head, and so on, on this group or any other. Maybe you could provide us with some examples, or does just saying it make it so? People are really getting upset at my using this word when the jest of my article went completely over there [sic] heads... Hey, that's some pretty funny stuff there, Ray! I nearly bust a gut laughing! Why, I haven't laughed so hard since my last Klan meeting! Perhaps your jest should have gone to net.jokes instead. Certainly that would be the proper resting place for your attitudes. Possibly, in future articles I may change to the word "Queer", but for now you'll have to settle for 'el faggot'... Well now, I think that's mighty big of you to consider changing like that. Of course, you do know that most of the people who react as virulently as you to the presence of homosexuals have grave doubts about their own masculinity, and feel obligated to prove their macho- hood by primate dominance rituals such as the one you have demonstrated for us, namely the slinging of shit. (I'm serious; that's one major way primates show dominance. Humans transcend the ape in their ability to use figurative rather than literal feces.) How many gays have you heard of going into heterosexual bars and swinging away with a baseball bat? When a heterosexual does this to gays, he is really swinging at himself, at his own homosexual demons. Every person has elements of bisexuality in them. Some can't live with this, and prove themselves the true "faggots" by taking their inability to cope out on others. Grow up, Ray. ______________________________________ The overworked keyboard of Tim Maroney duke!unc!tim (USENET) tim.unc@udel-relay (ARPA) The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill