Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site watdaisy.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watdaisy!cbostrum From: cbostrum@watdaisy.UUCP (Calvin Bruce Ostrum) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Amorous Deceptions Message-ID: <239@watdaisy.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Jul-83 03:07:34 EDT Article-I.D.: watdaisy.239 Posted: Sat Jul 30 03:07:34 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Jul-83 04:52:21 EDT Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 36 I both agree and disagree with Glenn Reid on the use of "lying to pick up MOTOS". First of all, the terms "picking up" and "MOTOS" I find offensive and inaccurate, but we all have the correct idea correctly in mind, I hope. The other term is "lying"; we all believe lying is bad, generally, but are the cases he recommends really lying, or do they essentially involve lying? Re "Feigning interest" in heritage: even if one is truly uninterested in heritage in general, the fact that you are interested in that person might very well make his heritage more interesting to you, no? If you are truly interested in the person, spending time around him should be valued by you, even if the activity you are mutually engaged in doesnt have an extreme value to you on its own. Not only that, but you may actually develop a new interest that, in time, will take own a value for you in its own right. So I do not see anything wrong with expressing a polite interest in heritage in this case, and I do not consider it feigning. On the other hand, I consider it both stupid and dishonourable to truly feign an interest, independent of the considerations I outlined above. Re "accidentally" being in the "right place": if someone attracts you I dont see why you cant arrange to "bump into him" if that increases your chances of getting to know him. However, lying about your reasons for being there is another issue, but isnt it easy to avoid that topic, or create another *perfectly honest* reason? (true example: Someone I found attractive always sat one night a week in a particular spot in the cafeteria. I arranged, conveniently and honestly, to eat there around that time.) Again, I feel this sort of thing can be done without lying, and also that it *should* be done without lying. One final comment on "interesting": almost everything is interesting, and it is largely force of circumstance that produces the specific pattern of interests that we all have. Remember this when you meet a MOTOS who has some special interests that you have never really investigated. Calvin Bruce Ostrum, Computer Science, University of Waterloo ...{decvax,allegra,utzoo}!watmath!watdaisy!cbostrum