Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!hogpc!houxm!hocda!spanky!burl!duke!mcnc!ncsu!fostel From: fostel@ncsu.UUCP Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: RE:DEC Marketing Strategy Message-ID: <2259@ncsu.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Aug-83 10:29:23 EDT Article-I.D.: ncsu.2259 Posted: Wed Aug 3 10:29:23 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Aug-83 03:27:55 EDT Lines: 27 All this vile critcism of DEC! Blasphemy if you ask me. (Yeah no one did.) If you look at history, DEC is simply acting as they always have. Did the PDP-11 originally come with lots of neat software and a stunning OS? The PDP-10? Even VAX, (apologies to VMS lovers) did not come complete with what we now use on it. By and large, DEC builds iron, and it is usually a good high carbon variety and we buy it and then do something with it. Can you name another micro manufacturer who released their new machine complete with enviable software existing? Have DEC machines ever had the same zzzzzip as others? E.g. PDP-10 vs S/370, or VAX/780 vs almost any other "super-mini". Well, were we just stupid all those years getting stuff from DEC? Someone said it was ludicrous that DEC had O-N-L-Y 10 megs of hard disk. Wish I had that on my own system -- of recent vintage. What does seem a bit silly to me is that they did not use the 11/70 chips I keep hereing about. But maybe they are not up to snuff yet. Also seems strange that all the PDP-11 software is not on the machine. Maybe it will be soon. Recall, that DEC has never been an eager beaver as far as trying to capture and corner markets. They just keep on keeping on with modest goals and enviable stability. Do you really want to see them dragged the hurley-burley with all the others? (And by the way, seems a lot of folks are willing to buy new micros that until a lot of recent effort had ZERO software.) Your expectations are too high too soon. ----GaryFostel----