Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umcp-cs!aplvax!ded From: ded@aplvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Sickning, sickning, sickning... Message-ID: <151@aplvax.UUCP> Date: Fri, 1-Jul-83 09:57:06 EDT Article-I.D.: aplvax.151 Posted: Fri Jul 1 09:57:06 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 2-Jul-83 22:48:30 EDT Lines: 25 I'm responding to the response to the response where OZ sez: "all computer people don't HAVE to be educated, intelligent people," and goes on to prove it in his letter. Pretty clever way to make a point, I'd say. Actually, I agree with much of what OZ said. What I object to is his inference that anti-homosexuals like the infamous Ray are uneducated and stupid. That is just name-calling and is no different than Ray calling gays "faggots." Educated, intelligent people can be wrong (as anyone who reads this network can attest). What seems to happen with this issue (as with so many others) is that emotions and gut-reactions wreak a frontal lobotomy on any sort of intelligent discussion. So far the reaction to Ray's remarks has ranged from the hysterical, "let's kill the bastard", to the more thoughtful, "let's torture him first." Yet he never advocating persecuting anyone. For all we know, Ray may be revulsed by the gay community, but in no way wants to enforce his feelings with persecutory laws. Thus far, his only crime is name-calling -- a guilt we all share. Frankly, I doubt if we'll ever hear from the scumbag again, considering our reaction to his first foray. Maybe if we cool the rhetoric we can get something going here. A one-sided discussion is merely a diatribe, serving no one. Don Davis JHU/APL ...decvax!harpo!seismo!umcp-cs!aplvax!ded