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From: tim@unc.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Re: Boy, am I catching it.....
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Date: Fri, 8-Jul-83 23:38:16 EDT
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Posted: Fri Jul  8 23:38:16 1983
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Here's a rather interesting set of statements from Ray Jender.

        This is my original article:
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        I think it's pretty disgusting when the "Faggots Pride
        Week" parade gets coverage on 1/2 of page 2 of the
        city paper, and a victory like the Vashchenko' has to
        settle for page 10....

                Wondering what this world's coming
                to...  Ray Jender ihuxi!rcj1

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        Why all the fuss about the use of the word "Faggots"?
        It can be found in most dictionaries..

So can "nigger", Ray, and I'll bet you find "fucker" in there too.  In
any case, it is not the word that makes people mad.  It is the
intolerant, narrow-minded, and, yes, just plain imbecilic attitudes
belied by your posting which upsets us.

        I thought this was net.flame?  If I want to use this
        word I'll use it.  Other people use words much more
        degrading on this net then faggot.

Such as?  I haven't heard anyone called nigger, Christ-killer,
motherfucker, turd-head, and so on, on this group or any other.  Maybe
you could provide us with some examples, or does just saying it make
it so?

        People are really getting upset at my using this word
        when the jest of my article went completely over there
        [sic] heads...

Hey, that's some pretty funny stuff there, Ray!  I nearly bust a gut
laughing!  Why, I haven't laughed so hard since my last Klan meeting!
Perhaps your jest should have gone to net.jokes instead.  Certainly
that would be the proper resting place for your attitudes.

        Possibly, in future articles I may change to the word
        "Queer", but for now you'll have to settle for 'el faggot'...

Well now, I think that's mighty big of you to consider changing like
that.  Of course, you do know that most of the people who react as
virulently as you to the presence of homosexuals have grave doubts
about their own masculinity, and feel obligated to prove their macho-
hood by primate dominance rituals such as the one you have
demonstrated for us, namely the slinging of shit.  (I'm serious;
that's one major way primates show dominance.  Humans transcend the
ape in their ability to use figurative rather than literal feces.)

How many gays have you heard of going into heterosexual bars and
swinging away with a baseball bat?  When a heterosexual does this to
gays, he is really swinging at himself, at his own homosexual demons.
Every person has elements of bisexuality in them.  Some can't live
with this, and prove themselves the true "faggots" by taking their
inability to cope out on others.  Grow up, Ray.

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