From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!hou5f!ariel!houti!trc Newsgroups: net.micro Title: Annoying noise on C64 screen Article-I.D.: houti.213 Posted: Wed Feb 16 11:04:44 1983 Received: Sun Feb 20 08:39:39 1983 I finally got to see a C64 in person last night, and I was generally impressed. However, one feature of the 64 that really bothered me, and which could ruin it as a game machine, was the large amount of screen noise generated when running a program that accesses the video chip. This can be made invisible by using a white background, and perhaps it can be gotten rid of by only accessing the chip during the vertical retrace (?? owners - any experience?). At least accessing the graphics RAM doesnt seem to cause noise (as it did on the old PETs, if I recall correctly). I plan to get one, in any case. Its still a better machine in most ways than an Apple, which I currently own. (Personal opinion - based on what I want in a machine - so douse your jets!) Tom Craver houti!trc PS: anyone know if I can order the Programmers Ref Manual direct from Commodore? The store didnt know about the manual.