From: utzoo!decvax!decwrl!amd70!eager Newsgroups: net.misc Title: Re: A way to get out of SocSec?! Article-I.D.: amd70.1380 Posted: Fri Feb 4 17:32:37 1983 Received: Sun Feb 6 01:02:05 1983 References: houti.205 Self employed people must still pay Social Security. They file a 1040-SE with their income tax return. FICA is paid at about 150% of the normal employee rate (the full employee rate plus half the employer rate). That is something like 9-10%. Harry Brown's "How I Found Freedom in and Unfree World" is correct in what it states: when you hire someone as a contractor you are not obligated to pay FICA to the Feds, nor to withhold FICA or income tax. You have a lot less headaches & paperwork. But FICA still gets paid. Government employees (at the moment) and people covered by the Railroad Retirement Fund are exempt from SSS. I have been told that the IRS collects FICA from self-employed persons and forwards the money and info to the Social Security Administration. Failure to file the 1040-SE is not income tax evasion (as I understand it). The SSA will follow up in its own good time, if it does indeed follow up. I file my 1040-SE like a good boy, and hate to see that 10% come off the top. -- Mike Eager @ AMD