From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!rah Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Christians from birth Article-I.D.: npoiv.1930 Posted: Tue Feb 8 22:36:06 1983 Received: Fri Feb 11 07:48:43 1983 References: ihuxb.217 harpo.1372 I agree with Carl J. Hoffmann that a confession (what I called a conversion) is required, since that is in fact one of the teachings of Jesus and by definition a Christian is a follower of Jesus's teachings. (Not a perfect follower, mind you) I think that we are having the same problem with "Christian" that existed with the term "gentleman" in english. The term is being used both to describe a particular manner of acting, as when I define a Christian, and also as a general term of approval, i.e. That was a Christian thing to do. Rich Hammond System going down, will continue later.