From: utzoo!decvax!yale-com!kaufman Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Title: Re: Luke and his struggle against the Dark Side Article-I.D.: yale-com.822 Posted: Mon Feb 7 09:59:00 1983 Received: Wed Feb 9 01:35:49 1983 References: sri-unix.4668 Sorry to say this, but - wrong! Luke lost his battle in the Dark cavern. My evidence: when Yoda is trying to convince Luke not to leave, he says "remember your failure in the cave" (or something close to it). Luke responded with violence to a threat, which is not the way of a Jedi. David Kaufman