From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!npois!cbosgd!mark Newsgroups: net.news,net.mail Title: Re: The USENET corporation, a whole new way to run usenet Article-I.D.: cbosgd.2941 Posted: Fri Jan 7 11:30:23 1983 Received: Sat Jan 8 06:14:39 1983 Reply-To: mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) References: mcnc.1452 Actually, I think Tom is being overly negative. CSNET could support netnews on top of CSNET mail, because netnews can easily use mail as a transport mechanism (using sendnews and uurec). The main reason why it isn't being done right now, as I understand it, is that the phone bills are paid from some overhead source (rather than by the sites receiving the news) and CSNET can't afford to pay for that kind of volume. Presumably when everybody pulls their own share it will be feasable. However, I don't see CSNET taking an active part in USENET in the future, primarily because I have seen little or no interest in USENET among the CSNET organizers. Marvin Solomon seems interested but in a low priority sense (and he certainly doesn't have time to do much by himself.) My impression is that the rest of the committee totally ignores USENET. This situation could, of course, change at any time in the future. As to the particular software, I'm not really familiar with MMDF or PhoneNet, I just assume that ANYTHING has to be better than UUCP. >From what I've heard, however, PhoneNet software has trouble with the heavy loads generated by USENET. What I suppose we really need is for someone to implement TCP/IP over dialup phone lines (or at least some reasonable subset of it assuming a dialer or a multiplexed connection over one or more dialups or some such thing.) Mark Horton