From: utzoo!decvax!yale-com!brunix!mjb Newsgroups: net.bugs.4bsd Title: Re: csh jobs/tostop bug Article-I.D.: brunix.1254 Posted: Tue Jan 18 01:09:52 1983 Received: Thu Jan 20 02:06:19 1983 References: sdcarl.4253 >From sdcarl.4253: given the following command line cmd & stty tostop & wait ; fg ``cmd'' produces output and takes a minute or so to produce it, therefore the stty exits successfully before it. WRONG. The man pages for "jobs" clearly states: If a process which is not in the process group of the terminal attempts to change the terminals mode, the process group of that process is sent a SIGTTOU signal, causing the process group to stop. Csh fires up background processes with their own process groups, thus the stty will not be in the process group of the terminal and will be stopped before setting tostop. ``cmd'' is therefore never stopped. Not afraid to read the documentation, mike braca {decvax,vax135}!brunix!mjb