From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!cbosgd!mark Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.general Title: on the fate of the newsgroup class net.all Article-I.D.: cbosgd.3325 Posted: Wed Mar 23 13:29:58 1983 Received: Thu Mar 24 20:28:15 1983 It has come to my attention that there are a large number of net sites in Europe that have turned off net.general, because they feel that the content of net.general is aimed at the USA. Now that USENET reaches overseas, it appears that we need to take a fresh look at our network class heirarchy. Currently we have net.all (goes everywhere) nj.all (for example, only in New Jersey) ho.all (only within Holmdel, New Jersey) This example is slightly artificial, because there is nothing in the cit of Holmdel for USENET purposes except the Bell Labs building, but it gets the point across. We don't have a nationwide or worldwide class of newsgroups. I think it's time to create a new class called world.all, which goes everywhere in the world. We also need a usa.all for nationwide news. (I would like to hear whether Canada wants USA based news - if they do, it could easily be called na.all for North America.) At that point, we could close down net.all, replacing each newsgroup with a version in world.all or {usa,na}.all, as appropriate. The advantage to this change would be that people would be more aware of where their news is going, and would have more control over it. The disadvantage is that such a change would be monumental in scope and might be downright impossible to carry out. Once upon a time, back in the early days of USENET, we renamed NET.ALL as net.all, and it was no problem. But the net has grown immensely since then, and everyone ran A news. It was easy to change a system over with A news, since all the user subscriptions were in a central file. Code could be fixed to ignore case. And traffic volume was low, so articles that were in the net on flag day weren't a problem. It can be done. But it will require some special purpose software that converts newsgroup names on the fly. And it will require a lot of cooperation on the network. The alternative is to grandfather the name net.all in to mean North America (or the USA or whatever) and add a world.all class which will also go overseas. The disadvantage to this is that Europe would miss out on all of the net.all newsgroups. (Right now they're only getting a few anyway, due to a less-than-wonderful dialup overseas phone link. We're looking for a better link, but so far don't have one.) Comments on net.news.group are welcome. Mark Horton