From: utzoo!decvax!yale-com!brunix!jss Newsgroups: net.nlang Title: Re: juggernaut Article-I.D.: brunix.1307 Posted: Wed Jan 26 23:48:40 1983 Received: Sun Jan 30 08:45:29 1983 References: cires.1977 according to my dictionary (the big 2nd ed) the followers of Jagganath did NOT throw themselves under the wheels of the cart, which would have been a sacrilege. they have 'bizarre' coming from the Basque word for beard, implying 'manly' i wonder if that's a value judgement...