From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!hou5f!ariel!houti!lime!we13!plw Newsgroups: net.women Title: Re: There is nothing wrong with Abortion Article-I.D.: we13.393 Posted: Sat Feb 5 17:39:56 1983 Received: Sun Feb 6 06:42:17 1983 References: watmath.4470 HORSE-FEATHERS!!! To say that an entity must be self-conscious of its own existance to have a right to life is absurd at best. How do you determine that any entity is aware of its existance - 'I think, therefore I am'? Prove to me that you are aware of your own existance. It should be interesting. The arguments for abortion that say that a handicapped child should be aborted (quality of life arguments) are the most selfish ones I've heard. They are obviously looking at that life from their own point of view. My youngest brother-in-law died at the age of 12 years after his parents were told he wouldn't live 6 months. He was a multiple-handicap - cerebral palsy, heart defects, and brain damaged. He never learned to crawl, talk, or do anything for himself. I doubt if he was ever aware of his own existance, and I doubt if he knew how pitiful that existance was from our point of view. But he was one of the happiest children I knew. He certainly was aware of other people's existance. As far as abortion for any reason goes, let's get one thing straight right from the start: Sex(ual intercourse) causes babies If this was drummed into people from early childhood, the abortion rate would go down. Recreational sex is a sign of the hedonistic, self-centered times we live in. The 'Me first', post-war generation making itself known. I can't say that the *only* purpose of sex is procreation, but I also can't say that just because it feels good, its primary purpose is enjoyment. I don't know of any mammal that has sex for fun other than the 'superior intelligent' homo sapiens. I've seen many requests for sex education, but none for birth-control education. There are many methods for birth control ranging from abstinance to sterilization with varying degrees of effectiveness and all of which have side effects of one form or another. (Maybe we shouldn't fool with Mother Nature!) Why is it people are always wondering how to close the barn door after the horse is gone? Burners on 'pilot', please Pete Wilson ...we13!plw