From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!presby!burdvax!puder Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Title: Re:? Article-I.D.: burdvax.565 Posted: Tue Feb 15 14:46:20 1983 Received: Sun Feb 20 12:35:34 1983 References: wivax.6733 processes are not responsive to signals because they are not there. They show up in ps output because some action is still pending regarding them. Examples of this are: output from the process that is still buffered, parent processes that have not yet been signalled that the process has exited. The output buffer can be cleared by doing (stty raw; stty -raw) > /dev/ttyXX (at least one of entering/leaving raw mode clears the tty buffer). Others reading this can probably tell of other details. Karl Puder burdvax!puder SDC-aBC, R & D Paoli, Pa. (215)648-7555