From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!seismo!presby!aron Newsgroups: net.religion Title: Re: Provoked to jealousy Article-I.D.: presby.182 Posted: Mon Feb 14 10:18:48 1983 Received: Wed Feb 16 07:24:32 1983 References: sdcsvax.10 (1)What the words "the law is forever" mean is not at all clear to me. Both Christians and Jews seem to interpret this to fit their own views. All Christians and some Jews argue that the laws of animal sacrifice are no longer valid. Why not, if "the law is forever"? (2)Very few Jewish groups get rid of the notion of the Messiah. The question is who or what the Messiah is. You can't be Jewish and say he is Jesus (this was not true at the very beginnings of Christianity). As a change of pace, here's something to think about. Someone once explained the difference between Judaism and Christianity as follows: You can deny everything and still be a Jew. It is only when you make certain affirmations (such as Jesus is the Son of God) that a Jew can no longer be called a Jew*. On the other hand to be a Christian you must make certain affirmations. You are no longer a Christian when you deny these affirmations. How about some comments on this statement as a basis for discussing the differences between Judaism and Christianity? aron shtull-trauring *this is not true in the strictly legal(Jewish) sense. Once a Jew always a Jew for the purposes of Jewish law. The sense meant here is being "outside" the Jewish community.