From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npoiv!alice!rabbit!jj Newsgroups: net.politics Title: Re: Socialism Article-I.D.: rabbit.1162 Posted: Thu Feb 24 12:58:14 1983 Received: Fri Feb 25 05:00:41 1983 References: mhuxt.1125 <262@inuxd.UUCP> mhb5b.136 I suggest that those of you who espouse socialism, AND those of you who espouse unrestrained capitalism without controls (especially considering somelabor regulation) study the effects on the individual when the individual loses control of his own destiny, and the resultant effects of that loss of control on society. For references, both in current and historical events, and in the scholastic vein, I suggest: 1) Present day Poland 2) Present day USSR economy, especially the farm system and the heavy industry system. 3) Pre- WWII Germany, and the willingness to subscribe to a nationwide psychosis. 4) Seligman, "Hopelessness", currently in print. 5) Lebanon, 1983. Please consider, when you post your idealistic solutions to the world's problems (or your own, for that matter), that the human race consists of individuals, each of whom suffers in some unique way when you take away his/her freedom to self-determination. Furthermore, please consider the historical effects of such behavior. rabbit!jj