From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!CAD:tektronix!rich Newsgroups: net.followup Title: BC/BCE and all that tripe Article-I.D.: tektronix.904 Posted: Mon Jan 17 11:33:47 1983 Received: Wed Jan 19 08:17:57 1983 I guess I am the (tektronix.892) that Joe Wilson was flaming about who said "BC never meant Before Christ." That is still my contention regardless of what the dictionary says. Explanation: BC was and is a bastardized version of BCE, which is Common and/or Christian. Anyone who has done any study into this western religion vs. calendar dates thing cannot/willnot/shouldnot tell you Christ was born in the year zero (he/she would certainly get flamed out of existance). If Christ was born in 4BC(E), then how could Christ be born 4 year before Christ? The many things I *HAVE* researched state BC was/is a lazy version of BCE and lack of knowledge or ignorance led the general populace to consider those letters to mean "Before Christ" which eventually created a dictionary entry to that effect, not because of any "true meaning" but only because of popular usage. (look up QUIZ sometime - it has no roots or logical origin. It is a "fabricated" word which gained usage through wager and gained entry in our language for the "questions" it raised when posted all around the city). Just having a dictionary entry does not make a thing correct, only popular. Anyone want to run A.D. into the ground now? (a.d.- anno Domini) Rich Amber