From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!ihnss!houxi!houxg!lime!vax135!cornell!pavel
Newsgroups: net.followup
Title: Re: emacs info!
Article-I.D.: cornell.2969
Posted: Fri May 14 19:01:46 1982
Received: Sat May 15 03:55:43 1982

Last I heard, Steve's EMACS also didn't have real multiple windows or
subprocesses.  The only kind of windows in Steve's EMACS is the Twenex
'two window mode' which consists of a dashed line across the screen and
only one line of information about the current file which changes depending
upon which window you're in.   Gosling's, on the other hand, has the
ability to split any window in half, arbitrarily.  You can also grow or
shrink any window, thus giving you as many windows as you want of whatever
size you want.  (Unfortunately these are still full screen width, but so
are Steve's.)  Gosling's also has the ability to run an almost arbitrary
process in any window.  Thus many people log in to Emacs in the morning,
start up a shell in a window and never leave the editor until they leave
at the end of the day.  While you can't use the c-shell in a window (because
of the job control stuff, I think), the facilities of the editor more than
make up for the lack of the csh history mechanism.

   One other point is that since you can't extend Steve's EMACS, you're
stuck with the key-bindings and command-set that are the defaults.  As far
as I can see, the Emacs defaults (and this is true of both programs) are the
worst defaults that I've ever seen.  At least in Gosling's, you can make it
useable.

Enough flaming.   (BTW, mea culpa on the charge that Gosling would be illegal
in charging for his program.  I made a silly assumption.  For the fellow who
pointed out my error, yes, Cornell has adhered to the letter (and spirit) of
the license.)

	Pavel Curtis
	Cornell University
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