From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!npois!cbosgd!mark Newsgroups: net.games.rogue Title: Re: confused Article-I.D.: cbosgd.2366 Posted: Fri Jun 18 10:38:48 1982 Received: Sun Jun 20 05:44:55 1982 References: sri-unix.1791 Rings and sticks do indeed exist in version 3.6, and are found at all levels. However, people hacking the source are notorious for not incrementing the version number when they put out a new version, so it's possible that there was a 3.6 that didn't have them. If you aren't sure, say // or /= and see if your version knows about them. Certainly the 3.6 that came with 4.1BSD has them. Mark