From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!ihnss!houxi!houxg!lime!vax135!cornell!pavel Newsgroups: net.followup Title: Re: emacs info! Article-I.D.: cornell.2969 Posted: Fri May 14 19:01:46 1982 Received: Sat May 15 03:55:43 1982 Last I heard, Steve's EMACS also didn't have real multiple windows or subprocesses. The only kind of windows in Steve's EMACS is the Twenex 'two window mode' which consists of a dashed line across the screen and only one line of information about the current file which changes depending upon which window you're in. Gosling's, on the other hand, has the ability to split any window in half, arbitrarily. You can also grow or shrink any window, thus giving you as many windows as you want of whatever size you want. (Unfortunately these are still full screen width, but so are Steve's.) Gosling's also has the ability to run an almost arbitrary process in any window. Thus many people log in to Emacs in the morning, start up a shell in a window and never leave the editor until they leave at the end of the day. While you can't use the c-shell in a window (because of the job control stuff, I think), the facilities of the editor more than make up for the lack of the csh history mechanism. One other point is that since you can't extend Steve's EMACS, you're stuck with the key-bindings and command-set that are the defaults. As far as I can see, the Emacs defaults (and this is true of both programs) are the worst defaults that I've ever seen. At least in Gosling's, you can make it useable. Enough flaming. (BTW, mea culpa on the charge that Gosling would be illegal in charging for his program. I made a silly assumption. For the fellow who pointed out my error, yes, Cornell has adhered to the letter (and spirit) of the license.) Pavel Curtis Cornell University for