From: utzoo!decvax!ucbvax!G:cliff
Newsgroups: net.cms
Title: Re: UNIX over CMS anyday
Article-I.D.: populi.191
Posted: Wed Jun  2 22:06:53 1982
Received: Thu Jun  3 03:59:45 1982

Amdahl's UTS is in limited use here at the Berkeley Computer Center.  There
are two virtual machines running it, one for computer center staff and
the other for the computer science department to fiddle with.  We (CC staff)
have not done extensive evaluation of it that I know of, but at first
glance it has several problems.
	-It communicates well only with IBM 3270 type terminals, whose
         architecture prohibits 'raw mode' type communication.  All
         existing UNIX full screen programs (most sadly vi) are 
         completely impossible to bring up.  There is a full screen 
         editor, but it is not anywhere near as useful as vi.

        -Even 'lint'ed C programs generally require modification to run
         under UTS.  For some reason the Amdahl people have changed some
         specs of some system calls, including one of the ones to do
         with time.

        -From our point of view, it is sufficiently different from the
         UNIX that our people use all the time that it would require a
         lot of effort towards user-education to train them.

I should point out we have really done very little it, and I am not one
of the people with a say in our policy making.  I think that there are
a couple of people in the Computer Science dept who may be doing
something useful with their machine.  
     We have not run significant benchmarks or tests to see how CMS and
UTS bog eachother down (that I know of).
       -Cliff