From: utzoo!decvax!pur-ee!uiucdcs!deckert Newsgroups: net.aviation Title: Logging IFR Time - (nf) Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.289 Posted: Thu Jul 29 10:25:29 1982 Received: Fri Jul 30 04:46:12 1982 #N:uiucdcs:7900003:000:499 uiucdcs!deckert Jul 29 10:10:00 1982 FAR 61.51 (c) (4) states: "A pilot may log as instrument time only that time during which he operates the aircraft solely by reference to instruments, under actual or simulated instrument flight conditions." Therefore to log IFR time you must be flying in IMC, or with a hood, or in a simulator. Flying on the gauges in VMC does not count. Sorry. There are many cases where the FAR's are seemingly at odds with the real world, sometimes this works for us and sometimes it goes the other way.