From: utzoo!utcsrgv!utcsstat!wagner Newsgroups: net.misc Title: Re: I\"m not a hacker Article-I.D.: utcsstat.167 Posted: Tue Jun 8 15:54:03 1982 Received: Tue Jun 8 17:32:47 1982 References: mhuxh.452 Seems to me we have digressed to a low-level discussion of the semantics of the word hacker. Lets settle this squabble by recognizing that, like many other words in English, hacker has two meanings, neither meaning is universal, and they tend to contradict, conflict or confuse. Lets use hacker(1) to be the noble knight on a white terminal, and hacker(2) to be the guy who hacks away at code with a hack-saw until it sort of works. OK? Seems to me we got away from the real issue, which as I saw it was computer addiction. Michael Wagner, University of Toronto Computing Services