From: utzoo!watmath!cbostrum Newsgroups: net.misc Title: McGeer on Determinism Article-I.D.: watmath.3161 Posted: Sat Jul 31 22:18:36 1982 Received: Sat Jul 31 23:50:37 1982 Determinism requires a God? There are one or two very simple statements of what determinism is, but no one has any idea about any putative referent of "God". There is no mention of God in the definition of determinism, and if it is meant that some sort of "natural laws" are needed for determinism, why not just say that instead of clouding things up with obscurity? I would agree that agnostics are "confused", because they seem to actually take seriously what I consider to be a senseless proposition.