From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!utah-cs!slinac!derek Newsgroups: net.suicide Title: re: Suicide and Salvation Article-I.D.: slinac.113 Posted: Tue Jul 13 01:48:10 1982 Received: Wed Jul 14 01:50:47 1982 A soldier throwing himself on a gernade to save his(her) mates knows in advance that it will kill him (unless it is a dud) but it is not his intention to die, thus is not damned forever. Derek Andrew U of Saskatchewan (in the Great White North)