From: utzoo!decvax!cca!csin!cjh
Newsgroups: net.aviation
Title: current discussion (stallman)
Article-I.D.: csin.176
Posted: Mon Aug  9 11:30:33 1982
Received: Tue Aug 10 02:28:40 1982

   It seems that the opinions of an experienced ex-pilot with some regard for
the vast majority of non-pilots are less than welcome in this discussion
(although RMS has made this kind of unbalanced personal attack before and
I suppose I should be used to it). This is one of the reasons I stopped flying;
I wasn't interested in the high rates charged outsiders, and the clubs I saw
had a basic attitude of "damn the groundhogs"---not as official policy (they
weren't that stupid) but as the general attitude of the members. Face it---your
toys (for such they are for most of the people on this net) are at best a
nuisance to a lot of other people, and you don't even have the smokers'
advantage of being a significant minority.
   A final note to Bernie: the last time I looked at climb tables a typical
light plane was around 1.5 miles downrange \from the takeoff point/ by the time
it reached 500 feet AGL (perhaps less with a lightly loaded plane); this tends
to invalidate the observation of someone on the field