|Re: Should MST3K Have Continued Forever? [message #42325 is a reply to message #42324]
||Mon, 11 March 2013 18:46
Registered: March 2013
On Mar 11, 5:21 pm, Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:|
> In article
> <"mcelha...@hotmail.com"> wrote:
>> On Mar 11, 3:24 pm, Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <05b27dde-3ab7-47e1-9907-abb284bfa...@i5g2000pbj.googlegroups.com>, Ken
>>> McElhaney <mcelha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 9, 6:23 am, Professor Bubba <bu...@nowhere.edu.invalid> wrote:
>>>> > Joel and others later did a thing called Cinematic Titanic, which had
>>>> > the same flavor as MST3K with silhouettes and all, while Mike and crew
>>>> > did audio-only commentary tracks that you're supposed to sync with your
>>>> > copy of the movie. This neatly saved Mike all that licensing money and
>>>> > permission-seeking. Neither effort seemed to gain any traction,
>>>> > though.
>>>> I guess it depends on what you mean by "traction". While the demise of
>>>> Cinematic Titanic is one thing, Rifftrax has done quite well for
>>>> itself. In fact, a Kickstarter campaign to raise money to live riff
>>>> "Twilight" is now four times past its goal. No traction? Well, it was
>>>> never the intention of Rifftrax to go on cable TV, but they regularly
>>>> produce new riffs on full length movies, have VOD that can be
>>>> downloaded and shorts as well.
>>>> I think "successful" would more accurately describe Rifftrax whether
>>>> you care for the humor or not anymore, they have succeeded in creating
>>>> a profitable business venture for several years now and show little
>>>> sign of letting up.
>>> I'm happy for Mike et al. that Rifftrax is still going, but it's never
>>> become a "thing." I know that what I meant by "traction" wasn't clear..
>>> I didn't know that Cinematic Titanic had flatlined. I did know that no
>>> one was talking about it, though, the same way nobody talks about
>>> Rifftrax (where "nobody" may also mean "hardly anybody").
>> I guess it depends on what "hardly anybody" means. I would not count
>> this newsgroup, but if you just look at the Kickstarter project they
>> are currently doing right now, I think that it does qualify as a
>> "thing" or "something" at least. Raising over $200,000 for a live riff
>> has to involve quite a few people who think Rifftrax is a "thing".
>> Perhaps the conversation has simply moved somewhere else?
> Maybe so, because I hadn't heard a thing about it since the startup
> until now. I agree that money talks, but in this case I guess it's not
> talking to me. Thing is, the apparent success of Rifftrax is exactly
> the kind of deal I should have been hearing about, going where I go and
> talking who I talk to. One of us seems to be doing something wrong.
If you follow the "Satellite News", the unofficial MST3K website, they
post Rifftrax stuff all the time and it generally gets plenty of
I usually download the short films (99 cents each) and they have one
or two live shows which are broadcast across the country in selected
movie theaters. The "Twilight" effort represents a big change for them
as they usually do public domain stuff (Plan 9 for example).
Cinematic Titanic started out as DVD or download-only and then adding
live performances. Joel just announced that this would be the last
year for Cinematic Titanic, at least in terms of performing live.
Rifftrax is part of a larger corporation, but they have a staff of
writers and even guests who do commentary on their voice-overs from
time to time. One of their latest coups was getting "Cool as Ice", the
disastrous Vanilla Ice film from the early 90's as a VOD...not just a
commentary track, but the video itself can be downloaded with the