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Re: Top or bottom posting; does it really matter? [message #411332 is a reply to message #411307]

Tue, 28 September 2021 09:09

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:58:58 +0100, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Netiquette is not etiquette.

It certainly is. It is a branch of etiquette that deals specifically with
online communications.

> Perhaps those who take offence so easily over
> such a trivial matter were the prototype
> woke generation?

I dispute your assertion; it is not trivial.

> Wherever the new material is placed, whether at the
> top or the bottom (or both, in this case) you get
> to read it and assimilate its intelligence, so
> why have an emotional reaction in addition?

Layout matters, viz:

https://keepmeme.com/meme/you-matter-dont-give-up-or-you-don t-matter-give-up

Every so often some pedant comes along and advances the argument that some part
of estabilished etiquette, for example, shop clerks asking "how are you" or
wishing you a nice day -- to say nothing of "please" and "thank you" -- are
superfluous and unnecessary because they convey no information and are just some
outdated, arbitrary convention, and thus can be discarded. They ignore that,
among other things, these phrases actually provide useful functions: they can
reveal intentions, set expectations, and generally establish a framework for
successful transactions between strangers. You might think of them as verbal
lubricant, or liken them to a computer protocol that allows two hetrogeneous
computers to exchange data. Be it place settings, wedding invitations, or some
other etiquette matter, the same tired arguments regarding their irrelevance
are made periodically, and same valid refutations are made in return.

And so it is with netiquette, and most frequently, the top/bottom posting issue.
That horse is long dead, beaten into a grease spot, and even the bones are
turning to dust. The overwhelming consensus is that bottom posting and
judicious trimming of long posts is the proper course. Exceptions are rare,
and continued top posting marks one as a newbie or a self-declared iconoclast
who thinks they are championing reason, freedom, or some other abstraction.
But they are just ignorant, or being selfish and childish. They tilt at
windmills in their mind.

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		Top or bottom posting; does it really matter? By: Anonymous on Sun, 26 September 2021 15:51
		Re: Top or bottom posting; does it really matter? By: Anonymous on Sun, 26 September 2021 16:20
		Re: Top or bottom posting; does it really matter? By: Anonymous on Mon, 27 September 2021 04:58
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		Re: Top or bottom posting; does it really matter? By: usenet on Tue, 28 September 2021 09:09
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