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Re: What is the oldest computer that could be used today for real work? [message #411208 is a reply to message #411186] Fri, 24 September 2021 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Charlie Gibbs is currently offline  Charlie Gibbs
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On 2021-09-24, J Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 18:31:34 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2021-09-23, Scott Lurndal <scott@slp53.sl.home> wrote:
>>
>>> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 02:51:21 GMT, Charlie Gibbs
>>>> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Last year I heard that a number of 911 sites went down (i.e. no
>>>> > dial tone) for at least half an hour thanks to a buggy Windows
>>>> > update that was pushed out to them.
>>>>
>>>> Push updates should be a criminal offense.
>>
>> I'm amazed that it doesn't seem to occur to anyone what a
>> huge security hole this represents.
>
> The story is that those updates are essential to close security holes.
> It's amazing the bullshit that people believe about security.

For many people, security is all about giving yourself the warm fuzzies;
whether the measures are effective is irrelevant. A PPOE once implemented
a security policy requiring all after-hours access to be done through one
door (at the opposite end of the building from the computer department,
of course). So I'd have to walk the length of the building on the outside,
let myself in through the designated door, then walk back the length of
the building on the inside. There were no locked doors internally -
once you were inside you had the run of the building - so this measure
accomplished exactly nothing.

>>> Running critical infrastructure on windows should be a criminal offense.
>>
>> Hear, hear!
>
> That ship, however, has sailed.

In the case of the Australian navy, that ship was left dead in the water
when Windows crashed.

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