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Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #354956] Tue, 14 November 2017 12:25 Go to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Arsene Lupin

Hi Tom,

Being a long-time "silent" AppleWin user, thanks a million for this wonderful emulator :-)

I know this is just an experimental build (released on 11/12) but still want to let you know this weird regression:
1. My disk setup: 2 disk images in both 5.25" drives and one is from, say, directory .\A1 and the other from .\B. 2 HD's in Slot 7.
2. Boot AppleWin from HD in S7,D1 ("applewin -r 64"). Do something and quite AppleWin altogether.
3. Start AppleWin again with the same command. Now you will find S6,D2 empty but the diskette in S6,D1 is still there.
4. If you put the original diskette in S6,D2 and repeat 2-3, you will find S6,D1 now empty instead. S6,D2 still has the right image.

Let me know if you need more information.

-AL
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #354957 is a reply to message #354956] Tue, 14 November 2017 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
qkumba is currently offline  qkumba
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This is not a new problem. Using disks in different directories causes one image to "disappear" between runs because the current directory changes and AppleWin doesn't see the file anymore. I've lived with it for so long that I forgot to ever report it.
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #354958 is a reply to message #354957] Tue, 14 November 2017 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Arsene Lupin

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-8, Peter Ferrie wrote:
> This is not a new problem. Using disks in different directories causes one image to "disappear" between runs because the current directory changes and AppleWin doesn't see the file anymore. I've lived with it for so long that I forgot to ever report it.

Wow... I did not know this for all the years I have been using it :-D

If that's the case, Tom, should I file an issue on GitHub or there's been one already?
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #354959 is a reply to message #354956] Tue, 14 November 2017 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: James Davis

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-8, Arsene Lupin wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Being a long-time "silent" AppleWin user, thanks a million for this wonderful emulator :-)
>
> I know this is just an experimental build (released on 11/12) but still want to let you know this weird regression:
> 1. My disk setup: 2 disk images in both 5.25" drives and one is from, say, directory .\A1 and the other from .\B. 2 HD's in Slot 7.
> 2. Boot AppleWin from HD in S7,D1 ("applewin -r 64"). Do something and quite AppleWin altogether.
> 3. Start AppleWin again with the same command. Now you will find S6,D2 empty but the diskette in S6,D1 is still there.
> 4. If you put the original diskette in S6,D2 and repeat 2-3, you will find S6,D1 now empty instead. S6,D2 still has the right image.
>
> Let me know if you need more information.
>
> -AL

With vesion 1.26.2.3, this only occurs if the paths of the disk images are radically different. If the path last used contains the path of the other disk image, too, the other disk image is not lost.
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #354960 is a reply to message #354956] Tue, 14 November 2017 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: James Davis

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-8, Arsene Lupin wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Being a long-time "silent" AppleWin user, thanks a million for this wonderful emulator :-)
>
> I know this is just an experimental build (released on 11/12) but still want to let you know this weird regression:
> 1. My disk setup: 2 disk images in both 5.25" drives and one is from, say, directory .\A1 and the other from .\B. 2 HD's in Slot 7.
> 2. Boot AppleWin from HD in S7,D1 ("applewin -r 64"). Do something and quite AppleWin altogether.
> 3. Start AppleWin again with the same command. Now you will find S6,D2 empty but the diskette in S6,D1 is still there.
> 4. If you put the original diskette in S6,D2 and repeat 2-3, you will find S6,D1 now empty instead. S6,D2 still has the right image.
>
> Let me know if you need more information.
>
> -AL

The solution to this problem is for AppleWin to keep a record of the pathname for each drive's disk image (to use when AppleWin starts-up) and to keep a separate record of the last path used to select a disk image (to use as a starting point for the next selction to be made).
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #355372 is a reply to message #354958] Tue, 14 November 2017 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gids.rs is currently offline  gids.rs
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On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 12:41:12 PM UTC-6, Arsene Lupin wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-8, Peter Ferrie wrote:
>> This is not a new problem. Using disks in different directories causes one image to "disappear" between runs because the current directory changes and AppleWin doesn't see the file anymore. I've lived with it for so long that I forgot to ever report it.
>
> Wow... I did not know this for all the years I have been using it :-D
>
> If that's the case, Tom, should I file an issue on GitHub or there's been one already?


I do the same work-around by putting all my disk images in the same folder. I told myself I needed a backup image anyways as to not damage the original, and if needed to change to another image, then back again, I wouldn't have to go searching for it again.

Maybe for these reasons, it was felt that is was not important to keep track of where every image was mounted from.
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #355373 is a reply to message #354958] Tue, 14 November 2017 16:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 6:41:12 PM UTC, Arsene Lupin wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-8, Peter Ferrie wrote:
>> This is not a new problem. Using disks in different directories causes one image to "disappear" between runs because the current directory changes and AppleWin doesn't see the file anymore. I've lived with it for so long that I forgot to ever report it.
>
> Wow... I did not know this for all the years I have been using it :-D
>
> If that's the case, Tom, should I file an issue on GitHub or there's been one already?

Hi Arsene - happy to hear it's been useful for you!

Yes, please file a new GitHub issue.
I agree that it'd be good to get this fixed.

Cheers.
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #355374 is a reply to message #355373] Tue, 14 November 2017 20:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Arsene Lupin

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 1:16:02 PM UTC-8, TomCh wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 6:41:12 PM UTC, Arsene Lupin wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:54:06 AM UTC-8, Peter Ferrie wrote:
>>> This is not a new problem. Using disks in different directories causes one image to "disappear" between runs because the current directory changes and AppleWin doesn't see the file anymore. I've lived with it for so long that I forgot to ever report it.
>>
>> Wow... I did not know this for all the years I have been using it :-D
>>
>> If that's the case, Tom, should I file an issue on GitHub or there's been one already?
>
> Hi Arsene - happy to hear it's been useful for you!
>
> Yes, please file a new GitHub issue.
> I agree that it'd be good to get this fixed.
>
> Cheers.

Done. Issue #511
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #355594 is a reply to message #354960] Thu, 16 November 2017 03:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: James Davis

On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:06:41 AM UTC-8, James Davis wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-8, Arsene Lupin wrote:
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> Being a long-time "silent" AppleWin user, thanks a million for this wonderful emulator :-)
>>
>> I know this is just an experimental build (released on 11/12) but still want to let you know this weird regression:
>> 1. My disk setup: 2 disk images in both 5.25" drives and one is from, say, directory .\A1 and the other from .\B. 2 HD's in Slot 7.
>> 2. Boot AppleWin from HD in S7,D1 ("applewin -r 64"). Do something and quite AppleWin altogether.
>> 3. Start AppleWin again with the same command. Now you will find S6,D2 empty but the diskette in S6,D1 is still there.
>> 4. If you put the original diskette in S6,D2 and repeat 2-3, you will find S6,D1 now empty instead. S6,D2 still has the right image.
>>
>> Let me know if you need more information.
>>
>> -AL
>
> The solution to this problem is for AppleWin to keep a record of the pathname for each drive's disk image (to use when AppleWin starts-up) and to keep a separate record of the last path used to select a disk image (to use as a starting point for the next selction to be made).

Another solution to this probem is to use AppleWin's Save State feature.
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #355595 is a reply to message #355594] Thu, 16 November 2017 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
TomCh is currently offline  TomCh
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On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 8:57:22 AM UTC, James Davis wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:06:41 AM UTC-8, James Davis wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-8, Arsene Lupin wrote:
>>> Hi Tom,
>>>
>>> Being a long-time "silent" AppleWin user, thanks a million for this wonderful emulator :-)
>>>
>>> I know this is just an experimental build (released on 11/12) but still want to let you know this weird regression:
>>> 1. My disk setup: 2 disk images in both 5.25" drives and one is from, say, directory .\A1 and the other from .\B. 2 HD's in Slot 7.
>>> 2. Boot AppleWin from HD in S7,D1 ("applewin -r 64"). Do something and quite AppleWin altogether.
>>> 3. Start AppleWin again with the same command. Now you will find S6,D2 empty but the diskette in S6,D1 is still there.
>>> 4. If you put the original diskette in S6,D2 and repeat 2-3, you will find S6,D1 now empty instead. S6,D2 still has the right image.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you need more information.
>>>
>>> -AL
>>
>> The solution to this problem is for AppleWin to keep a record of the pathname for each drive's disk image (to use when AppleWin starts-up) and to keep a separate record of the last path used to select a disk image (to use as a starting point for the next selction to be made).
>
> Another solution to this probem is to use AppleWin's Save State feature.

I think save-state is only a bit better, as it will prompt you if it can't find the disk image(s)... so you'll have to manually hunt for the correct location. Tedious!

I'll take a look at improving this (including save-state too).
Re: Losing 5.25" disk images in AppleWin v1.26.3.4 [message #355596 is a reply to message #355595] Thu, 16 November 2017 23:13 Go to previous message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: James Davis

On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 1:15:55 PM UTC-8, TomCh wrote:
> On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 8:57:22 AM UTC, James Davis wrote:
>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:06:41 AM UTC-8, James Davis wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 9:25:11 AM UTC-8, Arsene Lupin wrote:
>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>
>>>> Being a long-time "silent" AppleWin user, thanks a million for this wonderful emulator :-)
>>>>
>>>> I know this is just an experimental build (released on 11/12) but still want to let you know this weird regression:
>>>> 1. My disk setup: 2 disk images in both 5.25" drives and one is from, say, directory .\A1 and the other from .\B. 2 HD's in Slot 7.
>>>> 2. Boot AppleWin from HD in S7,D1 ("applewin -r 64"). Do something and quite AppleWin altogether.
>>>> 3. Start AppleWin again with the same command. Now you will find S6,D2 empty but the diskette in S6,D1 is still there.
>>>> 4. If you put the original diskette in S6,D2 and repeat 2-3, you will find S6,D1 now empty instead. S6,D2 still has the right image.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you need more information.
>>>>
>>>> -AL
>>>
>>> The solution to this problem is for AppleWin to keep a record of the pathname for each drive's disk image (to use when AppleWin starts-up) and to keep a separate record of the last path used to select a disk image (to use as a starting point for the next selction to be made).
>>
>> Another solution to this probem is to use AppleWin's Save State feature..
>
> I think save-state is only a bit better, as it will prompt you if it can't find the disk image(s)... so you'll have to manually hunt for the correct location. Tedious!
>
> I'll take a look at improving this (including save-state too).

Good.
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