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Wed, 27 September 2017 15:19  |
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Originally posted by: Tim Streater
In article <f32a57F3vecU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2017-09-27, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
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>> I was just using Terminal on my Mac. Typing in "man terminal" just gave
>> "no man entry for terminal". Hopeless.
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> That'll be because there is no Unix application called "terminal".
What's that got to do with anything? My experience with the man pages
is that one of the following very often applies:
1) There is no man page
2) There is a man page but it's out of date
3) There is a man page but it's for a different application altogether.
So I tend to limit my Terminal usage to stuff I already know, or if I
have to launch an executable from with my app then I accept the faff of
figuring out the command string as part of the development time. I can
usually find out what's needed, however, one way or another.
Windows is different altogether, it's more of a crapshoot there, and
there's some chance what I need can't be done anyway.
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"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English
is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion,
English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious
and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -- James Nicoll, rasfw
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| Re: learning Unix, was progress in e-mail, such as AOL [message #353567 is a reply to message #353548] |
Thu, 28 September 2017 02:52  |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 20:19:03 +0100
Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
> What's that got to do with anything? My experience with the man pages
> is that one of the following very often applies:
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> 1) There is no man page
> 2) There is a man page but it's out of date
> 3) There is a man page but it's for a different application altogether.
Now try a FreeBSD system and see how man pages should be done.
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| Re: learning Unix, was progress in e-mail, such as AOL [message #353577 is a reply to message #353548] |
Thu, 28 September 2017 05:58 |
Jorgen Grahn
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On Wed, 2017-09-27, Tim Streater wrote:
> In article <f32a57F3vecU1@mid.individual.net>, Huge
> <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
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>> On 2017-09-27, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote:
>>
>> [31 lines snipped]
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>>> I was just using Terminal on my Mac. Typing in "man terminal" just gave
>>> "no man entry for terminal". Hopeless.
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>> That'll be because there is no Unix application called "terminal".
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> What's that got to do with anything?
I think he's saying you expect the man pages to cover your installed
software, and he expects them to cover the Unix-like parts of MacOS.
> My experience with the man pages
> is that one of the following very often applies:
>
> 1) There is no man page
> 2) There is a man page but it's out of date
> 3) There is a man page but it's for a different application altogether.
That tends to mean you're using the wrong OS, or the wrong software.
At least if you expect good man pages.
In Debian or OpenBSD you can expect a decent man page for everything.
/Jorgen
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