| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353219] |
Sat, 23 September 2017 16:46  |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
> On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
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>> People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the fact
>> that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't mean it
>> can't be dangerous.
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> The dose makes the poison. For everything.
Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
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| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353249 is a reply to message #353219] |
Sun, 24 September 2017 01:29  |
Charles Richmond
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On 9/23/2017 3:46 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
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>> On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
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>> [19 lines snipped]
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>>> People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the fact
>>> that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't mean it
>>> can't be dangerous.
>>
>> The dose makes the poison. For everything.
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> Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
>
But... the *amount* of a substance required for toxicity varies *widely*!
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| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353250 is a reply to message #353249] |
Sun, 24 September 2017 01:42 |
Joe Pfeiffer
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Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
> On 9/23/2017 3:46 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
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>>> On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
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>>> [19 lines snipped]
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>>>> People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the fact
>>>> that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't mean it
>>>> can't be dangerous.
>>>
>>> The dose makes the poison. For everything.
>>
>> Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
>>
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> But... the *amount* of a substance required for toxicity varies *widely*!
I use boric acid as the active ingredient in an ant bait I put in the
kitchen. Works great on ants; has a higher LD50 than table salt on
mammals.
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| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353264 is a reply to message #353249] |
Sun, 24 September 2017 06:52 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-09-24, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> On 9/23/2017 3:46 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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>> On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
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>>> On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> [19 lines snipped]
>>>
>>>> People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the fact
>>>> that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't mean it
>>>> can't be dangerous.
>>>
>>> The dose makes the poison. For everything.
>>
>> Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
>
> But... the *amount* of a substance required for toxicity varies *widely*!
True. But there's always a point where you have too much of something,
whatever it is. This flies in the face of the "more is better" meme.
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| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353284 is a reply to message #353250] |
Sun, 24 September 2017 10:45 |
jmfbahciv
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Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> writes:
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>> On 9/23/2017 3:46 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [19 lines snipped]
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>>>> > People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the
fact
>>>> > that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't mean
it
>>>> > can't be dangerous.
>>>>
>>>> The dose makes the poison. For everything.
>>>
>>> Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
>>>
>>
>> But... the *amount* of a substance required for toxicity varies *widely*!
>
> I use boric acid as the active ingredient in an ant bait I put in the
> kitchen. Works great on ants; has a higher LD50 than table salt on
> mammals.
Yup. Boric acid is the best for ants.
/BAH
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| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353289 is a reply to message #353264] |
Sun, 24 September 2017 11:39 |
Charles Richmond
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On 9/24/2017 5:52 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2017-09-24, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
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>> On 9/23/2017 3:46 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [19 lines snipped]
>>>>
>>>> > People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the fact
>>>> > that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't mean it
>>>> > can't be dangerous.
>>>>
>>>> The dose makes the poison. For everything.
>>>
>>> Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
>>
>> But... the *amount* of a substance required for toxicity varies *widely*!
>
> True. But there's always a point where you have too much of something,
> whatever it is. This flies in the face of the "more is better" meme.
>
Too much money can also be toxic. Many people have ruined themselves
because they could *not* successfully deal with having lots of money.
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| Re: OT: Fluorescent lamp "starter" unit? [message #353344 is a reply to message #353289] |
Sun, 24 September 2017 17:59 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-09-24, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
> On 9/24/2017 5:52 AM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
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>> On 2017-09-24, Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
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>>> On 9/23/2017 3:46 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-09-23, Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2017-09-23, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > [19 lines snipped]
>>>> >
>>>> >> People have been poisoned by taking too many iron supplements, so the
>>>> >> fact that small amounts of selenium are essential for the diet doesn't
>>>> >> mean it can't be dangerous.
>>>> >
>>>> > The dose makes the poison. For everything.
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Even water. Or oxygen.
>>>
>>> But... the *amount* of a substance required for toxicity varies *widely*!
>>
>> True. But there's always a point where you have too much of something,
>> whatever it is. This flies in the face of the "more is better" meme.
>
> Too much money can also be toxic. Many people have ruined themselves
> because they could *not* successfully deal with having lots of money.
And then there's Donald Trump...
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