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What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #342164] Thu, 11 May 2017 10:59 Go to next message
James Harris is currently offline  James Harris
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I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
none work fully.

What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
relevant. Options:

* Sell
* Donate
* Scrap


Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are
emulators the way to go now?


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Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #342165 is a reply to message #342164] Thu, 11 May 2017 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
frank is currently offline  frank
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James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
> acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
> some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
> none work fully.
>
> What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
> relevant. Options:
>
> * Sell
> * Donate
> * Scrap

I would repair it all, it's rather easy if you know how to do it (and many
of us, know how).
So you might just sell the stuff and be happy (or donate to some museum
if you know one).
If you still want to scrap them, I guess I'd pay shipping costs (and again
I'm not the only one probably).

>
>
> Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are
> emulators the way to go now?

Sure, emulators do work, but real hardware is more fun and works better than
emulators most of the time :)

Best regards

Frank IZ8DWF
Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #342166 is a reply to message #342164] Thu, 11 May 2017 16:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Kohlbach is currently offline  Andreas Kohlbach
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On Thu, 11 May 2017 15:59:53 +0100, James Harris wrote:
>
> I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
> acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I
> know some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect
> that none work fully.
>
> What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
> relevant. Options:
>
> * Sell
> * Donate
> * Scrap

You could try to verify that it works, and make some buck^Wquid at Ebay then.

> Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system
> working. Are emulators the way to go now?

I use VICE <http://vice-emu.sourceforge.net/> and sometimes even MAME to
emulate a PET.

Still if you have working hardware that would be the way to go for me.
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Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #342167 is a reply to message #342165] Fri, 12 May 2017 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Harris is currently offline  James Harris
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On 11/05/2017 16:02, frank wrote:
> James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
>> acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
>> some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
>> none work fully.
>>
>> What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
>> relevant. Options:
>>
>> * Sell
>> * Donate
>> * Scrap
>
> I would repair it all, it's rather easy if you know how to do it (and many
> of us, know how).
> So you might just sell the stuff and be happy (or donate to some museum
> if you know one).
> If you still want to scrap them, I guess I'd pay shipping costs (and again
> I'm not the only one probably).

It sounds as though the machines have some value. Maybe the best option
is to get them repaired and sell them. I found this firm which repairs
old machines:

http://www.tynemouthsoftware.co.uk/VintageComputers

I saw that firm being recommended elsewhere but if anyone knows of or
would recommend another viable repairer, do let me know.

It would be good to keep at least one working system. The return of
nostalgia!


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What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #342168 is a reply to message #342164] Thu, 11 May 2017 21:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: nospam.Janne.Johansson

On 2017-05-11 15:58, Andreas Kohlbach : frank wrote:

> Yeah, more like real sex with the real hardware. While an emulator is
> more like fapping. ;-)
>
> Not having any vintage hardware I use emulators. Poor hand of mine. ;-)

Would you still enjoy "second hand" hardware? ;)
Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #342169 is a reply to message #342168] Sat, 13 May 2017 16:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Kohlbach is currently offline  Andreas Kohlbach
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On Fri, 12 May 2017 13:49:00 +1200, Janne Johansson wrote:
>
> On 2017-05-11 15:58, Andreas Kohlbach : frank wrote:
>
>> Yeah, more like real sex with the real hardware. While an emulator is
>> more like fapping. ;-)
>>
>> Not having any vintage hardware I use emulators. Poor hand of mine. ;-)
>
> Would you still enjoy "second hand" hardware? ;)

Sure. If I had space and time for that.

Last thing I bought was an Amiga 500 from a flea market back in 2003 but
then moved often and never really got to buy a CRT monitor for it, so at
some point sold it on Ebay and never bought any other vintage hardware again.
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Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #347195 is a reply to message #342164] Tue, 27 June 2017 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I hope it's not too late. Please, for the love of all things sacred...don't ever scrap/recycle vintage computer gear. Yes, I admit some of it really is worthless (like old RS-232 cables) but vintage computers like Amiga's, PET's, VIC-20's, etc. are dropping off the planet.

Of course, selling it could be the most advantageous for you in that you could earn a profit.

If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means donate it. Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.

You could always list them on CL for free pickup or even sell them on eBay for $1 with local pickup only.

Anyway, just my suggestion.





On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 11:00:00 AM UTC-4, James Harris wrote:
> I have some old Commodore Pets and some associated twin floppy drives,
> acquired when a university was throwing them out some years ago. I know
> some of them don't work. I haven't tested them all but I suspect that
> none work fully.
>
> What's best to do with such old hardware? I am in the UK if that is
> relevant. Options:
>
> * Sell
> * Donate
> * Scrap
>
>
> Also, I would like to get some kind of Commodore Pet system working. Are
> emulators the way to go now?
>
>
> --
> James Harris
Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #347208 is a reply to message #347195] Tue, 27 June 2017 12:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
James Harris is currently offline  James Harris
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On 27/06/2017 16:29, cbmeeks wrote:

> I hope it's not too late. Please, for the love of all things sacred...don't ever scrap/recycle vintage computer gear. Yes, I admit some of it really is worthless (like old RS-232 cables) but vintage computers like Amiga's, PET's, VIC-20's, etc. are dropping off the planet.
>
> Of course, selling it could be the most advantageous for you in that you could earn a profit.
>
> If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means donate it. Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.
>
> You could always list them on CL for free pickup or even sell them on eBay for $1 with local pickup only.

CL?

>
> Anyway, just my suggestion.

Noted. (There was never really much chance of me throwing them away.)

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Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #347209 is a reply to message #347195] Tue, 27 June 2017 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andreas Kohlbach is currently offline  Andreas Kohlbach
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On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 08:29:58 -0700 (PDT), cbmeeks wrote:
>
> I hope it's not too late. Please, for the love of all things
> sacred...don't ever scrap/recycle vintage computer gear. Yes, I admit
> some of it really is worthless (like old RS-232 cables) but vintage
> computers like Amiga's, PET's, VIC-20's, etc. are dropping off the
> planet.
>
> Of course, selling it could be the most advantageous for you in that you could earn a profit.
>
> If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means donate
> it. Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old
> computers because they deem them worthless and send them off to
> recycle.
>
> You could always list them on CL for free pickup or even sell them on eBay for $1 with local pickup only.
>
> Anyway, just my suggestion.

Or a garage sell. Someone might stop by, see the old hardware and with a
smile and a tear in the eye, gets the wallet out and asks you how much.
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there are more than five mcdonald's bags currently on the floorboard of your
car.
Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #347367 is a reply to message #347208] Thu, 29 June 2017 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: nospam.Drew.Klenotic

On 27 Jun 17 17:10:00 James Harris wrote...

JH> On 27/06/2017 16:29, cbmeeks wrote:
JH>
JH> > If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means
JH> > donate it.
JH> Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers
JH> because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.

To which Drew Klenotic replies...

That's not really true. Just the other day I picked up a Timex Sinclair
1000 from my local Goodwill store (for $5!). Also, I've heard sometimes
they end up putting that stuff on their auction site.
Re: What to do [message #347683 is a reply to message #342168] Fri, 07 July 2017 07:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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> hat's not really true. Just the other day I picked up a Timex Sinclair<
> 000 from my local Goodwill store (for $5!). Also, I've heard sometimes<
> hey end up putting that stuff on their auction site.<
> <
> <
> <


I think it depends on the store. I've
yet to see anything computer related
at my store.

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Re: What to do [message #347862 is a reply to message #347683] Fri, 07 July 2017 21:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: nospam.Drew.Klenotic

On 07 Jul 17 11:03:26 Ice_Breaker@particlesbbs.dyndns.org wrote...

II> > hat's not really true. Just the other day I picked up a Timex
II> > Sinclair< 000 from my local Goodwill store (for $5!). Also, I've
II> > heard sometimes< hey end up putting that stuff on their auction
II> > site.< < < <
II>
II>
II> I think it depends on the store. I've yet to see anything computer
II> related at my store.

To which Drew Klenotic replies...

That's the first computer I've seen there... but they do have things from
time to time. I've picked up some bulk blank DVD's cheap, a video
capture card, an ISA networking card and tons and tons of LCD monitors
and cheap cables.

They even had some Sony imaging stuff (An XV-T500 and XV-T600) but I
passed on it since I'm not sure how they work or if they even worked (or
were complete). Plus I blew my retro budget for this paycheck buying
some games from "some guy" on Ebay. ;)
Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #349314 is a reply to message #347367] Tue, 25 July 2017 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, June 30, 2017 at 5:17:44 AM UTC-4, Drew Klenotic wrote:
> On 27 Jun 17 17:10:00 James Harris wrote...
>
> JH> On 27/06/2017 16:29, cbmeeks wrote:
> JH>
> JH> > If you don't want the hassle of selling it, then by all means
> JH> > donate it.
> JH> Here in the US, Goodwill is a TERRIBLE place to donate old computers
> JH> because they deem them worthless and send them off to recycle.
>
> To which Drew Klenotic replies...
>
> That's not really true. Just the other day I picked up a Timex Sinclair
> 1000 from my local Goodwill store (for $5!). Also, I've heard sometimes
> they end up putting that stuff on their auction site.


OK, you're only seeing the odd-ball instances that didn't go to recycle. Obviously, if they sent 15 other Sinclair's to the recycle center you wouldn't know it.

It really depends on the Goodwill (or other thrift store). One time I was in a thrift store (similar to Goodwill) and they had a floppy drive with no price on it. I asked them and they sold it to me for $0.99 USD. The guy told me that it was a "disk drive and you can't use disk drives any more so I could have it for 99 cents".

Clearly, he had NO idea what it was. Granted, it wasn't worth much but the idea of "cannot use disk drives anymore" was wrong. What do you think he would have done with a Timex Sinclair?

Atari's MIGHT survive thrift stores because everyone knows Atari. But my point is that lesser known brands may be mistaken for junk and sent off.

Keep in mind these "experts" are the same people that keep around stupid cable TV tuners and broken kids pianos. They clearly have no expertise in what should be sold or discarded when it comes to electronics.

If you found a Sinclair...then awesome. I know the LGR guy finds stuff like that. But he must live in some bizzarro thrift store world or something. In my experiences, most people scrap that stuff.
Re: What to do with old Commodore Pet hardware [message #349357 is a reply to message #349314] Tue, 25 July 2017 16:43 Go to previous message
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:37:24 -0700 (PDT), cbmeeks wrote:
>
> OK, you're only seeing the odd-ball instances that didn't go to
> recycle. Obviously, if they sent 15 other Sinclair's to the recycle
> center you wouldn't know it.
>
> It really depends on the Goodwill (or other thrift store). One time I
> was in a thrift store (similar to Goodwill) and they had a floppy
> drive with no price on it. I asked them and they sold it to me for
> $0.99 USD. The guy told me that it was a "disk drive and you can't
> use disk drives any more so I could have it for 99 cents".

I wonder for how much Apple ][ and Tandys go.

> Clearly, he had NO idea what it was. Granted, it wasn't worth much
> but the idea of "cannot use disk drives anymore" was wrong. What do
> you think he would have done with a Timex Sinclair?
>
> Atari's MIGHT survive thrift stores because everyone knows Atari. But
> my point is that lesser known brands may be mistaken for junk and sent
> off.
>
> Keep in mind these "experts" are the same people that keep around
> stupid cable TV tuners and broken kids pianos. They clearly have no
> expertise in what should be sold or discarded when it comes to
> electronics.

They also might be too young to know what they got there.

> If you found a Sinclair...then awesome. I know the LGR guy finds
> stuff like that. But he must live in some bizzarro thrift store world
> or something. In my experiences, most people scrap that stuff.

See seems to be surrounded by 20 or so Goodwill stores and half a dozen
other thrift stores.

Btw. I mentioned in a comment on his Youtube page to please focus more on
the labels of the things he turns around in the stores. Would be
interesting to know manufacturing date of some of the items, or where it
was made.
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