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US Post Office computer upgrades [message #347944] Mon, 10 July 2017 15:15 Go to next message
hancock4 is currently offline  hancock4
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Got the following email from the U.S. Post Office. Note the digital
preview of the envelope.

However, to create an account, they put you through the ringer to
have a secure password; lots of requirements.

****

We are excited to announce that the My USPS application will soon be
upgraded to offer you more benefits and convenience.

No action is required from you - you will retain your My USPS benefits,
but will also have access to Informed Delivery® notifications, a new,
free feature that gives you the ability to see a digital preview of your
incoming mail. Informed Delivery allows you to view grayscale images of
the exterior, address side of your household’s letter-sized mailpieces*
on a computer, tablet, or mobile device. This new feature offers the
convenience of seeing what is coming to your mailbox - anytime,
anywhere.

Now when you log in to your My USPS account, you will be able to track
packages and view a preview of your letter-sized mailpieces in one,
integrated dashboard. Your dashboard will display mailpiece images for
a seven-day period; you can also opt to receive these images via
email notification.

To learn more about Informed Delivery notifications, please visit
the Informed Delivery FAQs. We are proud to offer you more insight
into your mail delivery, and thank you for being a valued USPS
customer.

Sincerely,
Your United States Postal Service®
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348071 is a reply to message #347944] Wed, 12 July 2017 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: John W Gintell

On 7/11/17 1:57 AM, Dave Garland wrote:
> On 7/10/2017 2:15 PM, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
>> Got the following email from the U.S. Post Office. Note the digital
>> preview of the envelope.
>>
>> However, to create an account, they put you through the ringer to
>> have a secure password; lots of requirements.
>>
>> ****
>>
>> We are excited to announce that the My USPS application will soon be
>> upgraded to offer you more benefits and convenience.
>>
>> No action is required from you - you will retain your My USPS benefits,
>> but will also have access to Informed Delivery® notifications, a new,
>> free feature that gives you the ability to see a digital preview of your
>> incoming mail. Informed Delivery allows you to view grayscale images of
>> the exterior, address side of your household’s letter-sized mailpieces*
>> on a computer, tablet, or mobile device. This new feature offers the
>> convenience of seeing what is coming to your mailbox - anytime,
>> anywhere.
>
> Well, at least they're being up front that they're photographing everyone's mail.

A few years ago I saw a demo of the mail processing in the South Station, Boston
PO. Each envelope was scanned and a yellow barcode printed on the back. Then
hours later when people in some processing plant (I don't remember where it was)
who read the envelope have entered the correct zip code for the destination in a
database the envelopes are re-scanned using the barcode on the back to identify
the envelope and the barcode of the destination zipcode is printed on the front
and then they go into the sorting machines.
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348529 is a reply to message #347944] Sun, 16 July 2017 14:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Peter Capek

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Garland wrote:

> Well, at least they're being up front that they're photographing
> everyone's mail.

It's a bit late. They've been doing this, that I've known, for at least 10 years, and
possibly quite a bit longer. It's only now that they're publicly acknowledging it.
They had half of what the need to provide this service in place for years, but now
they're adding a user interface to it. Kind of creepy if you ask me.

Peter Capek
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348549 is a reply to message #348529] Mon, 17 July 2017 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-16, capek@ieee.org <Peter Capek> <peter.capek@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>> Well, at least they're being up front that they're photographing
>> everyone's mail.
>
> It's a bit late. They've been doing this, that I've known, for at least
> 10 years, and possibly quite a bit longer. It's only now that they're
> publicly acknowledging it. They had half of what the need to provide this
> service in place for years, but now they're adding a user interface to it.
> Kind of creepy if you ask me.

I've been compiling a list of memes which IMHO are destroying society.
One of them is: "If something can be done, it should be done."

However, a milder form is undisputibly true (at least for us believers
in Murphy's Law): "If something can be done, it will be done."

A bit less urgent, but just as inevitable.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348564 is a reply to message #348529] Mon, 17 July 2017 04:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-16, capek@ieee.org <Peter Capek> <peter.capek@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Garland wrote:
>
>> Well, at least they're being up front that they're photographing
>> everyone's mail.
>
> It's a bit late. They've been doing this, that I've known, for at least 10 years, and
> possibly quite a bit longer. It's only now that they're publicly acknowledging it.
> They had half of what the need to provide this service in place for years, but now
> they're adding a user interface to it. Kind of creepy if you ask me.
>
> Peter Capek

`Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
will pay for to be bugged?.


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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348566 is a reply to message #348564] Mon, 17 July 2017 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 17 Jul 2017 08:16:18 GMT
GreyMaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:

> `Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
> a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
> will pay for to be bugged?.

Apple install one on every iPhone - Siri - which wakes up
unexpectedly from time to time to complain it didn't understand you.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348567 is a reply to message #348566] Mon, 17 July 2017 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

In article <20170717095724.5900d31dad1c4440cef5e0bb@eircom.net>,
steveo@eircom.net says...
>
> On 17 Jul 2017 08:16:18 GMT
> GreyMaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> `Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
>> a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
>> will pay for to be bugged?.
>
> Apple install one on every iPhone - Siri - which wakes up
> unexpectedly from time to time to complain it didn't understand you.

Neither has the purpose of "recording your conversations".

If you don't want siri to listen to you, then turn it off.

They are both devices that operate by voice command. How do you expect
them to understand voice commands if they do not store enough of the sounds
that they recieve to be able to decipher the command?
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348593 is a reply to message #348564] Mon, 17 July 2017 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GreyMaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-07-16, capek@ieee.org <Peter Capek> <peter.capek@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Garland wrote:
>>
>>> Well, at least they're being up front that they're photographing
>>> everyone's mail.
>>
>> It's a bit late. They've been doing this, that I've known, for at least 10 years, and
>> possibly quite a bit longer. It's only now that they're publicly acknowledging it.
>> They had half of what the need to provide this service in place for years, but now
>> they're adding a user interface to it. Kind of creepy if you ask me.
>>
>> Peter Capek
>
> `Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
> a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
> will pay for to be bugged?.
>
>

People seem willing to trade just about anything for convenience. I've see
this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more dishwasher
detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears at your door.
Next best thing to a replicator, if only you didn't have to pay for the
stuff.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348605 is a reply to message #348593] Mon, 17 July 2017 14:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Peter Flass wrote:

> I've see
> this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more dishwasher
> detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears at your door.

I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of thing?

<https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>

Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348638 is a reply to message #348605] Mon, 17 July 2017 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk says...
>
> Peter Flass wrote:
>
>> I've see
>> this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more dishwasher
>> detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears at your door.
>
> I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of thing?
>
> <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>
> Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
> pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...

That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such things--too
easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348647 is a reply to message #348638] Tue, 18 July 2017 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:47:43 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:

> In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
> says...
>>
>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>>> I've see
>>> this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more
>>> dishwasher detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears
>>> at your door.
>>
>> I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of thing?
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>>
>> Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
>> pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
>
> That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such
> things--too easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.

I read recently of a family who let relatives use their house while they
were on holiday. They thought the button was air freshener.

Occupants came back to a large consignment of toilet paper. No cat needed!




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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348648 is a reply to message #348638] Tue, 18 July 2017 04:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-18, J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
> In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk says...
>>
>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>
>>> I've see
>>> this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more dishwasher
>>> detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears at your door.
>>
>> I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of thing?
>>
>> <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>>
>> Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
>> pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
>
> That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such things--too
> easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.

there is a cartoon in a recent `private eye' a very faat cat is lying,
looking up a a parrot, who is instructing the gadget to cut the cat food order
aand double the bird seed. I think the `Internet of things' is insanity


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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348668 is a reply to message #348647] Tue, 18 July 2017 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bob Eager wrote:

[Amazon Dash]

> I read recently of a family who let relatives use their house while they
> were on holiday. They thought the button was air freshener.

Genuine LOL here.

> Occupants came back to a large consignment of toilet paper. No cat needed!
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348672 is a reply to message #348564] Tue, 18 July 2017 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-17, GreyMaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:

> On 2017-07-16, capek@ieee.org <Peter Capek> <peter.capek@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 1:57:50 AM UTC-4, Dave Garland wrote:
>>
>>> Well, at least they're being up front that they're photographing
>>> everyone's mail.
>>
>> It's a bit late. They've been doing this, that I've known, for at least
>> 10 years, and possibly quite a bit longer. It's only now that they're
>> publicly acknowledging it. They had half of what the need to provide this
>> service in place for years, but now they're adding a user interface to it.
>> Kind of creepy if you ask me.
>
> `Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
> a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
> will pay for to be bugged?.

What amazes me is that people think ankle bracelets are creepy,
while eagerly buying smartphones that do the same thing.

The hardware necessary for "Nineteen Eighty-four" has been deployed.
What Orwell (or anyone else, for that matter) didn't realize is that
Big Brother turned out to be not government, but corporations.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348703 is a reply to message #348566] Tue, 18 July 2017 20:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:57:24 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
<steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On 17 Jul 2017 08:16:18 GMT
> GreyMaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> `Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
>> a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
>> will pay for to be bugged?.
>
> Apple install one on every iPhone - Siri - which wakes up
> unexpectedly from time to time to complain it didn't understand you.

I wonder how people who live in Surrey, BC, Canada feel about
Siri. (I grew up there.)

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348737 is a reply to message #348703] Wed, 19 July 2017 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-19, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:57:24 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On 17 Jul 2017 08:16:18 GMT
>> GreyMaus <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> `Creepy' is an appropiate word for the modern world. Amazon is selling
>>> a little gadget (echo?) that will recod your conversations. People
>>> will pay for to be bugged?.
>>
>> Apple install one on every iPhone - Siri - which wakes up
>> unexpectedly from time to time to complain it didn't understand you.
>
> I wonder how people who live in Surrey, BC, Canada feel about
> Siri. (I grew up there.)

I grew up a bit farther east, officially in Surrey but close enough
to Langley (over the hill and all) that many assumed we lived there.

As for Siri, I wonder how many residents of Rootin' Tootin' Newton
call on her services to summon the cops.

"Delta is never having to say you're Surrey."
(My sister lives just over _that_ line.)

[cue the endless stream of Surrey Girl jokes...]

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348778 is a reply to message #348737] Wed, 19 July 2017 15:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 19 Jul 2017 06:52:23 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2017-07-19, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:

[snip]

>> I wonder how people who live in Surrey, BC, Canada feel about
>> Siri. (I grew up there.)
>
> I grew up a bit farther east, officially in Surrey but close enough
> to Langley (over the hill and all) that many assumed we lived there.

In late grade 11 and in grade 12, I lived on 192nd Street just
south of the Fraser Highway so I did that, too.

> As for Siri, I wonder how many residents of Rootin' Tootin' Newton
> call on her services to summon the cops.
>
> "Delta is never having to say you're Surrey."
> (My sister lives just over _that_ line.)
>
> [cue the endless stream of Surrey Girl jokes...]

Or Surrey jokes in general:
Q: Why do birds fly upsidedown over Surrey?
A: Because there is nothing worth shitting on.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348779 is a reply to message #348647] Wed, 19 July 2017 15:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 18 Jul 2017 07:36:30 GMT, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:47:43 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>> In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
>> says...
>>>
>>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've see
>>>> this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more
>>>> dishwasher detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears
>>>> at your door.
>>>
>>> I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of thing?
>>>
>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>>>
>>> Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
>>> pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
>>
>> That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such
>> things--too easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.
>
> I read recently of a family who let relatives use their house while they
> were on holiday. They thought the button was air freshener.
>
> Occupants came back to a large consignment of toilet paper. No cat needed!

Cite, please! I would love to submit this to RISKS.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348780 is a reply to message #348779] Wed, 19 July 2017 15:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> writes:
> On 18 Jul 2017 07:36:30 GMT, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:47:43 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I've see
>>>> > this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more
>>>> > dishwasher detergent", and in the next day or so it magically appears
>>>> > at your door.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of thing?
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>>>>
>>>> Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
>>>> pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
>>>
>>> That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such
>>> things--too easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.
>>
>> I read recently of a family who let relatives use their house while they
>> were on holiday. They thought the button was air freshener.
>>
>> Occupants came back to a large consignment of toilet paper. No cat needed!
>
> Cite, please! I would love to submit this to RISKS.
>

It has the odor of _Urban Legand_...
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348781 is a reply to message #348779] Wed, 19 July 2017 16:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 12:25:47 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:

> On 18 Jul 2017 07:36:30 GMT, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:47:43 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>>
>>> In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > I've see
>>>> > this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more
>>>> > dishwasher detergent", and in the next day or so it magically
>>>> > appears at your door.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of
>>>> thing?
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>>>>
>>>> Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
>>>> pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
>>>
>>> That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such
>>> things--too easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.
>>
>> I read recently of a family who let relatives use their house while they
>> were on holiday. They thought the button was air freshener.
>>
>> Occupants came back to a large consignment of toilet paper. No cat
>> needed!
>
> Cite, please! I would love to submit this to RISKS.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Gene Wirchenko

It was a while ago. I'll see if I can find it. But you're right - it
should go in RISKS, although I guess it's just a documentation error. (I
wrote a manual for our house)




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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348782 is a reply to message #348780] Wed, 19 July 2017 16:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 19:47:35 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> writes:
>> On 18 Jul 2017 07:36:30 GMT, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 22:47:43 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <et4dghFl1g2U1@mid.individual.net>, usenet@andyburns.uk
>>>> says...
>>>> >
>>>> > Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > I've see
>>>> > > this thing in action and it's truly magical: "Alexa, order more
>>>> > > dishwasher detergent", and in the next day or so it magically
>>>> > > appears at your door.
>>>> >
>>>> > I thought you were meant to buy "Dash Buttons" for that sort of
>>>> > thing?
>>>> >
>>>> > <https://www.amazon.com/Dishwasher-Dash-Button/dp/B0187TOOEI>
>>>> >
>>>> > Press the relevant button and detergent, shampoo, cat litter, coffee
>>>> > pods, etc arrive tout de suite ...
>>>>
>>>> That's also an option. I'm not sure why anyone would buy such
>>>> things--too easy for the cat to order a truckload of toilet paper.
>>>
>>> I read recently of a family who let relatives use their house while
>>> they were on holiday. They thought the button was air freshener.
>>>
>>> Occupants came back to a large consignment of toilet paper. No cat
>>> needed!
>>
>> Cite, please! I would love to submit this to RISKS.
>>
>>
> It has the odor of _Urban Legand_...

It does indeed. I'll try and find it. It's not on Snopes.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348798 is a reply to message #348778] Wed, 19 July 2017 19:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-19, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:

> On 19 Jul 2017 06:52:23 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-07-19, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>> I wonder how people who live in Surrey, BC, Canada feel about
>>> Siri. (I grew up there.)
>>
>> I grew up a bit farther east, officially in Surrey but close enough
>> to Langley (over the hill and all) that many assumed we lived there.
>
> In late grade 11 and in grade 12, I lived on 192nd Street just
> south of the Fraser Highway so I did that, too.

Right around the corner from me. Go up to Fraser Highway, turn
right, down the hill half a mile, right across from the trailer park.

>> As for Siri, I wonder how many residents of Rootin' Tootin' Newton
>> call on her services to summon the cops.
>>
>> "Delta is never having to say you're Surrey."
>> (My sister lives just over _that_ line.)
>>
>> [cue the endless stream of Surrey Girl jokes...]
>
> Or Surrey jokes in general:
> Q: Why do birds fly upsidedown over Surrey?
> A: Because there is nothing worth shitting on.

Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348810 is a reply to message #348798] Thu, 20 July 2017 02:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> On 2017-07-19, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>
>> On 19 Jul 2017 06:52:23 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-07-19, Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>>> I wonder how people who live in Surrey, BC, Canada feel about
>>>> Siri. (I grew up there.)
>>>
>>> I grew up a bit farther east, officially in Surrey but close enough
>>> to Langley (over the hill and all) that many assumed we lived there.
>>
>> In late grade 11 and in grade 12, I lived on 192nd Street just
>> south of the Fraser Highway so I did that, too.
>
> Right around the corner from me. Go up to Fraser Highway, turn
> right, down the hill half a mile, right across from the trailer park.
>
>>> As for Siri, I wonder how many residents of Rootin' Tootin' Newton
>>> call on her services to summon the cops.
>>>
>>> "Delta is never having to say you're Surrey."
>>> (My sister lives just over _that_ line.)
>>>
>>> [cue the endless stream of Surrey Girl jokes...]
>>
>> Or Surrey jokes in general:
>> Q: Why do birds fly upsidedown over Surrey?
>> A: Because there is nothing worth shitting on.
>
> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.

Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:

Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
A: To get their handbags back.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348839 is a reply to message #348810] Thu, 20 July 2017 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>
> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>
> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
> A: To get their handbags back.

Oh, all right:

Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
A: To keep their ankles warm.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348853 is a reply to message #348839] Thu, 20 July 2017 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>
>> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>
>> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>> A: To get their handbags back.
>
> Oh, all right:
>
> Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
> A: To keep their ankles warm.
>

If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
surprised. ;-)

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348886 is a reply to message #348853] Fri, 21 July 2017 03:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500
Charles Richmond <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:

> On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>
>>> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>
>>> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>> A: To get their handbags back.
>>
>> Oh, all right:
>>
>> Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>> A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>
>
> If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
> highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
> surprised. ;-)

First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348887 is a reply to message #348886] Fri, 21 July 2017 03:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:11:33 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:

> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500 Charles Richmond
> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> > A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>>
>>>> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>>
>>>> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>>> A: To get their handbags back.
>>>
>>> Oh, all right:
>>>
>>> Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>>> A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>>
>>>
>> If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
>> highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
>> surprised. ;-)
>
> First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.

Ought to be the road from London to Brighton, surely?

When I was at school, they put on a disco for us (posh boys' school,
partly fee paying although I was scholarship) and Roedean.

They arrived with an *army* of chaperones ...



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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348905 is a reply to message #348887] Fri, 21 July 2017 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:11:33 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500 Charles Richmond
>> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> >> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>> >
>>>> > Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>> >
>>>> > Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>>> > A: To get their handbags back.
>>>>
>>>> Oh, all right:
>>>>
>>>> Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>>>> A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
>>> highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
>>> surprised. ;-)
>>
>> First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.
>
> Ought to be the road from London to Brighton, surely?
>
> When I was at school, they put on a disco for us (posh boys' school,
> partly fee paying although I was scholarship) and Roedean.
>
> They arrived with an *army* of chaperones ...
>
>
>

Hint for those of us who lived in the real world. Were the chaperones
good looking :)


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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348911 is a reply to message #348905] Fri, 21 July 2017 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:42:33 +0000, GreyMaus wrote:

> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:11:33 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500 Charles Richmond
>>> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> > On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT Charlie Gibbs
>>>> >> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> >>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>>> >> A: To get their handbags back.
>>>> >
>>>> > Oh, all right:
>>>> >
>>>> > Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>>>> > A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
>>>> highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
>>>> surprised. ;-)
>>>
>>> First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.
>>
>> Ought to be the road from London to Brighton, surely?
>>
>> When I was at school, they put on a disco for us (posh boys' school,
>> partly fee paying although I was scholarship) and Roedean.
>>
>> They arrived with an *army* of chaperones ...
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Hint for those of us who lived in the real world. Were the chaperones
> good looking :)

No.



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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348913 is a reply to message #348911] Fri, 21 July 2017 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:42:33 +0000, GreyMaus wrote:
>
>> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:11:33 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500 Charles Richmond
>>>> <numerist@aquaporin4.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> > > On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT Charlie Gibbs
>>>> > >> <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> > >>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>>> > >> A: To get their handbags back.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Oh, all right:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>>>> > > A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
>>>> > highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
>>>> > surprised. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.
>>>
>>> Ought to be the road from London to Brighton, surely?
>>>
>>> When I was at school, they put on a disco for us (posh boys' school,
>>> partly fee paying although I was scholarship) and Roedean.
>>>
>>> They arrived with an *army* of chaperones ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Hint for those of us who lived in the real world. Were the chaperones
>> good looking :)
>
> No.
>
>
>
Who chaperones the chaperones, at the top, is there one super chaperone,
grim of eye, rough of skin, and no perfume, but a vestigal moustach.


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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348939 is a reply to message #348913] Fri, 21 July 2017 16:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-4, GreyMaus wrote:
> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <DELETED> wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:42:33 +0000, GreyMaus wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <DELETED> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:11:33 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500 Charles Richmond
>>>> > <DELETED> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >> > On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <DELETED> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT Charlie Gibbs
>>>> >> >> <DELETED>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> >> >>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>>> >> >> A: To get their handbags back.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Oh, all right:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>>>> >> > A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
>>>> >> highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
>>>> >> surprised. ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.
>>>>
>>>> Ought to be the road from London to Brighton, surely?
>>>>
>>>> When I was at school, they put on a disco for us (posh boys' school,
>>>> partly fee paying although I was scholarship) and Roedean.
>>>>
>>>> They arrived with an *army* of chaperones ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Hint for those of us who lived in the real world. Were the chaperones
>>> good looking :)
>>
>> No.
>>
>>
>>
> Who chaperones the chaperones, at the top, is there one super chaperone,
> grim of eye, rough of skin, and no perfume, but a vestigal moustach.
>
>
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The top-level super chaperone grew upper lip hair as a habit?

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Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348953 is a reply to message #348939] Fri, 21 July 2017 21:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke

In article <57e9374a-d0ef-48f1-ae17-ba35dc91c06a@googlegroups.com>,
bbreynolds@aol.com says...
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-4, GreyMaus wrote:
>> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <DELETED> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:42:33 +0000, GreyMaus wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <DELETED> wrote:
>>>> > On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 08:11:33 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 16:05:03 -0500 Charles Richmond
>>>> >> <DELETED> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On 7/20/2017 1:12 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> >>> > On 2017-07-20, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <DELETED> wrote:
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >> On 19 Jul 2017 23:11:39 GMT Charlie Gibbs
>>>> >>> >> <DELETED>
>>>> >>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >>> Q: What do Surrey kids get for Christmas?
>>>> >>> >>> A: Burnaby kids' bicycles.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Hmm is there an equivalent to the Dublin one:
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Q: Why do southside girls chase northside boys ?
>>>> >>> >> A: To get their handbags back.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Oh, all right:
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > Q: Why do Surrey girls wear panties?
>>>> >>> > A: To keep their ankles warm.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> If you took all the girls from Vassar and laid them end to end on the
>>>> >>> highway from New York City to Albany... I would *not* be a bit
>>>> >>> surprised. ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> First heard that about Roedean - no mention of which road though.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ought to be the road from London to Brighton, surely?
>>>> >
>>>> > When I was at school, they put on a disco for us (posh boys' school,
>>>> > partly fee paying although I was scholarship) and Roedean.
>>>> >
>>>> > They arrived with an *army* of chaperones ...
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Hint for those of us who lived in the real world. Were the chaperones
>>>> good looking :)
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Who chaperones the chaperones, at the top, is there one super chaperone,
>> grim of eye, rough of skin, and no perfume, but a vestigal moustach.
>>
>>
>> --
>> greymaus.ireland.ie
>> Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
>
> The top-level super chaperone grew upper lip hair as a habit?

That's a lot of moustache.
Re: US Post Office computer upgrades [message #348968 is a reply to message #348939] Sat, 22 July 2017 03:37 Go to previous message
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On 2017-07-21, TrailingEdgeTechnologies <bbreynolds@aol.com> wrote:
> On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 12:39:39 PM UTC-4, GreyMaus wrote:
>> On 2017-07-21, Bob Eager <DELETED> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 13:42:33 +0000, GreyMaus wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> Hint for those of us who lived in the real world. Were the chaperones
>>>> good looking :)
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Who chaperones the chaperones, at the top, is there one super chaperone,
>> grim of eye, rough of skin, and no perfume, but a vestigal moustach.
>>
>>
>> --
>> greymaus.ireland.ie
>> Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
>
> The top-level super chaperone grew upper lip hair as a habit?
>
> Bruce B. Reynolds, Horsham PA





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Priest: "Well, don't get into the habit"
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