A 80' Apple II BBS [message #343838] |
Sat, 03 June 2017 00:41 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
A 80's Apple II BBS is on air:
a80sappleiibbs.ddns.net:6502
The BBS is running on a real Apple IIe with a Doudisk. The Software is GBBS Pro V1.2.
The goal is to have a BBS in the style of the 80's.
Enjoy!
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #343996 is a reply to message #343992] |
Tue, 06 June 2017 17:10 |
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony
On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 02:34:24 UTC+10, 6502en...@gmail.com wrote:
> Added the first VisiCalc sheet from the book "Doing Business with VisiCalc" to the download section.
Has this book been scanned, or are the spreadsheets available anywhere? I'd like to use them to test my Visicalc emulator.
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #344002 is a reply to message #343996] |
Wed, 07 June 2017 02:30 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
Hi Denis,
well, most of them I had sent to you in an email on disk images some weeks ago.
But you can also get easy an account on A 80's Apple II BBS.
After verifying your account you'll have access to the download section.
You can use:
An Apple II:
using f.e. ASCII Express Pro with the WiFi232 or tcpser on a PI makes you able to download the sheet's from the BBS.
or a modern machine, f.e. a MacBook:
using Terminal - Logon - X for Downloads - select the sheet you want - A for ASCII download - Return and the download starts - copy and paste the downloaded text into the .dsk you want to use.
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #344004 is a reply to message #344002] |
Wed, 07 June 2017 03:08 |
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Originally posted by: Denis Molony
On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:30:38 UTC+10, 6502en...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Denis,
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> well, most of them I had sent to you in an email on disk images some weeks ago.
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> But you can also get easy an account on A 80's Apple II BBS.
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> After verifying your account you'll have access to the download section.
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> You can use:
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> or a modern machine, f.e. a MacBook:
> using Terminal - Logon - X for Downloads - select the sheet you want - A for ASCII download - Return and the download starts - copy and paste the downloaded text into the .dsk you want to use.
Ah, I didn't realise what book they came from. Thanks again for that, they are all working now.
Could you tell me how to connect to the BBS using terminal? I've never tried that before. I tried telnet (as a wild guess), but it gave me an error.
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347896 is a reply to message #347853] |
Sun, 09 July 2017 18:59 |
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Originally posted by: Jeff Ramsey
I have a few questions about how your connections work.
1) What hardware does your Apple II use to connect to the Internet?
2) Does it support multiple simultaneous users?
Reason I ask is that I was dreaming up things to do with this Laser 128 (IIc clone) that I recently acquired. One idea that I came up with was to to setup a MUD. If I setup a MUD, I will want it to be telnet based, and I would need to workout the networking connectivity.
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347919 is a reply to message #347896] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 05:11 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
> 1) What hardware does your Apple II use to connect to the Internet?
A 80's Apple II BBS has the following components:
All built till 1985:
Apple IIe enhanced.
GBBS Pro V1.2 DOS3.3.
Disk interface card.
Timemaster II H.O..
Super Serial Card.
Apple Duodisk.
Necessary modern components:
A fan to cool the System.
Raspberry PI Model B.
The SSC is connected via an Serial to USB adapter to the PI, which is connected via WiFi to the router. Tcpser is running on the PI and emulates a Hayes Modem with 2400 baud (GBBS Pro V1.2 DOS3.3 allows in it's basic version max. 2400 baud - this is fine because A 80's Apple II BBS is a beginning 80's BBS-which is also the reason why I use 5.25 disks and no hard drive (CFFA)).
> 2) Does it support multiple simultaneous users?
No, not so far. GBBS Pro V1.2 DOS3.3 offers 1 landline connection in it's basic version. But for the future I want to work on different modifications. Maybe there is a possibility to open the system for more members at the same time. My goal is to open a second line to the board with a real landline dial-up.
But I really want to offer a BBS with software and hardware of the beginning 80's - so there are limitations in doing too much.
At first I tried to use Networks II as BBS software. I set up a BBS with that great software, but the problem is that Networks II only accepts the Hayes Micromodem II and that had not the later AT commands that tcpser needs. Moreover I see no possibility to connect the Micromodem II card to the PI. So the result would have been a BBS that is only reachable via landline AND only with a few modems that can work with 300 baud which is the maximum that the Micromodem II offers.
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347946 is a reply to message #347919] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 14:59 |
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Originally posted by: James Davis
On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 2:11:51 AM UTC-7, 6502en...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 1) What hardware does your Apple II use to connect to the Internet?
>
> A 80's Apple II BBS has the following components:
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> All built till 1985:
> Apple IIe enhanced.
> GBBS Pro V1.2 DOS3.3.
> Disk interface card.
> Timemaster II H.O..
> Super Serial Card.
> Apple Duodisk.
>
> Necessary modern components:
> A fan to cool the System.
> Raspberry PI Model B.
>
> The SSC is connected via an Serial to USB adapter to the PI, which is connected via WiFi to the router. Tcpser is running on the PI and emulates a Hayes Modem with 2400 baud (GBBS Pro V1.2 DOS3.3 allows in it's basic version max. 2400 baud - this is fine because A 80's Apple II BBS is a beginning 80's BBS-which is also the reason why I use 5.25 disks and no hard drive (CFFA)).
>
>> 2) Does it support multiple simultaneous users?
>
> No, not so far. GBBS Pro V1.2 DOS3.3 offers 1 landline connection in it's basic version. But for the future I want to work on different modifications. Maybe there is a possibility to open the system for more members at the same time. My goal is to open a second line to the board with a real landline dial-up.
>
> But I really want to offer a BBS with software and hardware of the beginning 80's - so there are limitations in doing too much.
> At first I tried to use Networks II as BBS software. I set up a BBS with that great software, but the problem is that Networks II only accepts the Hayes Micromodem II and that had not the later AT commands that tcpser needs.. Moreover I see no possibility to connect the Micromodem II card to the PI.. So the result would have been a BBS that is only reachable via landline AND only with a few modems that can work with 300 baud which is the maximum that the Micromodem II offers.
Couldn't you run multiple virtual Apple II's (AppleWin/Emulator Tasks?) on the Apple II Pi to Service multiple BBS users (e.g., like a Server) and not even need any real Apple II computers/hardware?
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347948 is a reply to message #347946] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 16:05 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
> Couldn't you run multiple virtual Apple II's (AppleWin/Emulator Tasks?) on the Apple II Pi to Service multiple BBS users (e.g., like a Server) and not even need any real Apple II computers/hardware?
Yes, of course I could use emulators - but this is not what I want.
As the name "A 80's Apple II BBS" says - I want to offer a REAL Apple II BBS running on a real Apple II using real 5.25 disks. All authentic, original, pure real Apple II! :-)
Therefore are all used hardware parts made before 1985!
There are a lot of very good BBS systems out there that are running on emulators or linux systems. They are great and I like them!
But my goal with A 80's Apple II BBS really is to offer a special profiled BBS. A BBS as they were also running at the beginning of the 80's - the great Apple II time. A BBS that gives the people a place to talk, to download great stuff like VisiCalc sheets that are still very useful and to enjoy this unique atmosphere of the Apple II.
Apple II Forever!
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347952 is a reply to message #347949] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 16:56 |
Michael AppleWin Debu
Messages: 1262 Registered: March 2013
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On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:32:47 PM UTC-7, Antoine Vignau wrote:
> We may have the chance to download the latest Apple II warez there!
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> ugly.pirate
And ironically pirates were responsible for _preserving_ software that would otherwise have been lost.
0 day warez? Phfft. Where is my 30 year warez? :-)
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347954 is a reply to message #347952] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 17:58 |
D Finnigan
Messages: 1171 Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
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Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev' wrote:
> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:32:47 PM UTC-7, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>> We may have the chance to download the latest Apple II warez there!
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>> ugly.pirate
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> And ironically pirates were responsible for _preserving_ software that
> would otherwise have been lost.
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> 0 day warez? Phfft. Where is my 30 year warez? :-)
>
Phfft. Where is Dr Tom Charles Turley? :-)
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347957 is a reply to message #347954] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 18:41 |
Polymorph
Messages: 206 Registered: October 2012
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On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 8:02:07 AM UTC+10, D Finnigan wrote:
> Michael 'AppleWin Debugger Dev' wrote:
>> On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:32:47 PM UTC-7, Antoine Vignau wrote:
>>> We may have the chance to download the latest Apple II warez there!
>>>
>>> ugly.pirate
>>
>> And ironically pirates were responsible for _preserving_ software that
>> would otherwise have been lost.
>>
>> 0 day warez? Phfft. Where is my 30 year warez? :-)
>>
>
> Phfft. Where is Dr Tom Charles Turley? :-)
Phfft. Where is Quantum Cat? >:-P
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #347961 is a reply to message #347948] |
Mon, 10 July 2017 19:08 |
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Originally posted by: James Davis
On Monday, July 10, 2017 at 1:05:59 PM UTC-7, 6502en...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Couldn't you run multiple virtual Apple II's (AppleWin/Emulator Tasks?) on the Apple II Pi to Service multiple BBS users (e.g., like a Server) and not even need any real Apple II computers/hardware?
>
> Yes, of course I could use emulators - but this is not what I want.
>
> As the name "A 80's Apple II BBS" says - I want to offer a REAL Apple II BBS running on a real Apple II using real 5.25 disks. All authentic, original, pure real Apple II! :-)
>
> Therefore are all used hardware parts made before 1985!
>
> There are a lot of very good BBS systems out there that are running on emulators or linux systems. They are great and I like them!
>
> But my goal with A 80's Apple II BBS really is to offer a special profiled BBS. A BBS as they were also running at the beginning of the 80's - the great Apple II time. A BBS that gives the people a place to talk, to download great stuff like VisiCalc sheets that are still very useful and to enjoy this unique atmosphere of the Apple II.
>
> Apple II Forever!
Cool! Sorry, I forgot that you already said something similar above. CRS!
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #348960 is a reply to message #348959] |
Sat, 22 July 2017 01:24 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
No, it is running.
But please excuse the discomfort!
I had problems with a client that should start tcpser when it stopped working. The client starts tcpser but sometimes with a long delay.
At the moment I'm on vacation - will be back at the beginning of the next week. From here I check the BBS with my IPhone and I saw that tcpser was down and then started again.
Excuse the trouble - all this makes me very uncomfortable - A 80's Apple II will run without breaks next week again perfectly all right!
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Re: A 80' Apple II BBS [message #350112 is a reply to message #349719] |
Sun, 06 August 2017 09:46 |
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Originally posted by: 6502enhanced
A 80's Apple II BBS is now running for two month's. In that time we got more than 550 calls and our member's wrote more than 130 bulletins!
Thank you for making such a great Apple II BBS!
Therefore the BBS is running on a real Apple II with real 5.25 disks we had to archive the first decade of bulletins.
Top Topics on the bulletin board can always be found in system news - just press "$" from the main menu.
Here is a short overview:
Top Topics on A 80’s Apple II BBS at Bulletin #:
Host a BBS with WiFi232?
Starting at Bulletin #15 f.
Paul Rickards, maker of the WiFi232, on „host a BBS with the WiFi232“
Bulletins #23 #36
Will WiFi232 production be stopped - article in Juiced.GS?
Starting at Bulletin #26 f., #40
French law to disconnect
Starting at Bulletin #37 f.
Visicorp Apple II Disk Utilities for internal use only
Bulletin #57
WiFi232 production
WiFi232 host a BBS
Telnet with just a serial cable
Starting at Bulletin #58 f.
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