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| Re: Classic II [message #342322 is a reply to message #342321] |
Wed, 07 June 2017 10:16   |
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> On Jun 7, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
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> shows ‘Welcome to Apple Installer’. I put in the Install 1 disc and it reads it ok, however, it tells me that I cannot use this disc to install on?
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> Install and Switch Disc is dimmed, where am I going wrong or what am I not doing correctly? All help and advice is very welcome…
It is not seeing your hard disk drive. Did you use HD SC Setup or Disk Utility to format the hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342324 is a reply to message #342322] |
Wed, 07 June 2017 12:20 |
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No Dylan, I didn’t use HD SC Setup or the Utility Disc either, I’ll try it now…
Thank you, much appreciated
Ian
> On 7 Jun 2017, at 15:16, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
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>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> shows ‘Welcome to Apple Installer’. I put in the Install 1 disc and it reads it ok, however, it tells me that I cannot use this disc to install on?
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>> Install and Switch Disc is dimmed, where am I going wrong or what am I not doing correctly? All help and advice is very welcome…
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> It is not seeing your hard disk drive. Did you use HD SC Setup or Disk Utility to format the hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342327 is a reply to message #342322] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 07:09 |
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I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
The Hard Drive was fine before I had the recap repair, so I thought refitting the board would make everything OK
Do you think that I’ll need to get a replacement Hard Drive? Can I use a new cheap modern Hard Drive and load the floppy disc’s onto that?
> On 7 Jun 2017, at 15:16, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
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>> On Jun 7, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> shows ‘Welcome to Apple Installer’. I put in the Install 1 disc and it reads it ok, however, it tells me that I cannot use this disc to install on?
>>
>> Install and Switch Disc is dimmed, where am I going wrong or what am I not doing correctly? All help and advice is very welcome…
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> It is not seeing your hard disk drive. Did you use HD SC Setup or Disk Utility to format the hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342331 is a reply to message #342327] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 10:18 |
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> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD SC Setup, Lido, etc).
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| Re: Classic II [message #342335 is a reply to message #342331] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 12:37 |
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It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the Classic II new myself back in the day.
It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
Ian
> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
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>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
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> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD SC Setup, Lido, etc).
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| Re: Classic II [message #342336 is a reply to message #342335] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 13:16 |
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At 27 years old most of them go bad. Might try pulling the cover and putting a new rubber stopper substance on the pin as the arm gets stuck to those sometimes.
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Subject: Re: Classic II
It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the Classic II new myself back in the day.
It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
Ian
> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
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>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
>
> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD SC Setup, Lido, etc).
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| Re: Classic II [message #342337 is a reply to message #342336] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 14:40 |
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yeah ( it worked before ) ( XXXXX ) that does not hold up with
vintage stuffs, anything can die at any time, with no given reason.
Even after a re-cap a board can work fine for a while and then just
die. Depending on how long it was allowed to sit and rot with cap goo
all over it. A rotted up board even a feshly recapped one can pretty
much die at any point and need schematic/meter as partially rotted
traces / via's can pretty much go at any point.... especially for the
guy that does the re-cap... that whole it worked fine but the sounds
was out... i love that... go and do the re-cap and its now dead...
well after the wash, pad scrub, tooth brush to get all the goo out
form under the I/C's... Ultrasonic cleaner... anything can happen
at any time. usually a good chunk of the time, a board that just has
dead sound but other wise works, comes right back after the
wash/re-cap... but not all the time.
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Jason Johnson <havokalien@hotmail.com> wrote:
> At 27 years old most of them go bad. Might try pulling the cover and
> putting a new rubber stopper substance on the pin as the arm gets stuck to
> those sometimes.
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> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:37:07 AM
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Classic II
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> It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted
> the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the
> Classic II new myself back in the day.
>
> It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
>
> Ian
>
>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
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>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the
>>> initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
>>
>> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either
>> need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD
>> SC Setup, Lido, etc).
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| Re: Classic II [message #342338 is a reply to message #342336] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 14:41 |
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I’ll try that and check that it’s free to spin
> On 8 Jun 2017, at 18:16, Jason Johnson <havokalien@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> At 27 years old most of them go bad. Might try pulling the cover and putting a new rubber stopper substance on the pin as the arm gets stuck to those sometimes.
> From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:37:07 AM
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Classic II
>
> It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the Classic II new myself back in the day.
>
> It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
>
> Ian
>
>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
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>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
>>
>> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD SC Setup, Lido, etc).
>>
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| Re: Classic II [message #342339 is a reply to message #342338] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 14:44 |
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scsi2sd when they are up on ebay for a reasonable price are a good buy
between 60-70 bucks... also the classic and classic II support HD20
hard drive mode from the floppy port so a BMOW FLOPPY emu is really
great to own! floppy disks and floppy drives are also unreliable!
On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
> I’ll try that and check that it’s free to spin
>
> On 8 Jun 2017, at 18:16, Jason Johnson <havokalien@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> At 27 years old most of them go bad. Might try pulling the cover and
> putting a new rubber stopper substance on the pin as the arm gets stuck to
> those sometimes.
> ________________________________
> From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> on
> behalf of Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:37:07 AM
> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Classic II
>
> It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted
> the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the
> Classic II new myself back in the day.
>
> It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
>
> Ian
>
>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the
>>> initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
>>
>> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either
>> need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD
>> SC Setup, Lido, etc).
>>
>> - Dylan
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| Re: Classic II [message #342340 is a reply to message #342339] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 14:52 |
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That’s real great information the type spec’s will establish what I should look for in the modern day HD market
Ian
> On 8 Jun 2017, at 19:44, Hardware Mack <hardwaremack@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> scsi2sd when they are up on ebay for a reasonable price are a good buy
> between 60-70 bucks... also the classic and classic II support HD20
> hard drive mode from the floppy port so a BMOW FLOPPY emu is really
> great to own! floppy disks and floppy drives are also unreliable!
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I’ll try that and check that it’s free to spin
>>
>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 18:16, Jason Johnson <havokalien@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> At 27 years old most of them go bad. Might try pulling the cover and
>> putting a new rubber stopper substance on the pin as the arm gets stuck to
>> those sometimes.
>> ________________________________
>> From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> on
>> behalf of Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:37:07 AM
>> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Classic II
>>
>> It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted
>> the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the
>> Classic II new myself back in the day.
>>
>> It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the
>>>> initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
>>>
>>> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either
>>> need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD
>>> SC Setup, Lido, etc).
>>>
>>> - Dylan
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| Re: Classic II [message #342344 is a reply to message #342340] |
Thu, 08 June 2017 22:59 |
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Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
Ian
> On 8 Jun 2017, at 19:52, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That’s real great information the type spec’s will establish what I should look for in the modern day HD market
>
> Ian
>
>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 19:44, Hardware Mack <hardwaremack@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> scsi2sd when they are up on ebay for a reasonable price are a good buy
>> between 60-70 bucks... also the classic and classic II support HD20
>> hard drive mode from the floppy port so a BMOW FLOPPY emu is really
>> great to own! floppy disks and floppy drives are also unreliable!
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I’ll try that and check that it’s free to spin
>>>
>>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 18:16, Jason Johnson <havokalien@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> At 27 years old most of them go bad. Might try pulling the cover and
>>> putting a new rubber stopper substance on the pin as the arm gets stuck to
>>> those sometimes.
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com <vintage-macs@googlegroups.com> on
>>> behalf of Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:37:07 AM
>>> To: vintage-macs@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Classic II
>>>
>>> It’s the original Classic II Apple drive which worked fine until I fitted
>>> the recapped board back, I know it’s the original HD because I bought the
>>> Classic II new myself back in the day.
>>>
>>> It’s quite frustrating to know that the Hard Drive was OK until the repairs.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
>>>> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:18, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Jun 8, 2017, at 4:09 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I used the Disk first Aid floppy and it reported no fault, however, the
>>>> > initialise button was ‘dimmed out’ so I couldn’t do it?
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like it is not an Apple-branded drive. If it is not, you either
>>>> need an Apple branded drive or a different formatting tool (the “hacked” HD
>>>> SC Setup, Lido, etc).
>>>>
>>>> - Dylan
>>>>
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| Re: Classic II [message #342346 is a reply to message #342344] |
Fri, 09 June 2017 10:19 |
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You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm
- Dylan
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>
> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342347 is a reply to message #342346] |
Fri, 09 June 2017 10:22 |
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I'll second this. SCSI2SD is absolutely the way to go.
- Justin
> On Jun 9, 2017, at 09:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>
> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>
> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD
>
> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm
>
> - Dylan
>
>
>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>
>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342348 is a reply to message #342346] |
Fri, 09 June 2017 10:25 |
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That’s great information Dylan, Thank you for your patience I’ll go with what you have suggested
Ian
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>
> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>
> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>
> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>
> - Dylan
>
>
>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>
>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342349 is a reply to message #342348] |
Fri, 09 June 2017 15:01 |
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Ya dylan is the man! And has a killer collection too! :)
On Jun 9, 2017 10:25 AM, "Ian Tonge" <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
> That’s great information Dylan, Thank you for your patience I’ll go with
> what you have suggested
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>
> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack
> said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right
> into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI
> drive on the used market (USD 59).
>
> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD
>
> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm
>
> - Dylan
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d
> prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which
> may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose,
> type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>
> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the
> physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small
> capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original
> hard drive?
>
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| Re: Classic II [message #342350 is a reply to message #342349] |
Fri, 09 June 2017 18:22 |
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Dylan do you have a You Tube site so I can see your Mac collection?
Ian
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 20:01, Hardware Mack <hardwaremack@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Ya dylan is the man! And has a killer collection too! :)
>
> On Jun 9, 2017 10:25 AM, "Ian Tonge" <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
> That’s great information Dylan, Thank you for your patience I’ll go with what you have suggested
>
> Ian
>
>
>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net <mailto:dylan@mcdermond.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>>
>> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>>
>> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>>
>> - Dylan
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>>
>>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
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| Re: Classic II [message #342352 is a reply to message #342348] |
Mon, 12 June 2017 07:34 |
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Hello Dylan, it seems I can’t buy what you suggested for my Mac Classic II in the UK, so do you have a recommended supplier in the U.S. that I can buy from who will ship to the UK.?
Ian
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:25, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That’s great information Dylan, Thank you for your patience I’ll go with what you have suggested
>
> Ian
>
>
>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net <mailto:dylan@mcdermond.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>>
>> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>>
>> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>>
>> - Dylan
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>>
>>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
>>
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| Re: Classic II [message #342355 is a reply to message #342346] |
Sat, 17 June 2017 06:06 |
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Hello Dylan
I can’t seem to source the items that you suggested to replace my faulty Classic II hard-drive, so I can’t get it up-and-running at the moment.
Do you have a supplier in mind who I can contact?
Regards
Ian
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>
> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>
> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>
> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>
> - Dylan
>
>
>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>
>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
>
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| Re: Classic II [message #342356 is a reply to message #342355] |
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have a look at http://store.inertialcomputing.com/ <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/>
I recently bought 4 pcs. delivered to europe at a reasonable price.
Regards Frank
> Am 17.06.2017 um 12:06 schrieb Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com>:
>
> Hello Dylan
>
> I can’t seem to source the items that you suggested to replace my faulty Classic II hard-drive, so I can’t get it up-and-running at the moment.
>
> Do you have a supplier in mind who I can contact?
>
> Regards
>
> Ian
>
>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net <mailto:dylan@mcdermond.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>>
>> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>>
>> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>>
>> - Dylan
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>>
>>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
>>
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| Re: Classic II [message #342357 is a reply to message #342356] |
Sat, 17 June 2017 13:23 |
Ian Tonge
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Thank you Frank, very helpful
Ian
> On 17 Jun 2017, at 13:16, je03@jagdt.com wrote:
>
> have a look at http://store.inertialcomputing.com/ <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/>
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> I recently bought 4 pcs. delivered to europe at a reasonable price.
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> Regards Frank
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>> Am 17.06.2017 um 12:06 schrieb Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>>:
>>
>> Hello Dylan
>>
>> I can’t seem to source the items that you suggested to replace my faulty Classic II hard-drive, so I can’t get it up-and-running at the moment.
>>
>> Do you have a supplier in mind who I can contact?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net <mailto:dylan@mcdermond.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>>>
>>> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>>>
>>> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>>>
>>> - Dylan
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>>>
>>>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
>>>
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| Re: Classic II [message #347191 is a reply to message #342355] |
Tue, 27 June 2017 09:30 |
Ian Tonge
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Hello Dylan
He never got back to me about this?
So I guess I’ll need to try somone else in the UK for a replacement HD for my Mac Classic II, any idea’s?
Ian
> On 17 Jun 2017, at 11:06, Ian Tonge <iantonge@me.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Dylan
>
> I can’t seem to source the items that you suggested to replace my faulty Classic II hard-drive, so I can’t get it up-and-running at the moment.
>
> Do you have a supplier in mind who I can contact?
>
> Regards
>
> Ian
>
>> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net <mailto:dylan@mcdermond.net>> wrote:
>>
>> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said, I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the used market (USD 59).
>>
>> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD <http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD>
>>
>> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm <http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm>
>>
>> - Dylan
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com <mailto:itonge@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose, type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>>>
>>> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original hard drive?
>>
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| Re: Classic II [message #347192 is a reply to message #347191] |
Tue, 27 June 2017 09:47 |
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http://store.inertialcomputing.com/default.asp
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Dylan
>
> He never got back to me about this?
>
> So I guess I’ll need to try somone else in the UK for a replacement HD for
> my Mac Classic II, any idea’s?
>
> Ian
>
>
> On 17 Jun 2017, at 11:06, Ian Tonge <iantonge@me.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Dylan
>
> I can’t seem to source the items that you suggested to replace my faulty
> Classic II hard-drive, so I can’t get it up-and-running at the moment.
>
> Do you have a supplier in mind who I can contact?
>
> Regards
>
> Ian
>
> On 9 Jun 2017, at 15:19, Dylan McDermond <dylan@mcdermond.net> wrote:
>
> You are not going to find a “new” 50-pin SCSI drive. Like hardwaremack said,
> I’d look at getting a SCSI2SD. More reliable. Quieter. Plugs right into the
> the existing wiring. About the same price as a large, old SCSI drive on the
> used market (USD 59).
>
> http://www.codesrc.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=SCSI2SD
>
> http://store.inertialcomputing.com/category-s/100.htm
>
> - Dylan
>
>
> On Jun 8, 2017, at 7:59 PM, Ian Tonge <itonge@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Can anyone suggest a replacement hard drive for my Mac Classic II? I’d
> prefer to buy a new low spec hard drive and not rely on an old unit which
> may fail after a short time. I’ll need to know what manufacturer to choose,
> type, part number, and spec of hard drive?
>
> What the connection compatibility is and a wiring diagram, and are the
> physical dimensions able to directly ’swap-out’ the hard drive. A small
> capacity is fine, I just need to know what to order to replace my original
> hard drive?
>
>
>
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