Megalextoria
Retro computing and gaming, sci-fi books, tv and movies and other geeky stuff.

Home » Digital Archaeology » Computer Arcana » Apple » Apple II Emulation » AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key"
Show: Today's Messages :: Show Polls :: Message Navigator
E-mail to friend 
Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #340305] Sun, 26 March 2017 10:35 Go to next message
mverpelli is currently offline  mverpelli
Messages: 289
Registered: May 2013
Karma: 0
Senior Member
My 2¢ on the argument.

I don't have a GitHub account so I write here:

OneDrive for Win10 "steal" by default the PrintScreen key, then after a (re)installation of Windows, hit that key and simply say no to the application..

Marco
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #340347 is a reply to message #340305] Sun, 26 March 2017 16:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sicklittlemonkey is currently offline  sicklittlemonkey
Messages: 570
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
Senior Member
On Monday, 27 March 2017 03:35:53 UTC+13, Marco Verpelli wrote:
> OneDrive for Win10 "steal" by default the PrintScreen key, then after a (re)installation of Windows, hit that key and simply say no to the application.

Thanks, I've added your comment to the Github issue.
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/380

Seems like a common issue:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/onedrive/forum/odoptions -oddesktop/onedrive-has-hijacked-my-print-screen-key/43c40cd b-38ee-4719-afb6-39ae2da71cc9?auth=1

Cheers,
Nick.
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #340573 is a reply to message #340305] Tue, 28 March 2017 21:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: johnsonlam.hk

On Sunday, March 26, 2017 at 10:35:53 PM UTC+8, Marco Verpelli wrote:
> My 2¢ on the argument.
>
> I don't have a GitHub account so I write here:
>
> OneDrive for Win10 "steal" by default the PrintScreen key, then after a (re)installation of Windows, hit that key and simply say no to the application.
>
> Marco

Not only OneDrive, Dropbox also take over the printscreen key, so maybe need to change the code and let users pick another key such as 'Scroll Lock' or 'End'.
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #340728 is a reply to message #340573] Wed, 29 March 2017 19:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: denisbytezone

> Not only OneDrive, Dropbox also take over the printscreen key, so maybe need to change the code and let users pick another key such as 'Scroll Lock' or 'End'.

Dropbox was the problem for me. You can turn the feature off in the Dropbox preferences.
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #340729 is a reply to message #340728] Fri, 31 March 2017 03:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: johnsonlam.hk

On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 7:32:56 AM UTC+8, denisb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dropbox was the problem for me. You can turn the feature off in the Dropbox preferences.

One Drive have no option to turn off the printscreen capture, it's better to do it in AppleWin.
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #340730 is a reply to message #340729] Fri, 31 March 2017 03:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mverpelli is currently offline  mverpelli
Messages: 289
Registered: May 2013
Karma: 0
Senior Member
> One Drive have no option to turn off the printscreen capture, it's better to do it in AppleWin.

You can choose at the first use, or view then screenshot.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz0ReUsiwYcpRXljU3h6S01OMU k

Find an image translator if you can!

Marco
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #341172 is a reply to message #340730] Wed, 05 April 2017 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: johnsonlam.hk

Hi,

> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz0ReUsiwYcpRXljU3h6S01OMU k
> Find an image translator if you can!
> Marco

Thank for the screen capture and I did found the option.

My point is these famous program (DropBox and OneDrive) use this key, and many people did prefer this key to work with DropBox, maybe people really enjoy screen capture goes into Dropbox, then why not AppleWin going flexible and provide a chance to change.

Maybe CTRL-PRINTSCREEN or something like that will be fine.

Rgds,
Johnson.
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #341223 is a reply to message #341172] Thu, 06 April 2017 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael AppleWin Debu is currently offline  Michael AppleWin Debu
Messages: 1262
Registered: March 2013
Karma: 0
Senior Member
Since I originally implemented the PrintScreen key capture functionality in 2008 I can shed some additional light on this subject.

Back then DropBox and OneDrive weren't even around so there wasn't an issue of conflicts.

Second, due to Microsoft's inconsistent key handling in Windows we were forced to "register" an event to detect when the PrintScreen key is actually is pressed. Also due to Microsoft's brain-dead design only 1 program can registers this callback instead of properly chaining to ALL listeners. AppleWin detects if someone else has tried to take control of PrintScreen and will inform the user if it is unable to capture the screen -- since someone else already snagged it first. You can disable this via the command line option:

-no-printscreen-dlg

IMHO the proper solution would be to fallback to a "normal" function key -- along with having a menu option to take a screenshot. I'll have to see what function keys (along with Shift, Control, and Alt. options) are available. This would be a good "wishlist" feature to have down the road.

> Maybe CTRL-PRINTSCREEN or something like that will be fine.

Negative (for now.) Currently Ctrl-PrintScreen copies the text screen (it auto detect 40/80 columns) to the clipboard.

Again, ideally the user should be able to configure the two hotkeys they want to use. As noted, currently this is hard-coded. Having custom hotkeys is another "wishlist" feature to have but this will take some time to do properly.

I've amended Git Bug #380 with these feature requests:
https://github.com/AppleWin/AppleWin/issues/380
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #341303 is a reply to message #341223] Fri, 07 April 2017 17:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anonymous
Karma:
Originally posted by: Brian Patrie

On 2017-04-06 00:54, Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev wrote:
> IMHO the proper solution would be to fallback to a "normal" function
> key -- along with having a menu option to take a screenshot. I'll
> have to see what function keys (along with Shift, Control, and Alt.
> options) are available.

Shift-F6 (or Alt-F6, i suppose) seems apropos, as F6 is already
associated with the screen.
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #341304 is a reply to message #341303] Fri, 07 April 2017 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael AppleWin Debu is currently offline  Michael AppleWin Debu
Messages: 1262
Registered: March 2013
Karma: 0
Senior Member
On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-7, Brian Patrie wrote:
> On 2017-04-06 00:54, Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev wrote:
>> IMHO the proper solution would be to fallback to a "normal" function
>> key -- along with having a menu option to take a screenshot. I'll
>> have to see what function keys (along with Shift, Control, and Alt.
>> options) are available.
>
> Shift-F6 (or Alt-F6, i suppose) seems apropos, as F6 is already
> associated with the screen.

That's actually not a bad idea Brian! I _really_ like the (base) mapping too since it is screen related.

We can't use Alt due to the it being used as Open-Apple = Joystick Button #1. We also can't use Ctrl-F6, but these are available:

* Shift-F6, and
* Shift-Ctrl-F6 are available.

I'll add this functionality for the next version:

* Shift-F6 Save 560x384 screenshot
* Ctrl-Shift-F6 Copy text screen to clipboard

Does anyone actually use the 280x192 screenshot functionality? I'm assuming that if you are taking screenshots that you probably also already know how to use GIMP or Photoshop. ;-)
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #341341 is a reply to message #341304] Sat, 08 April 2017 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael J. Mahon is currently offline  Michael J. Mahon
Messages: 1767
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
Senior Member
Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev <michael.pohoreski@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 7, 2017 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-7, Brian Patrie wrote:
>> On 2017-04-06 00:54, Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev wrote:
>>> IMHO the proper solution would be to fallback to a "normal" function
>>> key -- along with having a menu option to take a screenshot. I'll
>>> have to see what function keys (along with Shift, Control, and Alt.
>>> options) are available.
>>
>> Shift-F6 (or Alt-F6, i suppose) seems apropos, as F6 is already
>> associated with the screen.
>
> That's actually not a bad idea Brian! I _really_ like the (base) mapping
> too since it is screen related.
>
> We can't use Alt due to the it being used as Open-Apple = Joystick Button
> #1. We also can't use Ctrl-F6, but these are available:
>
> * Shift-F6, and
> * Shift-Ctrl-F6 are available.
>
> I'll add this functionality for the next version:
>
> * Shift-F6 Save 560x384 screenshot
> * Ctrl-Shift-F6 Copy text screen to clipboard
>
> Does anyone actually use the 280x192 screenshot functionality? I'm
> assuming that if you are taking screenshots that you probably also
> already know how to use GIMP or Photoshop. ;-)
>
True, but I've used 280x192 to save a step. ;-)

--
-michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com
Re: AppleWin "Unable to capture PrintScreen key" [message #341357 is a reply to message #341341] Sat, 08 April 2017 17:04 Go to previous message
sicklittlemonkey is currently offline  sicklittlemonkey
Messages: 570
Registered: October 2012
Karma: 0
Senior Member
On Sunday, 9 April 2017 03:45:51 UTC+12, Michael J. Mahon wrote:
> Michael AppleWin Debugger Dev wrote:
>> I'll add this functionality for the next version:
>>
>> * Shift-F6 Save 560x384 screenshot
>> * Ctrl-Shift-F6 Copy text screen to clipboard
>>
>> Does anyone actually use the 280x192 screenshot functionality? I'm
>> assuming that if you are taking screenshots that you probably also
>> already know how to use GIMP or Photoshop. ;-)
>>
> True, but I've used 280x192 to save a step. ;-)
>
> --
> -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com

If there's config for the keys, we could have config in the same place for the type saved.

Though I've used Image Magick in the past with switches to automate reducing resolution like that. ; - )

Cheers,
Nick.
  Switch to threaded view of this topic Create a new topic Submit Reply
Previous Topic: Emulator aspect ratios?
Next Topic: ctrl-@[\]^_ issue in AppleWin
Goto Forum:
  

-=] Back to Top [=-
[ Syndicate this forum (XML) ] [ RSS ] [ PDF ]

Current Time: Tue Mar 19 00:44:03 EDT 2024

Total time taken to generate the page: 0.02002 seconds