| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341480 is a reply to message #341478] |
Mon, 10 April 2017 18:00   |
Joe Pfeiffer
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pechter@pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) writes:
> In article <el21avF4qmaU4@mid.individual.net>,
> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:41:43 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>>>> It was felt that "ICL specifications
>>>> could not be written to cater for ethnic minorities".
>>>
>>> I've mentioned before that Burroughs Medium Systems had two instructions
>>> (Write Hardware Register - WHR) and (Search List - SLT).
>>>
>>> The spoken instruction names were not politically correct.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> --
>> Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...
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>> Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
>> http://www.mirrorservice.org
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> According to my old DEC trainer in Bedford teaching the PDP11 hardware
> maintenance:
>
> The PDP11/34 had a Sign Extend instruction which was labeled SXT
> for Sign Extend. This came after the powers-that-be refused to allow
> the PDP11 to have a SEX instruction.
>
> Interestingly, the chip which is involved in this condition code is
> labeled the SEX MUX on the print set.
Amusingly, the Harris /7 I worked at one time had an instruction to copy
one register's contents into another called "Set E to X". Yes, official
mnemonic was SEX.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341481 is a reply to message #341460] |
Mon, 10 April 2017 18:06 |
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Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:38:31 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
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>>> No idea what happened to the info, but back when I was on a listserv,
>>> for i-amiga, someone sent around a survey for what each of us caled it.
>>> I remember a map showing the predominate words soda, soda pop,
>>
>> http://discovermagazine.com/galleries/2013/june/regional-us- language-
> dialect
>
> Just to get this vaguely back on topic for the group, this is somewhat
> interesting:
>
> I was reminded of this one (which is true). The context is the committee
> deciding on the low level instruction set of the ICL "New Range"
> computers, later to become the 2900 series (see Wikipedia if you want to
> know more).
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> At a meeting of the "New Range Upper Sub-Range Primitive Interface
> Interpretive Committee", chaired by John Bowthorpe, there was a lengthy
> debate one day about the proposed implementation of the SWEQ (Scan While
> Equal) and SWNE (Scan While Not Equal) instructions. Near the end of the
> meeting, one of the engineers got up and said that he was happy with the
> implementation but unhappy with the names of the instructions.
>
> He explained that he came from Oldham, and that in parts of Lancashire
> "while" meant "until", so that any Lancastrian engineers and programmers
> would interpret the instructions in exactly the opposite way to that
> intended. An action was duly placed for the Architects to rule on this ...
I have heard it said that this difference led to collisions at level
crossings so that while was eventually replaced by when in the warning
signs.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341483 is a reply to message #341481] |
Mon, 10 April 2017 19:02 |
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Originally posted by: Bob Eager
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:06:34 +0000, Bill Findlay wrote:
> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:38:31 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>
>>>> No idea what happened to the info, but back when I was on a listserv,
>>>> for i-amiga, someone sent around a survey for what each of us caled
>>>> it.
>>>> I remember a map showing the predominate words soda, soda pop,
>>>
>>> http://discovermagazine.com/galleries/2013/june/regional-us- language-
>> dialect
>>
>> Just to get this vaguely back on topic for the group, this is somewhat
>> interesting:
>>
>> I was reminded of this one (which is true). The context is the
>> committee deciding on the low level instruction set of the ICL "New
>> Range" computers, later to become the 2900 series (see Wikipedia if you
>> want to know more).
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> At a meeting of the "New Range Upper Sub-Range Primitive Interface
>> Interpretive Committee", chaired by John Bowthorpe, there was a lengthy
>> debate one day about the proposed implementation of the SWEQ (Scan
>> While Equal) and SWNE (Scan While Not Equal) instructions. Near the end
>> of the meeting, one of the engineers got up and said that he was happy
>> with the implementation but unhappy with the names of the instructions.
>>
>> He explained that he came from Oldham, and that in parts of Lancashire
>> "while" meant "until", so that any Lancastrian engineers and
>> programmers would interpret the instructions in exactly the opposite
>> way to that intended. An action was duly placed for the Architects to
>> rule on this ...
>
> I have heard it said that this difference led to collisions at level
> crossings so that while was eventually replaced by when in the warning
> signs.
I'm not surprised. I hear from a relative that it is also true in parts
of Yorkshire (probably a bit they annexed from Lancashire!)
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341490 is a reply to message #341412] |
Mon, 10 April 2017 23:46 |
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Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
> "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
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>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-07, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> > On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 2:29:15 PM UTC-6, Ahem A Rivet's
>>>> > Shot wrote:
>>>> >> On 6 Apr 2017 09:05:24 GMT
>>>> >> mausg@mail.com wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>> I remember it caused problems when I bought a Spectrum... the
>>>> >>> spare TV i used did not `do' the Spectrum output.
>>>> >
>>>> >> Surely not an old 405 line VHF set ?
>>>> >
>>>> > That assumes he was writing from the United Kingdom... although a
>>>> > similar situation could have arisen in some other countries.
>>>> >
>>>> > In the United States, the spare TV *could*, I suppose, have been one
>>>> > of the ones fitted out for the CBS color television system, which,
>>>> > unlike NTSC, was not compatible with black-and-white. That would, of
>>>> > course, have been extremely unlikely.
>>>> >
>>>> > In France, however, just as in Britain black-and-white TV was 405
>>>> > lines while color was 625 lines, black-and-white TV there was 819
>>>> > lines, while color, again, standardized on 625 lines (even though it
>>>> > was SECAM instead of PAL).
>>>> >
>>>> > John Savard
>>>>
>>>> No, The Republic of Ireland. Lost my debit card over the weekend,
>>>> rang up to stop it being used, and almost had to get a Scots-2-English
>>>> translator...
>>>>
>>>> Next person I had to ring up. I needed a Lallans-2-English translator
>>>> (Just Joking)... If anyone else ask me "Oh, Thats Southern
>>>> Ireland"....
>>>>
>>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>
>>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>
>>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>
> ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
> But "y'all" is nonsense.
Less so than "all y'all".
>
>>> Resistance is futile.
>>>
>> Is that you, Borg?
>
> Nope, just someone from the Bronx that learned to speak from
> my mid-western parents. Not even a slight Bronx accent.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341491 is a reply to message #341424] |
Mon, 10 April 2017 23:46 |
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Morten Reistad <first@last.name> wrote:
> In article <ekvo6lF7dgjU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Osmium <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 4/9/2017 3:04 PM, Mike Spencer wrote:
>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> There is no way that New Englanders will use the word pop for
>>>> carbonated sugary liquids.
>>> Never say never. Rural New Hampshire, 1948: CocaCola, Pepsi, Orange
>>> Crush and Moxie (!) were "tonic".
>>>
>>> 1954 urban Massachusetts: Our then-90 year old landlady called such
>>> beverages "phosphates". AIUI, at that time phosphoric acid had been
>>> absent from such drinks for decades, only to reappear in the 80s.
>>>
>>> Aren't there regions where tonic, pop, soda and soda-pop are all
>>> eschewed in favor of "sof'drink"?
>>>
>>> While perhaps not applicable to carbonated drinks, don't forget that
>>> corporate marketing renames products in order to avoid false
>>> advertizing charges. Milk shake --> no milk in it? --> shake. Iced
>>> cream --> no cream in it? --> tastyfreeze and similar.
>>>
>> There don't seem to be many truth constraints such as that in the USA.
>> The dairy section, in particular is full of flat out lies. No-fat sour
>> cream comes to mind, anyone with a clip board could make quite a list.
>>
>> The Dollar Store sells some stuff that says cheese on it that starts
>> with soybean oil and goes downhill from there. (Note that they also sell
>> cheese.)
>
> In the EU/EES they cannot name something Cheese that is not, in fact,
> cheese.
>
> This has led to the term "analog cheese", which is not actual cheese.
>
> So, I demand real, digital cheese.
Almost anything would be better than "analog cheese." "Mock cheese," "faux
cheese, "near cheese" come to mind.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341492 is a reply to message #341478] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:00 |
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On 2017-04-10, William Pechter <pechter@pechter.dyndns.org> wrote:
> According to my old DEC trainer in Bedford teaching the PDP11 hardware
> maintenance:
>
> The PDP11/34 had a Sign Extend instruction which was labeled SXT
> for Sign Extend. This came after the powers-that-be refused to allow
> the PDP11 to have a SEX instruction.
>
> Interestingly, the chip which is involved in this condition code is
> labeled the SEX MUX on the print set.
Sounds promiscuous to me.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341493 is a reply to message #341457] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:00 |
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On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>
>>>> "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> > IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>>
>>>> ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>
>>> Plural of "you".
>>
>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>> therefore remains nonsense.
>
> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
"Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341494 is a reply to message #341373] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:00 |
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On 2017-04-09, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
> On 2017-04-08, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
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>> On 2017-04-08, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>
>>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>
>>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>
>>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>> Resistance is futile.
>>
>> It'll be back to grunts around the fire soon enough...
>
> Relative is a schoolteacher, says that some of the pupils try to turn
> pages in real books, by swiping along the bottom
I've seen many people use a very similar motion long before tablets and
smartphones were invented. It dog-ears the pages very quickly.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341495 is a reply to message #341475] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:00 |
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On 2017-04-10, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
> scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:
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>> I've mentioned before that Burroughs Medium Systems had two
>> instructions (Write Hardware Register - WHR) and (Search List - SLT).
>>
>> The spoken instruction names were not politically correct.
>
> MIT Lincoln Labs got SLT RPQ for the 360/67 ... and CP/67 made use of it
> (kernel storage management, find best fit), if it wasn't available,
> kernel code simulated it.
Somewhere in my boxes I have two writeups on SLT. One is fairly
straight, while the other is somewhat tongue-in-cheek. The latter
is titled "The Care and Feeding of SLT (or: And You Thought BXLE
Was Bad?)".
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341496 is a reply to message #341454] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:00 |
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On 2017-04-10, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> Andrew Swallow wrote:
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>> On 09/04/2017 23:04, Morten Reistad wrote:
>>
>>> In the EU/EES they cannot name something Cheese that is not, in fact,
>>> cheese.
>>>
>>> This has led to the term "analog cheese", which is not actual cheese.
I've heard the term "processed cheese food". <shudder>
>>> So, I demand real, digital cheese.
>>
>> I suspect that digital cheese can be electrifying. ;)
>
> But he should be able to use a curd reader to get the bytes.
<groan>
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341497 is a reply to message #341491] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:03 |
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On Monday, April 10, 2017 at 9:46:33 PM UTC-6, Peter Flass wrote:
> Almost anything would be better than "analog cheese." "Mock cheese," "faux
> cheese, "near cheese" come to mind.
Yes, but an even simpler correction would be to replace "analog cheese", which
indeed sounds like real cheese that isn't digitized, with what presumably was
really meant: cheese analog. Something that's sort of like cheese.
John Savard
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341498 is a reply to message #341493] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:56 |
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>> > "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>> >
>>>> > ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> > But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Plural of "you".
>>>
>>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>>> therefore remains nonsense.
>>
>> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
>> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
>
> "Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
Presumably that's in the southeast. Where I've been (and I've got
relatives in Dallas), "y'all" is singular or plural depending on
context. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "all y'all".
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341499 is a reply to message #341494] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 00:57 |
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2017-04-09, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-08, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-04-08, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> > Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> > massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> > former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>>
>>>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>>
>>>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> Resistance is futile.
>>>
>>> It'll be back to grunts around the fire soon enough...
>>
>> Relative is a schoolteacher, says that some of the pupils try to turn
>> pages in real books, by swiping along the bottom
>
> I've seen many people use a very similar motion long before tablets and
> smartphones were invented. It dog-ears the pages very quickly.
That's why smartphones adopted that gesture for page-turn.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341504 is a reply to message #341490] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 06:25 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
In article <26770205.513574243.360393.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-
september.org>, peter_flass@yahoo.com says...
>
> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2017-04-07, Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>>> >> On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 2:29:15 PM UTC-6, Ahem A Rivet's
>>>> >> Shot wrote:
>>>> >>> On 6 Apr 2017 09:05:24 GMT
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>> I remember it caused problems when I bought a Spectrum... the
>>>> >>>> spare TV i used did not `do' the Spectrum output.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Surely not an old 405 line VHF set ?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> That assumes he was writing from the United Kingdom... although a
>>>> >> similar situation could have arisen in some other countries.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In the United States, the spare TV *could*, I suppose, have been one
>>>> >> of the ones fitted out for the CBS color television system, which,
>>>> >> unlike NTSC, was not compatible with black-and-white. That would, of
>>>> >> course, have been extremely unlikely.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In France, however, just as in Britain black-and-white TV was 405
>>>> >> lines while color was 625 lines, black-and-white TV there was 819
>>>> >> lines, while color, again, standardized on 625 lines (even though it
>>>> >> was SECAM instead of PAL).
>>>> >>
>>>> >> John Savard
>>>> >
>>>> > No, The Republic of Ireland. Lost my debit card over the weekend,
>>>> > rang up to stop it being used, and almost had to get a Scots-2-English
>>>> > translator...
>>>> >
>>>> > Next person I had to ring up. I needed a Lallans-2-English translator
>>>> > (Just Joking)... If anyone else ask me "Oh, Thats Southern
>>>> > Ireland"....
>>>> >
>>>> > Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> > massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> > former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>>
>>>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>>
>>>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>
>> ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>> But "y'all" is nonsense.
>
> Less so than "all y'all".
How do you feel about "summa y'all"?
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341505 is a reply to message #341493] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 06:26 |
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Originally posted by: J. Clarke
In article <ochkdn12rgf@news3.newsguy.com>, cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid says...
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> On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>> > "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>> >
>>>> > ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> > But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Plural of "you".
>>>
>>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>>> therefore remains nonsense.
>>
>> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
>> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
>
> "Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
No, it isn't. It's semantically equivalent to "all youse".
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341507 is a reply to message #341496] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 08:24 |
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Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2017-04-10, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/04/2017 23:04, Morten Reistad wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the EU/EES they cannot name something Cheese that is not, in fact,
>>>> cheese.
>>>>
>>>> This has led to the term "analog cheese", which is not actual cheese.
>
> I've heard the term "processed cheese food". <shudder>
>
>>>> So, I demand real, digital cheese.
>>>
>>> I suspect that digital cheese can be electrifying. ;)
>>
>> But he should be able to use a curd reader to get the bytes.
>
> <groan>
>
<grin> I just could not resist that one.
/BAH
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Tue, 11 April 2017 08:24 |
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Bob Eager wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 21:43:12 +0000, William Pechter wrote:
>
>> In article <el21avF4qmaU4@mid.individual.net>,
>> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:41:43 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bob Eager <news0006@eager.cx> writes:
>>>> >----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>>> >It was felt that "ICL specifications could not be written to cater for
>>>> >ethnic minorities".
>>>>
>>>> I've mentioned before that Burroughs Medium Systems had two
>>>> instructions (Write Hardware Register - WHR) and (Search List - SLT).
>>>>
>>>> The spoken instruction names were not politically correct.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> --
>>> Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...
>>>
>>> Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
>>> http://www.mirrorservice.org
>>
>> According to my old DEC trainer in Bedford teaching the PDP11 hardware
>> maintenance:
>>
>> The PDP11/34 had a Sign Extend instruction which was labeled SXT for
>> Sign Extend. This came after the powers-that-be refused to allow the
>> PDP11 to have a SEX instruction.
>
> With PTB like that, you wonder how they allowed POLY on the VAX (since
> DEC were not based in UT).
DEC became "stright-laced" after they hired a professional editor for
documentation. One of the first things to go was the chemical
symbol for DDT in the DDT manual. Humor was not allowed in documentation
we shipped to customers. We (developers) managed to ship some anyway.
The stuffed shirts missed the warning message when the command
MAKE LOVE was typed to the monitor.
/BAH
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Tue, 11 April 2017 08:53 |
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Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
> On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>> > "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>> >
>>>> > ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> > But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Plural of "you".
>>>
>>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>>> therefore remains nonsense.
>>
>> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
>> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
>
> "Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
Where does that leave "you alls"?
Seriously, I'm surprised as I google around that people claim
that you all is used for the plural case.
Wikipedia gets closer calling it "usually plural".
My experience is that y'all is used indiscriminately
for one person or a crowd.
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Tue, 11 April 2017 09:03 |
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On 2017-04-11 12:24:44 +0000, jmfbahciv said:
> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2017-04-10, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/04/2017 23:04, Morten Reistad wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > In the EU/EES they cannot name something Cheese that is not, in fact,
>>>> > cheese.
>>>> >
>>>> > This has led to the term "analog cheese", which is not actual cheese.
>>
>> I've heard the term "processed cheese food". <shudder>
>>
>>>> > So, I demand real, digital cheese.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that digital cheese can be electrifying. ;)
>>>
>>> But he should be able to use a curd reader to get the bytes.
>>
>> <groan>
>>
> <grin> I just could not resist that one.
>
> /BAH
But you did go whey overboard.
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Michael LeVine
mlevinespmfltr@redshift.com
Politics is the art of looking for trouble,
finding it everywhere,
diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedies.
Groucho Marx
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341514 is a reply to message #341511] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 10:13 |
Joe Pfeiffer
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Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
>
> Where does that leave "you alls"?
>
> Seriously, I'm surprised as I google around that people claim
> that you all is used for the plural case.
>
> Wikipedia gets closer calling it "usually plural".
> My experience is that y'all is used indiscriminately
> for one person or a crowd.
My experience matches yours.
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Tue, 11 April 2017 11:12 |
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In article <1bh91vav72.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net>,
Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> writes:
>>
>> Where does that leave "you alls"?
>>
>> Seriously, I'm surprised as I google around that people claim
>> that you all is used for the plural case.
>>
>> Wikipedia gets closer calling it "usually plural".
>> My experience is that y'all is used indiscriminately
>> for one person or a crowd.
>
> My experience matches yours.
That's certainly not true of my experience, and I am a Sandlapper.
Y'all is definitely second person plural.
At times it may be intensified as "all y'all" to indicate the group
being spokent to as well as others not present (as in, say, telling
two of your cousins to whom you are speaking to bring the whole family
over for dinner: "Why don't all y'all come over Sunday?")
I've never seen singular usage except from persons affecting what they
thing is a Southernism.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341518 is a reply to message #341493] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 11:34 |
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Originally posted by: JimP.
On 11 Apr 2017 04:00:55 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
wrote:
> On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>>
>>>> > "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>> >
>>>> > ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> > But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>>
>>>> Plural of "you".
>>>
>>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>>> therefore remains nonsense.
>>
>> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
>> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
>
> "Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
Texas is where I learned Ya'll is singular or plural depending on
context. I'm sure other places see it differently.
--
Jim
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341519 is a reply to message #341498] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 11:36 |
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Originally posted by: JimP.
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:56:59 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
<pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>> >
>>>> >> "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >>> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> >> But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>> >
>>>> > Plural of "you".
>>>>
>>>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>>>> therefore remains nonsense.
>>>
>>> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
>>> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
>>
>> "Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
>
> Presumably that's in the southeast. Where I've been (and I've got
> relatives in Dallas), "y'all" is singular or plural depending on
> context. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "all y'all".
Saw a sand up comic on Comicsunleased tv channel whose wife is from
east Texas and she says that all ya'll thing.
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Jim
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341520 is a reply to message #341519] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 12:34 |
Quadibloc
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On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 9:37:37 AM UTC-6, JimP. wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:56:59 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
> <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>> Presumably that's in the southeast. Where I've been (and I've got
>> relatives in Dallas), "y'all" is singular or plural depending on
>> context. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "all y'all".
> Saw a sand up comic on Comicsunleased tv channel whose wife is from
> east Texas and she says that all ya'll thing.
Well, "Y'all" is plural, but "Ya'll" can be singular or plural...
Y'all come back now
versus
Ya'll come back now
.... the first one invites the assembly addressed, indicating that not just the immediate hearer, but also the entire group, is to come back;
.... the second one states that the second person hearer is expected to return, being a contraction for "you will".
So if the apostrophe weren't a typo, it would explain everything.
John Savard
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341523 is a reply to message #341499] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 13:51 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-04-11, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 2017-04-09, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-04-08, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-08, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >
>>>> > Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >
>>>> > But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> > Resistance is futile.
>>>>
>>>> It'll be back to grunts around the fire soon enough...
>>>
>>> Relative is a schoolteacher, says that some of the pupils try to turn
>>> pages in real books, by swiping along the bottom
>>
>> I've seen many people use a very similar motion long before tablets and
>> smartphones were invented. It dog-ears the pages very quickly.
>
> That's why smartphones adopted that gesture for page-turn.
Now I'll start looking for dog-eared web pages.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341524 is a reply to message #341518] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 13:51 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-04-11, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11 Apr 2017 04:00:55 GMT, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-10, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 22:22:57 -0400, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > In article <ocdrph$b96$1@dont-email.me>, despen@verizon.net says...
>>>> >
>>>> >> "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> On Sat, 08 Apr 2017 14:48:54 +0100, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >>> IRT ^^^^^^^^^^ A "Y'all", and pronounced it with a Suthurn Draaawl.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> ESP at work, I strongly considered writing y'all.
>>>> >> But "y'all" is nonsense.
>>>> >
>>>> > Plural of "you".
>>>>
>>>> But y'all is used for plural and singular and
>>>> therefore remains nonsense.
>>>
>>> Context determines if its plural or singular, but I have heard
>>> sentences where its impossible to determine if its singular or plural.
>>
>> "Y'all" is singular. The plural is "all y'all".
>
> Texas is where I learned Ya'll is singular or plural depending on
> context. I'm sure other places see it differently.
I thought it was a Texan that told me about "y'all" vs. "all y'all",
although that was a long way back in some dusty brain cells.
I definitely remember once having a customer in Dallas tell me,
"I got this funny error message and I was wondering if it was from
y'all's system." I'd never heard it in the possessive before...
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341528 is a reply to message #341480] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 18:29 |
Gene Wirchenko
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:00:20 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
<pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
[snip]
> Amusingly, the Harris /7 I worked at one time had an instruction to copy
> one register's contents into another called "Set E to X". Yes, official
> mnemonic was SEX.
RCA's CDP1802 had instructions for setting the P (program
counter) register, X (index) register, and the Q output line. The
respective menmonics were SEP, SEX, and SEQ.
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341530 is a reply to message #341520] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 18:44 |
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Originally posted by: JimP.
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 9:37:37 AM UTC-6, JimP. wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:56:59 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
>> <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>
>>> Presumably that's in the southeast. Where I've been (and I've got
>>> relatives in Dallas), "y'all" is singular or plural depending on
>>> context. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "all y'all".
>
>> Saw a sand up comic on Comicsunleased tv channel whose wife is from
>> east Texas and she says that all ya'll thing.
>
> Well, "Y'all" is plural, but "Ya'll" can be singular or plural...
>
> Y'all come back now
>
> versus
>
> Ya'll come back now
>
> ... the first one invites the assembly addressed, indicating that not just the immediate hearer, but also the entire group, is to come back;
>
> ... the second one states that the second person hearer is expected to return, being a contraction for "you will".
>
> So if the apostrophe weren't a typo, it would explain everything.
>
> John Savard
In American English class I learned that you is both singular and
plural. So you all is both as well.
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Jim
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341537 is a reply to message #341530] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 20:56 |
Richard Thiebaud
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On 04/11/2017 06:44 PM, JimP. wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 9:37:37 AM UTC-6, JimP. wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:56:59 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
>>> <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>>> Presumably that's in the southeast. Where I've been (and I've got
>>>> relatives in Dallas), "y'all" is singular or plural depending on
>>>> context. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "all y'all".
>>
>>> Saw a sand up comic on Comicsunleased tv channel whose wife is from
>>> east Texas and she says that all ya'll thing.
>>
>> Well, "Y'all" is plural, but "Ya'll" can be singular or plural...
>>
>> Y'all come back now
>>
>> versus
>>
>> Ya'll come back now
>>
>> ... the first one invites the assembly addressed, indicating that not just the immediate hearer, but also the entire group, is to come back;
>>
>> ... the second one states that the second person hearer is expected to return, being a contraction for "you will".
>>
>> So if the apostrophe weren't a typo, it would explain everything.
>>
>> John Savard
>
> In American English class I learned that you is both singular and
> plural. So you all is both as well.
>
These things go by usage, not be logic.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341538 is a reply to message #341537] |
Tue, 11 April 2017 21:31 |
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Originally posted by: JimP.
On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 20:56:19 -0400, Richard Thiebaud
<thiebauddick2@aol.com> wrote:
> On 04/11/2017 06:44 PM, JimP. wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 09:34:38 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>> <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 at 9:37:37 AM UTC-6, JimP. wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 22:56:59 -0600, Joe Pfeiffer
>>>> <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Presumably that's in the southeast. Where I've been (and I've got
>>>> > relatives in Dallas), "y'all" is singular or plural depending on
>>>> > context. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "all y'all".
>>>
>>>> Saw a sand up comic on Comicsunleased tv channel whose wife is from
>>>> east Texas and she says that all ya'll thing.
>>>
>>> Well, "Y'all" is plural, but "Ya'll" can be singular or plural...
>>>
>>> Y'all come back now
>>>
>>> versus
>>>
>>> Ya'll come back now
>>>
>>> ... the first one invites the assembly addressed, indicating that not just the immediate hearer, but also the entire group, is to come back;
>>>
>>> ... the second one states that the second person hearer is expected to return, being a contraction for "you will".
>>>
>>> So if the apostrophe weren't a typo, it would explain everything.
>>>
>>> John Savard
>>
>> In American English class I learned that you is both singular and
>> plural. So you all is both as well.
>>
> These things go by usage, not be logic.
Depends on which English teacher or prefoessor taught me. The one at
university told us ya'll was incorrect English. But she wasn't from
Texas.
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Jim
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341557 is a reply to message #341523] |
Wed, 12 April 2017 08:57 |
jmfbahciv
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Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2017-04-11, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>
>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 2017-04-09, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-08, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2017-04-08, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >> Resistance is futile.
>>>> >
>>>> > It'll be back to grunts around the fire soon enough...
>>>>
>>>> Relative is a schoolteacher, says that some of the pupils try to turn
>>>> pages in real books, by swiping along the bottom
>>>
>>> I've seen many people use a very similar motion long before tablets and
>>> smartphones were invented. It dog-ears the pages very quickly.
>>
>> That's why smartphones adopted that gesture for page-turn.
>
> Now I'll start looking for dog-eared web pages.
>
I wish...the problem with web pages is that the pages essentially
have to be "flipped out"; they never, ever are designed to fit the
screen.
/BAH
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341558 is a reply to message #341512] |
Wed, 12 April 2017 08:57 |
jmfbahciv
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Michael LeVine wrote:
> On 2017-04-11 12:24:44 +0000, jmfbahciv said:
>
>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-10, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 09/04/2017 23:04, Morten Reistad wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> In the EU/EES they cannot name something Cheese that is not, in fact,
>>>> >> cheese.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> This has led to the term "analog cheese", which is not actual cheese.
>>>
>>> I've heard the term "processed cheese food". <shudder>
>>>
>>>> >> So, I demand real, digital cheese.
>>>> >
>>>> > I suspect that digital cheese can be electrifying. ;)
>>>>
>>>> But he should be able to use a curd reader to get the bytes.
>>>
>>> <groan>
>>>
>> <grin> I just could not resist that one.
>>
>> /BAH
>
> But you did go whey overboard.
Sirrah! My computers do not have plumbing.
/BAH
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341559 is a reply to message #341558] |
Wed, 12 April 2017 09:49 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth's Downstairs Computer
On 12/04/2017 13:57, jmfbahciv wrote:
> Michael LeVine wrote:
>> On 2017-04-11 12:24:44 +0000, jmfbahciv said:
>>
>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>>> On 2017-04-10, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Andrew Swallow wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 09/04/2017 23:04, Morten Reistad wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> In the EU/EES they cannot name something Cheese that is not, in fact,
>>>> >>> cheese.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> This has led to the term "analog cheese", which is not actual cheese.
>>>>
>>>> I've heard the term "processed cheese food". <shudder>
>>>>
>>>> >>> So, I demand real, digital cheese.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I suspect that digital cheese can be electrifying. ;)
>>>> >
>>>> > But he should be able to use a curd reader to get the bytes.
>>>>
>>>> <groan>
>>>>
>>> <grin> I just could not resist that one.
>>>
>>> /BAH
>>
>> But you did go whey overboard.
>
> Sirrah! My computers do not have plumbing.
>
> /BAH
>
To get digital cheese, just shove your finger up you-know-where
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341567 is a reply to message #341557] |
Wed, 12 April 2017 14:29 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-04-12, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-11, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-09, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2017-04-08, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2017-04-08, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >>> Resistance is futile.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It'll be back to grunts around the fire soon enough...
>>>> >
>>>> > Relative is a schoolteacher, says that some of the pupils try to turn
>>>> > pages in real books, by swiping along the bottom
>>>>
>>>> I've seen many people use a very similar motion long before tablets and
>>>> smartphones were invented. It dog-ears the pages very quickly.
>>>
>>> That's why smartphones adopted that gesture for page-turn.
>>
>> Now I'll start looking for dog-eared web pages.
>
> I wish...the problem with web pages is that the pages essentially
> have to be "flipped out"; they never, ever are designed to fit the
> screen.
Sure they are - as long as you have the correct browser, plus hardware
that can handle the correct resolution. Between this and gratuitous
specialized apps, the threat of universality has once again been averted.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341573 is a reply to message #341558] |
Wed, 12 April 2017 22:20 |
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Originally posted by: Colin Campbell
On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:57:48 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
> Michael LeVine wrote:
BAH
>>
>> But you did go whey overboard.
>
> Sirrah! My computers do not have plumbing.
>
> /BAH
Presumably not Aquarius, then? Although, if you do go overboard, one
hopes the DEC isn't too high above the water.
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341576 is a reply to message #341573] |
Wed, 12 April 2017 23:21 |
pechter
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In article <ocmn9n$139$1@dont-email.me>,
Colin Campbell <cpkc@shaw.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 12:57:48 +0000, jmfbahciv wrote:
>
>> Michael LeVine wrote:
> BAH
>>>
>>> But you did go whey overboard.
>>
>> Sirrah! My computers do not have plumbing.
>>
>> /BAH
>
> Presumably not Aquarius, then? Although, if you do go overboard, one
> hopes the DEC isn't too high above the water.
I thought DEC cancelled the Aquarius Vax around '86-87. Story I heard
was Ken Olsen didn't want to have to have plumbers in Field Service...
8-)
Bill
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Digital had it then. Don't you wish you could buy it now!
pechter-at-gmail.com http://xkcd.com/705/
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| Re: ARM Cortex A53 64 bit [message #341580 is a reply to message #341557] |
Thu, 13 April 2017 05:32 |
mausg
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On 2017-04-12, jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
> Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2017-04-11, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-04-09, mausg@mail.com <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > On 2017-04-08, Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> On 2017-04-08, Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> mausg@mail.com writes:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Been noticing recently, that talking to ordinary USAians, there is a
>>>> >>>> massive and growing difference between Her Majestys English, and the
>>>> >>>> former colonists. I might start a ruckus about that.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Resist all you want. Go ahead, be dragged kicking and screaming.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> But you'll all be using Midwest American English sooner or later.
>>>> >>> Resistance is futile.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It'll be back to grunts around the fire soon enough...
>>>> >
>>>> > Relative is a schoolteacher, says that some of the pupils try to turn
>>>> > pages in real books, by swiping along the bottom
>>>>
>>>> I've seen many people use a very similar motion long before tablets and
>>>> smartphones were invented. It dog-ears the pages very quickly.
>>>
>>> That's why smartphones adopted that gesture for page-turn.
>>
>> Now I'll start looking for dog-eared web pages.
>>
>
> I wish...the problem with web pages is that the pages essentially
> have to be "flipped out"; they never, ever are designed to fit the
> screen.
>
> /BAH
I thought that was one of the main reasons for HTML, that they fit any(almost)
screens?
--
greymaus.ireland.ie
Just_Another_Grumpy_Old_Man
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