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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339358 is a reply to message #339345] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 06:41   |
Harry Vaderchi
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2017 04:07:37 -0000, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>
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> Guys? This is a nice cozy little newgroup consisting of a bunch of old
> farts reminiscing about computing decades ago. I don't think *any* of
> us have any real interest in whatever crapfest you're talking about.
They're beyond help. the original troll Xposted from ukra from the start.
(So I've dropped it).
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Bah, and indeed, Humbug
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339359 is a reply to message #339312] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 08:46 |
gareth
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On 14/03/2017 19:19, gareth wrote:
> On 14/03/2017 12:31, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> gareth <headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com> writes:
>> All 5800 pages are here:
>> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc. ddi0487a.e/index.html
>> Why do you need hex and binary details?
> Thanks, had already been there and got stymied by the password
> requirement, but on the back burner remembered that I had registered
> with them a couple of years ago, so searched the desk diaries and
> now have the file; better to have a pukka than a potentially illegal copy.
> Reason? Just personal interest and curiosity
Now that I've 5800+ of absorbing reading to work through, I'll
take my leave on Usenet "faraday" or two.
Cue : those identified as anklebiters to whinge on about this.
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339361 is a reply to message #339301] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 09:29 |
jmfbahciv
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Stephen Thomas Cole wrote:
> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>> Brian Reay wrote:
>>> On 14/03/17 10:01, J. Clarke wrote:
>>>> In article <oa8d9t$1d0a$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>>> headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com
>>>> says...
>>>> >
>>>> > On 14/03/2017 00:12, mm0fmf wrote:
>>>> >> On 13/03/2017 21:17, gareth wrote:
>>>> >>> Having a Pi1 from 3 years ago and a Pi2 from 2 years ago, and
>>>> >>> both having remained unopened, I decided to go straight to
>>>> >>> the 64 bit RPi3.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Has anybody here experience of assembly language programming
>>>> >>> in the ARMv8 64 bit instruction set?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >> Yes.
>>>> >
>>>> > In which case, please could you URL me the documents that
>>>> > describe the instruction codes, because in googling I seem
>>>> > to be going round in circles with outline descriptions but
>>>> > not the binary or hex details that I seek?
>>>>
>>>> Your google-fu is weak, grasshopper.
>>>>
>>>> Try "arm hex instruction set reference".
>>>>
>>>>
>>> `
>>>
>>>
>>> He is history of vapourware projects could fill a library, best to just
>>> ignore him.
>>
>> Why? His question produced a dozen interesting posts.
>>
>> /BAH
>>
>
> Please accept humble apologies from us sane ukra users for the pollution of
> your group. Some deranged maniac with a Yahoo account is impersonating a
> longtime ukra poster and is causing havoc, asking endless inane questions
> and kicking up a stink when slapped down. I think he has severe mental
> problems.
Apology accepted if you stop the ankle bytes in this (a.f.c.) newsgroup :-)
/BAH
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339363 is a reply to message #339297] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 09:29 |
jmfbahciv
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gareth wrote:
> On 14/03/2017 13:00, jmfbahciv wrote:
>> Brian Reay wrote:
>>>
>>> He is history of vapourware projects could fill a library, best to just
>>> ignore him.
>>
>> Why? His question produced a dozen interesting posts.
>
> Usenet is a good place to discuss ideas. Unfortunately reay
> keeps tabs on all things that I may have wished to discuss
> or just sound out and maliciously claims that all such mebbes
> are projects that have fallen by the wayside.
>
> If a mebbe does not receive suport than I'm unlikely to
> follow it, but that's no reason to refrain from
> maintaining technical discussion especially if it
> helps to outnumber the silly posts from reay and his ilk.
>
> YMMV but reay's snidributions (a new portmanteau word for today :-) )
> in this thread say much about him.
However, you reverted back to snivel when challenged. Learn how to
ignore it. You did byte my hand in another post so be very careful.
/BAH
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339372 is a reply to message #339366] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 12:46 |
Charlie Gibbs
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On 2017-03-15, Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
> In article <oaat0n$h46$1@dont-email.me>,
> Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:1bzigndvxy.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net...
>>
>>> Guys? This is a nice cozy little newgroup consisting of a bunch of old
>>> farts reminiscing about computing decades ago. I don't think *any* of
>>> us have any real interest in whatever crapfest you're talking about.
>>
>> some of us hate computers
>
> They never do what we want, only what we tell them.
I keep trying to explain to users that computers don't have a
DWIM instruction (Do What I Mean).
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\ / I'm really at ac.dekanfrus if you read it the right way.
X Top-posted messages will probably be ignored. See RFC1855.
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339383 is a reply to message #339376] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 14:10 |
scott
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JimP. <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 11:01:07 +0000, gareth
> <headstone255.but.not.these.five.words@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 14/03/2017 10:38, I'm Old Gregg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> This could be it.
>>> https://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/prev iewBody/41836-102-1-229511/ARM.Reference_Manual.pdf
>>
>>
>> Many thanks, but worked through that one last night, but it's only
>> an itemisation of the instructions without the binary or hex
>> encoding info that interest me (Because I was brought up on
>> designing computers from the transistor up; transistors give
>> gates, which give registers and instruction decoding, etc.
>> Half-select noise, anybody?
>>
>
> Have you checked on the forums at http://www.adafruit.com ? They also
> have a large number of help pdfs for free download. No need to sign up
> for the pdfs.
ARM has a developer portal - no login or click-through required. They're
gradually moving most of the ARMv8 public documentation to that portal.
https://developer.arm.com/
Search for DDI0487A or "ARM Architecture Reference Manual" , then click the "Download PDF" link.
Search for IHI0069 for the Interrupt Controller documentation
https://developer.arm.com/docs/ihi0069/c
Search for SMMU for the IOMMU documentation
https://developer.arm.com/docs/ihi0062/b/arm-system-memory-m anagement-unit-architecture-specification
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339392 is a reply to message #339363] |
Wed, 15 March 2017 17:00 |
gareth
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On 15/03/2017 13:29, jmfbahciv wrote:
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> However, you reverted back to snivel when challenged. Learn how to
> ignore it. You did byte my hand in another post so be very careful.
Then learn how to ignore it
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339451 is a reply to message #339405] |
Thu, 16 March 2017 12:05 |
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Originally posted by: Brian Reay
On 16/03/17 00:52, FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI wrote:
> "Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message
> news:msvnpd-l1h.ln1@sambook.reistad.name...
>> In article <oaat0n$h46$1@dont-email.me>,
>> Jim GM4DHJ ... <kinvig.netta@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>> "Joe Pfeiffer" <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:1bzigndvxy.fsf@pfeifferfamily.net...
>>>> Guys? This is a nice cozy little newgroup consisting of a bunch of old
>>>> farts reminiscing about computing decades ago. I don't think *any* of
>>>> us have any real interest in whatever crapfest you're talking about.
>>>
>>> some of us hate computers
>>
>> They never do what we want, only what we tell them.
>>
> True, I made a good living out of correcting other people's mistakes.
Indeed, there is a lot of satisfaction (and money) in getting a project
back on track after it has been messed up by someone else. Of course, it
is better if a project isn't messed up in the first place but some
people just don't seem to have the knack of running a project.
The downside of fixing other people's projects is often that you can
find you are traveling too much, which becomes a bind as time goes on. I
tired of traveling too much- at least on business, which is quite
different to traveling for pleasure.
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339962 is a reply to message #339323] |
Tue, 21 March 2017 20:08 |
Mike Tomlinson
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En el artículo <oa9mgq$asr$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Root < <?@?.?> escribió:
> Wasn't he prosecuted for his dubious activities?
Yes.
http://tinyurl.com/loknjt7
"Amateur radio enthusiast Gareth Evans has been given a three-year
conditional discharge after he emailed a school to say one of its
teachers was a pornographer and a danger to children"
"District judge Simon Cooper found Evans guilty, and imposed a
restraining order forbidding him to contact any employer of Mr Reay for
three years, as well as costs of £625"
There's more, much more. Google is your friend.
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(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
(")_(") the one I never tried before." - Mae West
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| Re: ARMv8 in RPi 3? [message #339980 is a reply to message #339962] |
Wed, 22 March 2017 07:03 |
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Originally posted by: Gareth's Downstairs Computer
On 22/03/2017 00:08, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
> En el artículo <oa9mgq$asr$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Root < <?@?.?> escribió:
>
>> Wasn't he prosecuted for his dubious activities?
>
> Yes.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/loknjt7
>
> "Amateur radio enthusiast Gareth Evans has been given a three-year
> conditional discharge after he emailed a school to say one of its
> teachers was a pornographer and a danger to children"
>
> "District judge Simon Cooper found Evans guilty, and imposed a
> restraining order forbidding him to contact any employer of Mr Reay for
> three years, as well as costs of £625"
>
> There's more, much more. Google is your friend.
In your desperation to want to distress me by taking this from the
raspberry pi NG and cross posting to other groups, especially ura which
you know that I read, you forget that I am quite happy for what I
think is a miscarriage of justice to be published.
However, the number of times that you do post and repost this matter
suggests
very strongly that you have a screw loose.
As to the matter itself, I have discussed this at length on Usenet
but am quite happy to discuss it again should anybody ask of me.
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