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The 7 Most Useless Star Trek Main CharactersÂ
By Chris Cummins in Daily Lists , TVÂ
Thursday, September 20, 2012 at 8:00 am
Want to feel old? It's been nearly 50 years since Star Trek originally
hit the airwaves back in 1966. By this point, Gene Roddenberry's
original space saga and its various spin-off series and films have
proven Trek to be the most enduring and popular franchise in
entertainment history...even with some notable missteps along the way.
Whether you chalk it up to sycophantic fanboys or the allure of a future
free from most of the societal ills, Trek has weathered more storms than
a Maquis ship hiding in the Badlands during the past five decades.The
most unforgivable of these screw-ups are characters that were either
misguided ideas from the start or never given the chance to make an
impact on their respective shows. So for today's Daily List, Topless
Robot will be taking a look at the seven most useless characters in Star
Trek's storied history.From annoying curmudgeons to crappy comic relief
aliens, these are all folks who could be (and in some cases were)
jettisoned from their shows without making any kind of impact on the
space/time continuum. As always, your space mileage may vary, so be sure
to mention your picks for the most dispensable characters in the
comments. 7) Jake Sisko  iframe[ www.youtube.com ] As much as it
pains me to say anything negative about Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the
one character who never quite fulfilled his full potential was Jake
Sisko. It would have been easy for the producers to have Jake be nothing
more than a Wesley Crusher clone, but instead they chose for him to
pursue a writing career instead of being Starfleet's latest boy genius.
Unfortunately, when the Dominion War came to dominate the series'
storylines, old Jake-O was lost in the shuffle while supporting
characters like Nog, Garak, Gul Dukat, Weyoun, Damar and even hologram
lounge singer Vic Fontaine found their screen time increasing. Even with
Jake covering the war for the Federation's news service, he wasn't given
much else to do other than stand around and react to the events
surrounding him. Fortunately, the rare Jake-centric episodes -- most
notably "The Visitor" -- focused on his relationship with his father.
This aspect of the program was a welcome look at how family endures
throughout time and space. Although Jake did get the shaft throughout
DS9's run, the series ended with him and Kira staring off to the stars
in a final shot that is still powerful all these years later. 6) Neelix
 iframe[ www.youtube.com ]It's pretty much a Paramount mandate
that at least one main character per Star Trek series has to play the
role of an outsider who voices their thoughts on the human condition.
Thus, the original series gave us Spock, Star Trek: The Next Generation
had Data, Deep Space Nine featured Odo and Voyager offered up Neelix.
Originally joining up with the ship's crew to help guide them through
the Delta Quadrant, he began working as a cook and offering up
advice/tiresome comic relief. But all of the leola root jokes in the
universe couldn't change the fact that the Talaxian was a thorn in the
sides of viewers who kept wondering when the hell Seven of Nine would
saunter on screen again. With the Doctor also handling the specifics of
someone on the outskirts of humanity looking in, the Neelix character
was largely superfluous. Would the series have been dramatically
impacted if he left the show when Kes did? I'll leave you to ponder that
in the comments. Meanwhile, it should be noted that like most of his
fellow cast members on Voyager, Ethan Phillips is a gifted actor who
made the best of the uneven material he had to work with. 5) Kes ÂÂ
iframe[ www.youtube.com ] The main issue with Kes is that she was
initially defined by her relationship with Neelix, himself not the most
necessary character. When audiences didn't buy that a beautiful Ocampa
(portrayed by Jennifer Lien, who deserved better) would shack up with an
alien who resembled a ginger Mr. T stricken with chicken pox, it
paralleled the concerns the show's producers were having about the
romance. The couple was quickly broken up, a move which served to
further weaken Kes' identity aboard Voyager. After four seasons, a few
vocations and several haircuts that were all aimed at making the
rudderless character interesting, Rick Berman and company finally put
Kes out of her mystery with a bit of mystical mumbo jumbo that had her
telekinetic powers taking her to another plane of existence. Or
something. Kes, we hardly knew ye. Also, by watching this clip after the
one from the previous entry you'd be forgiven if you thought that every
episode of Voyager featured Tuvok nearly getting killed/nearly killing
someone. If only the show was that cool... 4) Worf in Star Trek
Insurrection  iframe[ www.youtube.com ]Poor Worf. After being
transferred to Deep Space Nine and thrust into the excitement of the
Dominion War and unprecedented character development he is forced to
assist his former shipmates on a lifeless adventure about a bullshit
Fountain of Youth planet. There's plenty of indignity to go around in
Star Trek Insurrection (a film so atrocious that it makes Star Trek V
look like The Wrath of Khan), but it's everyone's favorite Klingon who
gets the worst treatment. Following a painful action scene in which he,
Data and Picard inexplicably sing Gilbert and Sullivan, he is reduced to
being comic relief because, wait for it, HE GETS A ZIT! You'd think an
otherwise great character like Worf would have realized that there's no
honor in pimple jokes. I hope at least Michael Dorn got one hell of a
payday here. 3) Deanna Troi  iframe[ www.youtube.com ] For some
reason the Internet is completely devoid of a supercut in which Deanna
Troi says "I sense.." repeatedly. But even without the aid of such a
video I'm guessing most of you are aware that a counselor isn't
necessary aboard the largely conflict-free Enterprise. Sure, some of the
ship's crew may need to talk about their fucked up childhoods or how
creepy it was that Barclay made holographic doppelgangers of them. The
real deal though? They make appointments with the counselor solely to
see her in that jumpsuit. As evolved as folks are in the 24th century,
no one is above some good old-fashioned eye candy. 2) Dr. Pulaski
 iframe[ www.youtube.com ] When Gates McFadden left Star Trek:
The Next Generation between the series' first and second season, the
Enterprise suddenly found itself without a chief medical official. Her
replacement was Dr. Katherine Pulaski, a pragmatic doc who was clearly
molded after Dr. McCoy. But Diana Muldaur was no DeForest Kelley -- with
whom she had worked with on an episode of the original Star Trek -- and
Pulaski's personality was a mix of gruffness and sarcasm that never
quite gelled. Throw in her weird space racism towards fan favorite Data,
and it was clear pretty quickly that the character wasn't working out.
Following the second season finale "Shades of Gray" (which had nothing
to do with Riker's obvious S&M fetish), Pulaski quietly departed from
the show. When the third season premiered, Dr. Crusher had returned and
the character was hardly ever mentioned again. Which is exactly how it
should be. 1) Everyone on Enterprise  iframe[
www.youtube.com ] If you count yourself amongst the ranks of the dozen
or so fans of Enterprise in existence and consider this entry a cheap
shot, remember that even the show's producers thought so little of it
that they made the series' finale into a Star Trek: The Next
Generation episode. If that's not a vote of no confidence in the
series and its utterly forgettable crew, I don't know what is. Those
with faith of the heart are obviously entitled to disagree.
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If you can only point to one episode that uses Neelix then you're
practically making the list's point. None of the characters are
completely useless as they all did something. Even Harry Kim sat
in the captain's chair and piloted the ship when the viewers were
asleep. Oops, I meant crew, not viewers. Sorry. As a
whole, though, their impact ranged from "meh" to yawn. Was there
anything fantastically amazing about Neelix as a storyteller? Only
in the sense that Ethan Phillips is a good actor (saddled with a bad
part). Tuvok could have just as easily told the story. Or
the Doctor. Tuvok is an example of a decent character that was
criminally underused. Neelix was just a bad idea from the
beginning. A not-very alien who dressed like a Ferengi used car
salesman, the character seemed to struggle finding a place, veering from
source of information to chef, "morale officer" and babysitter.ÂÂ
It's like nothing worked or stuck. Even his main purpose for being
according to the list -- alien commenting on the human condition --
failed miserably, as he's probably the least "alien" alien ever,
discounting the crimes against fashion. Can you name anything
interesting about Talaxians? They're as boring as Harry Kim. When
did Neelix really matter? There were a handful of Neelix episodes,
most of which were ruined by terribly written endings. His sendoff
was probably his best episode, though it was ridiculous for a number of
reasons and -- again -- it didn't really matter to the series. You
could remove him completely, and apart from being a foil for Tuvok and
being amusing as a Ferengi or a Klingon, you wouldn't miss anything.
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Daniel
 well ill hold my hands up in that i was dead wrong about the dates
on spock and his dad on that one i don't know how i thought that
 my point still stands that the vulcans on enterprise were always
condescending angry secretive and far too emotional it was just
poorly done i didn't say the writers were responsible for how the
klingons looked but that they were the only ones to openly say yeah we
as in the show enterprise messed up but we will fix it and if the
explanation they gave along with the klingons hatred of archer it could
have led to the klingon dislike of the federation and kind of matched
somewhat up with picards explanation of first contact with the klingons
going terribly wrong which i would have been fine with but it just felt
like a quick way to wrap up their mistake and not deal with the
aftermath of it
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Stephen Escudero
the enterprise finale, was a tng episode because they were trying to tie
up loose ends and thematically unite voyager, tng, ds9, and enterprise
and end the universe as their was nothing slated to be a star treik
continuation they were covering their bets. I wish it had been more abut
the enterprise characters. I think the show was only improving each
season and i would have loved to see it go to seven seasons. enterprise
rules bakula is a great captain also jake is a sisko support character
he was never supposed to be the breakout star or go off into his own
heroic storyline he's there to help frame sisko the star of the show.
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Radb707
I haven't read anything about it being a mistake, but I'm not sure what
you're trying to say. I'm not sure how forehead ridges would fit into
Broken Bow. The episode matched up with Picard's explanation of first
contact with the Klingons. The Klingons saw what happened as a dishonor,
and put the Federation on their shit list. Granted, most races were on
it too. Also, the explanation was NOT a "quick way". It was a two
episode story arc. It also fit with Worf's "We don't like to talk about
it" since genetic manipulation embarrassed the empire.
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Greg
 True, but in her mind, Data was on a par with a really good
lawnmower that had pips attached to its collar. The fact that it is a
superior officer is a quirk of Starfleet's, not of her perception.
Furthermore, from a medical standpoint, it has no chromosomes to define
it as male or female, despite being "fully functional", so it is
absolutely correct to refer to Data as "it".
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Daniel
 well we both agree that it could fit with picard and worfs
explanation its just that for the first episode of a new star trek
series and a prequel at that to have klingons looking like they did in
tng and not address it till halfway through season four just felt sloppy
to me to me it felt like they were trying to tie in more with tngÂÂ
than tos and that ending is just the worst example of that and to think
it was described as a love letter to fans
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At the time, having Whoopi Goldberg as a recurring character in your
sci-fi show was quite the coup so thus we had Guinan. Troi could offer
advice, but most of what Guinan offered was more mysterious, yoda-ish
and metaphysical that just wouldn't work with Troi's background.
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Zathras6767
I viewed it as "The Deconstruction Of Falling Stars" for Star Trek.Loved
it.
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Refuge5
Jake Sisko is necessary if for no other reason, the episode,
The Visitor - one of Star Trek's greatest episodes.  Enterpise was
so much better than Voyager....  The 3rd season of ENT was actually
pretty good Star Trek
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arivalscientist
Does anybody else wish they just made a series about that Mirror/Mirror
Enterprise........easily the best story out of that whole miserable
Enterprise run.
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Daniel
 yes but only as a thirty minute comedy with every episode ending
with the old captain being killed and the assassin becoming the new
captain
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Refuge5
The 4th Season (or the last one) is good Star Trek - not the 3rd....
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fishercl64
I didn't care for it because I found it boring. I didn't care for
the temporal cold war plot. Thought Archer was annoying and less than
heroic. Didn't really connect with any of the characters other than Trip
who was likable. So I didn't stick it out until the show
got better. I did go back and watch the Mirror universe episodes
later and was wondering why the main characters couldn't be half as
interesting as their evil counterparts. So there's my reasons. Your
milage may vary.
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I think ST:Enterprise had some amazing potential, but they were
obviously trying to set themselves apart from all who had gone before,
which was how they shat the bed. They got too far away from the source
material. The shadow agency shit with the British guy, the fact that
Scott Bakula would have made a better doctor than he did a captain, the
cheeky shit like having Dean Stockwell as a guest star and all the "we
all know what we're talking about here, right?" allusions pertaining to
future generation things like the Prime Directive...it was just handled
badly. But it could have been great. However, no matter how badly it was
going, I still maintain that it didn't blow donkey dick nearly as badly
as Voyager did. If Voyager got its full run, Enterprise should have as
well. Plus we got to see erotic decontamination lotion-rubbing and
T'Pol's ass, so it's got the cock-teases of Voyager beat hands down.
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Ohwell78
Dr. Phlox was an excellent character. he was trapped in a shitty version
of Star Trek, but he would have done well on any other series.
Personally I preferred him to bashir and his own episodes were
much better than the gates Mcfadden centered episodes.ÂÂ
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 No. I'm sorry, but no. Motion Picture did not deliver as many
memorable lines or events as V did. If I had to pick one to watch over
and over again for the rest of eternity, I can guarantee that it
wouldn't be endless hours of the "Hey! Let's take 10 or 15 minutes to
see how much work we put into the model!" flyby of the Enterprise.
Nope...I'll take me an endless loop of "What does God need with a
Starship?!" any day.
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Adam
 Is there a reason you keep calling him Feelix?
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Jeff Stone
I honestly didn't even realize I was doing that.  My brain must
have been subconsciously combining Neelix with Felix the Cat. In fact
now that I re-read it. The first time I spell it in the second comment,
I literally wrote Felix. Excuse me. I apparently need to go take my
memory medicine. If I could ever remember where I put them.
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Kirkbwriter
Well, yes.
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My biggest problem with Enterprise is that it was crippled by Voyager's
formula. From recycled, reset-button plots to characters that
remained stagnant, Enterprise seemed content to deliver Trek that had
been regurgitated so many times that the only effort involved was
remembering all the previous episodes they plagiarized. By the
time they had figured out this wasn't the key to success, they had lost
too many viewers. So, I disagree. It didn't deviate enough, until
it was too late.
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JillClayburghFan
 Wow. I couldn't disagree more. To me, DS9 is a shining example of
everything Trek can be, and what it never was again. DS9 is WHY I can't
enjoy Voyager or Enterprise, it left them trailing so far behind it,
never to catch up.
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Well, here is why I disliked it and stopped watching it: 1) Recycled
plots - From tired seen-them-a-million-times plots to episodes that
seemed to be lifted wholesale from previous shows, Enterprise did almost
as much "borrowing" as Voyager. Also like Voyager, the originals
were almost always superior. 2) The Great Reset Button - For a show that
wanted to pretend it was doing long-term plotting and stories, most
episodes left everything unchanged from one to the next. This is
the single biggest problem Trek has in my opinion, and Enterprise
embraced it as heavily as Voyager. Even big episodes that hinted
at major consequences frequently failed to follow up on anything
substantial. It's like the series is written by someone who only
has short term memory. 3) Stagnant characters - You could tell from the
second episode that Travis Mayweather was going to be the new Harry Kim
-- someone as exciting as wallpaper who gets throwaway technobabble
every now and then and proceeds to do little more than occupy space for
the next number of years. Apart from the central three, the rest of the
characters had one or two defining traits that either were made
non-issues (Hoshi) or were undeveloped (Reed). None of them seemed
to have a trajectory, an arc, or somewhere interesting to go. You
could easily swap their lines or characters and nothing would
change. Because none of them ever did. All of these things combine
to make a creatively bankrupt show. When characters can't grow and
change because everything is supposed to be status quo from one episode
to the next, nothing of consequence ever happens or is remembered.ÂÂ
The temporal cold war was a nifty (if problematic) idea that was set up
to fail. You can't have an overarching story if the show and
characters are allergic to change. I have to admit that I fully
expected it to be Reset Buttoned out of existence, but even I was
surprised at how it went out with such a half-hearted whimper.
Enterprise set out to fix some of this in its third and fourth seasons,
but by then lots of people stopped watching. I didn't even last
the first season, since it was clearly More Voyager, and I found that
idea simply horrifying.
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 Voyager was terrible, no question. I'm not sure if it was worse
than Enterprise, though. At least with Voyager, it was aggressively
silly and stupid. Threshold, anyone? Enterprise, though, was just meh
most of the time. Not good enough to get excited about, not terrible
enough to get a twisted sense of enjoyment out of it. When it was bad
(which was fairly often) it was bad in the worst possible ways (Dear
Doctor genocide, for instance). It's the difference between watching an
Ed Wood film or a Colman Francis film. The first is usually hilariously
bad, but at least entertaining. The second is just bad, boring, and
infuriating.
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Jamie Insalaco
wow lots of star trek movie talk in the comments! sorry to go off topic,
but i did want to say that I've always thought Nemesis was the worst of
the movies. There is a ton of things to dislike in Star Trek V,
and the pacing is awful in Star Trek TMP, but I've found Insurrection to
be totally watchable. At least the bad guys motivation is clear
(see Star Trek V: "I've always wanted to engage a federation ship in
combat!" AND Nemesis: just do the blood transfusion already! wait,
you want to blow up earth why, exactly?) and there isn't any rape
(Nemesis: "It was a... violation.") or fan dancing... anyway, if
you've interested in the zillions of reasons I hate star trek V, check
the link below. although, again, i still think Nemesis is the
worst. Data's death didn't register with me at all... and
why couldn't he just replicate a second emergency beam out device?ÂÂ
http://creativejamie.com/2012/05/01/star-trek-v-the-final-fr ontier-movie-review/Â
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Most of what you said isn't really the case, though. The characters
aren't particularly interesting and it hardly feels like man's real
steps into the unknown. I do agree with the interior of the ship and how
it is more militaristic -- but that's a really superficial thing,
unfortunately. If you want really good, in-depth analysis about why
Enterprise is terrible, I suggest you take a look at SFDebris. He does
an excellent job of describing why episodes are just stupid and bad, but
does give credit where its due on those rare occasions when it is due.
He's also hilariously funny. http://sfdebris.com/Â
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I think Neelix should be higher on the list, and the choice for #1 is a
bit polarizing. Even though I gave up on the show, I've heard good
things about the last two seasons and will probably check them out
eventually. My #1 choice would be one of the following: Harry
Kim/Travis Mayweather -- They're essentially the same
(non)-character. The idea of an everyman/lower decks character is
fine, but both characters boldly went nowhere. After 7 years, I
can't point to any change or growth in Harry, and I knew from
Enterprise's second episode, Travis would be no different. I have
no idea why Star Trek deems it necessary to fill useless/boring
positions with full cast members, or wants to have characters that never
change, grow, or do anything remotely interesting. Every
Flawed-But-Fixed character (i.e. Geordi LaForge, Chakotay, Hoshi Sato)
-- This is such a weird phenomenon. Trek makes these characters
with interesting quirks -- Geordi's blind, Hoshi is crippled by fear,
Chakotay is a Maquis leader -- and then they totally nerf them.ÂÂ
Geordi can see with his VISOR. It was supposed to cause him great
pain or discomfort, which was instantly forgotten and never mentioned
again. I can count on one hand the number of times Geordi's
quote-unquote blindness mattered. Mostly his VISOR was an
occasional plot device. Hoshi's issues were fixed almost immediately and
we all see where the big two crews/Maquis conflict went. Most
dramas create characters that are different and explore how conflict,
cooperation, and different personalities affect the story. Trek
seems to prefer making a small number of distinct characters and then
filling the ranks with interchangeable action figures who can barely be
told apart. These characters end up little better than Harry -- they
become defined by their position, and maybe once a year an episode comes
around that uses something unique to them. The rest of the time,
they are plot devices or technobabble spouters. I honestly don't know
which is worse -- characters created to be boring and pointless, or
potentially interesting characters neutered into boring pointlessness.
Special Bonus Nomination: B'Elanna Torres. Who was the genius who
thought up putting a half-Klingon with identity issues on a show where
they're in the Delta Quadrant, far away from other Klingons and Klingon
society? On an already ridiculous show, they had to invent
increasingly ludicrous reasons to run into Klingons or have Very Special
Klingon episodes. Of course, that all became moot when she became
Lt. Girlfriend and any identity beyond that ceased to matter.
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 Is there a transcript of this telling-off somewhere? I'm not
interested in the book, but this one bit has me intrigued.
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Thomas Stockel
Well said! They even ripped off characters from Voyager; i.e.
T'Pol was obviously a recycled 7 of 9. The ship design was
reminiscent of The Akira class, a popular design. I think if they had
wanted to really shake things up one of the things they could have done
was alter the bridge layout. Make it look more like a submarine
conn and as the series progressed have them make alterations. Have
them install a captain's chair by season one's end, have a main
viewscreen added between seasons. Give viewers the feel that we
are seeing the evolution of 'Trek.
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It was average in comparison to the other deeply mediocre Trek movies I
guess.  I can say Insurrection was the point where I turned in my
Trekkie card.
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Zathras6767
Do I really need to refer to mankind's stumbling in the dark,warfare,for
centuries finally settling their differences?.It has been a loooong
road.
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Ah see now that is a nice explanation. Unfortunately, that theme sounds
like Enterprise is the end of that journey and not a prequel to a
massive mythology...
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Zathras6767
Because it stole the best elements from Babylon 5.Why a space
station?.In a supposedly neutral,but contested part of space?.With a
government to far away to make a difference,making the station commander
a governor?.With said commander being the "Prophet"(Valen)?.The only
thing that saved their creative asses was the "Unstable Wormhole"
gimmick to deliver each week's nonsense.Babylon 5 had story arcs that
could last weeks,even years until they reached fruition.So,no it is not
a shining example.
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Baines
Neelix was a pointless character on a show. Enterprise was a
pointless show. Even if you knock out Enterprise as a gag entry, you
open the field for Enterprise characters. Neelix and Kes may have
been superfluous on Voyager, but at least they had presence and the
writers did try to make more of them, though they failed. At
worst, they were the level of Enterprise's Hoshi Sato. But
Enterprise set the bottom of the scale with Travis Mayweather...
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Obtruder
Im glad at the mention of Worf in Insurrection. Even his appearance
generated a "what the fuck is he doing here?" reaction, as he literally
walks on, has some BS excuse why he is there, and sticks around for the
rest of the movie being mostly useless or the butt of stupid jokes
(found throughout). Some people say Nemesis is the worst TNG film, and I
disagree, Insurrection had tons of potential but was just a
giant piece of shit that showcased Picard getting his rocks
off.
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Baines
 Yes, Enterprise felt a lot like Voyager, or at least the bad parts
of Voyager. Then you add in the bad acting, the worse writing, the
disregard for previous established reality (on a prequel show), and the
"Archer is a god who is more Kirk than Kirk" mindset (Kirk can hold his
own against a Vulcan in a fist fight? Well, Archer can take out
three at once, without breaking a sweat!), and you get the slow
trainwreck that was Enterprise.
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Well said,sir!.Kinda ties in with my thoughts earlier about the
franchise having suffered since it's creator's death.If it could have
been a bit more daring,it would have been one for the history
books.Thanks!.
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Well, you're presenting your thoughts and opinions as facts, so I'm not
going to descend the rabbit-hole of endless debate that could easily
transpire. I'm not going to get into whether or not DS9 was a ripoff of
Babylon 5 because, frankly, I don't care. Instead I'm going to leave my
answer as simple as possible: Because unlike Voyager or Enterprise, or
even Babylon 5, *I* was genuinely engaged, thrilled, and entertained
when watching DS9.
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Ha! Nice, almost spat out my cheetos.
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I completely respect your opinion,and agree with you on DS9.There were
many episodes that were great."The Emissary" is one of my favorite
episodes.Period.As regards my "thoughts & opinions",B5 creator JMS has
admitted he's grown weary explaining the particulars of the DS9/B5
debate.I'm merely relating what he's been saying for nearly 20 years.
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I wouldn't call the run miserable,but....having a series take place
entirely in the mirror universe (Including credits!)would be
awesome!.Imagine if it were produced by "Mirror"Manny Coto?!?.
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Aye sir,the lotion!And T'pol's ass!.Huzzah!.
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SF Debris is great--the moment I saw Neelix as the article image, the
first word that came to mind was "shithead". Don't forget about how
useless Torres could be; she couldn't even identify shit without a
tricorder. Also, Janeway was only useless 40% of the time; it depended
on who was writing her. Kate Mulgrew couldn't get a handle on the
character because of the uneven writing.ÂÂ
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DICK JONES RUNS OCP!
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I kind of liked Neelix, and I always thought it was lame to see Kes go
to the douchiest crewmember. Hey Rob, don't be hating on weird
looking alien dudes hooking up with fine-ass heinas. It's the
inside that counts, remember?
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Whoa-really? Hatin' on the Trek?
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In cosplay? This is important.
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I remember that scene. The most outrageous thing about Pulaski's comment
was NOT merely that she was making a cruel and hateful remark to a
crewmember that was a little different--she was making a cruel and
hateful remark TO A SUPERIOR OFFICER! Picard should have officially
reprimanded her for public insubordination--at the very LEAST. If
anyone reading this is a sailor, try calling your Second Officer "IT" in
front of the entire bridge crew....See if the Captain does nothing more
than politely correct you :P
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I enjoyed Enterprise's "In a Mirror, Darkly" much more than most Star
Trek episodes I've seen. It was a great idea that they could have easily
followed up on. Instead, we got an entire season about the Xindi.
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Glad to see Troi on there, Riker probably should have been there also.
 Disagree about Enterprise.  Trip was a great character; very
compelling and the best part was he was a regular human, good at his
job.  No new form of life outsider robot program.  Just a
regular guy and yet he sold every story he was part of.  Season 3
of enterprise was some of the best Trek ever but yeah their captain was
worse than Janeway, Even worse than Kirk, at least Kirk's goofy antics
were enteraining. Archer was just bland, which is strange because I've
seen some good performances from that guy.
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I liked Trip also.
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