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HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4 [message #336450] Sun, 29 January 2017 15:09 Go to next message
William Tomcanin is currently offline  William Tomcanin
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Hello everyone,

I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate
receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old"
(original) hard drive.

I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years. How should I
replace and/or upgrade it?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4 [message #336451 is a reply to message #336450] Sun, 29 January 2017 15:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.

You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the rest of the G4.

Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy controllers.
-James

Sent from my mobile device.

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin <wt8091373@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old" (original) hard drive.
>
> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years. How should I replace and/or upgrade it?
>
> Thanks in advance!
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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4 [message #336452 is a reply to message #336451] Sun, 29 January 2017 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Is this a hobby computer or a machine that has been a DAW or other
workstation?
That would mean a great difference.
Or is it the only dire option between you and being cut off from the world.
Or perhaps a trusted and faithful companion you cannot part with?

Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, James Knight <dr.james.knight@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small
> reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.
>
> You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the
> bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the
> rest of the G4.
>
> Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy
> controllers.
> -James
>
> Sent from my mobile device.
>
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin <wt8091373@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate
> receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old"
> (original) hard drive.
>
> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years. How should I
> replace and/or upgrade it?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4 [message #336461 is a reply to message #336450] Sun, 29 January 2017 17:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Barney Guzzo is currently offline  Barney Guzzo
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I have the same machine and still use it all the time because there is so much good software that I use which is not available for my Macbook Pro. I installed a gigabit PCI ethernet card, a sata drive with SeriTek 1S2 PCI controller, an external Firewire OWC hard drive, GeForce4 Ti 4600 video card, 1.5 GB ram, and a 4 port usb card.

My advice fwiw - Choose a sata drive with the best warranty and capacity you are looking for. Back up everything you have. Install the SeriTek 1S2 in any open PCI slot. It allows you to connect up to two internal sata drives. Install new drive(s) (I used Seagate 7200 rpm 500GB), connect, format, reboot, and reinstall software and your other data. I had zero issues with this set up. You can always hook up an external firewire drive as well. I chose an OWC unit and it works well. Again, choose something with a good warranty and just connect, format, and reboot.

Note - My sata drives do not show up in the System Profiler. I never bothered to find out why but maybe because they are being run through the PCI card. They do show up in Disk Utility.


Barney

> On Jan 29, 2017, at 3:09 PM, William Tomcanin <wt8091373@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old" (original) hard drive.
>
> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years. How should I replace and/or upgrade it?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4 [message #336468 is a reply to message #336452] Sun, 29 January 2017 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
William Tomcanin is currently offline  William Tomcanin
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I currently use the G4 to run legacy S/W -- I guess it's more of a hobby
machine and not my primary H/W.

I do have a lot of audio and photo files on it, as well as some legacy PPC
S/W that I do not want to loose.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:10 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstringer@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is this a hobby computer or a machine that has been a DAW or other
> workstation?
> That would mean a great difference.
> Or is it the only dire option between you and being cut off from the
> world. Or perhaps a trusted and faithful companion you cannot part with?
>
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
> fluxstringer@gmail.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
> http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
> https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, James Knight <dr.james.knight@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small
>> reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.
>>
>> You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the
>> bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the
>> rest of the G4.
>>
>> Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy
>> controllers.
>> -James
>>
>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin <wt8091373@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would appreciate
>> receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for my "old"
>> (original) hard drive.
>>
>> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years. How should I
>> replace and/or upgrade it?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> --
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Re: HD recommendations for 2002 Quicksilver G4 [message #336475 is a reply to message #336468] Sun, 29 January 2017 21:20 Go to previous message
W.Adrian D'Alessio is currently offline  W.Adrian D'Alessio
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You may find the controllers and drives if you join the Low End Macs Swap
list.

Good luck


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On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:51 PM, William Tomcanin <wt8091373@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I currently use the G4 to run legacy S/W -- I guess it's more of a hobby
> machine and not my primary H/W.
>
> I do have a lot of audio and photo files on it, as well as some legacy PPC
> S/W that I do not want to loose.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 4:10 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <
> fluxstringer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is this a hobby computer or a machine that has been a DAW or other
>> workstation?
>> That would mean a great difference.
>> Or is it the only dire option between you and being cut off from the
>> world. Or perhaps a trusted and faithful companion you cannot part with?
>>
>> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
>> fluxstringer@gmail.com
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
>> http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 3:34 PM, James Knight <dr.james.knight@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Personally I would get a sata to ide adapter and get any modern small
>>> reputable ssd. Clone it with ccc or similar.
>>>
>>> You won't have trim but with garbage collection on the drive and the
>>> bottleneck of the ide bus it should still be way faster and outlast the
>>> rest of the G4.
>>>
>>> Last time i researched this all the actual IDE ssd drives had crappy
>>> controllers.
>>> -James
>>>
>>> Sent from my mobile device.
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 15:09, William Tomcanin <wt8091373@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I'm sure that this question has been asked before, but I would
>>> appreciate receiving any information regarding replacement / upgrades for
>>> my "old" (original) hard drive.
>>>
>>> I'm concerned that it has been with me for over 15 years. How should I
>>> replace and/or upgrade it?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
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>>> Power Macs.
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