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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #20699 is a reply to message #16361] |
Tue, 23 October 2012 20:44   |
Ron
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On Sep 17, 2:04 pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
> In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>
> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Woot!
>
> http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star-...
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> I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by the
> fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively simple
> Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I doubt
> even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought the concept was viable. There's a
theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagnetic
"side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon the
electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes this ordinary guy-- a
Canadian at that-- by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
around with RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what he
might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
combination. But th siscovery is out there: all it takes is somebody
witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
Ron
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #20739 is a reply to message #20699] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 04:11 |
MITO MINISTER
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On Oct 24, 9:44 am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2:04 pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
>
>> In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>
>> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Woot!
>
>> http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star-...
>
>> I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by the
>> fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively simple
>> Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I doubt
>> even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
>
> Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
> idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
> skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought the concept was viable. There's a
> theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagnetic
> "side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon the
> electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
> interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes this ordinary guy-- a
> Canadian at that-- by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
> around with RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
>
> Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
> than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
> this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
> He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what he
> might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
> combination. But th siscovery is out there: all it takes is somebody
> witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
> viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>
> Ron
Yeah, that's all it takes.....
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #20740 is a reply to message #20699] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 04:16 |
MITO MINISTER
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On Oct 24, 9:44 am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2:04 pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
>
>> In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
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>> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Woot!
>
>> http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star-...
>
>> I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by the
>> fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively simple
>> Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I doubt
>> even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
>
> Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
> idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
> skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought the concept was viable. There's a
> theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagnetic
> "side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon the
> electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
> interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes this ordinary guy-- a
> Canadian at that-- by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
> around with RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
>
> Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
> than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
> this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
> He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what he
> might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
> combination. But th siscovery is out there: all it takes is somebody
> witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
> viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>
> Ron
The guy is a crackpot and a fool. His website is a few sandwiches
short of a picnic basket.
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #20784 is a reply to message #20740] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 13:39 |
Ron
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On Oct 24, 1:16 am, MITO MINISTER <cigarmanw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 9:44 am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>
>
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>> On Sep 17, 2:04 pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
>
>>> In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>
>>> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Woot!
>
>>> http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star-....
>
>>> I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by the
>>> fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively simple
>>> Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I doubt
>>> even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
>
>> Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
>> idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
>> skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought the concept was viable. There's a
>> theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagnetic
>> "side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon the
>> electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
>> interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes this ordinary guy-- a
>> Canadian at that-- by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
>> around with RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
>
>> Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
>> than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
>> this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
>> He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what he
>> might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
>> combination. But th siscovery is out there: all it takes is somebody
>> witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
>> viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>
>> Ron
>
> The guy is a crackpot and a fool. His website is a few sandwiches
> short of a picnic basket.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It doesn't matter if he has the IQ of a brick, he did what no one else
has done; he discovered an entirely new EM effect that if properly
harnessed, could change the world and give us star travel without all
the Einsteinian silliness. But as usual, the scientific community has
its head up its ass and soesn't see what's happening-- won't until
some engineer or experimenter makes a shit-load of money, then
everyone will be saying "Oh, I knew it would work all along. I had th
same idea way back..." This is the tragic history of science &
technology.
Ron
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"As a scientist I must be mindful of the past; all too often it has
happened that matters of great value to science were over -looked
because the new phenomenon did not fit the accepted scientific outlook
of the time."
–– Allen J. Hynek ––
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #20800 is a reply to message #20740] |
Wed, 24 October 2012 15:51 |
YourName
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In article
<aadf020e-3cab-4106-9b10-7e719c2c9400@o3g2000pbk.googlegroups.com>, MITO
MINISTER <cigarmanwine@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 9:44=A0am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 2:04=A0pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
>>> In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>>> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> Woot!
>>
>>> http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star-...
>>
>>> I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by the
>>> fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively simpl=
> e
>>> Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I dou=
> bt
>>> even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
>>
>> Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
>> idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
>> skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought =A0the concept was viable. There's a
>> theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagnetic
>> "side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon the
>> electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
>> interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes =A0this ordinary guy-- a
>> Canadian at that-- =A0by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
>> around with =A0RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
>>
>> Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
>> than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
>> this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
>> He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what he
>> might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
>> combination. But th siscovery is out there: all =A0it takes is somebody
>> witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
>> viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... =A0;-)
>
> The guy is a crackpot and a fool. His website is a few sandwiches
> short of a picnic basket.
Not just the sandwhiches, but the juice, the cake, the pie, picnic
blanket, and the picnic basket itself. ;-)
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21076 is a reply to message #21075] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 19:07 |
YourName
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In article
<06a5553a-325d-47f1-8e2a-64995e170506@qi10g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>, Ron
<orion@centurylink.net> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 5:07=A0pm, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote innews:YourName-2510120852220001@2=
> 03-118-187-74.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>>> In article <XnsA0F63D242CAFepwiseyahoo...@69.16.185.252>, Wiseguy
>>> <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in
>>>> news:YourName-2410121609470001@ 203-118-187-78.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>>>> > In article
>>>> > <572801b7-3b97-4cfd-8071-a44a4acf6...@m5g2000pbv.googlegroups.com>,
>>>> > Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>>> >> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... =A0;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > That's what R2 units are for ... opps! Wrong "Star" franchise. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> You mean "oops."
>>>
>>> Nope. You have to go and see the guy in Opps to be assigned an R2
>>> unit. =A0;-)
>>
>> You're not the only one who misspells oops. I've seen it many times.
>> Almost as bad as misspelling etc. as ect. which is becoming too common.
>>
>> Nevertheless, you meant "oops" and typed "opps."- Hide quoted text -
>
> I just have a bad keyboard and too cheap to fix it... :-)
I have limited online time and a dial-up connection - I simply don't have
the time, nor desire, to pedantically spell check every single word (and
there's no auto spell check in this newsreader software). The meaning is,
usually, perfectly clear.
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21077 is a reply to message #21076] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 20:25 |
Wiseguy
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YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in
news:YourName-2710121207440001@203-118-187-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
> In article
> <06a5553a-325d-47f1-8e2a-64995e170506@qi10g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
> Ron <orion@centurylink.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 5:07=A0pm, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote
>>> innews:YourName-2510120852220001@2=
>> 03-118-187-74.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>>>> In article <XnsA0F63D242CAFepwiseyahoo...@69.16.185.252>, Wiseguy
>>>> <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in
>>>> > news:YourName-2410121609470001@
>>>> > 203-118-187-78.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>>>> > > In article
>>>> > > <572801b7-3b97-4cfd-8071-a44a4acf6...
@m5g2000pbv.googlegroups.c
>>>> > > om>, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>>> > >> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... =A0;-)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > That's what R2 units are for ... opps! Wrong "Star" franchise.
>>>> > > ;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > You mean "oops."
>>>>
>>>> Nope. You have to go and see the guy in Opps to be assigned an R2
>>>> unit. =A0;-)
>>>
>>> You're not the only one who misspells oops. I've seen it many
>>> times. Almost as bad as misspelling etc. as ect. which is becoming
>>> too common.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, you meant "oops" and typed "opps."- Hide quoted text
>>> -
>>
>> I just have a bad keyboard and too cheap to fix it... :-)
>
> I have limited online time and a dial-up connection - I simply don't
> have the time, nor desire, to pedantically spell check every single
> word (and there's no auto spell check in this newsreader software).
> The meaning is, usually, perfectly clear.
>
As I've stated, yours isn't the only case in evidence. It is beginning
to be almost as common as to for too and there for they're or their.
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21078 is a reply to message #21077] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 22:00 |
YourName
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In article <XnsA0F8C59A44A4Aepwiseyahoocom@69.16.185.252>, Wiseguy
<epwise@yahoo.com> wrote:
> YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in
> news:YourName-2710121207440001@203-118-187-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>> Ron <orion@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 5:07=A0pm, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Your Name wrote:
>>>> > Wiseguy wrote:
>>>> >> Your Name wrote:
>>>> >> > Ron wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>>> >> >> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > That's what R2 units are for ... opps! Wrong "Star" franchise.
>>>> >> > ;-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You mean "oops."
>>>> >
>>>> > Nope. You have to go and see the guy in Opps to be assigned an R2
>>>> > unit. =A0;-)
>>>>
>>>> You're not the only one who misspells oops. I've seen it many
>>>> times. Almost as bad as misspelling etc. as ect. which is becoming
>>>> too common.
>>>>
>>>> Nevertheless, you meant "oops" and typed "opps."- Hide quoted text
>>>
>>> I just have a bad keyboard and too cheap to fix it... :-)
>>
>> I have limited online time and a dial-up connection - I simply don't
>> have the time, nor desire, to pedantically spell check every single
>> word (and there's no auto spell check in this newsreader software).
>> The meaning is, usually, perfectly clear.
>
> As I've stated, yours isn't the only case in evidence. It is beginning
> to be almost as common as to for too and there for they're or their.
Except mine was just a typo due to haste, not done on purpose. :-)
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21079 is a reply to message #21078] |
Fri, 26 October 2012 23:49 |
Wiseguy
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YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in news:YourName-2710121500080001
@203-118-187-120.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
> In article <XnsA0F8C59A44A4Aepwiseyahoocom@69.16.185.252>, Wiseguy
> <epwise@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in
>> news:YourName-2710121207440001@203-118-187-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>>> Ron <orion@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Oct 24, 5:07=A0pm, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > Your Name wrote:
>>>> > > Wiseguy wrote:
>>>> > >> Your Name wrote:
>>>> > >> > Ron wrote:
>>>> > >> >>
>>>> > >> >> Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>>> > >> >> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>>>> > >> >
>>>> > >> > That's what R2 units are for ... opps! Wrong "Star"
franchise.
>>>> > >> > ;-)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> You mean "oops."
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Nope. You have to go and see the guy in Opps to be assigned an
R2
>>>> > > unit. =A0;-)
>>>> >
>>>> > You're not the only one who misspells oops. I've seen it many
>>>> > times. Almost as bad as misspelling etc. as ect. which is
becoming
>>>> > too common.
>>>> >
>>>> > Nevertheless, you meant "oops" and typed "opps."- Hide quoted
text
>>>>
>>>> I just have a bad keyboard and too cheap to fix it... :-)
>>>
>>> I have limited online time and a dial-up connection - I simply
don't
>>> have the time, nor desire, to pedantically spell check every single
>>> word (and there's no auto spell check in this newsreader software).
>>> The meaning is, usually, perfectly clear.
>>
>> As I've stated, yours isn't the only case in evidence. It is
beginning
>> to be almost as common as to for too and there for they're or their.
>
> Except mine was just a typo due to haste, not done on purpose. :-)
>
OK, but the others aren't done "on purpose" either, the errors are due
to ignorance.
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21080 is a reply to message #21079] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 00:05 |
YourName
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In article <XnsA0F8E82C612B7epwiseyahoocom@69.16.185.252>, Wiseguy
<epwise@yahoo.com> wrote:
> YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in news:YourName-2710121500080001
> @203-118-187-120.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>> In article <XnsA0F8C59A44A4Aepwiseyahoocom@69.16.185.252>, Wiseguy
>> <epwise@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote in
>>> news:YourName-2710121207440001@203-118-187-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz:
>>>> Ron <orion@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> > On Oct 24, 5:07=A0pm, Wiseguy <epw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > > Your Name wrote:
>>>> > > > Wiseguy wrote:
>>>> > > >> Your Name wrote:
>>>> > > >> > Ron wrote:
>>>> > > >> >>
>>>> > > >> >> Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>>> > > >> >> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>>>> > > >> >
>>>> > > >> > That's what R2 units are for ... opps! Wrong "Star"
> franchise.
>>>> > > >> > ;-)
>>>> > > >>
>>>> > > >> You mean "oops."
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > Nope. You have to go and see the guy in Opps to be assigned an
> R2
>>>> > > > unit. =A0;-)
>>>> > >
>>>> > > You're not the only one who misspells oops. I've seen it many
>>>> > > times. Almost as bad as misspelling etc. as ect. which is
> becoming
>>>> > > too common.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Nevertheless, you meant "oops" and typed "opps."- Hide quoted
> text
>>>> >
>>>> > I just have a bad keyboard and too cheap to fix it... :-)
>>>>
>>>> I have limited online time and a dial-up connection - I simply
> don't
>>>> have the time, nor desire, to pedantically spell check every single
>>>> word (and there's no auto spell check in this newsreader software).
>>>> The meaning is, usually, perfectly clear.
>>>
>>> As I've stated, yours isn't the only case in evidence. It is
> beginning
>>> to be almost as common as to for too and there for they're or their.
>>
>> Except mine was just a typo due to haste, not done on purpose. :-)
>
> OK, but the others aren't done "on purpose" either, the errors are due
> to ignorance.
In the previous reply I did type "not done on purpose, or in ignorance, or
lack of proper education", but then edited out the last two options before
posting it. :-)
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21081 is a reply to message #20784] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 09:35 |
MITO MINISTER
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On Oct 25, 2:39 am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 1:16 am, MITO MINISTER <cigarmanw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>> On Oct 24, 9:44 am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>
>>> On Sep 17, 2:04 pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
>
>>>> In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>
>>>> <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > Woot!
>
>>>> http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star-...
>
>>>> I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by the
>>>> fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively simple
>>>> Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I doubt
>>>> even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
>
>>> Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
>>> idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
>>> skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought the concept was viable. There's a
>>> theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagnetic
>>> "side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon the
>>> electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
>>> interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes this ordinary guy-- a
>>> Canadian at that-- by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
>>> around with RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
>
>>> Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
>>> than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
>>> this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
>>> He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what he
>>> might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
>>> combination. But th siscovery is out there: all it takes is somebody
>>> witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
>>> viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... ;-)
>
>>> Ron
>
>> The guy is a crackpot and a fool. His website is a few sandwiches
>> short of a picnic basket.- Hide quoted text -
>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> It doesn't matter if he has the IQ of a brick, he did what no one else
> has done; he discovered an entirely new EM effect that if properly
> harnessed, could change the world and give us star travel without all
> the Einsteinian silliness. But as usual, the scientific community has
> its head up its ass and soesn't see what's happening-- won't until
> some engineer or experimenter makes a shit-load of money, then
> everyone will be saying "Oh, I knew it would work all along. I had th
> same idea way back..." This is the tragic history of science &
> technology.
>
> Ron
>
> ------------------------------------
> "As a scientist I must be mindful of the past; all too often it has
> happened that matters of great value to science were over -looked
> because the new phenomenon did not fit the accepted scientific outlook
> of the time."
>
> –– Allen J. Hynek ––
He has discovered NOTHING! His claims are bogus! Wanna buy an ORGONE
accumalator?
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21082 is a reply to message #21081] |
Sat, 27 October 2012 16:55 |
YourName
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<531227ae-d8d3-4b7e-a602-ee2926fe95f8@sh1g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, MITO
MINISTER <cigarmanwine@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2:39=A0am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 24, 1:16=A0am, MITO MINISTER <cigarmanw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Oct 24, 9:44=A0am, Ron <or...@centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>> On Sep 17, 2:04=A0pm, YourN...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:
>>>> > In article <k37o35$a9...@dont-email.me>, ToolPackinMama
>>>> > <philnbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> > > Woot!
>>
>>>> > http://gizmodo.com/5942634/nasa-starts-development-of-real-l ife-star=
> -...
>>
>>>> > I wouldn't get too excited. They're only "starting" and judging by =
> the
>>>> > fact that they still haven't got a replacement for the relatively s=
> imple
>>>> > Shuttle, we definitely won't see "warp drive" in out lifetime and I=
> doubt
>>>> > even our great-great-great-grandchildren will see it either.
>>
>>>> Maybe FTL is closer than you think. E.E. "Doc" Smith came up with the
>>>> idea for the inertialess drive way back in the '30s and even super-
>>>> skeptic, Arthur C. Clarke thought =A0the concept was viable. There's =
> a
>>>> theory (Haisch, Rueda, and Puthoff) that inertia is an electromagneti=
> c
>>>> "side-effect" that stems from the the zero-point field acting upon th=
> e
>>>> electrically charged particles in matter and as such those
>>>> interactions can be "jammed." now, along comes =A0this ordinary guy--=
> a
>>>> Canadian at that-- =A0by the name of John Hutchinson who was playing
>>>> around with =A0RF and high voltage gear and discovers a new effect.
>>
>>>> Pity, that unlike Roentgen and Marconi, Hutchinson is a tinkerer more
>>>> than a good scientist or engineer sohe doesn't know what forces did
>>>> this or that, and subsequently has difficulty reproducing the effect.
>>>> He's also extremely commercialistic and is more concerned with what h=
> e
>>>> might make a profit off of than any contributions to science; a bad
>>>> combination. But th siscovery is out there: all =A0it takes is somebo=
> dy
>>>> witha will and the money to exploit the Hutchinson effect to get a
>>>> viable inertialess drive. Navigation might be a bitch at multiples of
>>>> light speed, but hey, one step at a time... =A0;-)
>>
>>> The guy is a crackpot and a fool. His website is a few sandwiches
>>> short of a picnic basket.
>>
>> It doesn't matter if he has the IQ of a brick, he did what no one else
>> has done; he discovered an entirely new EM effect that =A0if properly
>> harnessed, could change the world and give us star travel without all
>> the Einsteinian silliness. But as usual, the scientific community has
>> its head up its ass and soesn't see what's happening-- won't until
>> some engineer or experimenter makes a shit-load of money, then
>> everyone will be saying "Oh, I knew it would work all along. I had th
>> same idea way back..." This is the tragic history of science &
>> technology.
>
> He has discovered NOTHING! His claims are bogus! Wanna buy an ORGONE
> accumalator?
Not quite true. He's "discovered" a new way to probably con some people
out of money (hopefully not tax payer money though).
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| Re: Real warp drive!? [message #21132 is a reply to message #21082] |
Tue, 30 October 2012 00:40 |
Ron
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>>> It doesn't matter if he has the IQ of a brick, he did what no one else
>>> has done; he discovered an entirely new EM effect that =A0if properly
>>> harnessed, could change the world and give us star travel without all
>>> the Einsteinian silliness. But as usual, the scientific community has
>>> its head up its ass and soesn't see what's happening-- won't until
>>> some engineer or experimenter makes a shit-load of money, then
>>> everyone will be saying "Oh, I knew it would work all along. I had th
>>> same idea way back..." This is the tragic history of science &
>>> technology.
>
>> He has discovered NOTHING! His claims are bogus! Wanna buy an ORGONE
>> accumalator?
>
> Not quite true. He's "discovered" a new way to probably con some people
> out of money (hopefully not tax payer money though).-
Gee, boys and girls; it wouldn't be science without the side order of
pettiness.
Ron
____________________
“A scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and
making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually
die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.”
–– Max Planck ––
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