| My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers) [message #330261] |
Mon, 22 August 2016 04:58  |
TVirkkala
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It's been years since I've been active on these lists. I come out of
lurkage a bit confused, largely because, well, I've forgotten some
things I used to know about my Macs.
I've had two PowerMac G5s for some time, a 9,1 and an 11,2 — that is,
a Late 2004 1.8GHz and a final year model G5, as in the signature at
bottom.
The slower G5 occasionally starts up with system error - non-GUI
command line stuff. It has asked me, in recent months, to ask if I
really wanted to start the computer, etc. I type in what it says to,
and the thing comes up again.
I assume the hard drive is going down, corrupting the system. Does
this seem reasonable?
If the hard drive is no good, then this is what I thought I'd do:
a. Get a new hard drive for the 2x2.3 device. Install.
b. Clone my main drive onto the new drive. Shut down.
c. Take out the newly cloned drive and place it in the 1.8Ghz
PowerMac, make it the main drive.
d. Get another new hard drive. A much bigger hard drive. Clone my
current drive and then use the new, larger drive as the primary drive.
Does this sound reasonable?
I thought I needed special sleds for these things. But the 1.8Ghz
didn't seem to need sleds at all, but used hard drive with screws on
the bottom. Are the hard drive hardware the same between the two
computers?
Sorry this is so basic, but I haven't been playing with the innards of
Macs for nearly a decade.
I'm writing on the G5x2.3GHz PowerMac right now. I've been using it
for the last few weeks. It seems to be working well, though Web
browsing is now difficult, and the best browser seems to be TenFourFox.
I stopped using it regularly when Avid M-Powered-8 ceased to write
("bounce") my MIDI files to disc. I hope to resurrect this program
this month, and fix the error. I cannot afford to by LogicPro for my
MacPro because I'm spending all my money on repairing my iPads this
month.
Sorry for the long story.
I do love my faster PowerMac. It has 13GB of RAM, and seems to work
most operations just fine. It handles my Photoshop needs very well —
though I'm afraid to try editing movies on it. Previous movie editing
on G5s seems slow and "problematic" to me.
Timo V
PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
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| Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers) [message #330269 is a reply to message #330261] |
Mon, 22 August 2016 23:45  |
DLC
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Hi Timo,
Welcome back. Hopefully it is your hard drive and not the SATA controller
chip on the motherboard. The drive is certainly a strong consideration, and
of course the cheaper of the two to troubleshoot.
You do not need railings or sleds for the HDs on a G5. You DO need four
convex standout screws that screw into the hard drive sides are are used as
guides for the drive to slide down the visible channels in the HD bay sides
- top drive goes in first, starting in the middle channel (it corrects
itself as the drive is inserted, ending in the top channel), then the
second drive goes straight into the bottom third channel.
The screws are plastic, and of course, being Apple, unique in design-the
heads are rounded and polished - regular HD screws will catch on the glides.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Dana
(Collins - Ft. Wayne, IN)
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:58 AM, TVirkkala <multimax@wirkman.com> wrote:
> It's been years since I've been active on these lists. I come out of
> lurkage a bit confused, largely because, well, I've forgotten some things I
> used to know about my Macs.
>
> I've had two PowerMac G5s for some time, a 9,1 and an 11,2 — that is, a
> Late 2004 1.8GHz and a final year model G5, as in the signature at bottom.
>
> The slower G5 occasionally starts up with system error - non-GUI command
> line stuff. It has asked me, in recent months, to ask if I really wanted to
> start the computer, etc. I type in what it says to, and the thing comes up
> again.
>
> I assume the hard drive is going down, corrupting the system. Does this
> seem reasonable?
>
> If the hard drive is no good, then this is what I thought I'd do:
>
> a. Get a new hard drive for the 2x2.3 device. Install.
> b. Clone my main drive onto the new drive. Shut down.
> c. Take out the newly cloned drive and place it in the 1.8Ghz PowerMac,
> make it the main drive.
> d. Get another new hard drive. A much bigger hard drive. Clone my current
> drive and then use the new, larger drive as the primary drive.
>
> Does this sound reasonable?
>
> I thought I needed special sleds for these things. But the 1.8Ghz didn't
> seem to need sleds at all, but used hard drive with screws on the bottom.
> Are the hard drive hardware the same between the two computers?
>
> Sorry this is so basic, but I haven't been playing with the innards of
> Macs for nearly a decade.
>
> I'm writing on the G5x2.3GHz PowerMac right now. I've been using it for
> the last few weeks. It seems to be working well, though Web browsing is now
> difficult, and the best browser seems to be TenFourFox.
>
> I stopped using it regularly when Avid M-Powered-8 ceased to write
> ("bounce") my MIDI files to disc. I hope to resurrect this program this
> month, and fix the error. I cannot afford to by LogicPro for my MacPro
> because I'm spending all my money on repairing my iPads this month.
>
> Sorry for the long story.
>
> I do love my faster PowerMac. It has 13GB of RAM, and seems to work most
> operations just fine. It handles my Photoshop needs very well — though I'm
> afraid to try editing movies on it. Previous movie editing on G5s seems
> slow and "problematic" to me.
>
> Timo V
> PowerPC G5x2.3GHz
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| Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers) [message #330273 is a reply to message #330269] |
Thu, 25 August 2016 16:54 |
TVirkkala
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Thanks, Dana, re:
> You do not need railings or sleds for the HDs on a G5. You DO need
> four convex standout screws that screw into the hard drive sides are
> are used as guides for the drive to slide down the visible channels
> in the HD bay sides - top drive goes in first, starting in the
> middle channel (it corrects itself as the drive is inserted, ending
> in the top channel), then the second drive goes straight into the
> bottom third channel.
> The screws are plastic, and of course, being Apple, unique in design-
> the heads are rounded and polished - regular HD screws will catch on
> the glides.
I probably have them in one of my little parts bins hanging around the
office, stuck in the corners....
t
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| Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers) [message #330277 is a reply to message #330273] |
Thu, 25 August 2016 17:43 |
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IIRC, I used four 6-32 UNC metal round head screws to add a second HD to my G5 a few years ago. It was not a perfect fit and it may have been more difficult to install the drive than it would with the standard Apple scews but it worked for me. I think the trick was not to screw them in all the way and leave a little space for the head to catch the guides. But that was a long time ago so my memory is a bit fuzzy.
However, I would not recommend shipping the G5 with the HD installed with these screws. --glen
From: TVirkkala <multimax@wirkman.com>
To: LEM G-List <g3-5-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: My G5 problems (resurrecting two PowerMac G5 computers)
Thanks, Dana, re:
> You do not need railings or sleds for the HDs on a G5. You DO need
> four convex standout screws that screw into the hard drive sides are
> are used as guides for the drive to slide down the visible channels
> in the HD bay sides - top drive goes in first, starting in the
> middle channel (it corrects itself as the drive is inserted, ending
> in the top channel), then the second drive goes straight into the
> bottom third channel.
> The screws are plastic, and of course, being Apple, unique in design-
> the heads are rounded and polished - regular HD screws will catch on
> the glides.
I probably have them in one of my little parts bins hanging around the
office, stuck in the corners....
t
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