| Re: G4 questions [message #330158] |
Wed, 29 June 2016 14:47  |
Kris Tilford
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On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:08 AM, LochDhueDude <cmichaelleed@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Have an iBook G4 with a corrupted Leopard install.
It won’t Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup? If you can Safe Boot, simply download and reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update, then you should be good…remember, if you’re short on HD space, you might want to use something like an older version of Monolingual to strip out the Intel code from Leopard since Leopard is bloated with both Intel & PPC code and is twice as big as necessary.
> I wanted to install Tiger and Classic Mode, or OS9 if possible. My 4 CD set Tiger intaller wouldn't boot. A number of other DVD Tiger installers wouldn't boot.
The 4 CD set often fails because of scratched CDs, but you don’t need all the CDs, you ONLY need CD #1, the first CD to boot. If you can get CD #1 to boot, then DESELECT all the OPTIONS so that it’s only installing the base system software, then you can later navigate to any additional software you need on the other CDs and install that by double-clicking the installer packages, or better yet, just download the current versions from the internet. IF you get CD#1 to boot and install Tiger, you will have access to Software Update via internet, but I don’t think Safari is installed, so you’ll need to manually install either Safari from CD#2, or download any other browser beforehand and transfer it manually with a USB or local network connection.
> Tried every OS9 installer I could find including last year's patched 'OS9.2.2 for G4s including unsupported machines'. Nothing would boot except OS X Server 10.4...so I ran the intaller, which worked but I can't find the product key...
> Any suggestions Bruce, et. al.?
Did you try the Netboot 9.2.2 free OS X installer package that you can download from Apple?
<https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US>>
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| Re: G4 questions [message #330160 is a reply to message #330158] |
Wed, 29 June 2016 22:50  |
W.Adrian D'Alessio
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This may sound dumb. I will risk it.
Do these machines have a CUDA switch?
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On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:08 AM, LochDhueDude <cmichaelleed@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Have an iBook G4 with a corrupted Leopard install.
>
>
> It won’t Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup? If you can Safe
> Boot, simply download and reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update, then you
> should be good…remember, if you’re short on HD space, you might want to use
> something like an older version of Monolingual to strip out the Intel code
> from Leopard since Leopard is bloated with both Intel & PPC code and is
> twice as big as necessary.
>
> I wanted to install Tiger and Classic Mode, or OS9 if possible. My 4 CD
> set Tiger intaller wouldn't boot. A number of other DVD Tiger installers
> wouldn't boot.
>
>
> The 4 CD set often fails because of scratched CDs, but you don’t need all
> the CDs, you ONLY need CD #1, the first CD to boot. If you can get CD #1 to
> boot, then DESELECT all the OPTIONS so that it’s only installing the base
> system software, then you can later navigate to any additional software you
> need on the other CDs and install that by double-clicking the installer
> packages, or better yet, just download the current versions from the
> internet. IF you get CD#1 to boot and install Tiger, you will have access
> to Software Update via internet, but I don’t think Safari is installed, so
> you’ll need to manually install either Safari from CD#2, or download any
> other browser beforehand and transfer it manually with a USB or local
> network connection.
>
> Tried every OS9 installer I could find including last year's patched
> 'OS9.2.2 for G4s including unsupported machines'. Nothing would boot except
> OS X Server 10.4...so I ran the intaller, which worked but I can't find the
> product key...
> Any suggestions Bruce, et. al.?
>
>
> Did you try the Netboot 9.2.2 free OS X installer package that you can
> download from Apple?
> <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US>
>
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| Re: G4 questions [message #330162 is a reply to message #330160] |
Thu, 30 June 2016 11:47 |
Bruce Johnson
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Power management is entirely different in laptops versus desktops, which have the CUDA switch.
Power Management issues tend to be on the order of ‘Won’t start up at all’; which may be the issue here, so it’s a good thought!
< https://discussions.apple.com/thread/757129?start=0&tsta rt=0>
On Jun 29, 2016, at 7:50 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstringer@gmail.com<mailto:fluxstringer@gmail.com>> wrote:
This may sound dumb. I will risk it.
Do these machines have a CUDA switch?
Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
fluxstringer@gmail.com<mailto:fluxstringer@gmail.com>
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer
http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net<mailto:ktilford1@cox.net>> wrote:
On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:08 AM, LochDhueDude <cmichaelleed@gmail.com<mailto:cmichaelleed@gmail.com>> wrote:
Have an iBook G4 with a corrupted Leopard install.
It won’t Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup? If you can Safe Boot, simply download and reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update, then you should be good…remember, if you’re short on HD space, you might want to use something like an older version of Monolingual to strip out the Intel code from Leopard since Leopard is bloated with both Intel & PPC code and is twice as big as necessary.
I wanted to install Tiger and Classic Mode, or OS9 if possible. My 4 CD set Tiger intaller wouldn't boot. A number of other DVD Tiger installers wouldn't boot.
The 4 CD set often fails because of scratched CDs, but you don’t need all the CDs, you ONLY need CD #1, the first CD to boot. If you can get CD #1 to boot, then DESELECT all the OPTIONS so that it’s only installing the base system software, then you can later navigate to any additional software you need on the other CDs and install that by double-clicking the installer packages, or better yet, just download the current versions from the internet. IF you get CD#1 to boot and install Tiger, you will have access to Software Update via internet, but I don’t think Safari is installed, so you’ll need to manually install either Safari from CD#2, or download any other browser beforehand and transfer it manually with a USB or local network connection.
Tried every OS9 installer I could find including last year's patched 'OS9.2.2 for G4s including unsupported machines'. Nothing would boot except OS X Server 10.4...so I ran the intaller, which worked but I can't find the product key...
Any suggestions Bruce, et. al.?
Did you try the Netboot 9.2.2 free OS X installer package that you can download from Apple?
<https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US>
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| Re: G4 questions [message #330164 is a reply to message #330162] |
Thu, 30 June 2016 15:43 |
W.Adrian D'Alessio
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I was thinking in terms of hardware config non volatile system settings.
Maybe preventing the drive changes/OS changes
Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Bruce Johnson <
johnson@pharmacy.arizona.edu> wrote:
> Power management is entirely different in laptops versus desktops, which
> have the CUDA switch.
>
> Power Management issues tend to be on the order of ‘Won’t start up at
> all’; which may be the issue here, so it’s a good thought!
>
> < https://discussions.apple.com/thread/757129?start=0&tsta rt=0>
>
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2016, at 7:50 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstringer@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This may sound dumb. I will risk it.
>
> Do these machines have a CUDA switch?
>
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
> fluxstringer@gmail.com
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
> http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
> https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Kris Tilford <ktilford1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 29, 2016, at 9:08 AM, LochDhueDude <cmichaelleed@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Have an iBook G4 with a corrupted Leopard install.
>>
>>
>> It won’t Safe Boot by holding the Shift key at startup? If you can Safe
>> Boot, simply download and reinstall the 10.5.8 Combo Update, then you
>> should be good…remember, if you’re short on HD space, you might want to use
>> something like an older version of Monolingual to strip out the Intel code
>> from Leopard since Leopard is bloated with both Intel & PPC code and is
>> twice as big as necessary.
>>
>> I wanted to install Tiger and Classic Mode, or OS9 if possible. My 4 CD
>> set Tiger intaller wouldn't boot. A number of other DVD Tiger installers
>> wouldn't boot.
>>
>>
>> The 4 CD set often fails because of scratched CDs, but you don’t need all
>> the CDs, you ONLY need CD #1, the first CD to boot. If you can get CD #1 to
>> boot, then DESELECT all the OPTIONS so that it’s only installing the base
>> system software, then you can later navigate to any additional software you
>> need on the other CDs and install that by double-clicking the installer
>> packages, or better yet, just download the current versions from the
>> internet. IF you get CD#1 to boot and install Tiger, you will have access
>> to Software Update via internet, but I don’t think Safari is installed, so
>> you’ll need to manually install either Safari from CD#2, or download any
>> other browser beforehand and transfer it manually with a USB or local
>> network connection.
>>
>> Tried every OS9 installer I could find including last year's patched
>> 'OS9.2.2 for G4s including unsupported machines'. Nothing would boot except
>> OS X Server 10.4...so I ran the intaller, which worked but I can't find the
>> product key...
>> Any suggestions Bruce, et. al.?
>>
>>
>> Did you try the Netboot 9.2.2 free OS X installer package that you can
>> download from Apple?
>> <https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1192?locale=en_US>
>>
>>
>>
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| Re: G4 questions [message #330166 is a reply to message #330164] |
Thu, 30 June 2016 17:57 |
Bruce Johnson
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On Jun 30, 2016, at 12:43 PM, W.Adrian D'Alessio <fluxstringer@gmail.com<mailto:fluxstringer@gmail.com>> wrote:
I was thinking in terms of hardware config non volatile system settings. Maybe preventing the drive changes/OS changes
Since he was able to install Server 10.4, I think Kris might be on the right track, it’s flaky, scratched and/or dirty dvd’s or cd's.
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