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General news; Fukashima and Oishinbo [message #323537] Sat, 23 July 2016 16:01 Go to next message
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Hi Readers and Typers,

Needed to find a reference to Oishinbo and found this little news item.
The author of Oishinbo did a piece on Fukashima that has excited
no little
controversy. Some accuse him of scare-mongering and others of good
reporting.

< http://kotaku.com/japanese-manga-stirs-up-fukushima-nuclear- controversy-1573381718>

Followups are set to manga and anime newsgroups so edit them if you
are concerned.

bliss
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Re: General news; Fukashima and Oishinbo [message #323654 is a reply to message #323537] Sun, 24 July 2016 22:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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"Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:nn0ets$jkg$1@dont-email.me...

Hi Readers and Typers,

Needed to find a reference to Oishinbo and found this little news item.
The author of Oishinbo did a piece on Fukashima that has excited
no little
controversy. Some accuse him of scare-mongering and others of good
reporting.

< http://kotaku.com/japanese-manga-stirs-up-fukushima-nuclear- controversy-1573381718>

Followups are set to manga and anime newsgroups so edit them if you
are concerned.

bliss

>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oishinbo is actually very anti-American and many episodes revolve around
Japan being force to buy beef while Mad Cow Disease was going around in
America. (I bet they don't translate those episodes into English.) The
author is also an adamant supporter of eating whales.

I don't like the title currently because it's almost strictly based on
interviews and starring live persons. It just doesn't feel very original
and tedious to read.


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Re: General news; Fukashima and Oishinbo [message #323658 is a reply to message #323654] Mon, 25 July 2016 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 07/24/2016 06:55 PM, Kenneth M. Lin wrote:
>
>
> "Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:nn0ets$jkg$1@dont-email.me...
>
> Hi Readers and Typers,
>
> Needed to find a reference to Oishinbo and found this little news item.
> The author of Oishinbo did a piece on Fukashima that has excited
> no little
> controversy. Some accuse him of scare-mongering and others of good
> reporting.
>
> < http://kotaku.com/japanese-manga-stirs-up-fukushima-nuclear- controversy-1573381718>
>
>
> Followups are set to manga and anime newsgroups so edit them if you
> are concerned.
>
> bliss
>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Oishinbo is actually very anti-American and many episodes revolve around
> Japan being force to buy beef while Mad Cow Disease was going around in
> America. (I bet they don't translate those episodes into English.) The
> author is also an adamant supporter of eating whales.
>
> I don't like the title currently because it's almost strictly based on
> interviews and starring live persons. It just doesn't feel very
> original and tedious to read.


It can get tedious but more than that I hate the way it was
published in North America, not paying attention to the story of the
food reviewer and his girl friend. On the other hand if I wanted to
find out what was involved in producing Japanese food I would find
in invaluable.
The parts about Mad Cow disease and the US forcing(?) Japan
to buy beef are not too visible but I think I remember one remark in
the translation. I was not aware that it was using living persons
interviewed to comment on the food and preparation.
I am not disconcerted by people who are anti-American as
most Americans are unwilling to take responsibility for provoking
the Japanese to attack.

The American First political movement of the 1930s, a
pacifistic group that wanted to avoid the WW II in Europe and
which resisted any intervention in Asia, may have given the
impression that we were a nation unwilling to defend ourselves
or others. In the meantime we had enacted laws to exclude
immigrants from Asia and particularly Japan and China then
we put an embargo on all sorts of goods including oil and
steel reaching Japan. We had laws keeping our prior immigrants
from participating fully in civil society.

You see what we did to Japanese and Japanese-American citizens living
on the West Coast after Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. I was 4 years
old at the time. I remember the propaganda that come out
in the 1940s about the Japanese. I remember the quick turnaround
of the propaganda after the beginning of the Korean War as well.
I found it confusing but that is part of the history of the
20th Century.

I may have digressed, anyone worried?
Have you read Barefoot Gen?
How about the 4 volumes of Showa manga? Even Onward to our Noble Deaths?
The Japanese were not at the time a free people but subjects
of the Emperor (promoted as a descendant of the Sun Goddess) but
actually a tool of plutocrats and militarists.

bliss

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Re: General news; Fukashima and Oishinbo [message #323659 is a reply to message #323658] Mon, 25 July 2016 02:11 Go to previous message
Kenneth M. Lin is currently offline  Kenneth M. Lin
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"Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:nn42kj$rss$1@dont-email.me...

On 07/24/2016 06:55 PM, Kenneth M. Lin wrote:
>
>
> "Bobbie Sellers" wrote in message news:nn0ets$jkg$1@dont-email.me...
>
> Hi Readers and Typers,
>
> Needed to find a reference to Oishinbo and found this little news
> item.
> The author of Oishinbo did a piece on Fukashima that has excited
> no little
> controversy. Some accuse him of scare-mongering and others of good
> reporting.
>
> < http://kotaku.com/japanese-manga-stirs-up-fukushima-nuclear- controversy-1573381718>
>
>
> Followups are set to manga and anime newsgroups so edit them if you
> are concerned.
>
> bliss
>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> Oishinbo is actually very anti-American and many episodes revolve around
> Japan being force to buy beef while Mad Cow Disease was going around in
> America. (I bet they don't translate those episodes into English.) The
> author is also an adamant supporter of eating whales.
>
> I don't like the title currently because it's almost strictly based on
> interviews and starring live persons. It just doesn't feel very
> original and tedious to read.


It can get tedious but more than that I hate the way it was
published in North America, not paying attention to the story of the
food reviewer and his girl friend. On the other hand if I wanted to
find out what was involved in producing Japanese food I would find
in invaluable.
The parts about Mad Cow disease and the US forcing(?) Japan
to buy beef are not too visible but I think I remember one remark in
the translation. I was not aware that it was using living persons
interviewed to comment on the food and preparation.
I am not disconcerted by people who are anti-American as
most Americans are unwilling to take responsibility for provoking
the Japanese to attack.

The American First political movement of the 1930s, a
pacifistic group that wanted to avoid the WW II in Europe and
which resisted any intervention in Asia, may have given the
impression that we were a nation unwilling to defend ourselves
or others. In the meantime we had enacted laws to exclude
immigrants from Asia and particularly Japan and China then
we put an embargo on all sorts of goods including oil and
steel reaching Japan. We had laws keeping our prior immigrants
from participating fully in civil society.

You see what we did to Japanese and Japanese-American citizens living
on the West Coast after Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. I was 4 years
old at the time. I remember the propaganda that come out
in the 1940s about the Japanese. I remember the quick turnaround
of the propaganda after the beginning of the Korean War as well.
I found it confusing but that is part of the history of the
20th Century.

I may have digressed, anyone worried?
Have you read Barefoot Gen?
How about the 4 volumes of Showa manga? Even Onward to our Noble Deaths?
The Japanese were not at the time a free people but subjects
of the Emperor (promoted as a descendant of the Sun Goddess) but
actually a tool of plutocrats and militarists.

bliss

>>>> >>>>>>>>>

I may be incorrect but I believe the writer of Oishinbo lives in Australia
and only goes back to Japan for research.

The title appears to be visiting each prefecture and explaining how their
food and culture influence each other. And this is done all the while
there's a competition between the report and his estranged father so it must
be written in such a way that one party must lose each time. While this is
highly educational, I enjoyed the earlier volumes where the author was
coming up with smaller but original stories because it felt more organic.
The most recent stories use too much photo references and characters are
stiff and are there just to prop up the word balloons.

I grew up in three different countries and really don't feel as any of them
dominated my point of view. I do know that I tend to view things very
differently from my peers but I am truly grateful that I never go along with
something simply because it's a popular opinion.

Ken

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