| Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14176] |
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I've had a bit of spare time recently, so, after watching Seasons three
to five of Stargate:SG1, I've started re-watching Season one of StarTrek!
So far, Four disks, sixteen episodes, including:-
1. The Enemy With-in, where a Transporter malfunction results in two
Capt.. Kirk's, one good, one bad and the bad one sexually assaults
Yeoman Rand before running off.
2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down to a
Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
3. The Conscience of the King, where the touring Shakspearian troup give
a performance and Capt. Kirk chats up the nineteen year old daughter of
Kados the Executioner. ( *Nineteen year old* !! Leach!!)
Sixteen Eps, with Stardates ranging through to the third year of the
five year mission, at least three of the Eps which portray Kirk as a
Heterosexual Hero.
When do your K/S/Homosexual tendencies start??
(On to disk five, tomorrow!!)
Daniel
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14177 is a reply to message #14176] |
Mon, 06 August 2012 11:59  |
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On 8/6/2012 9:02 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> I've had a bit of spare time recently, so, after watching Seasons three
> to five of Stargate:SG1, I've started re-watching Season one of StarTrek!
>
> So far, Four disks, sixteen episodes, including:-
>
> 1. The Enemy With-in, where a Transporter malfunction results in two
> Capt.. Kirk's, one good, one bad and the bad one sexually assaults
> Yeoman Rand before running off.
>
> 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
> years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
> words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down to a
> Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
> happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
>
> 3. The Conscience of the King, where the touring Shakspearian troup
> give a performance and Capt. Kirk chats up the nineteen year old
> daughter of Kados the Executioner. ( *Nineteen year old* !! Leach!!)
>
> Sixteen Eps, with Stardates ranging through to the third year of the
> five year mission, at least three of the Eps which portray Kirk as a
> Heterosexual Hero.
>
> When do your K/S/Homosexual tendencies start??
In the pilot episode.
Interesting that you mention those three episodes particularly.
RE: The Enemy Within...
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/enemywithin.htm
About Rand:
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/jrand.htm
I did do a recap on Dagger Of The Mind, if you are interested:
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/dagger.htm
I highlighted this weird scene
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/noelthing.html
Oh, and about Dr. Noel?
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/drnoel.htm
Speaking of Conscience Of The King:
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/king.htm
And of Lenore Karidian:
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/lkaridian.htm
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| Another Day, Another DVD, Another Episode, Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14181 is a reply to message #14176] |
Tue, 07 August 2012 07:57 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> I've had a bit of spare time recently, so, after watching Seasons three
> to five of Stargate:SG1, I've started re-watching Season one of StarTrek!
>
> So far, Four disks, sixteen episodes, including:-
>
> 1. The Enemy With-in, where a Transporter malfunction results in two
> Capt.. Kirk's, one good, one bad and the bad one sexually assaults
> Yeoman Rand before running off.
>
> 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
> years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
> words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down to a
> Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
> happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
>
> 3. The Conscience of the King, where the touring Shakspearian troup
> give a performance and Capt. Kirk chats up the nineteen year old
> daughter of Kados the Executioner. ( *Nineteen year old* !! Leach!!)
>
> Sixteen Eps, with Stardates ranging through to the third year of the
> five year mission, at least three of the Eps which portray Kirk as a
> Heterosexual Hero.
>
> When do your K/S/Homosexual tendencies start??
>
> (On to disk five, tomorrow!!)
>
> Daniel
4. Court Marshall, Kirk is court marshalled for having posted the Sensor
Pod prior to going Condition Red, resulting in the death of Lt Finney,
who's daughter Kirk is the God-Father of. Kirk initially wants a former
girlfriend/lover, Areel Shaw, as his Defence Attorney, but she is
unavailable as she is the Prosecuting Attorney, so Kirk uses Samuel T
Cogley. After locating Lt Finney, Kirk is fairwelling Shaw when she asks
(along the lines of) "Would it seriously effect Ships crew if lowly Lt
were to kiss Ships Commander??", to which Kirk replies (along the lines
of) "Let's see!!"
On to S1D6!!
Daniel
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14182 is a reply to message #14176] |
Tue, 07 August 2012 11:53 |
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On 8/6/2012 9:02 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
> years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
> words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down to a
> Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
> happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
You really must watch that episode again. The part where Noel describes
what happened after the Xmas party is clearly her fantasy only.
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14183 is a reply to message #14182] |
Wed, 08 August 2012 07:36 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 8/6/2012 9:02 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
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>> 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
>> years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
>> words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down to a
>> Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
>> happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
>
> You really must watch that episode again. The part where Noel describes
> what happened after the Xmas party is clearly her fantasy only.
Hence my "and of what she had wanted to happen!"!!
Daniel
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14184 is a reply to message #14183] |
Wed, 08 August 2012 13:16 |
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On 8/8/2012 7:36 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> On 8/6/2012 9:02 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>>
>>> 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
>>> years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
>>> words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down to a
>>> Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
>>> happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
>>
>> You really must watch that episode again. The part where Noel describes
>> what happened after the Xmas party is clearly her fantasy only.
>
> Hence my "and of what she had wanted to happen!"!!
Look, it's clearly established from her words and actions that SHE is
heterosexual, and has the hots for Jim Kirk. That is the only pure
heterosexuality that is on display in that episode. The only ardor that
Jim expresses toward her is explicitly false.
Are there any other episodes featuring "heterosexual Kirk" that you
wished to discuss? Because I am willing.
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| Re: Another Day, Another DVD, Another Episode, Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14185 is a reply to message #14181] |
Wed, 08 August 2012 21:34 |
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On 8/7/2012 7:57 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>
> 4. Court Marshall, Kirk is court marshalled for having posted the
> Sensor Pod prior to going Condition Red, resulting in the death of Lt
> Finney, who's daughter Kirk is the God-Father of.
Yeah, Finney named his daughter after Kirk. That's not Gay. But him
turning around and trying to ruin Kirk later for nothing much kind of is.
Kirk initially wants a
> former girlfriend/lover, Areel Shaw, as his Defence Attorney,
So? Lot of Gay men have former girlfriends.
but she is
> unavailable as she is the Prosecuting Attorney, so Kirk uses Samuel T
> Cogley. After locating Lt Finney, Kirk is fairwelling Shaw when she asks
> (along the lines of) "Would it seriously effect Ships crew if lowly Lt
> were to kiss Ships Commander??", to which Kirk replies (along the lines
> of) "Let's see!!"
Again, it's the woman offering a kiss, not Kirk coming after her for
one. This is actually the norm for Kirk.
FWIW, I have personally kissed hundreds of Gay men. Hugged and kissed
'em, danced with them, talked with them, walked with them. NONE of that
made any of them any less Gay. Simply tolerating and even enjoying the
company of females doesn't make them less Gay.
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| Re: Another Day, Another DVD, Another Episode, Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14188 is a reply to message #14185] |
Thu, 09 August 2012 07:08 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 8/7/2012 7:57 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
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>> 4. Court Marshall, Kirk is court marshalled for having posted the
>> Sensor Pod prior to going Condition Red, resulting in the death of Lt
>> Finney, who's daughter Kirk is the God-Father of.
>
> Yeah, Finney named his daughter after Kirk. That's not Gay.
Did I say it was Gay??
(Yes, you're right, daughter named after Kirk, not Kirk as God-Father!!)
> But him
> turning around and trying to ruin Kirk later for nothing much kind of is.
Sorry?? It's only Gay people that might try to ruin other people??
You've got to be kidding me!
>
> Kirk initially wants a
>> former girlfriend/lover, Areel Shaw, as his Defence Attorney,
>
> So? Lot of Gay men have former girlfriends.
Yes, So?? Some might say that as Gay men are not "after" women, some
women think they are "safer" hanging around "Gays"!!
>
> but she is
>> unavailable as she is the Prosecuting Attorney, so Kirk uses Samuel T
>> Cogley. After locating Lt Finney, Kirk is fairwelling Shaw when she asks
>> (along the lines of) "Would it seriously effect Ships crew if lowly Lt
>> were to kiss Ships Commander??", to which Kirk replies (along the lines
>> of) "Let's see!!"
>
> Again, it's the woman offering a kiss, not Kirk coming after her for
> one. This is actually the norm for Kirk.
>
> FWIW, I have personally kissed hundreds of Gay men. Hugged and kissed
> 'em, danced with them, talked with them, walked with them. NONE of that
> made any of them any less Gay. Simply tolerating and even enjoying the
> company of females doesn't make them less Gay.
>
Yes, but just because you have done all this with any man *DOESN'T* mean
that any guy *IS* gay!!
Have I been kissed by a Gay man?? Let me think, have I been kissed by
*ANY* man?? My Father, yes, but I don't think this counts, Ummm ..........
Daniel
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14189 is a reply to message #14184] |
Thu, 09 August 2012 07:16 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 8/8/2012 7:36 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>> On 8/6/2012 9:02 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
>>>> years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
>>>> words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down
>>>> to a
>>>> Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
>>>> happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
>>>
>>> You really must watch that episode again. The part where Noel describes
>>> what happened after the Xmas party is clearly her fantasy only.
>>
>> Hence my "and of what she had wanted to happen!"!!
>
> Look, it's clearly established from her words and actions that SHE is
> heterosexual, and has the hots for Jim Kirk. That is the only pure
> heterosexuality that is on display in that episode. The only ardor that
> Jim expresses toward her is explicitly false.
>
No, check out the start of the Ep, where Kirk indicates to Spock, that
he, Kirk, had a bit of a go at her at the party!!
> Are there any other episodes featuring "heterosexual Kirk" that you
> wished to discuss? Because I am willing.
>
Almost finished S1D6 and no more indications of "heterosexual Kirk", and
*NO* indications what so ever of "homosexual Kirk"!!
Getting near to end of series one, so will be switching back to a couple
of seasons of Stargate:SG1, before coming back to Series Two to look for
more instantses of "heterosexual Kirk/homosexual Kirk"!!
Daniel
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14190 is a reply to message #14189] |
Thu, 09 August 2012 08:27 |
Daniel47@teranews.com
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Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> On 8/8/2012 7:36 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>>> On 8/6/2012 9:02 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > 2. Dagger of the Mind, where Capt. Kirk discusses, with Spock, last
>>>> > years Christmas Party where he (Kirk) had "messed arround with" (my
>>>> > words) a female head-shrink and then these two are transported down
>>>> > to a
>>>> > Mental Asylum/Prison, and the female doctor gives details of what
>>>> > happened after the party....and of what she had wanted to happen!
>>>>
>>>> You really must watch that episode again. The part where Noel
>>>> describes
>>>> what happened after the Xmas party is clearly her fantasy only.
>>>
>>> Hence my "and of what she had wanted to happen!"!!
>>
>> Look, it's clearly established from her words and actions that SHE is
>> heterosexual, and has the hots for Jim Kirk. That is the only pure
>> heterosexuality that is on display in that episode. The only ardor that
>> Jim expresses toward her is explicitly false.
>>
>
> No, check out the start of the Ep, where Kirk indicates to Spock, that
> he, Kirk, had a bit of a go at her at the party!!
>
>> Are there any other episodes featuring "heterosexual Kirk" that you
>> wished to discuss? Because I am willing.
>>
>
> Almost finished S1D6 and no more indications of "heterosexual Kirk", and
> *NO* indications what so ever of "homosexual Kirk"!!
>
> Getting near to end of series one, so will be switching back to a couple
> of seasons of Stargate:SG1, before coming back to Series Two to look for
> more instantses of "heterosexual Kirk/homosexual Kirk"!!
>
> Daniel
>
Just watching "City on the Edge of Forever", and, in the "Preview" (Yes,
I even watch these before watching the Ep!!), Kirk has said to Spock "I
love her" referring to Edith Keeler, played by Joan Collins.
So, not Homosexual, but, at the minimum, "BI"!!
Daniel
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14191 is a reply to message #14189] |
Thu, 09 August 2012 12:49 |
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On 8/9/2012 7:16 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> On 8/8/2012 7:36 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>> Look, it's clearly established from her words and actions that SHE is
>> heterosexual, and has the hots for Jim Kirk. That is the only pure
>> heterosexuality that is on display in that episode. The only ardor that
>> Jim expresses toward her is explicitly false.
>>
>
> No, check out the start of the Ep, where Kirk indicates to Spock, that
> he, Kirk, had a bit of a go at her at the party!!
Wow. "A BIT OF A GO"? A Bit Of A GO, you say.
OK, once again I draw your attention to this scene.
http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/noelthing.html
Please actually click the link and actually look at and think about what
is displayed there. OK?
If I get no indication that you have done so next time this subject is
raised, I will officially wash my hands of you, completely.
Please note that all of the evidence there we have concerning Kirk and
Noel is entirely contained within the episode. Everything we need to
know about Noel is in that one episode.
Now, let's see some evidence of some actual mental effort on your part.
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14192 is a reply to message #14190] |
Thu, 09 August 2012 12:55 |
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On 8/9/2012 8:27 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
> Just watching "City on the Edge of Forever", and, in the "Preview" (Yes,
> I even watch these before watching the Ep!!), Kirk has said to Spock "I
> love her" referring to Edith Keeler, played by Joan Collins.
>
> So, not Homosexual, but, at the minimum, "BI"!!
Interesting that he says it to Spock, but NEVER to her.
I don't know how many Gay and Bisexual people you know, but I have met
and socialized with tens of thousands of them. I have had, and have
hundreds of Gay and Bi friends and acquaintances.
I'm Bisexual, my husband's Bisexual, my best friend is a Lesbian...
As a matter of fact, it is perfectly normal and regular for a Bisexual
person with a Gay main partner to mention it to their partner when they
are struggling with an infatuation, Gay or "Straight".
Does Kirk seem in any way less "Gay" because he warns Spock that he has
developed feelings for her? Not to me, he doesn't.
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| Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14193 is a reply to message #14191] |
Fri, 10 August 2012 07:45 |
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ToolPackinMama wrote:
> On 8/9/2012 7:16 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>>> On 8/8/2012 7:36 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>
>>> Look, it's clearly established from her words and actions that SHE is
>>> heterosexual, and has the hots for Jim Kirk. That is the only pure
>>> heterosexuality that is on display in that episode. The only ardor that
>>> Jim expresses toward her is explicitly false.
>>>
>>
>> No, check out the start of the Ep, where Kirk indicates to Spock, that
>> he, Kirk, had a bit of a go at her at the party!!
>
> Wow. "A BIT OF A GO"? A Bit Of A GO, you say.
>
> OK, once again I draw your attention to this scene.
>
> http://allyourtrekarebelongto.us/noelthing.html
>
> Please actually click the link and actually look at and think about what
> is displayed there. OK?
>
> If I get no indication that you have done so next time this subject is
> raised, I will officially wash my hands of you, completely.
>
> Please note that all of the evidence there we have concerning Kirk and
> Noel is entirely contained within the episode. Everything we need to
> know about Noel is in that one episode.
>
> Now, let's see some evidence of some actual mental effort on your part.
>
Yes, TPM, I did click your link, and read through your superposition,
then I went and got the DVD out, again, to see if I could make out what
you have made out, from the actual Video.
Surprise, surprise, I could not see what you see in that scene (maybe
it's all in the EYE's Kirk's and Spock's!!), or in the rest of that
episode, or in the entire first series.
Heterosexual...maybe, Bisexual...maybe, Homosexual...NOT A HOPE!!!
Daniel
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| Re: Another Day, Another DVD, Another Episode, Re: Ping ToolPackinMama [message #14194 is a reply to message #14188] |
Mon, 13 August 2012 02:59 |
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 21:08:46 +1000, "Daniel47@teranews.com"
<dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au> wrote:
> ToolPackinMama wrote:
>> On 8/7/2012 7:57 AM, Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
>>>
>>> 4. Court Marshall, Kirk is court marshalled for having posted the
>>> Sensor Pod prior to going Condition Red, resulting in the death of Lt
>>> Finney, who's daughter Kirk is the God-Father of.
>>
>> Yeah, Finney named his daughter after Kirk. That's not Gay.
>
> Did I say it was Gay??
>
> (Yes, you're right, daughter named after Kirk, not Kirk as God-Father!!)
>
>> But him
>> turning around and trying to ruin Kirk later for nothing much kind of is.
Sounds like McCoy dropped the ball on his annual psych exam.
>
> Sorry?? It's only Gay people that might try to ruin other people??
> You've got to be kidding me!
As if there are only hostile homosexuals and not hostile
heterosexuals. It's the person and NOT their sexuality. That's why
rape is a hate crime for power and NOT for sex. That's just gravy.
>
>>
>> Kirk initially wants a
>>> former girlfriend/lover, Areel Shaw, as his Defence Attorney,
>>
>> So? Lot of Gay men have former girlfriends.
And lots of men who aren't gay have former girlfriends. So?
>
> Yes, So?? Some might say that as Gay men are not "after" women, some
> women think they are "safer" hanging around "Gays"!!
Face it. The ONLY women who feel "safe" hanging around gays a lot are
those brittle poodle girls who are threatened by hetero men because
they are in deep denial about their own value as a person unless it is
constantly validated in a sexual sense.
These women are exactly like a catwoman who hangs around a thousand
cats in their home because no one else can understand them.
>
>>
>> but she is
>>> unavailable as she is the Prosecuting Attorney, so Kirk uses Samuel T
>>> Cogley. After locating Lt Finney, Kirk is fairwelling Shaw when she asks
>>> (along the lines of) "Would it seriously effect Ships crew if lowly Lt
>>> were to kiss Ships Commander??", to which Kirk replies (along the lines
>>> of) "Let's see!!"
>>
>> Again, it's the woman offering a kiss, not Kirk coming after her for
>> one. This is actually the norm for Kirk.
I'd be damned if I'd kiss any former lover who wouldn't recuse
themselves from prosecuting me. And I'd be double damned if I'd
accept a kiss from them AFTER I won.
Well, I might tell them they could kiss my ASS.
>>
>> FWIW, I have personally kissed hundreds of Gay men. Hugged and kissed
>> 'em, danced with them, talked with them, walked with them. NONE of that
>> made any of them any less Gay. Simply tolerating and even enjoying the
>> company of females doesn't make them less Gay.
>>
>
> Yes, but just because you have done all this with any man *DOESN'T* mean
> that any guy *IS* gay!!
>
> Have I been kissed by a Gay man?? Let me think, have I been kissed by
> *ANY* man?? My Father, yes, but I don't think this counts, Ummm ..........
>
> Daniel
In Laura's imagination, ALL men are gay. ALL men. Including her
husband and family.
There is something profoundly deranged and sexually twisted about
anyone who insists that EVERYONE is the way THEY think they are.
As silly as saying all women are sluts. Or all men are mama's babies.
I bet if you looked back in Laura's past, you'd find she was raped or
abused. THAT is what twists these women's brains and makes them a
royal pain in the ass to be around.
They are desperately grasping for an explanation from a time when the
abuse didn't make sense. It would also explain why she is so into
Sadomachism and degrading men. As someone into S&M as a dominatrix,
THAT is how she tries to get her payback.
She is trying to get revenge against that person who raped her as a
child.
Normal, sexually mature people just don't harp on a fetish like she
does. They can enjoy a spectrum of sexuality.
I wonder if she orgasms watching two men have sex like a normal male
would get an erection watching two women having sex.
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