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My quicksilver...not so quick odyssey. [message #315610] Mon, 04 April 2016 13:01 Go to next message
Dani Kimbro is currently offline  Dani Kimbro
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Ok so I bought a gen 1 (non-2002) quicksilver for 10 bucks from a pawn
shop. When I got it, the graphics card was dying, and there were unknown
other issues keeping it from booting. I figured worst case I'd just use the
case to eventually build a hack into. I got it home hooked a vga monitor
into it and got to trouble shooting. The first thing I did was order a
graphics card from ebay. That came and fixed the graphical issues (sort
of...more on this later). But when I opened it up much to my surprise was a
super high end audio board for use with a recording studio, very sweet, and
an OWC 1.5 ghz processor chip. I saw this as an opportunity to install OS
10.5.8 on it. Which I attempted to do. The result is that I booted it from
my 10.5 DVD, and it came to a blue screen with a curser. I didn't know what
was causing it. So I attached it to an iMac via firewire and booted the
thing in target mode and used the iMac to install 10.5 on it. Then I tried
booting it again. Blue screen...I was starting to get annoyed. I booted
into safe boot, and IT WORKED! So it was a kext problem...I started trying
to figure out what KEXT was causing it. After weeks of testing it turned
out that the graphics card I bought, was not such a good idea. I bought a
radeon 9600 pulled from a g5 powermac. I figured it would work, but for
some reason the computer can't figure out what to do with it based on the
KEXTs ATI supplied. I tried updating to 10.5.8, updating the KEXTs via
ATI's software on the webs. Nothing. Still blue screen and curser when I
try to start it. I know its these KEXTs and how the graphics card is
responding to them based on the fact that if I remove them completely the
computer starts in normal mode just fine. So my first question: Anyone got
any ideas of things I can do to try and get the card fully functional
before I just blow money on a different model card?

Second question isn't really related: Anyone know of a Quad port PCI
ethernet card that works in these machines? I'm trying to create
essentially a NAS and would like really fast access to it so I'd like to do
better than a 2 port card.

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Re: My quicksilver...not so quick odyssey. [message #315611 is a reply to message #315610] Mon, 04 April 2016 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Len Gerstel is currently offline  Len Gerstel
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On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Dani Kimbro wrote:

> Ok so I bought a gen 1 (non-2002) quicksilver for 10 bucks from a
> pawn shop.
snip
> . I bought a radeon 9600 pulled from a g5 powermac. I figured it
> would work, but for some reason the computer can't figure out what
> to do with it based on the KEXTs ATI supplied. I tried updating to
> 10.5.8, updating the KEXTs via ATI's software on the webs. Nothing.
> Still blue screen and curser when I try to start it. I know its
> these KEXTs and how the graphics card is responding to them based
> on the fact that if I remove them completely the computer starts in
> normal mode just fine. So my first question: Anyone got any ideas
> of things I can do to try and get the card fully functional before
> I just blow money on a different model card?

I used one in a G4. Not a KEXT problem, a hardware issue. There are 2
pins you need to disable do to apple using them for ADC connectors.

Here are instructions:

http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11

Len

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Re: My quicksilver...not so quick odyssey. [message #315659 is a reply to message #315611] Mon, 04 April 2016 18:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
W.Adrian D'Alessio is currently offline  W.Adrian D'Alessio
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Go Backwards on the OS versions. Find one that is much less bloat.

A balanced system is better than one with bells and whistles that clog it
and make it troublesome.


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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Len Gerstel <lgerstel@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Dani Kimbro wrote:
>
> Ok so I bought a gen 1 (non-2002) quicksilver for 10 bucks from a pawn
>> shop.
>>
> snip
>
>> . I bought a radeon 9600 pulled from a g5 powermac. I figured it would
>> work, but for some reason the computer can't figure out what to do with it
>> based on the KEXTs ATI supplied. I tried updating to 10.5.8, updating the
>> KEXTs via ATI's software on the webs. Nothing. Still blue screen and curser
>> when I try to start it. I know its these KEXTs and how the graphics card is
>> responding to them based on the fact that if I remove them completely the
>> computer starts in normal mode just fine. So my first question: Anyone got
>> any ideas of things I can do to try and get the card fully functional
>> before I just blow money on a different model card?
>>
>
> I used one in a G4. Not a KEXT problem, a hardware issue. There are 2 pins
> you need to disable do to apple using them for ADC connectors.
>
> Here are instructions:
>
> http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11
>
> Len
>
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Re: My quicksilver...not so quick odyssey. [message #315683 is a reply to message #315611] Mon, 04 April 2016 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dani Kimbro is currently offline  Dani Kimbro
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On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 1:15:54 PM UTC-4, Len Gerstel wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Dani Kimbro wrote:
>
>> Ok so I bought a gen 1 (non-2002) quicksilver for 10 bucks from a
>> pawn shop.
> snip
>> . I bought a radeon 9600 pulled from a g5 powermac. I figured it
>> would work, but for some reason the computer can't figure out what
>> to do with it based on the KEXTs ATI supplied. I tried updating to
>> 10.5.8, updating the KEXTs via ATI's software on the webs. Nothing.
>> Still blue screen and curser when I try to start it. I know its
>> these KEXTs and how the graphics card is responding to them based
>> on the fact that if I remove them completely the computer starts in
>> normal mode just fine. So my first question: Anyone got any ideas
>> of things I can do to try and get the card fully functional before
>> I just blow money on a different model card?
>
> I used one in a G4. Not a KEXT problem, a hardware issue. There are 2
> pins you need to disable do to apple using them for ADC connectors.
>
> Here are instructions:
>
> http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11
>
> Len
>

Not hardware, software, with those two pins enabled, and the fact the card
itself doesn't have an ADC, I just get no boot when I try it without the
pins disabled. Needless to say the pins are disabled on mine.

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Re: My quicksilver...not so quick odyssey. [message #315684 is a reply to message #315659] Mon, 04 April 2016 19:07 Go to previous message
Dani Kimbro is currently offline  Dani Kimbro
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I would do that save for the fact that its not bells and whistles thats
clogging the machine, lots of other people have issues with this card. I
didn't know it before I purchased it though so I am stuck with the card.

On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 6:58:46 PM UTC-4, Fluxstringer wrote:
>
> Go Backwards on the OS versions. Find one that is much less bloat.
>
> A balanced system is better than one with bells and whistles that clog it
> and make it troublesome.
>
>
> Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer
> fluxst...@gmail.com <javascript:>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/
> http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer
> https://www.youtube.com/user/fluxstringer
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Len Gerstel <lger...@gmail.com
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2016, at 1:01 PM, Dani Kimbro wrote:
>>
>> Ok so I bought a gen 1 (non-2002) quicksilver for 10 bucks from a pawn
>>> shop.
>>>
>> snip
>>
>>> . I bought a radeon 9600 pulled from a g5 powermac. I figured it would
>>> work, but for some reason the computer can't figure out what to do with it
>>> based on the KEXTs ATI supplied. I tried updating to 10.5.8, updating the
>>> KEXTs via ATI's software on the webs. Nothing. Still blue screen and curser
>>> when I try to start it. I know its these KEXTs and how the graphics card is
>>> responding to them based on the fact that if I remove them completely the
>>> computer starts in normal mode just fine. So my first question: Anyone got
>>> any ideas of things I can do to try and get the card fully functional
>>> before I just blow money on a different model card?
>>>
>>
>> I used one in a G4. Not a KEXT problem, a hardware issue. There are 2
>> pins you need to disable do to apple using them for ADC connectors.
>>
>> Here are instructions:
>>
>> http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11
>>
>> Len
>>
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