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21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307274] Sun, 03 January 2016 14:27 Go to next message
Dave Baranyi is currently offline  Dave Baranyi
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2016 starts my 21st year of watching anime. Time and life flies by. What was I
watching 20 years ago?

“Meitantei Conan”, “Lupin III TV”, “Urusei Yatsura”...

What am I watching today?

“Meitantei Conan”. “Lupin III (2015)”, the Urusei Yatsura Blu-Ray discs...

“Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose”...

Okay, maybe not quite 100%. So what else was I watching or trying out back then?
(Thanks in great part to my Japanese friend's subscription at the time to the
Japanese “Kids Channel” which was re-broadcasting so many old anime TV series
and OAVs.)

“Fushigi Yuugi” TV + OAVs

“Battle Skipper”

“Dragon Ball GT” and “Dragon Ball Z”

“Cutey Honey Flash”

“Idol Eriko”

“Ruroni Kenshin”

“Crayon Shinchan”

“Flame of Recca”

“Kochira Katsushika-ku Kamearikouen-mae Hashutsujo”

“Ge Ge Ge no Kitaro”

“Jungle no Ouja Taachan”

“You're Under Arrest” TV + OAV

“Tenchi Muyo” OAV1 + TV1

“Son Goku”

“Dragon Quest”

“Yawara”

“Master Mosquiton” OAV

“NG Seishi Rumness & 40”

“Sasuga no Sarutobi”

“H2”

“Osomatsu-kun” TV2

“Gokinjo Monogatari”

“Nintama Rantaru”

“Rakushou! Hyper Doll”

“El Hazard – The Magnificent World” OAV

“Mikan Enikki”

“Maison Ikkoku”

Which of those have I re-watched in recent years (in addition to the UY discs)?
Only “El Hazard – The Magnificent World” OAV, which remains one of my all time
favourite anime stories.

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307334 is a reply to message #307274] Mon, 04 January 2016 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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In message <ABFA5CCB-953A-488D-963B-E34B8014DD77%anthony.baranyi@bell.net>
Dave Baranyi <anthony.baranyi@bell.net> wrote:

> 2016 starts my 21st year of watching anime. Time and life flies by.
> What was I watching 20 years ago?
>
> ”Meitantei Conan•, ”Lupin III TV•, ”Urusei Yatsura•...
>
> What am I watching today?
>
> ”Meitantei Conan•. ”Lupin III (2015)•, the Urusei Yatsura Blu-Ray
> discs...
>
> ”Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose•...

Is there ever a time when watching Lupin III and Urusei Yatsura _isn't_
a good idea?

I'm not so committed to Conan as you are, though.

> Okay, maybe not quite 100%. So what else was I watching or trying out
> back then? (Thanks in great part to my Japanese friend's
> subscription at the time to the Japanese ”Kids Channel• which was
> re-broadcasting so many old anime TV series and OAVs.)
>
> ”Fushigi Yuugi• TV + OAVs
>
> ”Battle Skipper•
>
> ”Dragon Ball GT• and ”Dragon Ball Z•
>
> ”Cutey Honey Flash•
>
> ”Idol Eriko•
>
> ”Ruroni Kenshin•
>
> ”Crayon Shinchan•
>
> ”Flame of Recca•
>
> ”Kochira Katsushika-ku Kamearikouen-mae Hashutsujo•
>
> ”Ge Ge Ge no Kitaro•
>
> ”Jungle no Ouja Taachan•
>
> ”You're Under Arrest• TV + OAV
>
> ”Tenchi Muyo• OAV1 + TV1
>
> ”Son Goku•
>
> ”Dragon Quest•
>
> ”Yawara•
>
> ”Master Mosquiton• OAV
>
> ”NG Seishi Rumness & 40•
>
> ”Sasuga no Sarutobi•
>
> ”H2•
>
> ”Osomatsu-kun• TV2
>
> ”Gokinjo Monogatari•
>
> ”Nintama Rantaru•
>
> ”Rakushou! Hyper Doll•
>
> ”El Hazard — The Magnificent World• OAV
>
> ”Mikan Enikki•
>
> ”Maison Ikkoku•
>
> Which of those have I re-watched in recent years (in addition to the
> UY discs)? Only ”El Hazard — The Magnificent World• OAV, which
> remains one of my all time favourite anime stories.

I concur again.

As we seem to have a degree of commonality of tastes, perhaps I should
revisit Conan 8-)

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307409 is a reply to message #307274] Mon, 04 January 2016 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nick Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <ABFA5CCB-953A-488D-963B-E34B8014DD77%anthony.baranyi@bell.net>
> Dave Baranyi <anthony.baranyi@bell.net> wrote:
>
>> 2016 starts my 21st year of watching anime. Time and life flies by.
>> What was I watching 20 years ago?
>>
>> ”Meitantei Conan•, ”Lupin III TV•, ”Urusei Yatsura•...
>>
>> What am I watching today?
>>
>> ”Meitantei Conan•. ”Lupin III (2015)•, the Urusei Yatsura Blu-Ray
>> discs...
>>
>> ”Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose•...
>
> Is there ever a time when watching Lupin III and Urusei Yatsura _isn't_
> a good idea?
>
> I'm not so committed to Conan as you are, though.
>
>> Okay, maybe not quite 100%. So what else was I watching or trying out
>> back then? (Thanks in great part to my Japanese friend's
>> subscription at the time to the Japanese ”Kids Channel• which was
>> re-broadcasting so many old anime TV series and OAVs.)
>>
>> ”Fushigi Yuugi• TV + OAVs
>>
>> ”Battle Skipper•
>>
>> ”Dragon Ball GT• and ”Dragon Ball Z•
>>
>> ”Cutey Honey Flash•
>>
>> ”Idol Eriko•
>>
>> ”Ruroni Kenshin•
>>
>> ”Crayon Shinchan•
>>
>> ”Flame of Recca•
>>
>> ”Kochira Katsushika-ku Kamearikouen-mae Hashutsujo•
>>
>> ”Ge Ge Ge no Kitaro•
>>
>> ”Jungle no Ouja Taachan•
>>
>> ”You're Under Arrest• TV + OAV
>>
>> ”Tenchi Muyo• OAV1 + TV1
>>
>> ”Son Goku•
>>
>> ”Dragon Quest•
>>
>> ”Yawara•
>>
>> ”Master Mosquiton• OAV
>>
>> ”NG Seishi Rumness & 40•
>>
>> ”Sasuga no Sarutobi•
>>
>> ”H2•
>>
>> ”Osomatsu-kun• TV2
>>
>> ”Gokinjo Monogatari•
>>
>> ”Nintama Rantaru•
>>
>> ”Rakushou! Hyper Doll•
>>
>> ”El Hazard — The Magnificent World• OAV
>>
>> ”Mikan Enikki•
>>
>> ”Maison Ikkoku•
>>
>> Which of those have I re-watched in recent years (in addition to the
>> UY discs)? Only ”El Hazard — The Magnificent World• OAV, which
>> remains one of my all time favourite anime stories.
>
> I concur again.
>
> As we seem to have a degree of commonality of tastes, perhaps I should
> revisit Conan 8-)
>
>

Meitantei Conan is an acquired taste of sorts. You have to appreciate that it
is outwardly aimed at grade school-aged kids and deliberately goes out of its
way to try to teach younger viewers logical thinking patterns. At the same
time it has always appealed to young women/young mothers with the on-going
romances and all of the gossipy class-conscious cases. Over the run of the
series the advertisements have always aimed for kids during the first half of
an episode and women during the second half of the episode.

The reasonably consistent quality of the mysteries is an added bonus, as are
the characters. I suspect most long time viewers of the series are like me
and find the "comfort" in the characters and their behaviours to be one of
the most attractive parts of the series.

And as the movies and the semi-annual conflicts with the Black Gang show, the
series can do action quite well when the situation calls for it.

So yes, the series has been going on too long and the author (and many long
time fans, LOL ) might die before it finishes, but it continues to provide
good, solid entertainment, year in and year out, in an industry which too
often attempts to only pander to the lowest common denominator.

Dave Baranyi


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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307686 is a reply to message #307274] Wed, 06 January 2016 16:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow, 21 years now, eh. I think you have a year or two on me. My earliest
post on Compuserve from my OzWin archives is from late 1997. I can't
remember whether I started that year or possibly 1996. My first introduction
was through anime movies on Space Channel: Ninja Scroll, Harmageddon, Night
on the Galactic Railroad, Roujin-Z, Wings of Honneamise. Somebody in the
network must have caught the anime bug because those were great movies that
nobody else aired at a time when the only anime on TV was Dragonball, DBZ
and Sailor Moon, and they were only considered anime by a select few.

So, technically, the first series that I watched which I considered anime
would have been Dragonball Z (sadly they didn't dub more than one or two
seasons of Dragonball). I then started renting and buying series:
-Dragonball Z
-Ranma 1/2
-Tenchi Muyo (Tenchi Universe TV series)
-El Hazard: The Wanderers (TV series)
-Gunbuster
-Gunsmith Cats

Early fansubs would have been:
-Marmalade Boy
-Fushigi Yugi
-Nurse Angel Ririka SOS


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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307717 is a reply to message #307274] Wed, 06 January 2016 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Tank <no_Tank_spam_252ca@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, 21 years now, eh. I think you have a year or two on me. My earliest
> post on Compuserve from my OzWin archives is from late 1997. I can't
> remember whether I started that year or possibly 1996. My first introduction
> was through anime movies on Space Channel: Ninja Scroll, Harmageddon, Night
> on the Galactic Railroad, Roujin-Z, Wings of Honneamise. Somebody in the
> network must have caught the anime bug because those were great movies that
> nobody else aired at a time when the only anime on TV was Dragonball, DBZ
> and Sailor Moon, and they were only considered anime by a select few.
>
> So, technically, the first series that I watched which I considered anime
> would have been Dragonball Z (sadly they didn't dub more than one or two
> seasons of Dragonball). I then started renting and buying series:
> -Dragonball Z
> -Ranma 1/2
> -Tenchi Muyo (Tenchi Universe TV series)
> -El Hazard: The Wanderers (TV series)
> -Gunbuster
> -Gunsmith Cats
>
> Early fansubs would have been:
> -Marmalade Boy
> -Fushigi Yugi
> -Nurse Angel Ririka SOS
>
>
> --Edwin E.
>

Yeah, I remember watching "Wings of Mayonnaise" on cable in those days too.
(LOL)

You can tell that I wasn't as impressed by "Wings" as a lot of other fans, but
then, I blame it reading Analog for decades and also a personal long term
disinterest in melodrama, which tended to be present in so many "serious" anime
movies in those days. That's where UY and in particular "Beautiful Dreamer" was
such a gale of fresh air for me.

It's quite possible that if I didn't discover the UY movies and TV series in
early 96 I might not have become an anime fan at all.

Thanks for the comments -

Dave Baranyi

BTW - I also seem to remember discovering CServe's Anime Forum around the same
time as you. Up until then I was mainly active in various anime mailing lists.
It was in one of those where I stumbled upon the request to trade tapes from a
girl in Japan, who ended up becoming the friend with whom I ended up trading
over a thousand tapes of North American TV shows for various anime over a six
year period.

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307750 is a reply to message #307686] Wed, 06 January 2016 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/6/16 4:41 PM, Tank wrote:
> Wow, 21 years now, eh. I think you have a year or two on me.

Watching anime "as" anime, I have about 5 years on him. 1990 was the
year I started watching anime regularly. I had gotten on Usenet a year
or two before that, although I've never been able to find any posts
earlier than 1991; however, reading those posts showed I'd already been
around for quite a while.



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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307759 is a reply to message #307750] Thu, 07 January 2016 04:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 07/01/2016 04:56, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
> On 1/6/16 4:41 PM, Tank wrote:
>> Wow, 21 years now, eh. I think you have a year or two on me.
>
> Watching anime "as" anime, I have about 5 years on him. 1990 was the
> year I started watching anime regularly. I had gotten on Usenet a year
> or two before that, although I've never been able to find any posts
> earlier than 1991; however, reading those posts showed I'd already been
> around for quite a while.
>
I discovered anime in 1990, when I went to a sci-fi convention in
Liverpool (I think it was the annual Easter Convention). Some fans had
gotten a batch of fansubs from the USA and showed them in a big hall. It
was mostly movies and OVAs as I recall. I saw stuff like Windaria,
Nausicaa etc and was hugely impressed. I think they had "Dominion Tank
Police" as well. Jaws dropped at a screening of Urotsukidoji" (it was
very popular) :-).
I was instantly hooked as a fan of this exotic medium. Soon after this,
"Akira" got a video release in the UK. Hard to believe that I've been
watching anime for 25 years. Back then one could only get anime as
dubbed releases or hard-to get fansubs.
Now anime is cheaper in real terms than it was back then (or free to the
more flexibly-minded) and available at the touch of a few buttons. A
shame that it's hard to rouse more than a dim flicker of enthusiasm for
the recent output.

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307832 is a reply to message #307274] Thu, 07 January 2016 19:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:56:30 -0500, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:

> Watching anime "as" anime, I have about 5 years on him. 1990 was the
> year I started watching anime regularly. I had gotten on Usenet a year
> or two before that, although I've never been able to find any posts
> earlier than 1991; however, reading those posts showed I'd already been
> around for quite a while.

I think I have most of us beat. The first shows I was consciously aware of
being anime were Star Blazers and the Force Five anthology in 1979 -- with
the caveats that it was "Japanimation" and that it would take 10 years for
"anime" to start to supplant that term in English-speaking fandom's
general lexicon. I was vaguely aware of the Star Blazers Fan Club during
the early 1980s courtesy of a handful of issues of Starlog but it was my
introduction to the BJS in 1986 or 1987 that got me more seriously into it.

My earliest usenet posts in Google's archives are from 1990 but I was on
the ANIME-L BITNET reflector within a few months of its creation which was
shortly after the newgroup for rec.arts.anime went out, probably some time
in 1988.

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307849 is a reply to message #307832] Thu, 07 January 2016 23:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 01/07/2016 06:19 PM, Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 23:56:30 -0500, Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor) wrote:
>
>> Watching anime "as" anime, I have about 5 years on him. 1990 was the
>> year I started watching anime regularly. I had gotten on Usenet a year
>> or two before that, although I've never been able to find any posts
>> earlier than 1991; however, reading those posts showed I'd already been
>> around for quite a while.
>
> I think I have most of us beat. The first shows I was consciously aware of
> being anime were Star Blazers and the Force Five anthology in 1979 -- with
> the caveats that it was "Japanimation" and that it would take 10 years for
> "anime" to start to supplant that term in English-speaking fandom's
> general lexicon. I was vaguely aware of the Star Blazers Fan Club during
> the early 1980s courtesy of a handful of issues of Starlog but it was my
> introduction to the BJS in 1986 or 1987 that got me more seriously into it.
>
> My earliest usenet posts in Google's archives are from 1990 but I was on
> the ANIME-L BITNET reflector within a few months of its creation which was
> shortly after the newgroup for rec.arts.anime went out, probably some time
> in 1988.
>

I noticed my fare of entertainment came from Japan in the second half of
the 1970s, on the cartoons that were broadcasted over the air where I
lived as a kid.

First clue was the つづく at the end of the series, like Princess
Knight, Heidi, Marco, Perrine

Then it was notable the difference of animation techniques when
comparing Japanese cartoons vs US limited animation shows like Felix the
Cat, Underdog or the Road Runner.

Also, it was hard of not notice all the Japanese text, names and
landmarks appearing in shows like Skyers 5, Comet-san and Astroboy, I
liked how those names sounded: Yukino, Tsukuba, Koji, Takeshi



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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307965 is a reply to message #307759] Fri, 08 January 2016 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 09:48:41 +0000, GeoffC <info@sandg-anime-reviews.net>
wrote:

> I discovered anime in 1990, when I went to a sci-fi convention in
> Liverpool (I think it was the annual Easter Convention). Some fans had
> gotten a batch of fansubs from the USA and showed them in a big hall. It
> was mostly movies and OVAs as I recall. I saw stuff like Windaria,
> Nausicaa etc and was hugely impressed. I think they had "Dominion Tank
> Police" as well. Jaws dropped at a screening of Urotsukidoji" (it was
> very popular) :-).

Ah, how could I forget Dominion Tank Police! I still have the tapes. Just
the first 2 as I recall. Couldn't get the 3rd one for some reason. I have
some older shows, but they were acquired used from Jumbo Video when they
closed down so I obtained them much later. I didn't want to include any
anime that I had seen when I was younger as I treated them the same as other
Saturday morning cartoons. It wasn't really until Dragonball and those Space
Channel movies came along that I got bitten by the 'anime' bug.

--Edwin E.
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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307967 is a reply to message #307274] Fri, 08 January 2016 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 22:40:42 -0600, Gerardo Campos wrote:

> I noticed my fare of entertainment came from Japan in the second half of
> the 1970s, on the cartoons that were broadcasted over the air where I
> lived as a kid.

I was subconsciously aware that there was something different about Kimba,
Astro-Boy, Speed Racer, et.al., in relation to American productions. My
mother told me that I was utterly transfixed by Kimba as a toddler -- that
would have been 1968-ish -- but I have no memories of it so it doesn't
count.

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #307999 is a reply to message #307967] Sat, 09 January 2016 14:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 1/8/2016 11:07 AM, Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 22:40:42 -0600, Gerardo Campos wrote:
>
>> I noticed my fare of entertainment came from Japan in the second half of
>> the 1970s, on the cartoons that were broadcasted over the air where I
>> lived as a kid.
>
> I was subconsciously aware that there was something different about Kimba,
> Astro-Boy, Speed Racer, et.al., in relation to American productions. My
> mother told me that I was utterly transfixed by Kimba as a toddler -- that
> would have been 1968-ish -- but I have no memories of it so it doesn't
> count.
>

Forty plus years later, and I can still remember singing along to the
Marine Boy theme song. I was always bugging my mom for some of that oxy-gum.

I remember watching Kimba and Astro Boy every morning before heading off
to elementary school. Ah, good times.

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #308012 is a reply to message #307274] Sat, 09 January 2016 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kirk James <dev60@isp.com> wrote:

> On 1/8/2016 11:07 AM, Stainless Steel Rat wrote:
>> On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 22:40:42 -0600, Gerardo Campos wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed my fare of entertainment came from Japan in the second half of
>>> the 1970s, on the cartoons that were broadcasted over the air where I
>>> lived as a kid.
>>
>> I was subconsciously aware that there was something different about Kimba,
>> Astro-Boy, Speed Racer, et.al., in relation to American productions. My
>> mother told me that I was utterly transfixed by Kimba as a toddler -- that
>> would have been 1968-ish -- but I have no memories of it so it doesn't
>> count.
>>
>
> Forty plus years later, and I can still remember singing along to the
> Marine Boy theme song. I was always bugging my mom for some of that oxy-gum.
>
> I remember watching Kimba and Astro Boy every morning before heading off
> to elementary school. Ah, good times.
>
>

So you guys had anime to watch when you were little kids. I had Kukla, Fran,
and Ollie (but not Howdy Doody because he scared the hell out of me and I would
refuse to watch him...)

Dave Baranyi

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Re: 21st Year of Watching Anime [message #308042 is a reply to message #307999] Sat, 09 January 2016 23:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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On 01/09/2016 01:09 PM, Kirk James wrote:
> Forty plus years later, and I can still remember singing along to the
> Marine Boy theme song. I was always bugging my mom for some of that
> oxy-gum.
>
> I remember watching Kimba and Astro Boy every morning before heading off
> to elementary school. Ah, good times.
>

For some reason, I always remember the Spanish opening song for Skyers 5
(Agente S-5) (Por la justicia, siempre lucha, el agente ese 5)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TW04isaCnQ

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On Sat, 09 Jan 2016 20:26:52 +0000, Dave Baranyi wrote:

> So you guys had anime to watch when you were little kids. I had Kukla,

We had very Americanized anime when we were little kids. :)

> Fran, and Ollie (but not Howdy Doody because he scared the hell out of
> me and I would refuse to watch him...)

We had those, too, along with a slew of Sid & Marty Kroft puppet shows.

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