| Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298240] |
Fri, 21 August 2015 04:38  |
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Originally posted by: Neo Fortune
How would you design a new revolutionary Amiga Computer?
I love my Sony VAIO laptop, but would love to purchase a state of the art Amiga :-)
I can't stand Apple Macs, they always feels over-engineered, and three times more expensive than a PC...
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298300 is a reply to message #298240] |
Fri, 21 August 2015 18:29  |
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In article <60a71986-0ab1-46de-ae7d-2ebca1ad696d@googlegroups.com>, Neo
Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> wrote:
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> How would you design a new revolutionary Amiga Computer?
>
> I love my Sony VAIO laptop, but would love to purchase a state of the art
> Amiga :-)
It can't be done. The Amiga came along at the point in history where
such a design made sense. These days such a design is unnecessary. The
best you could do is have a computer with a fast CPU and great graphics
card ... which you can already buy, but it isn't really an "Amiga".
> I can't stand Apple Macs, they always feels over-engineered,
Weird since Sony and HP tend to copy Apple's laptop designs. (HP even
make one called "Envy" which is so damn near a direct copy that they
can be confused at a glance if you don't see the lid for the Apple
logo)
> and three times more expensive than a PC...
Macs actually aren't more expensive if you compare machines that have
the *same* specs. Most cheaper PCs don't come with the same level of
equipment - slower CPUs, smaller displays, non-HD displays, less RAM,
etc.
Even if they were, by the time you add in the lack of malware issues,
longevity, etc., the Mac works out much cheaper.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298551 is a reply to message #298300] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 04:53 |
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Originally posted by: Neo Fortune
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 11:28:14 PM UTC+1, Your Name wrote:
> In article <60a71986-0ab1-46de-ae7d-2ebca1ad696d@googlegroups.com>, Neo
> Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> How would you design a new revolutionary Amiga Computer?
>>
>> I love my Sony VAIO laptop, but would love to purchase a state of the art
>> Amiga :-)
>
> It can't be done. The Amiga came along at the point in history where
> such a design made sense. These days such a design is unnecessary. The
> best you could do is have a computer with a fast CPU and great graphics
> card ... which you can already buy, but it isn't really an "Amiga".
>
Of course it can be done :-)
The new Amiga would be revolutionary...
It's design using off the shelf tech
>
>> I can't stand Apple Macs, they always feels over-engineered,
>
> Weird since Sony and HP tend to copy Apple's laptop designs. (HP even
> make one called "Envy" which is so damn near a direct copy that they
> can be confused at a glance if you don't see the lid for the Apple
> logo)
>
Strangely enough in The Net Film(1995) Sandra Bullock was using a Power Mac, with graphics a direct rip-off of the Amiga...
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298585 is a reply to message #298300] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 09:31 |
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Originally posted by: Ryan P.
On 8/21/2015 5:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
{SNIP}
> Even if they were, by the time you add in the lack of malware issues,
> longevity, etc., the Mac works out much cheaper.
I'm surprised at how popular this idea still is. Mac's have viruses
and malware just like any PC. There are just fewer variants for AppleOS
devices because there are few devices, making it less worth the time for
malicious programmers.
A quick Google search reveals a lot, but this is my favorite quote:
"To try and get a better idea of the size of the risk, we asked
independent, anti-virus research institute, AV-Test.
“We have discovered and registered more than 48 million new unique
malware samples this year alone, but more than 98% have been written for
the Windows platform,” says Andreas Marx, AV-Test CEO, “Less than 5,000
new viruses were written for Mac OS X, but these kinds of malicious
software do exist.”"
(Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/can-macs-get-viruses/)
NO digital devices are malware-free anymore! Even the fancy new
refrigerators have instances of being hacked to become spam zombies.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298586 is a reply to message #298551] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 09:33 |
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On 08/24/2015 01:53 AM, Neo Fortune wrote:
> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 11:28:14 PM UTC+1, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <60a71986-0ab1-46de-ae7d-2ebca1ad696d@googlegroups.com>, Neo
>> Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> How would you design a new revolutionary Amiga Computer?
>>>
>>> I love my Sony VAIO laptop, but would love to purchase a state of the art
>>> Amiga :-)
>>
>> It can't be done. The Amiga came along at the point in history where
>> such a design made sense. These days such a design is unnecessary. The
>> best you could do is have a computer with a fast CPU and great graphics
>> card ... which you can already buy, but it isn't really an "Amiga".
>>
>
> Of course it can be done :-)
>
> The new Amiga would be revolutionary...
>
> It's design using off the shelf tech
How could that be revolutionary?
The original Amiga used available parts but in a new way so that
you had the graphic/sound chips to take the load off the main processor
It was also faster than the competition at the time.
The OS was designed to work with the hardware.
The Amiga was ahead of its time in an era when the power of graphics
and color had not been realized by its competition
>
>>
>>> I can't stand Apple Macs, they always feels over-engineered,
>>
>> Weird since Sony and HP tend to copy Apple's laptop designs. (HP even
>> make one called "Envy" which is so damn near a direct copy that they
>> can be confused at a glance if you don't see the lid for the Apple
>> logo)
>>
>
> Strangely enough in The Net Film(1995) Sandra Bullock was using a Power Mac, with graphics a direct rip-off of the Amiga...
>
You may see a lot of stuff done in films which is not possible
in real life.
I loved my Amigas but they and my youth are long past.
It is too bad that the various copyright owners and licensees were
unable to bring a computer with the OS and modern components
to market but again poor choices were made when the Power PC processor
was chosen. This lead to a dead end when the Apple computers abandoned
the use of that chip while the original 680x0 series was abandoned by
its creators.
These days I use Linux on an AMD 4 core with 12 GiB of ram.
and 700+ GiB of Hard Disk space. I bought a HP notebook when
my Compaq notebook broke down. I expect to get no more that
5 years of life from it and more likely will trade it in for
a newer faster machine if I last long enough to find a newer
faster machine that has the connectivity I desire. I hope I
can afford a more durable machine. My Amiga 2000 lasted very
well and many people are still running original machines.
I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
bliss
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298652 is a reply to message #298586] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 17:17 |
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In article <mrf6c0$ik$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> On 08/24/2015 01:53 AM, Neo Fortune wrote:
>> On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 11:28:14 PM UTC+1, Your Name wrote:
>>> In article <60a71986-0ab1-46de-ae7d-2ebca1ad696d@googlegroups.com>, Neo
>>> Fortune <serenity3043@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How would you design a new revolutionary Amiga Computer?
>>>>
>>>> I love my Sony VAIO laptop, but would love to purchase a state of the art
>>>> Amiga :-)
>>>
>>> It can't be done. The Amiga came along at the point in history where
>>> such a design made sense. These days such a design is unnecessary. The
>>> best you could do is have a computer with a fast CPU and great graphics
>>> card ... which you can already buy, but it isn't really an "Amiga".
>>>
>>
>> Of course it can be done :-)
>>
>> The new Amiga would be revolutionary...
>>
>> It's design using off the shelf tech
>
> How could that be revolutionary?
> The original Amiga used available parts but in a new way so that
> you had the graphic/sound chips to take the load off the main processor
> It was also faster than the competition at the time.
> The OS was designed to work with the hardware.
> The Amiga was ahead of its time in an era when the power of graphics
> and color had not been realized by its competition
>>
>>
>>>> I can't stand Apple Macs, they always feels over-engineered,
>>>
>>> Weird since Sony and HP tend to copy Apple's laptop designs. (HP even
>>> make one called "Envy" which is so damn near a direct copy that they
>>> can be confused at a glance if you don't see the lid for the Apple
>>> logo)
>>>
>>
>> Strangely enough in The Net Film(1995) Sandra Bullock was using a Power
>> Mac, with graphics a direct rip-off of the Amiga...
>
> You may see a lot of stuff done in films which is not possible
> in real life.
You often see actor using one type of computer only to see the wrong
operating system when the screen is shown. The Amiga used to be highly
used in the film / industry (it was one of it's strengths) so was
likely often easier to use that for screen displays.
Sometimes you would see someone using a Mac only to then see the screen
with Windoze on it.
> I loved my Amigas but they and my youth are long past.
> It is too bad that the various copyright owners and licensees were
> unable to bring a computer with the OS and modern components
> to market but again poor choices were made when the Power PC processor
> was chosen. This lead to a dead end when the Apple computers abandoned
> the use of that chip while the original 680x0 series was abandoned by
> its creators.
The PowerPC wasn't a "poor choice" at all. It was the better chip and
in some ways still is. From memory the games consoles from Microsloth
(up to the 360), Sony (up to the PS3), and Nintendo (up to the Wii) all
used PowerPC variants. I haven't bothered to check the latest
generation, but at least some of them may well still do so.
One of the biggest reasons Apple switched to Intel was due to the silly
"megahertz myth". Morons would see a 200MHz (for example) PowerPC as
being slower / worse than a 300MHz (for example) Intel chip, when it
was really the other way around.
> These days I use Linux on an AMD 4 core with 12 GiB of ram.
> and 700+ GiB of Hard Disk space. I bought a HP notebook when
> my Compaq notebook broke down. I expect to get no more that
> 5 years of life from it and more likely will trade it in for
> a newer faster machine if I last long enough to find a newer
> faster machine that has the connectivity I desire. I hope I
> can afford a more durable machine. My Amiga 2000 lasted very
> well and many people are still running original machines.
Yep, there was a news story only a few weeks ago about some US schools
still using an Amiga to control the heating / ventilating equipment.
> I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
It's not just Amigas. My PowerMac is nearing 20 years old and is still
in daily use as my only computer - it's outlasted two CRT displays, a
scanner, and a few mice, but the computer itself (other than the floppy
disk drive) and the original hard drive (since added to with an
additional larger drive) are still working perfectly well. :-)
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298653 is a reply to message #298585] |
Mon, 24 August 2015 17:32 |
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In article <mrf68q$a6$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 8/21/2015 5:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
>
> {SNIP}
>
>> Even if they were, by the time you add in the lack of malware issues,
>> longevity, etc., the Mac works out much cheaper.
>
> I'm surprised at how popular this idea still is.
Because it's still a true FACT.
> Mac's have viruses and malware just like any PC.
FACTS:
A. There is WAY more malware for Windoze PCs than there is for Macs
B. Almost all of the so-called malware for Macs are theoretical and
widely reported by scumbag anti-malware makers to try and get the
unwary to buy their useless and unnecessary software. (In at
least one case the anti-malware application is worse than any
malware!)
C. The extremely few pieces of malware for Macs that are "in the wild"
can only infect you Mac if you give it the admin password to allow
it to be installed ... and even then you will only get it by
doing stupid things like downloading pirate software or visiting
porn website.
D. Installing anti-malware software on a Mac is a completely
pointless waste of time. All you're going to do is waste drive
space, memory, and processor time ... as well as money if you're
stupid enough to pay for it. The only malware it will ever find
is Windoze crap that can't affect your Mac anyway.
> There are just fewer variants for AppleOS devices because there are few
> devices, making it less worth the time for malicious programmers.
There may be fewer Apple devices, but the fast growing popularity would
mean it's a good target. The FACT is that it's simply too difficult to
do.
> A quick Google search reveals a lot, but this is my favorite quote:
>
> "To try and get a better idea of the size of the risk, we asked
> independent, anti-virus research institute, AV-Test.
>
> We have discovered and registered more than 48 million new unique
> malware samples this year alone, but more than 98% have been written for
> the Windows platform, says Andreas Marx, AV-Test CEO, Less than 5,000
> new viruses were written for Mac OS X, but these kinds of malicious
> software do exist."
> (Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/can-macs-get-viruses/)
Let me guess - the "independent" company and/or Digital Trends sells
anti-malware software.
Ask any Mac expert and you'll get the same answer: anti-malware
software on a Mac is just a pointless waste of time.
> NO digital devices are malware-free anymore! Even the fancy new
> refrigerators have instances of being hacked to become spam zombies.
I never said there wasn't any Mac malware ... I original said "lack of
malware issues" thanks to all the FACTS above.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298731 is a reply to message #298652] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 13:01 |
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Originally posted by: Ryan P.
On 8/24/2015 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <mrf6c0$ik$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers
{snip}
>> I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
>
> It's not just Amigas. My PowerMac is nearing 20 years old and is still
> in daily use as my only computer - it's outlasted two CRT displays, a
> scanner, and a few mice, but the computer itself (other than the floppy
> disk drive) and the original hard drive (since added to with an
> additional larger drive) are still working perfectly well. :-)
Yeah, my A2000 still runs along happily after 20 years. Parts are
being made to be more and more disposable every year.
Of course, its not just computers. My first washer and dryer lasted
20 years, and the fancy new ones my wife wanted to replace them lasted
only 5 years.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298732 is a reply to message #298653] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 13:18 |
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Originally posted by: Ryan P.
On 8/24/2015 4:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <mrf68q$a6$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/21/2015 5:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>
>> {SNIP}
>>
>>> Even if they were, by the time you add in the lack of malware issues,
>>> longevity, etc., the Mac works out much cheaper.
>>
>> I'm surprised at how popular this idea still is.
>
> Because it's still a true FACT.
>
>
>
>> Mac's have viruses and malware just like any PC.
>
>
> FACTS:
>
> A. There is WAY more malware for Windoze PCs than there is for Macs
>
> B. Almost all of the so-called malware for Macs are theoretical and
> widely reported by scumbag anti-malware makers to try and get the
> unwary to buy their useless and unnecessary software. (In at
> least one case the anti-malware application is worse than any
> malware!)
>
> C. The extremely few pieces of malware for Macs that are "in the wild"
> can only infect you Mac if you give it the admin password to allow
> it to be installed ... and even then you will only get it by
> doing stupid things like downloading pirate software or visiting
> porn website.
>
> D. Installing anti-malware software on a Mac is a completely
> pointless waste of time. All you're going to do is waste drive
> space, memory, and processor time ... as well as money if you're
> stupid enough to pay for it. The only malware it will ever find
> is Windoze crap that can't affect your Mac anyway.
>
>
>
>> There are just fewer variants for AppleOS devices because there are few
>> devices, making it less worth the time for malicious programmers.
>
> There may be fewer Apple devices, but the fast growing popularity would
> mean it's a good target. The FACT is that it's simply too difficult to
> do.
>
>
>
>
>> A quick Google search reveals a lot, but this is my favorite quote:
>>
>> "To try and get a better idea of the size of the risk, we asked
>> independent, anti-virus research institute, AV-Test.
>>
>> “We have discovered and registered more than 48 million new unique
>> malware samples this year alone, but more than 98% have been written for
>> the Windows platform,” says Andreas Marx, AV-Test CEO, “Less than 5,000
>> new viruses were written for Mac OS X, but these kinds of malicious
>> software do exist.”"
>> (Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/can-macs-get-viruses/)
>
> Let me guess - the "independent" company and/or Digital Trends sells
> anti-malware software.
>
> Ask any Mac expert and you'll get the same answer: anti-malware
> software on a Mac is just a pointless waste of time.
>
>
>
>
>> NO digital devices are malware-free anymore! Even the fancy new
>> refrigerators have instances of being hacked to become spam zombies.
>
> I never said there wasn't any Mac malware ... I original said "lack of
> malware issues" thanks to all the FACTS above.
Here's the problem with that whole argument... Since the vast majority
of AppleOS people think their computers are immune to viruses/malware,
they don't run anti-malware software, any instances of malware that DO
get into the wild go undetected by the vast majority of AppleOS people.
I'm not arguing that Macs have just as much Malware... Obviously they
don't. But to say that they are invulnerable to malware is ignorant.
Just look at the Flashback trojan that's still alive after how many years?
If researchers somewhere can come up with contained malware as "proof of
concept" (like Thunderstrike 2), then hackers looking to make money can,
too.
Again, I agree, at the moment, that you're far less likely to get
malware on a Mac than a Windows machine.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298791 is a reply to message #298731] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 17:40 |
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In article <mri6tc$jro$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <mrf6c0$ik$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers
>
> {snip}
>
>>> I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
>>
>> It's not just Amigas. My PowerMac is nearing 20 years old and is still
>> in daily use as my only computer - it's outlasted two CRT displays, a
>> scanner, and a few mice, but the computer itself (other than the floppy
>> disk drive) and the original hard drive (since added to with an
>> additional larger drive) are still working perfectly well. :-)
>
> Yeah, my A2000 still runs along happily after 20 years. Parts are
> being made to be more and more disposable every year.
>
> Of course, its not just computers. My first washer and dryer lasted
> 20 years, and the fancy new ones my wife wanted to replace them lasted
> only 5 years.
Assuming the tube didn't die, a CRT-based TV could last for decades
(and some have). These new-fangled flat-screen TVs actually have a
limited lifespans due to the screen itself only being able to work for
a certain length of time.
The push for everything to be made faster, released quicker, etc. also
means there's a lack of proper testing and quality control. Even if you
take into account better / easier reporting and the "nanny state" these
days, there still seems to be far more factory recalls of products
(including food) these days than there ever used to be - at least one
almost every week in the local newspaper.
It's not all due to the durability / workmanship or lack of longevity
though. Mobile phones, for example, are often replaced long before they
need to be simply because the owner wants the latest toy, even though
their current one still works perfectly well.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298792 is a reply to message #298731] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 17:43 |
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In article <mri6tc$jro$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <mrf6c0$ik$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers
>
> {snip}
>
>>> I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
>>
>> It's not just Amigas. My PowerMac is nearing 20 years old and is still
>> in daily use as my only computer - it's outlasted two CRT displays, a
>> scanner, and a few mice, but the computer itself (other than the floppy
>> disk drive) and the original hard drive (since added to with an
>> additional larger drive) are still working perfectly well. :-)
>
> Yeah, my A2000 still runs along happily after 20 years. Parts are
> being made to be more and more disposable every year.
>
> Of course, its not just computers. My first washer and dryer lasted
> 20 years, and the fancy new ones my wife wanted to replace them lasted
> only 5 years.
Part of that is the overloading of features. It's a clothes dryer, does
it really need 150 different settings and 30 different controls?? Our
30+ year old dryer has ONE dial that can be turned in two directions
(one for lightweight clothes and one for heavier clothes) to set the
preferred time ... that's it! There's no "automatic weight sensing",
not separate settings for if the clothes are green, purple, or orange,
etc.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298793 is a reply to message #298732] |
Tue, 25 August 2015 17:51 |
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In article <mri7t6$o6s$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 4:32 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <mrf68q$a6$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/21/2015 5:29 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>
>>> {SNIP}
>>>
>>>> Even if they were, by the time you add in the lack of malware issues,
>>>> longevity, etc., the Mac works out much cheaper.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised at how popular this idea still is.
>>
>> Because it's still a true FACT.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Mac's have viruses and malware just like any PC.
>>
>>
>> FACTS:
>>
>> A. There is WAY more malware for Windoze PCs than there is for Macs
>>
>> B. Almost all of the so-called malware for Macs are theoretical and
>> widely reported by scumbag anti-malware makers to try and get the
>> unwary to buy their useless and unnecessary software. (In at
>> least one case the anti-malware application is worse than any
>> malware!)
>>
>> C. The extremely few pieces of malware for Macs that are "in the wild"
>> can only infect you Mac if you give it the admin password to allow
>> it to be installed ... and even then you will only get it by
>> doing stupid things like downloading pirate software or visiting
>> porn website.
>>
>> D. Installing anti-malware software on a Mac is a completely
>> pointless waste of time. All you're going to do is waste drive
>> space, memory, and processor time ... as well as money if you're
>> stupid enough to pay for it. The only malware it will ever find
>> is Windoze crap that can't affect your Mac anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>>> There are just fewer variants for AppleOS devices because there are few
>>> devices, making it less worth the time for malicious programmers.
>>
>> There may be fewer Apple devices, but the fast growing popularity would
>> mean it's a good target. The FACT is that it's simply too difficult to
>> do.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> A quick Google search reveals a lot, but this is my favorite quote:
>>>
>>> "To try and get a better idea of the size of the risk, we asked
>>> independent, anti-virus research institute, AV-Test.
>>>
>>> We have discovered and registered more than 48 million new unique
>>> malware samples this year alone, but more than 98% have been written for
>>> the Windows platform, says Andreas Marx, AV-Test CEO, Less than 5,000
>>> new viruses were written for Mac OS X, but these kinds of malicious
>>> software do exist."
>>> (Source: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/can-macs-get-viruses/)
>>
>> Let me guess - the "independent" company and/or Digital Trends sells
>> anti-malware software.
>>
>> Ask any Mac expert and you'll get the same answer: anti-malware
>> software on a Mac is just a pointless waste of time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> NO digital devices are malware-free anymore! Even the fancy new
>>> refrigerators have instances of being hacked to become spam zombies.
>>
>> I never said there wasn't any Mac malware ... I original said "lack of
>> malware issues" thanks to all the FACTS above.
>
> Here's the problem with that whole argument... Since the vast majority
> of AppleOS people think their computers are immune to viruses/malware,
> they don't run anti-malware software, any instances of malware that DO
> get into the wild go undetected by the vast majority of AppleOS people.
Pick ANY* Mac you want and run an anti-malware checker over it, and you
will not find any malware on it. It simply doesn't exist in the wild
and nobody has ever found any.
* The exception, as I said above, are those stupid people who download
pirate material and visit dodgy websites ... and they get what they
deserve anyway.
> I'm not arguing that Macs have just as much Malware... Obviously they
> don't. But to say that they are invulnerable to malware is ignorant.
> Just look at the Flashback trojan that's still alive after how many years?
>
> If researchers somewhere can come up with contained malware as "proof of
> concept" (like Thunderstrike 2), then hackers looking to make money can,
> too.
Those are all theoretical, found by "researchers" and usually
baselessly reported by anti-malware sellers, ignorant journalists, and
anti-Apple nutters. They aren't actually in the wild. Despite the
claims of these fools, there has never been a true piece of malware
discovered on any Mac.
> Again, I agree, at the moment, that you're far less likely to get
> malware on a Mac than a Windows machine.
"Less likely" to the extent of it being basically nil chance. You've
got a greater chance of winning the national lottery every week of your
life.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298968 is a reply to message #298792] |
Wed, 26 August 2015 14:36 |
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Originally posted by: Ryan P.
On 8/25/2015 4:43 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <mri6tc$jro$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/24/2015 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>> In article <mrf6c0$ik$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers
>>
>> {snip}
>>
>>>> I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
>>>
>>> It's not just Amigas. My PowerMac is nearing 20 years old and is still
>>> in daily use as my only computer - it's outlasted two CRT displays, a
>>> scanner, and a few mice, but the computer itself (other than the floppy
>>> disk drive) and the original hard drive (since added to with an
>>> additional larger drive) are still working perfectly well. :-)
>>
>> Yeah, my A2000 still runs along happily after 20 years. Parts are
>> being made to be more and more disposable every year.
>>
>> Of course, its not just computers. My first washer and dryer lasted
>> 20 years, and the fancy new ones my wife wanted to replace them lasted
>> only 5 years.
>
> Part of that is the overloading of features. It's a clothes dryer, does
> it really need 150 different settings and 30 different controls?? Our
> 30+ year old dryer has ONE dial that can be turned in two directions
> (one for lightweight clothes and one for heavier clothes) to set the
> preferred time ... that's it! There's no "automatic weight sensing",
> not separate settings for if the clothes are green, purple, or orange,
> etc.
>
Yeah, my 25 year old dryer (I was "allowed" to keep the old one) is
only slightly more advanced than that... It has "auto dry." Of course,
that feature hasn't worked for a couple years now, but because its
mechanical and not computer-controlled, the rest of the dryer keeps on
running.
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #298990 is a reply to message #298968] |
Wed, 26 August 2015 18:12 |
Your Name
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Registered: September 2013
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In article <mrl0t3$7n8$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 8/25/2015 4:43 PM, Your Name wrote:
>> In article <mri6tc$jro$1@dont-email.me>, Ryan P. <ryannewguy@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/24/2015 4:17 PM, Your Name wrote:
>>>> In article <mrf6c0$ik$1@dont-email.me>, Bobbie Sellers
>>>
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>> > I wonder how they built in that quality of durabilty?
>>>>
>>>> It's not just Amigas. My PowerMac is nearing 20 years old and is still
>>>> in daily use as my only computer - it's outlasted two CRT displays, a
>>>> scanner, and a few mice, but the computer itself (other than the floppy
>>>> disk drive) and the original hard drive (since added to with an
>>>> additional larger drive) are still working perfectly well. :-)
>>>
>>> Yeah, my A2000 still runs along happily after 20 years. Parts are
>>> being made to be more and more disposable every year.
>>>
>>> Of course, its not just computers. My first washer and dryer lasted
>>> 20 years, and the fancy new ones my wife wanted to replace them lasted
>>> only 5 years.
>>
>> Part of that is the overloading of features. It's a clothes dryer, does
>> it really need 150 different settings and 30 different controls?? Our
>> 30+ year old dryer has ONE dial that can be turned in two directions
>> (one for lightweight clothes and one for heavier clothes) to set the
>> preferred time ... that's it! There's no "automatic weight sensing",
>> not separate settings for if the clothes are green, purple, or orange,
>> etc.
>
> Yeah, my 25 year old dryer (I was "allowed" to keep the old one) is
> only slightly more advanced than that... It has "auto dry." Of course,
> that feature hasn't worked for a couple years now, but because its
> mechanical and not computer-controlled, the rest of the dryer keeps on
> running.
Yep, sticking a computer in *everything* is rather silly. Mind you
adding the internet to *everything* is even more ridiculously silly.
:-\
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| Re: Your Ultimate Amiga [message #302491 is a reply to message #298240] |
Tue, 13 October 2015 05:05 |
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Originally posted by: Neo Fortune
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 9:38:26 AM UTC+1, Neo Fortune wrote:
> How would you design a new revolutionary Amiga Computer?
>
> I love my Sony VAIO laptop, but would love to purchase a state of the art Amiga :-)
>
> I can't stand Apple Macs, they always feels over-engineered, and three times more expensive than a PC...
The computer would guard itself from any cyber attack by monitoring incursions, blocking access
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